Quotes of the day

posted at 10:56 pm on October 24, 2012 by Allahpundit

KATTY KAY, BBC: It’s so far from what it was in 2008, right? When he was talking — in this stage in the campaign two weeks before the election and he had all that momentum and he was talking about all the things that he was going to do in the country. And that was an agenda campaign. I mean, he was promising to change the way Washington works, to change the way politics works here.

And now, I guess Chicago has said, ‘Hey, we think this Romnesia idea is your ticket to reelection, Mr. President, in the last two weeks.’ I think you’re right — it’s sort of depressing, if that’s what it comes down to.

Maybe it’s just that it’s gone on too long. Maybe we just got to the stage where there’s nothing left of importance to say.

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His ground game is at near parity in early voting with the GOP, the GOP is more energized, and he is going to lose both [North Carolina and Florida].

But he will not stop spending money in those two states and redirect the resources to Ohio, which is now a must win state for him. He will not do it because he does not want news stories to come out in the last two weeks of the campaign that he’s closing up show in two battleground states.

That would convey weakness and demoralize the base.

But they are losing.

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The campaign Obama is waging today could be trumpeting the products of a successful pivot back to pro-business tax cutting competence, reclaiming the national agenda following the rise of the tea party movement. But he never did, and even today, the second term agenda he’s laid out seems more like a repeated insistence that his original course was the right one, consarnit.

Gone are the days of hope and change – now it’s just one long bout of concern trolling. It’s as if the bitterness of the 2010 rebuff has stayed with Obama ever since, gnawing at him, preventing any reflection on his choices. Maybe it’s because it’s the first time anyone’s told him “No.”

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You may recall that last spring, just after Mr. Romney locked up the Republican nomination, Mr. Obama’s team abruptly switched its strategy for how to define him. Up to then, the White House had been portraying Mr. Romney much as George W. Bush had gone after John Kerry in 2004 – as inauthentic and inconstant, a soulless climber who would say anything to get the job.

But it was Mr. Clinton who forcefully argued to Mr. Obama’s aides that the campaign had it wrong. The best way to go after Mr. Romney, the former president said, was to publicly grant that he was the “severe conservative” he claimed to be, and then hang that unpopular ideology around his neck…

The bottom line here is that one can over-think this whole notion of framing your opponent. Ninety-nine times out of 100, the line of attack that works best is the one that really rings true. In the case of Mr. Romney, whatever his stated positions may be, the idea that he’s a far-right ideologue, a kind of Rush Limbaugh with better suits and frosty hair, just doesn’t feel especially persuasive.

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But the idea that it was only Clinton that advocated this strategy or that without his influence the geniuses running the Obama campaign would not have made this mistake is so patently self-serving on the part of his sources that it’s a wonder that a generally savvy observer like Bai doesn’t point this out.

If anything this omission, like the general thrust of his piece, points to an effort by Obama’s chief strategists to get out in front of the story of who led the president to defeat. Moreover, it is hard not to avoid the suspicion that pointing the finger at Clinton is a way of reminding him that if he thinks Obama loyalists owe him for his herculean efforts on behalf of the president he’s got another thing coming. Especially, that is, if he tries to call in IOUs from the Obama camp on behalf of another presidential run by Hillary Clinton in 2016.

But no matter where the Democratic fingers are pointing, the fact that they are already starting to blame each other for an Obama loss has to send chills down the spines of Democrats who are still operating under the assumption that Romney can’t win.

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[I]f you’re looking for a reason (besides, of course, the national polling showing an ever-so-slight Romney edge) why the media narrative has tilted toward the Republicans over the last week or so, I think the Romney campaign’s guarantee of victory has mattered much less than the Obama campaign’s recent aura of defeat.

