Romney wins the debate season — and the key test for a challenger; Update: Romney hits 50% in Rasmussen tracker, up 4
posted at 9:21 am on October 23, 2012 by Ed Morrissey
Allahpundit linked to National Journal’s Ron Fournier last night in his excellent roundup of the debate analysis, but it’s worth considering again the next morning after the final debate of the 2012 presidential cycle. Like many pundits after the debate, Fournier gives Barack Obama the edge on debate performance last night, but writes that Mitt Romney won the overall debate season — perhaps because Romney, unlike Obama, understood the stakes:
Mitt Romney wins. That’s not to say he won Monday night’s debate or the presidential campaign, but it’s safe to say he won an important chapter: The debate season.
With an acceptable, though far from exceptional, performance in his third and final face-off with President Obama, the former Massachusetts governor became one of the few presidential candidates to make debates matter.
Bottom line: Obama won Monday night’s debate on points, benefiting from the blessings of incumbency and hard-world experience. But the challenger held his own, and thus the state of the race is likely unchanged.
Debates between the two presidential candidates are ostensibly to force them to defend their agendas. They mainly get used to produce sound bites, zingers, and gaffes that the media hopes to use to define the race. Their real value to voters, however, is to test the presidential mettle of each man. A President is presumed to have more of it, by virtue of his four years in the office already, so the challenger has to work hard to equal or surpass his stature. Romney did that in the first debate, and in the two succeeding debates solidified his standing as a man at least Obama’s equal.
In fact, Chris Wallace wondered whether Romney was the one with the gravitas of incumbency last night:
Yeah, let me first give you my general opinion. And that was, I thought in the middle of the debate that if I had been on the desert island for the last four years and I had just been parachuted into this debate, I would have thought the guy that had turned out to be Mitt Romney was the president protecting a lead and that Barack Obama was the challenger trying, somewhat desperately to catch up.
Obama was slashing, was personal, was cutting, I thought that Romney was big-picture, seemed to have much more of an agenda for the future than the President did. I e-mailed one of his top aides in the course of the debate, and said, “What’s behind this strategy?” Clearly he was not taking the bait, not getting into fights with Barack Obama. This official said, “This is all Mitt Romney’s idea. This is how he wants to conduct this debate.”
Remember Morrissey’s Axiom on Politics and Dating? Desperation is not an aphrodisiac. Small wonder, then, that even in a PPP poll that proclaimed Obama the winner of the debate by eleven points in swing states that the net movement for both men wound up in the margin of error (+6 for Obama and +3 for Romney) — and not even among likely voters.
On substance, this was the least-relevant debate of them all. Not only are voters not really watching for substance — which they could get rather easily by watching campaign speeches, after all — but foreign policy isn’t even really on their radar at all. This economy is still all about jobs and the economy, as I point out in my column for The Week:
No matter who you think won last night’s presidential debate, it’s unlikely to have much bearing on the presidential election. In the end, voters simply don’t care about the issues of foreign policy anywhere near as much as they do about their own economic security.
That, by the way, is the norm for American presidential elections. In the last four presidential cycles, only 2004′s matchup between incumbent George W. Bush and John Kerry produced a foreign-policy issue with more mentions as “the most important problem” facing the nation among Gallup’s respondentsthan a domestic-policy issue. Not surprisingly, voters expressed considerable concern over the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, two major campaign issues in that cycle, with 23 percent listing wars as among their most pressing problems in the final month before the election. The economy in general only got mentioned by 21 percent of respondents, although 12 percent also mentioned unemployment. …
Gallup’s latest polling among American adults confirms this focus. While foreign policy may be the one arena where presidents have the most impact, it gets the least amount of concern in this cycle. This election has the largest percentage of “net economic mentions” of any of the last four cycles — even slightly higher than 2008, in the middle of the panic over the possible collapse of the financial sector (72 percent to 69 percent, respectively). Almost two-thirds of the responses came from “the economy in general” and “unemployment,” and 12 percent from the federal budget deficit. The wars, which still got 11 percent of the mentions in 2008, have now dropped to 3 percent in 2012.
