When desperation strikes incumbents

posted at 8:31 am on October 20, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

It’s been a while since we’ve had an incumbent President lose an election.  In fact, it was 20 years ago, when George H. W. Bush lost in a three-way fight to Bill Clinton.  What made that election remarkable was that Bush had enjoyed some of the best-ever job approval ratings of any modern American President just a little over a year earlier, into the 80s — unthinkable these days for anyone, Republican or Democrat.  Bush, a decorated veteran of World War II and a longtime player in diplomacy and national security, lost the election to an upstart Governor when the economy turned somewhat sour.

I recall the moment when I realized for the first time — not feared, but realized — that Bush would lose the election.  Bush was campaigning in Michigan at the end of October, trying to whip some energy back into his campaign in the home stretch, a task that would fall far short just a few days later.  Then-Governor John Engler told the Warren, MI crowd that the Bush campaign was “hot” and the Democrats “dead in the water,” which was merely the kind of fantasy all campaigns spin toward the end.

Bush then spoke, and went after Clinton and Al Gore in a personal, demeaning way I’d not heard from the President before then:

At a midday GOP rally at Macomb Community College, the president unleashed a rhetorical fusillade on Bill Clinton and running mate Sen. Albert Gore Jr., attacking their fitness for office, their character and charging, “My dog Millie knows more about foreign policy than these two bozos.”

In particular, Bush targeted Gore, whom he now calls “Ozone Man,” or just plain “Ozone.” “You know why I call him Ozone Man?” Bush said. “This guy is so far out in the environmental extreme, we’ll be up to our neck in owls and outta work for every American. He is way out, far out, man.”

When I heard that, I thought to myself, “What President talks like that?”  Part of the advantage the office gives an incumbent is its gravitas.  Bush’s own history as a diplomat, intelligence executive, and war hero gave him plenty more of that.  Bush abandoned that in the final week in schoolyard name-calling. That’s not why Bush lost the election, of course.  It was, however, the moment that I knew he’d lost it — and was pretty sure he knew he was losing, too.

Keep that in mind when you hear Barack Obama on the stump talking about “Romnesia.”  Those elementary-school attacks using people’s names are something one usually farms out to surrogates (and is pretty lame regardless).  That comes with the grasping of “binders,” literally grasping in Joe Biden’s case (and literally literally, not Bidenesque “literally”), as a major campaign theme. When the President himself starts using attacks like this, it speaks to his desperation more than his opponent’s positions.  It adds more heft to the argument that the first debate wasn’t a fluke, but demonstrated an actual gap in presidential stature between the two men.


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Resist We Much – The Obama administration has surprised me repeatedly with a level of cluelessness that approaches that of a Python “Dead Parrot” skit.

How stupid was it to send Susan Rice to the Sunday Talk shows with a lie?

How stupid was it for President Obama to claim he knew, and declared the Benghazi attack as terrorism in his 12 Oct Rose garden statement during the second debate? So then he sent Rice out with a story he knew was false?

Tape MSNBC election night. It will be even better than the Walker recall or the first debate.

IcePilot on October 20, 2012 at 1:17 PM

I would be astonished if they had any dirt on Romney. If they have anything, it’ll be on Ryan. And I don’t think that folks are very interested in playing those kinds of games this year, after the last four that we’ve had. Short of there being a dead girl or live boy involved, it won’t save Obama.

ghostwriter on October 20, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Yeah, it’s bad news for Ryan. The rumor is that he once used a dull broadhead on one of his arrows…

climbnjump on October 20, 2012 at 1:19 PM

That pic is worthy thousand words. Such idiocy I can’t even fathom from those poor misguided Wimminz.

Brat on October 20, 2012 at 1:14 PM

In: Prog woe-is-me-men wearing cardboard binders*

Out: Prog wimminiz screaming while wearing big, fuzzy, Code-Pink vajayjays

* It’s ironic. During the Great Depression, men used to wear cardboard sandwich boards asking for a job. Today, idiotic women are wearing cardboard sammich boards denouncing a man for giving women jobs.

Resist We Much on October 20, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Update on:How to take on the Obama Enemy media & Win: http://paratisiusa.blogspot.com/2012/09/an-open-letter-to-those-who-should-know.html?spref=tw

paratisi on October 20, 2012 at 11:10 AM

Ugh, thanks, but am I wrong to get annoyed with even well-intentioned endless spamming?

Midas on October 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Tape MSNBC election night. It will be even better than the Walker recall or the first debate.

IcePilot on October 20, 2012 at 1:17 PM

You’re not kidding.

Speaking of Monty Python, a little apropos “chamber” music…

How Sweet to be an Idiot

Resist We Much on October 20, 2012 at 1:22 PM

“And so we took a concerted effort to go out and find women who had backgrounds that could be qualified to become members of our cabinet. I went to a number of women’s groups and said, ‘Can you help us find folks?’ And they brought us whole binders full of women.”

Superb reading

Schadenfreude on October 20, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Yet for all the HORROR of that remark.. none of those womens groups were offended when they gave Mitt’s office those binders of HIGHLY qualified women….

you’d think they too would have seen the epic failure in such requests..

but no, they failed the .. sigh,… sisters..

Are we really at the point, where liberals are this far gone, they make a hysterical outcry over a comment as innocent as saying.. “the sky is blue”?

The modern democrat party has finally gone completely insane in their desperation to prop up their FAILED historic president.

mark81150 on October 20, 2012 at 1:22 PM

In: Prog woe-is-me-men wearing cardboard binders*

Out: Prog wimminiz screaming while wearing big, fuzzy, Code-Pink vajayjays

* It’s ironic. During the Great Depression, men used to wear cardboard sandwich boards asking for a job. Today, idiotic women are wearing cardboard sammich boards denouncing a man for giving women jobs.

