Hillary on Benghazi: Just because a jihadist group claims credit doesn’t make it so; Update: Attackers tied to Al Qaeda in Iraq?

posted at 10:09 pm on October 24, 2012 by Allahpundit

“Posting something on Facebook is not in and of itself evidence,” she says, responding to last night’s e-mail leak about Ansar al-Sharia taking credit for the attack. True enough, but that’s not the only link to AAS. As I reminded you yesterday, intercepts caught members of the group talking to members of Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb during and after the attack. Libyan eyewitnesses saw the group’s founder outside the consulate while it was happening; he later admitted to having been there while insisting that he was merely directing traffic. There’s plenty of reason beyond the early claim of responsibility on Facebook to think they were involved, but to watch Hillary here, you’d think the Ansar al-Sharia mention in yesterday’s Reuters bombshell was some sort of false lead based on dubious preliminary intel that had evaporated later as the fog cleared.

Which brings me to a larger point. What’s the White House’s current position on whether the attack was inspired by the Mohammed movie? Are they seriously claiming that a hardened Islamist outfit with AQ links like Ansar al-Sharia wouldn’t have come after the American consulate if not for the provocation from the movie? Or are they claiming that AAS chose to capitalize on the outrage over the movie after news trickled out about the Cairo embassy assault earlier that day? I ask because we’re still seeing stuff like the following being pushed by the Times, weeks after the White House formally embraced the “terrorist attack” narrative:

Beyond the political issues, the [new Bin Laden] film may carry the risk of associating Mr. Obama with any backlash in a Muslim world already inflamed by the YouTube trailer for an insulting film portrayal of its prophet. In September riots erupted in Libya, Egypt and elsewhere as Muslim crowds reacted violently to what they perceived as the unforgivable insults of a scratch production, “The Innocence of Muslims,” some of which was posted on YouTube.

As recently as six days ago, State was still grasping for ways to blame the movie, which may be the one consistent thread in this entire mess. From the beginning, in the same Rose Garden remarks on September 12 in which he mentioned “acts of terror,” Obama alluded to the video’s role by saying, “We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others.” If they’re sticking with the “offended terrorist” theory of the case even now, I’d like to hear more. That must have been some video to push a group like Ansar al-Sharia from grudging tolerance of the Great Satan’s local presence to “let’s kill the ambassador” rage.

Exit quotation from Mike Rogers: “It’s about the fact that decisions were made, big policy decisions, including elevating the video that, if you listen to those email or read those emails, nothing about the video — it elevated the video and actually caused more protests across the Middle East.” Click the image to watch.

Update: Whole lotta offended terrorists in Benghazi that night, for some reason:

U.S. intelligence believes that assailants connected to al Qaeda in Iraq were among the core group that attacked the diplomatic mission in Benghazi, a U.S. government official told CNN.

That would represent the second al Qaeda affiliate associated with the deadly September 11 attack that killed U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

Previously, intelligence officials said there were signs of connections to al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, the North African wing of the terror group…

According to the official, others in the core group are suspected of having ties to the Libyan group Ansar al-Sharia, and many of them are believed to be Egyptian jihadis.

That’s three separate jihadist outfits participating. According to CNN, there were upwards of 40 attackers in the first wave. Free question for any members of the White House press corps who are reading: What’s Al Qaeda in Iraq doing in Libya?


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Bishop takes Pawn!

Lourdes on October 24, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Just because a jihadist group claims credit doesn’t make it so

I agree.
But the evidence also points to this group… So!

astonerii on October 24, 2012 at 10:11 PM

King takes Queen.

Lourdes on October 24, 2012 at 10:11 PM

“Posting something on Facebook is not in and of itself evidence”

Unless it’s critical of a Republican, and then it’s absolutely true.

malclave on October 24, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Oh, but someone makes a reference to a trailer, on Youtube, for some dumb movie by some dumb church that will probably never be released, that has been there for months, and nobody was aware of its existence before this attack, and THAT is evidence in and of itself.

Sure thing, Hills.

The Schaef on October 24, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Resign. Now.

Midas on October 24, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Yeah Hil…credibility aint what it used to be, huh?

CitizenEgg on October 24, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Mark Knoller

@markknoller

Topping the network newscasts: CBS: 24th death in meningitis outbreak; ABC: Hurricane Sandy threat; NBC: Obama interview.