Losing campaigns have a certain feel to them: They go negative hard, try out new messaging very late in the game, hype issues that only their core supporters are focused on, and try to turn non-gaffes and minor slip-ups by their opponents into massive, election-turning scandals. Think of John McCain’s desperate hope that elevating Joe the Plumber would change the shape of the 2008 race, and you have the template for how tin-eared and desperate a losing presidential campaign often sounds — and ever since the first debate cost Obama his air of inevitability, he and his surrogates have sounded more like McCain did with Joe the Plumber than like a typical incumbent president on his way to re-election. A winning presidential campaign would not normally be hyping non-issues like Big Bird and “binders full of women” in its quest for a closing argument, or rolling out a new spin on its second-term agenda with just two weeks left in the race, or pushing so many advertising chips into dishonest attacks on its rival’s position on abortion. A winning presidential campaign would typically be talking about the issues that voters cite as most important — jobs, the economy, the deficit — rather than trying to bring up Planned Parenthood and PBS at every opportunity. A winning presidential campaign would not typically have coined the term “Romnesia,” let alone worked it into their candidate’s speeches.

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Obama senses it, but can’t quite believe it. He seems confused by how easily Romney started punching over his weight class on October 3rd. He seems surprised that the last two debates didn’t drop Governor Romney’s numbers like a rock. He’s frustrated that Romney is a happy warrior now, and it shows. He’s visibly irritable because all the press hits and ads and field work…and so, so much money… haven’t reduced Mitt Romney to dust…

For months, according to Team Obama, there was no path for a Romney victory. The Blue Wall states were immutable, the swing states were susceptible to his women-and-seniors-and-immigrants-and-students mojo. Everything that worked in 2008 would work now. Everything in the hard-hitting Chicago political tool box would be deployed, and by the end Mitt Romney would want to be in the Witness Protection Program.

But now, as the President’s options have narrowed and as the weight of Obama’s failures from the economy to the Libya fiasco come crashing down on his campaign, I’m feeling increasingly optimistic that we’ve passed an inflection point in the campaign where Obama’s familiar tools can’t help him pull off a miracle.

Obama was the candidate of the inevitable, unbeatable wave, not of the grind-it-out, cut-and-thrust of a motivated, funded and determined GOP and conservative base. Unlike McCain, Mitt Romney’s team won’t get hit and stand there with their jaws hanging down at the ungentlemanly conduct of the other side.

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“You guys have some short memories. Folks in your business were writing me off a year ago, saying there was no way I would win.”

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Are beer nuts just hominy, but toasted and salted?

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Interesting question. I have never had a beer nut. Here folks like boiled peanuts. Very salty, great with beer!

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Yep. And get your paper towel from the ladies room.

SparkPlug on October 25, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Good, just like I usually do. Whew, thanks SparkPlug. ; )

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 12:55 AM

501, 502 SparkPlug?

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 12:55 AM

canopfor on October 25, 2012 at 12:47 AM

‘nite canopfor

jaime on October 25, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Anyone left?

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Video: Obama Has Signed 923 Executive Orders In 40 Months

canopfor on October 25, 2012 at 12:26 AM

I think this has been debunked.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/executiveorders.asp

Still, the overall point of him ruling by executive fiat and overriding congress is rightt – e.g., the Libya intervention, gutting welfare reform, and more generally, his entire “America can’t wait” initiative, which seems to be premised around the idea that the constitution requires congressional approval for all legislation, unless it’s super important.

RINO in Name Only on October 25, 2012 at 12:56 AM

jaime on October 25, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Good deal jaime, I was starting to think everyone had gone to bed.

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Polenta
Masa de maíz
Tortillas
Hominy
Cornmeal
Corn syrup
Cornstarch
Corn oil
Popcorn
Corn malt
Corn brooms
Corn silage
Corn gluten meal/best animal feed
Biodegradable corn products (Al Gore would love)

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Don’t forget Cheetos… another vital food group.

viking01 on October 25, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Me too! :)

kcd on October 25, 2012 at 12:57 AM

corn on the cob with a rib-eye

jrsrigmvr on October 25, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Indeed, or just by itself.

I love corn. The French consider it heresy as people food. They don’t know what theya re missing.

Tamales, mhhhh

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Don’t forget Cheetos… another vital food group.

viking01 on October 25, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Glad that you and jrsigmvr remembered more. Just add on.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2012 at 12:58 AM

Hello, Jaime! Where have you been? :)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Hi, Jackie. I’ve been busy today. I just got here a little while ago.

Romney’s theme song.

jaime on October 25, 2012 at 12:58 AM

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Oh, that’s right! I forgot about the boiled peanuts. I occasionally like beer nuts, although, I’m not much on drinking beer. No one ever told me I couldn’t enjoy a package of them though, without the beer!

