Romney hits Obama on “math,” deficits

posted at 9:21 am on October 17, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Fox News has one of Mitt Romney’s better moment of the debate last night, although Romney certainly had a number of good responses in the townhall debate.  Barack Obama had attacked Romney’s tax plan as a $5 trillion tax hike, a figure that even his deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter admitted a couple of weeks ago was false.  Romney defended his plan by going on offense, asking the audience whether a President who ran trillion-dollar-plus deficits each of his four year in office has any business talking about plans “not adding up”:


Mitt Romney took on President Obama on the issue of balancing the budget, saying that he has the experience needed to correct failed policies of the current administration.

“I was someone who ran businesses for 25 years and balanced the budget … I ran the Olympics and balanced the budget … I ran the state of Massachusetts [...] and balanced the budget,” he said, adding, “If we’re talking about math that doesn’t add up, how about $4 trillion in deficits over the past four years, $5 trillion … that’s math that doesn’t add up.”

I’ve been waiting for this counterattack for some time. It takes a lot of chutzpah for a President who rang up nearly $5 trillion in deficits to claim that their analysis of an opponent’s tax plan has some hidden insight into irresponsibility. This gets back to my argument earlier that Obama is still running a campaign that believes it can run solely as the anti-Romney. That strategy no longer “adds up” after the first debate, but Team Obama doesn’t seem to have gotten the message.


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All that matters is who won the debate and who lost.

And Obama won ever post-debate poll.

Mitt CHOKED.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Obama has never ran a campaign where he had to put forth specifics. It’s Hope and Change and not being the other person.

ButterflyDragon on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Something about the way Romney said “Well…” at 1:04… I liked that.

Gingotts on October 17, 2012 at 9:25 AM

I’ve been waiting for this counterattack for some time. It takes a lot of chutzpah for a President who rang up nearly $5 trillion in deficits to claim that their analysis of an opponent’s tax plan has some hidden insight into irresponsibility.

But Ed, that’s only because Obama “inherited” these deficits and they could be wiped out overnight if those wascally Republicans allowed him to jack up taxes on the evil millionaires and billionaires.

Doughboy on October 17, 2012 at 9:25 AM

Yes, this was a good moment for him. Again, on substance, Romney won going away. People judge on the spectacle, though.

changer1701 on October 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM

All that matters is who won the debate and who lost.

And Obama won ever post-debate poll.

Mitt CHOKED.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

LOL

If the sitting president is talking about dead Americans in Libya due to the fact his administration refused extra security, then he’s not winning.

ButterflyDragon on October 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM

I think the Crowley/Libya stunt will open up a huge can of worms for Team SCOAMF. Since the next debate is about foreign policy, I expect Mitt will seal the deal and utterly destroy this president over his failure and subsequent cover-up. If he does, I really cannot see SCOAMF coming back from that.

Bottom line is Mitt must seal the deal and go over around and through Schieffer at all costs.

Rixon on October 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM

One of the best parts of the debate for Romeny—

When democrat plant Candy Crowley asks Mr. Romney a hypothetical about “What if your tax plan doesn’t add up” I was waiting for Mitt to answer the question as it was asked, and I was cringing.

Then he smacked it back at her by saying: “Of course it adds up” and went on the offensive. And then I realized it wasn’t john McCain in the debate this time.

dirtseller on October 17, 2012 at 9:27 AM

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Says the Obama-fellating sh*t-for-brains who doesn’t know how to read the internals.

swinia sutki on October 17, 2012 at 9:28 AM

Math is hard to those who cannot add 1 + 1 and come up with figures less than a trillion.

ajacksonian on October 17, 2012 at 9:28 AM

Spot on Ed….even some lib talking heads said dear leader needed to to talk about the next 4 yrs….only bashing mitt ain’t gonna cut it

cmsinaz on October 17, 2012 at 9:28 AM

Everybody knows math is racist.

Brat on October 17, 2012 at 9:28 AM

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

LOLLERCOPTERS.

Abby Adams on October 17, 2012 at 9:28 AM

Obama hiding behind Candy’s skirt all night long. She had to bail him out and toss him a life line on so many occasions.

Obama may have picked up a very narrow ‘win’ on style, but he got thumped soundly on the issues in poll after poll after poll.

gatorboy on October 17, 2012 at 9:28 AM

Did it look like Crowley had a list of softball question plants in the audience and went to them when Obama needed a life line—or was that just me?

dirtseller on October 17, 2012 at 9:30 AM

The thing that caught my ear in that clip as Candy saying, “…but I will get run out of town…” Judging by the almost universal condemnation of her performance last night, those words could be prophetic.

backwoods conservative on October 17, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Seems we need wait for 3-4 days and see how polls rate the candidates.

tomg51 on October 17, 2012 at 9:30 AM

What Mitt said is why he won on substance in CBS post debate poll.

