Why Obama is likely to blow the second debate too

posted at 9:21 pm on October 15, 2012 by J.E. Dyer

The short answer is: because he’s got nothing.  There is no record to run on, no argument to make for four more years.  The ideology that drives him is outdated and bankrupt.  He has, in fact, implemented his policies – Republicans have had little means of stopping him – and those policies are the problem.

But there’s a slightly longer answer too.  Obama’s advisors will read the mainstream media assessment of the vice-presidential debate – they actually think a debate that turned women across America off of Biden was a draw, or a Biden win – and conclude that what the president needs to do is find his inner Joe Biden.  Appeal to his base by going on the attack, perhaps interrupting, being visibly annoyed at the trend of Romney’s statements, and vigorously asserting untruths in the interest of racking up effective soundbites.

Petulant attack-doggery isn’t Obama’s style, so I don’t predict that he will simply adopt the Biden posture for this week’s debate.  What I do think is that Obama and his handlers will be looking to enhance the president’s trademark pace and balance in public speaking (which does descend rather often into a sonorous drone) with more Biden-like spice.  This won’t come naturally to Obama, any more than his occasionally put-on “black accent” sounds natural.  It’s not who he is, and he won’t be good at it.

Of course, the townhall format this week can be worked to Obama’s advantage, and no doubt will be.   Obama need not be thrown softballs, but he will get questions framed to suit the answers he is likely to have – and he probably won’t be troubled much with questions framed in a confrontational manner.

Romney probably will be.  He will have to think more quickly on his feet, turning hostile questions into jumping-off points for getting his message across, while conveying a sense of goodwill and avoiding red herrings.  If there is a “silly question” for the debaters – say, “If you were an Oscar-winning movie, which one would you be?” – it may well be barbed with false implications about conservatism, Republicans, or even Romney himself.

Romney will have more choices to make in his approach and substance.  There are a lot of things he could say; what will be the most effective?  We can reasonably suppose he will perform again as well as he did in Debate 1.

Obama doesn’t have those choices, because he’s trying to stay in office – to tend cronies and inflict ideological constraints on the people – using arguments that don’t accurately represent what he’s been doing for nearly four years.  He has no intention of changing course, regardless of what the current course is inflicting on the American people.  Yet he can’t argue in the campaign for his current course – at least not to anyone but his base – because it is so ridden with failure and the scent of corruption.  Americans continue to turn against his signature legislation, ObamaCare, and even the New York Times is beginning to doubt the effectiveness of his foreign policy.

So we can expect to hear more about Romney giving a “$5 trillion tax break” to the richest Americans, along with the other canards about Romney-Ryan policy (e.g., tossing Grandma off the cliff) being trotted out over and over by the Obama campaign.  These mendacious soundbites have lost their impact, but what else does Obama have?  Personal attacks on Romney?

If the president makes a decision on retaliating in Libya before Tuesday night, he may be able to speak at the debate from a perspective of putative decisiveness, the commander-in-chief moving forces around.  A new line of tactical operations would blunt Romney’s justifiable criticism of how the White House has handled the whole matter.  I don’t foresee this dynamic winning the debate for Obama – a belated military response has little hope of trumping the public’s nearer-to-home concern about the US economy, the national debt, and constitutional freedoms – but if it comes off, it will probably be gratifying for his Amen corner in the MSM.

Gratifying them is not enough, however.  Whether he plays to his base or the MSM, Obama will not be playing to the constituency that matters: the majority of likely voters.  His appeal to that constituency in 2008 depended on his being an unknown quantity, and that’s what he no longer is.  Obama doesn’t have any more tricks in his bag.  This is it.

J.E. Dyer’s articles have appeared at The Green Room, Commentary’s “contentions,Patheos, The Weekly Standard online, and her own blog, The Optimistic Conservative.

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Over/Under he does even worse than last time?

Rebar on October 15, 2012 at 9:23 PM

First?

UncleZeb on October 15, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Dang, not quick enuf!

UncleZeb on October 15, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Also, no teleprompter for Barry, and he doesn’t do well when he has to pick his words for himself.

MidniteRambler on October 15, 2012 at 9:24 PM

If the president makes a decision on retaliating in Libya before Tuesday night,

If? drones launching before the debate. Watch.

CW on October 15, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Petulant attack-doggery isn’t Obama’s style,

What Obama have you been watching these last few years?

Jvette on October 15, 2012 at 9:26 PM

If Romney were an Oscar-winning movie, he would be Return of the King.

