Quotes of the day

posted at 10:49 pm on October 15, 2012 by Allahpundit

One senior Democratic official expressed real concern tonight unlike I have heard before about Ohio potentially slipping away from Obama (the state has been trending Republican in statewide races, Rob Portman has become a force, religious and gun groups are flooding the state with voter contacts, two of Romney’s top strategists have recently won a statewide race there, etc).

This doesn’t mean Romney has the upper hand right now. But it is no longer at all implausible that he could take the three Southern battlegrounds and Ohio. If he does that, he sure as heck would have the upper hand. And that leaves at least some Democrats with the shakes.

***

In a stark warning on the eve of the second presidential debate, veteran Democratic strategists Stanley B. Greenberg and James Carville write in a newly released memo that the campaign “has reached a tipping point” that could cost President Obama reelection if he does not present a more compelling vision for the next four years…

In an interview, Greenberg said that at the first debate, Mitt Romney caused many voters who are worried about the nation’s direction to view him in a new light, mostly by convincing them he had aggressive plans to improve the economy — even as Obama conveyed little about goals of his own. After the debate, Greenberg said, undecided and loosely committed voters “are looking at Romney. Before [the debate] I thought they were trying to get to Obama. But I don’t think that’s true anymore. I think now they are considering Romney, which is why the next debate is pretty critical.”

***

Obama has two big problems going into the second showdown with Romney. One, he needs to win just to level the score. And two, even if he wins at Hofstra, it’s likely the second debate will have fewer viewers and receive less attention than the first. So the president actually needs not only to win, but to win big to return to an equal debate footing with Romney after the disaster in Denver…

The strategist wants to see a forceful Obama — a really forceful Obama — take on Romney. “The ’47 percent,’ he ought to be shoving up Romney’s a–,” the Democrat says. “Romney can say he apologized. But Obama can say an apology doesn’t change things. Romney didn’t misspeak. That was a two-minute oration that basically gave Romney’s view of America.”…

“You can overcompensate, and he has to be careful not to,” the Democratic strategist says. “You can’t go from being a pussycat to a pit bull.”

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Obama’s biggest problem, however, may not be Romney but the debate’s format, which couldn’t be more difficult for an incumbent mounting a comeback. The second debate will be town-hall-style, where a selected audience of undecided voters asks the questions, many of which will likely focus on the president’s tenure.

Hence, Obama must figure out how to defend his record before the crowd, focusing most of his attention on his individual questioners, while at the same time attacking Romney—and all without overdoing the negativism that typically doesn’t play well in such formats. Pulling that off may be the only way the president can prove to the millions of Americans watching on TV that he can do what he failed to accomplish last week in Denver: effectively counter the insurgent across from him on the stage…

In a town-hall format, an attack strategy risks annoying the audience, Sabato says. In Richmond, he adds, “members of the audience could be seen openly rebelling when the candidates got too negative.”

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[A]lmost all the damage in town hall-style presidential debates is self-inflicted. The only way to win is to allow your opponent to make mistakes

If Obama is listening to the advice of countless media pundits that suggest he ought to come out more aggressively–and all signs are that he will try to do just that–then he is heading for trouble. Not only is Romney at his best when being attacked, but attacking Romney in front of a group of real-life voters will seem petty and will likely reinforce perceptions of Obama as running a negative campaign without new ideas or proposals.

Similarly, if Romney listens to his innumerable critics who describe him as out of touch with ordinary people (based on very little evidence), and tries too hard to “empathize” with the people in the room, he may end up looking foolish. Yet he cannot be passive, either, and rest on his laurels, because that will lend credence to the media’s narrative.

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Until just over a week ago, President Obama’s campaign was on the cusp of doing something unprecedented in modern presidential politics: turning the election into a referendum on the challenger, Mitt Romney. Why is that so special? Because every prior example of an incumbent running for reelection in recent times has wound up being a referendum on the guy in the White House…

His advisers have long believed that a weary public has no patience for grand ideas or presidential self-applause. So Obama’s strategy has focused primarily on going after Romney—until last week, with remarkable success.