BroncosRock on October 17, 2012 at 9:31 AM

Romney won going away. Obama appealed to the radical left with his aggressiveness but he had no answers and no vision and that turned off everyone else. The fact is he cannot run from his failed first term and things Re not getting better.. Romney will continue to pull away. Obama is toast at this point.

Ellis on October 17, 2012 at 9:31 AM

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Ahahahahahahahaha….I just doubled my Romney holdings on InTrade…Romney’s going to crush little Barry…

thedevilinside on October 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM

All that matters is who won the debate and who lost.

And Obama won ever post-debate poll.

Mitt CHOKED.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Hogwash. Mitt didn’t choke and Obama won only narrowly on debating points. Furthermore, Obama was aided by his stage partner, Crowley. Romney won on every issue of substance and the polls and focus groups bear that out. Don’t confuse blowhard noise, obnoxious behavior and hyperbole with substance.

rplat on October 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Most of the post debate polling had it at a draw. I didn’t see a draw, I saw an angry, petulant, out of ideas president losing to a guy he doesn’t take seriously.
Obama still doesn’t get that you can’t beat something with nothing, which he is trying to do.
Hope he likes that free mansion in Hawaii he’s retiring to.

Curmudgeon on October 17, 2012 at 9:33 AM

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Yet every focus group assembled by the networks have Romney winning and making the best impression. Not to mention, the underlying questions on leadersip and the economy went Romney.

milemarker2020 on October 17, 2012 at 9:33 AM

All Obama had to do was show up and keep his eyes open to do better than he did 2 weeks ago. On pure facts about where we are in this country, Obama got trounced. And, good ole Candy didn’t do the prez any favors by interjecting her self into the debate. It just keeps the Benghazi issue front and center for a couple of more news cycles.

Static21 on October 17, 2012 at 9:34 AM

Obama is toast at this point.

Ellis on October 17, 2012 at 9:31 AM

You hear that Gumby?

Poll that.

Electrongod on October 17, 2012 at 9:34 AM

All that matters is who won the debate and who lost.

And Obama won ever post-debate poll.

Mitt CHOKED.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Yeah Mitt choked so hard that he said that high gas prices were a sign of a good economy… wait…

MobileVideoEngineer on October 17, 2012 at 9:34 AM

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

The Road Song of the Bandar-Log

Here we go in a flung festoon,
Half-way up to the jealous moon!
Don’t you envy our pranceful bands?
Don’t you wish you had extra hands?
Wouldn’t you like if your tails were–so–
Curved in the shape of a Cupid’s bow?
Now you’re angry, but–never mind,
Brother, thy tail hangs down behind!

Here we sit in a branchy row,
Thinking of beautiful things we know;
Dreaming of deeds that we mean to do,
All complete, in a minute or two–
Something noble and wise and good,
Done by merely wishing we could.
We’ve forgotten, but–never mind,
Brother, thy tail hangs down behind!

All the talk we ever have heard
Uttered by bat or beast or bird–
Hide or fin or scale or feather–
Jabber it quickly and all together!
Excellent! Wonderful! Once again!

Now we are talking just like men!
Let’s pretend we are … never mind,
Brother, thy tail hangs down behind!
This is the way of the Monkey-kind.

Then join our leaping lines that scumfish through the pines,
That rocket by where, light and high, the wild grape swings.
By the rubbish in our wake, and the noble noise we make,
Be sure, be sure, we’re going to do some splendid things!

itsspideyman on October 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Sure he did little boy.

wargamer6 on October 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM

All that matters is who won the debate and who lost.

And Obama won ever post-debate poll.

Mitt CHOKED.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Hogwash. Mitt didn’t choke and Obama won only narrowly on debating points. Furthermore, Obama was aided by his stage partner, Crowley. Romney won on every issue of substance and the polls and focus groups bear that out. Don’t confuse blowhard noise, obnoxious behavior and hyperbole with substance.

rplat on October 17, 2012 at 9:36 AM

I’m a little sick of hearing all these talking heads complain about how “uncivilized” the debate was, “too acrimonious”, etc.. Obama was out to prove what a tough guy he was from the get go; He was rude as hell and if Romney had just sat back and was “polite”, Obama and Crowdy would have steamrolled him all night. It was Obama who looked like the bully on stage and it’s going to hurt him with his precious “women’s vote”.

BettyRuth on October 17, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Agree rixon cuz you know bob will be helping out dear leader as well

cmsinaz on October 17, 2012 at 9:36 AM

All that matters is who won the debate and who lost.

And Obama won ever post-debate poll.

Mitt CHOKED.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Romney, by far, wasn’t my FIRST choice to be the Republican presidential nominee. However, I can say the man didn’t choke if he managed, at minimum, a “push.” I’m still trying to find a poll that reflects your assertion that Mr. Obama did so well.

