New Hampshire: Romney 50, Obama 48

posted at 4:41 pm on October 24, 2012 by Allahpundit

New from Rasmussen, it’s the second poll in as many days showing Romney up two points in NH. Of the last eight polls taken in the state, he leads in four, is tied in two more, trails by a single point in another, and the last is an outlier. (Rasmussen’s last poll of NH, taken eight days ago, had Obama up by a point.) Why should you care about that? Simple: If Ohio doesn’t pan out for Mitt, his lone remaining path to the presidency may well be hitting an exacta with New Hampshire and Wisconsin. If he wins Florida, Virginia, and Colorado, all of which are big but necessary ifs, that’ll put him at 257 in RCP’s electoral vote model. He can then get to 270 either with Ohio (18) or with NH + WI (14). I’m thinking those two states are a bit likelier to turn red than, say, Iowa or Nevada, not only because of the current RCP poll averages but because of the GOP ticket’s regional ties to them. (Romney not only governed the state next door, he has a vacation home in New Hampshire.) Besides, Iowa and Nevada each have only six EVs, so the most they can do for him without winning Wisconsin, New Hampshire, or Ohio is clinch a dreaded 269-269 tie. But then, the odds of Mitt winning IA and NV (or PA or MI) while losing the other three seem astronomical. So Ohio remains Plan A, but Wisconsin and New Hampshire are Plan B. He’s on track, narrowly, in the latter state, but there hasn’t been a new poll of Wisconsin since Sunday. Maybe tomorrow? Until then, this intriguing tidbit will have to do:

Priorities USA is, of course, Obama’s Super PAC. Team O is talking verrrry tough to Mark Halperin (“I was struck by the expression of near certainty that their candidate would be re-elected”), but Josh Kraushaar makes a nice point about the battleground states. One thing they have in common is that they’re not in O’s demographic sweet spot:

The one hole in that argument is their own acknowledgment of where they’re running strongest — the five-state firewall of OH, IA, NH, NV and WI. With the notable exception of NV, these are heavily-white states and skew older. These aren’t the states where their base coalition; it’s where they’re running competitively enough with white voters (particularly working-class women). And implicity, they acknowledge they’re not ahead (they’re tied, presumably) in the states with the highest youth/minority vote combo: VA, NC and CO.

So if the GOTV operation is firing on all cylinders in a state like VA but the race is even, one would imagine he’s struggling with white voters. And in order to win those firewall states, he has to overperform his natl average with those same white voters.

Via John McCormack of the Standard, the early voting totals among O’s base in Virginia are apparently lagging:

Per RCP’s EV projections, if Obama holds on in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Iowa, and Nevada, he’s at 249 and needs to find 21 votes between Ohio, Virginia, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, and Colorado. Virginia has the second-most EVs in that list behind Ohio, so if he loses them both, he’ll have to win all three of the others to clinch. Not impossible, but if the bigger battleground states are tilting away from him, it’d be some trick if he figured out a way to reverse that momentum in the smaller ones and pile up enough of them to eke over the finish line.

Update: Just as I’m writing this, Time is out with a new poll of Ohio showing Obama up by five. However:


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TarheelBen on October 24, 2012 at 5:45 PM

This is great and all, but we’re talking VOTES here, not “shifts” and “percentages”. If Ohio were locked up for Romney Obama would be campaigning elsewhere and not wasting his time with a bunch of coal-shoveling hicks looking for subsidies.

The fact that Obama is there, swinging like a half-black Rocky Balboa halfway through the 13th round and landing hooks, crosses, and uppercuts directly on Romney’s 30 million dollar forehead shows that he’s winning.

akaniku on October 24, 2012 at 6:10 PM

akaniku on October 24, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Lol Ohio isn’t locked for anyone.

wargamer6 on October 24, 2012 at 6:11 PM

“Rasmussen used a Rep +1 sample and still couldn’t find Romney ahead.

He’s losing Ohio.

gumbyandpokey on October 24, 2012 at 6:07 PM

D +3

Resist We Much on October 24, 2012 at 6:10 PM”

That D +3 is his national tracking split.

R +1 is what he used for this latest Ohio poll.

gumbyandpokey on October 24, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Seriously, I want to comment those of you that can read the tea leaves and see that Ohio isn’t going to break for Romney. Overly good samples (rasmussen) or overly bad samples (cnn), the poll are almost always bad news for Mitt.

I’m glad to see some reality creeping in as we get closer to election day.

And I hope the realists here will understand that they’ve been deceived and lied to by the partisans who kept saying “everything is OK” and “romney will win ohio” when even they knew the truth.

You’ll get hacks like Hugh Hewitt on election day spouting nonsense about how great turnout is and how all the turnout goals are being met, as he did in 08, only to realize when Ohio is lost, that you were being fed a big steaming pile of crap.

gumbyandpokey on October 24, 2012 at 6:03 PM

You know I had a nice long response typed out to you and I just decided you are not worth it. I pity you.

gophergirl on October 24, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Per RCP’s EV projections, if Obama holds on in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Iowa, and Nevada, he’s at 249 and needs to find 21 votes between Ohio, Virginia, Wisconsin, New Hampshire, and Colorado.

Not hard for Obama to do with Wisconsin + Ohio. Three polls of Ohio came out today: one that shows a tie, one that shows Obama +3, and one that shows Obama +5. Right now, save for New Hampshire, the RCP No Tossups map looks like it’s correct.

Stoic Patriot on October 24, 2012 at 6:14 PM

I agree completely. I was just pointing out that some of the posters here are going overboard in their optimism. I am going to do every thing I can to help assure a Romney win on 11/6.

We can’t afford another 4 years of Obama

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Numbers don’t lie Pink. As I’ve been saying for the past few days, look at the internals, look at the expected turnout. It’s bad for Obama, it’s good for Romney.

And frankly, I think we need to do anything we can to pound reality into the left and discourage them with the truth as much as possible. The left and the media have been able to get away with discouraging Republican turnout for 80 years.

Optimism isn’t bad for turnout is it?

oldroy on October 24, 2012 at 6:14 PM

PolAgnostic on October 24, 2012 at 6:06 PM

I’m sorry if I come across that way, but in 2008, it was the same song and dance except it was: “Don’t you know PUMA’s hate Obama and are going to push McCain over the top. Then came election day PUMA’s voted Obama 90%.