Resist We Much on October 20, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Guess they’re angry at him for not sticking with the wildly under qualified.,, and unqualified women that Obama seems to favor.. I mean.. why vett?

Obama never has..

Remember what a vetting disaster his first days were?

These people couldn’t even figure out WHY anyone would want to vett a job applicant..

Like speaking ancient Greek to them.

mark81150 on October 20, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Well Ann is doing her part to help women out! Ann is a beautiful, caring, thoughtful lady and will make a first class First Lady, IMO.

http://twitchy.com/2012/10/20/pics-ann-romney-walks-in-breast-cancer-5k-in-orlando/
L

letget on October 20, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Tape MSNBC election night. It will be even better than the Walker recall or the first debate.

IcePilot on October 20, 2012 at 1:17 PM

You’re not kidding.

Speaking of Monty Python, a little apropos “chamber” music…

How Sweet to be an Idiot

Resist We Much on October 20, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Oh I plan to pack in some popcorn….

Some Sierra Mist (can’t drink, meds..) maybe some fresh coffee later on..

possibly even… some take out..

KFC.. or pizza.. I prefer a decent salad if they have one, some pizza places do.. I’m not a pasta fan. Subs are great though..

Oh Hell…. I’ll just grab some STEAKS….and a salad..

I expect a massive teary eyed meltdown or dozen at MSNBC.. ought to be a great night.

mark81150 on October 20, 2012 at 1:32 PM

cane_loader on October 20, 2012 at 1:16 PM

I am not as sure as you are about killings but this is the same as the OJ trial. No logic just racial solidarity. I don’t think it is even about what Obama will do for them. It is about blacks being inferior as leaders, competent, etc which you noted.

Conan on October 20, 2012 at 1:33 PM

BuzzFeedAndrew: Gallup today unchanged: Romney 51% – Obama 45% with LV.

Resist We Much on October 20, 2012 at 1:34 PM

http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obama-cuts-deal-with-iran-over-nukes/

letget on October 20, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Good link…thank you.

From the article:

The agreement calls for Iran to announce a temporary halt to partial uranium enrichment after which the U.S. will remove many of its sanctions, including those on the Iranian central bank,

And the agreement would also guarantee Iran’s right to “peaceful” uranium enrichment….

And the Iranian regime’s delegate was urged to understand that if Iran does not stand by Obama, Israel will attack Iran.

lynncgb on October 20, 2012 at 1:35 PM

In particular, Bush targeted Gore, whom he now calls “Ozone Man,” or just plain “Ozone.” “You know why I call him Ozone Man?” Bush said. “This guy is so far out in the environmental extreme, we’ll be up to our neck in owls and outta work for every American. He is way out, far out, man.”

President Bush, the elder, was right. Fools made this hot air bufoon rich, from/about nothing at all.

——-
RWM, g & p will esplode over this.

Schadenfreude on October 20, 2012 at 1:39 PM

BuzzFeedAndrew: Gallup today unchanged: Romney 51% – Obama 45% with LV.

Resist We Much on October 20, 2012 at 1:34 PM

I wonder if Gallup is doing payback for Axelrod telling them how to poll. It would make sense to tweak their model AGAINST Obama.

The people at Gallup may have decided to help themselves get rid of Obama and Axelrod.

No one knows better than Gallup the panic they are causing the left which falls apart at the sight of these numbers. Axelrod is no doubt furious.

Conan on October 20, 2012 at 1:40 PM

There should be no doubt in anyone’s mind that Alred is cheap and stupid enough to be sucked into some delusional Obama scheme. You have to wonder though, if the ridicule already being directed at her before she even gets the words out might give her a clue that she’s lost all credibility.

Since it’s so obvious that the Dems have massive rebuilding to do after the election, would you think that they’d stop rummaging around at the bottom of The Acme Exploding Cigar Co. box? If the game is lost, retreat, lick the wounds and try to pull things together. Stop making it worse.

When the DNC has to borrow $15 million from the Bank of America
onlineanalyst on October 20, 2012 at 10:56 AM

And if that’s not enough, two weeks after the loan, BOA announced they are laying off 16,000 people.

timmytee on October 20, 2012 at 1:43 PM

It’s been a while since we’ve had an incumbent President lose an election.

It’s been a while since we had such an ass for a President. No wait, we’ve never before had such an ass for a President!

VorDaj on October 20, 2012 at 1:43 PM

Bill Clinton: Obama would win in landslide if Americans weren’t so ‘impatient’ for economy to be ‘hunky-dory again.’ ow.ly/eD7gU

Resist We Much on October 20, 2012 at 1:47 PM

I think Bubba is covertly nailing Scooter in public for HIll having to take the heat over BenghaziGate.

kingsjester on October 20, 2012 at 1:51 PM

I recall the moment when I realized for the first time — not feared, but realized — that Bush would lose the election. Bush was campaigning in Michigan at the end of October,

Funny thing, I knew it MUCH earlier.

I knew he would lose the Election the day he signed the Luxury Tax!

jaydee_007 on October 20, 2012 at 1:52 PM

I’ve been telling friends that President Obama is like Wile E. Coyote, past the edge of the cliff and falling …. but without the brains to hold up a sign saying “Oops”.

IcePilot on October 20, 2012 at 2:02 PM

strong effort on gays and women…
 
urban elitist on October 20, 2012 at 9:14 AM

 
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
Bishop on October 20, 2012 at 11:12 AM

 
I missed the bolded part the first time.
 
Strong effort = participation trophies.
 
Thanks again.

rogerb on October 20, 2012 at 2:03 PM

For the umpteenth time, Ross Perot didn’t beat Bush. Clinton beat Bush.

Much of the Perot support was union Dem types. They weren’t voting for Bush. Bush was going to lose anyway. Anything else is just revisionist history.