But Romney’s debate performance and his subsequent revival suggest that voters do have an appetite for big ideas and promises, no matter how vaguely defined. Unless Obama begins to offer a few of his own, there’s little reason to assume that a referendum on his presidency will turn out the way he hopes.

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[H]is problem is this: In Denver he didn’t just lose a debate—he lost the carefully cultivated illusion of a larger-than-life figure who was Lincoln and FDR and Moses all wrapped in one.

Some 67 million Americans were watching on TV. What they saw was the scene from the Wizard of Oz, when Dorothy’s dog pulls back the curtain to reveal there is no wizard at all, just a man from the Midwest who pumped himself up into something far beyond his mortal self—and got the whole of Oz to believe it…

In the two remaining debates, Mr. Obama will surely be more assertive, more competitive, and more engaged than he was in round one. But this time the curtain has been pulled back and the aura is gone. That means Mr. Obama’s Republican opponent—for the first time in two presidential contests—will finally be contesting a mere mortal, not a wizard of his own Oz.

***

Everyone loves a comeback, and just as pundits and reporters found one after the first debate in Denver in the GOP nominee’s strong performance, Romney and GOP operatives argue that the same will hold true of the president following Tuesday’s second round on Long Island.

A senior Romney adviser predicted that “It’s going to be very hard to find observers to say [Obama] was just as bad as he was in the first debate…. the last debate sort of lowered a lot of expectations in the minds of many observers.”

“Perhaps Romney’s biggest challenge will be overcoming a Gang of 500 who would love nothing more than reporting ‘Obama wins round by KO’ lede,’” concurred Brad Dayspring, a GOP strategist and adviser to the YG Action Fund. “Obama the comeback kid is a very appealing story line.”

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Via Pew.

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Obama lies and is a criminal, but it’s all ok because he is the first Black President.

Joe Biden, Paul Ryan and Bibi’s “Red Line” time line.

SWalker on October 15, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Obama will end his professional political career the way it started…

With a loss…

MGardner on October 15, 2012 at 10:53 PM

Hit him Mitt!

KOOLAID2 on October 15, 2012 at 10:53 PM

And that leaves at least some Democrats with the shakes.

Let’s leave all of the Democrats with the shakes, come November 6.

disa on October 15, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Oiho is lost to Romney.

Obama has a lock…

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Mitt Romney caused many voters who are worried about the nation’s direction to view him in a new light, mostly by convincing them he had aggressive plans to improve the economy — even as Obama conveyed little about goals of his own.

If Obama conveyed his true goals, few people would vote for him.

disa on October 15, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Just because a friend made me remember this. Daniel.

Bmore on October 15, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 10:55 PM

You forgot the /sarc tag…

disa on October 15, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Obama, the sissy, is the pro forma president.

“The buck stops here” said the real president, Hillary, tonight.

Funny, how the unerdeveloped narcissistic teenage eunuch hides behind pantsuit. Laugh him out of town, mocked into oblivion, so as to never repeat such a hoax/pox upon the good land.

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 10:57 PM

disa on October 15, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Good/excellent sarc does not necessitate tags.

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 10:58 PM

You forgot the /sarc tag…

disa on October 15, 2012 at 10:56 PM

No, I forgot the gumbo timestamp.

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 10:58 PM

Obama is the incestual child of the media and the DNC, and it shows.

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 10:59 PM

Where’s Bishop? ;)

Who is John Galt on October 15, 2012 at 10:59 PM

I hope Dear Leader follows Axelrod’s advice…

d1carter on October 15, 2012 at 10:59 PM

Does Mitt want to win?……….keep it up and don’t apologize.

If he doesn’t blow it……it would be WAY WAY out of character for this party.

Let Obamas mask slip some more…….amen.

PappyD61 on October 15, 2012 at 10:59 PM

unerdeveloped underdeveloped narcissistic

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 11:00 PM

Oiho is lost to Romney.

Obama has a lock…

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 10:55 PM

I see you got hold of the newest poll before G&P.

