Dueling Romney/Obama FP ads: “Healed the world?” vs. “20th-century approach”

posted at 6:36 pm on October 22, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

With the third presidential debate focusing exclusively on foreign policy and national security this evening, both camps have been kicking the messaging on those fronts into high gear. One of Team Romney’s newly-released ads today is a one-minute ditty taking President Obama to task for his leaving-much-to-be-desired dealings with Iran, Syria, and Russia.

I get what Team R is doing with this one — it may not be the focus tonight, but let us not forget the ease and willingness with which President Obama wholeheartedly agreed to the new START treaty, professed his post-election ability to be even more flexible with Russia, and Russia’s weight in the bloody Syrian conflict.

Team Obama’s rejoinder? That silly Mitt Romney. He really is stuck in the 1950s, what with all of his antiquated Cold-War philosophies. Doesn’t he know anything about the new, peaceful, morally squishy world order cemented by President Obama’s oh-so-charismatic, healing approach?

Well, that was about as unspecific as it gets. I think we’re more likely to spend more time hearing about Iran, Israel, Libya, and the Arab Spring tonight than we are about the geopolitical threats from Russia, but I’m sure we’ll hear plenty in this vein from President Obama about how Mitt Romney and his governing/business background make him unfit to be commander-in-chief… because President Obama’s on-the-job-training just makes him so much more qualified and capable, or something.


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Do Amercians still care about foreign policy?

newtopia on October 22, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Oh, and what happens if Obama goes “full Hillary” tonight and breaks out the tears?

newtopia on October 22, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Can we please have a question tonight about the “after the election, I’ll have more flexibility” statement?

aunursa on October 22, 2012 at 6:40 PM

That silly Mitt Romney. He really is stuck in the 1950s, what with all of his antiquated Cold-War philosophies.

In the 50′s we had General Eisenhower as President.

It’s 2012, and we have Neville Chamberlain as President.

Give me some 1950′s strength, please.

portlandon on October 22, 2012 at 6:41 PM

Go Mitt

jugular against mr flexibility

cmsinaz on October 22, 2012 at 6:41 PM

OMG !! October Surprise just dropped their documents! This changes everything. That’s it, I’m switching my vote.

http://octsurprise.com/doc-reader.html

rightallthetime on October 22, 2012 at 6:43 PM

When talking to Valdimir, did Obama address him as Comrade?

Oil Can on October 22, 2012 at 6:45 PM

rightallthetime on October 22, 2012 at 6:43 PM

can’t open linky

cmsinaz on October 22, 2012 at 6:45 PM

rightallthetime on October 22, 2012 at 6:43 PM

you got me…

cmsinaz on October 22, 2012 at 6:46 PM

can’t open linky

cmsinaz on October 22, 2012 at 6:45 PM

It’s a rick roll…

sandee on October 22, 2012 at 6:47 PM

The progressives amuse me endlessly. The notion that we shouldn’t really care about foreign policy, that it’s somehow passe, is in direct conflict with the realities of a ‘global community’.

Their ignorance knows no bounds, apparently, since trade, IS foreign policy and trade IS our economy.

Further, this nations ability to project military might where, and when necessary, directly effects this nations interests, which IS trade, and, hence, our economy.

Also, considering that the entire global GDP is about $65 trillion/yr, and the US GDP comprises a full $15 trillion of that total just here at home, much less the amount that is generated by our trade worldwide for, and with, other nations, our interest in foreign policy had better be exquisitely sharp, or the world sinks into economic oblivion.

Without a healthy economy, there is no money, in the form of revenues raised by taxing income, on which the government can operate, much less dole out to keep all those social programs so near and dear to the hearts of liberals, afloat.

So, yes… Americans still have a healthy and necessary interest in foreign policy.

thatsafactjack on October 22, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Arghhhh! LOL

Jvette on October 22, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Team Romney in tonight’s debate…

“Mr. President, on the night of 09/11/12, when you were informed of the attack on the United States Consulate in Benghazi, Libya…

… before you went to sleep, what was yor first order to our military?”

