Reuters: White House, State Dep’t received e-mails within two hours of Benghazi attack about jihadi group taking credit

posted at 11:21 pm on October 23, 2012 by Allahpundit

No Quotes of the Day tonight. Read this instead.

We actually know most of this already, I think. Remember this Reuters story from October 2 describing multiple intelligence reports about a jihadi connection even in the first few hours afterward? How about the AP’s piece four days ago about the CIA’s station chief informing the White House within 24 hours that militants might be involved? The White House had plenty of reason to suspect more was going on than a protest that got out of hand, even from the very beginning. But that would meddle with one of O’s strongest reelection narratives, i.e. the president who demolished Al Qaeda (read this for a stark illustration of how certain key supporters are helping him out with that), so we didn’t hear about it until Eli Lake and CNN and Reuters all but dragged it out of him.

What we didn’t know until now is that the White House Situation Room got a heads up on whodunnit early enough that Chris Stevens may well have still been alive at the time.

The emails, obtained by Reuters from government sources not connected with U.S. spy agencies or the State Department and who requested anonymity, specifically mention that the Libyan group called Ansar al-Sharia had asserted responsibility for the attacks…

A third email, also marked SBU and sent at 6:07 p.m. Washington time, carried the subject line: “Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack.”

The message reported: “Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli.”

While some information identifying recipients of this message was redacted from copies of the messages obtained by Reuters, a government source said that one of the addresses to which the message was sent was the White House Situation Room, the president’s secure command post.

Carney mentioned afterwards that “extremists” might have been involved in the, ahem, spontaneous protest, but he didn’t name Ansar al-Sharia or suggest that U.S. intelligence had a particular group in mind. Which is curious, because the e-mails pointing to the group’s Twitter/Facebook claims weren’t the White House’s only piece of evidence against them. Eli Lake reported three weeks ago that American spies captured communications between Ansar al-Sharia and the local Al Qaeda affiliate after the attack.

More from Fox News:

Ansar al Sharia has been declared by the State Department to be a an Al Qaeda-affiliated group. A member of the group suspected of participating in the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi has been arrested and is being held in Tunisia…

Fox News was told that an estimated 300 to 400 national security figures received these emails in real time almost as the raid was playing out and concluding. People who received these emails work directly under the nation’s top national security, military and diplomatic officials, Fox News was told.

If I understand the White House’s Benghazi narrative in its current form, it boils down to this. There was no protest, but the attack was still kinda sorta spontaneous insofar as it was inspired by what was happening at the embassy in Cairo. And it wasn’t an official Al Qaeda or Ansar al-Sharia operation, even though members of AQIM and Ansar al-Sharia — including the founder of the latter group — were on the scene and/or participating. Essentially, the White House wants you to believe that members of two prominent jihadist paramilitary groups were kicking around on September 11 when one of them turned on the TV, heard about the Mohammed movie from coverage of the Egyptian embassy assault, and decided to quickly pull together a complex, heavily-armed attack on the local U.S. consulate involving 20 or so people. Never mind that there had been harassment of, and attacks on, western interests in the city for months; these guys apparently had no serious designs on Chris Stevens or his compatriots until they heard about the YouTube video and hulked out in the form of an organized armed raid. The only thing that makes this story plausible is that security for Stevens at the compound was so disgracefully poor that hardened jihadis probably could have drawn up a play in the dirt outside the building and gotten to the ambassador. That’s Obama’s defense here, essentially — that the consulate was so easily breached thanks to threadbare protection for Stevens that it’s quite possible the whole thing was put together by amateurs, without planning.

Update: Patterico e-mails with a good catch about the Fox News excerpt quoted above. It’s Ansar al-Sharia in Yemen that’s been designated by State as an Al Qaeda affiliate, not Ansar al-Sharia in Libya. There are, in fact, multiple Ansar al-Sharias in Libya; I wrote a bit about that here. Al Qaeda HQ in Pakistan has evidently been using that name as an alias for some of its affiliates. The Benghazi group may or may not be one of them, but given their contacts with AQIM after the attack as described above, it’s probably a matter of time before State designates them an official AQ affiliate too.