JPeterman on October 24, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Clinton and Obama’s careers lie tattered and bloodied in the dust of Benghazi.

thatsafactjack on October 24, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Hillary on Benghazi: Just because a jihadist group claims credit doesn’t make it so

Bill adds,
“Right, Baby. And just because a bunch of women claim sexual harassment doesn’t make it so.”

itsnotaboutme on October 24, 2012 at 10:14 PM

After 9/11, the Democrats were all about “connecting the dots”. Today, those same asses can’t even see the paper the dots are on.

But that’s about par for the “Excuse Administration”.

GarandFan on October 24, 2012 at 10:14 PM

What a farce.

WisCon on October 24, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Of course she is correct.

faraway on October 24, 2012 at 10:16 PM

This one’s gonna haunt you forever mrs. clinton.

Tim_CA on October 24, 2012 at 10:16 PM

The Benghazi Gambit.

Knott Buyinit on October 24, 2012 at 10:17 PM

My Gawd….they are gonna gingerly and with lawyerly precision parse this out to an eventual finding of “Hey, we don’t think it really happened” aren’t they? It’s like death by a thousand cuts..And the press is just gonna say “Yup” guess so….

awful awful people with no moral compass and no redeeming value….

Tim Zank on October 24, 2012 at 10:17 PM

Just because some A-hole said you are Secretary of State..
doesn’t it make it so..

Electrongod on October 24, 2012 at 10:17 PM

Uh-huh.

They just did it for kicks. Just kiddin’.

Don’t care what anyone says, this enfeebled witch would have made an even worse President than Obama.

NoDonkey on October 24, 2012 at 10:17 PM

Just saw this on Fox — could not believe that Hillary actually chuckled during part of her statement. What the hell is funny about four dead Americans? What is wrong with these people and who in their right mind would vote for four more seconds of this, let alone four more years?!?!

natasha333 on October 24, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Posting something on Facebook is not in and of itself evidence.

On the other hand, posting something on YouTube

Jim Treacher on October 24, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Just because a jihadist group claims credit doesn’t make it so

This may be the Super-Brain-Cool-Factor that Obama and Hillary are going for: they were, ahem, ‘p0wnd’ by the, uhh, rioting mob, maybe a few jihadists among them or somewhere in town, across the desert, at least close.

I considered this on Day 1 after Benghazi. That the ploy just may be to get the Obama/Clinton posture to be one of, ohh, just following the information as it came available and, ohh, wait, looks like ‘we were misled by the jihadists’ so we, uhh, were just doing the right thing but it was the, uhhh, you know, those darn jihadists who somehow infiltrated our dream.

While, or meanwhile, grab that darn, dirty, disgusting video-maker and make him pay while we, uhh, follow the information and, umm, never heard of the jihadists but we’re sure sorry for the dirty, disgusting video. Just following along here, following the information as it becomes available and…wait…what? Stevens is deceased? When did THAT happen?

I think Obama’s and Hillary’s and the rest of their DoobieDo’ers have exhausted all means to understand their ever-shifting-fluidity on “information” and doing their jobs as security experts. Exhausted it and utterly failed at it.

Lourdes on October 24, 2012 at 10:18 PM

But it wasn’t just because a jihadist group claimed credit as there was a mounting of collaborating evidence, you lying old bat!

VorDaj on October 24, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Makes you wonder how this film maker feels that the Government made him into a high value target for every crazed Islamaterrorist in the world.

the Coondawg on October 24, 2012 at 10:18 PM

WOW! The whole thread turned RED!

thatsafactjack on October 24, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Gahhh, everything went RED. I hope it wasn’t some keyboard thing I did unawares.

Lourdes on October 24, 2012 at 10:19 PM

I’m beginning to think that Hillary is trying to sabotage Baracky.

faraway on October 24, 2012 at 10:19 PM

wow…is everthing red to anyone else?

Tim_CA on October 24, 2012 at 10:19 PM

“Posting something on Facebook is not in and of itself evidence,”

Sorry Cankles, Stevens couldn’t record the evidence on a blue dress.

burrata on October 24, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Its hard to believe shes going down with the ship. I cant stand the woman but I always thought she was more savvy than that. The Clinton Obama dynamic is strange.

ldbgcoleman on October 24, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Rhetoric? OK, maybe. ’round here we have a different word. Startswith ‘bull’ and ends with ‘sheeee-it’…

affenhauer on October 24, 2012 at 10:19 PM

I was feeling blue, and now…

faraway on October 24, 2012 at 10:19 PM

…well I guess Hill isn’t the one setting up JugEars and driving the bus…

KOOLAID2 on October 24, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Hey Hillary-

Bet you thought that being Secretary of State for this joker was going to be a sweet gig, huh?