These numbers do not change appreciably between men and women, either. In fact, women were slightly more likely to mention the economy and unemployment (64 percent) than men (62 percent). Health care came in a distant third for women (10 percent), while for men the federal deficit got the bronze (14 percent). Foreign policy only got mentioned by 3 percent of men and 4 percent of women overall — and in a blow to the Obama campaign’s attempt to stoke their “war on women” meme, only 1 percent of women even mentioned abortion.
This result shows how out of touch and off-key the Obama campaign has been in the final few weeks of the election. While Obama and Co. focused on Big Bird, voters worried about jobs. While Democrats obsessed about “binders,” women across the country were far more concerned with the economy.
Obama can’t win on the economy, and he can’t distract voters away from it. And in a debate on stage alone with his challenger, he can’t even come up with enough gravitas to make himself look like he already has the job. With two weeks to go, that’s a bad position for an incumbent.
Update: This obviously doesn’t include reaction to last night’s debate, but Romney hit 50% in Rasmussen’s tracking poll for the first time since early May, and now has a 4-point lead over Obama.
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Where’s brainfreeordie? He was all hot bothered by this huge Republican deception. The purfesurs students are so screwed.
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:05 PM
Divert, distract, redirect blame, admit nothing.
Next.
fogw on May 19, 2013 at 5:08 PM
Jazz:
Is this the additional story you promised in the WH word of the day thread?
They are doing this on purpose. They know if they can bog this down into interpretations of e-mails the vast majority of the public will stop paying attention.
It’s a strategy, and possibly a good one for the WH.
Difficultas_Est_Imperium on May 19, 2013 at 5:08 PM
Say anything, whatever it takes. The MSM will cover for you.
petefrt on May 19, 2013 at 5:09 PM
I wont even make a comment about Steve Hayes because he is nothing but a partisan hack. That being said Jazz, don’t tell me you are now lending credibility to Jon Karl. Same Jon Karl who is now apologizing all over the place for taking the republican doctored emails as fact? Thought you were better than that Jazz.
HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 5:12 PM
Go away HotAirNazi. Nobody cares what you think.
tetriskid on May 19, 2013 at 5:13 PM
Where are the other three days worth of emails?
Lost in Jersey on May 19, 2013 at 5:13 PM
The Law is Irrelevant…
I don’t know…
I didn’t say that…
We need to focus on preventing this in the future…not looking at the past…
Political Sideshows…
What difference does it make…
The Executive Branch is being run by 7th graders.
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 5:15 PM
Actually, by 7th grade students are taught to respect our system of government.
These criminals hate our Bill of Rights.
tetriskid on May 19, 2013 at 5:16 PM
Even I never thought they would sink this low. Of course, I also thought he was going to create jobs for blacks after paying off all the typical crooks and Democrat open hands in the last administration. Oh, well..despair.
See the old Dead Parrot skit by Monte Python and any of about 200 skits on SNL.
This technique is a straw. You know, find anything the other side did wrong (even if they didn’t) to give your minions some cover. well..look! They had that fact all wrong! Well, they are messed up!
Now let us get to important things like all the jobs we don’t have. I wonder how many blacks at his speech know what a putz this man has been for them.
It is a smaller, oblique version of the “When I am hit, I just hit back harder.” credo of Hillary Clinton as written in earlier books about her.
They hope nobody notices that no counter punch was thrown or even contemplated at the terrorists after killing the four.
IlikedAUH2O on May 19, 2013 at 5:16 PM
Keeping everything politically polarizing and blaming that politicization on the opposition to confuse the citizenry…classic mob enticement to mayhem.
These progressive hacks are playing a dangerous game here…
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 5:18 PM
Elect a person with no military background..
No executive experience..
But tons of experience at deceit and lying…
And what do you get?
