Romney calls out Obama’s distortions on decreased oil/gas leasing and permitting

posted at 12:01 pm on October 17, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

During the second presidential debate last night, Mitt Romney took President Obama and his administration to task for their restrictive and opportunity-killing domestic energy policies — but then Obama tried to double down on the deliberately misleading statistics he likes to use that Romney had just debunked. As Romney argued back, however, the results of the president’s policies and the goals being pursued by the many environmental arms of his bureaucracy speak for themselves.

The initial, simple (and excellent) question from the audience member was, “Your Energy Secretary Steven Chu has now been on record three times, stating it’s not the policy of his department to help lower gas prices. Do you agree with Secretary Chu that this is not the job of the Energy Department?”

Of course the president does agree with his own appointed Energy Secretary that the department’s job is not to help facilitate American businesses in harnessing energy our resources, but rather believes that it’s the government’s job to engineer the green economy of the left’s socialistic eco-fantasies regardless of “necessarily skyrocketing” energy prices. As Chu has said, what they’d really like to see is even higher gas prices that would force Americans to turn to alternate technologies, no matter the expense. But, the president can’t actually say that, given the deep unpopularity of high gas prices eating into everybody’s disposable incomes and ergo the detrimental effects high energy prices have on the economy, most especially on the poorest among us.

So, the president had to dither about his ostensible “all of the above” energy strategy and threw out some very impressive-sounding statistics about the traditional domestic energy market. Before inevitably getting around to touting his arbitrary vehicle emissions standards and green energy “investments,” he proudly proclaimed that our oil production is the highest its been in sixteen years while our oil imports are at the lowest level they’ve been in the same period of time — as if these indeed-true statistics are somehow due to his own administration’s energy prowess… And this is where Romney, in a beautifully organized takedown, proceeded to rip Obama’s beguiling proclamations to shreds.

“Let’s look at the president’s policies as opposed to the rhetoric, because we’ve had four years of policies being played out. And, the president’s right in terms of the additional oil production, but none of it came on federal land. As a matter of fact, oil production is down fourteen percent on federal land this year, and gas production is down nine percent.” As Romney concedes, yes, oil and gas production are up and running, but this is due mainly to both projects approved by the previous administration (cough, cough) and the auspices of private businesses on private land. The Obama administration used the BP oil spill as a convenient excuse to enforce a virtual moratorium on offshore permitting, and they haven’t lightened up much since then. As Conn Carroll summarizes at the Washington Examiner using data from the Bureau of Land Management,

In 2008 under President Bush, there were a total of 55,085 oil and gas leases in effect on federal land. In 2011 under Obama, there were just 49,174, a decrease of 11 percent. In 2008 under Bush, there were 47.2 million acres of federal land under lease. In 2011 under Obama, there were just 38.5 million, a decrease of 19 percent. In 2008 under Bush, the federal government approved 6,617 oil and gas permits. In 2011 under Obama, the federal government approved just 4,244 permits, a decrease of 36 percent.

And yes, increased domestic oil and liquified natural gas (LNG) production, as well as the increased efficiencies of technological innovation, have contributed to decreased oil imports — but don’t forget that we are in an extended near-recession and are simply consuming less oil. Funny how the president can cite that stat as a positive, when it actually communicates a lot of negatives about the type of economy he’s perpetuated.

In his initial response, Obama also argued that Romney is going to “let oil companies write the energy policies” — what does that even mean? That just because Romney doesn’t want to keep willfully burning cash on renewable “investments,” he wants to get all those eeeevil, greedy oil execs around the rule-writing table and let them have at it? No. Favoring free enterprise and consumer choice is not the same thing as being against green energy in principle, as much as the president and his army of eco-crusaders want us to think that we’d never be capable of producing alternate technologies without the government’s august assistance.

As for coal, it’s also true that the industry that supplies almost half of the United States’ electricity needs is heading into heavy competition from the natural gas industry — but while creative destruction like this might momentarily destroy one type of job, it quickly replaces those lost jobs with productive jobs in new industries and creates economic growth along the way. President Obama’s punishing regulatory regime deliberately designed to clobber the coal industry just kills jobs, while they simultaneously spend our money on subsidizing wind and solar jobs that cannot even sustain themselves in the long term — producing net economic decline.