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GUMBO-BISHOP!

Lanceman on October 23, 2012 at 11:22 PM

Praise Allah! I was about all commented out on J.E.’s thread and I wasn’t about to comment on that dang Trump Allred thread. Praise be to Allah! ; )

Bmore on October 23, 2012 at 11:22 PM

so unlike Willard you are not letting this story go ay allah?

DBear on October 23, 2012 at 11:22 PM

It was a video! Read the newspaper!

Lanceman on October 23, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Surprise!

Jackalope on October 23, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Canopher!!

Electrongod on October 23, 2012 at 11:24 PM

I really want to know WHO started the stupid video story. That guy was perp-walked out of his house and sits in jail. Meanwhile, this was the case all along.

Jackalope on October 23, 2012 at 11:24 PM

No Quotes of the Day tonight.

**breaks out in cold sweat…

no…QOTD?

ok, i think i’ll make it./

ted c on October 23, 2012 at 11:24 PM

I’m shocked! Shocked!

rpjkw11 on October 23, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Okay, but while I’m reading all this, do the same rules apply to this thread as QOTD Allah?

Bmore on October 23, 2012 at 11:25 PM

I hope the door smacks his fanny hard on the way out

GaMikey on October 23, 2012 at 11:25 PM

So this is the QOTD thread…I can live with that.

Jackalope on October 23, 2012 at 11:25 PM

O]ne of the addresses to which the message was sent was the White House Situation Room

Jay Carney: I personally know 3 whorehouses named “The Situation Room”……

ted c on October 23, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Bishop, looks like I was half wrong.

Bmore on October 23, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Well sure, who doesn’t have a mortar tube or two leaning up against the garage fridge just waiting for a reason to use it, those dudes were just upset that’s all.

Bishop on October 23, 2012 at 11:25 PM

So what exactly will be done about all of this? Will there be more hearings before the House? Will Susan Rice or anyone else from the administration be asked to testify under oath? Or are Republicans just waiting another 14 days and hoping Obama gets voted out of office so he can be replaced with a C-in-C who isn’t a liar and coverup artist?

Doughboy on October 23, 2012 at 11:26 PM

Reuters: White House, State Dep’t received e-mails within two hours of Benghazi attack about jihadi group taking credit

Obama two hours…

Was desperate to tell us he loved us.

Fluck Off Obama
We have BiteMe

Electrongod on October 23, 2012 at 11:26 PM

Do these effers in the White House think that sh!t arrives via Pony Express? I mean c’mon, we’ve got this email thing, it types the text, it rubs the lotion on itself, it hits “send” and BAM! ya get the email….it’s that quick.

ted c on October 23, 2012 at 11:27 PM

BINDERS…

… or something.

/

Seven Percent Solution on October 23, 2012 at 11:27 PM

So what exactly will be done about all of this? Will there be more hearings before the House? Will Susan Rice or anyone else from the administration be asked to testify under oath? Or are Republicans just waiting another 14 days and hoping Obama gets voted out of office so he can be replaced with a C-in-C who isn’t a liar and coverup artist?

Doughboy on October 23, 2012 at 11:26 PM

I want hearings to find out where this video crap came from

Jackalope on October 23, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Is that they email they forwarded to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs to tell him to get Youtube on the horn and stop the video?

pedestrian on October 23, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Bishop…..

Electrongod on October 23, 2012 at 11:28 PM

*********So,I’m wondering***************

Is AP putting together,feverishly at this moment,
the Libyian E-Mail Debackle,for QOTD!

Jus sayin!

canopfor on October 23, 2012 at 11:04 PM

canopfor on October 23, 2012 at 11:28 PM

I see what you’ve done here Allah. Its a troll slayer. They will never read this. Too many facts, too many links. Nice job, well played. ; )

Bmore on October 23, 2012 at 11:28 PM

Who was the leaker of these emails…?

d1carter on October 23, 2012 at 11:28 PM

“[O]ne of the addresses to which the message was sent was the White House Situation Room…”

OK. Now we know why the LongLegged MackDaddy didn’t know anything about it.

davidk on October 23, 2012 at 11:28 PM

Yeah, you’re missing something.