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 12:59 AM

Are beer nuts just hominy, but toasted and salted?

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Interesting question. I have never had a beer nut. Here folks like boiled peanuts. Very salty, great with beer!

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Beer Nuts are sweetened and salted peanuts.

Corn Nuts are the whole corn snack.

viking01 on October 25, 2012 at 12:59 AM

jaime on October 25, 2012 at 12:58 AM

Very glad to see you! Nice tune, too!:)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 12:59 AM

Indeed, Bmore…or hominy chili

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2012 at 12:57 AM

If that is true about the French they are missing out. Nothing better then Fresh picked white corn on the grill or boiled. Picked and cooked same day. Sweet!

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:00 AM

I heard there was cheese… did you folks leave any for the rest of us?

ndalager on October 25, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Oh, that’s right! I forgot about the boiled peanuts.
thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 12:59 AM

Wonderful product of the South

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2012 at 1:01 AM

viking01 on October 25, 2012 at 12:59 AM

OH! There you go! I knew it had something to do with corn of some description! Thanks! :)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Are we talking about nuts instead of cheese now? lol

kcd on October 25, 2012 at 1:01 AM

kcd on October 25, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Those momentary lulls are frighting. Lol! ; )

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Good deal jaime, I was starting to think everyone had gone to bed.

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 12:56 AM

I’m in and out, just like a…

burger. Mostly out. I can’t stay long. I thought I’d just drop in and say hi.

jaime on October 25, 2012 at 1:01 AM

kcd on October 25, 2012 at 1:01 AM

I find that walnuts go very well with cheese.. and so do pecans. :)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Are we talking about nuts instead of cheese now? lol

kcd on October 25, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Nuts are important. Peanuts are not really nuts though.

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Anyway, back to cheese. Was just answering the corn-outside-of-ethanol…not meant to change the subject.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:01 AM

It’s your fault! I was trying to get that sticky pie and ice cream off of my keys! :)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Wonderful product of the South

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Im from the south:) Bama

kcd on October 25, 2012 at 1:03 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on October 25, 2012 at 12:39 AM

antidisestablishmentarianism

Solaratov on October 25, 2012 at 1:03 AM

Peanuts are still very important however.

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:03 AM

Polenta
Masa de maíz
Tortillas
Hominy
Cornmeal
Corn syrup
Cornstarch
Corn oil
Popcorn
Corn malt
Corn brooms
Corn silage
Corn gluten meal/best animal feed
Biodegradable corn products (Al Gore would love)

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Forrest, we mights jus’ be able to mix some o’ this with my shrimp recipes. Whatcha think, Forrest?

TXUS on October 25, 2012 at 1:03 AM

Are beer nuts just hominy, but toasted and salted?

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Corn nuts…

Gohawgs on October 25, 2012 at 1:04 AM

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:02 AM

That’s right… now that you mention it. I still like them, though, but I prefer them roasted and salted… or those little candy coated Boston peanuts! Oh, and I like Spanish peanuts in a coca-cola from time to time. :)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:04 AM

Nuts are important. Peanuts are not really nuts though.

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:02 AM

They are legumes.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Just wait until the oil from nuts is used for fuel. Then nuts will be very expensive. The same thing has happened with black oil sunflower seeds. They are very expensive now.

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Very glad to see you! Nice tune, too!:)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 12:59 AM

Good to see you, Jackie. Thanks.

I just have one more song tonight. I looked and looked for a version of this song that was better than the original and I couldn’t find one. Anyway, this will be what Romney’ll be saying on 11/7.

jaime on October 25, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Thanks for linking that, arnold.

jaime on October 25, 2012 at 12:52 AM

You are welcome. There is a good Spanish station that I listen to often. Very good music and I understand about 10%. Being in CA I probably should work harder and get it up to 80%.

arnold ziffel on October 25, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Gohawgs on October 25, 2012 at 1:04 AM

Yes… that was it. I guess I didn’t spend enough time in bars. lol!