It isn’t there.

Running around the blogosphere screaming “My man won” doesn’t change the outcome. If anything, it demonstrates your inability to show any objectiveness on the matter.

Turtle317 on October 17, 2012 at 9:36 AM

rplat on October 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM

I heard somewhere that Romney’s debate opponent is supposed to be referred to as Crowbama from now on.

Another instance of 0bama hiding behind a woman.

cozmo on October 17, 2012 at 9:37 AM

You see how that fat ass Candy Crowley jumped in to save Obama when Romney was on a roll. That was a complete demolition right there. You can see the guy in the back shake his head, and laugh when Romney broke that down. It clicked in his brain, right there…

That’s why all the polls agreed that Romney won the debate on the issues.

Chudi on October 17, 2012 at 9:37 AM

This gets back to my argument earlier that Obama is still running a campaign that believes it can run solely as the anti-Romney. That strategy no longer “adds up” after the first debate, but Team Obama doesn’t seem to have gotten the message.

The rat-eared wonder had a window where it could be anti-Romney but that time has passed and was absolutely killed by the Denver debate. What voters are looking for now is what Obama would do with a second term. And saving Big Bird is not what they are looking for.

Happy Nomad on October 17, 2012 at 9:37 AM

The whole whizzzing match about “I said it was terror.” “No you didn’t”, is beside the point imo. Why was there no protection for the ambassador? What was he doing at a safe house, why was he there in the first place?

Mimzey on October 17, 2012 at 9:37 AM

All that matters is who won the debate and who lost.

And Obama won ever post-debate poll.

Mitt CHOKED.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

If I were you u I wouldn’t mention ghe word ‘choke’ :)

jimver on October 17, 2012 at 9:37 AM

Just want to get something out there, did the Obama administration deny former Mossad chief Dagan entry to the US for emergency operation ? Apparently he had to go elsewhere and now his safety is compromised.

runner on October 17, 2012 at 9:38 AM

Five stages of grief:

1) Denial-”I’ve got this in the bag. The people love me and I’m bullet Proof. I’m The One. Oprah said so.

2) Anger-”All this guy does is lie. And don’t even think about questioning my political motive regarding Libya.

3)Bargaining-”If you re-elect me and give me 4 more years, I’ll fix it. I promise”

4)Depression-”Geez, you mean I could lose this to a guy that is so uncool, he goes to church every Sunday”.

5)Acceptance-”You know Michele, maybe taking a few years off will do us some good. Recharge our batteries and play a little golf. Besides, Hawaii is beautiful”

dirtseller on October 17, 2012 at 9:41 AM

Well Candy was right about one thing. She said she would get run out of town if she didn’t control Mitt. Those were her instructions from the Left at all costs.

txmomof6 on October 17, 2012 at 9:41 AM

All that matters is who won the debate and who lost.

And Obama won ever post-debate poll.

Mitt CHOKED.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

The rat-eared wonder won every post-debate poll? Really?

Prove it. Because I’m seeing the exact opposite. They are calling it a draw because the rat-eared wonder actually tried to defend his record of failure.

Happy Nomad on October 17, 2012 at 9:42 AM

Well Candy was right about one thing. She said she would get run out of town if she didn’t control Mitt. Those were her instructions from the Left at all costs.

txmomof6 on October 17, 2012 at 9:41 AM

I’m only surprised she didn’t moderate the debate while sitting in the rat-eared wonder’s lap. Clearly a partisan whore.

Happy Nomad on October 17, 2012 at 9:43 AM

Mitt CHOKED.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

^^^This is all I heard from my liberal 20-something female colleagues.

However, the only thing they recall about the debate was something about Romney and ‘Binders.’

I missed the first half of the debate. Given the demographic of the above mentioned folks, this Binder-issue must be about Lady Parts. Yes??? Help me out here.

bettycooper on October 17, 2012 at 9:43 AM

The whole whizzzing match about “I said it was terror.” “No you didn’t”, is beside the point imo. Why was there no protection for the ambassador? What was he doing at a safe house, why was he there in the first place?

Mimzey on October 17, 2012 at 9:37 AM

He wasn’t at the safe house when he died, he was in a safe room in the consulate compound. but you are right on the rest of the questions, and probably this is the whole point of this video/terror attack obfuscation, to distract from the really important questions. What the heck was he doing in Benghazi on 9/11?

jimver on October 17, 2012 at 9:43 AM

The whole whizzzing match about “I said it was terror.” “No you didn’t”, is beside the point imo. Why was there no protection for the ambassador? What was he doing at a safe house, why was he there in the first place?

Mimzey on October 17, 2012 at 9:37 AM

Exactly, and why did the WH do nothing to intervene in real time when they knew it was going on??? The President went to sleep.

txmomof6 on October 17, 2012 at 9:43 AM

dirtseller on October 17, 2012 at 9:41 AM

I think Obama is stuck on stage 2. That usually means suicide at stage 4.