Moesart on October 20, 2012 at 2:15 PM

At a midday GOP rally at Macomb Community College, the president unleashed a rhetorical fusillade on Bill Clinton and running mate Sen. Albert Gore Jr., attacking their fitness for office, their character and charging, “My dog Millie knows more about foreign policy than these two bozos.”

In particular, Bush targeted Gore, whom he now calls “Ozone Man,” or just plain “Ozone.” “You know why I call him Ozone Man?” Bush said. “This guy is so far out in the environmental extreme, we’ll be up to our neck in owls and outta work for every American. He is way out, far out, man.”

And H.W. Bush is proven to be correct.

SouthernGent on October 20, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Purely anecdotal, but quite heartening: a good friend of mine spent this past week at a large Trade Show in Florida. People from all over they country were there. At the Banquet the other night they did a straw poll, and the result was

Romney / Ryan 565 votes
Obama / Biden 15 votes

And the 15 voting for Obama would not stand up and reveal themselves. Heh.

Go poke your eye out, Gumby.

Naturally Curly on October 20, 2012 at 2:20 PM

One thing for certain..

The day Romney takes the oath..

Suddenly the MSM will rediscover..
1. the homeless living in cardboard boxes
2. the extremely high gas prices they ignore today, but will demand Mitt fix immediately..
3. The injured warrior and VA issues they can’t notice when a democrat is president.. they’ll diss Mitt about.
4. The non military service of Mitt will be mentioned each and every time he uses the military in pursuit of a national goal, where they never mentioned Obama’s non service.
5. Sanctions by Obama were a good good method of controlling Iran.. sanctions by Mitt will “starve Iranian children” and hurt the little people”..
6. Military action by Mitt will be condemned in advance by the democrats and MSM, as unilateral, no matter how many allies sign on…
7. The US troops under Mitt will again be relagated to babykillers and casual murders are they were under Bush.. The only righteous US soldier, seems to be one with a democrat CIC… nothing else factors in.. and they’ll run arab “atrocity” videos.. as they did under Bush.. but not Obama.
8. The MSM will return to their “citizens of the world” mantra, instead of American journalists… after all, they only serve democrats..
9. Any family member of Mitt will be used as a buffoon for the liberals amusement even if they have to chop, crop or alter video to do it…. Obama’s family were not only off limits, (aunt. half brother) but hidden away like state secrets..
10. Any whistle blower under Mitt will be played up as a heroic champion of the people…. while the fast and furious whistle blowers were treated as traiters and persecuted by the MSM…

11…

oh you can recall the drill..

any and all actions by a GOP president are suspect and condemed in advance of proof of wrong doing..

and and all actions by a democrat are given a pass and the widest benefit of a doubt.. always..

This is why no matter what happens on election day.. we need to shame these fifth columnists like the vermin they are.. We aren’t a one party state, unless you watch the MSM, who seems to think we are.

mark81150 on October 20, 2012 at 2:21 PM

mark81150 on October 20, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Yes, you’re right. That will all happen. But, the night of November 6th happens first…and, it will be so sweet.

kingsjester on October 20, 2012 at 2:31 PM

In a lot of ways this is the best Ohio news yet:

PPP Obama 49-48 (was 51-45 in their poll last week)

They claim Obama has a 66-34 lead among early voters and that 21% have voted already. The hard data seems to contradict both these numbers AND they say Romney is up 52-44 with people who haven’t voted. This is terrific news and it doesn’t even take into account a possible Dem skew on turnout.

RepublicanInMA on October 20, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Nothing new here. Remember lipstick on a pig? This guy was always a vulgar, aggressive bully thug. Only the first time – for some reason – “they” did not notice.

American Dream 246 on October 20, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Barky and Bite Me are pretty much down to “vote for us because he is black and prove you’re not a racist tea-bagger”…
They’ve really got nothing left…

Strike Hornet on October 20, 2012 at 2:49 PM

It’s true that it’s been awhile since we turned an incumbent out of office, but on the other hand, of the last six incumbents before Obama(Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton and Bush 43), half of them were defeated.

Only once in our history have we had three consecutive presidents elected to two terms each, and for that we have to go back almost 200 years to Jefferson/Madison/Monroe. There was a very long stretch where every man elected in a year ending in zero died in office that made it impossible for there to be three consecutive two-term presidents, but still, that hasn’t happened for quite awhile.

JenWestin on October 20, 2012 at 2:51 PM

mark81150 on October 20, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Yes, you’re right. That will all happen. But, the night of November 6th happens first…and, it will be so sweet.

kingsjester on October 20, 2012 at 2:31 PM

It will won’t it?

The sight of Matthews spittle flecking detonation on national TV alone will be almost be worth all the nasty ugly things he’s said, and we’ve put up with..

Just to see what the reaction of the enemy media will be, when they find out, again, they are not the mainstream, and never have been.

I won’t gloat,… much.. mostly, I’ll be glad the nightmare of left wing statist rule will be pushed back for at least 4 years..and if Carter is any lesson, maybe much longer.

mark81150 on October 20, 2012 at 2:57 PM

In a lot of ways this is the best Ohio news yet:

PPP Obama 49-48 (was 51-45 in their poll last week)

They claim Obama has a 66-34 lead among early voters and that 21% have voted already. The hard data seems to contradict both these numbers AND they say Romney is up 52-44 with people who haven’t voted. This is terrific news and it doesn’t even take into account a possible Dem skew on turnout.

RepublicanInMA on October 20, 2012 at 2:41 PM

That’s what I’m hearing, that they’re pretty close, and the numbers of GOP voters is increasing..

I’m not sure they can count that all those democrats are voting for Obama, I’m hearing alot about dems crossing over to vote for Mitt… How likely would a democrat be, to tell a pollster outside a polling place, surrounded by other democrats, that he crossed over to Mitt?