I WANT to believe in victory.

Realistically, African Americans are not going to turn out in 2008 numbers, but they can’t be discounted completely.

There still hasn’t been a poll out of OH, that has budged in our favor. Every OTHER swing state has shown movement towards Romney except OH. That is why I am concerned.

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Romney should be up by ten at this point. This is not headed in the right direction.

Now Obama isn’t at 44 or 45 he’s up to 49 and there only a few percent undecided.

Romney will not fight if this is close.

Why does the gop manage to screw a slam dunk all the time????

Ggggggrrrrrrrr.

PappyD61 on October 24, 2012 at 6:15 PM

R +1 is what he used for this latest Ohio poll.

gumbyandpokey on October 24, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Not according to “Scott,” as you call him.

Resist We Much on October 24, 2012 at 6:16 PM

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Except that this time, early voting shows Ds are down and Rs are up. OH SoS site has the data.

wargamer6 on October 24, 2012 at 6:16 PM

You’ll get hacks like Hugh Hewitt on election day spouting nonsense about how great turnout is and how all the turnout goals are being met, as he did in 08, only to realize when Ohio is lost, that you were being fed a big steaming pile of crap.

gumbyandpokey on October 24, 2012 at 6:03 PM

If Romney wins indies by 8 or more, he wins Ohio.

It’s simple math.

Chuck Schick on October 24, 2012 at 6:16 PM

Look at the way Ohio and Wisconsin have been trending. Ohio seems too be in love with their bailouts, and they rejected public sector union reforms. The poll numbers haven’t budged for weeks despite all the money being thrown at it. Ohio has gotten a taste of the the government tit and they don’t care how awful Obama has been.

Wisconsin completely defanged and demoralized the left and walker, maybe the most radical reform governor favoring small government policies cruised to victory in a recall election that unions spent millions on. GOP GOTV proved decisive and it looks like Wisconsin is ready to flip red, while Ohio is trending towards becoming a new California.

I don’t believe any of the anecdotal “yard sign” evidence either. Know why? I live in the ultimate socialist paradise of Cali, and there are no yard signs, bumper stickers or Obama t shirts here. Nothing. Not even in Berkeley! However, I have no delusions about who these commie whackos are supporting.

1984 in real life on October 24, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Agree 100%. I want 0bama out as bad as anyone, but I’m not seeing any see-saw battle in OH like the W/Kerry polls. It’s always been 0bama ahead and Romney within striking distance, but still behind. If other swing-state polls have shown a shift to Romney, there’s no reason we shouldn’t be seeing one in OH if one was happening.

For the record, I had a faint hope mccain/Palin was going to pull it out on Election Day. Maybe that’s the reason I’m more skeptical about this year’s race.

Lou Budvis on October 24, 2012 at 6:17 PM

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Except that this time, early voting shows Ds are down and Rs are up. OH SoS site has the data.

wargamer6 on October 24, 2012 at 6:16 PM

Same with voter registration and voter enthusiasm.

oldroy on October 24, 2012 at 6:17 PM

That D +3 is his national tracking split.

R +1 is what he used for this latest Ohio poll.

gumbyandpokey on October 24, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Stop lying. Rass used a D+4.

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:17 PM

Why is HA ignoring the Mourdock controversy?

Mark1971 on October 24, 2012 at 4:49 PM

Because the Dumbocrats who are trying to fluff up what is really a big nothingburger don’t deserve the notice? Much like the dingbatted attention ho gumbyandpokey.

Anti-Control on October 24, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Romney should be up by ten at this point. This is not headed in the right direction.

PappyD61 on October 24, 2012 at 6:15 PM

By who’s count should he be up by ten now Pappy?

oldroy on October 24, 2012 at 6:19 PM

Everybody knows that CNN has a GOP house effect. Obviously this poll really means Obama is up 263%.

besser tot als rot on October 24, 2012 at 6:19 PM

You Obamabots are really pathetic…
Forget that he WILL go down in history as the WORST president we have ever had, a no talent affirmative action man child, IF he was REALLY doing so well in Ohio he would NOT still be there the way he is.
The secret is in the TRENDS, as any half decent pollster will tell you. Romney is trending up and positive, the Obamanation is on the downslide and starting to crash and burn. He is trying to establish a so-called “firewall,” while Romney is EXPANDING he map…

Janovus on October 24, 2012 at 6:20 PM

That D +3 is his national tracking split.

R +1 is what he used for this latest Ohio poll.

gumbyandpokey on October 24, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Stop lying. Rass used a D+4.

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:17 PM

Dem pols and their operatives just make up whatever numbers or facts they want, knowing that while a few people might check it out and find out that they are wrong, most won’t.

besser tot als rot on October 24, 2012 at 6:21 PM

oldroy on October 24, 2012 at 6:19 PM

That mythical “TrueCon” he’s been carping about for months.

wargamer6 on October 24, 2012 at 6:21 PM

“I’m sorry if I come across that way, but in 2008, it was the same song and dance except it was: “Don’t you know PUMA’s hate Obama and are going to push McCain over the top. Then came election day PUMA’s voted Obama 90%.”

It was the same in 08 with hillbuzz and all their nonsense, obi-wan over at NRO and guys like Hugh Hewitt, who intentionally deceived people right up until the election was called for Obama.

Anyone who says Romney is doing well in Ohio is intentionally misleading you. If he was in an OK position, you would see some better poll numbers (as is happening in Colorado).

gumbyandpokey on October 24, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Romney should be up by ten at this point. This is not headed in the right direction.

PappyD61 on October 24, 2012 at 6:15 PM
By who’s count should he be up by ten now Pappy?

oldroy on October 24, 2012 at 6:19 PM

In the real world with an honest press, Romney would be crushing Obama now…

The real validation comes on the night of NO-vember 6th…

Khun Joe on October 24, 2012 at 6:21 PM

I’m still optimistic that we are winning this thing, but it makes me sick thinking Obama could pull out a last minute miracle and hold Ohio cause we chose that hill to die on.

Go into PA, WI, MI. Go hard at NH, NV. Wrap up CO. lets keep our options open.

