Mitt Romney: It’s time for real change, America

posted at 4:01 pm on October 26, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

I hardly even know what to add to this. In a well-framed, critical yet optimistic, to the point, and refreshingly presidential speech in Iowa on Friday afternoon, Mitt Romney simply and clearly laid out his economic vision for his presidency. He touched on all the major domestic spheres of our economy and our society — our budget, education, energy, health care, regulations, you name it — without shying away or making excuses. It was a remarkable difference from the petty tone and shrinking subject matter we’ve heard from President Obama of late, and as Romney points out, the president so often likes to blame his predecessor for the problems he “inherited” — but Obama also “inherited” the greatest, most productive country on the planet, and just look at what he’s done with it.

If there was any newly receptive post-debate audience paying attention, he definitely struck just the right tone on this one. Listen and weep, Team Obama (full prepared remarks below):

Thank you all.  It’s great to be back in Iowa. And don’t think that this is the last time you are going to see Paul Ryan and me, because you Iowans may well be the ones who decide what kind of America we will have, what kind of life our families will have.

The choice you make this November will shape great things, historic things, and those things will determine the most intimate and important aspects of every American life and every American family. This is an election about America, and it is an election about the American family.

All elections matter. This one matters a great deal. Over the years of our nation’s history, choices our fellow citizens have made have changed the country’s course–they were turning points of defining consequence.

We are at a turning point today. Our national debt and liabilities threaten to crush our future, our economy struggles under the weight of government and fails to create essential growth and employment.

At the same time, emerging powers seek to shape the world in their image–China with its model of authoritarianism and, in a very different way, Jihadists with Sharia, repression, and terror for the world.

This is an election of consequence.  Our campaign is about big things, because we happen to believe that America faces big challenges.  We recognize this is a year with a big choice, and the American people want to see big changes.  And together we can bring real change to this country.

Four years ago, candidate Obama spoke to the scale of the times. Today, he shrinks from it, trying instead to distract our attention from the biggest issues to the smallest–from characters on Sesame Street and silly word games to misdirected personal attacks he knows are false.

The President’s campaign falls far short of the magnitude of the times. And the presidency of the last four years has fallen far short of the promises of his last campaign. Four years ago, America voted for a post-partisan president, but they have seen the most political of presidents, and a Washington in gridlock because of it.

President Obama promised to bring us together, but at every turn, he has sought to divide and demonize. He promised to cut the deficit in half, but he doubled it. And his budget?  It failed to win a single vote, Republican or Democrat, in either the House or the Senate. He said he would reform Medicare and Social Security and save them from pending insolvency, but he shrunk from proposing any solution at all.

And then, where are the jobs?  Where are the 9 million more jobs that President Obama promised his stimulus would have created by now?  They are in China, Mexico, and Canada and in countries that have made themselves more attractive for entrepreneurs and business and investment, even as President Obama’s policies have made it less attractive for them here.

And so today, his campaign tries to deflect and detract, to minimize the failures, and to make this election about small shiny objects.

But this election matters more than that. It matters to your family.

It matters to the senior who needs to get an appointment with a medical specialist but is told by one receptionist after another that the doctor isn’t taking any new Medicare patients, because Medicare has been slashed to pay for Obamacare.

It matters to the man from Waukesha, Wisconsin I spoke with several days ago.  In what were supposed to be his best work years, he used to have a job at $25 an hour with benefits and now has one at $8 an hour, without benefits.

It matters to the college student, graduating this spring, with 10 to 20 thousand dollars in student debt, who now learns that she also will be paying for 50 thousand dollars in government debt, a burden that will put the American Dream beyond her reach.

It matters for the child in a failing school, unable to go to the school of his parent’s choosing, because the teacher’s union that funds the President’s campaign opposes school choice.

The President’s campaign has a slogan: it is “forward.” But to the 23 million Americans struggling to find a good job, these last four years feel a lot more like “backward.” We cannot afford four more years like the last four years.

This election is about big things–like the education of our children, the value of our homes, the take home pay from our jobs, the price of the gasoline we buy, and the choices we have in our healthcare. It is also about the big things that determine these things–like the growth of the economy, the strength of our military, our dependence on foreign oil, and America’s leadership in the world.