Obama tries to hit back on Romney’s accurate observations — “Very little of what Governor Romney just said is true. We’ve opened up public lands. We’re actually drilling more on public lands than in the previous administration” — but again, Obama ignores the facts about the rates of leasing and permitting that disqualify his claims, and Romney doesn’t let him get away with it. (Also, Obama’s “use-it-or-lose-it,” “you can’t just choose to drill when it’s profitable for you” policy argument, demonstrates a devastatingly pathetic lack of understanding about the way the markets work to everyone’s best advantage.)

As Romney briefly mentions, just look at the boom going on in North Dakota on top of the Bakken shale formation — a product of the state allowing companies to get to work on state lands. Somehow, the state managed to regulate the situation sans any environmental catastrophe, even without the federal government breathing down their neck, and their state unemployment rate is down around three percent. Obama’s federal energy policies have declined to take advantage of the readily available economic opportunities throughout the country, and Romney was right to persist in calling him out on it.


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One more reason not to re-elect President Obama to a second term was provided last Friday, when Heather Zichal, the top White House energy aide, told reporters that she expects the Interior Department rules regulating hydraulic fracturing, dubbed fracking, to be completed by year’s end.

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redguy on October 17, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Isn’t Obama’s duplicity and lying the most obvious when he talks about pushing oil, gas, and coal?

Paul-Cincy on October 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM

“Do you agree with Secretary Chu that this is not the job of the Energy Department?”

I don’t want to answer that question. So instead I’ll answer a different question.

aunursa on October 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM

What he knows about oil is the oil he puts on his aragula salad.

docflash on October 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM

I wish Romney would have nailed Obama for not answering the question. A simple “Obama didn’t answer your question because I assume he agrees, we need to price gas out of the reach of the middle class”.

And when Obama objects, challenge him to answer the question directly.

right2bright on October 17, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Obama lied about oil and gas production.
Obama lied about green energy.
Obama lied about about the GM and Chrysler unlawful bailouts.
Obama lied about cutting taxes.
Obama lied about lowering taxes for small business.
Obama lied about Romney lying.

The take away from last night if you did not already know is; Obama lies, Obama lies about everything, Obama lies all the time.

jukin3 on October 17, 2012 at 12:06 PM

During the second presidential debate last night, Mitt Romney took President Obama and his administration to task for their restrictive and opportunity-killing domestic energy policies

Does Honey Boo Boo know about this? Because I think she may change her endorsement to Romney if she did.

Seriously, why is it that the media lets the rat-eared wonder get away with blatant lies as they parse over transcripts trying to prove that Obama said the Benghazi attack was terrorism on 9/12 when he clearly didn’t.

Happy Nomad on October 17, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Isn’t Obama’s duplicity and lying the most obvious when he talks about pushing oil, gas, and coal?

Paul-Cincy on October 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Yes, and most folks know it when they look at the price at the pump and their energy bills. His record on this is horrible.

Doughboy on October 17, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Mitt should have used the “Liar, Liar, pants are on fire”! The Obumbler has not soul.

Tbone McGraw on October 17, 2012 at 12:08 PM

That’s it Mitt. Kick Barky the Boy Wonder in the nads with this, and keep kicking until it screams.

Thomas More on October 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Also needed to hit Obama on the fact that his new MPG standards will make cars unaffordable for many people.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on October 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Isn’t Obama’s duplicity and lying the most obvious when he talks about pushing oil, gas, and coal?

Paul-Cincy on October 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Also about the economy/recovery and his give Africa to the islamists foreign policy.

jukin3 on October 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Lefty ideologues everywhere approve of what the Obama administration has done, is doing and will do to energy prices. They love the decline in the American economy the Obama administration and Democrats everywhere want to cause.

Those who want to vote for Obama must be ignorant of how the economy works or just plain fearful of having to take responsibility for their own lives. I can’t think of any other reason.

