Wrap up: The third debate; Update: Insta-polls coming in

posted at 11:02 pm on October 22, 2012 by Allahpundit

The nearly universal consensus on Twitter is that Romney won by holding his own, which is all a challenger needs to do in a foreign-policy debate. After watching him talk about international affairs for 90 minutes, does he seem like a guy you’d trust with the button? If yes, then mission accomplished.

Doesn’t matter who won the battle, says Ron Fournier. What matters is who won the war:

Mitt Romney wins. That’s not to say he won Monday night’s debate or the presidential campaign, but it’s safe to say he won an important chapter: The debate season…

There are ample reasons for both Obama and Romney to feel optimistic about their chances Nov. 6. But through his own steady performances and a spectacular first-debate failure by the incumbent, Romney has cleared an important hurdle: A near-decisive number of Americans believe that he is a viable alternative to Obama, an incumbent saddled with a weak economy and a pessimistic national mood.

Another point made more than once in the national tweet scrum tonight was that it sometimes felt like Romney was the incumbent and Obama the angry, occasionally snide challenger. That’s a byproduct, I’m sure, of Team Mitt rehearsing very carefully to capture the sort of tone that Murphy mentioned above. Romney wanted to show the audience not just that he understands Afghanistan, Syria, and Iran, but that he’s unflappable even in a tense situation. Obama wasn’t facing that test so he could afford to be more aggressive, if only to impress his base. Because he was playing offense, I’ll bet that he wins the insta-polls. But that won’t matter; the bottom line is that Romney’s still on track. Stand by for updates.

Update: To see what I mean by snide, here’s O telling Romney that the 1980s called and asked for their foreign policy back. Which is an old enough gag that I think it actually does date to the 1980s.

Update: No surprise:

Waiting for CNN’s poll and, maybe, some focus group video.

Update: A curious lack of curiosity:

Soledad O’Brien was just interviewing the CNN undecided voter focus group. She asked them (quoting from memory): “How many of you changed your mind based upon tonight’s debate.” A whole bunch of hands went up. But — and this is not a joke — O’Brien refused to ask them who they’d would vote for because voting is a “private matter.”

I’m not making this up.

Update: Hearing on Twitter that CNN’s insta-poll has Obama winning 48/40. O won the insta-poll after the second debate by a nearly identical margin, and yet the Mitt-mentum continued. Meanwhile, for what it’s worth, Mark Halperin calls it a flat tie.

Update: A more significant poll result, maybe:

Update: Say, what happened to the Benghazi tonight?

Update: Another key data point:

Update: George Will celebrates the triumph of anti-interventionists:

Update: Not much of a “win” for O, was it?


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Mary Katharine Ham @mkhammer
RT @ppppolls: Swing state voters say Obama won the debate 53-42, and are planning to vote for him 51-45

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Thanks for your input.

ghostwriter on October 22, 2012 at 11:14 PM

I don’t think the prevent defense used by Romney worked. You at least have to look like you’re trying, which is where Obama struggled in debate #1. But let’s see what the snap polls say.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Considering how prescient you’ve been so far.

I cannot wait for election night. Heck, I can’t wait for the polls in the next few days to show no change in the race and Romney still getting his a** kicked in the battleground states.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Bishop on October 22, 2012 at 11:14 PM

He “won” the second debate, too. How did that work out for ya? Still waiting for that big, second debate bounce.

Resist We Much on October 22, 2012 at 11:13 PM

Atomic dud.

NotCoach on October 22, 2012 at 11:14 PM

There is no way Obama won this debate, regardless of MSM “Insta-polls” scoreboard

jp on October 22, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Romney shook up his etchasketch self and whored himself to the middle again, and none of you are objective enough to call him out on it.

Obama held his own and won the debate.

Dave Rywall on October 22, 2012 at 11:08 PM

I can’t wait to see the big, huge, impressive bounce that 0 gets out of this unprecedented victory! LOL They’re already calling out the big 0 on his lies from this debate.

cynccook on October 22, 2012 at 11:14 PM

I will go back to my Gumbo racket tomorrow.

