Messina, Axelrod: Disregard these pesky rumors that we’re giving up on North Carolina, etc

posted at 2:41 pm on October 23, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

There’s been plenty of speculatin’ about whether or not Team Obama is pulling away from North Carolina and reinvesting their precious resources in more viably attainable swing states, as it’s looking more and more like the time is nigh to cede the territory’s fifteen electoral votes to Team Romney. Allahpundit already took note of this last night, but ICYMI, adviser to pro-Obama super PAC Paul Begala got pretty candid on CNN yesterday and admitted that all signs point to the Obama campaign indeed shifting their focus elsewhere.

Not all of the president’s devotees, however, are quite so willing to admit defeat in one of Obama’s well-touted prima ballerinas of normally-presidentially-red states that the great wave of Hopenchange managed to turn momentarily blue in 2008. In a conference call with reporters Tuesday, Obama campaign manager Jim Messina and adviser David Axelrod together resisted the oh-so-unfathomable claim that they’d ever be so pragmatic as to actually cut their losses — because such losses couldn’t possibly exist, per WaPo:

“I’ve heard a lot of gossip about which states campaigns are staying in or leaving,” Messina said. “We are tied or ahead in every battleground state, and we’re not leaving any state where we’re tied or ahead.”

… Asked specifically about North Carolina, Messina said the ground operation remains “huge,” and he noted that the youth vote is bigger in North Carolina than four years ago — and than in other swing states.

“I do think there’s a bit of mythology being spun up on the other side about some of these states and North Carolina is one of them,” Axelrod said. “Anybody who thinks these states are in the bag is half in the bag themselves.”

I suppose Messina is the expert, or something, but it’s pretty remarkable the difference just a few short weeks can make. Gone is the Team Obama swagger of yesteryear — seems like they’ve officially entered cagey defense-mode, whereas Team Romney is poised and ready to take full advantage of newfound opportunities, via the NYT:

With a last aggressive debate performance behind him and 14 grueling days ahead, President Obama is now facing what he worked so hard to avoid: a neck-and-neck race with a challenger gaining ground when it matters most. …

“For the first time in this race, I’d rather be us than them,” said Senator Marco Rubio, Republican of Florida, crediting Mr. Romney’s strength in the first debate as a critical shift in the campaign. “They spent months building him up as one thing and one night he disproved it.” …

Mr. Obama will spend the next two weeks pitting the campaign machinery he built to push his voters to the polls against Mr. Romney’s sense of momentum and new signs of hope in states that were tilting away from him only a month ago.

A lot can still happen in two weeks, but if the summation of the “campaign machinery” Obama built amounts to warning voters about “Romnesia,” I’d wager the Republican optimism has ample reason to continue.


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How ya doin’, Virginny! We’re in it to win it!

- Stupid Joe

OhEssYouCowboys on October 23, 2012 at 2:44 PM

A website is not a campaign.

Oil Can on October 23, 2012 at 2:44 PM

UGH! Why use that picture of Laura Prepon’s male doppelganger?

Doughboy on October 23, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Spinning like tops.

Bitter Clinger on October 23, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Wouldn’t that be more like the man not behind the curtain?

NotCoach on October 23, 2012 at 2:45 PM

In the dictionary, the word “creepy” has Messina’s photo next to it for illustration.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on October 23, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Can Obama find one male spokesman that doesn’t look like he moonlights for NAMBLA?

Chuck Schick on October 23, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Messina…that guy gives me the creeps. I mean, there’s a face for radio if there ever was one.

Meric1837 on October 23, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Could Obama have found anyone more whiter than that effeminate ghost of a “man”, Messina?

My Lord…..is there anyone more creepy looking than this guy?

Opposite Day on October 23, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Whoa, Messina is one creepy dude! *shudder*

Valkyriepundit on October 23, 2012 at 2:48 PM

A lot can still happen in two weeks, but if the summation of the “campaign machinery” Obama built amounts to warning voters about “Romnesia,” I’d wager the Republican optimism has ample reason to continue.