RickB on October 15, 2012 at 11:00 PM

May Obama go feisty all the way.

Be yourself Obama. Your base needs the satisfaction.

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Stomp his guts out, Mitt.

I freaking detest libs. They keep pushing. I’ve had all I can take. In one lifetime, mine, I have seen liberty utterly destroyed.

Warning to libs,,, back off.

wolly4321 on October 15, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Obama is screwed. If he comes out swinging, he’s going to look mean, not strong. If he doesn’t, he’s going to look like the panty waist he is. There really isn’t any other option. Popcorn time!

Chewy the Lab on October 15, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Obama has a lock…

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Isn’t this violent?

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Obama’s problems are many:

He is not the empty slate upon which millions of Americans can project their myriad of hopes, dreams and aspirations.

He no longer has his magic. It is gone and he will never get it back.

He has a record and it isn’t one that he can run on or even wants to…evidently. If he did, he would be.

He doesn’t have a second-term agenda. He hasn’t given people a reason to vote for him.

A year ago, his campaign laid out what their strategy would be:

KILL ROMNEY.

That’s it.

Whether you like his plan or not, Romney is talking about building something up. Obama is only talking — and has spent 4+ years talking — about tearing someone down. During this campaign, it has been Romney. Earlier, it was the Tea Party, corporate fatcats, corporate jet owners, bitterclingers, those that opposed illegal immigration, opponents of Obamacare, doctors, insurance companies, small business owners, etc.

Optimism always beats negativism.

Resist We Much on October 15, 2012 at 11:02 PM

The blacks and the ‘rats put all their eggs into this unaccomplished fool.

I can almost give the blacks kind of a pass (it’s a Florida thing) but supposedly intelligent ‘rat power brokers?

I got me some Schadenfreude.

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 11:02 PM

Funny, how the underdeveloped narcissistic teenage eunuch hides behind pantsuit. Laugh him out of town, mocked into oblivion, so as to never repeat such a hoax/pox upon the good land.

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Still, better than he deserves.

Bmore on October 15, 2012 at 11:03 PM

I see you got hold of the newest poll before G&P.

RickB on October 15, 2012 at 11:00 PM

Yep. Hasn’t even been taken yet in this universe.

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Obama can come out any which way he wants.

He has nothing to show for in 4 years, nada.

He never promised Obama’care’ – that’s the only thing he had passed, by shenanigans. It’s not delivered, not yet. The misery will ensue later, most of it.

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 11:03 PM

The general consensus of “Don’t Tread on Me!” is gonna win.

Who is John Galt on October 15, 2012 at 11:04 PM

A little something for the moderator.

LOL

Too early?

Fallon on October 15, 2012 at 11:04 PM

I’m kinda nervous for Mitt tomorrow. I know he can do it but man talk about hostile territory.

Here’s hoping Obama is Biden on roids tomorrow.

gophergirl on October 15, 2012 at 11:04 PM

Oiho

That must be one of the 57 states Odummer mentioned

kcd on October 15, 2012 at 11:04 PM

Still, better than he deserves.

Bmore on October 15, 2012 at 11:03 PM

I have the perfect comment at my fingertips, alas.

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 11:05 PM

*************************** ALERT **************************

Justice Department: No role for courts in Fast and Furious contempt fight – @politico

1 min ago from http://www.politico.com by editor
=============================================

DOJ: No role for courts in Fast and Furious contempt fight
10/15/12 10:50 PM EDT
***********************

The federal courts have no authority to intervene in the dispute that led to President Barack Obama asserting executive privilege for the first time in the context of a Congressional inquiry, the Justice Department argued in a legal brief filed Monday night.

Soon after that assertion of privilege in June, the House voted to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress for failing to turn over documents related to a House probe of the Fast and Furious gunrunning scandal.