MTF on October 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM

I have one client I visit once a week – round trip – 140 miles….
20 mpg = 7 gal of gas @ 3.50 = $24.50 x 50 weeks = $1,225 per year…..

Obama’s gas prices take away any “tax cut” he thinks he gives me…..

I am self-employed and have to pay taxes every month – on-line…..

Between the gas prices and the higher cost of food and energy – I can’t afford Obamanomics any longer……

redguy on October 17, 2012 at 12:12 PM

hey, what was the deal with that accusation by President Boo Boo about Romney closing a coal mine? what’s that story?

David on October 17, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Oh boy. Didn’t the ABC News line about

“Obama-campaign-not-worried-about-debate-moderator-candy-crowley”

tell you anything?

IlikedAUH2O on October 17, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Isn’t Obama’s duplicity and lying the most obvious when he talks about pushing oil, gas, and coal?

Paul-Cincy on October 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Interesting question:

When is Obama’s lies and duplicitous is most obvious when……

He talks about a balanced energy policy that includes oil, gas and coal?

He talks about his administration’s response to the attacks on Benghazi?

He talks about his concern for the middle class?

None of the above?

Happy Nomad on October 17, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Isn’t Obama’s duplicity and lying the most obvious when he talks about pushing oil, gas, and coal?

Paul-Cincy on October 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM

…and the duplicity of the MSM allowing JugEars to keep lying?

KOOLAID2 on October 17, 2012 at 12:14 PM

MTF at 12:09 … I think you’re right that people are afraid to “take responsibility” for their lives, but in this sense: it is a basic economic habit of human beings to try to get maximum bennie for least cost. Seems to me, the Left preys on that, whether deliberately or as a matter of convenience. know what i mean?

David on October 17, 2012 at 12:15 PM

OT: uhoh Violent crime up (18%) for the first time since the 1970s.

faraway on October 17, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Reality sets in for Obama:

“The way we’re going to create jobs here is not just changing our tax code, but also to double our exports. And we are on pace to double our exports, one of the commitments I made when I was president.

right2bright on October 17, 2012 at 12:16 PM

hey, what was the deal with that accusation by President Boo Boo about Romney closing a coal mine? what’s that story?

David on October 17, 2012 at 12:12 PM

The irony there is Obama wants to close most coal plants, and make new ones cost-prohibitive to build. I understand China has been building one new coal-fired power plant every 2 weeks for years. But this is how Obama debates. He doesn’t argue from the point of view of his policies, but takes shots at Romney instead.

Paul-Cincy on October 17, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Those who want to vote for Obama must be ignorant of how the economy works or just plain fearful of having to take responsibility for their own lives. I can’t think of any other reason.

MTF on October 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Hey as long as that welfare check is deposited, they’re good.

Obama or America. Pick one.

Happy Nomad on October 17, 2012 at 12:17 PM

oops, not 1970s, it’s 1993.

The number of violent crimes rose by 18 percent in the United States last year while property crimes went up by 11 percent, the government reported Wednesday.

It was the first year-to-year increase for violent crime since 1993, marking the end of a long string of declines. Violent crime fell by 65 percent since 1993, from 16.8 million to 5.8 million last year.

faraway on October 17, 2012 at 12:17 PM

MTF on October 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM

No they think the Republicans, banks and rich people ruin everything while they have their fighters for the middle class, women and the helpless do all they can.

Don’t you remember the 2008 collapse which Bush caused by letting the rich steal the money and the banks run wild?

IlikedAUH2O on October 17, 2012 at 12:17 PM

I particularly liked the “gas prices were lower in 2008 because the economy was collapsing”.

Say what?

tru2tx on October 17, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Too bad Mitt didn’t ask bho why he/term are in contempt of court because they didn’t/wouldn’t let drilling in the gulf?
L

letget on October 17, 2012 at 12:17 PM

But, the president can’t actually say that, given the deep unpopularity of high gas prices.