I don’t think these kinds of polls count for much.

mark81150 on October 20, 2012 at 3:01 PM

For all practical purposes, this will be over next week. After Monday night’s debate, people in many states will start heading to the ballot boxes in droves. An example is Oregon which is a completely “vote by mail” state. In-state non-absentee ballots went out yesterday. Those will be arriving starting today. My guess is most will wait until after Monday night’s debate and then those ballots will begin flooding in.

What happens each day after Monday will make less difference in the actual vote totals. The most important polls will be the ones showing how things look on Tuesday morning after the debate.

crosspatch on October 20, 2012 at 3:02 PM

… strong effort on gays and women…

urban elitist on October 20, 2012 at 9:14 AM

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Bishop on October 20, 2012 at 11:12 AM

I missed the bolded part the first time.

Strong effort = participation trophies.

Thanks again.

rogerb on October 20, 2012 at 2:03 PM

….I think urban defeatist has had a learning disability all of his life…so I give him credit for trying to participate!

KOOLAID2 on October 20, 2012 at 3:03 PM

commie trolls must be worried that Axeldouche won’t be able to pay them this week with the measly $10 million loan from the evil bankers…
Hey, Gumby, UE, Bayum, Lowereastside, Libfree…don’t despair, maybe Barky and Bite Me can borrow from China to pay you trolls until this all ends badly for you next week! ;)
Chin up trolls, you still got “binders, lady parts and Big Bird” going for ya!!!”
LOL

Strike Hornet on October 20, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Strike Hornet on October 20, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Maybe they get vouchers this week?

Kenosha Kid on October 20, 2012 at 3:23 PM

The Boss

Schadenfreude on October 20, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Idiotic high-mindedness especially when so much is on the line. Emblematic of the squish ‘just another election’ mindset. Screw that. That’s why the Right loses marginal contests so often. So many of their ‘wizards of smart’ lack the testicular fortitude to WIN. It’s why the Left wins so often with the lamest lies, because they can maintain a unity of purpose and drive – even on a basis of fraud – to push thru. While folks like northeastern / ivy league RINOs and online pundits just twist their skirt hems.
JUST WIN, BABY.

It’s why the strong GOP women stand out so much and make the simpering ‘elites’ cringe. Palin, Backman, Coulter et al have more balls than most of the GOP leadership. And those ‘men’ know it.

A pox on ‘the high road’.

rayra on October 20, 2012 at 3:43 PM

The proper use of the high ground is to better enable the raining of death and destruction upon your enemies. Not to stand about and sniff the thin air of moral rectitude.

rayra on October 20, 2012 at 3:45 PM

It’s also why so many people on the left AND the right hated Breitbart. He made them look pathetically weak by comparison and they knew it.

/You can be forgiven for being wrong but you will never be forgiven for being right.

rayra on October 20, 2012 at 3:48 PM

I never understood that Meg Whitman incident. If it actually happen, why wasn’t the maid sued and prosecuted for fraud and identity theft?

Nutstuyu on October 20, 2012 at 11:58 AM

She was promised some sort of a deal by allred, at least this was my understanding..it’s california, you know…most big cities offer sanctuary to the likes of that bimbo trotted by allred to destroy Meg’s chances….

jimver on October 20, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Tape MSNBC election night. It will be even better than the Walker recall or the first debate.

IcePilot on October 20, 2012 at 1:17 PM

I’m warming up for Nov 6th with this:

The Most Disappointed Barrett Supporter In Wisconsin

scrubjay on October 20, 2012 at 4:21 PM

The proper use of the high ground is to better enable the raining of death and destruction upon your enemies. Not to stand about and sniff the thin air of moral rectitude.

rayra on October 20, 2012 at 3:45 PM

With today’s leftists…

You can put moral rectitude in one hand and crap in the other…

petefrt on October 20, 2012 at 4:25 PM

I’ve been telling friends that President Obama is like Wile E. Coyote, past the edge of the cliff and falling …. but without the brains to hold up a sign saying “Oops”.

IcePilot on October 20, 2012 at 2:02 PM

He’s holding up a sign alright, except it says “Winning” as he plummets to the ground.

mpthompson on October 20, 2012 at 4:39 PM

George H. W. Bush would not have lost if Ross Perot would have stayed out of the election. There was nothing remarkable about the fact the George H. W. Bush lost considering that the conservative vote was split.

Axion on October 20, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Obama, borrowed 15 million from BOA?

Conservative4ev on October 20, 2012 at 4:46 PM

What do we think of Gloria Allred’s threat? Think there could be anything in his past that could derail Mitt? Certainly not a sex scandal. Not no way; not no how. Is this going to be when they finally play the Mormon card? They’ll trot out some woman who says Mitt, as a church leader, ordered her to stay with her abusive husband or abort her illegitimate baby some such thing? If it is a simple he said/she said, I think an October dirty trick like this has the potential to swing the election to Romney in a big, big way. I bet Zero’s team is huddled up right now with Allred weighing the pros and cons. They have to figure out if he’s really, really losing, in which case they’ll go for it, or if they have a slim chance left, in which case they won’t. That’s my humble opinion.

Rational Thought on October 20, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Looks like Allred’s “client” will likely be related to this story about Romney, which went up on Kos yesterday. It’s got abortion, race, wymmen’s stuff — a liberal wet dream. What scum those people are. But, um, note the lack of interest in the comments from Kos readers. Ha!

Rational Thought on October 20, 2012 at 5:04 PM

So I am not the only one who sees Obama going down the Bush 92 path here. That campaign self-destructed in the autumn. I still remember seeing Mary Matalin in CNN literally cringe as she delivered absurd HW Bush talking points, especially the bizarre and frequent references to Harry Truman. I was a 20yo liberal Democrat back then who was big for Clinton. Even then, I could smell the desperation, the flailing, the inevitability of defeat. God, I hope history is repeating itself.