As everyone else around this community organizer eventually realizes, it doesn’t end well for you.

Sugar Land on October 24, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Naval Air Station Sigonella, Sicily
“30 minute flight from the Libyan coast”
-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xLzHEQp94C0

diogenes on October 24, 2012 at 10:20 PM

I am willing to have them killed just for saying they did if they are Islamist and not American citizens and still keep looking over the evidence to find “other” targets as needed. You can never really be sure about things like this…

astonerii on October 24, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Someone needs to explain the lack of security. That and why they watched the attack go on for hours and did nothing.

gatsbysgirlontheside on October 24, 2012 at 10:20 PM

WOW! The whole thread turned RED!

thatsafactjack on October 24, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Thank God…thought I OD’d on my glaucoma medicine!

Tim_CA on October 24, 2012 at 10:20 PM

I blame the video for this red thread

faraway on October 24, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Has all of the text gone completely red on anyone besides me?

SWalker on October 24, 2012 at 10:20 PM

OMG!!!!!

Everything went red a little early. This isn’t supposed to happen till election day.

El_Terrible on October 24, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Red! We win!

JPeterman on October 24, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Clinton and Obama’s careers lie tattered and bloodied in the dust of Benghazi.

thatsafactjack on October 24, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Put Petraeus in a gunny sack with them and have some Navy Corpse men dump them at sea.

VorDaj on October 24, 2012 at 10:21 PM

wow…is everthing red to anyone else?

Tim_CA on October 24, 2012 at 10:19 PM

…did we all just go Republican?

KOOLAID2 on October 24, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Well this is ONE way to get our attention! Red will do it every time!

thatsafactjack on October 24, 2012 at 10:21 PM

It’s like I’m smoking Tareytons again.

rogerb on October 24, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Back to black. Time to give up the LSD?

Kraken on October 24, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Hey, Hill…

Just say what’s on your mind.

It was the racist Tea Party, obviously.

(Am I the only one that has red typeface in the comments?)

turfmann on October 24, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Why is everything red and in the headline threads as well?

Is this some sort of sign of Republican support for the election?

sharrukin on October 24, 2012 at 10:21 PM

wow…is everthing red to anyone else?

Tim_CA on October 24, 2012 at 10:19 PM

Yup What the hell happened?

katy the mean old lady on October 24, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Just saw this on Fox — could not believe that Hillary actually chuckled during part of her statement. What the hell is funny about four dead Americans? What is wrong with these people and who in their right mind would vote for four more seconds of this, let alone four more years?!?!

natasha333 on October 24, 2012 at 10:18 PM

It’s like how satan laughs at the vulnerable, weak, trusting and faithful.

http://youtu.be/gPcqy0pvdsI

Lourdes on October 24, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Mine went red. Closed out and reentered and now is back to black.

Bishop on October 24, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Back to black. Time to give up the LSD?

Kraken on October 24, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Nah, better to just add something else to the mix. Alcohol?

astonerii on October 24, 2012 at 10:22 PM

U.S. intelligence believes that assailants connected to al Qaeda in Iraq were among the core group that attacked the diplomatic mission in Benghazi

Holy Freaking Bombshell Batman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You mean that Obama’s Iraq strategy is in shambles also??????

faraway on October 24, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Posting something on Facebook is not in and of itself evidence.

On the other hand, posting something on YouTube…
Jim Treacher on October 24, 2012 at 10:18 PM

**bows**

burrata on October 24, 2012 at 10:22 PM

As I reminded you yesterday, intercepts caught members of the group talking to members of Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb during and after the attack. Libyan eyewitnesses saw the group’s founder outside the consulate while it was happening; he later admitted to having been there while insisting that he was merely directing traffic

According to the WSJ, the CIA didn’t agree that this evidence was sufficient to definitively name the attackers. Starting to remind me of right wing intelligence ‘analysis’ before the war in Iraq that temporarily turned men known to the CIA as liars and con men (like al Jananbi) into heroes of the neocons.

bayam on October 24, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Pschew, now all that RED has returned to Black. That was CLOSE.

