ABC/WaPo poll: Romney pulls nearly even with Obama on handling foreign affairs, terrorism; Update: Obama’s giving up on NC, says Begala

posted at 7:47 pm on October 22, 2012 by Allahpundit

I know you’ve got poll fatigue but we’re in a news holding pattern ahead of the debate. This one’s topical, though: Even before the first words are spoken in Florida tonight, Romney’s surged into a near tie with O on the two core components of foreign policy. Consider it insurance against a poor performance this evening. Barring any catastrophic gaffes, Romney seems to have already met the credibility threshold for the presidency, enough so that he’s even with an incumbent despite the country not yet having heard him talk foreign policy at length. If he does well tonight, he builds on that. If he does “meh,” eh. Probably won’t hurt him any.

With tonight’s debate focused on foreign policy, the poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates, finds Romney virtually tied with Obama in trust to handle international affairs (49-46 percent, Obama-Romney) and terrorism (47-46 percent), as well as to serve as commander-in-chief of the armed services (48-45 percent). That reflects a shift in Romney’s favor; Obama led on terrorism by 11 points as recently as Sept. 29, and on international affairs by 7 points earlier this month.

In another milestone for Romney, 50 percent of likely voters express a favorable opinion of him overall, while 47 percent see him unfavorably – his highest popularity score of the season, and one of the rare times he’s been numerically above water in this measure. His personal popularity now roughly matches Obama’s 52-46 percent, favorable-unfavorable…

As well as close overall, the contest stands at 51-47 percent, Romney-Obama, in the nine battleground states designated by the ABC News Political Unit – well within the margin of sampling error, and not significantly different from the mid-month 51-46 percent, Obama-Romney, in these same states. But regardless of sampling error, the bigger number now is Romney’s, another indication of the competitiveness he’s showing.

I hope they’re going to poll those battleground states with a bigger sample. A nine-point swing may not be statistically significant in this case, but I’d sure like to know what sort of swing a proper sample is picking up. Strangely, while Romney’s gained ground on foreign affairs, Obama’s gained ground on the economy (he trails by just two), the deficit (he trails by four), and taxes (he leads by 11), which makes this poll the opposite of the CW — Obama’s improved domestically and Romney’s improved on international issues. Also strange is that ABC’s still picking up its largest gender gap of the season, a 14-point lead among women for O and a 12-point lead among men for Romney. A few other recent high-profile polls have shown Romney gaining with women. Proof that the left’s days-long fascination with “binder” references has paid off? Probably not:

Unlike their more conservative cohorts, these women agreed that abortion is not any of the federal government’s business. But they also didn’t believe abortion rights were on the line in the coming election. “It has never changed,” Zebib said. “We’ve had pro-life presidents many times, and it didn’t change. It’s a bumper sticker. They try to divert our attention.”

Eileen touched her friend’s arm. “Most women I know, whether they’re for Obama or Romney, they feel the same thing,” she said. “It’s a distraction. That whole Gloria Steinem thing is old.”…

Romney’s “binders full of women” line, an awkward phrasing that inspired reams of mockery on the Internet, wasn’t changing any minds among the women I spoke to. Democratic partisans saw it as more evidence Romney was out of touch; Republican partisans saw it as of a piece with his business background. “Anyone who’s ever been a professional, ever, knows that’s how you get resumes: in a binder,”43-year-old Republican stay-at-home mother Michele Moss said, rolling her eyes. Only someone who’d never been in the business world — like Obama — would fail to understand that.

The “binders” line didn’t register at all among the undecided women.

Yeah, it’s a strange thing for an ostensibly “progressive” administration to decide that the key to women’s votes runs through abortion and contraception when the most momentous progress they’ve made over the last 50 years has to do with jobs. Note to O: When women tell you they’re concerned about “labor,” they’re not referring to the last stages of pregnancy. Gallup:

Says Laura Genero at AmSpec, “Economics, not reproduction, is the women’s issue of the 21st century. It’s one of the ironies of this election that Mitt Romney– whose wife worked primarily inside the home — has a better grasp of this than President Obama, whose wife worked outside the home.” Tonight’s debate will probably have the smallest effect of the four this year on moving the gender gap one way or another, but we’ll see. Three days or so until the first post-debate polls.

Update: Like I was saying, the bulk of the evidence right now is that the gender gap is closing, not opening. New from CBS:

The poll also shows a narrowing of the gender gap. Women have given the President a nearly double-digit lead in many polls, including the September CBS News/New York Times Poll. Now, however, women support Mr. Obama by five points, 50 to 45 percent (down from 12 points last month); the race is even among men – tied at 47 percent.