Ozwitch on October 15, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Nope, if he is doggy-wagging with Libya, he’s going to do it before next weeks debate, which is a real foreign policy debate. He will try to use the townhall format to publicly connect with the liberalish tendencies of the gallup-crowd.

Valkyriepundit on October 15, 2012 at 9:28 PM

What’s he going to “blow” it with?

listens2glenn on October 15, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Petulant attack-doggery isn’t Obama’s style,

But whiny petulance is.

And he only speaks “in pace and balance” when the words are rolling on the teleprompter screen.

Wethal on October 15, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Blew his wad (of cash and ideas) before the conventions.

Count to 10 on October 15, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Obama can come out close to Biden, but he cannot be Biden if he wants to win. The excuse for Biden was “Thats just Joe being Joe”. But Mr. Hope-n-Change can’t be like that. But he’ll come as clase as he thinks he can.
Romney needs to counter better than Ryan did. Hit Obama on how the same intelligence he is using to say Iran isn’t dangerous is the same intelligence he used to say there was a protest in Benghazi. How Obama says Romney is responsible for everything Bain Capitol has ever done, but Obama has never taken responsibility for the failures of his administration (Benghazi, fast and furious, Syria). How the NYTimes even says our aid to Syrian rebels is going to Al-Qaeda.
Romney should also take a chance or two and ask the president real questions. Like why does his budget project 47 trillion in spending over a decade or so. Or why Obama’s only plan to bring down the deficit is to tax the wealthy that will make up less than 10% of this years deficit.

Zaggs on October 15, 2012 at 9:30 PM

After his disastrous performance in go-round one; and the fawning sycophantic interruptions usefully discovered in debate two; no doubt Obungler’s MSM butt sniffers will ensure they put as much makeup as possible on this little red piggy.

Mr Galt on October 15, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Seriously, if the Left thinks Uncle Slow Joe’s performance is a winning formula then Romney just needs to keep from counting his chickens. Let Obama do the Biden routine.

NotCoach on October 15, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Ozwitch on October 15, 2012 at 9:28 PM

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I believe that’s a great analogy. . : )

listens2glenn on October 15, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Barry, like Charles at the NYT, blows.

bayview on October 15, 2012 at 9:32 PM

One hopes Romney has a few comments ready to get under Obama’s skin. Once the One is a little rattled, he starts falling apart, sniping, whining, etc.

Wethal on October 15, 2012 at 9:33 PM

The MSM absolutely will have to deem him the winner of this one no matter what, referencing the absolute magical spell he held over the audience. Yes, 0bama has his mojo back, and Romney’s in trouble again… that’s what we’ll hear. Whether more than the hard-core Kool-Aid drinkers believe them… well, we’ll see.

contrarian on October 15, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Portman did a bang-up job as coach the first time, and according to the NRO article, Olson really did spot-on imitation of Biden for Ryan.

Obama is probably practicing with the SNL Romney in mind.

Wethal on October 15, 2012 at 9:35 PM

Very well said! The Obama Campaign staffers we laughingly refer to as reporters, will spinning on his behalf. The “moderator”, will be trying to make news, for her performance, helping to save the Messiah. Does Obama have anything other than some chicago thug tactics? Can he win over the viewers, with lies, misinformation and whatever other desperate tactic, he can think of? Certainly better be ready to spin the living daylights out of the likely 2nd beating of Obama!
This is How the Repubs should go after the Enemy media: http://paratisiusa.blogspot.com/2012/09/an-open-letter-to-those-who-should-know.html?spref=tw

God Bless America!

paratisi on October 15, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Petulant attack-doggery isn’t Obama’s style

Huh?

Have you and I been watching the same Baracka Obama for the last 6 years?

ButterflyDragon on October 15, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Last time we heard “corporate jets” again, so maybe this time we’ll hear “cutting feet off for $20,000″.

PattyJ on October 15, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Obama: Reasons To Vote For Me!

1. Romney is rich.

2. I’ll save Big Bird.

3. Romney kills women with cancer.

4. I’ll raise taxes on the “evil rich” even though that might close the deficit by 4.38% – 6.25%, ceterus paribus, which is unlikely.

5. Republicans hate women.

6. I’ll give you 4 more years of THIS!!!

7. Mitt Romney is a liar.

8. Republicans will turn Medicare into a voucher programme even though I’m already doing that for 2 million of the poorest Medicare recipients!