This is why Obama is losing ground now. It’s because he can’t come out and be open about his real agenda. His radical base doesn’t really mind about this, since they know Obama’s real agenda is to “transform” America, and inflation and poverty are just inconvenient collateral damage that need to be borne on the way to utopia. But it’s that darned undecided zone, the low-information squishes who over the last few years have blithely accepted Obama’s promises as fact but are just starting to pay attention to the race that are the problem at this point. They are confused about the contrast between what Obama is saying and what is actually all around them.

The liberal base must be getting very frustrated at this point. They desperately want to transform America. They love what Obama is doing. But they’re hamstrung because they can’t be open about what they want, and the squishes are now trending in the wrong direction.

Burke on October 17, 2012 at 12:17 PM

O/T

The moron who asked that first question yesterday at the debate says he’s no longer undecided. Won’t say who he’s voting for. Says he talked to both candidates after the debate, jobs with Romney, and BASKETBALL with Onumbnuts. What a total dumbass.

msupertas on October 17, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Even my 12-year-old son pointed out that, when Romney asked Obama several times about the number of permits he has issued, he never answered the question.

And Mitt’s emphasis on the importance of coal had to have helped him with voters in Ohio and Western Pa. more than anything Obama said in the debate.

Right Mover on October 17, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Between the gas prices and the higher cost of food and energy – I can’t afford Obamanomics any longer……

redguy on October 17, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Ain’t that the truth. I’m buying the same amount of food but paying about twice as much and don’t get me started on gas prices.

Happy Nomad on October 17, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Paul-Cincy 12:16.
Right, I get that. But does anyone here know the specific coal mine that President Kardashian accused Romney of closing in MA??

David on October 17, 2012 at 12:20 PM

What a total dumbass.

msupertas on October 17, 2012 at 12:17 PM

He’s undecided three weeks out from the election. Undecided at this point is a dog whistle for dumbass.

Happy Nomad on October 17, 2012 at 12:20 PM

But, but…all the libtards say Barky won hands down. Looks like that 30% is still going to vote for him. Maybe their pathetic spin can snag another 12-14% of “independents” so that he will only lose by 10-12 percentage points. Dang, I really wanted him embarrassed and destroyed when he only got 32% of the popular vote.

NOMOBO on October 17, 2012 at 12:20 PM

“Mr Preeezy do you agree with Secretary Chewbacca about gas prices”
“That’s a very interesting question and I would say this: I am a lifelong fan of the Chicago Bears and yes, I did eat Bo.”
“Thank you for your brilliant answer Mr. Preeezy.”

CorporatePiggy on October 17, 2012 at 12:22 PM

hey, what was the deal with that accusation by President Boo Boo about Romney closing a coal mine? what’s that story?

David on October 17, 2012 at 12:12 PM

*heh* “President Boo Boo” *heh heh* “President Boo Boo” ….

SailorMark on October 17, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Obama’s retort regarding the permit thing really made no sense.

changer1701 on October 17, 2012 at 12:24 PM

I forgot to mention that the US also caused Europe’s problems.

That is among those who don’t blame Germany or capitalism generally.

Search Barroso on the web.

IlikedAUH2O on October 17, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Hey remember when Obama gave that Soros company billions to produce oil off the coast of Brazil?

He’s all for oil production when there is some crony to pay off and it’s out of sight.

p0s3r on October 17, 2012 at 12:26 PM

When the President said that gas was lower during the Bush administration because the economy was so bad which, if true, means gas should be fifty cents about now.

What a maroon….

Lily on October 17, 2012 at 12:30 PM

‘Coincidence’ – leftists get more time in all 3 debates.

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Obama simply lied here. Out and out lying. Expecting the usual media cover-up.
As for the MPG, this is Obama’s magic wand again. Laughably unrealistic. He simply wants to outlaw SUVs and trucks. No doubt intending to keep his Lincoln Continental, though.

pat on October 17, 2012 at 12:32 PM

What a total dumbass.

msupertas on October 17, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Except for the Libya question all the others were dummies. Mostly they are in such settings. Imagine the rest of the electorate if these are the “chosen” ones.