Update: Via the Standard, no surprise here:


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I see GumMeAndPollMe is out of rehab

faraway on October 22, 2012 at 7:58 PM

Only because even medicine has its limits…

riddick on October 22, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Ooh, Ooh, Mr. Kotter, Mr. Kotter….It’s GOTV!!!!! snort

BeachBum on October 22, 2012 at 8:18 PM

“Read it and weep: https://twitter.com/GOP

Flora Duh on October 22, 2012 at 8:14 PM”

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Voter contacts and door knocks, LOL. Talk about pointless and a waste of effort.

That means absolutely nothing when you have the Obama campaign and their vans and busses taking voters to the polls racking up huge margins in early voting. But, hey, the Romney campaign is calling people and knocking on their doors!

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Fox Ralph Peters: “Debate tonight between 2 people… a man that makes things happen… and a man that makes things up”

hahahahaha

faraway on October 22, 2012 at 8:18 PM

********************* The Weeping Violin**********************

is now on the Launch Pad,in ready position,to be played
at thee most opportunistic moments when Hopey,catchs
excessive flak,as his engines,one by one shut down…..
and the ground,er,Debate stage floor,comes rushing up…
(sarc)

canopfor on October 22, 2012 at 8:18 PM

You would have thought the Romney campaign would take this seriously with the way Obama obliterated McCain with early voting.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:02 PM

A couple of things…the margin in early voting is down…another thing, early voting is not all there is…it is just that if you vote early you get your drugs sooner. See how that works?

Terrye on October 22, 2012 at 8:19 PM

If Obama didn’t have literally the best early voting GOTV in the history of American politics, then Romney’s position wouldn’t be that bad. However, he’s being swamped and won’t be able to make up the considerable early deficit.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Aww, the atomic bomb of early voting GOTV :)….

jimver on October 22, 2012 at 8:19 PM

So all that Charlotte, NC money was wasted?

At least the Dems are consistent. And they wasted THEIR money, not the taxpayers. That’s a nice change.

GarandFan on October 22, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Bob – “why are you so awesome Mr. President?”

Barack – “ask Osama Bin Laden why I’m so awesome.”

Slade73 on October 22, 2012 at 8:19 PM

You would have thought the Romney campaign would take this seriously with the way Obama obliterated McCain with early voting.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:02 PM

A couple of things…the margin in early voting is down…another thing, early voting is not all there is…it is just that if you vote early you get your drugs sooner. See how that works?

Terrye on October 22, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Well, he knows, he got his and then some :)….

jimver on October 22, 2012 at 8:20 PM

What’s the over/under on Gumballs declaring an obama bounce from this debate..like he declared after the other 2?

wargamer6 on October 22, 2012 at 8:20 PM

So, gumby…are you still lying and pretending to be a concerned GOPer or have you owned up to being a delusional Dem troll?

Terrye on October 22, 2012 at 8:21 PM

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:14 PM

This.

hillbillyjim on October 22, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Bob – “Mitt Romney, you must give your opening speech without using the letter “O”"

Bob – “Pres. Obama, you must give your opener without using the letter “R”"

Ok GO!

Varchild on October 22, 2012 at 8:21 PM

faraway on October 22, 2012 at 8:18 PM

That was great.

Philly on October 22, 2012 at 8:21 PM

BTW, Obama leads Romney 48-46 in that CBS/NYT poll.

Are you guys going to get excited about being down 2 pts?!?!

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Obama’s numbers are lower than Bush’s were at this stage of the game in 2004, and commensurately Romney’s are above Kerry. I’d be getting a little sweaty if I were you.

alchemist19 on October 22, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Now while I am confident that Romney is going to win, I am not getting complacent. Fact of the matter is, NEVER underestimate the stupidity of the American electorate as a whole. I remember back in 2008, about 85% of people commentating here were convinced Obama would lose. I remember one commentator in particular “ManlyRush” who was telling everyone McCain would win in a landslide. EVEN on the day of the election AFTER PA, OH, FL had been called.

We can’t live in a bubble like the libs who read Silver’s “poll analysis” (aka partisan wishcasting)” or spread the gospel of “unskewedpolls.com.” Both are nothing more than partisan wishcasting.

Truth is OHIO still concerns me, we can’t dismiss every poll out of OH as severely skewed.

Whoever can volunteer should help shore up the GOTV in swing states, makes calls, etc.

No matter what the polls say we need to work/act like we are behind. Never underestimate the LEFT’s ability to GOTV (even the cemetery, illegal vote).