9. Paul Ryan is evil.

10. “I think that I’m a better speechwriter than my speechwriters. I know more about policies on any particular issue than my policy directors. And I’ll tell you right now that I’m gonna think I’m a better political director than my political director.”

11. Romney “shoots first and aims later” (even though he was right and I lied to you for weeks)

12. Republicans are for dirty air and dirty water

13. My energy plan will cause electricity to “necessarily skyrocket” and I do want much higher gas prices as long as there is a “gradual adjustment.”

14. Republicans will “put y’all back in chains!”

15. Food stamps and unemployment insurance are the best economic stimuli!

Resist We Much on October 15, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Powerful, dramatic writing. I like finding J.E. Dyer on the home page more and more often. Nice job.

RushBaby on October 15, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Obama is Ishtar.

NOT an award winning movie.

Odie1941 on October 15, 2012 at 9:37 PM

16. Romney would fire Helicopter Ben a/k/a Osama ben Bernanke

17. Affirmative action is necessary to guard against a ‘return to good old-fashioned racism’ and “the question is not when does [affirmative action] end, but when does it begin. … When do people of color truly get the benefits to which they are entitled?”

18. Republicans would let Wall Street “run wild” wild cracking down on Sesame Street…even though my administration has prosecuted no one associated with the financial meltdown and 1,400 fewer major cases of financial fraud, malfeasance, deceptive practises, insider trading, etc., than the Bush administration did and our good buddy, Jon Corzine, is bundling a shitload of money for my campaign.

19. Climate change is the most important issue facing Americans so it will be the most important issue that I deal with in my second term.

20. Republicans want to nuke the world. I will unilaterally disarm the United States so that we can never again commit war crimes like we did in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

21. Mitt Romney is rich.

22. I still believe in Hope & Change!

23. Republicans don’t believe that there is a legal difference between violent rape and statutory rape when everyone knows that rape is different from “rape-rape”!

24. The future must not belong to those that defame Islam and the Prophet Mohammed, which is why my administration will sign onto a worldwide treaty that will criminalise even truthful criticism of Islam and the Prophet Mohammed and my esteemed Attorney General, Eric Holder, of whom my handpicked-choice to run to Democratic National Committee, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, has said, “objective and independent. And, make no mistake, Eric Holder is independent,” will argue for and convince the Supreme Court that the First Amendment does not protect speech that offends “Muslim sensibilities.”

Resist We Much on October 15, 2012 at 9:38 PM

25. Did I mention that Mitt Romney is rich…far richer than you unwashed masses can ever hope to be under this evil, capitalist system?

26. I will guarantee that you have health insurance because I will force you to purchase the exact kind that my government determines is right for you or require that you pay a tax…unless you are one of the 30 million Americans, who will still be uninsured after my Obama-Because-I-Care “universal” healthcare programme is fully implemented in 2016. Also, remember that health insurance does not mean healthcare. We can’t force doctors to continue to practise or to even treat you if they decide not to accept your type of insurance or Medicare/Medicaid. Nevertheless, Obama-Because-I-Care will cause everyone to have access to “good, quality healthcare” and middle-class families will see their premiums fall by $2,500 every year. C’mon, would I lie to you like Mitt Romney?

27. Mitt Romney will rip your lady parts out with his bare hands so vote like your lady parts depend on it! After all, feminists, the women’s movement was all about focusing on the body parts of women. It had nothing to do with jobs, incomes, education opportunities, career choices including being stay-at-home mums, etc, for women.

28. You get 4 more years of Joe Biden and he’s more comedic than Jon Stewart and just a heartbeat away from the nuclear football codes.

Resist We Much on October 15, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Disagree. The “Town Hall” format, especially with an incompetent liberal (BIRM) moderator, favors the candidate that can promise the most to the voters. No one is better at promising voters stuff paid for by other people than President Choom.

RoadRunner on October 15, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Let me be clear….

Tilly on October 15, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Complete misreading of event.

Romney is going to get buried in social wedge issue questions.

Obama just has to play his moderate self, unless Romney goes all Newt and starts calling Obama’s record infanticide.

Otherwise, Romney is going to be dodging abortion/ghey mirage/etc prog wedge issues all night.

If someone doesn’t think Aking is coming up, you’re highly mistaken.

This is going to be the Salem Witch Tea Party Trials.

Because it’s not about driving indies away from Romney, it’s about pissing his base off and driving a wedge between him and them.

budfox on October 15, 2012 at 9:39 PM

If Obama comes across mean and angry, he’ll lose more than he already has.