The Justice Department brief

(posted here)

http://images.politico.com/global/2012/10/holderfastfurioussuitbrf.html

argues that the executive branch’s decision not to comply with such subpoenas or portions thereof cannot be second-guessed or rejected by the judiciary—a sweeping claim of executive power that aligns the Obama administration with the stance President George W. Bush’s administration took in a similar dispute in 2008.
(More…..)
============

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2012/10/doj-no-role-for-courts-in-fast-and-furious-contempt-138539.html

canopfor on October 15, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Obama has nothing to run on. No post 2012 agenda. He only has the “I’m not a Republican” schtick, which is well worn out.

The Obama experiment is almost over.

portlandon on October 15, 2012 at 11:05 PM

This is a TownHall format. The ‘come out swinging’ line is a squirrel.

Obama will have to be empathetic to the questioner. Be one of the little guys.

faraway on October 15, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Is Oiho one of the 57 states?

Gracelynn on October 15, 2012 at 11:06 PM

I got R&R election mail from a PAC today. I’m in an urban area in MN. First piece of election mail I’ve received for any race.

Apparently someone thinks it’s money well spent.

gophergirl on October 15, 2012 at 11:06 PM

By the way, WHY are they holding the debate in a blue state??!! They should be holding it in an undecided, swing state!

kcd on October 15, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Oiho is lost to Romney.

Obama has a lock…

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 10:55 PM

.
Has your little friend come out to play today?

PolAgnostic on October 15, 2012 at 11:06 PM

OK. This place is movin’ kinna slow.

So a blast from the recent past is in order.

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Hubby swears he’s a total flamer and everyone knows it. I’m thinking, “Am I really that naive? Yeah, he likely bats for the other team, but he’s been trying to deny it to himself for, well, forever.”

Chewy the Lab on October 15, 2012 at 11:07 PM

************ ALERT *********

Poll: Obama, Romney tied in New Hampshire – @PoliticalTicker

1 min ago from politicalticker.blogs.nn.com by editor
============================================================

http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on October 15, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Zero can’t do anything aside from TOTUS other than say, “Uh, Um, we will, ah, um, ahh….”.

Toast. Smell victory, and GOT(r)V!

Who is John Galt on October 15, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Has your little friend come out to play today?

PolAgnostic on October 15, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Sure. Every pole thread.

Ain’t that right, gumbyandpokey?

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 11:10 PM

canopfor on October 15, 2012 at 11:05 PM

HC and M??? Me thinks much so. At the very least, abuse of power.

Chewy the Lab on October 15, 2012 at 11:11 PM

The GOPe will betray you!..:)

Dire Straits on October 15, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Obama operatives infested my neigborhood last weekend. I live in a pure blue district of Northern Virginia.

You don’t register by parties here but you can get a list of those who voted for one party or another in the primaries. I got approached by Romney supporters early on but it is unprecedented that Dems would be going begging for votes in Arlington. I think the internals are much more dire than what we see in the press so far as Virginia goes anyway.

Happy Nomad on October 15, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Too early?

Fallon on October 15, 2012 at 11:04 PM

Never too early to swap candies. ; )

Bmore on October 15, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Lol! I keep telling people that it’s not Obama’s show. No matter what he does, he’ll do better than the Debacle in Denver and the spin machine will be pushing the meme that Obama won & made up ground lost in the first debate. As a matter of convenience, Axelrod’s already had most of the post debate articles written & emailed to the proper campaign staffer, er…, uh… reporter.
Udate on How to take on the Enemy media & Win: http://paratisiusa.blogspot.com/2012/09/an-open-letter-to-those-who-should-know.html?spref=tw

God Bless America!

paratisi on October 15, 2012 at 11:12 PM

It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.

Thomas Sowell

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 11:12 PM

canopfor on October 15, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Thanks for the link!..R&R 2012..:)

PS..Good Evening..:)

Dire Straits on October 15, 2012 at 11:13 PM

I have the perfect comment at my fingertips, alas.

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 11:05 PM

; ) me too, oddly enough.

Bmore on October 15, 2012 at 11:13 PM

The Candy Man

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Is Oiho one of the 57 states?