President Milhous Obama.
Electrongod on May 19, 2013 at 5:18 PM
I don’t know what I was thinking. We all know what a bunch of Right wing hacks ABC news hires…
Jazz Shaw on May 19, 2013 at 5:19 PM
Anonymous Cincinnati IRS official: “Everything comes from the top.”
tetriskid on May 19, 2013 at 5:19 PM
Republicans doctoring documents?
Call Dan Rather!
I think we need a TANG style letter on where the POTUS was that night.
IlikedAUH2O on May 19, 2013 at 5:20 PM
That is why Levin is better than Rushbo.
IlikedAUH2O on May 19, 2013 at 5:21 PM
Undergoing extensive refurbishing.
VorDaj on May 19, 2013 at 5:24 PM
And Levin had been calling Obama this before the 2008 elections since using Obama’s middle name back then was…well..not polite.
Levin nailed it 5 years ago.
Electrongod on May 19, 2013 at 5:25 PM
It seems as if the trolls have gone to ground after this last week. I guess they are hoping the Sunday chat factory will give them enough coverage that they can again assert that right-wing victims of the IRS are just being oversensitive.
My take, for what it is worth. The left’s attack on tax exempt status was a huge blow for the leftists. Nothing hits home more than taxes and when you have an ideologically driven IRS that is punishing some groups and rewarding others for their views- not even a troll can call that fair or is willing to defend it.
Happy Nomad on May 19, 2013 at 5:25 PM
Yes, did anyone ask him that?
petefrt on May 19, 2013 at 5:26 PM
” As NewsBusters reported two weeks ago, CBS’s Bob Schieffer is fed up with the White House’s talking points concerning what happened at our consulate in Benghazi, Libya, last September.
His impatience continued on Sunday’s Face the Nation when Obama senior advisor Dan Pfeiffer gave stock answers to questions about the three crises facing the President leading Schieffer to first accuse his guest of taking “exactly the approach that the Nixon administration took” and finally scolding him by asking, “Why are you here today? Why isn’t the White House Chief of Staff here to tell us what happened?”
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/05/19/schieffer-obama-advisor-why-are-you-here-why-isn-t-white-house-chief#ixzz2TmBRPRKj
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 5:26 PM
The Brown Shirt speaks.
Fascists only know how to propagate lies and propaganda.
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:26 PM
It’s like there is a bank robbery and the police only get the video starting 3 days later.
VorDaj on May 19, 2013 at 5:26 PM
The Rat-Eared Bastard was giving a recital at Morehouse, isn’t that where he ‘works’ or nearby? I’m sure he would do whatever required to get into that audience. It would be like the Beatles landing at La Guardia in 1964 there.
slickwillie2001 on May 19, 2013 at 5:26 PM
But the MSM and O camp have already won this round.
Yahoo linked the article titled So Who Doctored Benghazi Emails?, and though the article did not really pointed out or proved that Republicans did, the sheep were impressed that Republicans did.
vnohara on May 19, 2013 at 5:27 PM
Thread winner.
rogerb on May 19, 2013 at 5:27 PM
**BOOM** Headshot.
Difficultas_Est_Imperium on May 19, 2013 at 5:27 PM
Steve Hayes is definitely a right wing hack who is only relevant to the fox news crowd. Jon Karl on the other hand is now a discredited journalist.
Everyone knew the republicans had more than enough time to review the emails when the administration released them a few months ago. He should have known he was being played by the republican conspiracy theorists.
HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 5:27 PM
Just like a snake.
GarandFan on May 19, 2013 at 5:27 PM
When you claim the same for the still missing three days of e-mails, I might lend you some credibility.