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2012 at 12:33 PM

I am self-employed and have to pay taxes every month – on-line…..
Between the gas prices and the higher cost of food and energy – I can’t afford Obamanomics any longer……
redguy on October 17, 2012 at 12:12 PM

With you, there. Hubby drives about 100-120 miles per DAY.
Our fuel bills run about $ 600+/ mo. … clearly doubled from just awhile back.
Can’t even imagine how the OTR truckers are making ends meet !!

pambi on October 17, 2012 at 12:35 PM

‘Coincidence’ – leftists get more time in all 3 debates.

Schadenfreude on October 17, 2012 at 12:31 PM

And amazingly, said less !!

HOT AIR !!!!!

Jabberwock on October 17, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Obama, unfettered in a 2nd term with the opposition being crybaby-rollover Boehner and Mitch McConnell?

God save us from this disaster.

Amen.

PappyD61 on October 17, 2012 at 12:40 PM

After Romney said he would approve the Keystone XL pipeline to bring shale oil from Canada, Obama also said he is for pipelines–except that he has single-handedly held up Keystone XL for over a year. Then Obama said that we weren’t considering the other side of his equation, meaning solar and wind power.

Let’s look at the relative scale of the two sides of Obama’s “equation”. The Keystone XL pipeline, if built, would carry about 700,000 barrels per day of crude. Multiply that by 42 gallons per barrel, and a heating value of about 120,000 Btu/gallon, that’s 3.53 TRILLION Btu/day of energy. Since 1 Btu = 1055 Joules, and 1 day = 86,400 seconds, this comes out to

3.53*10^12 * 1055 / 86,400 = 4.3*10^10 Watts = 43,000 megawatts (MW) of power.

With Obama’s $90 billion “investment” (read: wasted tax dollars) in wind and solar, how much power has been produced? Maybe 100 megawatts on a sunny, windy day, and zero on calm nights?

So the Keystone XL pipeline could bring us 400 times more power than Obama’s $90 billion worth of windmills and solar panels, for a LOT less than $90 billion. If people start realizing the scale of the energy produced, it’s a no-brainer to build the Keystone XL pipeline and let the private sector figure out how to build a more efficient solar panel or windmill.

Steve Z on October 17, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Ain’t that the truth. I’m buying the same amount of food but paying about twice as much and don’t get me started on gas prices.

Happy Nomad on October 17, 2012 at 12:19 PM

May I? I drive 80 miles/day, 400 miles/week, because we live 20 miles from my son’s school. It’s our choice to put him at that school–a highly specialized school for kids with learning issues. We sacrifice a lot for it and that’s what you do for your kids. But, why the needless sacrificing on something like gas? We don’t have to live this way and on November 6th we make a giant correction.

txhsmom on October 17, 2012 at 12:41 PM

Obama lies… This is NOT BREAKING NEWS. If Barack Obama had to tell the truth about anything, he would be utterly unable to speak, hell he couldn’t even say his own name…

Candy Crowley graduates from the Joesph Goebbels school of Journalism.

SWalker on October 17, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Obama on planned parenthood: “Millions of women rely on Planned Parenthood for mammograms…”

From Planned Parenthoods website: “Planned Parenthood doctors and nurses teach patients about breast care, connect patients to resources to help them get vital biopsies, ultrasounds, and mammograms, and follow up to make sure patients are cared for with the attention they need and deserve.”

From their own website Planned Parenthood only refers women to clinics that provide the service, something their family doctor can do as well. PP’s primary service is abortions.

Dasher on October 17, 2012 at 12:42 PM

How about this question:

“Why does the federal government control so much land in this country?”

Let’s get the government out of the land control business.