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 22, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Bob – “do you indeed carry a big stick?”

Barack – “ask Osama Bin Laden how big my stick is.”

Slade73 on October 22, 2012 at 8:22 PM

I wish Gov Romney would say to prez obama.. I know you said you would
Fundamentally change the USA . We were all hoping it would be for the
Better.
We were such suckers to believe him. And unbelievably
Naive to not see through his lies.”

MrMoe on October 22, 2012 at 8:22 PM

What’s the over/under on Gumballs declaring an obama bounce from this debate..like he declared after the other 2?

wargamer6 on October 22, 2012 at 8:20 PM

No doubt he still believes that Obama won both of those debates big and the whole country is madly in love with him…just you wait and see…

Terrye on October 22, 2012 at 8:22 PM

NumbersMuncher ‏@NumbersMuncher
CBS national poll has O+2, 48-46. Was 49-46 last time. Would argue this is O’s best poll today – even sample and O leads w/ indys.
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gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Howdy, canopfor!

Keep’um straight.

hillbillyjim on October 22, 2012 at 8:22 PM

That’s called “Crappy flopping” ( pronounced croppie…it’s a fish native up north of Texas a ways)!

thatsafactjack on October 22, 2012 at 8:10 PM

You say croppie, I say crappy, let’s call the whole thing off. ;-)

My mallet on the fish heads reference was a subtle flashback to Sarah’s clubbings in that show last year, which had the left wetting themselves of how awful she is.

TXUS on October 22, 2012 at 8:23 PM

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012

…need lotion?…or will Vaseline do?

KOOLAID2 on October 22, 2012 at 8:23 PM

OT: Tarrant County (Fort Worth, Arlington, TEXAS) broke the all-time record for early voting, today … Over 30K, no party breakdown to share, yet.
pambi on October 22, 2012 at 8:02 PM

Awesome! Thanks for working too!

txhsmom on October 22, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Since I have 100.00 riding on the outcome, I would MUCH rather be on the 48% side.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:14 PM

That’s not all you have riding on the outcome, is it little clay boy?

Romney wins and I leave the site. Obama wins and you leave the site.

How that little girl? You aren’t a coward, so those terms should be fair.

gumbyandpokey on October 8, 2012 at 11:37 AM

I’ve been here since Michelle Malkin opened the door on day one and I’ll gladly accept your bet because I know no way in hell is America going to put up with 4 more years of Obama.

There. Now shut yer yap.

Marcus on October 8, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Flora Duh on October 22, 2012 at 8:23 PM

CBS: “the race is even among men – tied at 47 percent.”

Right.

forest on October 22, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Weasely Clark on BOR apologizing for Barky. 9/11 (the first) happened, Weasely, because your boss Bubba failed to pull the trigger on UBL. And he is arguing and filibustering with Bill. That’s a no-no.

Philly on October 22, 2012 at 8:23 PM

http://youtu.be/u2eojFZ0c20?t=20s
Not sure I did this right, let me know.
kcd on October 22, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Not sure what you’re trying to do there, but the “?t=20s” in the address tells the video to start at 20 seconds into the vid. Since it’s just over 30 seconds in total you might as well start it from the beginning.

whatcat on October 22, 2012 at 8:24 PM

If Obama didn’t have literally the best early voting GOTV in the history of American politics, then Romney’s position wouldn’t be that bad. However, he’s being swamped and won’t be able to make up the considerable early deficit.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Hi Greg, didn’t seen you poll trolling over at Ace’s, what happened?

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 22, 2012 at 8:24 PM

I’m not sure either candidate has the momentum.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:12 PM

You’ve got to be kidding. Even the polls you tout show clear movement toward Romney.

But I would rather be the incumbent. The Ohio advantage Obama has is too big to ignore. I don’t know the reason (auto bailout?), but that state refuses to budge from it’s 2 pt Obama lead.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Except in the Suffolk, PPP, Gravis, and Rasmussen polls.

If Obama didn’t have literally the best early voting GOTV in the history of American politics, then Romney’s position wouldn’t be that bad. However, he’s being swamped and won’t be able to make up the considerable early deficit.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:12 PM

You aren’t keeping up with the latest data. He has seriously cut in to Obama’s EV numbers. I posted a link above where you can look at the returns by county. You are basing your analysis on old polls (like PPP) that counted absentee ballot requests and even those were proven incorrect.