I mean no disrespect to people in Ohio with eyes on the ground but it doesn’t mean anything. Like I said, there’s no support for Obama in CA this year, no signs, etc. I could drive through the majority of the state and convince myself that this is a red state in disguise but I know better.

1984 in real life on October 24, 2012 at 6:22 PM

Numbers don’t lie Pink. As I’ve been saying for the past few days, look at the internals, look at the expected turnout. It’s bad for Obama, it’s good for Romney.

And frankly, I think we need to do anything we can to pound reality into the left and discourage them with the truth as much as possible. The left and the media have been able to get away with discouraging Republican turnout for 80 years.

Optimism isn’t bad for turnout is it?

oldroy on October 24, 2012 at 6:14 PM

I don’t see that at all. And I know we are all motivated to vote. I am saying we have to work harder to make sure Romney makes it over the finish line.

Optimism is not bad. Cheerleading is.

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:22 PM

Posts like this outlining how conservatives have to accept Ohio as probably not being a likely gain for them and coming up with absurd paths to the nomination involving Wisconsin. Newsflash: Romney hasn’t won a single poll in Wisconsin since August. It isn’t happening. If you’re counting on that to save him from his collapse in Ohio then you’re going to be very disappointed by the results come election day.

Typhonsentra on October 24, 2012 at 6:22 PM

The secret is in the TRENDS, as any half decent pollster will tell you. Romney is trending up and positive, the Obamanation is on the downslide and starting to crash and burn. He is trying to establish a so-called “firewall,” while Romney is EXPANDING he map…

Janovus on October 24, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Looks like the trend’s pretty stable after October 9.

Stoic Patriot on October 24, 2012 at 6:23 PM

TarheelBen on October 24, 2012 at 6:09 PM


NO!
I was linking the Eeyores back to your excellent post they ignored upthread.

PolAgnostic on October 24, 2012 at 6:23 PM

Joe Biden in Ohio: HERE IN IOWA!

El_Terrible on October 24, 2012 at 6:23 PM

Anyone who says Romney is doing well in Ohio is intentionally misleading you. If he was in an OK position, you would see some better poll numbers (as is happening in Colorado).

gumbyandpokey on October 24, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Romney has great poll numbers in Ohio if you look at the raw numbers and not the weightings.

The latest poll has him up 15 with indies.

He will not lose with numbers like that on election day.

Chuck Schick on October 24, 2012 at 6:23 PM

Stoic Patriot on October 24, 2012 at 6:23 PM

How’s your BFF Virgil Goode doing? Has he broken 1% anywhere?

wargamer6 on October 24, 2012 at 6:24 PM

I was just pointing out that some of the posters here are going overboard in their optimism.
Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Raquel, try and see that you are projecting your own worries and concerns onto us. Optimism does not ‘jinx’ the election and you have no more handle on reality than anyone else here.

If you want to be a Worried Warrior rather than a Happy Warrior from here until the election, you’ll miss out on a lot of fun.

Mitsouko on October 24, 2012 at 6:25 PM

gumbyandpokey on October 24, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Please ensure you are ONLINE and commenting on Election Night NO-vember 6th…

Wear your pinata outfit… I don’t have crr6 to kick around anymore, so you’ll have to do…

Get a note SIGNED from your Mom so you’ll be allowed to stay up late in order to be able to take your medicine…

Khun Joe on October 24, 2012 at 6:25 PM

If you’re counting on that to save him from his collapse in Ohio then you’re going to be very disappointed by the results come election day.

Typhonsentra on October 24, 2012 at 6:22 PM

You lost New Hampshire while you were typing that.

Chuck Schick on October 24, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Adrian Gray ‏@adrian_gray
OHIO: Bellwether counties 2012: Republican turnout beating Democrat turnout as % of 2008 turnout (106% to 74%).

jaygatz33 on October 24, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Time has to release a skewed poll to keep the Rasmussan average tight. God forbid Obama should be slipping away in the most crucial swing state… that would be demoralizing to Democrat voters.

Jurisprudence on October 24, 2012 at 6:25 PM

How’s your BFF Virgil Goode doing? Has he broken 1% anywhere?

wargamer6 on October 24, 2012 at 6:24 PM

He’s rarely polled, but when PPP had polled him in Virginia he garnered 9%.

Stoic Patriot on October 24, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Let’s see, you had some polls of Bush +2, Bush +4, Bush +5 and Bush +1. How many Ohio polls have had Romney up by more than 1 point?

gumbyandpokey on October 24, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Hello, ever since you proudly proclaimed last night that “nobody cares” about the fact that our President knew in real time that our embassy was under attack in Benghazi, I’ve stopped considering you a harmless joke fun to toy with. You are a sleazy pathetic partisan leftist troll who hasn’t even the basic moral compass necessary to care whether our citizens live or die, or whether the government should be responsible for the one basic necessity of protecting human life. Filth like you should not be played with, or humored. It should be cleaned up and swept away never to be seen again.

That said, why don’t you go back and recheck what I wrote below there. You even friggin’ quoted it, so at least stop drooling on yourself long enough to read it. No poll is going to show Romney with a lead when they are sampling Democrats at turnout greater than the wave year of 2008. If you want to believe that Democrats are going to come out in greater margins than four years ago, then by all means go ahead. Believe that. Axelrod and Messina probably have a job waiting for you in Chicago since hoping for that seems to be their backup plan now that they are seeing VA and CO out of reach.

“Bu-bu-but, Rasmussen” you are about to stammer… Yes. And Rasmussen’s poll is also crap. Almost as if those who make a living off of close elections are willing to foster that meme, isn’t it? It shows independents breaking for Obama 45-43, when that is simply not the case. Every other poll shows otherwise, with Romney taking Independents by at least 5%, sometimes upward of 15%. Again, as often as you like to quote Numbersmuncher out of context, I’d think you’d already know this. I again blame your inability to read what you post.

Finally, Ohio always has a late break. Ohio voters have been told they’re the deciders for so long that they’ve grown to desire the courting almost as much as New Hampshire primary voters. They’re also down to earth blue collar guys and ladies though, and don’t wear their preference on their sleeve. As such they follow their sports, they enjoy their autumn, and when the calendar flips to November they decide and cast their vote.