TheLastBrainLeft on October 20, 2012 at 5:06 PM

“He regaled me with stories of his sister and her retarded child and what a blessing the child had been to the family,” Sheldon wrote of the incident. “He told me that ‘as your bishop, my concern is with the child.’”

Retarded child?

Ooooh, that’ll go over well. Let’s make Gloria call the child EXACTLY what her client called it. Make the oh-so-tolerant definers of words and what is politically correct choke on the politically incorrect “retarded child” bone.

Resist We Much on October 20, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Retarded child?

Ooooh, that’ll go over well. Let’s make Gloria call the child EXACTLY what her client called it. Make the oh-so-tolerant definers of words and what is politically correct choke on the politically incorrect “retarded child” bone.

Resist We Much on October 20, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Yeah. If this is Allred’s October surprise, it sounds like her client is not going to be the kind of person voters feel much sympathy for. She’s an O-bot, yappin’ for whatever money the dems are offering her.

Rational Thought on October 20, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Whenever a you say “retard,” little Trig Palin cries.
 
urban elitist on October 13, 2012 at 2:26 PM

rogerb on October 20, 2012 at 5:20 PM

George H. W. Bush would not have lost if Ross Perot would have stayed out of the election. There was nothing remarkable about the fact the George H. W. Bush lost considering that the conservative vote was split.

Axion on October 20, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Perot was just one of several reasons Pappy lost in 1992. Don’t forget that infamous “read my lips” remark.

But one factor many overlook is that the Democrat Media censored the economic news coming out of the Fed. That news showed that the economic recovery had actually started in March of 1991, or 18 months before the election.

They finally got around to admitting that they failed to report that stat. In 1999.

Del Dolemonte on October 20, 2012 at 5:23 PM

When I heard that, I thought to myself, “What President talks like that?” Part of the advantage the office gives an incumbent is its gravitas. Bush’s own history as a diplomat, intelligence executive, and war hero gave him plenty more of that. Bush abandoned that in the final week in schoolyard name-calling. That’s not why Bush lost the election, of course. It was, however, the moment that I knew he’d lost it — and was pretty sure he knew he was losing, too.

You were under a major illusion as I was. This “gravitas” of which you speak evaporated loooong ago.

Dr. ZhivBlago on October 20, 2012 at 5:24 PM

I’ve been telling friends that President Obama is like Wile E. Coyote, past the edge of the cliff and falling …. but without the brains to hold up a sign saying “Oops”.

IcePilot on October 20, 2012 at 2:02 PM

He’s holding up a sign alright, except it says “Winning” as he plummets to the ground.

mpthompson on October 20, 2012 at 4:39 PM

And as he’s free-falling, all we’ll hear is this:

“…Alllll Bush’s Faultttttttttttttttt……….”

Del Dolemonte on October 20, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Whenever a you say “retard,” little Trig Palin cries.

urban elitist on October 13, 2012 at 2:26 PM

rogerb on October 20, 2012 at 5:20 PM

And…..?

urban elitist on October 20, 2012 at 5:33 PM

And if all else fails, there’s this news from The Hill:

International monitors at US polling places draw criticism

…Liberal-leaning civil rights groups met with representatives from the OSCE this week to raise their fears about what they say are systematic efforts to suppress minority voters likely to vote for President Obama.

The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, the NAACP and the ACLU, among other groups, warned this month in a letter to Daan Everts, a senior official with OSCE, of “a coordinated political effort to disenfranchise millions of Americans — particularly traditionally disenfranchised groups like minorities.”

The request for foreign monitoring of election sites drew a strong rebuke from Catherine Engelbrecht, founder and president of True the Vote, a conservative-leaning group seeking to crack down on election fraud.

“These activist groups sought assistance not from American sources, but from the United Nations,” she said in a statement to The Hill. “The United Nations has no jurisdiction over American elections.”…

NightmareOnKStreet on October 20, 2012 at 5:34 PM

The request for foreign monitoring of election sites drew a strong rebuke from Catherine Engelbrecht, founder and president of True the Vote, a conservative-leaning group seeking to crack down on election fraud.

This is how it [voter harrassment] works today: In an ostensible hunt for voter fraud, a Tea Party group, True the Vote, descends on a largely minority precinct and combs the registration records for the slightest misspelling or address error. It uses this information to challenge voters at the polls, and though almost every challenge is baseless, the arguments and delays frustrate those in line and reduce turnout

urban elitist on October 20, 2012 at 5:42 PM

McCain had a higher percentage of the national vote than the average of all GOP congressional candidates combined.
He did better than the party did.
McCain ran a good campaign.

itsnotaboutme

That’s like crowing over being the tallest midget. Just because his campaign sucked less than theirs doesn’t mean it didn’t suck.

xblade on October 20, 2012 at 5:48 PM

This is how it [voter harrassment] works today: In an ostensible hunt for voter fraud, a Tea Party group, True the Vote, descends on a largely minority precinct and combs the registration records for the slightest misspelling or address error. It uses this information to challenge voters at the polls, and though almost every challenge is baseless, the arguments and delays frustrate those in line and reduce turnout

urbane effetist on October 20, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Citing an Editorial from the NY Times? They have just about as much interest in election integrity as they do in journalistic integrity.

Just curious-can you cite the specific portion of the United Nations Charter that gives them the jurisdiction to monitor United States elections?

Del Dolemonte on October 20, 2012 at 5:51 PM

The next election maybe the Dems will have to reverse their strategy-Like they may run with a celebrity woman–Whoppee Goldberg in her Nun garb singing Latin (for the immigrant vote?)in hopes to capture the Latino, feminist, Black. Jewish vote?

Don L on October 20, 2012 at 5:52 PM

“The United Nations has no jurisdiction over American elections.”…

NightmareOnKStreet on October 20, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Bad precedent. Very bad. Needs to be nipped in the bud. Now.

petefrt on October 20, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Just curious-can you cite the specific portion of the United Nations Charter that gives them the jurisdiction to monitor United States elections?

