An Akin comeback?

posted at 11:21 am on October 15, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Nearly two months ago, Todd Akin bought time on Missouri television to ask forgiveness from voters over regrettable remarks he made about rape.  Most scoffed that electoral forgiveness would be forthcoming, and predicted doom and defeat for Republicans in a Senate race most had assumed they would win against unpopular incumbent Claire McCaskill.  As soon as it became impossible for Akin to withdraw, McCaskill began bombarding Akin with ads over his statement, and few gave Akin any hope for a comeback.

A new poll from Wenzel Strategies (via James Hohmann at Politico’s Morning Score) might show a glimmer of that hope, however.  The likely-voter survey puts Akin up four points over McCaskill, 48.9/44.7, with 87% of the vote firm.  The sample on this poll has a D/R/I of 38/37/25, more Democratic than the 2010 midterm turnout in Missouri of 34/37/28, although not as Democratic as the 2008 turnout model of 40/34/26 that nonetheless gave John McCain a narrow win in the state.

However, a couple of points should be kept in mind.  First, this is a poll conducted on behalf of a partisan client, Citizens United Political Victory Fund, and Wenzel does a lot of work for Republicans.  We’d be suspicious of PPP polls, so it’s fair to note this.  Second, the poll also shows Mitt Romney ahead of Barack Obama by almost 14 points, 54.9/41.1, while the RCP average for MO is Romney +5.2%.  The last poll in that series, though, was conducted before the first debate, and it’s entirely possible that the race in Missouri has shifted significantly since.  It’s worth noting that Obama’s favorability in the poll is 49.5/49.1, so it’s not as though this has an overwhelming tilt.

Peter Boyer at The Daily Beast says that counting out Akin at this point would be a mistake. So, too, would be counting out some high-profile Republican help for Akin in the final couple of weeks, for pragmatic purposes:

Yet less than a month before Election Day, Akin not only remains the Republican candidate to unseat Democratic incumbent Claire McCaskill, but is actually within striking distance of what could be the election season’s most stunning victory. Though badly outspent by McCaskill, Akin is close enough in the polls that Real Clear Politics counts the race a tossup. Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.)—who’d been among those urging Akin to quit—now judges that “he very well may win.”

Once the late-September deadline for replacing Akin on the ballot passed, the Republican establishment seemed to realize that, like it or not (and mostly, it did not), Akin suddenly represented the party’s best chance for winning the Senate. There have been hints that big money may start flowing from the national party to Missouri—though Akin is not counting on it (“My guess is, some will, and some won’t”).

But even if Akin does ultimately get last-minute assistance from the national GOP, he will still, should he win, owe very little to his party’s establishment. That would be a rather unusual situation for a freshman senator. And it could allow him to become a uniquely powerful proponent for the Tea Party’s agenda on Capitol Hill—not to mention a serious headache for the Senate’s GOP leadership. “What I’ve found in politics is a simple thing: pretty soon there’s gonna be a bill, and they’re gonna want someone to vote for their bill, or against some other bill,” says Akin. “And they’ll be thinking, ‘Man, we’re a vote short, what are we gonna do? You mean we’re gonna have to go talk to him?’ Well, it depends on whether or not they want to win.”

At this point, why not pitch in?  Akin’s the Republican candidate, and the race is definitely not lost.  Romney doesn’t need the help in Missouri, but defeating McCaskill would be a huge boost to Republican hopes of controlling the Senate.  Furthermore, the continued competitiveness of this race shows that the damage from the gaffe has receded.  Thanks to McCaskill’s blanketing of the state on the gaffe, it’s done all the damage it could possibly do now.  Those voters who might still change their minds won’t be changing horses based on that now.


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I hope he wins.

I also hope we remember that he’s just another idiot politician who is human like the rest of us and deserves to have as little power over our lives as possible.

beatcanvas on October 15, 2012 at 11:23 AM

I’ll take Achin’ over McCasket any day of the week, but I have a horrible feeling we’re gonna lose this sucker by a couple of points.

Doughboy on October 15, 2012 at 11:24 AM

He is going to win. Everyone saw his statements through their own lenses. What he said was stupid, and wrong, but it wasn’t a complete killer in a place like Missouri.