President Obama frequently reminds us that he inherited a troubled economy. But a troubled economy is not all that President Obama inherited. He inherited the greatest nation in the history of the earth. He inherited the most productive and innovative nation in history. He inherited the largest economy in the world. And he inherited a people who have always risen to the occasion, regardless of the challenges they faced, so long as we have been led by men and women who have brought us together, called on our patriotism, and guided the nation with vision and conviction.

Despite all that he inherited, President Obama did not repair our economy, he did not save Medicare and Social Security, he did not tame the spending and borrowing, he did not reach across the aisle to bring us together. Nor did he stand up to China’s trade practices, or deliver on his promise to re-make our relations with the Muslim world, where anti-American extremism is on the rise.

What he inherited wasn’t the only problem; what he did with what he inherited made the problem worse.

In just four short years, he borrowed nearly $6 trillion, adding almost as much debt held by the public as all prior American presidents in history.

He forced through Obamacare, frightening small business from hiring new employees and adding thousands of dollars to every family’s healthcare bill.

He launched an onslaught of new regulations, often to the delight of the biggest banks and corporations, but to the detriment of the small, growing businesses that create two-thirds of our jobs.

New business starts are at a 30-year low because entrepreneurs and investors are sitting on the sidelines, weary from the President’s staggering new regulations and proposed massive tax increases.

Many families can’t get mortgages and many entrepreneurs can’t get loans because of Dodd-Frank regulations that make it harder for banks to lend.

The president invested taxpayer money–your money–in green companies, now failed, that met his fancy, and sometimes were owned by his largest campaign contributors. He spent billions of taxpayer dollars on investments like Solyndra, Tesla, Fisker, and Ener1, which only added to our mounting federal debt.

Energy prices are up in part because energy production on federal lands is down.  He rejected the Keystone Pipeline from Canada, and cut in half drilling permits and leases, even as gasoline prices soared to new highs.

No, the problem with the Obama economy is not what he inherited; it is with the misguided policies that slowed the recovery, and caused millions of Americans to endure lengthy unemployment and poverty. That is why 15 million more of our fellow citizens are on food stamps than when President Obama was sworn into office. That is why 3 million more women are now living in poverty. That is why nearly 1 in 6 Americans today is poor.  That is why the economy is stagnant.

Today, we received the latest round of discouraging economic news:  Last quarter, our economy grew at just 2%.  After the stimulus was passed, the White House promised the economy would now be growing at 4.3%, over twice as fast.  Slow economic growth means slow job growth and declining take home pay. This is what four years of President Obama’s policies have produced. Americans are ready for change–for growth, for jobs, for more take home pay.

We have had four presidential and vice-presidential debates. And there is nothing in what the President proposed or defended that has any prospect of meeting the challenges of the times. Raising taxes will not grow jobs or ignite the economy–in fact, his tax plan has been calculated to destroy 700,000 jobs. A new stimulus, three years after the recession officially ended, may spare government, but it will not stimulate the private sector any better than did the stimulus of four years ago. And cutting one trillion dollars from the military will kill jobs and devastate our national defense.

This is not the time to double down on the trickle-down government policies that have failed us; it is time for new bold changes that measure up to the moment, that can bring America’s families the certainty that the future will be better than the past.

If Paul Ryan and I are elected as your president and vice president, we will endeavor with all our hearts and energy to restore America. Instead of more spending, more borrowing from China and higher taxes from Washington, we’ll renew our faith in the power of free people pursuing their dreams.  We’ll start with our plan for a stronger middle class, which has five elements:

One, we will act to put America on track to a balanced budget by eliminating unnecessary programs, by sending programs back to states where they can be managed with less abuse and less cost, and by shrinking the bureaucracy of Washington.

Two, we’ll produce more of the energy we need to heat our homes, fill our cars, and make our economy grow.  We will stop the Obama war on coal, the disdain for oil, and the effort to crimp natural gas by federal regulation of the very technology that produces it. We will support nuclear and renewables, but phase out subsidies once an industry is on its feet. And rather than investing in new electric auto and solar companies, we will invest in energy science and research to make discoveries that can actually change our energy world. And by 2020, we will achieve North American energy independence.

Three, we will make trade work for America.  We’ll open more markets to American agriculture, products, and services. And we will finally hold accountable any nation that doesn’t play by the rules.  I will stand up for the rights and interests of American workers and employers.

Four, we will grow jobs by making America the best possible place for job creators, for entrepreneurs, for small business, for innovators, for manufacturers. This we will do by updating and reshaping regulations to encourage growth, by lowering tax rates while lowering deductions and closing loopholes, and by making it clear from day one that unlike the current administration, we actually like business and the jobs business creates.