Right now, a bowl of cornflakes.

Lanceman on October 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Just admit Obama owned him tonight. Will Allah post how many times Romney agreed with Obama

HotAirLib on October 22, 2012 at 11:10 PM

You were watching a different program than I was. I was watching the debate. What were you watching?

Corporal Tunnel on October 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM

By Wednesday every single moment of this debate will be forgotten. Impact on the race, none.

From this point forward the most important aspect is each campaign’s GOTV apparatus.

PackerBronco on October 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Romney shook up his etchasketch self and whored himself to the middle again, and none of you are objective enough to call him out on it.

Obama held his own and won the debate.

Dave Rywall on October 22, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Just to be clear, Mitt is an extremist because he “whores himself to the middle?”

MeatHeadinCA on October 22, 2012 at 11:11 PM
——-

I didn’t say he’s an extremist.

I’m saying he took a bunch of pathetic/obvious steps to the middle tonight because he/your party doesn’t have the balls to stand firm on its supposed foreign policy ideals and values that it’s been spewing for the past year.

Dave Rywall on October 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM

CNN says 48-40 for Obama.

vegconservative on October 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM

MSNBC are having a pile of diapers and Depends carried out already.

Matthews called us all “racists”, no kidding.

Schadenfreude on October 22, 2012 at 11:13 PM

See, I don’t need snap polls to tell me who won. MSNBC tells me who really won. Their deflation will seep out over the next few days and depress their viewers. It will also travel further into other realms such as WaPo, Daily Beast, etc.

Resist We Much on October 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM

How did we not end up talking about Mexico, Fast & Furious, illegal immigration, etc.?!?

cynccook on October 22, 2012 at 11:06 PM

That’s exactly what I was wondering throughout the debate.

jaime on October 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM

The GOPe will send a cat w/ a weak bladder to your house to pi$$ all over your stuff! :)

22044 on October 22, 2012 at 11:09 PM

I’m glad I didn’t stay up for that.

cozmo on October 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Romney wanted to show the audience not just that he understands Afghanistan, Syria, and Iran, but that he’s unflappable even in a tense situation. Obama wasn’t facing that test so he could afford to be more aggressive

But Obama was facing that test. He has clearly been flapped lately. He failed the flap test again.

This may be decisive.

forest on October 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Schadenfreude on October 22, 2012 at 11:13 PM

It’s all he has. I picture him in the nursing home, strapped to a wheel chair, calling everyone ‘raaaacists!’

thatsafactjack on October 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM

omney’s worst answer was by far his first set of answers on Libya. We need to spend more money on foreign aid to the middle east? Really? Educational development and gender equality? That’s your plan? Last I checked, Pakistan was more than happy to cash our check and give Osama bin Laden luxury accomodations.

That, plus saying that we can’t kill our way out of the middle east (which, to lift a phrase from Obama 2008, yes we can) was embarassing. He recovered after that and was clearly more comfortable talking about economic issues.

Romney’s best answer was going after Obama on his apology tour, as well as pulling back on the missile defense shield in Eastern Europe. He missed the opportunity to score points on Israel’s borders, the Falklands, and Honduras.

Stoic Patriot on October 22, 2012 at 11:10 PM

I agree. That’s why I was anyone but Romney or RuPaul in the primary.

Romney is a moderate so a stupid wishy washy response like that is to be expected.

Don’t get me wrong I want nothing more then for Romney to win but it would’ve been nice to have a conservative with a backbone up there!

LevinFan on October 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Dave Rywall on October 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Ron Paul lost. Get over it.

Corporal Tunnel on October 22, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Okay….This big….?ah ah, ah, ah, this big? Ah, ah, ah, ahhhhha… …

sandee on October 22, 2012 at 11:16 PM

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Didn’t you say that Obama would have a huge bounce from the jobs report?

Didn’t you say that Obama would have a bounce from the Biden debate?