Lourdes on October 24, 2012 at 10:22 PM

WOW! The whole thread turned RED!

thatsafactjack on October 24, 2012 at 10:18 PM

We’ve been taken over, or AP’s gone nuclear on us.

TXUS on October 24, 2012 at 10:22 PM

ok….now do burnt sienna!!!

Tim_CA on October 24, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Posting something on Facebook is not in and of itself evidence.

On the other hand, posting something on YouTube…

Jim Treacher on October 24, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Priceless…

d1carter on October 24, 2012 at 10:22 PM

@markknoller

Topping the network newscasts: CBS: 24th death in meningitis outbreak; ABC: Hurricane Sandy threat; NBC: Obama interview.

JPeterman on October 24, 2012 at 10:13 PM

On Obama’s Watch.

Obama has failed.

I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick

El_Terrible on October 24, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Keep digging, Hillary! We can still see you down there!

Jaibones on October 24, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Fade to black, once again.

TXUS on October 24, 2012 at 10:23 PM

We all are seeing red — literally and figuratively.

natasha333 on October 24, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Hillary Clinton has demonstrated that shew is unintelligent and has no positive character attributes. She is vermin, human excrement, ie, your typical elected leftist stalinite reprobate. Shy democrat rank and file worship her will elude me the rest of my topside life.

tom daschle concerned on October 24, 2012 at 10:23 PM

astonerii on October 24, 2012 at 10:20 PM

If this is true, it is treason of the highest order, and their own bodyguard would be entirely in the right to throw them into prison so hard they bounced.

…and while we’re wishing, let’s add Obama being impeached and paradropped with Moochelle into Somalia.

MelonCollie on October 24, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Wow, flailing.

Failing too. That rhymes.

thebrokenrattle on October 24, 2012 at 10:23 PM

THREE separate wings of al quaeda, and even from IRAQ?

Still, Obama and Clinton will claim, ‘just a coincidence’, no doubt.

thatsafactjack on October 24, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Free question for any members of the White House press corps who are reading: What’s Al Qaeda in Iraq doing in Libya?

Answer: Ann Romney has a horse.

Bishop on October 24, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Why is everything red and in the headline threads as well?

Is this some sort of sign of Republican support for the election?

sharrukin on October 24, 2012 at 10:21 PM

I’ve decided that the ‘turning to RED’ thing is a sign that Romney and Ryan are, indeed, going to win this Nov. 6.

Repeat after me: “every time a Republican surges, type everywhere turns to red.”

Lourdes on October 24, 2012 at 10:24 PM

tom daschle concerned on October 24, 2012 at 10:23 PM

I especially like the part with all the typos.

:/

tom daschle concerned on October 24, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Now we know why they made up the film coverup story…..

faraway on October 24, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Posting something on Facebook is not in and of itself evidence.

On the other hand, posting something on YouTube…
Jim Treacher on October 24, 2012 at 10:18 PM

**bows**

burrata on October 24, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Posting something on Facebook is not in and of itself evidence.

On the other hand, posting something on YouTube…

Jim Treacher on October 24, 2012 at 10:18 PM

Priceless…

d1carter on October 24, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Jim Treacher owns the intertubes, he just allows the rest of us to play on it while he is busy doing important stuff… ;)

SWalker on October 24, 2012 at 10:25 PM

AP only wanted to make sure everyone knew he’d just added the red UPDATE.

INC on October 24, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Just resign already.

monalisa on October 24, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Someone is playing with CSS. Oh well…

riddick on October 24, 2012 at 10:25 PM

MelonCollie on October 24, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Did you quote the right person?

astonerii on October 24, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Fade To Black – Dire Straits

Thanks, Allah. Much better.:)

thatsafactjack on October 24, 2012 at 10:25 PM

“Posting something on Facebook is not in and of itself evidence,”

Actually, it is. And, though not conclusive, it’s a damn sight more evidence than the White House had that the attack was motivated by some dumb movie.

Socratease on October 24, 2012 at 10:26 PM

She has blood on her hands and her watch because and it happened on her watch.

SparkPlug on October 24, 2012 at 10:26 PM

I remember reading somewhere that one of the films producers was on the FBI’s watch list. I do believe that is where they got the whole video thing started. Still though, this is worse than Watergate. But we have a president protected by a telfon media..

nobar on October 24, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Man she’s gorgeous.

The Fox chick.