Difficultas_Est_Imperium on May 19, 2013 at 5:28 PM
Same reason Rice went on the Sunday TV circuit re Benghazi instead of Billary?
petefrt on May 19, 2013 at 5:30 PM
Heh…Very Old Bob scores…
“After Pfeiffer continued with evasive talking points, Schieffer again scolded:
SCHIEFFER: But Mr. Pfeiffer, and I don’t mean to be argumentative here, but the President is in charge of the executive branch of the government. It’s my, I’ll just make this as an assertion: when the executive branch does things right, there doesn’t seem to be any hesitancy of the White House to take credit for that. When Osama bin Laden was killed, the President didn’t waste any time getting out there and telling people about it.
But with all of these things, when these things happen, you seem to send out officials many times who don’t even seem to know what has happened. And I use as an example of that Susan Rice who had no connection whatsoever to the events that took place in Benghazi, and yet she was sent out, appeared on this broadcast, and other Sunday broadcasts, five days after it happens, and I’m not here to get in an argument with you about who changed which word in the talking points and all that. The bottom line is what she told the American people that day bore no resemblance to what had happened on the ground in an incident where four Americans were killed.
Pfeiffer once again stuck with the Administration line leading Schieffer to further push back:
But what I’m saying to you is that was just PR. That was just a PR plan to send out somebody who didn’t know anything about what had happened. Why did you do that? Why didn’t the Secretary of State come and tell us what they knew and if he knew nothing say, “We don’t know yet?” Why didn’t the White House Chief of Staff come out? I mean I would, and I mean this as no disrespect to you, why are you here today? Why isn’t the White House Chief of Staff here to tell us what happened?
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/05/19/schieffer-obama-advisor-why-are-you-here-why-isn-t-white-house-chief#ixzz2TmCZMUVM
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 5:31 PM
So do we know WHO ordered the stand- down yet ?
burrata on May 19, 2013 at 5:31 PM
That’s his MO. He calls everyone a right wing hack that promotes an uncomfortable truth. When Hicks testified before Congress on Benghazi he said that 3 or 4 times in a single thread about Hicks, a career State Department employee who has donated to Democratic candidates.
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:31 PM
The WH can quickly discredit them, then.
All they have to do is release all 25,000 or so e-mails relating to Benghazi and you will have your proof right out in the open.
As it is we are 24,900 some odd short.
I’m more than willing to wait for those to be released.
Are you?
ajacksonian on May 19, 2013 at 5:33 PM
The emails were not released a few months ago Mr. Brown Shirt. They were allowed to be viewed for a short period of time without cameras present. More propaganda from a fascist.
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:33 PM
Concur. I imagine that little tidbit will see a lot of play around here in the near future.
Left Coast Right Mind on May 19, 2013 at 5:33 PM
It does not mater it is out there that the e-mails where doctored even if they where not. The smear is already done and the truth can say in bed.
tjexcite on May 19, 2013 at 5:33 PM
davidk on May 19, 2013 at 5:34 PM
I expect Bob Schieffer will get audited soon…or maybe Holder will put beastie porn on his computer…
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 5:34 PM
Nixon: 18 1/2 minutes
Obama: 3 days of emails
tetriskid on May 19, 2013 at 5:34 PM
If take all the LSM at face value..
Benghazi is the new norm..
And if you question it..
You are labeled a tea bagger and may show up on some radar at the IRS.
Live and let live..
Unless they die..
Then you turn the other way and hug an Obama Thumper..
I think this about right..
Electrongod on May 19, 2013 at 5:37 PM
Of course it does…Now he needs to have the B*lls to testify under oath before congress.
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 5:38 PM
Fixed!
Now, to today’s new CNN “Poll”…
Now wipe you chin off and readjust your O’bama Kneepads. Goebbels awaits!
F-
Del Dolemonte on May 19, 2013 at 5:38 PM
Cruz missile: http://twitchy.com/2013/05/18/sen-ted-cruz-leads-call-to-abolish-irs-in-wake-of-targeting-scandal/
davidk on May 19, 2013 at 5:38 PM
Same GOP who are yet to see an event they wont politicize Jazz? Come on man… Believing this is believing Obama was actually outraged the IRS targeted those tea party fraudulent groups. A targeting strategy i am 100% for.
HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 5:39 PM
59% of the public are Republican/right wing/political hacks!
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:40 PM
God Bless Texas!
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 5:41 PM
You should be outraged that the IRS wasted so much energy on non-job producing Tea Party Groups..
Electrongod on May 19, 2013 at 5:42 PM
No. Because I don’t care what your party thinks about said emails. There is never going to be enough emails for you conspiracy theorists.
HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 5:42 PM
Man, fascists are funny. Demonstrating incredible hypocrisy and fascist tendencies in only 3 sentences.
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:43 PM
Yes, silence those who don’t agree with you and yet come here where we let you speak. You are digusting.
BeachBum on May 19, 2013 at 5:43 PM
Conspiracy theorists
right wing hacks
its like a Debbie Wasserman-Fluketalking points machine.
tom daschle concerned on May 19, 2013 at 5:44 PM
wiki, on Hayes:
Can you give us some credible, multi-sourced examples of Hayes “lying” in any of his work? Was he also a “right wing hack” for being critical of Chimpy Bush for not doing more about North Korea, or for his spending like a drunken sailor as President?
As for Karl, who exactly took away his journalistic credits? Has he been taken off the air?
F-
Del Dolemonte on May 19, 2013 at 5:44 PM
Can’t believe no one has made a “fake but accurate” joke yet.
tneloms on May 19, 2013 at 5:44 PM
Conspiracy theorists
right wing hacks
It’s like a Debbie Wasserman-Fluke talking points machine.
tom daschle concerned on May 19, 2013 at 5:45 PM
Nixon: 18 1/2 minutes
Obama: 2400 emails and 3 days of Teleconferences between Benghazi,State,WH,DOD,CIA,DOJ and 4 dead,unknown injured.
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 5:45 PM
Good to know the Democrat party supports “separate but equal” as they always have.
The Bull Connor / George Wallace Democrat party is back.
They don’t support equal protection under the law.
tetriskid on May 19, 2013 at 5:45 PM
And going on and on about how Republicans politicize everything while he supports the politicizing of an entire government agency.
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:45 PM
I commented when I heard Pfieffer say it this morning that he was lying. They (Ø administration) really expect to get away with it, feel entitled to lie as usual and have the media cover it up for them. Nobody in the real world likes Mean Girls.
ExpressoBold on May 19, 2013 at 5:46 PM
http://www.bookwormroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Obama-the-Marines-and-an-umbrella.jpg
davidk on May 19, 2013 at 5:46 PM
HAL is definitely off his meds today.
kingsjester on May 19, 2013 at 5:47 PM
He’s not off his meds, he’s a straight up fascist. Just be glad he is too cowardly to act on his own.
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:50 PM
1. Bush paid the Supreme Court to make him President.
2. Bush knew about 9/11 in advance and let it happen, so he and Cheney could invade Iraq for its oil.
3. Bush would use the Iraq War as an excuse to postpone, or completely call off, the 2004 election.
4. Bush would use the Democrat-created 2007 mortgage meltdown as an excuse to postpone, or completely call off, the 2008 election.
5. F-
Del Dolemonte on May 19, 2013 at 5:50 PM
Or maybe truth is exceeding their effective limit.
Time will tell just how far these several scandals go, how deep and far-ranging they are. Who knows what else might be uncovered in other agencies?
Liam on May 19, 2013 at 5:50 PM
LOL! Really? Not any more.
bgibbs1000 on May 19, 2013 at 5:51 PM
No one in Congress had the emails nor could they have ‘doctored’ them. The White House permitted members of various Congressional committee to review the emails.
If anyone had had the emails, there would have been NO reason for people like David Axelrod to call for their release.
BOTTOM LINE:
Hillary Clinton was told at 8:00 PM on 09.11.12 by those on the ground that there had never been a protest about ANYTHING and the attack was a terrorist attack.