Not that I’m getting this from any valid source, only… I dunno… people in Ohio. But what would they know…

Gingotts on October 24, 2012 at 6:25 PM

If Romney wins indies by 8 or more, he wins Ohio.

It’s simple math.

Chuck Schick on October 24, 2012 at 6:16 PM

He doesn’t even need them by that much, 4 or 5 will do – but I’d bet it will be 8 or so. More Dems are crossing than Reps.

Men by substantially more gap than Women.

Plus as others have mentioned, these polls are polling 9% of the Country willing to answer the phone. How do you model the behaviour, splits and votes of the people who won’t answer?

What kind of voter by far, refuses to answer the phone?

Like you say Schick, simple math. You can’t put an equation together to calculate these that looks better for Obama than it does for Romney.

oldroy on October 24, 2012 at 6:25 PM

jimver on October 24, 2012 at 6:04 PM

I agree completely. I was just pointing out that some of the posters here are going overboard in their optimism. I am going to do every thing I can to help assure a Romney win on 11/6.

We can’t afford another 4 years of Obama

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:08 PM

We are in agreement. And talking of depressing (though I don’t really want to) look at the frequency of posting of this disgusting hyena, gumbey since a couple here, on this thread expressed doubt about Ohio…now he’s unhinged, trying to plant doubts in people’s mind, why do you think he’s here for…looks like it’s working on a few….trust your instincts, keep up the good work and vote, all we can do. Gumbey is just polluting here with his stench and noise.

jimver on October 24, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Stop with the circular firing squad on Murdock. Who gives a F— about what Murdock said. It’s a Nothingburer to me and I am a female.

We need to keep together.

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Ras: R 50% O 46%

Gallup: R 50% O 47%

ABC/WaPO: R 49% O 48%

“Overall, the contest remains unchanged from Tuesday, with 49 percent of likely voters nationally backing Romney, and 48 percent supporting Obama. But as was the case after the first and second debates, more voters say they have better, not worse, opinions of the former Massachusetts governor when assessing the three debates.

Most say the president’s debate performances did not change their views of him, a continuing challenge for an incumbent stuck with an approval rating in dangerous territory: 50 percent of likely voters approve of how he’s handling the job, 49 percent disapprove.

Romney has a six-percentage-point lead on handling the economy itself.

Among political independents, 49 percent say Romney is the one who is more empathetic with ongoing economic woes; 45 percent say Obama is more in tune. That’s not a statistically significant advantage for the challenger, but does represent a directional shift from before the first debate.

Looking at handling the economy as a broad issue, Romney’s lead among independents has swelled to 56 to 39 percent in the new poll, an advantage that helps him to a sizable, 12-point lead over Obama when it comes to their voting preferences. Obama won independent and other voters by eight percentage points in 2008.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/10/24/post-abc-tracking-poll-obama-wins-final-debate-romney-gains-supporters/

“But there are fledgling signs of a fresh advantage for the challenger. Asked whom they trust on the economy, 50 percent of likely voters say Romney while 45 percent side with the president.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/10/23/post-abc-tracking-poll-romney-49-percent-obama-48/?print=1

Reuters/Ipsos: R 47% O 46%

“Romney held a wider lead among independent voters, who will be crucial to winning on Election Day. Thirty-seven percent of them said they would pick the Republican if elections were held today and 31 percent chose Obama.”

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/romney-steals-narrow-lead-obama-election-nears-185135786.html

Resist We Much on October 24, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Seriously, I want to comment those of you…

gumbyandpokey on October 24, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Pile of crap it is, that’s for sure. On 5th grade level, if not lower. Only an “intellectual and educated” liberal moron has no idea what “commend” is.

And these idiots are trying to convince themselves they are the “thinking elite”? Stinking elite is more like it and actual reality for them.

Communists, just like sh*t they are, always float to the top…

riddick on October 24, 2012 at 6:27 PM

If you’re counting on that to save him from his collapse in Ohio then you’re going to be very disappointed by the results come election day.

Typhonsentra on October 24, 2012 at 6:22 PM

You should be more concerned with your own mental collapse..it’s showing badly…

jimver on October 24, 2012 at 6:27 PM

I think I am getting myself more acquainted with reality. Even with a skewed poll, Ohio looks bad for Romney if you take away the skew. The Democrat parts of the state will have the most people and will put Obama over the top.

We are going to need a miracle to win. I dont fault Romney at all, I fault the media and the people in this country. I think we’ll have a close election but will ultimately lose.

Not a troll, I just cant put on rose colored glasses. We have to face the fact that there are a lot of stupid people and people who vote that shouldnt vote.

bucsox79 on October 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM

John Podhoretz ‏@jpodhoretz

Democratic pollster Celinda Lake has Ohio at 46-44 Obama, 600 likely voters–that 9 percent undecided a big deal in a partisan poll.

Forget the media- this is a Democrat pollster.

An incumbent 13 days out at 46 is called a former president.

Chuck Schick on October 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM

We are in agreement. And talking of depressing (though I don’t really want to) look at the frequency of posting of this disgusting hyena, gumbey since a couple here, on this thread expressed doubt about Ohio…now he’s unhinged, trying to plant doubts in people’s mind, why do you think he’s here for…looks like it’s working on a few….trust your instincts, keep up the good work and vote, all we can do. Gumbey is just polluting here with his stench and noise.

jimver on October 24, 2012 at 6:25 PM

I don’t know why Allah or Ed or Erika hasn’t banned GumbyPokeMe he is the most annoying concern troll/Moby of all time. He has been going on and on with the same bs since he surfaced with”Walker is done in WI” and acted like a “concerned conservative.”

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM

If you believed that McCain was still going to win, you were lying to yourself. McCain had sunk his ship long before this day in the election, and Obama was literally cruising to a win.

Here where I live, very Union in a very blue state, 2008 was clearly going to be all about Obama. He was everywhere, on every car, every sign, everywhere.

Here in 2012, recent poll has him up by 5%. FIVE. In a state he won by 17% four years ago. In a state that is inclined to vote for every idiot liberal thrown at them.

And there isn’t a single darn Obama sign anywhere. Not one. If Obama can’t get his base in this ridiculously blue of blue states to go crazy for him, it’s not gonna happen in conservative leaning states like Ohio.

