Rice: My talking points were “purely a function of what was provided to us” by intelligence

posted at 4:01 pm on October 16, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Last night, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton took (pretty much symbolic, showy) responsibility for the security failings during the terrorist attack in Benghazi that resulted in the death of four Americans. As for who approved Ambassador Susan Rice’s talking points for a string of Sunday-show appearances five days after the 9/11/12 attack in which she infamously insisted the whole thing was the spontaneous result of outrage over an internet video (even though we now know that intelligence officials knew it was a coordinated, pre-planned attack within 24 hours), Clinton maintained that you’d have to ask Ambassador Rice herself, via the WFB:

QUESTION: Who briefed Ambassador Rice that day? Did you sign off on that briefing and those speaking points?

SECRETARY CLINTON: You would have to ask her.

QUESTION: You didn’t speak to her before that appearance?

SECRETARY CLINTON: No, but that – everybody had the same information. I mean, I’m – I have to say I know there’s been a lot of attention paid to who said what when, but I think what happened is more important. We were attacked, and four brave Americans were killed. Others were injured. Dozens had to fight for their life and had to get evacuated. Everybody in the Administration had – has tried to say what we knew at the time with the caveat that we would learn more, and that’s what’s happened. So I think that – I’ve seen it before not just in respect to this. I think it’s part of what the fog of war causes.

The WaPo did ask U.N. Ambassador Rice about why she stuck to the spontaneous, non-premeditated storyline days after the intelligence community classified the not-a-random-riot as an act of terrorism. Her answer? Because that’s the information with which the intelligence community provided her. Uhm…what the what?

The administration’s characterization only days after Rice’s TV appearances that the assault in Libya was a terrorist attack has raised questions about why she attributed the incident to a protest that officials now say did not take place. Republicans have pressed for answers on whether she simply went too far in her assessment or was reading from an administration script that was designed to protect President Obama’s record on national security in an election year.

In an interview Monday with The Washington Post, Rice said she relied on daily updates from intelligence agencies in the days before her television appearances and on a set of talking points prepared for senior members of the administration by intelligence officials. She said there was no attempt to pick and choose among possible explanations for the attack.

“Absolutely not,” Rice said. “It was purely a function of what was provided to us” and had been given to Congress the day before.

Call me cynical, but somehow I’m not convinced that absolutely nobody from the president’s political camp nudged her in a certain direction in spinning this for the public. For goodness sake, the president of the United States stood up in front of the General Assembly of the United Nations more than two weeks later and proceeded to spend half of his speech criticizing a few individuals’ impetus for posting a mean video (“the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam,” Obama munificently told the august body), while taking it pretty easy on — oh, you know — just violence and terrorism. Somebody still has a lot of explaining to do; we’ll see if we can glean anything from Romney’s plans to ask Obama to “man up” on the Libya attack during the debate tonight.


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The Hillary Clinton Excuse/Posture

…the issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or … took a few liberties with our female party guests. We did.

A classic spin.

Jaibones on October 16, 2012 at 5:22 PM

begala=
rice an honorable women, she didn’t cherry pick…
she shouldn’t have said ANYTHING at all…
ONLY MITT is politicizing this issue not obama and his crew

ARI, call him out on that for the love of pete!

arrrrgghhhh

cmsinaz on October 16, 2012 at 5:22 PM

The truth is, in the last days of a presidential campaign, the only authority that people in the administration are listening to are the top campaign staff. If Rice talked to anybody, it was either Axelrod, Jarrett, or Obama.

RBMN on October 16, 2012 at 5:25 PM

There’s a simple way to answer the question of when the “Administration,” and,to be more specific, the WH,was informed about Benghazi being categorized as a terrorist attack by the IC…

Remember the PDBs, and how that sanctimonious pr!ck Richard Ben-Veniste tried to hammer Condi Rice over a PDB title? How about declassifying and releasing the PDB’s from the day of the attack on the consulate through the time Susan Rice appeared on TV. That should clear it up just fine. What do you say, Dems? It was okay before, so why not now?