Finally, as we create more opportunity, we also will make sure that our citizens have the skills to succeed. Training programs will be shaped by the states where people live, and schools will put the interests of our kids, their parents, and their teachers above the interests of the teachers’ unions.

If we do those five things, our economy will come roaring back. We will create 12 million new jobs in just four years, raise take-home pay, and get the American economy growing at four percent a year—more than double this year’s rate. After all the false promises of recovery and all the waiting, we will finally see help for America’s middle class.

Paul and I won’t stop there. When we take office, we will take responsibility to solve the big problems that everyone agrees can’t wait any longer.

We will save and secure Medicare and Social Security, both for current and near retirees, and for the generation to come. We will restore the $716 billion President Obama has taken from Medicare to pay for his vaunted Obamacare.

We will reform healthcare to tame the growth in its cost, to provide for those with pre-existing conditions, and to assure that every American has access to healthcare. We will replace government choice with consumer choice, bringing the dynamics of the marketplace to a sector of our lives that has long been dominated by government.

These things among others we can only do if we work tirelessly to bridge the divide between the political parties. We will meet with Democrat and Republican leadership regularly, we will look for common ground and shared principles, and we will put the interests of the American people above the interests of the politicians.

I know something about leading because I’ve led before.  In business, at the Olympics, and in Massachusetts, I’ve brought people together to achieve real change.

I was elected as a Republican governor in a state with a legislature that was 85% Democrat. We were looking at a multi-billion dollar budget gap. But instead of fighting with one another, we came together to solve our problems. We actually cut spending–reduced it. We lowered taxes 19 times. We defended school choice. And we worked to make our state business friendly.

Our state moved up 20 places in job growth. Our schools were ranked number one in the nation.  And we turned a $3 billion budget deficit into a $2 billion rainy day fund.

I know it because I have seen it: Good Democrats can come together with good Republicans to solve big problems. What we need is leadership.

America is ready for that kind of leadership. Paul Ryan and I will provide it. Our plan for a stronger middle class will create jobs, stop the decline in take home pay, and put America back on the path of prosperity and opportunity. And this will enable us to fulfill our responsibility as the leader of the free world, to promote the principles of peace. We will help the Muslim world combat the spread of extremism; we will dissuade Iran from building a nuclear bomb; we will build enduring relationships throughout Latin America; and we will partner with China and other great nations to build a more stable and peaceful world.

We face big challenges. But we also have big opportunities. New doors are open for us to sell our ideas and our products to the entire world. New technologies offer the promise of unbounded information and limitless innovation. New ideas are changing lives and hearts in diverse nations and among diverse peoples. If we seize the moment and rise to the occasion, the century ahead will be an American Century.

Our children will graduate into jobs that are waiting for them. Our seniors will be confident that their retirement is secure. Our men and women will have good jobs and good pay and good benefits. And we will have every confidence that our lives are safe, and that our livelihoods are secure.

What this requires is change, change from the course of the last four years. It requires that we put aside the small and the petty, and demand the scale of change we deserve: we need real change, big change.

Our campaign is about that kind of change–confronting the problems that politicians have avoided for over a decade, revitalizing our competitive economy, modernizing our education, restoring our founding principles.

This is the kind of change that promises a better future, one shaped by men and women pursuing their dreams in their own unique ways.

This election is a choice between the status quo — going forward with the same policies of the last four years — or instead, choosing real change, change that offers promise, promise that the future will be better than the past.

If you are ready for that kind of change, if you want this to be a turning point in America’s course, join Paul Ryan and me, get your family and friends to join us, and vote now for the kind of leadership that these times demand.

God bless you. And God bless America.


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The foxes are guarding the fox house. I don’t think there are any hens left.

The Rogue Tomato on May 17, 2013 at 12:38 PM

shawked

phatfawzi on May 17, 2013 at 12:38 PM

It explains why the new acting commissioner was coincidentally promoted a few days before: he was their fall guy.

blammm on May 17, 2013 at 12:40 PM

This is NOT a good or decent person.