Seven Percent Solution on October 22, 2012 at 6:50 PM

Can we please have a question tonight about the “after the election, I’ll have more flexibility” statement?

aunursa on October 22, 2012 at 6:40 PM

and what did you mean “we are doing a few things under the radar” regarding gun control (F&F)….

hillsoftx on October 22, 2012 at 6:50 PM

really worried what schieffer has up his sleeve…

cripe

cmsinaz on October 22, 2012 at 6:50 PM

really worried what schieffer has up his sleeve…

cripe

cmsinaz on October 22, 2012 at 6:50 PM

Whatever it is, it’s going to be ugly. There is no way Schieffer isn’t going to partner with his boy-king. He might be more subtle than Crowley, but he’ll be showing his true colors (various shades of red) the whole time.

Liam on October 22, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Obama campaign is dying a slow death. We need a death panel.

Oil Can on October 22, 2012 at 6:54 PM

really worried what schieffer has up his sleeve…

cripe

cmsinaz on October 22, 2012 at 6:50 PM

I think he knows between the prior 3 misfits he has an opportunity to shine, and with the limited time he has left in the media and on Earth, I think he will be balanced…**wakes up from dream**

hillsoftx on October 22, 2012 at 6:54 PM

madeleine, how’d that relationship with kim jung il work out?

Dr. Demento on October 22, 2012 at 6:55 PM

http://octsurprise.com/doc-reader.html

rightallthetime on October 22, 2012 at 6:43 PM

I cant read it either on this POS laptop, what’s it say?

thebrokenrattle on October 22, 2012 at 6:58 PM

I cant read it either on this POS laptop, what’s it say?

thebrokenrattle on October 22, 2012 at 6:58 PM

It’s a rick roll.

gophergirl on October 22, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Speaking of Foreign Policy…………maybe’s Warrior in Chief
Mom Jeans should of read the reports,er,looked at other reports!

The CIA’s Libya Rebels: The Same Terrorists who Killed US, NATO Troops in Iraq
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2007 West Point Study
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Shows Benghazi-Darnah-Tobruk Area was a World Leader in Al Qaeda Suicide Bomber Recruitment
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“Serpents, thirst, heat, and sand … Libya alone can present a multitude of woes that it would beseem men to fly from.”
Lucan, Pharsalia

Webster G. Tarpley, Ph.D.
March 24, 2011
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Washington DC, March 24, 2011 — The current military attack on Libya has been motivated by UN Security Council resolution 1973 with the need to protect civilians. Statements by President Obama, British Prime Minister Cameron, French President Sarkozy, and other leaders have stressed the humanitarian nature of the intervention, which is said to aim at preventing a massacre of pro-democracy forces and human rights advocates by the Qaddafi regime.(A whole lot More……………)
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http://tarpley.net/2011/03/24/the-cia%E2%80%99s-libya-rebels-the-same-terrorists-who-killed-us-nato-troops-in-iraq/

canopfor on October 22, 2012 at 7:07 PM

It’s a rick roll.

gophergirl on October 22, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Ah Ha! I just learned something new.

GrannyDee on October 22, 2012 at 7:07 PM

I’m expecting Obama to say that Romney has no experience, that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, and/or that he’s lying.

It’s all that Obama has, since he can’t defend his abysmal record on foreign policy, and he has no viable plan for the next four years.

I expect Obama to be smug, condescending, aggressive, and rude. He has very little to lose.

All Romney has to do is be presidential. Confident, informed, and calm.

thatsafactjack on October 22, 2012 at 7:07 PM

evening all. LOL, I am still trying to figure it out!

CoffeeLover on October 22, 2012 at 7:08 PM

I remember the song, even see that the guy looks familar. Is his name Rick?

CoffeeLover on October 22, 2012 at 7:10 PM

but I’m sure we’ll hear plenty in this vein from President Obama about how Mitt Romney and his governing/business background make him unfit to be commander-in-chief… because President Obama’s on-the-job-training just makes him so much more qualified and capable, or something

Hey Hussein had plenty of foreign policy experience before he became POTUS.
He was a communist organizer in Sh1tcago don’t you remember ?
He knows why Americaasssss chickenssss come home to roost.
He hangs out with all kinds of foreigners, one of them even bought him a house.He read a speech in Berlin too, which is in Germany.
What has Romney done for foregn policy ?

burrata on October 22, 2012 at 7:12 PM

really worried what schieffer has up his sleeve…

cripe

cmsinaz on October 22, 2012 at 6:50 PM

cmsinaz:

I too, am a tad worried, about Lefty Operative Sh*ts…F’er!:)

canopfor on October 22, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Really O/T, but I am fuming.