Some people can’t deal with reality one small bit.

Turtle317 on October 17, 2012 at 9:44 AM

cmsinaz on October 17, 2012 at 9:36 AM

If anything, Schieffer is about as hard left as you can get. The folksy, Andy Griffith twang doesn’t hide that at all. If this debate format is like the first, I think Mitt can seal the deal.

And Obama really shot himself in the foot by taking responsibility/blame/whatever for Benghazi. It let’s Mitt counter with all the speeches for weeks on end blaming the video. Couple this with the fact that Crowley admitted in essence that she was wrong and it puts the administrations Libya story on the front burner (NY Times notwithstanding).

The jugular is exposed, here. Will Mitt go for it? He had better.

And lastly, not altogether unrelated, no more of these debates at universities and in liberal bastions. And let’s get some people like Brit Hume in the mix. And the fault for bending over on this during every damned election is the Republican establishment’s alone. Sheesh.

Rixon on October 17, 2012 at 9:44 AM

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

How long before your stimulus funded progressive trolling scholarship runs out?

No matter.

If you believe your own words you’re stuck in a bubble and you refuse to leave the “safety” of it Eventually, you run out of oxygen and your brain malfunctions – a stage I think we are witnessing with every one of your posts.

I’ll sit back and watch you implode.

VibrioCocci on October 17, 2012 at 9:44 AM

Bottom line is Mitt must seal the deal and go over around and through Schieffer at all costs.

Rixon on October 17, 2012 at 9:26 AM

Several months ago, maybe longer, Schieffer had a widely replayed interview with Obama or one an Obama supporter in which Schieffer ultimately came down on camera saying, “Is that really all you have?” It was classic, but I can’t remember the issue, and I can’t remember who he interviewed.

If possible, Romney ought to try to weave that into an early response and then keep harping on it all night long.

From my standpoint, although the questions were clearly slanted, I’m just thankful that Romney didn’t have to answer the question from the tearful homosexual about why Mitt hates gay people.

BuckeyeSam on October 17, 2012 at 9:45 AM

What the heck was he doing in Benghazi on 9/11?

jimver on October 17, 2012 at 9:43 AM

Well we know he was meeting with the Turkish ambassador until an hour before the attack. And what has Turkey done lately that is in the news you might ask??? Hmmm.

txmomof6 on October 17, 2012 at 9:45 AM

Obama might do a better job if he debates the Mitt that is on stage instead of the Mitt in Obama Campaign ads.

Electrongod on October 17, 2012 at 9:46 AM

Everytime I hear Obama or one of his minions call for more specificity from Mitt Romney, I recall this

Douglas Elmendorf, the director of the Congressional Budget Office, told the House Budget Committee this morning that his office was unable to estimate the long-term viability of the “budget framework” President Obama outlined in his April 13 budget speech.

“We don’t estimate speeches,” said Elmendorf. “We need much more specificity than was provided in that speech for us to do our analysis.”

That wasn’t a campaign stop…that was supposed to be Obama doing the job of President. You want 4 more years of that? I didn’t think so.

CitizenEgg on October 17, 2012 at 9:47 AM

Mitt CHOKED.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

On Mama Crowley’s ham-fisted sammich. And the internals on who won the debate show a clear win on every key issue for Romney. Even Luntz’s focus group – all former Obama supporters in ’08 – were ripping him to shreds.

You are in a world of denial and cruising for a world of hurt com Election Day. And you don’t see it.

Pitiful, really.

Rixon on October 17, 2012 at 9:47 AM

Brat: Everybody knows math is racist.

Fling “dog whistle” meme in 4… 3… 2…

See also the enthnomathematics .

Terp Mole on October 17, 2012 at 9:48 AM

Did it look like Crowley had a list of softball question plants in the audience and went to them when Obama needed a life line—or was that just me?

dirtseller on October 17, 2012 at 9:30

That’s exactly what she did! Obama may not have learned what the questions were prior to the debate, (but I bet he did) She gave Obama ridiculously easy softballs and he STILL couldn’t, or wouldn’t answer them. She specifically chose questions for Romney that she hoped would trip him up. She’s a nasty cow, and I’m so glad she’s being called on this by her peers.

BettyRuth on October 17, 2012 at 9:48 AM

Mitt CHOKED.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

^^^This is all I heard from my liberal 20-something female colleagues.

However, the only thing they recall about the debate was something about Romney and ‘Binders.’

I missed the first half of the debate. Given the demographic of the above mentioned folks, this Binder-issue must be about Lady Parts. Yes??? Help me out here.

bettycooper on October 17, 2012 at 9:43 AM

No, it’s just the new Big Bird “gotcha” (if it can even be called that). Romney said something about having binders full of women on file (in regard to women and work). I think he meant like resumes and former employees’ records. I noticed that it was all anyone on my facebook feed was picking up on as well.