Jabberwock on May 17, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Is Miller a tax cheat also?

docflash on May 17, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Wait… If they staged it they knew the internal report and decided to damage control it…

That had to come from above and the one person who had the lost at stake said he didn’t know about it because the report wasn’t released yet…

Skywise on May 17, 2013 at 12:43 PM

so if i get this right? the department that makes sure were all honest LIED? OK i get it. Just wanted to make sure.

phatfawzi on May 17, 2013 at 12:43 PM

In an exchange with Republican representative Kevin Brady, Miller said, “I’m going to take exception to the concept of targeting, because it’s a loaded term,” and one that “describes something that didn’t exist here.”

“Targeting, Congressman Brady, is what right wing whackos like Sarah Palin does, with pictures of targets and all, and we didn’t use any pictures.”

TXUS on May 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Terp Mole on May 17, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Great reference. I’ll take it farther: Government has arranged to kidnap its own “wife”- and taxpayers are father-in-law Wade, who’s expected to come up with the ransom money.

Bat Chain Puller on May 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Horrible Customer Service

Bwahahahahahahaha

TAKE’n from a man’s labor … no different from slavery..

tooo bad them slave owners n da south didn’t practice “good customer service”

roflmmfao

donabernathy on May 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM

These people (liberals in charge) have no conscience. They believe government is the answer, and therefore only have to answer to themselves. It’s all a big party, complete with hats and hooters.

kirkill on May 17, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Man it is hard to not go on a profanity laced rant in these comments.

CycloneCDB on May 17, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Every American citizen should watch this hearing to see who will be in charge of their most personal medical information…!!!!!!!!!!!!

d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 12:47 PM

It’s a pipe dream, but Congress should reciprocate the contempt the IRS commissioner showed Congress today and completely defund the entire IRS organization! That would hopefully get their attention…

geojed on May 17, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Is the government throttling our comments here at HA…? Slow down…!

d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Taxpayers aren’t the ‘customers’ of the IRS. They are the EMPLOYERS of the IRS.

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:48 PM

This guy is really restoring my faith in big government!

/sarc

I can’t wait to find out what “bad customer service” looks like under ObamaCare.

gwelf on May 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM

So your faking this from top to bottom, and we’re supposed to trust you to be completely honest and forthright from now on?

On a sidenote, except for a few brief appearances by libfree to yap about a black church being burned down in 1802, this week has been low-troll. Curious.

Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM

On a sidenote, except for a few brief appearances by libfree to yap about a black church being burned down in 1802, this week has been low-troll. Curious.

Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Can’t wait.

Who’s The Racist? The Most Racist Countries In The World And The Answers Will Surprise Only The Race-Mongers

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Is everyone testifying about the IRS being put under oath?

slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM

What does that say about IRS leadership’s honesty and credibility?

WHAT ‘HONESTY’ AND ‘CREDIBILITY’?

GarandFan on May 17, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Rep Mike Kelly just finished up…..the gallery erupted in applause.

CoffeeLover on May 17, 2013 at 12:50 PM

No retirement – jail. No pension, no healthcare plan, just fines and imprisonment. For a *shitload* of IRS people, damnit.

Midas on May 17, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Miller’s big concern? Customer service.

Democrats’ solution: We should outsource this to phone operators in Mexico. And any phone operator and every remote family member can have U.S. citizenship.

BuckeyeSam on May 17, 2013 at 12:53 PM

In a just world this guy would be led from the hearing in handcuffs…

d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 12:53 PM

The House GOP, if they had any balls at all (yeah, I know) need to do a few things immediately.

Voting to repeal ObamaCare is fun and all, but we know it goes nowhere in the Senate (at least for now).

DEFUND it. Starve the beast.

And we’d better start having some serious discussions about a total revamping of the tax code- eliminate the income tax, and start de-funding the IRS while you’re at it.

Enough already.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on May 17, 2013 at 12:55 PM

No retirement – jail. No pension, no healthcare plan, just fines and imprisonment. For a *shitload* of IRS people, damnit.

Midas on May 17, 2013 at 12:53 PM

This.

Let’s see how many of them howl and scream their way to the top of the problem when faced with real punishment.

VibrioCocci on May 17, 2013 at 12:56 PM

The Conservative customer is always WRONG …

- IRS motto

ShainS on May 17, 2013 at 12:56 PM

The Tea Party weren’t “Targeted”.