Obama’s thugs at work:

Wisconsin Senator’s Son Beaten to Pulp by Anti-Romney Thugs
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/22/Wisconsin-Senator-s-Son-Beaten-to-a-Pulp-by-Obama-s-Thugs

GrannyDee on October 22, 2012 at 7:12 PM

I remember the song, even see that the guy looks familar. Is his name Rick?

CoffeeLover on October 22, 2012 at 7:10 PM

Rick Astley is the singer. A rick roll is people post a link to his songs because they are very annoying. They do this usually under the guise of the link being very important.

Hence you’ve been “Rick Rolled”

gophergirl on October 22, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Yes, that’s Rick Astley. Around a couple of years ago it became a running joke to get people to watch that video accidentally.

Gingotts on October 22, 2012 at 7:13 PM

And………………………..

ROS-LEHTINEN:
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Obama still trying to sweet-talk Iran out of building the bomb
***************************************************************

Weak foreign policy poses serious threat
Fri Oct 19 2012
By Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen
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Just a few days ago, Mansour J. Arbabsiar pleaded guilty to working with Iran’s Quds force to carry out an attack on U.S. soil and assassinate a foreign diplomat stationed in Washington. Earlier this month, Hezbollah, a terrorist proxy of the Iranian regime, reportedly launched an Iranian-supplied drone that penetrated Israel’s airspace before being shot down. Late last month, the Iranian navy launched four missiles as a show of force and its capacity to shut down access to the Persian Gulf. These are just a few examples of how the Iranian threat has become more dangerous since the Obama administration took office.

Unfortunately, despite its rhetoric to the contrary, the administration has not done what is necessary to effectively address the threat from Tehran. Iran’s nuclear program, particularly its ability to produce enriched uranium, has expanded exponentially since President Obama took office in 2009. Yet the president continues to embrace engagement and meaningless negotiations with Tehran while refusing to set clear red lines with respect to Iran’s nuclear program. The administration’s behavior has sent a clear message to our allies and the Iranian regime: The United States is not willing to do what it takes to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons capability.

Nonetheless, sanctions spearheaded by Congress — even with the administration fighting us every step of the way — have made an impact. Iran’s oil revenues are falling and could drop much lower as the embargo on Iranian oil expands and investment in Iran’s oil sector dries up. Economic sanctions also are inflicting increasing damage on Iran’s long-term oil-production potential. Concurrently, Iran is experiencing a currency crisis that could threaten the stability of the regime. The Iranian regime also reports that consumer prices rose more than 40 percent from spring 2010 to spring 2012. Updated data have not been published in recent months, presumably because the data show further hyperinflation. We must exploit this vulnerability. To do so, the president must make full and immediate use of the tools Congress has provided him. Sanctions on Iran’s oil industry and banking system are curtailing the foreign partnerships on which Iran’s oil industry has relied. Given these trends, it is not unreasonable to contemplate the end of oil exports from Iran, with resulting damage to government finances, foreign exchange earnings and the larger Iranian economy.(More……………..)
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/oct/19/obama-still-trying-to-sweet-talk-iran-out-of-build/

canopfor on October 22, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Thanks GG and Gingotts….I am admitting to getting old. Can’t keep up with the culture anymore. Now I am “withit” ROFLMAO.

GrannyDee — that is awful. And I thought people not putting bumper stickers on their cars for fear of it being keyed was deplorable…this by far is just sickening. Praying for his speedy recovery and that the police find and prosecute the thugs.

CoffeeLover on October 22, 2012 at 7:18 PM

Liam on October 22, 2012 at 6:53 PM

dang it…nervous nelly here….

hillsoftx on October 22, 2012 at 6:54 PM

what a dream

canopfor on October 22, 2012 at 7:12 PM

exactamundo

cmsinaz on October 22, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Mitt will have to Pivot from the @ on Mitt fight to what he wants to answer and how! The Obama Jihadi media and Schieffer specifically will be trying to pull the same routine he did with McCain in 2008. Mitt can’t let this clown redirect him from what he knows he needs to say & do! Mitt should have an Obama 2012 Button in his pocket, so when Schieffer gets to partisan, he can just pull out the campaign button and say, “Why Don’t You Just Take A Seat Over Hear and I’ll Debate You Both?” If Mitt doesn’t hit this clown hard, it’ll be just like Obama & the muslim jihadis. Hit them hard or encourage and embolden them for the next attack! Here’s how Mitt should take on the Obama Jihadi media: http://paratisiusa.blogspot.com/2012/09/an-open-letter-to-those-who-should-know.html?spref=tw