Remember what Obama said in 2008, when your opponent has nothing, the election becomes about small things.

MobileVideoEngineer on October 17, 2012 at 9:51 AM

I say we give Candy is Dandy a big hand for giving Mitt a fully loaded clip on Libya.Mitt needs to put the selector switch on rock and roll and hammer it.

docflash on October 17, 2012 at 9:51 AM

Obama’s facial expression at :34 is priceless

itsnotaboutme on October 17, 2012 at 9:51 AM

BuckeyeSam on October 17, 2012 at 9:45 AM

Yeah, I forgot about that. And it was delicious. But now that he is Obama’s protector moderator, I’m sure Schieffer will be running interference.

Lehrer did us and the American people a great service by actually getting out of the way. I have a feeling in the months ahead, he is going to be shunned by the Beltway crowd and “retire” quietly to a lake somewhere out in Montana.

Rixon on October 17, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Hey gumbeyandpokey how is your fanfic career going? Any more stories in the pipeline about keeping Maura and Jane together?Maybe you could do one on keeping Barky and Biden together after they retire to private life in January.

xkaydet65 on October 17, 2012 at 9:53 AM

rplat on October 17, 2012 at 9:32 AM

I heard somewhere that Romney’s debate opponent is supposed to be referred to as Crowbama from now on.

Another instance of 0bama hiding behind a woman.

cozmo on October 17, 2012 at 9:37 AM

In this particular instance the skirt in question was HUGE, literally speaking, and provided adequate cover for the boy king…

jimver on October 17, 2012 at 9:53 AM

What is the format for the Schieffer debate? Is it like Lehrer? If so, I think Mitt’s in a comfort zone.

Rixon on October 17, 2012 at 9:54 AM

I missed the first half of the debate. Given the demographic of the above mentioned folks, this Binder-issue must be about Lady Parts. Yes??? Help me out here.

bettycooper on October 17, 2012 at 9:43 AM

This is all they got, just some bad wording from Romney. The Libs can’t find anything else to use against him. He won again.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2218891/Mitt-Romney-scores-accidental-internet-hit-binders-women-debate-meme.html

Brat on October 17, 2012 at 9:54 AM

“The rat-eared wonder won every post-debate poll? Really?

Prove it. Because I’m seeing the exact opposite. They are calling it a draw because the rat-eared wonder actually tried to defend his record of failure.

Happy Nomad on October 17, 2012 at 9:42 AM”

Obama won the CBS and CNN polls by around 7% each. He also won the PPP poll in Colorado. There was also a very small poll done by ABC that he won, too.

And when you win a debate, the margin just grows with each passing day, as happened with the first debate.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:54 AM

I’ll comment first then go back and read everything here to see if anyone else noticed what I thought I did on this issue. Obama had just hit Romney…Romney booted him to the head…Obama again said it doesn’t add up…and Romney just started correcting him and telling him HOW his tax plan adds up…when Crowley quickly jumped in and said its time to move to another subject. Right when Romney was going to give Obama the reasons his tax plan is viable…which MULTIPLE sources are now saying it is…and it is revenue neutral if done right, which is of course devastating to Obama’s “your tax plan is bankrupt” agenda. Oh, and I also loved how Obama false-narrative attack has now gone from a $5 trillion deficit…to $8 trillion??? Is the man delusional?

Highlar on October 17, 2012 at 9:55 AM

I say we give Candy is Dandy a big hand for giving Mitt a fully loaded clip on Libya.Mitt needs to put the selector switch on rock and roll and hammer it.

docflash on October 17, 2012 at 9:51 AM

THIS.

It’s teed up and it is now in the news cycle. Did anyone notice that SCOAMF actually took responsibility? It was quick but he did utter the words to that effect. This is going to really haunt him next time.

Rixon on October 17, 2012 at 9:56 AM

And when you win a debate, the margin just grows with each passing day, as happened with the first debate.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Oh, that belongs in gumbygotpoked’s greatest idiot hits.

cozmo on October 17, 2012 at 9:57 AM

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Look at the internals on every key issue. Romney won on the economy, deficits, healthcare, foreign policy by clear margins. The Luntz focus group of ex Obama ’08 voters ripped him apart and loved Mitt.

You are really in for a serious world of hurt, pal.

Rixon on October 17, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Obamanomics is confusing to anyone but the cult-amaticians
It’s just that Obama studied math under the Great Math wizard and professor of numnerology, the Saul Alinsky school of economics.

(Over the university of Alinsky carved in latin is the following phrase: Two plus two is what ever thouest wishes it to be at the moment.
Math, it seems, is very much like Obama’s view of missle defense, flexible!