I don’t know a beer nut from a corn nut! But I know I like the taste of a corn nut. :)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:06 AM

Oh, and I like Spanish peanuts in a coca-cola from time to time. :)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:04 AM

How fun! I had forgotten all about that! ; )

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:06 AM

jaime on October 25, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Absolutely! And nicely done, Jamie! :)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:07 AM

I wonder how that clay figurine has been getting along. Didn’t Flora shoot him in the nut the other evening?

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:06 AM

So you know that, too! Everyone always looks at me like I’m ‘nuts’! lol!

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Oh, and I like Spanish peanuts in a coca-cola from time to time. :)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:04 AM

I like salted peanuts in a coca-cola! Yummy!

kcd on October 25, 2012 at 1:07 AM

They are legumes.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2012 at 1:05 AM

What is your favorite? I will tell you mine, but you go first.

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 12:55 AM

You almost got me a half-Bishop.

SparkPlug on October 25, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Nut that is.

You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:09 AM

Peanuts are a major cause of calcium oxalate kidney stones.

Dont.eat.lotsa.peanuts.

rickyricardo on October 25, 2012 at 1:09 AM

http://youtu.be/6cbX4DUACYU

personally I like jd & coke. It does help me hang on!

jrsrigmvr on October 25, 2012 at 1:09 AM

You almost got me a half-Bishop.

SparkPlug on October 25, 2012 at 1:08 AM

50 more comments and I’ll have another chance. ; )

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:10 AM

kcd on October 25, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Yes! That’s why I use the little Spanish peanuts…they’re very salty!

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Beer Nuts are sweetened and salted peanuts.

Corn Nuts are the whole corn snack.

viking01 on October 25, 2012 at 12:59 AM

Yes indeed. I like em.

SparkPlug on October 25, 2012 at 1:10 AM

I like antiestablishmentarianism better.

annoyinglittletwerp on October 25, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Why we love you, or why we’re here. The establishmentarians are over at the Kos and Huffpo latrine.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2012 at 1:10 AM

rickyricardo on October 25, 2012 at 1:09 AM

Spoiler! lol What about peanut butter?

kcd on October 25, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Being in CA I probably should work harder and get it up to 80%.

arnold ziffel on October 25, 2012 at 1:05 AM

I don’t understand any of it but I enjoy it nonetheless. California is such a beautiful state. Too bad you have such shitty government there. And all the whack-jobs! I rarely visit anymore. It’s been ages.

jaime on October 25, 2012 at 1:11 AM

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Same way they look at me for the cheddar in coffee thing I bet. I know the look well. ; )

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:11 AM

You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:09 AM

For a media that judges itself on “hits” and “comments”, that’s one lame automated socialistic response…

Gohawgs on October 25, 2012 at 1:11 AM

jrsrigmvr on October 25, 2012 at 1:09 AM

Well there’s a relaxing, tune, Fred! You’re in a mellow mood this evening!:)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Gohawgs on October 25, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Plus it makes it hard to ever beat Kools record setting 27.

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:12 AM

OH! There you go! I knew it had something to do with corn of some description! Thanks! :)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:01 AM

I find that walnuts go very well with cheese.. and so do pecans. :)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Cheddar with almonds and apples and ale. Stilton and Derby with walnuts and port. Pecans with just about everything from pie to catfish. A common Cajun / Creole / New Orleans specialty is catfish a la pecan meuniere sauce with just a bit of Worcestershire.

The snack “Bugles” also is made with corn.

viking01 on October 25, 2012 at 1:13 AM

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Yes I didn’t get my bar room brawl last nite but I chilled out.

Schad: It occured to me that my fav drink is another corn product. I think I like corn more than cheese.

jrsrigmvr on October 25, 2012 at 1:16 AM

I walk away for two minutes to put my jammies on and this place goes nuts!

txhsmom on October 25, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Same way they look at me for the cheddar in coffee thing I bet. I know the look well. ; )

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Huh?…

Gohawgs on October 25, 2012 at 1:16 AM

I just have one more song tonight. I looked and looked for a version of this song that was better than the original and I couldn’t find one. Anyway, this will be what Romney’ll be saying on 11/7.

jaime on October 25, 2012 at 1:05 AM

I love it. Was going to play that for you but you beat me to it. Kind of sad though that both marriages broke up. I keep emailing Agnetha but she won’t call back. Must have went to the other team.