Both The CIA station chief in Libya and Beth Jones, acting assistant secretary for Near Eastern affairs at the State Department, said on 09.12.12 that it WAS a terrorist attack by AQ, the AQ-affiliated group, Ansar al-Sharia, and that no video protest occurred whatsoever.
09.12.12 @04:07 (09.11.12 @10:07 PM EST): Secretary Clinton issued a statement acknowledging the death of one State Dept. officer, Sean Smith, and blames Internet video for violence. It included:
09.13.12: Carney blamed Internet video for violence.
09.14.12: Carney: No advance warning of attack. No evidence that the attack was preplanned.
Lie. They were warned by the Libyan mission, Ambassador Stevens, and the CIA.
09.15.12: Obama blames video for violence in his weekly radio address.
09.16.12: Ambassador Susan Rice appears on 5 Sunday news shows and blames the video. One example from ABC News’ ‘This Week With George Stephanopoulis’:
Lie.
On Face the Nation:
Lie. Yes, they did.
09.18.12: Carney again blames video for violence.
Untrue.
09.20.12: Obama again blames video for violence at townhall event broadcast on Univision:
09.21 .12: Obama and Clinton appear in ads on Pakistani television condemning the YouTube video at a cost of $70,000.
09.24.12: On ‘The View,’ Obama says investigation ongoing, again blames video.
09.25.12: Obama speech to UN blames video, refers to video 6 times, terror only once relative to Iran.
10.18.12: Obama:
Lie.
11.28.12: Carney says that the ONLY change that the White House and State Department made to talking points was to change ‘consulate’ to ‘diplomatic mission.”
Lie.
Resist We Much on May 19, 2013 at 5:51 PM
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:50 PM
Even after he attacked me on the Media thread, I was trying to be nice. By the way, nice work with the Kos reject on the other thread.
kingsjester on May 19, 2013 at 5:53 PM
Does have thread have to be fumigated now?
BLECH
gophergirl on May 19, 2013 at 5:53 PM
I have no known party.
I have floated no conspiracy theories.
I have grave suspicions about what went on in Benghazi based upon personnel, weapons gone missing, weapons transfers, Amb. Stevens’ foreign contacts, and the relatively low key CIA and MI-6 operations that were going on there at the time. There is much that cannot be explained and those e-mails play only a part in filling in the picture.
Human nature puts the WH in a defensive position to put out anything exonerating first so as to try and minimize the scandal. Less than 100 e-mails does not explain the problems in any of the time lines floated by the WH as they do not correspond with events on the ground as reported by multiple sources at the time and since then.
You may believe as you will.
I will wait for facts and examine the time line on my own and see if it makes any sense to me in any context partisan or non-partisan. Often no single party holds the actual information as to what exactly happened, and the picture must be built up from multiple sources and deconflicted. That takes time and until a much larger set of e-mails the WH is only prolonging the inevitable. The WH would look much, much better now to just release the mass of e-mails and say that they are what they are.
If you are right that would show up partisan hacks in clear and stark light.
If I am right it will paint a much more complete picture of the time line of events and sort out what happened, why it happened and how it transpired beyond the attack event and give broader insight into the affairs of Libya and the Middle East. I don’t want any Administration to EVER make this sort of mistake again as it costs lives of good people. I am sorry all you can do is attack others even those just willing to wait to see what the truth actually is without the need for belief.
ajacksonian on May 19, 2013 at 5:54 PM
Thank you.
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:55 PM
I don’t smell that bad.
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 5:55 PM
No, little fascist. You are for PROFILING.
Resist We Much on May 19, 2013 at 5:57 PM
You and I know there is never going to be enough emails. He has given you all he wants to give you. Anything outside of what he has provided is just feeding into the right wing playbook.
Take it or leave it GOP. Better, continue whining about irrelevant emails while Americans focus on better things that help improve their lives.
HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 5:57 PM
LMFAO! That’s kind of the point moron. The president serves us, not the other way round. Release all the damn emails.