Roc on October 16, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Hillary has already declared that the complete Foreign Policy Failure in Libya was/is her fault. WHY DOES SHE & RICE STILL HAVE A JOB IN THIS ADMINISTRATION?

Intel told them of the pending threat of Al Qaida attack. Ambassador Stevens warned them and asked for mroe protection, which Hillary/the State Department refused to provide. Before the attack Al Zawahiri, Al Qaeda’s #1 man, posted a video calling for the attack in revenge to the U.S. drone strike in June that killed their #2 man. WHILE THE ATTACK WAS GOING ON we now know there was a U.S. ‘Predaror’ un-manned aircraft overhead providing the administration with STREAMING LIVE VIDEO – they watched it go down, watched Stevens get killed, & knew IMMEDIATELY there was no ‘protest’. (They SAW part of that arsenal of shoulder-launched missiles we failed to secure when Qaddaffi’s govt fell – 25,000 of which are now ‘missing’ – being used to kill the 4 Americans there.) The administration’s hand-picked Libyan Security Team aided Stevens’ assassins!

It was a complete & utter disaster…and now we have Hillary stepping up to the proverbial plate to declare SHE is the one reponsible for not only not having our embassies prepared for trouble on the anniversary of 9/11 but that she was the one responsible for DIS-ARMING the marines guarding the Embassy in Cairo, Egypt & the one responsible for the fiasco in Libya that resulted in America’s 1st dea Ambassador in 3 decades!

We also have Rice, who like her boss, has been LYING from Day 1 & who continues to LIE even though by accepting blame for the disaster hillary Clinton also just dragged Rice under the ‘bus’ with her! Hillary is INCOMPETENT & Rice is a LIAR – BOTH NEED TO BE FIRED IMMEDIATELY!

And you can bet if Obama was watching streaming video of the military taking down OBL he was watching the assassination of our Ambassador in Libya going down! It is PROTOCOL for the President to be notified of such an event, such a LENGTHY on-going attack against America/an American Ambassador oversees.

easyt65 on October 16, 2012 at 5:28 PM

So will Obama call in The Secretary of Explainin’ Stuff Bill Clinton to sage a joint press conference to explain how we are all misunderstanding the Bengazi timeline which has been politically hijacked by Romney?

workingclass artist on October 16, 2012 at 5:29 PM

You know, there really is no need to use an adjective when speaking of the video, although I have yet to see anyone write about it without using one. Whether or not it was “mean” or “amateurish” or “bad” or “two-thumbs-down” is irrelevant. We don’t have to tiptoe around a bunch of wild animals by modifying our language. I thought the video was sensational – the best film since Casablanca – the can’t-miss blockbuster of the decade, so what? A lot of people think Bill Maher is funny but we don’t drag them out of their homes in the middle of the night for their poor taste, do we?

stout77 on October 16, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Because that’s the information with which the intelligence community provided her

Yeah, but that was only after the New York Times wrote and approved it….

Don L on October 16, 2012 at 5:31 PM

I’ve seen it before not just in respect to this. I think it’s part of what the fog of war causes.

Sure you have Hill. I mean with the Marines not letting you enlist, Cattle futures, Rose Billing records, and sniper fire in Tuzsla it is a wonder your PTSD is not much worse.

Yet not one reporter ever calls BS to her face.

arnold ziffel on October 16, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Hillary has already declared that the complete Foreign Policy Failure in Libya was/is her fault. WHY DOES SHE & RICE STILL HAVE A JOB IN THIS ADMINISTRATION?

Because GOP has NO BALLS. They are all talk, all the time. Its the liberals that usually cram crap down our throats whether it is justified or not. Actually, the latter all the time.

riddick on October 16, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Yet not one reporter ever calls BS to her face.

arnold ziffel on October 16, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Its should be GOP’s job in the first place.

riddick on October 16, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Hillary has already declared that the complete Foreign Policy Failure in Libya was/is her fault. WHY DOES SHE & RICE STILL HAVE A JOB IN THIS ADMINISTRATION?