arnold ziffel on October 25, 2012 at 1:16 AM

viking01 on October 25, 2012 at 1:13 AM

You’re quite knowledgeable and I agree about the pecans,too. I don’t drink much ale, but I’d love the cheddar and apples with almonds. Love port with Stilton, haven’t tried the Derby. The Cajun catfish sounds very good. :)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:17 AM

The snack “Bugles” also is made with corn.

viking01 on October 25, 2012 at 1:13 AM

Bugles are fun finger food! ^^^^^

kcd on October 25, 2012 at 1:17 AM

txhsmom on October 25, 2012 at 1:16 AM

LOL! Very good. :)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:18 AM

The same thing has happened with black oil sunflower seeds. They are very expensive now.

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Obama has screwed the birds too?

viking01 on October 25, 2012 at 1:18 AM

I like antiestablishmentarianism better.

annoyinglittletwerp on October 25, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Irregardless of whether NY or Chicago Pizza is better antiestablishmentarianism means that you are not adverse to being an un-anti-dis-pro type of person.

SparkPlug on October 25, 2012 at 1:18 AM

Must have went to the other team.

arnold ziffel on October 25, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Knowing you like I do, arnold, that really is the only possible answer.

jaime on October 25, 2012 at 1:18 AM

I love pecan pie! I also love chocolate pecan pie! I even made a walnut pie… and it was good, too. :)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:19 AM

Same way they look at me for the cheddar in coffee thing I bet. I know the look well. ; )

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:11 AM

we talked about this on another thread months ago and at the time thought you were bs’n but found you were not. So do you shred it it in coffee or use it as a stirring stick?

arnold ziffel on October 25, 2012 at 1:19 AM

I walk away for two minutes to put my jammies on and this place goes nuts!

txhsmom on October 25, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Yep. Better stay right here from now on or you will miss out.

SparkPlug on October 25, 2012 at 1:19 AM

I love pecan pie!

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:19 AM

Me too. I almost bought some today.

SparkPlug on October 25, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Obama has screwed the birds too?

viking01 on October 25, 2012 at 1:18 AM

Just ask Big Bird!

kcd on October 25, 2012 at 1:21 AM

SparkPlug on October 25, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Bought some? Poor, Spark! Don’t you have someone to make one for you fresh? :(

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:22 AM

Magic 8 Ball Says:

Dire is not here.

SparkPlug on October 25, 2012 at 1:22 AM

What is your favorite? I will tell you mine, but you go first.

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:08 AM

I like them all and can’t think of one I wouldn’t eat. Same for vegetables. I like variety and don’t eat much of anything at one time. In hard times I could survive easily. Know and love food but don’t crave it. I eat to live, not the other way around.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2012 at 1:22 AM

Huh?…

Gohawgs on October 25, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Its more popular than you might think. At any rate I guess I should crash. Plus mnjg needs the space for something he/she wants to talk about. mnjg, its all yours. I’ll check back tomorrow to see what it was mnjg. In the mean time here’s a little tune for ya .

Good Night All.

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:22 AM

o/t

i know that the barry media has told us that green shoots are busting out all over…but today the Chicago Fed put out its national activity indicator..CFNAI for Sept.

a moving avg. less than -0.7 is bad (like recessionary)…we’re at -0.47

my guess is that everyone is scared to death to do anything but wait until the fiscal cliff happens….good job barry

http://www.chicagofed.org/webpages/research/data/cfnai/current_data.cfm

the history back to 67 is very interesting…

http://www.chicagofed.org/webpages/research/data/cfnai/historical_data.cfm

r keller on October 25, 2012 at 1:22 AM

SparkPlug on October 25, 2012 at 1:22 AM

I noticed that 2

jrsrigmvr on October 25, 2012 at 1:23 AM

Plus it makes it hard to ever beat Kools record setting 27.

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:12 AM

That boy is in a class ALL BY HIMSELF…

Gohawgs on October 25, 2012 at 1:23 AM

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2012 at 1:22 AM

Smart and trim, Schadenfreude! I might have known. :)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:24 AM

I love pecan pie!

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:19 AM

I hear a lot about it, but I’ve never had it.