Team rat-ears has more than “Romnesia.” They also have a glossy brochure.

Happy Nomad on October 23, 2012 at 2:49 PM

A man claiming to be a close pal to President Obama during college made contact with Republican operatives recently, ready to go public with claims that Obama used and sold cocaine in college, RadarOnline.com is reporting exclusively.

The operatives tried to spread the story through the media and the Romney campaign, a source close to the situation told Radar.

Operatives close to the Romney campaign were contacted and rejected the information, the source told Radar.

“They didn’t want anything to do with it,” the source said. “They thought it was not anything they wanted to be associated with or anything their candidate would want to be associated with.”

J_Crater on October 23, 2012 at 2:49 PM

What is that stinking smell? Oh yeah, desperation.

Mirimichi on October 23, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Flop sweat.

portlandon on October 23, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Why does HA have to put up those pics of Messina?

MeatHeadinCA on October 23, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Ohmygoodness….the comments! Just a great way to spend lunch….laughing! Good thing it is only the dog sending quizzical glances my way!

ABO/B2012

herm2416 on October 23, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Messina…that guy gives me the creeps. I mean, there’s a face for radio if there ever was one.

Meric1837 on October 23, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Couple that with Axelgrease as Hitler’s long lost son and you’ve got a campaign full of ugly.

Bitter Clinger on October 23, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Messina is a PEDOPHILE who is very familiar with the youth vote in North Carolina.
He’s been “exploring” the yoot vote in many states for years.

dirtengineer on October 23, 2012 at 2:52 PM

That guy looks like he’s still suffering from an atomic wedgie received in middle school.

CurtZHP on October 23, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Team O should bail on FL too. If you look at the early vote numbers, that one is out of reach.

newtopia on October 23, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Of course they’re not going to publicly concede anything.

changer1701 on October 23, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Team O should bail on FL too. If you look at the early vote numbers, that one is out of reach.

newtopia on October 23, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Link?

changer1701 on October 23, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Yup.

Meric1837 on October 23, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Get the h**l out of my state.

And good riddance, too.

Spannerhead on October 23, 2012 at 2:54 PM

YIKES that screen cap.

gophergirl on October 23, 2012 at 2:56 PM

“For the first time in this race, I’d rather be us than them,” said Senator Marco Rubio, Republican of Florida.

So here is where Senator Rubio and I will have to disagree.

Win, lose, or draw, there has never been a time when I would have rather been them.

Lily on October 23, 2012 at 2:57 PM

RE: that coke story….I heard that Trump has the goods on OB as the dealer and Gloria Alred as a big user…..or something

dirtengineer on October 23, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Could Obama have found anyone more whiter than that effeminate ghost of a “man”, Messina?

My Lord…..is there anyone more creepy looking than this guy?

Opposite Day on October 23, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Yes. David Axelrod.

parteagirl on October 23, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Messina is an “expert” alright – here he is being an “expert” last night …

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV?id={BDF17779-7EC0-47F1-95BD-EC7F1BC1D163}&title=Obama-Campaign-We-Dont-Have-Bayonets

Pork-Chop on October 23, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Has anyone actually refuted the North Carolina data from early voting? None of the sites that look at polls has done so yet. The Kos Kidz are getting excited about the early voting numbers, I wish someone knowledgeable would comment on the numbers they are presenting. I’m getting nervous about it.

SAZMD on October 23, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Wow that dude is creepy looking.

Midas on October 23, 2012 at 3:00 PM

OT: What’s up with Breitbart.com? They’ve been down since last night. Sabotage?

parteagirl on October 23, 2012 at 3:00 PM

(let’s try that again …)

Messina is an “expert” alright – here he is being an “expert” last night …

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/10/23/Obama-Campaign-We-Dont-Have-Bayonets

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV?id={BDF17779-7EC0-47F1-95BD-EC7F1BC1D163}&title=Obama-Campaign-We-Dont-Have-Bayonets

Pork-Chop on October 23, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Pork-Chop on October 23, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Why is there a picture of Howdy Doody on this thread?