The public could not care less about that issue.

gumbyandpokey on October 23, 2012 at 11:07 PM

JPeterman on October 23, 2012 at 11:28 PM

The Left/MSM will still be harping on womyn’s issues

Jackalope on October 23, 2012 at 11:29 PM

DBear on October 23, 2012 at 11:22 PM

Hey! Where’ve you been? Douching yourself?

wargamer6 on October 23, 2012 at 11:29 PM

TWO auto-play video ads with audio on the same page, neither of which are even displaying a pause button. Moar pleaz!!!!!

29Victor on October 23, 2012 at 11:29 PM

Greta had Palin and Bolton on discussing this. I hope the videos get posted.

idesign on October 23, 2012 at 11:29 PM

This is the work,of HilRods Vast RightWing Conspiracy Cabal,
to make Hopey look like an idiot!
(snark).

canopfor on October 23, 2012 at 11:29 PM

What we didn’t know until now is that the White House Situation Room got a heads up on whodunnit early enough that Chris Stevens may well have still been alive at the time.

Ok, you astute hotairheads will realize that Chris Stevens is Barack Obama’s Mary Jo Kopechne……

say it with me now……

Chris Stevens is Barack Obama’s Mary Jo Kopechne…..

Teddy watched the car sink….swam away….waited several hours…..lied…..while she suffocated in the Olds.

same thing happened to Ambassador Stevens.

ted c on October 23, 2012 at 11:29 PM

Jay Carney: I personally know 3 whorehouses named “The Situation Room”……

ted c on October 23, 2012 at 11:25 PM

ROTFL! Don’t make me laugh so hard after I sneaked so much cheese from the fridge!

nitzsche on October 23, 2012 at 11:30 PM

Good thing there is no distraction happening tomorrow, like more Trump buffoonery for instance, to give the MSM the cover they need to ignore this.

Mark1971 on October 23, 2012 at 11:30 PM

TWO auto-play video ads with audio on the same page, neither of which are even displaying a pause button. Moar pleaz!!!!!

29Victor on October 23, 2012 at 11:29 PM

THIS!!!!111 Seriously? Anybody tech savvy out there know how to disable this?

Jackalope on October 23, 2012 at 11:30 PM

DBear on October 23, 2012 at 11:22 PM

liberal

jaime on October 23, 2012 at 11:30 PM

I really want to know WHO started the stupid video story. …..

Jackalope on October 23, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Seriously??

Can you say axelgrease?

litebeam1 on October 23, 2012 at 11:30 PM

…yet another Presentdunce…waving his finger at us… and LYING!

KOOLAID2 on October 23, 2012 at 11:31 PM

Gonna be a very chilly January 20th for 0. He will need these covers.

Bmore on October 23, 2012 at 11:31 PM

Jackalope on October 23, 2012 at 11:30 PM

Stop using IE.

wargamer6 on October 23, 2012 at 11:31 PM

This is despicable. Obama is a lying sack that needs a nice cell in Canyon City.

WAFL!

katy on October 23, 2012 at 11:31 PM

Chris Stevens is Barack Obama’s Mary Jo Kopechne…..

ted c on October 23, 2012 at 11:29 PM

Yeah. That sure wrecked his Senate career, didn’t it?

Lanceman on October 23, 2012 at 11:31 PM

We won’t get this unraveled before election day, but at least it is out there. Let’s hope that it isn’t lost in the “fog of election war”. Americans died. We deserve answers.

KCB on October 23, 2012 at 11:31 PM

The New York Times is preparing a page 20 story as we speak.

Mark1971 on October 23, 2012 at 11:31 PM

There was no protest, but the attack was still kinda sorta spontaneous insofar as it was inspired by what was happening at the embassy in Cairo.

By that logic, a demonstration in Ontario ought to spark one in Buffalo….right? I mean, there has got to be Frenchies in Buffalo, right/?

ted c on October 23, 2012 at 11:31 PM

Mark1971 on October 23, 2012 at 11:30 PM

Oy. There is a story that team Mitt turned away a cocaine story from BHO’s classmate. Why would Trump think this is a good idea?