On October 13, Public Policy Polling (PPP) released an Ohio survey finding that a shocking 19% of Ohioans had already voted – and they voted for Obama by an overwhelming 76-24 margin over Mitt Romney. Not surprisingly, many of us “poll truthers” questioned the likelihood that almost 1.1 million voters had already cast ballots in Ohio in such a short period of time (there were a total of 5.7 million votes altogether in 2008). After all, that was about triple the 5-6% ballot cast rate shown by most counties at the time. But logic aside, if PPP’s figures were correct this would have meant that Obama had locked in about 823,000 votes, while Romney was limping along with just 259,000. Boom. Game over Republicans.

Overall, Obama was given a 51-46% lead over Romney, almost all exclusively as a result of the disproportionately pro-Obama early vote. This helped drive the media narrative about Obama’s “big lead” over Romney in Ohio and how effective the Democratic early voting machine was. Again, all of this ran contrary to actual, real evidence about ballots requested and returned. But hey, why let actual, real, reported numbers get in the way of a “poll” of 165 early voters? Besides, according to this poll Ohio was well on it’s way to having 100% turnout before election day. Why would this seem odd?

Fast-forward a week. On October 20th, PPP released a follow-up poll in Ohio that showed some odd data, especially if the poll taken a week earlier was also to be believed. Apparently, no one felt like voting early this week as the percentage of early voters in their poll only increased from 19% to 21%, a shocking drop off for such a highly competitive state. If the polls were right, we would have to believe that 1.1 million people voted in the first 12 days in Ohio, and then barely over 100K over the next 7 days. (And remember, we are the ones ridiculed for questioning all of this).

But here is where their scientific, indisputable, unquestionable data really gets interesting. Remember that 76-24% early vote lead Obama had last weekend? This week, that fell to 66-34%, a 20 point swing in Romney’s direction. And when you do the math, Obama’s “locked in” early vote dropped from 823,000 votes last weekend, to 790,020 this weekend. Romney went from 260,000 votes locked in to 407,000 over the same time. Remember, PPP was measuring votes that are already cast. These people can’t change their minds, so such an excuse doesn’t fly. But if we trust PPP, Romney not only got 100% of every vote cast over the last week, but another 30,000 people walked into their local voting location and changed their already cast ballots from Obama to Romney.

McCain won Ohio on election day. Obama won because of EV, but he doesn’t have the numbers that he did 4 years ago.

Resist We Much on October 22, 2012 at 8:24 PM

The CBS poll also has Obama winning indies. National poll average is Romney +8.5 or so

Garbage

Chuck Schick on October 22, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Voter contacts and door knocks, LOL. Talk about pointless and a waste of effort.

That means absolutely nothing when you have the Obama campaign and their vans and busses taking voters to the polls racking up huge margins in early voting. But, hey, the Romney campaign is calling people and knocking on their doors!

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:18 PM

).

Loool :) idiot, that’s coz obama voters are usuall the food tamp hordes and the welfare does, they have no transportation of their own, or they are too drugged or too drunk to drive,…most likely they don’t own cars. I have yet to see a conservative who doesn’t own at least one car :)…so pur side doesn’t need a ride to rhe poll, I can guarantee you, fhe travel in ty,e :)… Not by the bus load lol :)

jimver on October 22, 2012 at 8:24 PM

TXUS on October 22, 2012 at 8:23 PM

LOL! I’m all for anything that gets the left in that kind of hissy fit!

thatsafactjack on October 22, 2012 at 8:24 PM

It’s telling that here we are even willing to discuss openly about polls that are not entirely favorable to Romney.

While over there at DKos they don’t want to even mention the word “poll” for fear of causing mass suicides.

Gee, I wonder which side is ahead?

tkyang99 on October 22, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Bill is not letting Weasely lie. It is hilarious.

Philly on October 22, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Obamuh has given up on Grant Park, too. No big victory celebration is planned for Chicago on election night. Instead, Obamuh is apparently holding his EN activities at the isolated McCormick Place which is not easily accessible by the masses and is considered to be the perfect place for a concession speech. It’s a well-controlled area from which Obamuh and the Mooch can make a quick getaway to their Hyde Park home to sulk.

stukinIL4now on October 22, 2012 at 8:25 PM

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:18 PM

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1555537/posts

Cindy Munford on October 22, 2012 at 8:25 PM

LOLOLOL You can smell the fear in gumbyandpokey’s posts….I love it!!

The Notorious G.O.P on October 22, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Romney wins and I leave the site. Obama wins and you leave the site.
gumbyandpokey on October 8, 2012 at 11:37 AM

LOL, trolls gonna be outta here either way anyway.

whatcat on October 22, 2012 at 8:26 PM

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Ah, once again only seeing what you want to see, aren’t ya clay boy?