Dack Thrombosis on October 17, 2012 at 12:44 PM

The two faced hypocrisy, Obama displays is astounding! He does everything in his power to hurt the energy industries and still wants to take credit for the companies who manage to get around or over the mountains of regulations, the Regime enforces on Oil producers, for the express purpose of raising the cost of energy to the consumer!
Update on:How to take on the Enemy media & Win: http://paratisiusa.blogspot.com/2012/09/an-open-letter-to-those-who-should-know.html?spref=tw

God Bless America!

paratisi on October 17, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Dasher on October 17, 2012 at 12:42 PM

The Live Action fb page is constantly debunking this lie about PP and mammograms.

txhsmom on October 17, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Isn’t it going to be interesting when, under President Romney, the economy takes off and gas prices drop?

txhsmom on October 17, 2012 at 12:47 PM

redguy on October 17, 2012 at 12:03 PM

J.C. Watts says that Oklahoma has been using fracking for forty years with no ill effects. The EPA involvement will be a disaster, I am sure.

Cindy Munford on October 17, 2012 at 12:49 PM

I particularly liked the “gas prices were lower in 2008 because the economy was collapsing”.

Say what?

tru2tx on October 17, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Gasoline prices were lower in late 2008 because the President opened lots of offshore areas for drilling in July 2008, and oil-futures traders at the time anticipated increased oil supplies in the near future, leading them to sell more oil and take advantage of the high prices in mid-2008.

Did President Obama do that? No, that was the work of Obama’s favorite scapegoat and villian, George Dubya BushHitlerHalliburton.

Steve Z on October 17, 2012 at 12:50 PM

In 2008 under President Bush, there were a total of 55,085 oil and gas leases in effect on federal land. In 2011 under Obama, there were just 49,174, a decrease of 11 percent.

In 2008 under Bush, there were 47.2 million acres of federal land under lease. In 2011 under Obama, there were just 38.5 million, a decrease of 19 percent.

In 2008 under Bush, the federal government approved 6,617 oil and gas permits. In 2011 under Obama, the federal government approved just 4,244 permits, a decrease of 36 percent.

The decrease in oil and gas leases, acres, and permits under Obama has led to a decrease in oil and gas production on federal land. According to the Energy Information Administration, in 2010, 726 million barrels of oil were produced on federal land. In 2011, just 626 billion barrels were produced, a decrease of 14 percent. In 2010, 5,166 billion cubic feet of natural gas were produced on federal land. In 2011, just 4,609 billion cubic feet were produced, a decrease of 11 percent. Source

Flora Duh on October 17, 2012 at 12:56 PM

How about this question:

“Why does the federal government control so much land in this country?”

Let’s get the government out of the land control business.

Dack Thrombosis on October 17, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Whoa! Awesome question. I would have liked to see Mitt directly pose this to dear lyre.

freedomfirst on October 17, 2012 at 1:00 PM

hey, what was the deal with that accusation by President Boo Boo about Romney closing a coal mine? what’s that story?

David on October 17, 2012 at 12:12 PM

The coal plant Obama accused Romney of closing was never closed. And the reason Romney attacked the plant was because they weren’t in compliance with regulations, not because Romney is opposed to coal. So, once again, Obama proves what an out and out liar he is.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/16/obama-right-and-wrong-on-coal-plant/

eyedoc on October 17, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Romney’s lead up to six points now in Gallup.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/157817/election-2012-likely-voters-trial-heat-obama-romney.aspx

eyedoc on October 17, 2012 at 1:11 PM

As for coal, it’s also true that the industry that supplies almost half of the United States’ electricity needs is heading into heavy competition from the natural gas industry

Not competition.

Not by a long shot.

This is being caused by Government interference with competition.

Insane EPA Rules.

Coal is far cheaper than Natural Gas even at new lower prices it is still far more expensive than coal. But coal is not allowed because of “Global Warming” (Bullcrap).

Steveangell on October 17, 2012 at 1:14 PM

The moron who asked that first question yesterday at the debate says he’s no longer undecided. Won’t say who he’s voting for. Says he talked to both candidates after the debate, jobs with Romney, and BASKETBALL with Onumbnuts. What a total dumbass.

msupertas on October 17, 2012 at 12:17 PM

I was always under the understanding that college was for scholars. People who liked to think and wanted to learn. But, that isn’t the case anymore. Everyone goes to college and are endoctrinated, not educated. And then furthermore, if everyone has a degree in whatever, what makes you so special?