God Bless America!

paratisi on October 22, 2012 at 7:21 PM

cnn schilling for dear leader

foreign policy is in obama’s wheelhouse…

puhleeze

cmsinaz on October 22, 2012 at 7:21 PM

Thanks GG and Gingotts….I am admitting to getting old. Can’t keep up with the culture anymore. Now I am “withit” ROFLMAO.

GrannyDee — that is awful. And I thought people not putting bumper stickers on their cars for fear of it being keyed was deplorable…this by far is just sickening. Praying for his speedy recovery and that the police find and prosecute the thugs.

CoffeeLover on October 22, 2012 at 7:18 PM

Greetings, CoffeeLover. I know exactly what you mean about getting old and not being able to keep up with today’s culture. :)

I, too, am praying for that young man’s speedy and full recovery. Aren’t you glad we have such a “uniter” in the WH? (spit)

GrannyDee on October 22, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Do Amercians still care about foreign policy?

newtopia on October 22, 2012 at 6:39 PM

If it is tied to our economy and our brave men and women, then yes.

ptcamn on October 22, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Praying for his speedy recovery and that the police find and prosecute the thugs.

CoffeeLover on October 22, 2012 at 7:18 PM

As if the unionized police in WI will even move their finger to prosecute an Obama thug, specially if he beats up some evil rethuglican :(

burrata on October 22, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Hi GrannyDee — Yep I do blame this administration for the deterioration and acceptance Obama seems more than happy to let slide by. A leader and a role model esh~~~~ makes me gag.

CoffeeLover on October 22, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Oh, and what happens if Obama goes “full Hillary” tonight and breaks out the tears?

newtopia on October 22, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Oh please, Obama would have to go full Boehner to even have a hope and then where is his ‘do nothing congress’ argument?

The truly sad thing is that the people covering this know the truth and fear to speak it. They’re sometimes forced to recognize it, but there’s rules to JournOlist club, y’know?

CitizenEgg on October 22, 2012 at 7:33 PM

As if the unionized police in WI will even move their finger to prosecute an Obama thug, specially if he beats up some evil rethuglican :(

burrata on October 22, 2012 at 7:31 PM

My thoughts exactly.

I just can’t believe it’s come to this. Obama’s followers truly are insane.

GrannyDee on October 22, 2012 at 7:33 PM

All together now boys and girls:

Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya;
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya;
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya;
Oh, Lord, kumbaya.
Someone’s cryin’, Lord, kumbaya;
Someone’s cryin’, Lord, kumbaya;
Someone’s cryin’, Lord, kumbaya;
Oh, Lord, kumbaya.

(Repeat fourteen times)

slickwillie2001 on October 22, 2012 at 7:34 PM

rightallthetime on October 22, 2012 at 6:43 PM

Shame on you! Although, the one slightly cool thing I recall about Nancy Pelosi was when her staff set up a Rick roll on her congressional web site. (Thus indicating the decline of Rick rolling.)

talkingpoints on October 22, 2012 at 7:35 PM

slickwillie2001 on October 22, 2012 at 7:34 PM

(Repeat fourteen a hundred times)

FIFM

(Thanks a lot, Slick. Now I’ve got that song stuck in my head.)

GrannyDee on October 22, 2012 at 7:37 PM

It’s a rick roll.

gophergirl on October 22, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Heh, that’s almost awesome.

thebrokenrattle on October 22, 2012 at 7:43 PM

Love this! Please watch as 13 year old grades Obama vs. Romney. BTW, if you haven’t heard about “Stacy on the Right,” you need to check her out!

http://stacyontheright.com/2012/10/22/13-year-old-jenny-gives-report-cards-to-obama-and-romney-video/

Chewy the Lab on October 22, 2012 at 7:44 PM

This is important in that the major feature of having a President is to deal with forgien Powers.