Del Dolemonte on October 20, 2012 at 5:51 PM

There’s this from same article i linked above @ 5:34 PM:

…“They [will] observe the overall election process, not just the ballot casting,” said Giovanna Maiola, spokeswoman for OSCE. “They are focusing on a number of areas on the state level, including the legal system, election administration, the campaign, the campaign financing [and] new voting technologies used in the different states.”

In a follow-up e-mail, Maiola noted that it is a limited election-observation mission. She said “the OSCE has regularly been invited to observe elections in the United States, in line with OSCE commitments.”

Access of international observers during voting is explicitly allowed in some states such as Missouri, South Dakota, North Dakota and New Mexico.

“State law does not generally provide for international observers,” Maiola said. “However, through our contacts at state and county level in certain states, we managed to secure invitations at local level and we have taken up the offer to observe. Where this is not possible, we will respect the state regulation on this matter and will not observe in precincts on Election Day.”…

The OSCE has 56 participating states from Europe, Central Asia and North America, including the United States and Canada. It has assessed elections in the United States since 2002…

Say it with me now… WHAT COULD GO WRONG?

NightmareOnKStreet on October 20, 2012 at 6:16 PM

Wow the media pulling out all stops that Gallup is an outlier even though its been 4 days in a row. So much so they want to try to discredit it on the front page of yahoo.

That means its real, why would they waist efforts to try to discredit it ahaha hahahahaha

Conservative4ev on October 20, 2012 at 6:17 PM

Bad precedent. Very bad. Needs to be nipped in the bud. Now.

petefrt on October 20, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Agree 100%

NightmareOnKStreet on October 20, 2012 at 6:19 PM

McCain had a higher percentage of the national vote than the average of all GOP congressional candidates combined.
He did better than the party did.
McCain ran a good campaign.

McCain had only one thing going for him,
he had a vibrant newstart that people were enthused by on his ticket

audiotom on October 20, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Just curious-can you cite the specific portion of the United Nations Charter that gives them the jurisdiction to monitor United States elections?

Del Dolemonte on October 20, 2012 at 5:51 PM

It would be nice of you to actually attempt to take on the facts in the Times article — to refute the notion that True the Vote targets minority voting districts for harrassment.

As for the UN –no one is giving them any jurisdiction in the U.S. It is a good, media-friendly way of underscoring the fact that Republican legislatures now behave like banana reopublic dictators in trying to repress the opposition vote, though. One can only assume that RNC operatives will be interning in Chavez political organization by the time 2016 rolls around.

urban elitist on October 20, 2012 at 6:33 PM

Old/busted:
 

Or is this sort of third grade name calling all you’ve got?
 
How Palin-like.
 
urban elitist on February 23, 2012 at 7:42 AM

 
New later-this-year hotness:
 

Whenever a you say “retard,” little Trig Palin cries.
 
urban elitist on October 13, 2012 at 2:26 PM

 
rogerb on October 20, 2012 at 5:20 PM

 
And…..?
 
urban elitist on October 20, 2012 at 5:33 PM

 

 
Neat how it even manages to involve the same family.
 
(Thanks for the “And…?” one, btw.)

rogerb on October 20, 2012 at 6:36 PM

I’ve seen two examples of the O campaign’s ration just in the past 6 days.

First, last Sunday afternoon, an older lady (who by appearances had to be in her mid 60′s if not early 70′s at least) rang my doorbell. This was around 4:30 pm Sunday afternooon…a time many begin reserving for family time and/or quiet time to get ready and gather reserves for the coming week, so an unexpected doorbell ring (a rare enough event nowadays anyway) left me feeling uneasy about the lady on the other side of the eyehole.

I open the door and say “How can help you, ma’am?”
She starts with “Hi, I’m with the Obama campaign and…”
The “and…” indicating I cut her off.

My eyes narrow and I very sharply say “Ma’am…you’ll get NO HELP from me. I’m going the other way.”
She kind of shakes her head, gives up without another word, and descends my front stairwell to try another house.

What bothered me was, what era were we in? In the age of the smartphone, how desperate must the O camp be, to send people in person to go door to door? When was the last era when this was commonplace? Sometime before FDR??? How many years must it have been that Presidential campagins actually sent their lackeys out to ring up people’s homes door to door? I was born in 1960 and even in the pre-internet era, during the era of TV’s youth, nobody I can recall as a boy or as a teen ever came knocking on our front door asking for campaign help. It was always telephone calls or TV/Radio ads.

The more I thought about the stones it took for whomever this lady’s regional campaign warden to send her door to door in my neighborhood, the madder I got, particularly during the beginning of Sunday evening downtime. The absolute LAST time of the week I’d welcome an intrusion into my private time.

Unless I simply happen to be one of the lucky few who’ve never had a political knock at my front door during the course of my lifetime and it’s actually something that happens every 4 years, I’m astonished at the level of desperation it takes to send folks out door to door like the old days.

On to the 2nd incident: I was driving down a major rush hour thoroughfare just this past Thursday afternoon and saw a guy in the median strip with an anti-Romney/Pro-Obama billboard. It was hot, and the guy was soon to be rained on by an approaching storm. And I thought to myself, I’ve never seen anybody wearing a political billboard before.

Two weird O-related incidents in one week. So, am I correct in concluding they’re desperate?
Or, are both these things commonplace every 4 years?

Yiwen on October 20, 2012 at 6:46 PM

rogerb on October 20, 2012 at 6:36 PM

And…

I’m still unsure of your point. I don’t think you have one.

urban elitist on October 20, 2012 at 6:52 PM

Tape MSNBC election night. It will be even better than the Walker recall or the first debate.

IcePilot on October 20, 2012 at 1:17 PM

You’re not kidding.