Didn’t you say that Obama would have a bounce from the 2nd debate?

Didn’t you say that Gallup would be favoring Obama today?

wargamer6 on October 22, 2012 at 11:16 PM

0 could not move mitt one iota, while himself getting lost in his own demagoguery

runner on October 22, 2012 at 11:16 PM

After the last debate (debate # 2) the media had “flash polls” that showed Obama winning. However, the polls (biased as they are) continue to show Romney increasing his lead.

The media will probably continue to manipulate the polls to show Obama winning, but the proof will be on November 6 with the size of the Romney landslide.

jaime on October 22, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Philip Klein @philipaklein
CNN post debate poll Obama wins 48-40.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 11:16 PM

For a guy who drew oohs and ahs about his nuanced understanding of everything, Obama has amazingly little understanding of Romney’s positions as evidenced by the misquotes of Romney’s positions. From my perspective, it got really tiresome.

parke on October 22, 2012 at 11:16 PM

How did he ever lose to McCain?

they lie on October 22, 2012 at 11:10 PM

McCain-Huckabee alliance.

thebrokenrattle on October 22, 2012 at 11:17 PM

CNN says 48-40 for Obama.

vegconservative on October 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Not. Nearly. Enough.

Time to start the next battle – agitating to put the right people in President Romney’s cabinet. People we can trust.

KingGold on October 22, 2012 at 11:17 PM

CNN says 48-40 for Obama.

vegconservative on October 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM

RV’s not LV’s.

gophergirl on October 22, 2012 at 11:17 PM

I didn’t say he’s an extremist.

I’m saying he took a bunch of pathetic/obvious steps to the middle tonight because he/your party doesn’t have the balls to stand firm on its supposed foreign policy ideals and values that it’s been spewing for the past year.

Dave Rywall on October 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Why didn’t Obama have the balls to tell the truth about the fact that he did want to leave troops in Iraq?

Why did he lie about Romney’s position on the auto bailout, i.e., he DID write that the government should issue guarantees?

Why did he lie about outsourcing when he has done the same and his old saw was debunked by the WP?

Why did he lie about the sequestration?

Resist We Much on October 22, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Well if nothing else, at least we both learned what they call those ships that go under water.

verbaluce on October 22, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Ship’s do not go underwater.

SWalker on October 22, 2012 at 11:17 PM

22044 on October 22, 2012 at 11:13 PM

Good deal..I enjoyed it..:)

Dire Straits on October 22, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Obama came in to this debate looking for a fight. He wanted to be aggressive so that he could bring some momentum back to his campaign. Romney refused to oblige him thereby taking that opportunity away from him. Though a lot of people were complaining that Romney should be more aggressive, he didn’t rise to the bait and provide that spark.

bandutski on October 22, 2012 at 11:12 PM

I think Romney had a plan and he stuck to it. He wanted to look calm and well versed on the issues. He was not going to duke it out with Obama. He knew Obama wanted that fight. Romney is about winning the election,

Terrye on October 22, 2012 at 11:18 PM

CBS News

@CBSNews

BREAKING: CBS NEWS INSTANT POLL Who won the #Debate? OBAMA: 53%; ROMNEY: 23%, TIE: 24% (Margin of Error: 4%; Sample Size: 521)

And I’m calling bulls!t.

JPeterman on October 22, 2012 at 11:18 PM

How did he ever lose to McCain?

they lie on October 22, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Huckabee ran interference in Bible Belt states during the primary for McCain.

Corporal Tunnel on October 22, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Philip Klein @philipaklein
CNN post debate poll Obama wins 48-40.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Still waiting for that big Obama second-debate bounce.

Resist We Much on October 22, 2012 at 11:18 PM

HEY GUMBY:

Didn’t you say that Obama would have a huge bounce from the jobs report?

Didn’t you say that Obama would have a bounce from the Biden debate?

Didn’t you say that Obama would have a bounce from the 2nd debate?

Didn’t you say that Gallup would be favoring Obama today?