Rocks on October 15, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Is she still refusing to debate? I’d imagine so.

Marcus on October 15, 2012 at 11:26 AM

At this point, why not pitch in?

97% ACU rating. The reality is that these people WANT PROGRESSIVES in office, just not Democrat ones.

astonerii on October 15, 2012 at 11:27 AM

He won’t vote to keep ObamaCare like Claire will…

Missouri voters: please do your duty! Send Claire packing!!

Khun Joe on October 15, 2012 at 11:27 AM

As a North Saint Louis County resident I can tell you that the Akin signs outnumber the Claire signs. This is HUGE given the demographics of North Saint Louis County. Claire has finally started attacking Akin on his statement, but I think it’s too little too late. This state hates the Democrats from top to bottom right now.

MobileVideoEngineer on October 15, 2012 at 11:28 AM

The Republican version of Alan Grayson.

aunursa on October 15, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Another race where Cornyn skinned his knees running from his shadow.

DanMan on October 15, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Malevolence vs. Doofussness

Pretty easy choice, I suppose.

tru2tx on October 15, 2012 at 11:29 AM

Hotair then: Akins is a moron, he has to go, he has no place getting elected, he’s disgraceful, etc etc

Hotair now: Akin can win? Well then YAYYYY! More power to him! GO AKIN GO!

Dave Rywall on October 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Dave Rywall on October 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM

How’d you feel about switching Lautenberg for Torricelli when he was poison?

Marcus on October 15, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Here is the point, if akin wins Romney wins in a landslide

Conservative4ev on October 15, 2012 at 11:31 AM

McCaskill is a Witch Hag and people have had enough of her voting Against the Will of the People. A Brain Dead monkey could beat that pig’s azz.

Tbone McGraw on October 15, 2012 at 11:31 AM

I hope Akin does win. And when the time comes, he needs to be primaried and thrown out.

Jack_Burton on October 15, 2012 at 11:32 AM

At this point, why not pitch in?

Because if one dime of traceable GOP cash goes to Akin, the ads of Obama and every Dem in every one of the other 49 states will suddenly be 100% “legitimate rape” from now until the election. They’ve already tried to tar Ryan with that brush, and it’d be political malfeasance to feed them any more ammo.

Super PACs are designed to operate without accountability. Let them drag Akin’s moronic butt across the finish line.

Fabozz on October 15, 2012 at 11:32 AM

At this point, why not pitch in?

Pour encourager les autres

JohnGalt23 on October 15, 2012 at 11:33 AM

I hope Akin does win. And when the time comes, he needs to be primaried and thrown out.

Jack_Burton on October 15, 2012 at 11:32 AM

That’s my hope as well. I’d rather deal with him for the next 6 years than Claire.

Doughboy on October 15, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Hotair then: Akins is a moron, he has to go, he has no place getting elected, he’s disgraceful, etc etc

Hotair now: Akin can win? Well then YAYYYY! More power to him! GO AKIN GO!

Dave Rywall on October 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Just catering to the masses here.

Everyone here except a few then: If he gets killed, please do not look at me, cause we really do want him dead.

Everyone here except a few now: We still hate him, even if he can win, we do not want him.

Reason? Few of you posters are even remotely conservative, thus anyone with a 30ACU rating who screws up is a required victory for us, anyone with a 97ACU is satan and must be defeated.

astonerii on October 15, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Actually, Ed, he isn’t coming back because he was never down.

You really need to stop believing polls more than 10 days before the election. They are all about pushing a meme, not reporting reality.

platypus on October 15, 2012 at 11:34 AM

I called it! And, I will be celebrating his win November 6th, along with Romney’s.

txhsmom on October 15, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Considering the communists and cretins on the democrat side, Akin is a comparative Pericles. Anyway, he’ll win.

rrpjr on October 15, 2012 at 11:36 AM

The Republican version of Alan Grayson.
aunursa on October 15, 2012 at 11:28 AM

No.

jawkneemusic on October 15, 2012 at 11:36 AM

I see Newt and others are supporting Akin.
Especially like this point Newt made…

The former presidential candidate cited how the NRSC supported Charlie Crist instead of Marco Rubio in the Republican Florida Senate primary. “So let’s be clear, the Senate committee doesn’t always have good judgment,” he said
http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/14/gingrich-calls-out-rove-super-pac-nrsc-for-abandoning-akin-video/#ixzz29Nlfr6aW

Deanna on October 15, 2012 at 11:36 AM

For the millionth time, it’s a version of the Bradley effect. Watch the South Park episode “S3xual Healing” to see what I’m referring to (notice what the guys do/say when they are around women).