Flora Duh on October 22, 2012 at 8:26 PM

BTW, Obama leads Romney 48-46 in that CBS/NYT poll.

Are you guys going to get excited about being down 2 pts?!?!

gumbyandpokey

Obama up 2 in Colorado. Colorado is off the table.

gumbydonkey

lol….

I don’t know the reason (auto bailout?), but that state refuses to budge from it’s 2 pt Obama lead.

You might would have a point, if it were true.

If Obama didn’t have literally the best early voting GOTV in the history of American politics, then Romney’s position wouldn’t be that bad. However, he’s being swamped and won’t be able to make up the considerable early deficit.

gumbyandpokey

If all he can muster is at best a 2 point lead despite allegedly having the best GOTV in history, he’s screwed, lol.

xblade on October 22, 2012 at 8:26 PM

“The CBS poll also has Obama winning indies. National poll average is Romney +8.5 or so

Garbage

Chuck Schick on October 22, 2012 at 8:24 PM”

ABC/Wash Post poll has Romney only +3 with Indies, which won’t be good enough to win, imo.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Geez, Gen. Wesley Clark is going ape on BOR.

a capella on October 22, 2012 at 8:26 PM

wesley clark is an absolute idiot

cmsinaz on October 22, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Bob – “how would you handle Iran Governor Bush?”

Mitt – “for the fifth time my name is not Bush, Bob”

Slade73 on October 22, 2012 at 8:27 PM

I don’t think “indys” means what CBS thinks it means.

Rational Thought on October 22, 2012 at 8:27 PM

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Because I believe in presenting data to back up my assertions….

Eight years ago today Bush lead Kerry in the RCP average 48.4 to 46.0 (coincidentally that ended up being his margin of victory). Romney leads Obama 47.6 to 47.2. Whistle past the graveyard at your own peril.

alchemist19 on October 22, 2012 at 8:27 PM

I don’t think Wes understands that Benghazi is going to sink Barky. The economy and taxes are the big issues of this election, but Benghazi has turned off enough voters to be a big wedge.

Bill tried to explain that to him. All Weasel could do was hurl insults.

Philly on October 22, 2012 at 8:27 PM

Romney wins and I leave the site. Obama wins and you leave the site.
gumbyandpokey on October 8, 2012 at 11:37 AM

How about you leave the site right now?

Terrye on October 22, 2012 at 8:27 PM

“If all he can muster is at best a 2 point lead despite allegedly having the best GOTV in history, he’s screwed, lol.

xblade on October 22, 2012 at 8:26 PM”

Only here is a 2 pt lead for Obama good news for Romney.

I guess that’s what partisanship does to objectivity.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:28 PM

While over there at DKos they don’t want to even mention the word “poll” for fear of causing mass suicides.
tkyang99 on October 22, 2012 at 8:25 PM

I know I’m enjoying watching as the KosKids are suddenly obsessed with denying and unskewing polls.

whatcat on October 22, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Are you guys going to get excited about being down 2 pts?!?!

i’d get excited if you’d stop posting here

gerrym51 on October 22, 2012 at 8:29 PM

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:26 PM

No one cares what your opinion is, troll.

Didn’t you say that Obama would have a huge bounce from the jobs report?

Didn’t you say that Obama would have a bounce from the Biden debate?

Didn’t you say that Obama would have a bounce from the 2nd debate?

Didn’t you say that Gallup would be favoring Obama today?

wargamer6 on October 22, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Weasely Clark on BOR apologizing for Barky. 9/11 (the first) happened, Weasely, because your boss Bubba failed to pull the trigger on UBL. And he is arguing and filibustering with Bill. That’s a no-no.

Philly on October 22, 2012 at 8:23 PM

You beat me to it. I can’t watch this crap any more, as I already posted here last week I seriously hope there is a HUGE PURGE of the top military cadre starting with Chiefs of Staff. They are all socialists now and some are rabid liberals even.

Shame that the likes of Allen West are asked to leave the military when we most need them.

riddick on October 22, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Voter contacts and door knocks, LOL. Talk about pointless and a waste of effort.

That means absolutely nothing when you have the Obama campaign and their vans and busses taking voters to the polls racking up huge margins in early voting. But, hey, the Romney campaign is calling people and knocking on their doors!