From Del above:
NotCoach on May 19, 2013 at 6:00 PM
Why don’t you just STFU, after all that’s what you want Us to do.
BeachBum on May 19, 2013 at 6:00 PM
By Wednesday it will be: “Stevens isn’t actually dead, you reichwing freaks, he’s just taking a very long nap!”
Your day is coming, liberal fascist trash, you would be wise to prepare.
Bishop on May 19, 2013 at 6:01 PM
And, that only means he has something to hide. If he didn’t, he’d release everything and shut those dastardly Republicans up.
Resist We Much on May 19, 2013 at 6:01 PM
Christopher Stevens’s life isn’t better. He and the other dead Americans deserve the truth.
Good Solid B-Plus on May 19, 2013 at 6:01 PM
lolol. The “I will crawl over broken glass to vote for loser Romney;but hey I am still an independent librarian” chick speaketh.
HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 6:01 PM
No. Because I don’t care what your party thinks about said emails. There is never going to be enough emails for you conspiracy theorists.
HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 5:42 PM
“But it was alright, everything was alright, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.” – Orwell, 1984
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 6:01 PM
EBTs and Dead Americans..
A winning plan.
Electrongod on May 19, 2013 at 6:02 PM
Way past time for HA commenters to extend the same courtesy to the partisan hack who posted this.
de rigueur on May 19, 2013 at 6:02 PM
Once again, today’s CNN “poll” shows that Americans are now paying attention to this Fake Scandal:
Keep your getalife in the sand, HAL.
Del Dolemonte on May 19, 2013 at 6:03 PM
I said that I would crawl over broken glass to vote AGAINST Obama.
Resist We Much on May 19, 2013 at 6:03 PM
Too bad the only thing your party can do about it is continue singing the same song to the conspiracy right wingers and also holding votes to repeal Obamacare.
HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 6:04 PM
Resist We Much on May 19, 2013 at 6:04 PM
“The masses never revolt of their own accord, and they never revolt merely because they are oppressed. Indeed, so long as they are not permitted to have standards of comparison, they never even become aware that they are oppressed.” – Orwell, 1984
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 6:06 PM
What will your limp talking points be if all of the e-mails are legally subpoenaed? Will your Dear Leader be Above the Law then too?
(Starts Sundial #247)
Del Dolemonte on May 19, 2013 at 6:06 PM
So is
” depraved indifference to 4 human lives ”
a crime for which someone can be prosecuted ?
If yes, what are we waiting for ?
burrata on May 19, 2013 at 6:06 PM
Hold on now, we still don’t know who might have helped the Boston Hat Bombers.
Bishop on May 19, 2013 at 6:07 PM
You are the one whining about paying for the Obamaphones and EBTs you know. Crazy thing is you continue paying for them even though you hate them so much. Must really hurt.
HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 6:07 PM
Edited for accuracy.
Del Dolemonte on May 19, 2013 at 6:08 PM
How far and deep do these scandals go? Trust me as much as I can when I say, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet! :)
You should know that ‘being nice’ doesn’t work on arrogant, merciless, and hypocritical people like Shallow HAL…
Anti-Control on May 19, 2013 at 6:09 PM
Makes a person feel all warm and safe reading something like this.
Bishop on May 19, 2013 at 6:09 PM
Dr. Obama’s new practice.
profitsbeard on May 19, 2013 at 6:09 PM
I honestly think it’s too stupid to even know what a subpoena is.
If the teevee tells it that Mr. Obama says it’s bad it must be bad so it yells.
That is the level of “thing” we are dealing with.
These things don’t believe in laws or history.
Only their god Obama.
tetriskid on May 19, 2013 at 6:09 PM
Weird. I didn’t know the Independent-libertarian party had control over any branch of government.
You’re such a little fascist, princess.
Resist We Much on May 19, 2013 at 6:09 PM
“Don’t you see the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the language of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible because there will be no words in which to express it” – Orwell, 1984
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 6:10 PM
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