If Obama comes across weak and silly, he’ll lose more than he already has.

If Obama comes across forceful and gruff, he’ll lose more than he has already.

If Obama comes across folksy and jivey and “entertainer”-esque, he’ll lose more than he has already.

BECAUSE Obama has nothing. He’s got nothing. He won in 08 because he had no commpetition and a sucky-media polishing his nothingness, not to mention the Socialists in Europe.

Obama’s going to lose and the United States of America will be far better off with President Romney and Administration as also will our Allies be better off with President Romney and Obama out of the White House.

Obama has one big talent: ability to perform the teleprompter better than most. He can use that talent to sell Juicers on late night paid advertising.

Lourdes on October 15, 2012 at 9:40 PM

If Obama were a movie, Oscar-winning or not, it would be Plan 9 From Outer Space.

HiJack on October 15, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Because it’s not about driving indies away from Romney, it’s about pissing his base off and driving a wedge between him and them.

budfox on October 15, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Oh, haha, AS IF.

As in: not gonna’ happen. Maybe in your imagination but not in reality, not gonna’ happen.

Get accustomed to saying, “President Romney”.

Lourdes on October 15, 2012 at 9:41 PM

If Obama were a movie, Oscar-winning or not, it would be Plan 9 From Outer Space.

HiJack on October 15, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Or, “Alien Space Girls on Mars”.

Lourdes on October 15, 2012 at 9:42 PM

There is no and never was a man behind the curtain. Barack Obama is a shallow, conceited, poorly educated man; his oratory is empty, his sincerity is absent; and his character is mimetic. He plays at various roles (community organizer, intellectual, law lecturer, state legislator, Senator, President) but fulfills none. He is not capable of fulfilling any. To traduce Gertrude Stein’s phrase, he is our Oakland President; there is no there there.

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 9:42 PM

For the record, that is not my comment.

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 9:43 PM

There is no way on God’s green earth that Romney’s base is anywhere near being pissed off and not voting for him now. That’s dream land there.

Obama has no moderate self to play. He’s been ramping up the base for weeks now. Indies have seen and heard it all.

It will be over very soon.

Ozwitch on October 15, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Or rather, I cannot take credit for it.

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Tomorrow night, after the second Presidential debate has concluded, the Leftmedia will be boasting and crowing about how “Obama won” and “Obama was strong” and it’ll be the same flimsy nonsense as when they boasted that Biden was “the happy warrior”.

After about ten hours of that, through the night, on into early morning, reality will set in as it did with the Biden fiasco, and they’ll all be seriously hunching over trying to figure out how to keep the few viewers or readers they still have.

Lourdes on October 15, 2012 at 9:45 PM

budfox on October 15, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Hate to say it, but I think your predictions and your conclusion are right.

bofh on October 15, 2012 at 9:46 PM

I’m concerned that the President will get severely agitated and begin to channel his inner Reverend Wright (see, 2007 Katrina rant) and begin speaking in tongues.

Every rehab joint in Hollywood will have to go to 24/7 drive-thru hours to deal with the emotional trauma.

IndieDogg on October 15, 2012 at 9:47 PM

This debate is going to be President Choom’s “I feel your pain” moment; he’ll be promising everyone everything from womb to the tomb (unless you’re aborted). Remember, a liberal leftist moderator is picking the questions; you know President Choom will be getting the “What is your favorite color?” questions, while Romney will be asked to provide exact, detailed answers as to why he’s now against abortion when he was for it before; how, exactly, he’s going to solve all of the Middle East problems, including keeping Iran from getting nukes; and how he can square his Mormon religion with being a greedy conservative.

I don’t think I can watch this next debate.

RoadRunner on October 15, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Let me restate what I said in the Greenroom thread:

Romney is a successful man, and not by accident.
Barackabama’s claim to fame has nothing to do with him, but the color of his skin. He’s the zenith of affirmative action, and it shows.

SouthernGent on October 15, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Agree J E, 0 doesn’t even have nothing left.

Bmore on October 15, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Obama kept John Kerry as the faux Romney. I wouldn’t have done that.

I’m not getting my hopes up just yet. I am comforted by knowing Mitt is a very intelligent overachiever who loves this nation.

And Barry spent his formative years drunk in a Choomwagon.

Philly on October 15, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Three more weeks!

Three more weeks!

Lourdes on October 15, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Barry will do what Barry does best, PANDER.