Once, when I was working in Texas, there were several pecan trees in the garden where I lived. I should have taken the opportunity to find a good recipe and initiate myself. A lost opportunity.

jaime on October 25, 2012 at 1:24 AM

Good Night All.

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:22 AM

‘Nite Bmore

See you soon

jaime on October 25, 2012 at 1:25 AM

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:22 AM

LOL! Perfect! Goodnight, B! Sleep well! :)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:25 AM

SparkPlug on October 25, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Bought some? Poor, Spark! Don’t you have someone to make one for you fresh? :(

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:22 AM

B9 is really more of a Flan girl so I have to buy my Pecan if I want it. Anyway if B9 kicks me out for being a pest I’ll have to stay in your Pool House and then I will get to try some of your Pecan pie wearing my Rock Lobster Oven mitt just for fun.

SparkPlug on October 25, 2012 at 1:25 AM

jaime on October 25, 2012 at 1:24 AM

NEVER had pecan pie??!! Oh my :(

kcd on October 25, 2012 at 1:26 AM

jaime on October 25, 2012 at 1:24 AM

Oh, Jamie… take my advise on this… get yourself a good piece of pecan pie. You can have it cold, warm, with ice cream, or with whipped cream, or just plain… but it is heavenly. :)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:26 AM

arnold ziffel on October 25, 2012 at 1:19 AM

You can shred it. A chuck sliced will work. Grated is also fine. If the coffee is very hot it will melt it. Try it sometime, let me know what you think.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2012 at 1:22 AM

I too love them all. Pecans are my fav, but black walnuts are the most special.

Good Night All.

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:27 AM

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2012 at 12:57 AM

If that is true about the French they are missing out. Nothing better then Fresh picked white corn on the grill or boiled. Picked and cooked same day. Sweet!

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:00 AM

It all depends on the type of corn. In France (and pretty much all over Europe, since it’s the EU that sets the agro rules) they grow mainly ‘ field corn” (I think this is the right term) which is hard and not really meant/grown for human consumption. That’s why people react negatively there when anybody mentions corn on the cob…the one they grown here for consumption is way different… personally I don’t like any type of corn, European or American, but I love some corn-based foods, like polenta, for instance. Also in rural parts of France they do a yummie corn porridge called millas, not sure how wide spread it is, but I had it a couple of times and it was excellent. They also do a sweet version of that, more like a corn pudding, I didnt like that too much though.

jimver on October 25, 2012 at 1:28 AM

SparkPlug on October 25, 2012 at 1:25 AM

Now, since you have your rock lobster oven mitt, there’s no reason that a resourceful guy like you couldn’t make a decent pie crust and make his own pecan pie. Trust me… its not that hard… and you’d love it fresh and homemade! :)

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:28 AM

chuck=chunk Lol!

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:28 AM

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:26 AM

It has to be a good one, cuz I’ve had some bad ones… yuck!

kcd on October 25, 2012 at 1:28 AM

nite b

jrsrigmvr on October 25, 2012 at 1:29 AM

thatsafactjack on October 25, 2012 at 1:26 AM

When you say “good”, how will I know beforehand? There are “good” apple pies and then all the rest, but it’s hard to tell in advance whether a pie will be good until you get familiar with the brand (or bakery). Can you recommend a good pecan pie?

jaime on October 25, 2012 at 1:30 AM

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:27 AM

Where are the thread police when ya need ‘em?…

Gohawgs on October 25, 2012 at 1:30 AM

Bmore on October 25, 2012 at 1:27 AM

Oh, I thought you asked about legumes.

Nuts…I’m a coconut at times, as you know, ’cause it’s the biggest nut…also love to eat it once a year, preferrably off the tree, fresh, sometimes gazpacho served in it, or a nice drink…for the smaller varieties I like hazelnuts, pistachios, almonds, chestnuts at X-mas, self-roasted, and I agree on the black walnut variety. To be sure all nuts are good.

Schadenfreude on October 25, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Can you recommend a good pecan pie?

jaime on October 25, 2012 at 1:30 AM

One that is somewhere else…

Gohawgs on October 25, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Can you recommend a good pecan pie?

jaime on October 25, 2012 at 1:30 AM

Homemade is best. It’s a thanksgiving tradition around here.

jrsrigmvr on October 25, 2012 at 1:32 AM

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