Same reason Eric Holder still has a job, probably. Either:

1) Obama doesn’t care if his cabinet screws up and gets people killed, or

2) His appointees are concealing some truth he doesn’t want the public to know, and they might tell if he fired them.

Socratease on October 16, 2012 at 5:35 PM

US Ambassador lied to the American people… she should resign immediately…

Khun Joe on October 16, 2012 at 5:38 PM

It feels quite strange to have gone from “you’re either with us or against us” (Bush) to “sorry we have freedom of speech in our country!” (Obama) Please save us from these liberal creeps that despise America and have no idea what she stands for.

Deano1952 on October 16, 2012 at 5:39 PM

easyt55

The whole lot of them watched the drug mules who used the ATF handed off money to buy the guns in the gun shops in Az etal.

Hell they had the stores live on line in Holders office and others.

They had the parking lots live too, and they saw the hand off of the guns from the mules to the border jumpers who hauled the guns south.

Every last one of them is dirty head to foot.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on October 16, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Sick. of. the. lying. liars.

Philly on October 16, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Susan Rice is answerable to just 2 people in the entire world: President Obama and Valerie Jarrett.

No one except Obama or Jarrett ever tells her what to do, ever. You do the math.

I think and believe but dont know that Valerie Jarrett and Axelrod instructed Rice on what to say, i.e. blame the video.

Obama was probably told what Rice’s story to the talk shows would be, then nodded along not knowing or caring much who says what and when as long as the Vegas trip was still on.

Sacramento on October 16, 2012 at 5:41 PM

What did the president know and when did he know it? That’s what the question is, you liar. We know what happened. Why has he not yet addressed the nation? Is he scouring You Tube for another video clip to blame?

Philly on October 16, 2012 at 5:42 PM

What is it about Obama that makes him so LOYAL to tax cheats, criminals, merican militant organizations, & incompetent/criminal Cabinet/Administration officials?

He nominated numerous Tax Cheats for Cabinet positions after promising the ‘smoothest transition ever, only to have it bog down from having to weed out all the tax cheats! Even then he stayed loay to cheats like Lil’ Timmy Geithner, ensuring a TAX CHEA became the Sect of the Treasury.

He hadd hisDOJ step in & drop charges on Militant New Black Panther Party memebrs who were arrested for threatening voters with clubs during the 2008 elections at voting locations. Sure they endorsed him & he had the link to their web site on his web site for a while, before the media began getting wind of it…He also had the DOJ ignore the FELONY criminal act of putting a nation-wide BOUNTY on an American citizen this summer.

Eric Holder, DOJ Chief, committed 3 Felony acts of perjury before Congress in an attempt to hide the disasterous Fast & Furious program that resulted in a reported 300+ citizens….and he never fired him…

Hillary, Sect of State, has not admitted to being responsible for the worst Forign Policy incident – the 1st US Ambassador to be killed in 30 years…by the guards the State Dept hired to protect him – Obama has yet to take any action against her (or Rice, who has lied her buttocks off).

Obama proved he is for the UNIONS by stripping 20,000 NON-Union auto workers of their pensions during the Unio…er AUTO bailout. He proved he is for the New Black Panthers when he got criminal charges dropped once & ignored another criminal act. At the worst he proved he will coevr up for his Chief of the DOJ who incompetently runs a bad program which racks up a body count of 300+ and counting. he is proving that he will support & keep in his Cabinet a politician so incompetent at Foreign Affairs that she will abandon a U.S. Ambassador in a foreign country surrounded by terrorists/terrorist camps & will even hire terrorist sympathisers to guard him who will only help his assassins in the end!

Good LORD, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! If he doesn’t have the brains/b@lls to fire his collection of incompetent, criminal circus clowns it is hight time we ‘FIRE’ HIM!

easyt65 on October 16, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Because that’s the information with which the intelligence community provided her

Why was the UN Ambassador briefed by the intel community? Who called Rice and said “You need to get over here quick, we need to brief you on something!”?