Don L on October 17, 2012 at 9:59 AM

while(Obama = SCOAMF)
{

Five stages of grief:

1) Denial-”I’ve got this in the bag. The people love me and I’m bullet Proof. I’m The One. Oprah said so.

2) Anger-”All this guy does is lie. And don’t even think about questioning my political motive regarding Libya.

3)Bargaining-”If you re-elect me and give me 4 more years, I’ll fix it. I promise”

4)Depression-”Geez, you mean I could lose this to a guy that is so uncool, he goes to church every Sunday”.

5)Acceptance-”You know Michele, maybe taking a few years off will do us some good. Recharge our batteries and play a little golf. Besides, Hawaii is beautiful”

dirtseller on October 17, 2012 at 9:41 AM

6)Cling desperately to power – “2016. Cleveland did it, and the people do love me. I am bulletproof.” }

Gingotts on October 17, 2012 at 10:00 AM

One thing I find interesting is that nobody is talking about 47% today. Mitt effectively prebutted 47% before Obama was able to use it in the closing minutes of the debate when it had no impact. After the first debate the left was crying that Obama didn’t bring it up but perhaps he already knew it has no punch.

Ellis on October 17, 2012 at 10:00 AM

All that matters is who won the debate and who lost.

And Obama won ever post-debate poll.

Mitt CHOKED.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Not the one about the economy. Mitt blew Obama out of the water on that one. Now, where’s James Carville?

MeatHeadinCA on October 17, 2012 at 10:01 AM

And when you win a debate, the margin just grows with each passing day, as happened with the first debate.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Lool :) you compare Romney’s landslide first debate victory with this anemic, barey a tie second debate ?? You really are way more stupid than I thought. Make sure you don’t choke from all that oral massage activity administered to your boy…

jimver on October 17, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Obama, not by accident, but in preparation to unleash his real dastardly agenda after Nov.7, was seeking permission when he said that if he wins it is acceptance by America of his (Marxist?)policies.

I await Mitts question on this: If you lose Mr president, then by your own words, it is a rejection of your popliciwes qand all that the left stands for. Would that be a fair assessment, or is this yet another one-way philosophy of yours?

Don L on October 17, 2012 at 10:03 AM

I missed the first half of the debate. Given the demographic of the above mentioned folks, this Binder-issue must be about Lady Parts. Yes??? Help me out here.

bettycooper on October 17, 2012 at 9:43 AM

Romney made a point of how, as governor, his staff and everyone in legislature was predominantly male and how every job applicant was male. He asked his staff to find women who could qualify to serve in his government and his staff presented him with binders full of qualified female applicants. Binders. He then hired a huge bunch of them, and acknowledged that as mothers, their schedules may need to be flexible, etc.

My only complaint about this is that he should have turned to Obama and asked why HIS female staffers are paid less than men. The “noive” of Obama to accuse Romney of keeping women down.

Plus, Obama brought up the contraception boogey man (woman). Romney should have told the little crybaby that contraception is a matter of responsibility, not healthcare (unless one has serious hormonal issues correctable by hormone therapy).

Mommynator on October 17, 2012 at 10:04 AM

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Nice try, liar. Obama got crushed in the internals.

Where’s this atomic bomb you kept humping?

wargamer6 on October 17, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Everybody knows math is racist.

Brat on October 17, 2012 at 9:28 AM

I thought math existed to feel good about being Muslim. Let’s go to the Wayback Machine

Mr (Charles) Bolden said: “When I became the Nasa administrator, he [Mr Obama] charged me with three things.

“One, he wanted me to help reinspire children to want to get into science and math; he wanted me to expand our international relationships; and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science, math, and engineering.”

Fallon on October 17, 2012 at 10:07 AM

And when you win a debate, the margin just grows with each passing day, as happened with the first debate.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Not if an atomic bomb job report interjects and changes the dynamic of the race, as you assured us it woud be the case loool :) and btw, dumbass, weren’t you the one who was going on and on and on about how the debates don’t count and the first exceptional debate by Romney wouldn’t make any difference in the polls…now I see you have changed your mind, alas, again, ‘the margin grows with each passing day’ loool…pls, axelturd, take this one back, and send a troll with half a brain…this one has none…

jimver on October 17, 2012 at 10:08 AM

All that matters is who won the debate and who lost.

And Obama won ever post-debate poll.

Mitt CHOKED.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Says the troll who supports the guy whose expectations at this point are so low that just by having the “audacity” to be on the same stage with Romney qualifies as a “win.” Even with a replacement ref for a “moderator” Obama couldn’t pull it off. Romney is still the only one of the four debaters who has scored a knockout victory. Obama needed one last night and failed to get it.

cicerone on October 17, 2012 at 10:08 AM

MobileVideoEngineer on October 17, 2012 at 9:51 AM

Brat on October 17, 2012 at 9:54 AM

You rock! The commenters at Hot Air are the best on the webs.
Gumbull&slowpoke notwithstanding.

bettycooper on October 17, 2012 at 10:09 AM

I await Mitts question on this: If you lose Mr president, then by your own words, it is a rejection of your popliciwes qand all that the left stands for. Would that be a fair assessment, or is this yet another one-way philosophy of yours?