Why should anyone believe what you predict? Even a broken clock is more right then you.

wargamer6 on October 22, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Corporal Tunnel on October 22, 2012 at 11:16 PM

How dare you say that! Ron Paul ”08!! Ron Paul ”12!!

GW_SS-Delta on October 22, 2012 at 11:18 PM

I hope Preibus, the RNC, and others make and ad with Obama “our nation, Me…”

He’s such a tiny little king, in his own big emtpy head.

Schadenfreude on October 22, 2012 at 11:13 PM

You don’t think they’ll go with an ad trumpeting the new “Peaceful World’ Mitt?
I guess McGovern was on his mind tonight.
I knew Romney had moved to the center, but jeesh…
But I know you still love him….no matter what.

verbaluce on October 22, 2012 at 11:18 PM

I don’t think the prevent defense used by Romney worked. You at least have to look like you’re trying, which is where Obama struggled in debate #1. But let’s see what the snap polls say.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Considering your past prognostications, I am truly worried.

Neutron bomb!

NotCoach on October 22, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Just in case it’s not known generally, people in the Navy call submarines BOATS. The word SHIP is for larger vessels.

Pythagoras on October 22, 2012 at 11:18 PM

And I’m calling bulls!t.

JPeterman on October 22, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Sample size: 521

LOL!

Resist We Much on October 22, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Calling it a night. Home stretch here we come.

gophergirl on October 22, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Ship’s do not go underwater.

SWalker on October 22, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Only when Obama scuttles them.

jaime on October 22, 2012 at 11:19 PM

How did he ever lose to McCain?

they lie on October 22, 2012 at 11:10 PM

McCain-Huckabee alliance.

thebrokenrattle on October 22, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Yep, but 2008 was gonna’ be 0bama any way. The better candidate is in a position to make some needed fundamental changes in 2012.

cozmo on October 22, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Romney held his own and looked Presidential. Obama looked desperate. Since foreign policy is not the main issue voters are going to make a decision on who to vote for, but the economy, I think Romney was smart to focus on the economy as much as he did. You will note that Obama first brought the debate back to the economy. Maybe it’s because he knows he is weak and tried to shore it up but he has such a miserable record, I don’t know how he thought he could win on the issue. Obama did nothing to fire up his base or to sway any undecideds. Romney fired up the base by giving them a winning 3 debate performance.

How did he ever lose to McCain?

they lie on October 22, 2012 at 11:10 PM

There was a severe economic crisis and J Mac was a foreign policy guy in 2008. McCain wasn’t an economics guy, Romney is. Romney is quite good at being a CEO. Notice that Romney’s “risky” VP pick turned out a heck of a lot better than McCain’s. I’m sure Ryan’s happy with the rollout and the fact that his career ambitions are in tact.

Illinidiva on October 22, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Having Romney and Obama side by side is devastating for Obama. He should never have agreed to go on the same stage with Romney.

claudius on October 22, 2012 at 11:19 PM

The conservative media is dead to me if Obama’s “WE HAVE SHIPS THAT GO UNDERWATER” quote – with Obama’s instructive hand gesture – isn’t 24/7 for 2 weeks.

Chuck Schick on October 22, 2012 at 11:19 PM

I’ve been saying Romney won the debate and I’m sure many in the media will simply copy what I’ve been saying.

SparkPlug on October 22, 2012 at 11:19 PM

0 could not move mitt one iota, while himself getting lost in his own demagoguery

runner on October 22, 2012 at 11:16 PM

It was like the last round of a prize fight, with one fighter comfortably ahead in the bout, parrying the wild swings of his opponent. Obama didn’t land a single punch tonight–just the same old tired crap that he spouted in the first two debates.

ghostwriter on October 22, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Ship’s do not go underwater.

SWalker on October 22, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Quite right. People think that “ship” and “boat” are synonymous, but any Navy fellow worth his/her salt will tell you that just ain’t so.

KingGold on October 22, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Obama held his own and won the debate.