JPeterman on October 23, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Please keep spending money in NC…I’m sure you can turn it around.

HumpBot Salvation on October 23, 2012 at 3:02 PM

HITLER YOUTH REPORTING IN.

ToddPA on October 23, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Kenny Loggins’ stock keeps rising /

22044 on October 23, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Did he write North Carolina on his hands?

mwbri on October 23, 2012 at 3:02 PM

RE: that coke story….I heard that Trump has the goods on OB as the dealer and Gloria Alred as a big user…..or something

dirtengineer on October 23, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Ha ! The Daily Double.
About as good as anything Obama folks can come up with.

Jabberwock on October 23, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Has anyone actually refuted the North Carolina data from early voting? None of the sites that look at polls has done so yet. The Kos Kidz are getting excited about the early voting numbers, I wish someone knowledgeable would comment on the numbers they are presenting. I’m getting nervous about it.

SAZMD on October 23, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Relax. NC is NOT going for Barky again.

Bitter Clinger on October 23, 2012 at 3:03 PM

SAZMD on October 23, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Is that the “1600 early ballots from voters ID’d who’d have to be more than 110 years old”? list of stuff?

That’s the kind of stuff that has me worried.

Midas on October 23, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Can Obama find one male spokesman that doesn’t look like he moonlights for NAMBLA?

Chuck Schick on October 23, 2012 at 2:46 PM

+10

Still LMAO

txdoc on October 23, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Whatever became of that ‘october surprise’ that was supposed to explode yesterday, btw?

Midas on October 23, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Wow that dude is creepy looking.

Midas on October 23, 2012 at 3:00 PM

I know, bizarrely effeminate…

jimver on October 23, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Whatever became of that ‘october surprise’ that was supposed to explode yesterday, btw?

Midas on October 23, 2012 at 3:05 PM

It was a Rick-roll.

JPeterman on October 23, 2012 at 3:06 PM

Wow. He gives strange-looking Liberals a bad name.

The Obama Campaign will be in continuous self-destruct mode until 2 weeks from today.

I’m lovin’ it.

kingsjester on October 23, 2012 at 3:07 PM

“They didn’t want anything to do with it,” the source said. “They thought it was not anything they wanted to be associated with or anything their candidate would want to be associated with.”

J_Crater on October 23, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Well played! The story is still out there but not through the Romney campaign. And does anybody doubt that the rat-eared wonder was selling drugs at one point in his pathetic life? By his own admission he spent the last two years of HS stoned out of his mind (good thing that affirmative action sets the bar for college low).

Happy Nomad on October 23, 2012 at 3:10 PM

“I’ve heard a lot of gossip about which states campaigns are staying in or leaving,” Messina said. “We are tied or ahead in every battleground state, and we’re not leaving any state where we’re tied or ahead.”

I am convinced that these delusional fools really believe this crap… There is not a single rational honest person in the Obama campaign that is willing to know or hear the truth about their coming defeat on November 6 2012…

mnjg on October 23, 2012 at 3:10 PM

I hope that was a red Popsicle that Messina sucked on instead of …

Hummer53 on October 23, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Team O should bail on FL too. If you look at the early vote numbers, that one is out of reach.

newtopia on October 23, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Let them waste their time and money chasing after NC and FL, so they’ll have less resources to defend OH, and we can go after CO, WI, IA, and NH.

Even according to the RCP averages, which include some old pre-debate polls with Democrat-heavy samples, Romney is leading in CO, and within 2% in OH, IA, and NH, and within 3% in WI and NV. If Romney can hold on to VA and CO, he can win the Presidency by winning either Ohio alone or Wisconsin and one other state.