Jackalope on October 23, 2012 at 11:31 PM

Benghazi: SBU

DUN! DUN!

Christien on October 23, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Correction! THREE auto-play video ads with audio on one page.

What’s even the point of that? Wouldn’t the advertisers be a little upset to know their annoying ad can’t be heard over the other annoying ads?

29Victor on October 23, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Fox News was told that an estimated 300 to 400 national security figures received these emails in real time almost as the raid was playing out and concluding. People who received these emails work directly under the nation’s top national security, military and diplomatic officials, Fox News was told.

With that many people being copied on those e-mails, there is no way on earth that anyone in the WH administration who spoke publicly about this didn’t know they were lying.

INC on October 23, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Obama went to sleep, and then to Las Vegas the next morning.

His foreign policy is in flames, either which way you wish to take “flames”.

He talks about Big Bird, folders/binders, Romnesia and other minor topic to fool the fools.

In front of you is an underdeveloped narcissistic teenager who’s been caught with his pants down.

Last night he looked/acted defensive and beaten because the land dares to have found him out.

Out of desperation he’ll have a few neighborhoods bombed in Benghazi but it won’t work. There will be civilian casualties and it will backfire on him, as it should. Anything he will do/say from now on will be political, to save his own skin.

Matthews, you Gd fool and fooled, it’s not racism. It’s reality.

Wake up America. Obama is with the muzzies and against you.

Schadenfreude on October 23, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Yeah. That sure wrecked his Senate career, didn’t it?

Lanceman on October 23, 2012 at 11:31 PM

nope, but it sure wrecked Mary Jo’s…..!

ted c on October 23, 2012 at 11:32 PM

liberal

jaime on October 23, 2012 at 11:30 PM

Lol! Straight factual and to the point. Schweet. I saw your comment to me after I left last evening. Just wanted you to know I had.

Bmore on October 23, 2012 at 11:32 PM

This is the work,of HilRods Vast RightWing Conspiracy Cabal

canopfor on October 23, 2012 at 11:29 PM

That reminds me – I need to pay my cabal TV bill…

Lanceman on October 23, 2012 at 11:32 PM

This makes me ill.

Two more damn weeks.

MTF on October 23, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Here is something that I don’t get!

1….the attack went on for 4 to 5 hours

2…..the US had a Drone watching this!

For the love of Pete,couldn’t any US Military Asset be called in!!

The US Ballistic Subs,carry conventional warheads,that can strike
any part of the planet within,less than 1 hour!

canopfor on October 23, 2012 at 11:33 PM

I actually see this as a turning point for the media. I expect a blistering attack by the media against Obama. This is their chance to absolve themselves of their guilt for the fraud of a man they defended for years. If the media is smart, they will use this as a chance to show the public the are still relevant.

portlandon on October 23, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Bmore on October 23, 2012 at 11:31 PM

I had the same thought. Means to mitigate any actual repercussions for the Lightbringer once he’s out of office. I think his new nickname should be ‘Muddy Water’.

thatsafactjack on October 23, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Maybe this is why Romney never pressed the issue last night.

He knew this was coming.

katy on October 23, 2012 at 11:33 PM

litebeam1 on October 23, 2012 at 11:30 PM

I use Safari

Jackalope on October 23, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Oh, okay. I get it… It’s Clinton’s “No President could have..” defense…

No president could have defended the consulate .

No president could have turned the economy.

Got it.

socalcon on October 23, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Hooked, reeled in, creeled, next to gutting.

Bmore on October 23, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Correction! THREE auto-play video ads with audio on one page.

What’s even the point of that? Wouldn’t the advertisers be a little upset to know their annoying ad can’t be heard over the other annoying ads?

29Victor on October 23, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Firefox with the ad-block plus is your friend.

Or the mute button.

JPeterman on October 23, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Why was ambassador Stevens in Benghazi on 9/11 when the MO is to stay put at the embassies, in the most secure spot on days like that?

He had just returned from Germany/Switzerland and Austria?

What was he doing in Benghazi? Why was he lured there? By whom?…knowing the lack of security?

May the media combust from dereliction of duty, most all of them.