Dave Rywall on October 22, 2012 at 11:08 PM

The only place Obama can “hold his own” is in the bathroom – assuming he can find what to hold.

Archivarix on October 22, 2012 at 11:19 PM

The media said Romney won the first debate. Then the media said that the second debate was a draw, considering our liberal media, that means he won that to. The media said that Obama won the third debate, again, considering our liberal media, that’s at least a draw.

bandutski on October 22, 2012 at 11:19 PM

It was like a president debating Urkel.

PattyJ on October 22, 2012 at 11:19 PM

On Drudge you can see his scar that no one knows why he has one above his ear.
http://is.gd/5akdHI

tjexcite on October 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM

I don’t think the prevent defense used by Romney worked. You at least have to look like you’re trying, which is where Obama struggled in debate #1. But let’s see what the snap polls say.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Let’s not. The snap polls are MEANINGLESS. One would think that you would have figured that out by now. Obviously not.

Resist We Much on October 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Wargamer,

You’re frothing at the mouth.

I do understand your angst. Mitt had a disastrous debate tonight, trying to run out the clock in a tied election. It will be OK, though. Romney will fall behind and you can get used to the upcoming loss.

Take care of yourself.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Obama appeared to score points with his rebuttal of Romney’s “smaller navy” critique with his snarky “we also have fewer bayonets and horses” comeback intended to make Romney appear out of touch.

However, it’s already been pointed out that the Marines still train with and use bayonets. And everyone apparently has forgotten the spectacular achievement of the Special Forces on horseback who defeated the Taliban in Afghanistan.

So who’s out of touch?

de rigueur on October 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Did you see the race-traitor black woman in the front row who supports Romney? She’s a disgrace.

Bishop on October 22, 2012 at 11:11 PM

I did. She’s voting with her lady smarts, not her lady parts. Amen, sistah!

Naturally Curly on October 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM

And I’m calling bulls!t.

JPeterman on October 22, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Don’t worry…Ed or Erika will track down a poll you’ll be more comfortable with.

verbaluce on October 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM

I didn’t say he’s an extremist.

I’m saying he took a bunch of pathetic/obvious steps to the middle tonight because he/your party doesn’t have the balls to stand firm on its supposed foreign policy ideals and values that it’s been spewing for the past year.

Dave Rywall on October 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Why didn’t Obama have the balls to tell the truth about the fact that he did want to leave troops in Iraq?

Why did he lie about Romney’s position on the auto bailout, i.e., he DID write that the government should issue guarantees?

Why did he lie about outsourcing when he has done the same and his old saw was debunked by the WP?

Why did he lie about the sequestration?

Resist We Much on October 22, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Those are good questions but do not expect the meddling Canadian to answer them. BTW, exactly what did Romney not stand firm on? He has been consistent in his attitudes for years. He did not back off of anything. The truth is he did not react like the cartoon version of Romney that the left has created. That is your problem for living in a fantasy.

Terrye on October 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Just like Obama won the last debate and Mitt continued to climb in the polls everwhere, tonight’s debate will have the same effect. Mitt has big Mo!

Romney 52 Obama 47 on election day! That is the only poll that counts!

Rockshine on October 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM

The picture on Drudge says it all.

Schadenfreude on October 22, 2012 at 11:05 PM

You’re right! That puffed muscle in his cheek shows just how tight his jaw is clenched.

I didn’t watch because I’m sick of looking at the guy, but I read on the other thread he was giving death stares all night. Then the snide comments, personal attacks, and shaking the hand of his opponent second.

You’d think a person who supposedly went to Harvard would know the most basic etiquette of a debate.

I guess Obama took tonight’s whole affair as a personal affront.

Liam on October 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Why won’t you answer for your failures? You suck at this.

wargamer6 on October 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM

You don’t think they’ll go with an ad trumpeting the new “Peaceful World’ Mitt?
I guess McGovern was on his mind tonight.
I knew Romney had moved to the center, but jeesh…
But I know you still love him….no matter what.

verbaluce on October 22, 2012 at 11:18 PM

This moves voters how?