As Reince Priebus pointed out to Greta after the debate, the Democrats are out of money, but the RNC has plenty of money left for their ground game, to apply to the swing states what they did in Wisconsin. Since Priebus and Paul Ryan are both from Wisconsin, they might be able to pull off for Romney what they did for Scott Walker…

Incidentally, RealClearPolitics recently removed Missouri from its list of “swing states” (Romney +10) and replaced it with Minnesota, where a recent poll showed Obama leading by only 5%. Not even Ronaldus Maximus could win Minnesota in 1984!

Steve Z on October 23, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Messina looks like a pudgy, effeminate Conan O’Brien.

UltimateBob on October 23, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Buffalo Bill in Silence of the Lambs comes to mind

gracie on October 23, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Whatever became of that ‘october surprise’ that was supposed to explode yesterday, btw?

Midas on October 23, 2012 at 3:05 PM

It was a Rick-roll.

JPeterman on October 23, 2012 at 3:06 PM

I wonder if Donald Trump’s “big announcement” about 0bama next week is going to be pretty much the same thing.

UltimateBob on October 23, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Why does HA have to put up those pics of Messina?

MeatHeadinCA on October 23, 2012 at 2:51 PM

To remind people who look like Igor it could be worse.

kim roy on October 23, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Lol! AxelFraud is such a joke! These clowns actually think they have a shred of credibility! Even their own, Obama jihadi media, doesn’t believe a word they say. They just follow along out of Ideological unity! The last 2 wks of this campaign will be ugly with the chicago thug machine, but it will be nothing compared to the Mess, these Criminals are creating with a Soros owned co. “Miscounting” overseas/Military votes. The New Black Panthers Racist Intimidate Whitey Brigades standing out front of Polling places as ordered by Eric WithHolder and the Hoards of Democrat, Deceased and Multiple Voters! The Obama Regime, along with the Cheer Leading of the Obama Jihadi media will be trying to tie up the courts and cause riots after the Nov.6th election. This is the standard Alinsky play book. Get ready and get used to the idea. Protect yourselves and your families but, do not get on offense, as this is what the revolutionaries are hoping for!
Update on:How to take on the Obama Jihadi media & Win: http://paratisiusa.blogspot.com/2012/09/an-open-letter-to-those-who-should-know.html?spref=tw

God Bless America!

paratisi on October 23, 2012 at 3:21 PM

I wonder if Donald Trump’s “big announcement” about 0bama next week is going to be pretty much the same thing.

UltimateBob on October 23, 2012 at 3:16 PM

The Donald will be announcing that King Obama will be a contestant this year on Celebrity Apprentice since he’s going to be unemployed.

JPeterman on October 23, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Even according to the RCP averages, which include some old pre-debate polls with Democrat-heavy samples, Romney is leading in CO, and within 2% in OH, IA, and NH, and within 3% in WI and NV. If Romney can hold on to VA and CO, he can win the Presidency by winning either Ohio alone or Wisconsin and one other state.

Steve Z on October 23, 2012 at 3:11 PM

I think it’s over. It’s over in Florida. It’s over in north Carolina. It’s over in Virginia. It’s over in Iowa. It’s over in Colorado.

And I think it’s over in Ohio.

All to Romney, all by at least 3%.

It’s over. Obama floated the “Michelle and I will be OK.” and the campaign floated the “We can win without Ohio” balloons. It’s over and they know it.

Obama has to get D+9 or D+10 to tie Ohio with current splits.

oldroy on October 23, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Messina, Axelrod: Disregard these pesky rumors that we’re giving up on North Carolina, etc.

“Pay no attention to the man behind the dick!”

Archivarix on October 23, 2012 at 3:24 PM

I wonder if Donald Trump’s “big announcement” about 0bama next week is going to be pretty much the same thing.