DethMetalCookieMonst on October 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM

The Republican version of Alan Grayson.

aunursa on October 15, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Not quite: where Akin mis-spoke but once and then fell all over himself in abject apology, Alan Grayson uttered the most offensively outrageous things and apologized for none of them.

ManlyRash on October 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Anyone who has ever studied America or American politics should know one thing about Americans. Americans love a good old fashioned Mea Culpa. In today’s climate where denial and cover-up are more the norm than outlier I have no doubt people in Missouri are looking at Akin and saying to themselves, he may be a doofus, but by god he is at least an honest doofus. Considering scandals which everybody knows at least a little about, like fast and furious and now Libya, this has to be seen as somewhat of a breath of fresh air.

Joe Biden, Paul Ryan and Bibi’s “Red Line” time line.

SWalker on October 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM

At this point, why not pitch in? Akin’s the Republican candidate, and the race is definitely not lost.

Replace Akin’s name with Romney’s and tell it to all the hand-wringers that moan and cry they don’t trust Romney and will be sitting out the election.

Mitoch55 on October 15, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Because if one dime of traceable GOP cash goes to Akin, the ads of Obama and every Dem in every one of the other 49 states will suddenly be 100% “legitimate rape” from now until the election. They’ve already tried to tar Ryan with that brush, and it’d be political malfeasance to feed them any more ammo.

Super PACs are designed to operate without accountability. Let them drag Akin’s moronic butt across the finish line.

Fabozz on October 15, 2012 at 11:32 AM

If we base our electoral tactics on what smears the Democrats will come up with, we’ve already lost. Because the Democrats will smear anything and everything. The key is not to retreat from it and “avoid giving them ammo.” The key is to overcome the smears and defeat them.

Mark my words: Akin will win this. And he should. And every Republican who cares about overturning Obamacare, balancing the budget, or any other conservative priority should be behind him.

Shump on October 15, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Because if one dime of traceable GOP cash goes to Akin, the ads of Obama and every Dem in every one of the other 49 states will suddenly be 100% “legitimate rape” from now until the election. They’ve already tried to tar Ryan with that brush, and it’d be political malfeasance to feed them any more ammo.

Super PACs are designed to operate without accountability. Let them drag Akin’s moronic butt across the finish line.

Fabozz on October 15, 2012 at 11:32 AM

This.

Washington Nearsider on October 15, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Hotair then: Akins is a moron, he has to go, he has no place getting elected, he’s disgraceful, etc etc

Hotair now: Akin can win? Well then YAYYYY! More power to him! GO AKIN GO!

Dave Rywall on October 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Dave Drywell 2008: Ehhhehhrhhhehhrhhhhhh…..droools.
Dave Drywell 2009: Ehhhehhrhhhehhrhhhhhh…..droools.
Dave Drywell 2010: Ehhhehhrhhhehhrhhhhhh…..droools.
Dave Drywell 2011: Ehhhehhrhhhehhrhhhhhh…..droools.
Dave Drywell 2012: Ehhhehhrhhhehhrhhhhhh…..droools.
Dave Drywell 2013: ??????????????????????????????????

I see a pattern here.

portlandon on October 15, 2012 at 11:39 AM

If we base our electoral tactics on what smears the Democrats will come up with, we’ve already lost. Because the Democrats will smear anything and everything. The key is not to retreat from it and “avoid giving them ammo.” The key is to overcome the smears and defeat them.

Mark my words: Akin will win this. And he should. And every Republican who cares about overturning Obamacare, balancing the budget, or any other conservative priority should be behind him.