Speaking of Monty Python, a little apropos “chamber” music…

How Sweet to be an Idiot

Resist We Much on October 20, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Oh I plan to pack in some popcorn….

Some Sierra Mist (can’t drink, meds..) maybe some fresh coffee later on..

possibly even… some take out..

KFC.. or pizza.. I prefer a decent salad if they have one, some pizza places do.. I’m not a pasta fan. Subs are great though..

Oh Hell…. I’ll just grab some STEAKS….and a salad..

I expect a massive teary eyed meltdown or dozen at MSNBC.. ought to be a great night.

mark81150 on October 20, 2012 at 1:32 PM

I guess I will have to tape FOX and MSNBC — I will be serving as an election judge, won’t see any of the fun live.

Dasher on October 20, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Yiwen on October 20, 2012 at 6:46 PM

Let me know if you find anyone with distain for the ground game.

Some neighborhoods are busier than they ever were.

Mormons go door to door looking for converts.

IlikedAUH2O on October 20, 2012 at 7:01 PM

Yiwen on October 20, 2012 at 6:46 PM

In this area the GOP has many people going door to door to hand out literature and answer questions if they have any. Most of the time it is just a quick hello … here is some literature, some times you get to talk at length with them. And of course many are not home.

Dasher on October 20, 2012 at 7:04 PM

Two weird O-related incidents in one week. So, am I correct in concluding they’re desperate?
Or, are both these things commonplace every 4 years?

Yiwen on October 20, 2012 at 6:46 PM

Not so weird. Two female Hillary supporters came to my door at a similar time during the 08 primary and asked to speak with Mrs. Dog.

dogsoldier on October 20, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Bush, a decorated veteran of World War II and a longtime player in diplomacy and national security, lost the election to an upstart Governor when the economy turned somewhat sour.

Somewhat sour? It was the worst economy in fifty years!!

Bill Clinton would never lie!!

People forget over the years just how ridiculously hyperbolic Clinton was about what was never more than a very minor recession.

tom on October 20, 2012 at 7:30 PM

I spend a lot of time in the area, and my general feeling is that enthusiasm for Obama seems to be much lower than in ’08. Even in Maryland, I see much fewer Obama bumper stickers than last time around (not that Romney is going to carry Maryland). However, it could just be wishful thinking on my part…

ghostwriter on October 20, 2012 at 11:47 AM

It could be, but I think it’s clear to most observers that there is nothing like the ’08 Obama wave coming this time around. Here in the People’s Republic of Alexandria, Obama signs/stickers outnumbered McCain by, oh, I’d say something like 20 to 1, 4 years ago. This year, it’s Obama by about 60-40. An amazing turnaround, and one of the reasons why I believed Virginia would go to Romney before the polls started moving in that direction.

IamDA on October 20, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Yiwen on October 20, 2012 at 6:46 PM

I too resent the intrusion of door-to-door activists, ESPECIALLY those of the radical left persuasion. Were it to happen to me, my objection would be so vociferous that they’d hesitate before knocking on another stranger’s door again.

petefrt on October 20, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Whatever Gloria Alred has – it isn’t on Obama.

HondaV65

No shizznit, Sherlock. Did it take you all day to figure that out?

xblade on October 20, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Today, idiotic women are wearing cardboard sammich boards denouncing a man for giving women jobs.

Resist We Much on October 20, 2012 at 1:19 PM

.
OMG – you’re becoming way to adept at using American lingo.

ExpressoBold on October 20, 2012 at 8:29 PM

“too adept,” I mean. I’ll blame it on the ale. Yeah! That’s the ticket!

ExpressoBold on October 20, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Whatever Gloria Alred has – it isn’t on Obama.

HondaV65

I say bring it on. It’ll help pack the Romney landslide. We’ve already seen that tired crap. Remember McCain’s alleged affair… Herman Cain’s mistress… Meg Whitman’s abused maid? The scandal & race cards have reached their credibility limit. Please call customer service…

Let’s face it, the Dems could produce a video of Romney screwing the neighbor’s cat & we’ll have a good laugh on our way to vote Romney-Ryan. We’re immune.

NightmareOnKStreet on October 20, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Yiwen on October 20, 2012 at 6:46 PM

In my little corner of western PA, I’ve seen not one, but several, homemade “OBAMA” signs competing for space among the mostly U.S. House and Senate and Romney/Ryan signs.

They’re very amateurish — the first one I saw had silver spray paint on a black garbage bag affixed to the metal supports that all political signs now have. Just today I spied two more, this time with gold spray paint, but with the same amateurish bubble-type lettering.

Also today, I saw a photographer friend of mine at the grocery; he lives a couple streets away and he remarked that he liked the assortment of signs in my yard — Romney/Ryan, Tom Smith for Senate, etc. — and he laughed as he asked if I had seen all the homemade Obama signs around. I said I had, and told him the address of our local GOP victory center so he could get some R&R signs of his own. I’m seeing more and more of those in my neighbors’ yards, and what’s surprising to me is that I see them in yards where I had not seen them four years ago for anybody.

PatriotGal2257 on October 20, 2012 at 8:44 PM

It is a good, media-friendly way of underscoring the fact that Republican legislatures now behave like banana reopublic dictators in trying to repress the opposition vote, though. One can only assume that RNC operatives will be interning in Chavez political organization by the time 2016 rolls around.

urban elitist on October 20, 2012 at 6:33 PM

So, you’re assuming that everyone who doesn’t have an ID is naturally going to vote Democratic. Nice. So, where do you get your ‘facts’ from?

chewmeister on October 20, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Hey, neighbor, I live in western PA too. Even the hardware store emails Obama jokes to its customers. Around here, Obama… if not hated… is one big joke.

petefrt on October 20, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Hey, neighbor, I live in western PA too. Even the hardware store emails Obama jokes to its customers. Around here, Obama… if not hated… is one big joke.

petefrt on October 20, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Heh. I’m in Eastern PA and outside of the Philly area, Obama signs are pretty scarce.

chewmeister on October 20, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Hey, neighbor, I live in western PA too. Even the hardware store emails Obama jokes to its customers. Around here, Obama… if not hated… is one big joke.

petefrt on October 20, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Howdy, neighbor! LOL … cool that the hardware store emails Obama jokes. That’s great!