UltimateBob on October 23, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Trump will announce that Obama used to deal crack, and Obama will gain a good 3-5% in the national polls from the Ron Paul/Gary “Gary Johnson” Johnson crowd. Let’s face it – people relate to the guy. If Romney was an effective campaigner, he’d pre-empt Obama by mentioning offhandedly that he almost OD’d on heroin once in the 90′s and woke up the next day underneath Courtney Love in a pool of his own vomit and urine during his next stump speech. He could at least show up at a campaign rally riding a Harley with a naked chick airbrushed on to the fuel tank, but he won’t do any of the that because he doesn’t understand how to connect with the average American.

akaniku on October 23, 2012 at 3:25 PM

The Donald will be announcing that King Obama will be a contestant this year on Celebrity Apprentice since he’s going to be unemployed.

JPeterman on October 23, 2012 at 3:22 PM

That would be sweet. I might actually have to watch it just to watch 0bama get fired again.

UltimateBob on October 23, 2012 at 3:29 PM

So, in all seriousness, O thinks he still has a chance in NC? Let me take a breath before I comment on this one. Ahem.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!
TEEHEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEE!!
*snorts*
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
*momentary silence*
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

As an NC native, that is my own personal take of O’s connection to reality, as well.

Turtle317 on October 23, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Has anyone checked recently to see if Jim Messina even still resides in the same dimension everyone else is in?

pilamaye on October 23, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Two weeks is an eternity, but we don’t REALLY have two weeks left in the campaign.

If 25% of the population is undecided or persuadable in late September, by mid October that number is down to ten, and by late October you’re down to five.

Not only that, but because of early voting any last minute surprises have a blunted effect. Let me put it to you this way, the Bush DUI revelations revealed late in the 2000 race, is considered one of the most effective October Surprises in recent history.

It cost Bush about 2-3% of his support. Yeah, even the most effective October Surprises wasn’t particularly effective.

This was at a time when early voting was non-existent, outside of absentee voting that is. Now a very large fraction of voting is done well before election day, and while this may not make up the bulk of the potentially persuadable voters, it never the less greatly reduces the potential impact of any October surprises.

This, is why the Obama campaign threw every bit of dirt and filth they had at Romney, BEFORE early voting started. They knew that late surprises wouldn’t have the effect they once had, so they tried to put it all on the table before any voting started.

So, no, I really don’t think Obama really HAS two weeks left. Anything that happens in the final week probably isn’t going to make much of a difference. So if the Obama campaign wants to turn things around, they’ve gotta do something now.

WolvenOne on October 23, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Messina said the ground operation remains “huge,” and he noted that the youth vote is bigger in North Carolina than four years ago — and than in other swing states.

Yes, but they aren’t voting for Obama. How’s that Perdue around your neck helping with the voting?

LoganSix on October 23, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Intrade Odds 58.0 42.0

Intrade had Romney stuck in the 30s for months. Now, that the wall has been breached, he is starting to move.

Resist We Much on October 23, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Oh, I see, the Obamuh campaign big boys aren’t conceding anything except that Obamuh has booked the isolated fortress of McCormick Place in Chicago for his election night concession speech, so this is all for show, to throw off the potentially rioting masses.

stukinIL4now on October 23, 2012 at 3:57 PM

That dude is creepy looking.

Bishop on October 23, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Trump will announce that Obama used to deal crack, and Obama will gain a good 3-5% in the national polls from the Ron Paul/Gary “Gary Johnson” Johnson crowd. Let’s face it – people relate to the guy. If Romney was an effective campaigner, he’d pre-empt Obama by mentioning offhandedly that he almost OD’d on heroin once in the 90′s and woke up the next day underneath Courtney Love in a pool of his own vomit and urine during his next stump speech. He could at least show up at a campaign rally riding a Harley with a naked chick airbrushed on to the fuel tank, but he won’t do any of the that because he doesn’t understand how to connect with the average American.

akaniku on October 23, 2012 at 3:25 PM

The sad thing is that you really aren’t all that far off on this one.