GarandFan on October 15, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Republicans have had little means of stopping him

You’re saying this about a Congress that has used the filibuster to block every major piece of legislation?

Rainsford on October 15, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Romney completely destroyed the Obama/DNC built meme in the first debate. Talking about the “47%” or “Bain” will only show the electorate Obama has nothing to offer. If Obama bombs this debate (which I predict he will because you don’t become a good debater overnight) I predict the MSM will turn on him in an attempt to regain ‘creditability’ from the public for the Romney Administration!

Rndguy on October 15, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Hes going to smack into a second IceBerg,guarenteed!

And the collective MSM`s going to be beside themselves,
when he flames out,and stalls,and can`t re-light his engine!

F16 bird strike and eject
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN_Zl64OQEw

canopfor on October 15, 2012 at 9:52 PM

I predict plucking on heartstrings from lobbed softballs from gallup lib plants. There will be no shortage of victims in that crowd of “undecided’s” Mitt will get the equal but opposite.

The whole thing is one massive set-up.

wolly4321 on October 15, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Rope-a-dope

Knott Buyinit on October 15, 2012 at 9:54 PM

Let me just add one comment about wagging the dog here- It will not work.

Wagging the dog requires an inherent trust in the President and his administration. He can’t bomb something at this point to rally public opinion. Conversely, another terrorist attack on America or Americans would not rally support around the incumbent at this point.

At this point it is character attacks and lotsa luck with that when finding dirt about Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan. Both were touted as the Dems dream opponents and I’m beginning to understand the reason for that bluster. How do you attack the character or accomplishments of either?

Happy Nomad on October 15, 2012 at 9:54 PM

It’s impossible for Obama to do worse. Yet he keeps surprising me.

MrX on October 15, 2012 at 9:57 PM

I’m a little concerned about this debate. The Oprah format is tailor made for phoney shows of “caring” and appeals for “fairness.” Mitt doesn’t wear his heart on his sleeve and lacks the schmaltz that comes naturally to a born manipulator like Obama. Obama is going to be dripping with phony sentimentality and promises of unicorn powered jobs.

He is also going to be repeating, ad nauseum his lie about a $5 trillion dollar tax for the rich. I am sure that Mitt will counter it, but the accusation is all that will matter to many (especially the MSM), not the dishonesty of it or the refutation.

I suspect that at some point Obama will get a pointed question or two and go in to stutter … I’m thinking of a good lie … stutter mode. But it won’t be enough for Mitt to make his failure of leadership and lack of any ideas obvious enough to be the victory it was last time.

MJBrutus on October 15, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Powerful, dramatic writing. I like finding J.E. Dyer on the home page more and more often. Nice job.

RushBaby on October 15, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Agreed! He’s my favorite H/A contributor.

MJBrutus on October 15, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Agreed! He’s my favorite H/A contributor.

MJBrutus on October 15, 2012 at 10:00 PM

She, Bruti.

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 10:01 PM

She, Bruti.

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Is that right? Then I take it back :-)

MJBrutus on October 15, 2012 at 10:03 PM

I predict we’ll see a full blown nuclear melt down.

This is the guy who has been showered with unwarranted adoration through out his life.

This is a guy, that has never been told no.

This is the guy, who actually thought he won the last debate.

I think the cool moderate pragmatic character that he plays on television will crack during this debate. If not this one, then definitely the next.

We’re about to see the true Barack Obama I think.

jjrakman on October 15, 2012 at 10:05 PM

You’re saying this about a Congress that has used the filibuster to block every major piece of legislation?

Rainsford on October 15, 2012 at 9:50 PM

“Congress” has two chambers: One is the Senate. The other is the House. The House cannot filibuster anything.

Obama had 60 votes and, even when he didn’t, Republicans didn’t filibuster “every major piece of legislation.”

Did Republicans in the Senate stop 9 of the 12 FY 2009 appropriations bills (the other 3 were signed under Bush), the Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Stimulus Act of 2009, the Defence Supplemental of 06.09 loaded with pork, Cash-for-Clunkers, Cash-for-Caulkers, Unemployment Insurance extensions, the Making Home Affordable Act, ObamaCare, Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, the Children’s Health Insurance Program Reauthorisation Act, Omnibus Public Lands Management Act of 2009, the Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act of 2009, the Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act of 2009, the Helping Families Save Their Homes Act of 2009, the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act of 2009, the Cash For Clunkers Extension Act of 2009, the Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act of 2009, the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2009, the Ryan White HIV/AIDS Treatment Extension Act of 2009, the Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009, the Emergency Aid to American Survivors of Haiti Earthquake Act of 2010, the Travel Promotion Act of 2010, the Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment Act of 2010, the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010, the Caregivers and Veterans Omnibus Health Services Act of 2010, the Daniel Pearl Freedom of the Press Act, the Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability, and Divestment Act of 2010, the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act of 2010, the Improper Payments Elimination and Recovery Act of 2010, the SPEECH Act of 2010, the Small Business Jobs and Credit Act of 2010, etc?