That’s why its fun to watch Watter’s World on Bill O’Reilly when he goes to college campuses and asks the students questions. They don’t know shit from shinola. Look at their shoes.

Mirimichi on October 17, 2012 at 1:15 PM

Obama’s distortions

distortions? what is this word?…distortions?

KOOLAID2 on October 17, 2012 at 1:17 PM

The coal plant Obama accused Romney of closing was never closed. And the reason Romney attacked the plant was because they weren’t in compliance with regulations, not because Romney is opposed to coal. So, once again, Obama proves what an out and out liar he is.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/16/obama-right-and-wrong-on-coal-plant/

eyedoc on October 17, 2012 at 1:07 PM

The article say nothing about why it was killing people. NOTHING.

Romney passed Cap and Trade. Was it because Global Warming was killing people? If Romney still believes in Global Warming we is screwed.

Steveangell on October 17, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Says he talked to both candidates after the debate, jobs with Romney, and BASKETBALL with Onumbnuts. What a total dumbass.

msupertas on October 17, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Indeed.

Moron thinks that he can say he was undecided then only talk basketball with Obama. Right.

Steveangell on October 17, 2012 at 1:19 PM

I sure hope that Obama’s “Romney is a poppy pants and BTW don’t look at the last four years” strategy does not work or we are doomed as a country.

jukin3 on October 17, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Also needed to hit Obama on the fact that his new MPG standards will make cars unaffordable for many people.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on October 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Agreed, that should have been expanded upon in an understandable fashion..”Mr Pres, how much more will these cars cost in 5 yrs…how many years will it be, knowing the average car buyer holds onto a car for 3 yrs, before the buyer can recoup the cost”…essentially, there is a significant cost burdened by the consumer all for the good of better gas mileage, but less net money left on your household net worth sheet…

hillsoftx on October 17, 2012 at 1:26 PM

In 2001, Massachusetts passed new rules to reduce power plant emissions of nitrogen oxide, sulfur dioxide, carbon dioxide and mercury, to be phased in over several years. The mercury standard would not be finalized until 2004. Romney supported the rules, as he made clear repeatedly.

CO2 does not belong there period.

Furthermore the reductions he wanted were to a much lower level than Coal Plants all over the nation run at.

I am not the least bit convinced Mitt is any better on Coal than Romney.

Steveangell on October 17, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Agreed, that should have been expanded upon in an understandable fashion..”Mr Pres, how much more will these cars cost in 5 yrs…how many years will it be, knowing the average car buyer holds onto a car for 3 yrs, before the buyer can recoup the cost”…essentially, there is a significant cost burdened by the consumer all for the good of better gas mileage, but less net money left on your household net worth sheet…

hillsoftx on October 17, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Mr. President these cars plug in and use Coal or Natural Gas to power them. Every study shows they pollute more overall than Gasoline powered cars. How does that make sense?

No way to frame this answer in a way that makes it easy to understand.

I suppose you could say this will double the cost of an automobile over ten years. But still a difficult argument to make.

Steveangell on October 17, 2012 at 1:33 PM

I am not the least bit convinced Mitt is any better on Coal than Romney Barry the Muslim.

Steveangell on October 17, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Steveangell on October 17, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Obama didn’t have to take math in despot school as he majored in petulance.

ActinUpinTexas on October 17, 2012 at 1:43 PM

OBama dithers while my income withers.

Badger40 on October 17, 2012 at 1:46 PM

I am self-employed and have to pay taxes every month – on-line…..
Between the gas prices and the higher cost of food and energy – I can’t afford Obamanomics any longer……
redguy on October 17, 2012 at 12:12 PM

With you, there. Hubby drives about 100-120 miles per DAY.
Our fuel bills run about $ 600+/ mo. … clearly doubled from just awhile back.
Can’t even imagine how the OTR truckers are making ends meet !!

pambi on October 17, 2012 at 12:35 PM

We ranch & Hubby also drives our 2000 PEte over the road commercial hauling grain cattle & hay etc.
Hubby is reluctant to raise rates bcs we are in the same boat as everyone else around here.
The cattle market is high. But the fuel prices are negating any gain we could have made out of this.
We are struggling in record breaking cattle price years.
All of us are.
I may be part of the 47% who does pay INCOME taxes, but we’re paying through the nose for everything else.
Clean & simple: Obama & the Liberal policies of the Dems have almost run us out of business.
We are hanging on by threads here.
I hate you Obama. You are an evil POS who must be stopped.
Romney is our last hope at this point.