Don L on October 17, 2012 at 10:03 AM

That is true, but it’s not the way it will go down. When the media wake up from the Ostuper on November 7 and realize the damage done to their party, Barry is the one who will be rejected. And, oh the fun we will have throwing the Race Card at them all.

txhsmom on October 17, 2012 at 10:10 AM

I am always impressed at just how much the bloggers on HA know about the issues, the events and the people. You make me laugh out loud and I find myself cheering at some of your statements…I can tell you that I too was yelling at the TV answers that Romney should have used.

I just know that not being in their shoes with so much on the line last night, I don’t know if I could or would have been able to summon up all I know when fighting back both Obama and Crowley.

Obama showed up but it doesn’t change the fact that the economy is still a mess with signs that it could fall back and the foreign policy is atrocious.

CoffeeLover on October 17, 2012 at 10:11 AM

One thing I find interesting is that nobody is talking about 47% today. Mitt effectively prebutted 47% before Obama was able to use it in the closing minutes of the debate when it had no impact. After the first debate the left was crying that Obama didn’t bring it up but perhaps he already knew it has no punch.

Ellis on October 17, 2012 at 10:00 AM

I heard that on multiple focus groups that when obama brought up the 47% after Mitt had prebutted it, they basically turned off obama.

ConservativePartyNow on October 17, 2012 at 10:12 AM

And when you win a debate, the margin just grows with each passing day, as happened with the first debate.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:54 AM

And, like with most trolls, you show how much of a fool and a liar you are with each passing comment. The 7.8% jobs report was supposed to be an atomic bomb…what happened, champ? Walker was supposed to lose…what happened? You’ve been wrong throughout.

Obama barely “won” the debate. Even those who acknowledge that say he didn’t reset the race. All he did was make idiot libs like yourself orgasmic again because he attacked Romney personally. He still has a record to run on and no vision, and that is what is most important.

changer1701 on October 17, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Something about the way Romney said “Well…” at 1:04… I liked that.

Gingotts on October 17, 2012 at 9:25 AM

I noticed that when I heard it too…he sounded VERY much “Reagan” with his tone/inflection. I wonder if it was on purpose, or just happened to come out that way? lol…

Obama won the CBS and CNN polls by around 7% each. He also won the PPP poll in Colorado. There was also a very small poll done by ABC that he won, too.

And when you win a debate, the margin just grows with each passing day, as happened with the first debate.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Look at how each part of those polls was answered, and you will find that Obama LOST on every question of substance (economy, taxes, etc.). And if you look at that “won by 7%” bit, yes, he did…but it really only constituted about a 1/3 of the vote…pretty much the same as Romney got (37/30/33 or something like that)…with another third saying it was a TIE. You can’t truly claim “victory” when the results are roughly 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 with you taking a SLIGHTLY bit more than your opponent. Even in the MSNBC focus group of undecideds, he didn’t pull out a “win”. They essentially said Romney looked good…he scored big points on the economy…but that they liked Obama as a person. I’m sorry, but “likability” is NOT going to win this election for Obama. Not a second time. Romney is WAY out ahead on the things that matter most to voters this election: jobs and the economy (and, secondarily, on foreign policy via Benghazi/Libya).

Highlar on October 17, 2012 at 10:17 AM

I can tell you that I too was yelling at the TV answers that Romney should have used.

CoffeeLover on October 17, 2012 at 10:11 AM

I’m a great armchair Jeopardy player, too. IRL ~ I’d probably freeze, lol.

Fallon on October 17, 2012 at 10:18 AM

One thing I find interesting is that nobody is talking about 47% today. Mitt effectively prebutted 47% before Obama was able to use it in the closing minutes of the debate when it had no impact. After the first debate the left was crying that Obama didn’t bring it up but perhaps he already knew it has no punch.

Ellis on October 17, 2012 at 10:00 AM

Good point. And we aren’t talking about Big Bird either. IMO, the debate was such a nothingburger that the story is still about the administrations blatent lies about Libya as we go into the foreign policy debate. Bad news for team rat ears.

Happy Nomad on October 17, 2012 at 10:28 AM

What losers like Gummypokie will come to find out is that this election was indeed a referendum on Obama and that it was over by now because Mitt Romney gave them a legitimate option to feel good about voting for in the first debate, and then followed it up with his strong showing in this second debate to solidify things.

Obama winning on points narrowly wouldn’t matter in this or the next one. The tides have turned. America has finally seen Obama for what he is and there are enough people payin attention that don’t like it.