They were just zeroed in on for IRS harassment.

portlandon on May 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM

I don’t know if it’s the fact that I grew up hearing stories from my grandparents about the communist Russia that they escaped as German Russians, but today’s hearings brought tears to my eyes. I can’t believe this is my country and the country my grandparents were so proud to become citizens of and my father fought for in WWII. Please, someone tell me we can be saved.

lea on May 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Even though it’s risible in the context, I’d give the IRS Commish a break on “horrible customer service.” Given the nature of all large organizations — with their mission statements and accompanying objectives to service “customers” and other stakeholders — that’s much how IRS leadership undoubtedly sees it.

But sadly, it just shows how out of touch managers in large organizations can be.

bobs1196 on May 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM

On a sidenote, except for a few brief appearances by libfree to yap about a black church being burned down in 1802, this week has been low-troll. Curious.

Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM

yeah, but what a fire it was!

I think sesquapredictable mentioned something about being out of pickled baby’s feet.

kirkill on May 17, 2013 at 1:00 PM

These poor IRS people are just doing the jobs that “normal” Americans won’t do.

kirkill on May 17, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Not mentioned here is this is the fellow Hillary brought in to arrange for the IRS audits of the Clinton women and enemies. Remember? And here he was, back at the IRS and that did not raise suspicion?

pat on May 17, 2013 at 1:05 PM

This charlatan was promised his great pension, and all the bennies, in exchange for all the lies.

How does any sane person believe a single word from these thugs?

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 1:06 PM

On a sidenote, except for a few brief appearances by libfree to yap about a black church being burned down in 1802, this week has been low-troll. Curious.
 
Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM

 
I missed that one. I remember something about shrubbery and reading up on Korean pickled cabbages, though.

rogerb on May 17, 2013 at 1:07 PM

>>Customer service

Please don’t taze audit me bro

bbordwell on May 17, 2013 at 1:07 PM

“I want to give unelected bureaucrats like Steve Miller more power and more authority over my life, and especially my children’s lives! Big Government FTW!” -Average Dem voter

visions on May 17, 2013 at 1:07 PM

I’d have to check my notes – Miller

You have notes on that?

Ummm…No – Miller

You just said you have notes on that meeting…Now you’re saying you don’t have notes?

workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 1:08 PM

On a sidenote, except for a few brief appearances by libfree to yap about a black church being burned down in 1802, this week has been low-troll. Curious.

Bishop on May 17, 2013 at 12:49 PM

1. In re-ed

2. Intoxicated from all the crap

3. Working harder…’cause sugah daddy’s in trouble

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Please detail the contents of your prayers – IRS

workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Carnac the magnificent holds the envelope to his head.

“How did the man working on his rain gutter fall down?”

Could be the latter…

selderane on May 17, 2013 at 1:15 PM

The Rogue Tomato on May 17, 2013 at 1:11 PM

The Conservative customer is always WRONG …

- IRS motto

ShainS on May 17, 2013 at 12:56 PM

It’s Rush Limbaugh’s Fault

Democratic Caucus & Il Duce’s motto

workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 1:12 PM

It’s mealy-mouthed bureaucrats like this that make me wish I was serving on this committee. It would give me perverse pleasure to reduce this guy to tears with the worst dressing-down he’s ever gotten.

CurtZHP on May 17, 2013 at 1:12 PM

IRS…Your Shadow Government at Work

workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Carnac the Magnificent holds the envelope to his head.

“When should Obama resign?”

NOW.

Chris of Rights on May 17, 2013 at 1:17 PM

The Rogue Tomato on May 17, 2013 at 1:14 PM

PLEASE make Kelly’s statements and applause available, HA !
Didn’t record it, and hubby needs to see/hear it !!!

pambi on May 17, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Having dealt with the IRS about back taxes, I can affirm that it does indeed have horrible customer services. You will never get the same answer from different phone reps about the same question. You often get contradictory answers, in fact. But each time they’ll insist the current answer is Gospel truth.

I remember I had a payment agreement setup that I was running late on. “Submit payment by X date or the agreement will be canceled,” they said. Now, it costs over $100 to set one of those things up (don’t ask me why) so I really didn’t want to have to do it again. So I went online and submitted my payment before X date. However, it didn’t post to their system until after X date. They said the agreement was canceled.

“No,” I said, “As you can see I submitted the payment on time. There shouldn’t be a new agreement.”

“The system canceled your agreement, so you need a new one,” they replied.

“But I paid on time. I paid before the deadline. I shouldn’t have to do this.”

And on and on it went for weeks. Finally, they re-instituted the original agreement. But, my God… I almost feel bad for the people working there. It’s like critical thought has been beaten out of them. That or the IRS simply hires people who don’t think.