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Once again for the reading comprehension impaired:

Ohio Absentee Ballot Requests

2008:

Total absentee ballot requests: 1,351,2226
Democrats: 445,525 (32.97%)
Republicans: 257,936 (19.09%)
Difference: 13.88%

2012:

Total absentee ballot requests: 1,047,928
Democrats: 305,670 (29.17%)
Republicans: 236,651 (22.58%)
Difference: 6.59%

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvEOdIaw0fPNdHVOZnFENDdDYVFTRi1UMlgxQ0F4OVE#gid=0

Resist We Much on October 22, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Whining and pining, little troll,
Fretting and worrying dismal poll.
Wither will you wander, do you know?
Champion fallen, down you go!

thatsafactjack on October 22, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Why would conservatives leave a conservative site… for a troll who’s on his way down?

thatsafactjack on October 22, 2012 at 8:30 PM

nervous nelly…

cripe where’s the beer???????

cmsinaz on October 22, 2012 at 8:30 PM

ABC/Wash Post poll has Romney only +3 with Indies, which won’t be good enough to win, imo.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Zzzzzzzzzzzzz……………

Chuck Schick on October 22, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Weasely Clark on BOR apologizing for Barky. 9/11 (the first) happened, Weasely, because your boss Bubba failed to pull the trigger on UBL. And he is arguing and filibustering with Bill. That’s a no-no.

Philly on October 22, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Yes, Weasely Clark on the BOR show. Another sign of slipping standards at Fox News. In a year or two they will be indistinguishable from the Communist News Network.

He did get his talking points across, in spite of BOR.

slickwillie2001 on October 22, 2012 at 8:30 PM

“Early Voting” is actually an unsanctioned activity otherwise known as “stacking the deck”.

Go to your local election officials and “allow” them to explain the process.

It is a travesty.

hillbillyjim on October 22, 2012 at 8:31 PM

“The CBS poll also has Obama winning indies. National poll average is Romney +8.5 or so

Garbage

Chuck Schick on October 22, 2012 at 8:24 PM”

ABC/Wash Post poll has Romney only +3 with Indies, which won’t be good enough to win, imo.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:26 PM

You are full of it..Poll after poll shows Romney winning Indies..The CBS poll is the exception and btw, the only reasons Obama won in 2008 was the indies and the lack of enthusiasm among conservatives…this time, Romney has both. So you can continue to delude yourself or you can face the fact: Obama is in trouble. Anything can happen, but right now it is not looking good for Obama.

Terrye on October 22, 2012 at 8:31 PM

MKH in da house

cmsinaz on October 22, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Romney wins and I leave the site. Obama wins and you leave the site.
gumbyandpokey on October 8, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Only 2 more weeks of your crap.

JPeterman on October 22, 2012 at 8:32 PM

ABC/Wash Post poll has Romney only +3 with Indies, which won’t be good enough to win, imo.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Obama won indies by 8. That’s an 11 point swing…an ABC/WP is the very low end of the spectrum.

Resist We Much on October 22, 2012 at 8:32 PM

nervous nelly…

cripe where’s the beer???????

cmsinaz on October 22, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Me too!!

CoffeeLover on October 22, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Mary Kute Ham on BOR!

ted c on October 22, 2012 at 8:32 PM

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:22 PM

You are selectively quoting NumbersMuncher again. Upthread I already posted this:

John McGuirk ‏@john_mcguirk

@NumbersMuncher Yeah, but the internals just look wrong in the context of every other poll. Just plain weird, in fact.

NumbersMuncher ‏@NumbersMuncher

And re: CBS poll. Yes, I think the crosstabs are screwy (gender gap/O winning indys/support by age/etc), but its still O’s best poll today.

INC on October 22, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Sorry…I suppose I should have put ‘Gump me and Poke me’s’ handle on that last post… oh, well… you all knew who I meant. lol!

thatsafactjack on October 22, 2012 at 8:33 PM

“https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvEOdIaw0fPNdHVOZnFENDdDYVFTRi1UMlgxQ0F4OVE#gid=0

Resist We Much on October 22, 2012 at 8:29 PM”

So Obama is winning absentees by roughly 7% and he’ll be way ahead on in-person early voting. If you think that’s a winning formula for Romney, you are in for a rude awakening.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:33 PM

give up on NC? and miss out on all of that great BBQ?

for shame

ted c on October 22, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Resist We Much on October 22, 2012 at 8:24 PM

You save me a lot of time – I can just ditto all your posts.

gophergirl on October 22, 2012 at 8:33 PM

‘Welfare dopes’
And
Travel in style that is…

jimver on October 22, 2012 at 8:33 PM

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Everything you say is a lie.