Schadenfreude on October 23, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Jay Carney: I personally know 3 whorehouses named “The Situation Room”……

ted c on October 23, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Obama’s White House… CNN… and Barney Frank’s apartment? Not sure on the 3rd.

malclave on October 23, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Yeah. That sure wrecked his Senate career, didn’t it?

Lanceman on October 23, 2012 at 11:31 PM

Unlike Teddy Kennedy, Obama doesn’t have a big Joe Kennedy family and an aura of Camelot around him to keep his ass out of a jam.

ted c on October 23, 2012 at 11:34 PM

That’s Obama’s defense here, essentially — that the consulate was so easily breached thanks to threadbare protection for Stevens that it’s quite possible the whole thing was put together by amateurs, without planning.

And who’s fault was it that there was threadbare protection for Amb. Stevens?

Cindy Munford on October 23, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Schadenfreude on October 23, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Yet he will get 45 – 50% of the vote.

Lanceman on October 23, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Hillary and Petraeus are complete fools for covering up for Obama. May they pay the ultimate prices for it. They are enabling an idiot and are thus more moronic than he is.

Schadenfreude on October 23, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Schadenfreude on October 23, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Not ‘lured’… ordered in.

thatsafactjack on October 23, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Yet he will get 45 – 50% of the vote.

Lanceman on October 23, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Stupid relataively free people always deserve their ‘leaders’.

Schadenfreude on October 23, 2012 at 11:35 PM

I can’t help but think “What if this were Bush?”

What if Bush had been informed of security risks in Benghazi and did nothing?

What if Bush had been informed 2 hours after the attack that it was a jihadi group?

What if Bush went to a campaign fundraiser instead of assessing the situation and assuring the nation on the attack?

What if Bush went 2 months without a press conference on the attack?

What if Bush and the people of his administration repeatedly LIED about the reason for the attack, targeting a private citizen as a scapegoat instead of admitting it was a radical Islamic group that planned the whole thing?

The worst part is that I think I know the answer, he would have been tarred feathered and thrown out of the capitol.

Instead we have Obama saying that he deserves four more years.

He has turned the office into a disgrace. This should finish him…but the LSM would never let it happen. What a terrible time we live in people.

NerwenAldarion on October 23, 2012 at 11:35 PM

I think his new nickname should be ‘Muddy Water’.

thatsafactjack on October 23, 2012 at 11:33 PM

He wishes he was one one millionth as good as Muddy. Lol! Good evening to you Jackie!

Bmore on October 23, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Maybe this is why Romney never pressed the issue last night.

He knew this was coming.

katy on October 23, 2012 at 11:33 PM

heh. He didn’t want to be nearby when the grenade went off. No wonder Big O, the One, The Myth, The Legend was so peevish about it last week.

ted c on October 23, 2012 at 11:35 PM

That’s Obama’s defense here, essentially — that the consulate was so easily breached thanks to threadbare protection for Stevens that it’s quite possible the whole thing was put together by amateurs, without planning.

Sick, isn’t it?

jaime on October 23, 2012 at 11:36 PM

What if this is info Trump got a hold of?

nitzsche on October 23, 2012 at 11:36 PM

Unlike Teddy Kennedy, Obama doesn’t have a big Joe Kennedy family and an aura of Camelot around him to keep his ass out of a jam.

ted c on October 23, 2012 at 11:34 PM

May I introduce you to the media, pop culture and Hollywood?

Lanceman on October 23, 2012 at 11:36 PM

One of these days, a 4 star is going to blow his lid and spill the beans on all of this.

That’s when O gets dragged out of his lush Hawaii villa and thrown in the brink!

katy on October 23, 2012 at 11:36 PM

Hey! Where’ve you been? Douching yourself?

wargamer6 on October 23, 2012 at 11:29 PM

busy working then phone-banking Nevada & Colorado for Obama, of course!

oh just sent in my ballot too.. Obama, Feinstein and Pelosi FTW!!!

DBear on October 23, 2012 at 11:36 PM

No mushroom cloud?

Vigilante on October 23, 2012 at 11:37 PM

THIS!!!!111 Seriously? Anybody tech savvy out there know how to disable this?