Could be the latter…

selderane on May 17, 2013 at 1:15 PM

This is much worse than Watergate as potentially millions of voters were denied by the IRS the truth about this administration.

bucknut on May 17, 2013 at 1:16 PM

pat

at 1:05

Do you have where you got the info that Miller did a audits of Clinton women for Hillbeast.

If so there is a possible this is the Clintons depth charge they let go on Obama, after they figured Obama was going to blame her for Benzazie…..

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 17, 2013 at 1:17 PM

So…ummm…

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/report-irs-deliberately-chose-not-fess-scandal-election_724711.html

I’m going to say it again. Shut. It. Down.

NOW.

Chris of Rights on May 17, 2013 at 1:17 PM

The concept that citizens are the “customers” of the IRS is strange. The IRS is not a business with customers.

Is there any business in the private sector that could jail you and seize your private property for not using their services and giving them money?

visions on May 17, 2013 at 1:19 PM

When Obama prances around the country shouting to businesses…You didn’t build that…

It’s not so strange.

Miller and likely most of the IRS crew are leftists.

The Dept. of Treasury has their own Union…and they contribute mostly to the DNC and democrats…

In 2012 Union membership gave $1,000 to republicans and over $100,000 to democrats.

workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 1:18 PM

“Fundamentally change America”…we’re going to have to take apart this government one Fascist/Socialist/Commie at at time.
It will take years to overcome the effect Dear Leader has had on our country and its media.

d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Please, someone tell me we can be saved.

lea on May 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Yes, but it requires speaking out when you least want to and be willing to endure the consequences of speaking out.

darwin on May 17, 2013 at 1:18 PM

I sense Jarrett’s fingerprints in this mess. Lerner has to go, and Sarch Hall Ingram needs to be re-assigned or fired. Will not stand letting her oversee the Obamacare agenda. Cannot be trusted.

Amazingoly on May 17, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Well the IRS just ought to update their phone system to do the following:

If you are a member of a conservative group, Press 1.

If you are a associated with a Jewish group, Press 2.

If you plan to protest Planned Parenthood, Press 3.

If you plan to oppose Green Energy, Press 4.

If you plan to protest Obamacare, Press 5.

And the recording upon pressing those options simply ought to state, you are now being transferred to Homeland Security. I mean the IRS leaders talk about poor customer service and the reason they targeted conservative groups was to be more efficient. I mean, lets provide some solutions here and cut out the middle man. /

rsherwd65 on May 17, 2013 at 1:19 PM

The concept that citizens are the “customers” of the IRS is strange. The IRS is not a business with customers.

Is there any business in the private sector that could jail you and seize your private property for not using their services and giving them money?

visions on May 17, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Is Congress permitted to Waterboard witnesses to get a truthful answer to the question asked?

meci on May 17, 2013 at 1:20 PM

A customer is someone who voluntarily comes to you for a mutual exchange of good or valuable consideration. The IRS seizes property at the point of a gun. I’m not your damn customer, pal, and I want you to be a federal prisoner.

RadClown on May 17, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Really, the “customer service” term says all you need to know.

We really and truly have lost the concept of government of and by the people. I totally agree with shutting it down. This is insane.

ORconservative on May 17, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Time for decimination of the IRS (yes, in the military sense)

One out of ten employees from the division are fired at random. Only those that come clean will be spared.

blammm on May 17, 2013 at 1:28 PM

You want to know how deeply the IRS lies? They send people to prison who figure out that filing tax returns are completely voluntary according to Treasury Department regulations and the IRS Manual. In fact, the IRS does more than lie. They ruin honest peoples’ lives. THAT’s what they do. The good news: if you know how to fight ‘em, they back off. Trust me.

HiJack on May 17, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Acting IRS commissioner Steven Miller took issue with the use of the word “targeting” as it relates to the IRS’s singling out of Tea Party and other conservative groups, calling it a “loaded term.”

Like when Sarah Palin talked about some House Democrats “targeted” for defeat.

But unlike Sarah Palin, whose political opinions are well-known, the IRS is supposed to be a politically neutral agency which collects taxes according to the laws voted by Congress.

Since the Tea Party, Patriot, and other conservative groups supported Republicans over Democrats, weren’t they “targeted” in the Sarah Palin sense?

IRS Commissioner at hearing: “We provided horrible customer service here. I will admit that. Horrible customer service.”