Didn’t you say that Obama would have a huge bounce from the jobs report?

Didn’t you say that Obama would have a bounce from the Biden debate?

Didn’t you say that Obama would have a bounce from the 2nd debate?

Didn’t you say that Gallup would be favoring Obama today?

wargamer6 on October 22, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Only 2 more weeks of your crap.

JPeterman on October 22, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Thank God!

gophergirl on October 22, 2012 at 8:34 PM

The CBS poll also has Obama winning indies. National poll average is Romney +8.5 or so

Garbage

Chuck Schick on October 22, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Don’t forget that pretty much all agreed that Hussein got badly beaten on all points in the last debate, handily, and yet somehow was declared the “winner” by virtue of his mere breathing there, I guess.

Even in rabid Mexico North these days, aka GULAG, aka CA, many of those who happily voted for Hussein last time are now saying they will not. My brother-in-law, for example. Shame it took him so long to understand the simple stuff like communism, redistribution and high taxes.

Any poll by any “alphabet entity” these days nothing but wishful thinking.

riddick on October 22, 2012 at 8:35 PM

How about you leave the site right now?

Terrye on October 22, 2012 at 8:27 PM

No, T, we want the gimp here for after the election too, just to witness the self-flagellation, nervous breakdown or sooiecide.

TXUS on October 22, 2012 at 8:35 PM

These polls are meaningless. Its about individual states. Ohio is the only thing that matters. Romeny loses Ohio, he”s toast.

rickyricardo on October 22, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Thank God!

gophergirl on October 22, 2012 at 8:34 PM

You’re welcome!
Love, Obama

/snark

Liam on October 22, 2012 at 8:36 PM

ted c on October 22, 2012 at 8:33 PM

bullocks bbq in durham…most delicious

cmsinaz on October 22, 2012 at 8:36 PM

give up on NC? and miss out on all of that great BBQ?

for shame

ted c on October 22, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Now, that’s funny.

Fallon on October 22, 2012 at 8:36 PM

I like turtles.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

AND…

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I question the timing.

…….and stuff.

hillbillyjim on October 22, 2012 at 8:37 PM

FWIW, essentially zero Obama signs even in the Charlotte area.

Didn’t they have a multimillion dollar convention or something here?

rogerb on October 22, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Only here is a 2 pt lead for Obama good news for Romney.

I guess that’s what partisanship does to objectivity.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:28 PM

ABC/WaPo:

Obama: 49

Romney 48

Last week…

ABC/WaPo:

Obama: 49

Romney: 46

Only with RuPoll does a stagnant number for Obama (again, he’s unable to break 50%) and a 2 point jump for Romney spell good news for Obama.

I guess that’s what partisanship does to objectivity.

Resist We Much on October 22, 2012 at 8:37 PM

“Ask Osama if I’m a BFD”

Slade73 on October 22, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Ahh, GumbeyandDumby, picking out the worst possible poll while ignoring the mounting evidence.

You know what it reminds me of, desperate Republicans from 2008, that kept pointing as singular polls that showed McCain competitive when the vast majority of polls showed him losing handily.

Basically, we’ve got numerous polls out here today that show Romney ahead or tied. We have one or two polls that show Obama holding onto a narrow lead, but these same pollsters either dramatically overshot Obama’s margin of victory in 2008, or oversampled democrats to a degree no sane political analyst would accept. Average them up, and Romney’s ahead, adjust the crazy polls to an even half sane turnout and Romney’s still ahead, in fact there is almost no conceivable way you could look at these numbers and not conclude that Romney wasn’t ahead by at least a few points.

and we keep hearing silly little rationalizations, excuses that get more absurd and implausible every week. Here’s an idea for the O bots out there, how about instead of denying that you’re guy is in trouble, you actually accept it do something about it? The longer you sit there in denial the less time you have to actually do anything.

Not that it’ll help, this late in a campaign its hard to change peoples minds. Undecideds are dwindling every day and are pre-disposed against Obama in the first place, and Obama has more persuadable support that Romney.

Not that Obama couldn’t turn it around, but thankfully last minute turn arounds are extraordinarily rare in elections. When they do happen though, they generally favor the challenger instead.

WolvenOne on October 22, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Good Luck Gov. Romney….Don’t forget Fast & Furious as well as Bengazi

workingclass artist on October 22, 2012 at 8:38 PM

ABC/Wash Post poll has Romney only +3 with Indies, which won’t be good enough to win, imo.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:26 PM

mitchellvii ‏@mitchellvii

@NumbersMuncher @baseballcrank Up only 3 with Indies? That is slightly below the other polls showing Romney +10 and better.