Romney has won both debates, but better yet, the trust and good will of the majority of the American people. and will be president.

Rockshine on October 17, 2012 at 10:30 AM

You rock! bettycooper on October 17, 2012 at 10:09 AM

DITTO>>

Mommynator on October 17, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Thanks! Noive, indeed

bettycooper on October 17, 2012 at 10:32 AM

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

you must have been waiting at the keyboard to be first.You guys are desperate.

LOL

gerrym51 on October 17, 2012 at 10:40 AM

All that matters is who won the debate and who lost.

And Obama won ever post-debate poll.

Mitt CHOKED.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Right, CNN polls after the debate showed undecided voters trust Romney more on the economy, the deficit, the budget, and taxes… by a large margin.

But nobody cares about those issues people want to vote for the guy who looked better in a single debate, not the guy who will do more to get the economy to recover, get jobs back, and keep taxes at a reasonable level.

Screw all that stuff, we want the “cool” guy.

Keep telling yourself that, I’m sure it’ll turn out fine for you.

gekkobear on October 17, 2012 at 10:52 AM

All that matters is who won the debate and who lost.

And Obama won ever post-debate poll.

Mitt CHOKED.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

ok, i’ll take the troll bait. even with the LSM helping owe’bama, his facade is crumbling.

the count is 3-0 for romney/ryan. but the only one that counts is the election day, but the current poll is 51 – 45 for romney.

Dr. Demento on October 17, 2012 at 11:02 AM

I think the average voter can understand that the economy under Obama is just not growing. Romney should highlight that GDP is just 1.25%. Obama’s policies = 1.25% GDP growth = failure. $5 trillion dollars spent to produce an economy barely above a recession. Mitt: bring back the white board!

monalisa on October 17, 2012 at 11:04 AM

RE: Math. I was surprised Romney didn’t bring up the number of Congressmen supporting O’s budgets –> 0. Three years of budget proposals, zero votes. He has more than a bi-partisan problem with his budgets, and Romney should have slugged him with it.

Obama’s own party is not on board with his budgets !!

KenInIL on October 17, 2012 at 11:05 AM

One thing I find interesting is that nobody is talking about 47% today. Mitt effectively prebutted 47% before Obama was able to use it in the closing minutes of the debate when it had no impact. After the first debate the left was crying that Obama didn’t bring it up but perhaps he already knew it has no punch.

Ellis on October 17, 2012 at 10:00 AM

Democratics could have been pounding on that for the last several weeks, and they haven’t. That tells me they tested it and found it’s a loser.

The 47% statement hardens little Bammie’s base, and Governor Romney’s base, and must be swaying the undecideds to Governor Romney. No other explanation is possible.

slickwillie2001 on October 17, 2012 at 11:13 AM

All that matters is who won the debate and who lost.

And Obama won ever post-debate poll.

Mitt CHOKED.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Who won or lost matters to the partisans, but the real point of the debate is to let the voters decide who would be a better president. It’s not unusual for someone to be declared the “loser” but actually win the debate. Case in point: Gore in the first debate with Bush. There were people who claimed he won, but the debate actually helped put Bush in the lead.

That said, Obama didn’t really win the debate. He did much better than last time, but he was at best no better than Romney.

tom on October 17, 2012 at 11:21 AM

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:54 AM

…But historically, the second presidential debate has moved the numbers by about 2.5 percentage points in one direction or another.

If that gain were in Mr. Obama’s favor, he would re-establish enough of a lead that there would be little doubt about who was ahead.

Another shift toward Mr. Romney, however, and he would probably lead in most national and enough swing-state polls to show him on a path to 270 electoral votes.
—Nate Silver, 538 blog 10/17/12 NYT

So, 2.5 points, heh? I think I like Mitten’s odds.

OkieDoc on October 17, 2012 at 11:24 AM

All that matters is who won the debate and who lost.

And Obama won ever post-debate poll.

Mitt CHOKED.

gumbyandpokey on October 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Only on style. On every major issue, Mitt smoked Obama… on every post-debate poll. And after four years, we know you can’t run a country on style, it’s the content and experience that count! (Which Mitt wins handily!)

dominigan on October 17, 2012 at 11:28 AM

“Think about what the Governor just said. He said when I took office, the price of gasoline was $1.80, $1.86, why is that? Because the economy was on the verge of collapse.”- El Presdente’ Obama

Barack Obama….Economic Wizard

“Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe,” Steven Chu said in an interview with the Journal in September 2008 (Before he was appointed Energy Secretary).

http://www.afneurope.net/GasPrices/tabid/87/Default.aspx

Mission accomplished
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/mar/14/newt-gingrich/gingrich-said-energy-secretary-a

workingclass artist on October 17, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Yep, the elephant in the room is that Obama’s plan for the next 4 years is more of the same failed policies and leadership.

jhffmn on October 17, 2012 at 11:48 AM

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