As to the excellent questions being poised by Hot Air commenters, Next Election, let’s have Hot Air sponsor one. The time of the “mainstream Media” is over. I would like to see Ed conduct a real debate, strict time limits, real time fact checking and questions that would make the Political parties deal with the concerns of the People.

Examples:

Why are we in NATO—an alliance created to deter Soviet imperialism—21 years after the Soviet Union ceased to exist?

• Should “chain” immigration be restricted to spouses and dependent children?

• Should race preferences by public agencies be unconstitutional?

• With life expectancy today around 15 years above what it was when Social Security was introduced and seven or eight years higher than when Medicare came in, why have not eligibility ages for these entitlements been adjusted upward to correspond?

• If our massive nuclear arsenal was sufficient to deter the USSR, why would it not be sufficient to deter Iran?

• Why are there no secure fences along our nation’s land borders?

• Should welfare recipients be allowed to vote?

• Should public employees be allowed to unionize?

• Instead of a 3.4-million-word federal tax code, could not necessary revenue be raised by means any ordinary educated citizen can understand in their entirety?

• What purpose is served by the 52,000 US troops stationed in Germany, or the 35,000 in Japan, or the 28,000 in South Korea?

• Why does Congress never declare war, as Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution provides? Why do they never deny appellate jurisdiction to the Supreme Court, as Article III, Section 2 permits?

• What does the USA gain by permitting large-scale settlement of Muslims in our country?

• A shortage of skills in some occupation is signaled economically by a rapid, prolonged rise in wages for that occupation. Why, in the absence of such signals, are guest-worker visas issued?

• Should civil servants be hired strictly by merit as determined by competitive examinations?

I am sure you can add hundreds if not thousands of hard questions that would help voters get a good look at the candidates. Even some of these questions would make Romney uncomfortable, and make the O-hole craw under the podium in fear.

Instead we get questions from the press like “What was the first thing you felt when you stepped into the Oval Office as President?”

Gah!

Bulletchaser on October 22, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Sorry! Foreign

Bulletchaser on October 22, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Barack Obama has unique, first-hand knowledge of foreign affairs that far predates his presidency. His Kenyan and Indonesian passports can attest to that.

Archivarix on October 22, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Bulletchaser on October 22, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Excellent idea, and it can be done next week, why wait for the next election ?
I hope someone like Trump volunteers to pick up the tab !
Imagine a panel of Ed Morrisey, Allah, Jim Hoft, Tucker Carlson and Michelle Malkin grilling the candidates :) Imagine Hussein lying to them on live TV and getting a verbal beatdown from either of them…mmmmmm….mmmmm

burrata on October 22, 2012 at 7:57 PM

canopfor on October 22, 2012 at 7:12 PM

exactamundo

cmsinaz on October 22, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Cmsinaz:—–:0

canopfor on October 22, 2012 at 8:02 PM

I said it before, I’ll say it again, because I mean it: That moment when he shared with Medvedev his intent to be “more flexible” after the election was an impeachable offense by any sane definition of the term “high crimes and misdemeanors.” It only makes sense in a world where a leader is negotiating in bad faith with respect to the people he represents.

bobcalco on October 22, 2012 at 8:23 PM

To be clear, what he does with Medvedev — and they were quite touchy-feely in that exchange — off hours in a bath house with his humidor is, I suppose, their business. But this affects negotiations with a hostile power on matters related to our national security.

bobcalco on October 22, 2012 at 8:27 PM

BTW, I find the automatic playing of these video advertisements on this page extremely annoying. I love HA but this is not right.

bobcalco on October 22, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Albright? He’s hedging his bets on THAT b%*#h?

Yeah, that’ll work out well. Some 85 year old hag telling me what’s 21st century. Didn’t she say they will blame Bush forever?

Game.Over.

Sponge on October 23, 2012 at 8:56 AM

As a woman, I can ask this and not get killed: has anyone noticed the state of the planet overall with women so involved with every level of government, social, financial, law and regulations in this country and the world?” Madelaine is a perfect example…she did nothing of note and in Hillary’s case, what she has done has done damage that can’t be repaired overnight!

sharinlite on October 23, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Don’t know about you but I’m still waiting for the oceans to stop rising and the planet to heal

kens on October 23, 2012 at 11:54 AM