Anecdotal, I know. But who are you going to believe? Polls of 9% of the population, a troll on a website, or your own eyes?

duanesm on October 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM

NO! I was linking the Eeyores back to your excellent post they ignored upthread.

PolAgnostic on October 24, 2012 at 6:23 PM

Oh ok, thanks. :D

TarheelBen on October 24, 2012 at 6:30 PM

Posts like this outlining how conservatives have to accept Ohio as probably not being a likely gain for them and coming up with absurd paths to the nomination involving Wisconsin. Newsflash: Romney hasn’t won a single poll in Wisconsin since August. It isn’t happening. If you’re counting on that to save him from his collapse in Ohio then you’re going to be very disappointed by the results come election day.

Typhonsentra on October 24, 2012 at 6:22 PM

If Ohio is doing so well for Obama, then explain the report last night of Team 0 seeking a path around Ohio – holding MI, PA, WI, NV, IA, NH and trying to take back one of CO and VA.

But hold it, that isn’t a go… Today it’s talk of a pushback in FL. Because completing the Hail Mary in FL instead of VA doesn’t require holding WI, IA and NH, see? Reminds me of a certain Arizona Senator trying a last ditch plan to win Pennsylvania…

Options are starting to look kind of thin on your side aren’t they? No wonder Barry is allowing the public to see desperate mopey e-mails that he is sadly sending out begging for money.

Gingotts on October 24, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Mitt is the consummate, well-prepared businessman.

I assure you, Mitt has Plan “A”, “B” & “C” already formulated, many months ago.

Each Plan is even in a binder, with all needed info and data to complete the deal.

Top echelon private equity dudes and venture capitalists all have multiple plans for each project, based on the numbers.

It’s what these folks do.

Typicalwhitewoman on October 24, 2012 at 6:31 PM

“Finally, Ohio always has a late break. Ohio voters have been told they’re the deciders for so long that they’ve grown to desire the courting almost as much as New Hampshire primary voters. They’re also down to earth blue collar guys and ladies though, and don’t wear their preference on their sleeve. As such they follow their sports, they enjoy their autumn, and when the calendar flips to November they decide and cast their vote.”

OK, that’s possible.

There was a late break for Bush in 04.

But with so much early voting going on, I don’t know how much of a break/switch there can be.

If Romney continues to struggle into next weekend in OH, I don’t think that late break is happening.

gumbyandpokey on October 24, 2012 at 6:32 PM

That D +3 is his national tracking split.

R +1 is what he used for this latest Ohio poll.

gumbyandpokey on October 24, 2012 at 6:12 PM

D +3 in Ohio.

Resist We Much on October 24, 2012 at 6:32 PM

We are in agreement. And talking of depressing (though I don’t really want to) look at the frequency of posting of this disgusting hyena, gumbey since a couple here, on this thread expressed doubt about Ohio…now he’s unhinged, trying to plant doubts in people’s mind, why do you think he’s here for…looks like it’s working on a few….trust your instincts, keep up the good work and vote, all we can do. Gumbey is just polluting here with his stench and noise.

jimver on October 24, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Well said.

Gingotts on October 24, 2012 at 6:33 PM

now he’s unhinged, trying to plant doubts in people’s mind, why do you think he’s here for…looks like it’s working on a few….trust your instincts, keep up the good work and vote, all we can do. Gumbey is just polluting here with his stench and noise.

jimver on October 24, 2012 at 6:25 PM

While I fully agree with the main point of your post (gumbo stench and unhinged), I can’t agree with the other thought of ANYONE here even thinking about anything this communist cancer is saying.

Too bad the likes of him never had a chance to live in their wet dream, aka USSR, he’d either die rather quickly or quickly change his mind about communism. Scum like him never lasted in GULAG camps while those who despised communism did, even hardened criminals respected political prisoners there.

riddick on October 24, 2012 at 6:33 PM

Anyone who says Romney is doing well in Ohio is intentionally misleading you. If he was in an OK position, you would see some better poll numbers (as is happening in Colorado).

gumbyandpokey on October 24, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Why should Ohio be the same as Colorado? They are two very different places. What matters is both are trending to Romney.
And I wouldn’t go comparing 2008 polls to 2012 as though they are the same. The fundamentals of those elections are very different. Obama’s 2008 victory was clear by mid September. In 2012 we’re seen a late surge for Romney from a hole created by Obama’s negative campaign. It is showing no sign of slowing down and Monday’s debate will do nothing to change it.
Early voting is showing increased enthusiasm for Republicans. Maybe that’s why Rasmussen’s sample is R+1. Things like that are hard to measure in polls but they are the things that decide elections.

breffnian on October 24, 2012 at 6:34 PM

But with so much early voting going on, I don’t know how much of a break/switch there can be.

If Romney continues to struggle into next weekend in OH, I don’t think that late break is happening.

gumbyandpokey on October 24, 2012 at 6:32 PM

Adrian Gray ‏@adrian_gray

OHIO: Bellwether counties 2012: Republican turnout beating Democrat turnout as % of 2008 turnout (106% to 74%).

Can you do the math on this plus the fact Romney is consistently winning indies in the teens?

Or would you like my help?

Chuck Schick on October 24, 2012 at 6:34 PM

Raquel, try and see that you are projecting your own worries and concerns onto us. Optimism does not ‘jinx’ the election and you have no more handle on reality than anyone else here.

If you want to be a Worried Warrior rather than a Happy Warrior from here until the election, you’ll miss out on a lot of fun.

Mitsouko on October 24, 2012 at 6:25 PM

I am sorry, but we can’t afford another 4 years of Obama. I am getting anxious, and nervous because to ME and Ace over at Ace of Spades and many others, see that OH is among the only swing state that is not moving in our direction. Every other state CO, FL, VA, NH, IA has shown Romney leads and has been trending to him strongly. OH has not. That is what worries me.

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:34 PM

I don’t know why Allah or Ed or Erika hasn’t banned GumbyPokeMe he is the most annoying concern troll/Moby of all time. He has been going on and on with the same bs since he surfaced with”Walker is done in WI” and acted like a “concerned conservative.”