Jackalope on October 23, 2012 at 11:30 PM

Google “do not track plus”. That’s what I downloaded on my macbook and it works.

AubieJon on October 23, 2012 at 11:37 PM

29Victor on October 23, 2012 at 11:32 PM

This.

Bmore on October 23, 2012 at 11:37 PM

Bmore on October 23, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Good evening, B! Very nice to see you. :)

thatsafactjack on October 23, 2012 at 11:37 PM

Here is the Program:

Conventional Prompt Global Strike and
Long-Range Ballistic Missiles: Background
and Issues
***********

Summary

Prompt global strike (PGS) would allow the United States to strike targets anywhere on Earth
with conventional weapons in as little as an hour
*************************************************

This capability may bolster U.S. efforts to deter
and defeat adversaries by allowing the United States to attack high-value targets or “fleeting
targets” at the start of or during a conflict. Congress has generally supported the PGS mission, but
it has restricted funding and suggested some changes in funding for specific programs.
Many analysts believe that the United States should use long-range ballistic missiles armed with
conventional warheads for the PGS mission. These weapons would not substitute for nuclear
weapons in the U.S. war plan but would, instead, provide a “niche” capability, with a small
number of weapons directed against select, critical targets, which might expand the range of U.S.
conventional options. Some analysts, however, have raised concerns about the possibility that
U.S. adversaries might misinterpret the launch of a missile with conventional warheads and
conclude that the missiles carry nuclear weapons. DOD is considering a number of systems that
might provide the United States with long-range strike capabilities.
============

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/nuke/R41464.pdf

canopfor on October 23, 2012 at 11:37 PM

DBear on October 23, 2012 at 11:36 PM

Obamaphone!

wargamer6 on October 23, 2012 at 11:38 PM

Hooked, reeled in, creeled, next to gutting.

Bmore on October 23, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Nice usage of creel as a verb. Never see that.

Mark1971 on October 23, 2012 at 11:38 PM

Okay, but while I’m reading all this, do the same rules apply to this thread as QOTD Allah?

Bmore on October 23, 2012 at 11:25 PM
Tomorrow will be 6 YEARS since I made my first comment, Y’all can do whatevs you want-just because.

annoyinglittletwerp on October 23, 2012 at 11:38 PM

Jackalope on October 23, 2012 at 11:30 PM

Same thing. This.

Bmore on October 23, 2012 at 11:38 PM

Jackalope on October 23, 2012 at 11:24 PM

How about the poor sucker sitting in jail over it!!!

Cindy Munford on October 23, 2012 at 11:39 PM

ted c on October 23, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Mitt figured the shock of the news would convict him much better than he alone could.

katy on October 23, 2012 at 11:39 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on October 23, 2012 at 11:38 PM

Thank you alt. ; )

Bmore on October 23, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Flora Duh on October 23, 2012 at 11:37 PM

I love John Bolton. Courageous and smart.

thatsafactjack on October 23, 2012 at 11:39 PM

But…but…but Barry says that the Muslim world loves us. Barry wouldn’t lie to us, would he?

Chrissy Matthews believes him. According to Matthews, EVERYONE believes him.

GarandFan on October 23, 2012 at 11:40 PM

I use Safari

Jackalope on October 23, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Firefox for me…

litebeam1 on October 23, 2012 at 11:40 PM

Maybe this is why Romney never pressed the issue last night.

He knew this was coming.

katy

Yup. Mitt got a days worth of news cycle talking about him taking the high road and appearing presidential instead of all the post debate chatter being about mean Mitt bullying poor Zero on Benghazi. Mitt knew this was coming so he didnt have to be the “bad guy” for the press to attack. Brilliant.

GaMikey on October 23, 2012 at 11:40 PM

FAR WORSE than Watergate.

Christien on October 23, 2012 at 11:40 PM

Mark1971 on October 23, 2012 at 11:38 PM

Probably should have checked usage first. lol! How you been?

Bmore on October 23, 2012 at 11:40 PM

I love John Bolton. Courageous and smart.
thatsafactjack on October 23, 2012 at 11:39 PM

And sexy.

Rusty Allen on October 23, 2012 at 11:40 PM

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