Badger40 on October 17, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Romney should of nailed Obama with his failed green projects, especially Solyndra..500 million tax payer dollars down the drain..he messed that up

sadsushi on October 17, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Obowma has prevented our Southern California oil company from drilling new water injection wells that supplement oil production for the past 3 1/2 years. These wells must be approved and the EPA has prevented issuing these new permits.

THAT IS A FACT as our oil production declined 10% per year due to the lack of new water injection wells that would have supported oil production. With these permits approved, normal oil production decline is 1 1/2 % per year. Obowma HAS been against increased oil production just as he has with coal fire power plants by preventing new plants through increasing EPA restrictions.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8aFWME96AuI

dthorny on October 17, 2012 at 2:28 PM

The gasoline price increases damages the middle class in two ways. The increased price at the pump hurts the middle class wallet every week due to higher prices paid, and second, Obowma INCREASED TAXES by higher gasoline taxes paid at the pump by the middle class consumer.

Obowma lied when he said he would not raise taxes on anyone making under 250 k, he did through higher gasoline taxes for everyone.

dthorny on October 17, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Romney should of nailed Obama with his failed green projects, especially Solyndra..500 million tax payer dollars down the drain..he messed that up

sadsushi on October 17, 2012 at 2:19 PM

He did during the first debate. He brought up North Dakota and other new points last night, which was good.

Why keep repeating a single point when there is so much to talk about O?

ptcamn on October 17, 2012 at 2:41 PM

O/T

The moron who asked that first question yesterday at the debate says he’s no longer undecided. Won’t say who he’s voting for. Says he talked to both candidates after the debate, jobs with Romney, and BASKETBALL with Onumbnuts. What a total dumbass.

msupertas on October 17, 2012 at 12:17 PM

While not defending the guy, I wouldn’t necessarily jump at the conclusion that he would vote for O. After all you say he discussed jobs with Romney, which shows interest and shows he can handle the subject. Discussing basketball with Dear Leader means that he either knows his jobs plans too well and has little faith on them or considers that the only meaningful conversation he can have with him is what was on ESPN last night.

ptcamn on October 17, 2012 at 2:45 PM

I am sick and tired of the royal “We” whenever he is lying like a rug – which is every time his lips are moving.

dockywocky on October 17, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Also needed to hit Obama on the fact that his new MPG standards will make cars unaffordable for many people.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on October 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Agreed, that should have been expanded upon in an understandable fashion..”Mr Pres, how much more will these cars cost in 5 yrs…how many years will it be, knowing the average car buyer holds onto a car for 3 yrs, before the buyer can recoup the cost”…essentially, there is a significant cost burdened by the consumer all for the good of better gas mileage, but less net money left on your household net worth sheet…

hillsoftx on October 17, 2012 at 1:26 PM

That also needs to be attacked by letting people know that the manufacturers will have to get there by making cars of plastic and aluminum, making them less safe while more expensive.

slickwillie2001 on October 17, 2012 at 3:53 PM

There is no middle class tax cut. He lied about that, too. There is a slight decrease in the deduction going to SS which will hurt people when they retire unless the dems decide to increase the amount deducted for that in future years to make up for the shortfall. There are all kinds of tax credits out there but the tax rates are the same they have been for the last 11 years.
The car companies aren’t even sure they can produce cars that will meet the standards set by Chu. Guess we’ll all be driving pregnant roller skates at some point.

Kissmygrits on October 17, 2012 at 5:17 PM

Captain Kirk: Everything Harry Barack tells you is a lie. Remember that. Everything Harry Barack tells you is a lie.

sadatoni on October 17, 2012 at 5:22 PM