NotCoach on October 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM

I would LOVE social policy of the 1950s, foreign policy of the 1980s, and economic policy of the 1920s!

Ted Torgerson on October 22, 2012 at 11:21 PM

Dave Rywall on October 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM

That’s rich when Obama said right there in front of God and everyone that sequestration won’t happen. Now all his little worker bees trying to correct it.

Cindy Munford on October 22, 2012 at 11:21 PM

Loved it when Mitt said that Obama went around the Middle East apologizing to different countries and Obama said he did not. We all know he did do that the lying pos.

mixplix on October 22, 2012 at 11:21 PM

How did he ever lose to McCain?

they lie on October 22, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Fred Thompson. The old farts outmaneuvered him. It was probably for the best. He is a much stronger candidate this time around. He’s ready to be president. We’re finally going to have a real president!

ghostwriter on October 22, 2012 at 11:21 PM

Just the fact that Mitt Romney managed to get through three debates with Obama and not lash out at him, even once, or lose his temper, tells me that Mitt Romney has the control and the discipline to be the President of the United States.

thatsafactjack on October 22, 2012 at 11:21 PM

VICTORY!!!

El_Terrible on October 22, 2012 at 11:21 PM

jimgeraghty Fareed Zakaria citing CBS instant poll result, better for Obama, on CNN. Well, we shouldn’t be surprised he’s copying somebody else’s work.

Lulz.

KingGold on October 22, 2012 at 11:21 PM

Did anyone keep a count of how many times Obama said “bin Laden”?

farsighted on October 22, 2012 at 11:21 PM

I happened to watch CNN right after the debate. One of the “undecideds” let slip that he will “continue to support Obama”. Fake but accurate!

Archivarix on October 22, 2012 at 11:21 PM

After the last debate (debate # 2) the media had “flash polls” that showed Obama winning. However, the polls (biased as they are) continue to show Romney increasing his lead.
jaime on October 22, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Most of the flash polls only involve people just going to a webpage and clicking on a poll, that’s why you have such a huge difference between them and scientific polling.

whatcat on October 22, 2012 at 11:21 PM

Another American foreign policy debate come and gone. Both candidates agree that imperialism is awesome, drone strikes that kill children are awesome and that we should keep borrowing from China to afford a useless foreign policy. Yay I guess.

libfreeordie on October 22, 2012 at 11:21 PM

Calling it a night. Home stretch here we come.

gophergirl on October 22, 2012 at 11:19 PM

G’night–sleep tight. :)

KickandSwimMom on October 22, 2012 at 11:21 PM

The media said that Obama won the third debate, again, considering our liberal media, that’s at least a draw.

bandutski on October 22, 2012 at 11:19 PM

I don’t see where the media is claiming a clear winner here. They are saying that Romney did what he needed to do.

Corporal Tunnel on October 22, 2012 at 11:22 PM

Ship’s do not go underwater.

SWalker on October 22, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Quite right. People think that “ship” and “boat” are synonymous, but any Navy fellow worth his/her salt will tell you that just ain’t so.

KingGold on October 22, 2012 at 11:19 PM

ROTFLMAO… My Dad and two of my brothers were in the US Navy, I literally had that lesson beaten into me… o_O

SWalker on October 22, 2012 at 11:22 PM

Cuda!

Naturally Curly on October 22, 2012 at 11:22 PM

Cuda…she’s got some hippy/bo-ho attire there…

jimver on October 22, 2012 at 11:22 PM

DanFosterNRO Most of the recent polls show Romney winning comfortably among independents. PPP either outlier or start of shift back. Who knows.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 11:22 PM

The poll results will be much worse for Romney than after debate #2.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Sure, Linus and one day the Great Pumpkin will rise out of the pumpkin patch with presents for you, huh? Give it up, KingZero is done.

cynccook on October 22, 2012 at 11:22 PM

I happened to watch CNN right after the debate. One of the “undecideds” let slip that he will “continue to support Obama”. Fake but accurate!