Ever since cloture was adopted in 1918, only 5 presidents have had filibuster-proof Senates:

1. Wilson (67 votes)
2. FDR
3. LBJ
4. Carter (changed to 60 votes)
5. Obama

No Republican President has EVER had a filibuster-proof Senate; yet, — somehow — some way — they all managed to work together and get things done. They didn’t tell Democrats that they didn’t “mind if they came along for the ride, but they’d have to drink their Slurpees in the back” or “I won.”

If you want a one-party state, brutha/sista, move to North Korea.

Resist We Much on October 15, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Barry will do what Barry does best, PANDER.

GarandFan on October 15, 2012 at 9:49 PM

But which type of PANDER will he be? A Giant PANDER, or a (commie) Red PANDER?

Benedict Nelson on October 15, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Rainsford on October 15, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Where’s the beef budget?

Left Coast Right Mind on October 15, 2012 at 10:09 PM

There will be no shortage of victims in that crowd of “undecided’s” Mitt will get the equal but opposite.

The whole thing is one massive set-up.

wolly4321 on October 15, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Indeed. Who the hell is undecided at this point?
They are largely voting Republican, but don’t want to publicly admit it (and, hence, will not be asking questions); or they are Democrat plants looking to influence the opinion of the truly sad undecided voters.

Droopy on October 15, 2012 at 10:10 PM

of course barry can win.

candy will do the question selection

the questions will be from former Obama voters (does anyone think that mccain voters are undecided?

candy will attack mitt most of the night…the press will fawn over the comeback kid.

all barry has to do is NOT look dwon, LOOK at the camera and SMILE to remind the peasants of how cute/handsome he is

all barry has to do is LOOK engaged, like he CARES.

is it a low bar…yeah, buy this is barry we are talking about, the master of low bars

and if he is pleasant, SMILES at the camera, and as the media GUSHES…yes, he’ll get a bounce

r keller on October 15, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Or rather, I cannot take credit for it.

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Nevertheless, it is great.

bluealice on October 15, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Does anyone still remember that Obama’s closing statement from the 1st debate basically was “hey, I wasn’t perfect, but I’m gonna keep trying?”

The irony is that statement is probably as honest a message of Obama’s campaign for reelection as anyone has given so far. And that’s pretty much all he can really say in this next debate too.

tkyang99 on October 15, 2012 at 10:13 PM

I was thinking something similar after the Biden debate.

Two Possibilities:
Obama has to come out swinging which excites the base and hurts his likability index.
Obama tries to be Mr. Nice Guy with the middle feeling indifferent to him and his base thinking he has quit and that Biden did a better job.

Other possibilities, but I think they require Obama to know his materiel better than Romney. I just don’t believe it.

ArkyDore on October 15, 2012 at 10:13 PM

We’re about to see the true Barack Obama I think.

jjrakman on October 15, 2012 at 10:05 PM

He’s shown us so many different personalities over the past four years, I can’t help but wonder which “true Barack Obama” will appear on stage.

Personally, I’m hoping for the Southern Black Preacher Obama, with the “amen corner” thrown in for good measure.

GrannyDee on October 15, 2012 at 10:14 PM

The 47% will make a prominent appearance tomorrow, and this is how it will appear: a lower-middle class woman with children will ask a question about government help or state that she’s struggling. Obama will respond and will directly tell the woman that she is one of Romney’s 47% that he doesn’t care about her problems.

The reason it didn’t get mentioned in the first debate was that the Obama camp feels this line of attack is super powerful. The problem for them is that Romney has had a really long time to prepare a tested response to it.

strictnein on October 15, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Agreed! He’s my favorite H/A contributor.

MJBrutus on October 15, 2012 at 10:00 PM

She, Bruti.

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Lest I be mistaken, that’s the second time I’ve seen MJBrutus refer to J.E. as a male. Having already been corrected for it once previously. Only three things are possible. One, I am mistaken and it wasn’t MJBrutus. Two, it was MJBrutus and he is trying to snark J.E. . Three MJBrutus is losing his memory. Or has already lost it.