Customer service? A customer is a person who buys something of value from a seller. What has the IRS ever sold to us for our taxes? If the IRS wasn’t a government agency with the power to collect taxes, no one would buy anything from the IRS!!!

This is not “horrible customer service”. This is coercive use of government power for political purposes.

Exit question for Steven Miller: Who told you and the IRS to do this?

Steve Z on May 17, 2013 at 1:32 PM

OK,

So, this Miller was the goong the Clintons sent to audit Judical Watch back in the 1980′s.

So, I smell revenge on Obama on this by the Clintons.

If true, this would be huge imnsho.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 17, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Gotta wonder: was Jim Crow just a matter of horrible customer service?

matt curtis on May 17, 2013 at 1:33 PM

dictatorship
secret police
state controlled media
and more

who the hell will stand up for The United States?

losarkos on May 17, 2013 at 1:34 PM

What a day for HA to be broken…

d1carter on May 17, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Is it still America?

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Washington Examiner May 14, 2013 by Paul Bedard

Deja vu: IRS boss of Tea Party probes targeted anti-Clinton groups in 1990′s..

connections

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 17, 2013 at 1:38 PM

The concept that citizens are the “customers” of the IRS is strange. The IRS is not a business with customers.

Is there any business in the private sector that could jail you and seize your private property for not using their services and giving them money?

visions on May 17, 2013 at 1:19 PM

This is the Orwellian Newspeak of the Obama Administration. Like taxpayer subsidies to the Solyndras and Fisker Karmas of the world are “investments” in clean, green energy. With a rate of return of negative 100%.

If we the “customers” of the IRS are the coerced “investors” in Solyndra et al. and Obama’s wonderful windmills and choo-choo trains, WE DEMAND OUR DIVIDENDS!!! NOW!!!

Steve Z on May 17, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Is it still America?

Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 1:36 PM

I guess it depends on our definition of “America”, but as far as I’m concerned it hasn’t been America for a long…long…time.

HiJack on May 17, 2013 at 1:43 PM

So who was the plant at the ABA conference, that asked Lerner about targeting certain groups?

Was this a member of the media – willing to play along? Or some political hack, that just slipped in to ask the question?

Hill60 on May 17, 2013 at 1:50 PM

I don’t know if it’s the fact that I grew up hearing stories from my grandparents about the communist Russia that they escaped as German Russians, but today’s hearings brought tears to my eyes. I can’t believe this is my country and the country my grandparents were so proud to become citizens of and my father fought for in WWII. Please, someone tell me we can be saved.

lea on May 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM

This might sound familiar to you: Back in the USSR

What we have now discovered about Barack Obama and Eric Holder’s America, if we didn’t already know it, is that any belief in a benign and decent government in this country is absolute horseshit. Liberalism has been revealed as a fascist joke.

slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 2:19 PM

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 17, 2013 at 1:17 PM

http://washingtonexaminer.com/irs-boss-of-tea-party-probes-targeted-anti-clinton-group-in-1990s/article/2529533

I asked FNC to check it out since the hearning didn’t address it.

amr on May 17, 2013 at 2:24 PM

Lighter moment???!!! Yous gotta be kidding me. False analogy.

CUSTOMERS, in this case, do not have a choice of not patronizing their provided service.

Sir Napsalot on May 17, 2013 at 2:25 PM

I’ve been a government employee before. This is a failure of management. Rank-and-file IRS agents know exactly what they’re supposed to do and not supposed to do. They would not have done this without directives, I don’t care what the numbers say about party affiliation. This rot goes deep.

alwaysfiredup on May 17, 2013 at 2:51 PM

NYT: Official Says Treasury Dept. Knew of I.R.S. Inquiry in 2012

The Treasury Department’s inspector general told senior Treasury officials in June 2012 he was investigating allegations that the Internal Revenue Service had targeted conservative groups, disclosing for the first time on Friday that Obama administration officials were aware of the matter during the presidential campaign year.

Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 3:19 PM

Every time I see a photo of Steve Miller I always think about this episode form the Three Stooges (hint: tarantula)

OxyCon on May 17, 2013 at 3:39 PM

You know who else had bad customer service?

Kermit Gosnell.

myiq2xu on May 17, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Tea Party

Just thought I would use fowl words on the internet….

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 17, 2013 at 5:26 PM

More “horrible customer service” from Democrats.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on May 18, 2013 at 1:10 AM