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM

Personally, I get pleasure from seeing trolls twist themselves into pretzels trying to predict an Obama win. “ROMNEY IS COLLAPSING” — From 51% to 50%” “INTRADE THE ONLY POLL THAT MATTERS” “R+5″

I’m going to expect one last push from the DNC/msm to change the narrative, and then we’ll see the bottom to fall out.

El_Terrible on October 24, 2012 at 6:34 PM

He has been going on and on with the same bs since he surfaced with”Walker is done in WI” and acted like a “concerned conservative.”

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM

Hold on just a minute, gumbo did say that he voted for Donald Reagan and that proves his conservative stance.

Bishop on October 24, 2012 at 6:35 PM

Typhonsentra on October 24, 2012 at 6:22 PM

Newsflash for you pal, dems have been crushed in every real vote in WI and most other places lately, but go ahead, ignore reality. WI voters recently came out in force and drop kicked the unions/socialists asses in WI and they will do it again.

The same thing will happen in NH and elsewhere as the nation gets to “collectively” boot Obama’s ass out of office.

NH was never going for Obama and I don’t think he will win Maine either.

dogsoldier on October 24, 2012 at 6:36 PM

D +3 in Ohio.

Resist We Much on October 24, 2012 at 6:32 PM

Is that really so? Ed’s post this morning called it R+1, somewhat thin on Indies. I hadn’t heard that it was really D+3, but enough of you are saying it that it has to be based on something.

I trust Ed, but when gumby says it, that inclines me to believe Ed was mistaken and other varying commenters are right.

Gingotts on October 24, 2012 at 6:36 PM

Can you do the math on this plus the fact Romney is consistently winning indies in the teens?

Or would you like my help?

Chuck Schick on October 24, 2012 at 6:34 PM

He’s still learning simple math, 2nd grade level and all, and you somehow expect him to understand percentages and such? Apes are more intelligent than this communist scum…

riddick on October 24, 2012 at 6:36 PM

And the hits keep coming:

Adrian Gray ‏@adrian_gray

OHIO: In bellwether counties, 7% more D’s than R’s voted early this point in 2008. Today, 1% more R’s have voted. A 8.4% net GOP gain.

Chuck Schick on October 24, 2012 at 6:36 PM

I don’t know why Allah or Ed or Erika hasn’t banned GumbyPokeMe he is the most annoying concern troll/Moby of all time. He has been going on and on with the same bs since he surfaced with”Walker is done in WI” and acted like a “concerned conservative.”

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM

I don’t know either, at this point I think Ed should do someting about it, and I am dead serious. he has no justification whatsoever to continue to allow this marionette to prostitute himself here…he’s not even midly entertaining anymore, he’s plain disgusting…

jimver on October 24, 2012 at 6:36 PM

The back and forth with our resident Lib gumbyandpokey proves that conservatives are far more tolerant than libs. I have had many accounts blocked by users of Daily Kos for offering up far less stupid crap than gumby.

lostinjrz on October 24, 2012 at 6:36 PM

An incumbent 13 days out at 46 is called a former president.

Chuck Schick on October 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM

That’s what Josh Jordan of NumbersMuncher says.

Resist We Much on October 24, 2012 at 6:37 PM

There still hasn’t been a poll out of OH, that has budged in our favor. Every OTHER swing state has shown movement towards Romney except OH. That is why I am concerned.

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:14 PM

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The only polls out of Ohio you are going to see are ALWAYS going to be skewed BECAUSE if Romney wins Ohio, Florida, Virginia, North Carolina and Colorado IT IS ALL OVER.

and ALL just doesn’t mean the SCOAMF – it means downticket Democrats like Sherrod Brown and control of the Senate.

Any LIE will be told to try to keep Ohio in play because if the LSM puts out a poll two weeks, one week or three days before November 6th it will say the Presidential race is OVER and the Democratic turnout will completely tank across the country.

Read the other posts I have made in this thread. Read Tarheel Ben’s post I linked.

PolAgnostic on October 24, 2012 at 6:38 PM

Turnout!!!!

And does ANYONE have info on how the early voting in 2008 compared to final results in the various states?

PappyD61 on October 24, 2012 at 6:38 PM

Gingotts on October 24, 2012 at 6:36 PM

That is what Scott said and what I was told concerning the Ohio poll.

Resist We Much on October 24, 2012 at 6:38 PM

I’m going to expect one last push from the DNC/msm to change the narrative, and then we’ll see the bottom to fall out.

El_Terrible on October 24, 2012 at 6:34 PM

I think that is what we’ll be seeing until Monday. A smattering of last minute “game changer” polls from the media to try and game the RCP board. Then poof.

oldroy on October 24, 2012 at 6:40 PM

Gingotts on October 24, 2012 at 6:31 PM

It could also be a head fake by Obama’s campaign. Remember they did something similar in 2008 with PA.

Allah wrote about it here post election:

As for the key states, here are CNN’s reported margins as of 11 a.m. versus the RCP spreads as of yesterday:

OH: 1/2.5
PA: 11/7.3
VA: 5/4.4
FL: 2/1.8
NC: 1/-0.4
IN: 1/-1.4
IA: 9/15.3
MN: 10/9.8
CO: 7/5.5
NM: 15/7.3

The only two that were called incorrectly were razor thin and were called incorrectly for McCain, and the only one that vastly overestimated Obama’s support was Iowa, where he won by nine points anyway. Oh well.

Exit question via Taegan Goddard: Did The One head-fake Maverick in Pennsylvania? Better exit question from yours truly: Even if he hadn’t, wouldn’t McCain have been forced to make a play for the state anyway to try to make up the difference in electoral votes?

We have to work harder for the next 13 days. Every day wake ask ourselves what have we done to help Romney win?

I remember in 2008, how we were a bubble, were we all were convinced McCain was going to pull it out. I know how I felt after Election day.

It’s too important, can’t take anything for granted.

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:40 PM

Turnout!!!!

And does ANYONE have info on how the early voting in 2008 compared to final results in the various states?

PappyD61 on October 24, 2012 at 6:38 PM

https://twitter.com/adrian_gray

As was quoted above, Adrian Gray has been tweeting about OH. It looks good. Make sure you expand the top conversations.