Bmore on October 15, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Bmore on October 15, 2012 at 10:14 PM

I respect J.E. and it wasn’t snark. Number 3 is a strong possibility. I would add 4, that I missed the prior correction, but I’m sticking with 3.

MJBrutus on October 15, 2012 at 10:16 PM

What Obama have you been watching these last few years?

Jvette on October 15, 2012 at 9:26 PM

I was thinking the same thing. Then I remembered, he doesn’t attack debate opponents. He attacks straw men. He can erect a few straw men in a debate, but Romney is smart enough and quick enough to handle that. Attacks aren’t going to work.

The Rogue Tomato on October 15, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Obama has no hiding places.

If he pivots to education, Romney destroys him with best in the nation schools in MA, while Chicago schools are among the worst.

If he pivots to cap-and-trade, he’ll get drilled on the EPA zealots of that fake religion.

If he pivots to women, Romney will say the way to better their lives is with high-paying jobs, not cater to their lady parts.

Really the only place left for Obama to extoll a “positive” future is to retreat to gay marriage.

John the Libertarian on October 15, 2012 at 10:22 PM

The short answer is: because he’s got nothing. There is no record to run on, no argument to make for four more years. The ideology that drives him is outdated and bankrupt. He has, in fact, implemented his policies – Republicans have had little means of stopping him – and those policies are the problem.

If you really believe this, you’re suffering from a severe anal/cranial inversion. The ideology that drives him is we’re all in this together, he’s tried to work with Republicans and just keeps coming up against a big wall of No. We can’t even get benefits for the veterans the GOP loves to pander to.

The Republican party has nothing. It has become simply an instrument the wealthy try to wield to lower their tax bill, and Romney is the blunt business end (pun intended) of that instrument. However, the weapon is hollow. The Romney/Ryan ticket can’t even make their basic math work, or even explain their math.

You’d better hope Obama has another uncharacteristically off day, or the high you’ve been on since the last debate is going to turn into a real wicked hangover.

Constantine on October 15, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Re: Movie Titles-
Obama: The Grapes of Wrath or Gone with the Wind
Romney: Mr. Smith goes to Washington

3dpuzzman on October 15, 2012 at 10:23 PM

I respect J.E. and it wasn’t snark. Number 3 is a strong possibility. I would add 4, that I missed the prior correction, but I’m sticking with 3.

MJBrutus on October 15, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Fair enough. Lol!

Bmore on October 15, 2012 at 10:24 PM

Yankees-Detroit will be playing concurrently tomorrow night, audience should be down somewhat from first debate.

I think Obama will be more lackluster than his supporters expect.

matthew8787 on October 15, 2012 at 10:25 PM

J.E. ,,, does she look like S.E.? I needs to know…

wolly4321 on October 15, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Constantine on October 15, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Sweet tears.

Bmore on October 15, 2012 at 10:26 PM

If you really believe this, you’re suffering from a severe anal/cranial inversion. The ideology that drives him is we’re all in this together, he’s tried to work with Republicans and just keeps coming up against a big wall of No. We can’t even get benefits for the veterans the GOP loves to pander to.

The Republican party has nothing. It has become simply an instrument the wealthy try to wield to lower their tax bill, and Romney is the blunt business end (pun intended) of that instrument. However, the weapon is hollow. The Romney/Ryan ticket can’t even make their basic math work, or even explain their math.

You’d better hope Obama has another uncharacteristically off day, or the high you’ve been on since the last debate is going to turn into a real wicked hangover.

Constantine on October 15, 2012 at 10:22 PM

Somebody has cranial-rectal disorder all right, first two years of his administration and he had a filibuster proof majority, president I won, no shut up, remember… Now he can’t even get one single Democrat to vote for “His” budget.

SWalker on October 15, 2012 at 10:27 PM

Lest I be mistaken, that’s the second time I’ve seen MJBrutus refer to J.E. as a male.

Bmore on October 15, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Funny. When I lived in Portland, the mayor was J.E. ‘Bud’ Clark.

Fast forward 20 something years and the mayor of Whorelando is Buddy Dyer.

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 10:29 PM

SWalker on October 15, 2012 at 10:27 PM

I believe Constinteen to be trolling.

Bmore on October 15, 2012 at 10:30 PM

I predict we’ll see a full blown nuclear melt down.