Who briefed her? CIA? NSA? FBI? SecState? I’ll even throw in Axelrod, Jarret, or Obama himself. Why has no Cabinet level official made the talk show rounds, expelling the information from the intel community?

BobMbx on October 16, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Next time, try looking at Hot Gas for your intelligence Susan. If I remember right, it was pretty well sorted out as a deliberate 9/11 attack within the first 24 hours.

forest on October 16, 2012 at 5:44 PM

So I think that – I’ve seen it before not just in respect to this. I think it’s part of what the fog of war causes.

So we are at War with terrorists? Or is it at War with man made disasters? Or is it at War with a YouTube video?

I can’t keep up.

Odie1941 on October 16, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Never Forget the RINO’s.

Not one thing the commie Democrats got done on their evil quest to undo our constitution was done without the votes of the RINO’s.

We can disable the commie Democrats by just cleaning out our own Republican/Conservative house.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on October 16, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Never Forget the RINO’s.

Not one thing the commie Democrats got done on their evil quest to undo our constitution was done without the votes of the RINO’s.

We can disable the commie Democrats by just cleaning out our own Republican/Conservative house.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on October 16, 2012 at 5:50 PM

+1000

No other way around this. We failed to clean the House this time around, should have started with Boehner and Cantor…

riddick on October 16, 2012 at 5:59 PM

Romney can simply ask Obama during the debate why the British newspapers like the Telegraph and Guardian were carrying an accurate account of the Libyan tragedy while his White House was still insulting us with this whole YouTube movie explanation. Maybe the CIA briefs the foreign media before they brief the President cause it’s easier to get them to the daily intelligence briefing.

DaveDief on October 16, 2012 at 6:54 PM

This is hilarious! Only in the tiny little mind of a liberal does everything end when someone falls on their sword. The lies continue to be spread, as long as there’s a camera on to lie to. It doesn’t matter that every one of the lies have been contradicted, they’re sticking to the story and that’s that!
Update on:How to take on the Enemy media & Win: http://paratisiusa.blogspot.com/2012/09/an-open-letter-to-those-who-should-know.html?spref=tw

God Bless America!

paratisi on October 16, 2012 at 7:05 PM

This was Valerie J. all the way.

KirknBurker on October 16, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Can one of you CIA people please leak out O’s transcripts?

Come on already! Wouldn’t that be fun?

KirknBurker on October 16, 2012 at 7:56 PM

This is hilarious! Only in the tiny little mind of a liberal does everything end when someone falls on their sword.

paratisi on October 16, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Really? Care to point out just what happened to New Black Panthers in voter intimidation case? Fast and Furious? Solyndra? Whatever else one cares to point to under liberal admins going back to Clenis?

Who’s going to do something? You and I? Without GOP in Congress and Courts?

Please don’t tell me voting these criminals out of office is “punishment” of some sort when in reality they will live the rest of their lives all paid for by your and my taxes. And laughing about it during drug induced parties on either coast. And not serve a day for what they did, criminal as is it by any measure.

Yeah, they are shaking in their boots, all of them, with presidential pardons already printed and signed years ago.

You show them…

riddick on October 16, 2012 at 8:19 PM

To be kind to Rice,

Liar, liar, pants on fire

I have to say I know there’s been a lot of attention paid to who said what when, but I think what happened is more important. We were attacked, and four brave Americans were killed.

To be kind to Clinton:

You were not attacked. If you were attacked, roasted and s—-ized, your pack would be screaming bloody murder and there would probably be a State funeral on all three PBS channels

entagor on October 16, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Intelligence community meet bus, again… theres no way in heck i’d work for this administration if i was in the CIA or the FBI..they show disdain for our men and women in that community and it’s disgraceful

sadsushi on October 17, 2012 at 12:33 AM

I could swear at the end of the video Hilary was about to say “vast right wing conspiracy” instead of the “fog of war.”

dverplank on October 17, 2012 at 11:32 AM

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