INC on October 24, 2012 at 6:42 PM

Turnout!!!!

And does ANYONE have info on how the early voting in 2008 compared to final results in the various states?

PappyD61 on October 24, 2012 at 6:38 PM

There has been such a big push to get early turnout this time that I don’t think you could predict anything by this number.

oldroy on October 24, 2012 at 6:42 PM

The only polls out of Ohio you are going to see are ALWAYS going to be skewed BECAUSE if Romney wins Ohio, Florida, Virginia, North Carolina and Colorado IT IS ALL OVER.

PolAgnostic on October 24, 2012 at 6:38 PM

One of the reasons communist scum are so “defending” OH is that come Nov 6th, if FL, OH and other states are seemingly in GOP corner, then a number of states in the West (CO, NV, etc) may be swayed to GOP even further. And I actually expect that demoralized liberals will simply stay home as numbers Eastern numbers keep rolling in. OH is pretty much their last stand for now.

riddick on October 24, 2012 at 6:42 PM

The only polls out of Ohio you are going to see are ALWAYS going to be skewed BECAUSE if Romney wins Ohio, Florida, Virginia, North Carolina and Colorado IT IS ALL OVER.

and ALL just doesn’t mean the SCOAMF – it means downticket Democrats like Sherrod Brown and control of the Senate.

Any LIE will be told to try to keep Ohio in play because if the LSM puts out a poll two weeks, one week or three days before November 6th it will say the Presidential race is OVER and the Democratic turnout will completely tank across the country.

Read the other posts I have made in this thread. Read Tarheel Ben’s post I linked.

PolAgnostic on October 24, 2012 at 6:38 PM

Fair enough, I HOPE you’re right. But I am still worried. I won’t take anything for granted until 11/6. It’s very important we win.

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:43 PM

For OH updates and early turnout numbers everyone needs to folow>>> @ningrim

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:45 PM

One of the reasons communist scum are so “defending” OH is that come Nov 6th, if FL, OH and other states are seemingly in GOP corner, then a number of states in the West (CO, NV, etc) may be swayed to GOP even further. And I actually expect that demoralized liberals will simply stay home as numbers Eastern numbers keep rolling in. OH is pretty much their last stand for now.

riddick on October 24, 2012 at 6:42 PM

I agree with that. If polls show Ohio over, nobody pays for more polls. And as such the Dems and the pollsters will do as much as possible to “keep Ohio in play”.

oldroy on October 24, 2012 at 6:45 PM

I don’t know either, at this point I think Ed should do someting about it, and I am dead serious. he has no justification whatsoever to continue to allow this marionette to prostitute himself here…he’s not even midly entertaining anymore, he’s plain disgusting…

jimver on October 24, 2012 at 6:36 PM

Amen. I really didn’t care until the Gumbo posted last night that no one cared about BenghaziGate.

It is time for him to go and I’m jingling my keys as I type.

JPeterman on October 24, 2012 at 6:46 PM

Fair enough, I HOPE you’re right. But I am still worried. I won’t take anything for granted until 11/6. It’s very important we win.

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:43 PM

All you gotta do is look at the last debate. One guy was confident of cruising to victory, the other was jumpy, desperate to provoke a fight and score points. That’s where we are in this race.

El_Terrible on October 24, 2012 at 6:46 PM

For OH updates and early turnout numbers everyone needs to follow>> https://twitter.com/ningrim

Forgot the link last post.

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:46 PM

I remember in 2008, how we were a bubble, were we all were convinced McCain was going to pull it out. I know how I felt after Election day.

It’s too important, can’t take anything for granted.

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:40 PM

I knew Obama was going to win when absolutely nothing stuck to Obama. There were legit stories that came out about him throughout the campaign and NOTHING would stick.

This time nothing is sticking to Romney. While none of the stories about Romney are even legit or worthwhile, it is still telling given what the media tries to push.

MobileVideoEngineer on October 24, 2012 at 6:48 PM

I don’t know why Allah or Ed or Erika hasn’t banned GumbyPokeMe he is the most annoying concern troll/Moby of all time. He has been going on and on with the same bs since he surfaced with”Walker is done in WI” and acted like a “concerned conservative.”

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM

How is it gumbyandpokey’s fault that people ridiculously keep responding to him?

It’s not Allah’s or Ed’s responsibility to babysit us – they expect adults to handle their own problems with dumb@ss trolls, as they should.

Anti-Control on October 24, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Here’s some other factoids from the Rasmussen Ohio poll:

* R has a +5 favourability rating (51/46)

* O has a 0 favourability rating (49/49)

* R has a +3 “very” favourable rating (38/35 “very” unfavourable)

* O has a -3 “very” favourable rating (37/40 “very” unfavourable)

* R +5 trust advantage on the economy (51 R/44 O)

* 46% economy will get better under Republican control of the presidency and Congress

* 36% economy will get worse under Republican control of the presidency and Congress

* 40% economy will get better under Democratic control of the presidency and Congress

* 37% economy will get better under Democratic control of the presidency and Congress

Resist We Much on October 24, 2012 at 6:50 PM

I remember in 2008, how we were a bubble, were we all were convinced McCain was going to pull it out. I know how I felt after Election day.

It’s too important, can’t take anything for granted.

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:40 PM

No. Don’t take it for granted. Don’t take anything for granted. If you live in Arizona or Indiana, go vote. But don’t allow Obama’s 50-cent army come on here and peddle their nonsense into your head either. If that’s going to distract or demoralize you, then get off of Hot Air, spend the resulting free-time getting others to vote, and come back on Nov. 6 when we get to rub the gumbys faces in it.

As for 2008, that must be a varied experience. For me, I first knew it was over when Palin was selected. (Whoa. Wait. Hear me out, first.) I didn’t like that because it meant McCain was throwing wild looking to match the “historic” narrative of the election with his own ID politics games.

Then of course, Palin turned out to be pretty awesome and I had hope again for a while. McCain also did well talking FP when Russia invaded Georgia. Then in September McCain pulled an all-time stupid publicity stunt by suspending his campaign. At no point from mid-September forward did I think we had any chance there.