Gracelynn on October 15, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Yes, but it took the place of Hawaii after we gave it away to Asia. The seven others are:

1. Sneezyvania
2. Sleepystan
3. Dopeyland
4. DocMaarten
5. Happyland
6. Bashfulornia
7. Grumpyork

Collectively, they are located in the “My Little Progressive Ponyland” region of the United States.

Resist We Much on October 15, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Obama operatives infested my neigborhood last weekend.

Happy Nomad on October 15, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Speaking of infested, I just went out to my shed and found the birdseed all over the floor and a cute little rat running up the wall.

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 11:14 PM

I wonder if the Gallup picked undecides that have to have their questions handpicked by Candy Crowley will be allowed to clap tomorrow? Byron York/Washington Examiner said they received a lengthy campaign email listing everything OfA says Romney should have been questioned on….basically saying this is what Obama is going to be looking to go after Obama on tomorrow night.

I don’t see how it will happen in a TownHall format but we are less that 24 hours away.

Now I just need to get the snacks in.

CoffeeLover on October 15, 2012 at 11:14 PM

PS..Good Evening..:)

Dire Straits on October 15, 2012 at 11:13 PM

Good evening Dire. We got cut off in mid conversation last evening. Lol!

Bmore on October 15, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Hopefully, somebody says hey to Scrumpy soon.

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 11:15 PM

“I take responsibility for the “glitch” on HA QOTD”
Hillary Clinton..:)

Dire Straits on October 15, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Bmore on October 15, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on October 15, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Resist We Much on October 15, 2012 at 11:14 PM

You witty lady, you!

That Newsweek cover – no, only stupid women will vote for Obama.

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 11:16 PM

I’m kinda nervous for Mitt tomorrow. I know he can do it but man talk about hostile territory.

Here’s hoping Obama is Biden on roids tomorrow.

gophergirl on October 15, 2012 at 11:04 PM


LOL!

Romney survived the Republican primaries to win the nomination.

Who would make you more nervous in a public setting?

Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, Ron Paul, Herman Cain etc with thousands of red meat conservatives and a liberal moderator?

Or

The SCOAMF, Candy Crowley and several hundred liberals who are nowhere near as smart as they think they are?

Yes, there are risks tomorrow … but this isn’t Romney first rodeo.

PolAgnostic on October 15, 2012 at 11:16 PM

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/10/flotus-reach-out-to-knuckleheads-tell-them-to-vote-138508.html

No description of Barry’s base is more apt.

bayview on October 15, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Apparently someone thinks it’s money well spent.

gophergirl on October 15, 2012 at 11:06 PM

With all due respect to you and your brilliant opinions on HA. MN is nuts. You have had people voting for the lizard people. You elected WWF and SNL stars. I don’t know if it is the system or the cold weather but you all are insane!

Happy Nomad on October 15, 2012 at 11:17 PM

The Candy Man

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 11:14 PM

I’ll see your candy man and raise you one candy-o.

Bmore on October 15, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Hi Scrumpy.

SparkPlug on October 15, 2012 at 11:18 PM

I’d LOVE to see 0dumbo with spittle flying off his purple lips, and his eyes rolling back in his head, becoming unhinged in front of the normal folk. It’s Jiffy Pop time, people!

Sasha List on October 15, 2012 at 11:18 PM

You witty lady, you!

That Newsweek cover – no, only stupid women will vote for Obama.

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Merci, mon ami!

Resist We Much on October 15, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Magic 8 ball says:

Dave is not here.

SparkPlug on October 15, 2012 at 11:18 PM

/flotus-reach-out-to-knuckleheads

No description of Barry’s base is more apt.

bayview on October 15, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Heh. ‘Knuckleheads’ is code for the n-word amongst the cops.

And I will bet she knows it.

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Well expect to see:47%,Bain,flip/flop, rich, taxes…

sandee on October 15, 2012 at 11:19 PM

SparkPlug on October 15, 2012 at 11:18 PM

We also have a scrappy.