Archivarix on October 22, 2012 at 11:21 PM

Good catch. Oops!

Rational Thought on October 22, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Well if nothing else, at least we both learned what they call those ships that go under water.

verbaluce on October 22, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Ships that go underwater have names like the Lusitania and the Titanic.

German U-boats were called U-BOATS for a reason.

Resist We Much on October 22, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Obama got tired of slamming Bush for the 2000′s, so he had to go back to the 1980′s.

MeatHeadinCA on October 22, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Wargamer,

You’re frothing at the mouth.

I do understand your angst. Mitt had a disastrous debate tonight, trying to run out the clock in a tied election. It will be OK, though. Romney will fall behind and you can get used to the upcoming loss.

Take care of yourself.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM

You are, as always, delusional. The last debate was supposed to be a disaster too..right? And yet Romney is still gaining ground and Obama is still not getting anywhere near 50.

Obama was aggressive tonight, but that does not mean he actually won the debate..it is only a win, if it helps you. This did not help Obama.

Terrye on October 22, 2012 at 11:23 PM

I don’t think the prevent defense used by Romney worked. You at least have to look like you’re trying, which is where Obama struggled in debate #1. But let’s see what the snap polls say.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Only one started a war without congressional approval, only one authorized a drone strike against an American citizen, and coincidentally only one is a guy you voted for.

Bishop on October 22, 2012 at 11:23 PM

My favorite part was when Obama refered to the troops in Iraq as “Folks”

Pretty much an unsolicited confession.

Obama loses in a landslide. Don’t worry, you godless reprobate leftists, I will remind each and every one of you every single day for the next fours years.

Cheers!

tom daschle concerned on October 22, 2012 at 11:24 PM

I wasn’t posting much in the other thread as I couldn’t watch the debate at work, but that CBS poll is pretty shocking. A full majority of undecideds went with Obama? Did he really dominate that heavily?

Typhonsentra on October 22, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Dave Rywall on October 22, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Ron Paul lost. Get over it.

Corporal Tunnel on October 22, 2012 at 11:16 PM

This +1000.

I have, not once, heard any Ron Paul supporter EVER admit this.

They aren’t capable of it.

Hawkins1701 on October 22, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Did I hear Obama say that the war in Iraq was justified? After bashing Bush for eight years. Saying they were tricked in to voting for it. Now a Democrat is taking credit for it?

bandutski on October 22, 2012 at 11:24 PM

The poll results will be much worse for Romney than after debate #2.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Another keeper!

Resist We Much on October 22, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Is Sarah Palin a paid spokesperson for the oil companies?

Don’t worry, I agree with ‘drill-baby-drill’, but she always starts with this in every interview with Sean.

Corporal Tunnel on October 22, 2012 at 11:24 PM

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 11:22 PM

Right. Because PPP was able to poll all indys after the debate in less than an hour.

wargamer6 on October 22, 2012 at 11:24 PM

I’m so worried… just as much as the Cardinals are worried that they won’t win…. Ha,ha,ha,ah ha,…

sandee on October 22, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Big Bird, binders, and ?????. They got nothing out of this debate except cleaning up Obama’s lies.

conservative pilgrim on October 22, 2012 at 11:24 PM

whatcat on October 22, 2012 at 11:21 PM

Oh. Then they are worthless. Thanks for the info.

jaime on October 22, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Don’t worry…Ed or Erika will track down a poll you’ll be more comfortable with.

verbaluce on October 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM

And you will be crapping your pants on Nov 6 when the boy king goes down in flames.

JPeterman on October 22, 2012 at 11:24 PM

what’s gumby’s batting avg so far?

runner on October 22, 2012 at 11:24 PM

The poll results will be much worse for Romney than after debate #2.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Bull

Terrye on October 22, 2012 at 11:25 PM

bayonets are pretty handy

why does Obama hate our troops?

Slade73 on October 22, 2012 at 11:25 PM

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