I remember what it felt like marching to doom in the fall of 2008. I’m not feeling that now. For me it’s more like the first election I followed in 2000, where I know my guy is ahead, but I also know that when the left gets desperate they get dirty. Beware of slime, but stay true to what your brain and gut are telling you. This President is a disaster, and he isn’t delivering a winning performance.

Gingotts on October 24, 2012 at 6:50 PM

I don’t know either, at this point I think Ed should do someting about it, and I am dead serious. he has no justification whatsoever to continue to allow this marionette to prostitute himself here…he’s not even midly entertaining anymore, he’s plain disgusting…

jimver on October 24, 2012 at 6:36 PM

I sent Ed an email the other day about GumpyPokeMe, he didn’t respond yet. GumpyPokeMe is the definition of a Moby/concern troll and is hijacking these threads with his garbage.

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:50 PM

R +1 is what he used for this latest Ohio poll.

rassmussen said on fox this am ALL polls dem +3

gerrym51 on October 24, 2012 at 6:52 PM

While I fully agree with the main point of your post (gumbo stench and unhinged), I can’t agree with the other thought of ANYONE here even thinking about anything this communist cancer is saying.

Too bad the likes of him never had a chance to live in their wet dream, aka USSR, he’d either die rather quickly or quickly change his mind about communism. Scum like him never lasted in GULAG camps while those who despised communism did, even hardened criminals respected political prisoners there.

riddick on October 24, 2012 at 6:33 PM

I actually wouldn’t have posted that if I hadn’t seen a post up thread saying literally that probably Gumbey was right about ohio. I can’t reproduce the name of that poster here, just a bunch of consonnats that didn’ make much sense to me mainly coz I didn’t pay that much attention..Otherwise, I agree, that parody of a human being, gumbey wouldn’t stand a chance in the Gulag which he so desire to see replicated here, he’s just a faux/phoney to his teeth, an agit prop operative who tries his best at destabilizing and creating panic.

jimver on October 24, 2012 at 6:52 PM

“Amen. I really didn’t care until the Gumbo posted last night that no one cared about BenghaziGate.”

And it’s already down to small-type on Drudge and was ignored on most of the evening newscasts. Just as I said, it didn’t amount to anything.

gumbyandpokey on October 24, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Gingotts on October 24, 2012 at 6:50 PM

I hope it’s like 2004 for us. Though I was too young to vote in 2004, I remember watching election night with my dad, and how he was so worried when the “Exit Polls” came out showing Kerry winning, but then Bush won.

I hope it’s like that.

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:54 PM

Amen. I really didn’t care until the Gumbo posted last night that no one cared about BenghaziGate.

It is time for him to go and I’m jingling my keys as I type.

JPeterman on October 24, 2012 at 6:46 PM

Yep

gophergirl on October 24, 2012 at 6:54 PM

“R +1 is what he used for this latest Ohio poll.

rassmussen said on fox this am ALL polls dem +3

gerrym51 on October 24, 2012 at 6:52 PM”

Those are his national polls.

He varies his state polls samples.

gumbyandpokey on October 24, 2012 at 6:54 PM

Gumby is either a huge liar or one of the most misinformed people in the country. If you look back at 2004 you will find that Bush was polling at +7 a couple weeks out but only won by 2. The undecideds broke huge for Kerry in the last 2 weeks. This means that it is likely that the undecideds, approx 5-6%, will probably break 70-30 for Romney.

Ta111 on October 24, 2012 at 6:55 PM

I don’t know why Allah or Ed or Erika hasn’t banned GumbyPokeMe he is the most annoying concern troll/Moby of all time. He has been going on and on with the same bs since he surfaced with”Walker is done in WI” and acted like a “concerned conservative.”

gumbyandpokey is a troll.But he has never used bad language or done racial slurs.

other than being a liberal moron he does not deserve to be banned

gerrym51 on October 24, 2012 at 6:55 PM

How is it gumbyandpokey’s fault that people ridiculously keep responding to him?

It’s not Allah’s or Ed’s responsibility to babysit us – they expect adults to handle their own problems with dumb@ss trolls, as they should.

Anti-Control on October 24, 2012 at 6:49 PM

GumbyPokeMe goes much further than just “trolling.” He hijacks every thread with his garbage. Enough is enough. It is beyond aggravating coming here to have intelligent conversation and having to navigate through GumpyPokeMe’s garbage.

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:57 PM

I sent Ed an email the other day about GumpyPokeMe, he didn’t respond yet. GumpyPokeMe is the definition of a Moby/concern troll and is hijacking these threads with his garbage.

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 6:50 PM

I know, and I wouldn’t care so much, but the threads have become simply unreadable…it’s just endless scrolling past this caricature’s posts…it’s irritating really…what does he have to contribute exactly other than ‘I told you so’…

jimver on October 24, 2012 at 6:57 PM

gumbyandpokey is a troll.But he has never used bad language or done racial slurs.

other than being a liberal moron he does not deserve to be banned

gerrym51 on October 24, 2012 at 6:55 PM

I agree. And we do and always should be able to defend our arguments even though he/she changes and morphs his/hers from minute to minute.

oldroy on October 24, 2012 at 6:58 PM

heh. Up by 5 in Ohio w/ D+9. So he’s really down by 4 eh?

ted c on October 24, 2012 at 6:59 PM

And it’s already down to small-type on Drudge and was ignored on most of the evening newscasts. Just as I said, it didn’t amount to anything.

gumbyandpokey on October 24, 2012 at 6:53 PM

You are
a flat out liar. Every single newscast has talked about it all day and the King is still refusing to answer and Hillary laughed when asked about it.

It’s huge, scumbag and my keys are still jingling, not that would understand the meaning of that.

It is time for you to go. Now.

JPeterman on October 24, 2012 at 6:59 PM

gerrym51 on October 24, 2012 at 6:55 PM

You can get banned for trolling, I’ve seen it happen here. He’s been banned at Ace’s and Free Republic already.

kingsjester on October 24, 2012 at 7:00 PM

gerrym51 on October 24, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Again all he does is hijack every single thread by poll trolling. He does NOT advance the conversation at all. All he ever posts is some poll.

Ace has banned (known as “Greg” over at Ace’s) him 100s of times but he keeps re-emerging using proxies.

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 24, 2012 at 7:00 PM

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