Ben Hur on October 24, 2012 at 10:26 PM

thatsafactjack on October 24, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Is this the QOTD? If not could you direct me, I’m lost.

SparkPlug on October 24, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Posting something on Facebook is not in and of itself evidence.

On the other hand, posting something on YouTube…

Jim Treacher on October 24, 2012 at 10:18 PM

; ) Touché

Bmore on October 24, 2012 at 10:27 PM

According to the WSJ, the CIA didn’t agree that this evidence was sufficient to definitively name the attackers. Starting to remind me of right wing intelligence ‘analysis’ before the war in Iraq that temporarily turned men known to the CIA as liars and con men (like al Jananbi) into heroes of the neocons.

bayam on October 24, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Odd, it reminds me that the entire Barky administration had no problem blaring that a 13 minute YT video was to blame; they knew it to be so with enough clarity that everyone from Carney to Rice was saying it for two solid weeks.

Bishop on October 24, 2012 at 10:27 PM

In point of fact, it is evidence. Maybe it is not dispositive or sufficient to form a conclusion, but to deny that it is evidence is to vitiate the meaning of the word. Why do Dems think that they are entitled to their own facts and their own meaning to words? Because they can get away with it? The fact that Dems think that they can lie with impunity is a serious indictment of the press. And evidence of their bias.

besser tot als rot on October 24, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Fade To Black – Dire Straits

Thanks, Allah. Much better.:)

thatsafactjack on October 24, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Fade To Black – Metallica… :P

SWalker on October 24, 2012 at 10:27 PM

SparkPlug on October 24, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Minnersoter?

Bmore on October 24, 2012 at 10:28 PM

According to the WSJ, the CIA didn’t agree that this evidence was sufficient to definitively name the attackers.

bayam on October 24, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Mushrooms. Not only food, but entertainment as well…

riddick on October 24, 2012 at 10:28 PM

SparkPlug on October 24, 2012 at 10:27 PM

I’m never sure these days. We’ll have to wait and see if AllahPundit smiles on us tonight. :)

thatsafactjack on October 24, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Free question for any members of the White House press corps who are reading: What’s Al Qaeda in Iraq doing in Libya?
Answer: Ann Romney has a horse.
Bishop on October 24, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Yeah, but the next question is: does she pack a bayonet too?

affenhauer on October 24, 2012 at 10:28 PM

This one’s gonna haunt you forever mrs. clinton.

Tim_CA on October 24, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Tends to refresh the question: “who killed Vince Foster?”

Lourdes on October 24, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Good move by Hillary, this will diffuse a lot of the anger and hopefully blunt some of the more inflammatory accusations of the far right.

akaniku on October 24, 2012 at 10:28 PM

What’s Al Qaeda in Iraq doing in Libya?

Furthmore, I’d like the White House to explain how, if they thought it was due to riots in Egypt earlier in the day, they get to Benghazi so fast?

They must have hourly express shuttles flying into Benghazi: No limit on carrier on bags or RPG’s.

WisRich on October 24, 2012 at 10:28 PM

But… but… I thought that Obama got us out of Iraq and everything was hunky-dory.

Al Qaeda in Iraq is in Libya doing terror attacks…

Does this mean we need another surge in Iraq????

Did we leave too early…

If they hadn’t come up with the film cover story, we could have asked these questions in the debates, I guess. What a coincidence.

faraway on October 24, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Just because the Obama administration claims the Benghazi attack arose from an anti-video demonstration which never occurred doesn’t mean they aren’t above lying.

Basilsbest on October 24, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Bill Clinton..
White courtesy phone..

Electrongod on October 24, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Still though, this is worse than Watergate. But we have a president protected by a telfon media..

nobar on October 24, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Teflon media, teflon president, and voters with teflon ears.

It’s a wicked recipe.

MelonCollie on October 24, 2012 at 10:29 PM

I’ve decided that the ‘turning to RED’ thing is a sign that Romney and Ryan are, indeed, going to win this Nov. 6.

Lourdes on October 24, 2012 at 10:24 PM

I would be surprised if they didn’t win given the way things are moving.

sharrukin on October 24, 2012 at 10:29 PM

I still want to know what did late Amb. Stevens know and when. Vince Foster all over again…

riddick on October 24, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Exactly what qualifies for accreditation?

Seriously. Her argument is Facebook is an unqualified source.

budfox on October 24, 2012 at 10:29 PM

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