*walks away rending garment*

kim roy on October 23, 2012 at 4:23 PM

When leftists deny, you know it is true.

jukin3 on October 23, 2012 at 4:26 PM

I live in NC & trust me on this one, Joey. Zero won by only 0.3% in 2008. Romney will win by 8 points, MINIMUM. You can take it to the bank. Bet the house.

crowmangler on October 23, 2012 at 4:27 PM

Messina looks like a pudgy, effeminate Conan O’Brien.

UltimateBob on October 23, 2012 at 3:14 PM

In bright red lipstick.

‘shudder’

iurockhead on October 23, 2012 at 4:37 PM

Is it just me, or does Messina look like one of those guys who lurks in the park waiting to expose himself to children? Dude creeps me out.

College Prof on October 23, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Looking at Jim Messina hurts my eyes. I know it’s not nice to say, but it’s true.

disa on October 23, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Intrade Odds 58.0 42.0

Intrade had Romney stuck in the 30s for months. Now, that the wall has been breached, he is starting to move.

Resist We Much on October 23, 2012 at 3:48 PM

57-43 now.

Wonder if the Dow Jones losing about 500 points in less than a week has anything to do with it?

Dr. ZhivBlago on October 23, 2012 at 5:41 PM

I pray this is true. Please, O-bots, keep blowing money in places you have no prayer in. Every dollar spent in NC is money not being spent in OH.

Red Cloud on October 23, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Is it just me, or does Messina look like one of those guys who lurks in the park waiting to expose himself to children? Dude creeps me out.

College Prof on October 23, 2012 at 5:32 PM

I really hope he’s teh ghey ’cause I wouldn’t want some poor woman to have to wake up to that in the morning.

Nutstuyu on October 23, 2012 at 6:37 PM

he doesn’t understand how to connect with the average American.

akaniku on October 23, 2012 at 3:25 PM

And the guy who went to the best private schools and floated through Ivy League colleges, makes $5 million on a ghost-written book, and will get a nearly $200k pension for life does relate to the average American?

Nutstuyu on October 23, 2012 at 6:43 PM

I hope that was a red Popsicle that Messina sucked on instead of …

Hummer53 on October 23, 2012 at 3:11 PM

If I had to guess, I’d say it was more light brown like the rest of Teh Won’s skin.

Nutstuyu on October 23, 2012 at 6:45 PM

I miss the days when Jim Messina was the name of a musician.

Bigfoot on October 23, 2012 at 6:45 PM

Step back for a moment and consider the Democrat party as if for the first time. Imagine a political party with enormous influence and wealth, and with complete access to every corner of the media and entertainment worlds, and to most of the country’s billionaires.

Now imagine just such a party putting these people, unscripted, in front of cameras to represent the party’s interests:

David Axelrod
Jim Messina
Debbie Wasserman-Schitz
Crazy Nancy Pelosi
Joe Biden
Stephanie Cutter
Charlie Rangel
Jesse Jackson Sr and Jr
Al Sharpton
Stuffy Gibbs

I can only conclude that they think you are really, really stupid.

Jaibones on October 23, 2012 at 7:43 PM

And the guy who went to the best private schools and floated through Ivy League colleges, makes $5 million on a ghost-written book, and will get a nearly $200k pension for life does relate to the average American?

Nutstuyu on October 23, 2012 at 6:43 PM

Well Obama earned that, it wasn’t given to him by his father. If it was, his brother wouldn’t be starving. Obama fought his way to the top.

akaniku on October 23, 2012 at 8:02 PM

IS the cover photo Messina? The Oatmeal could not have drawn him more perfectly.

321mdl on October 24, 2012 at 12:43 AM

lol Drudge group links.

Romney, Ryan draw massive crowds in Colorado…

GOP moves into Wisconsin…

Tickets still available for Obama’s Fla stop…

hawkdriver on October 24, 2012 at 9:49 AM