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 11:19 PM

I’m kinda nervous for Mitt tomorrow. I know he can do it but man talk about hostile territory.

gophergirl on October 15, 2012 at 11:04 PM

I’m not nervous for Mitt. Remember, he was the Governor of the People’s Republic of Massachusetts. He had to deal with a legislature that was about 87% Democrat AND with constituents who consider themselves somewhat to the left of Marx, Lenin, and Castro. Not everyone in the audience may like him, but he knows how to communicate with liberals. He won’t be in unfamiliar territory.

joejm65 on October 15, 2012 at 11:19 PM

It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.

– Thomas Sowell

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 11:12 PM

That is Founder’s profound.

TXUS on October 15, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Gallup: “Hey midgets, gin up the D+25 polls.”

faraway on October 15, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Heh, bayview

FLOTUS: Reach out to ‘knuckleheads,’ tell them to vote

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 11:20 PM

in a newly released memo that the campaign “has reached a tipping point” that could cost President Obama reelection if he does not present a more compelling vision for the next four years…

Help him Hollywood. Show us the wonders of 3rd world marxist dictatorships . Show us how Hussein needs to emulate Idi Amin and Robert Mugabe . Tell us how wonderful life is in NoKo. Spin tales about the wonderful lives for women under Hussein’s brothers.
You can do it Hollywood !!

burrata on October 15, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Very easy to combat the 47% attack.
“you are right Mister President. I was wrong to say that. I understimated the patriotism of Americans and I gave your administration too much credit. Let me amend that statement. I do believe and recent polls agree that there are not 47%, but only 37% that will vote for you no matter what their economic reality is. Fortunately that number is not high enough for you to win another chance at another stimulus. I stand here, humbled by this truism”

Anton on October 15, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Zero can’t do anything aside from TOTUS other than say, “Uh, Um, we will, ah, um, ahh….”.

Toast. Smell victory, and GOT(r)V!

Who is John Galt on October 15, 2012 at 11:10 PM

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3tOE_BbRmcZero“>Go!

Who is John Galt on October 15, 2012 at 11:21 PM

************* Alert Part Deux ******

Justice Dept. seeks to dismiss Fast and Furious suit in new court filing – @AP

4 mins ago from http://www.cbsnews.com by editor
=============================================

October 15, 2012, 10:50 PM

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57532944/justice-dept-seeks-to-dismiss-fast-and-furious-suit/

canopfor on October 15, 2012 at 11:21 PM

PolAgnostic on October 15, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Oh I know – I can’t help but be nervous. Maybe because the future of this country is riding on this.

I’m sure Mitt will be better than he was at the first debate. I just don’t trust Candy Crowley or Obama.

gophergirl on October 15, 2012 at 11:21 PM

LOL!

Romney survived the Republican primaries to win the nomination.

PolAgnostic on October 15, 2012 at 11:16 PM

You bring up an important point. Mitt Romney got the nomination by a long vetting process. Obama has never been vetted. That showed in the first debate. I’m curious to see how it plays out in the second.

IMO If Obama fails again, there will not be a third debate. What with it concerning foreign policy at the time the rat-eared bastard ignored the smoldering corpse of his ambassador to go out to parties in Vegas.

Happy Nomad on October 15, 2012 at 11:22 PM

With all due respect to you and your brilliant opinions on HA. MN is nuts. You have had people voting for the lizard people. You elected WWF and SNL stars. I don’t know if it is the system or the cold weather but you all are insane!

Happy Nomad on October 15, 2012 at 11:17 PM

WOW that was a dash of ice cold water on my happy dance.

gophergirl on October 15, 2012 at 11:22 PM

It’ll soon be here…

txhsmom on October 15, 2012 at 11:22 PM

“Romney can say he apologized. But Obama can say an apology doesn’t change things. Romney didn’t misspeak. That was a two-minute oration that basically gave Romney’s view of America.”…

Well then. They won’t mind if Romney brings up Obama’s view of America, will they? The “clinging to their guns, religion, and antipathy to the others” or the “my grandma–acting like a typical white person.”

conservative pilgrim on October 15, 2012 at 11:23 PM

I’m sure Mitt will be better than he was at the first debate. I just don’t trust Candy Crowley or Obama.

gophergirl on October 15, 2012 at 11:21 PM

But why ever so? :0

Happy Nomad on October 15, 2012 at 11:23 PM

canopfor on October 15, 2012 at 11:21 PM

Le Crap!