The Common Guy The Common Guy ‏@commonguymd

@NumbersMuncher @baseballcrank another number that doesn’t seem to match most other polls.

INC on October 22, 2012 at 8:38 PM

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Baghdad Bob, is that you?

desertliving on October 22, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Good Lord:

Wesley Clark saying that the problem with Romney is that he doesn’t have foreign policy experince.

Excuse me General: your candidate didn’t have any experience at all 4 years ago!!! He barely had any experience in the Senate!!! Heck, for as much as she was painted as unquialified for the role, Palin had more experince to be president than Obama had!!! Wasn’t exactly the huge lack of any foreign policy credibility the reason that Biden became the VP?

ptcamn on October 22, 2012 at 8:39 PM

“https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvEOdIaw0fPNdHVOZnFENDdDYVFTRi1UMlgxQ0F4OVE#gid=0

Resist We Much on October 22, 2012 at 8:29 PM”

So Obama is winning absentees by roughly 7% and he’ll be way ahead on in-person early voting. If you think that’s a winning formula for Romney, you are in for a rude awakening.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:33 PM

No, you’re the idiot who thinks that if the obama campaign got a whole load of food stampers and welfare queens and put them on buses, our side can’t matchthat by simply driving to the polls in their own cars or something….you’re the delusional one who thinks that responsible people need to be bused in to vote….is ths
Is how you voted in WI??? Were you on one of hose buses lol :)…well, that’s a rhetorical question…you were probably the one who was herding in the Obama sheeple, oups, I mean the historic voting masses, part of the historic Obama GOTV machine :)

jimver on October 22, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Juan says it’s not true

Slade73 on October 22, 2012 at 8:39 PM

No, T, we want the gimp here for after the election too, just to witness the self-flagellation, nervous breakdown or sooiecide.

TXUS on October 22, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Are you kidding? He’ll bug us for another year with a vote-by-vote ‘analysis’ telling us why he was right all along. And quoting new ‘polls’ to back him up if even he has to get surveys done at grade schools.

Liam on October 22, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Here’s lookin’ at ya, kid.

Dumby and Jokey.

We’ll be gracious after your narcissist-in-chief gets un-elected. You’re gonna love it.

Or not.

hillbillyjim on October 22, 2012 at 8:40 PM

The leftists are very nervous about Benghazi…Mitt just needs to be Mitt…let the chips fall where they may.

d1carter on October 22, 2012 at 8:40 PM

If you think that’s a winning formula for Romney, you are in for a rude awakening.

gumbyandpokey on October 22, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Who’s the governor of your home state little clay boy?

Flora Duh on October 22, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Whenever Gumby quotes a poll, go to:

https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher

for full quotes and analyses.

INC on October 22, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Obamuh has given up on Grant Park, too. No big victory celebration is planned for Chicago on election night. Instead, Obamuh is apparently holding his EN activities at the isolated McCormick Place which is not easily accessible by the masses and is considered to be the perfect place for a concession speech. It’s a well-controlled area from which Obamuh and the Mooch can make a quick getaway to their Hyde Park home to sulk.

stukinIL4now on October 22, 2012 at 8:25 PM

While I agree with you on the venue opinion, I disagree that it isn’t easily acceptable. McCormack Place is a premier convention facility and is easily accessible by train, auto, and walking!

I’m hoping he downsizes to the Palmer House!

herm2416 on October 22, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Yes, Weasely Clark on the BOR show. Another sign of slipping standards at Fox News. In a year or two they will be indistinguishable from the Communist News Network.

He did get his talking points across, in spite of BOR.

slickwillie2001 on October 22, 2012 at 8:30 PM

When idiots calling GOP nazis are INVITED to Fox News you know the place is doomed. Not just BOR, but pretty much everyone there save for some women with balls the place is nothing but RINOs masquerading as “conservatives”. Starting with Ailes for allowing this and extending his contract today.

riddick on October 22, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Excuse me General: your candidate didn’t have any experience at all 4 years ago!!! He barely had any experience in the Senate!!! Heck, for as much as she was painted as unquialified for the role, Palin had more experince to be president than Obama had!!! Wasn’t exactly the huge lack of any foreign policy credibility the reason that Biden became the VP?

ptcamn on October 22, 2012 at 8:39 PM

And even with his supposed amazing 3.5 years of foreign policy experience and he still screws up Libya.

MobileVideoEngineer on October 22, 2012 at 8:43 PM

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