Depending who I talk to, I get pretty solid GOP attitudes from some people or if the person admits voting for Obama in 2008, they tend to soft pedal it and classify it as a mistake made in the heat of the moment.

PatriotGal2257 on October 20, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Calm down, combover.

Who are these people, in their own little lives?

mickytx on October 20, 2012 at 9:55 PM

It is a good, media-friendly way of underscoring the fact that Republican legislatures now behave like banana reopublic dictators in trying to repress the opposition vote, though.

Is that what you call it when the opposition party is sick to their eyeballs with you democrats using voter fraud as a major factor in your camapigns now?

Get F’ing serious here, there were several HUNDRED democrats arrested, and prosecuted for voter fraud in the 08 election across the country.. 15 here.. 30 there, it adds up..

and you vote thieving frauds have the gall to call our attempts to clean up your mess “voter suppression”.. like your aids in the MSM calling Florida for Gore in 2000, while the polls were still open?.. Like theur twisting folding and contorting every ballot they counted.. even in front of Bob Dole.. trying to knock the right chads out?

Like that?

Screw your outrage..

we’re sick of all of the democrats banana republic ways.. and now.. you thieves want international observers….

Why.. so a Brit socialist can scream every challenge is illegitimate.. even when the name is I M Bored?.. and no ID?…

But hey, that guy in the VFW cap sure looks shady to them.. better haul him to a back room for interrogation, huh Hugo?

One can only assume that RNC operatives will be interning in Chavez political organization by the time 2016 rolls around.

urban elitist on October 20, 2012 at 6:33 PM

Such stupidly obvious projection, Hell Carter always certifies Hugo as a legal participant, and a righteous dude…. Chavez has ENDORSED Obama..

Look choad, he’s YOUR friend, and your lame accusations sound markedly like Senator Edwards denials.. and are as credible..

The history of the democrat party is the history of a criminal enterprise.. The Klan was your enforcement arm.. Jim Crowe was a democrat policy.. The 64 civil rights act only passed with 94% of the GOP senators, and 82% of our House members.. and would have FAILED but for the intense republican support..

You have no damned idea what the Hell you’re talking about.

You’re just doing more covering for the crooked party you love so damn much.. and happily smearing people of integrity that your “activists” would consider a liability.

You can’t be a partisan liberal, and not endorse the lie which is your party. The radical rabidly partisan left is a rolling disgrace, a vile collection of the One party state thugs, and the unionista freaks.. we’re sick of you doing your best to rig elections… You really think anyone believes you people anymore?.. ACORNS hundreds of thousands of bogus registration cards.. nite-stick wielding thugs at polling places.. You canvassers are so sloppy they don’t even try to hide the illegal acts they commit..

Grow some shame..

80% plus.. FAVOR ID laws, including democrats..

find another smear..

This one’s worn out and you’re only being laughed at. Admitted election fraud, got Franken his stolen senate seat.. got JFK elected.. got LBJ in the Senate.. leading to his presidency..

Imagine the 60′s without Vietnam.. democrat election fraud gave us that, when they gave us LBJ..

Our history could have much less bloody, but for the crooked party of county thieves..

and yes.. if that OFFENDS you, then you can see how we feel about the corruption YOU foist on us every 4 years.. get over it.

mark81150 on October 20, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Thankfully no night stick weilding thugs here – we are a conceal carry state – one of those jerks tries to start something with a stick we will follow the advice of our current president and bring somthing else to the game.

Zomcon JEM on October 20, 2012 at 10:55 PM

urban elitist on October 20, 2012 at 5:42 PM

An opinion-page piece in the NYT with no byline. Surprise, surprise. And who would put their name to this yellow trash, since it is utterly fact-free. Nice try. You, of course would rather have a George Soros-backed “independent” foreign group monitoring U.S. elections.

It’s fine that we all, including yourself, know that you’re shameless. But nobody is buying the idea that this equates to intimidation, much less fraud. The laws in each state are clear about what constitutes a challengeable voter registration record. Validating those records is 100% legal, acceptable, and to prevent fraud, civically responsible. See, that’s how society works.

Freelancer on October 21, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Thanks for underlining how effective the President’s message is proving to be. Labeling it “desperation” is pretty much the Hot Air equivalent of saying “ouch.”

Desperation
is more like election fraud or bullying your employees.

Constantine on October 21, 2012 at 1:14 AM

Tape MSNBC election night. It will be even better than the Walker recall or the first debate.

IcePilot on October 20, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Mitt is no Scott Walker.

Scott Walker is a Tea Party candidate.

Mitt Romney is a nominal Republican. Really a Democrat pretending to be a Republican. He was 15 points down in WI when Scott Walker won.

Mitt will most likely lose. Just like every other liberal Republican since Nixon I hate we have another Ford, Dole, McCain like loser. Any Conservative could have beaten Obama but not the father of Obama Care Mitt Romney.

Steveangell on October 21, 2012 at 1:18 AM

Del Dolemonte on October 20, 2012 at 5:51 PM

It would be nice of you to actually attempt to take on the facts

urbane effetist on October 20, 2012 at 6:33 PM

Alinsky again?

So 9/10.

-2

Del Dolemonte on October 21, 2012 at 1:34 AM

Constantine on October 21, 2012 at 1:14 AM

Dante called. He’s on the way to the bar to pick you up and bring you back to the basement.

Del Dolemonte on October 21, 2012 at 1:37 AM

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