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 11:23 PM

there will definitely be a question on GM bankruptcy…barry needs to be able to drive OH home to him…candy will be sure to probe Mitt’s comments in detail

whatever mitts answer is, it won’t swing any union votes to him…and it is hard to talk to the average person about re-structuring, and bondholders, and stockholders, etc.

many companies have gone thru bankruptcy and come out ok

it will be a tough question. Just because you are right, doesn’t mean that the howling jackals in the press understand what you say…or care.

so OH will be central.

r keller on October 15, 2012 at 11:24 PM

I don’t know if it is the system or the cold weather but you all are insane!

Happy Nomad on October 15, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Their weather changes every 40 minutes.

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Scrumpy!!!

Bmore on October 15, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Obama will prevail in tomorrow night’s townhall “debate.” How do I know this? Drudge says so:

Debate questions from ‘undecided voters’ must be pre-submitted; CNN host to choose…

Observe if you will the following salient points:

1. Candy Crowley is in the tank for Barack Obama
2. The Gallup organization – not exactly Rasmussen in its partisan leanings – will select the “undecided” voters from the solidly pro-Obama state of New York
3. There is a history of Democrat “plants” making their way into these types of debates
4. La Crowley will have the luxury of choosing which questions to present and which candidate to present them to.

Based on the foregoing, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that, unless he screws up horribly, Obama will walk away victorious.

ManlyRash on October 15, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Good evening all.

The polls are starting to be “honest” towards the end here so as to cling to credibility. The’ve been working hard for their guy up until this point, but I don’t see how team O has any hope left.

Jackalope on October 15, 2012 at 11:25 PM

WOW that was a dash of ice cold water on my happy dance.

gophergirl on October 15, 2012 at 11:22 PM

Like I said before – you and Ed gave us Al Franken. Hawaii is more likely to vote Rmoney than Minnesota. Which is weird – it’s fulla Scandinavians who left Scandinavia. I know. I am one.

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Resist We Much on October 15, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Ponyland sounds perfect for Obama

Gracelynn on October 15, 2012 at 11:25 PM

I got R&R election mail from a PAC today. I’m in an urban area in MN. First piece of election mail I’ve received for any race.

Apparently someone thinks it’s money well spent.

gophergirl on October 15, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Dick Morris was saying tonight Romney should start going after states like MN, WI and PA…

MGardner on October 15, 2012 at 11:25 PM

there will definitely be a question on GM bankruptcy

r keller on October 15, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Mitt: “Obama and I both wanted a GM bankruptcy. Obama took to long to take GM through a messy bankruptcy. I preferred bankruptcy that didn’t bankrupt the country also.”

faraway on October 15, 2012 at 11:26 PM

Scrumpy!!!

Bmore on October 15, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Isn’t Scrumpy an older lady?

Lanceman on October 15, 2012 at 11:26 PM

The obama experiment is not over.. even if he loses.

Time to wake up folks. Progressivism marches on. Wilson, FDR, Obama. Look at the havoc.

There is no doubt in my mind we will soon have to fight. The money is running out. There is war coming. A million ways to avoid it have filled my mind and they all fail, epic fail. Huge government won’t fight fair. They aren’t gonna give up. In my lifetime I have seen them seize huge chunks of power.

It will take behemoth reversal just to reach normal. It won’t be bloodless. It’s gone too far.

wolly4321 on October 15, 2012 at 11:28 PM

Impersonations

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 11:30 PM

canopfor on October 15, 2012 at 11:05 PM

HC and M??? Me thinks much so. At the very least, abuse of power.

Chewy the Lab on October 15, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Chewy the Lab:

It appears,and,between this and Hilrods attempted falling on
her sword,sumpin is up!:)

canopfor on October 15, 2012 at 11:30 PM

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