We’re about to see the true Barack Obama I think.

jjrakman on October 15, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Oh, pweeze, Santa? I will be vwerry, vwerry good gurl!

Chewy the Lab on October 15, 2012 at 10:30 PM

Funny. When I lived in Portland, the mayor was J.E. ‘Bud’ Clark.

Fast forward 20 something years and the mayor of Whorelando is Buddy Dyer.

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 10:29 PM

That is funny! You just can’t make that stuff up. ; )

Bmore on October 15, 2012 at 10:31 PM

…the MSM…the moderator…who knows the background of those from the “audience” that will ask the questions…I think Daniel will be in the lions den…I’m nervous!

KOOLAID2 on October 15, 2012 at 10:32 PM

“we’re all in this together”.

No we’re not. Get your hand off my wallet. Work or starve. Honestly, I don’t care which you choose.

wolly4321 on October 15, 2012 at 10:33 PM

He is also going to be repeating, ad nauseum his lie about a $5 trillion dollar tax for the rich. I am sure that Mitt will counter it, but the accusation is all that will matter to many (especially the MSM), not the dishonesty of it or the refutation.

MJBrutus on October 15, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Nah, he got smoked when he tried that last time. Romney just said “dude, how many times do I have to tell you, I don’t have a $5 trillion tax cut! That’s not my plan. Get it straight! You’re like my 5 boys* when they’re trying to hit me and Ann up for cash, and they just say over and over again that ‘it wasn’t me that totaled the car, it was Tagg!’ hoping that I’ll believe it eventually.”**

Even CNN called him out on his lie.

No, I’m more worried about the 47% thing. Romney does need to diffuse it. I’m only a little worried though – he’s been pretty articulate, and as long as he reassures people that he understands their problems in concrete ways, with specific examples, he’ll probably be fine.

*racist (obligitory)

*dramatization, may not have occurred.

RINO in Name Only on October 15, 2012 at 10:33 PM

It won’t matter how Zero does this time, it will be framed as a win.

goflyers on October 15, 2012 at 10:34 PM

I hope we get to see that wild-eyed ANGRY Obama. That will really be appealing.

/ (actually I do hope that so all that “likeability” BS can be exposed for the stupidity it’s been drenched in since it first showed up!)

UnderstandingisPower on October 15, 2012 at 10:34 PM

we’re all in this together

Fund your utopia without me.

Resist We Much on October 15, 2012 at 10:35 PM

“we’re all in this together”.
No we’re not. Get your hand off my wallet. Work or starve. Honestly, I don’t care which you choose.
wolly4321 on October 15, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Ah yes, that’s the conservative caricature we know and love. Beware the 47% freeloaders, man!

Constantine on October 15, 2012 at 10:35 PM

…I think Daniel will be in the lions den…I’m nervous!

KOOLAID2 on October 15, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Remind me Kool, how did that work out for Daniel?

Bmore on October 15, 2012 at 10:36 PM

If Obama were a movie, Oscar-winning or not, it would be Plan 9 From Outer Space.

HiJack on October 15, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Except that movie is fun to watch.

SagebrushPuppet on October 15, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Obiden was framed as a win too… but the polls showed, with independents, WOMEN found him rude and bullish. They didnt like it. 58% said that.

kcd on October 15, 2012 at 10:37 PM

The audience apparently consists of undecided voters.
We’re talking weapons grade stupidity to be undecided at this point.

justltl on October 15, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Constantine on October 15, 2012 at 10:22 PM

…Hey LOOK!…^^^…a new dumbazz!
Someone forget to flush the toilet?

KOOLAID2 on October 15, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Ah yes, that’s the conservative caricature we know and love. Beware the 47% freeloaders, man!

Constantine on October 15, 2012 at 10:35 PM

When you were a little girl growing up, we’re you the perfect caricature of the little girls we all know and love?

Bmore on October 15, 2012 at 10:38 PM

A possible “silly” question for the candidates: “Which is your favorite Sesame Street character?”

Romney should answer: “The Count, because I love to count.” He should then start listing debt added, jobs lost, unemployment %s, etc.

bhj on October 15, 2012 at 10:40 PM

justltl on October 15, 2012 at 10:38 PM

You got that right. It takes a special kind of dumb to not even be able to make up your mind after 4 long years of Obama.

MJBrutus on October 15, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Obama Movie:

WALL STREET VS SESAME STREET
THE SMACKDOWN!

kcd on October 15, 2012 at 10:41 PM

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