Shump on October 15, 2012 at 11:38 AM

That is probably what the guy wants… Us to lose. Always best to get rid of the most conservative politicians and when the tables are lined up similarly on someone who is as likely to support Democrat proposals as republican ones, then the exact same people will be screaming how needed that seat is no matter how disgusting the person is.

astonerii on October 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

The GOP apparatus overreacted, and then Akin doubled-down on selfishness. And it was Scott Brown, who may very well lose to Lieawatha, who pushed the NRSC over the edge.

Solution: third party groups come in to drag Akin over the finish line.

Ramesh Ponnuru at NRO predicted this from day one.

matthew8787 on October 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Super PACs are designed to operate without accountability. Let them drag Akin’s moronic butt across the finish line.

Fabozz on October 15, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Hmmm…seems as though the so-called leader of at leasst one Super PAC isn’t too careful with what he says either.

I mean, Karl Rove’s not-very-funny statement ‘If Akin gets murdered, don’t look for me,’

Deanna on October 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Hotair then: Akins is a moron, he has to go, he has no place getting elected, he’s disgraceful, etc etc

Hotair now: Akin can win? Well then YAYYYY! More power to him! GO AKIN GO!

Dave Rywall on October 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Yes, he’s a moron and I wanted him OUT, but the thing that he has going for him is none other than Claire McCaskill. She is very much disliked in Missouri and the revelation about her husband’s businesses receiving $40 million from the Federal government have reinforced the image that a lot of people have of her. She is one of the wealthiest people in the Senate, but didn’t pay income taxes on her private plane nor will she release her tax returns. She votes on legislation that directly benefits her family’s finances.

Also, she voted for Obamacare. Do you remember Proposition C in Missouri?

The measure changed state law to bar any government entity from fining a person for failing to buy health insurance.

It passed with 71.1% of the vote.

Bear in mind that over 315,000 Democrats turned out to cast ballots in the primary that nominated Robin Carnahan, while over 577,000 Republicans hit the polls. That is about a 65/35 split — which means that a significant amount of Democrats either supported the ballot measure repudiating ObamaCare, or didn’t bother to cast a vote to defend the programme.

Claire is still the favourite, but she is far from the lock that she appeared to be in August after Akin’s asinine comment.

Resist We Much on October 15, 2012 at 11:42 AM

I hope Akin does win. And when the time comes, he needs to be primaried and thrown out.

Jack_Burton on October 15, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Here’s a totally novel thought… IF Akin wins, how about waiting to see what kind of Senator he turns out to be before throwing him under the bus? Or are you just a Christian hater?

SWalker on October 15, 2012 at 11:42 AM

I hope Akin does win. And when the time comes, he needs to be primaried and thrown out.

Jack_Burton on October 15, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Let’s assume that Akin prevails and, for the next six years of his term in office, exhibits an exemplary record as a conservative legislator with a near 100% solid rating by the American Conservative Union.

Am I to understand that, under those circumstances, you would primary this man in 2018 for a mis-statement he made in 2012?

Seriously?

ManlyRash on October 15, 2012 at 11:42 AM

The Republican version of Alan Grayson.
aunursa on October 15, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Not even close. Grayson is a sick sick man who said the most outrageous things for political notoriety and never apologized.

Doughboy on October 15, 2012 at 11:44 AM

GO AKIN!

Go away John Cornyn.

parteagirl on October 15, 2012 at 11:44 AM

I’ll never trust the guy and he’ll always give me the creepy crawlies but we have bigger fish to fry IMO.

gophergirl on October 15, 2012 at 11:46 AM

All I can say is Akin is better than MaCaskill.That being said I still don’t like him. Better him than Claire though. Good luck to him…

sandee on October 15, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Fabozz on October 15, 2012 at 11:32 AM

+1. Help Akin, but on the hush-hush.

Ted Torgerson on October 15, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Simply put: we did what we could to drive him out, it didn’t work.

Akin is a moron but he is better than today’s Democrat.
I pitched in $10 because I have to recognize reality.

He is a moron though.

GardenGnome on October 15, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Hotair then: Akins is a moron, he has to go, he has no place getting elected, he’s disgraceful, etc etc

Hotair now: Akin can win? Well then YAYYYY! More power to him! GO AKIN GO!

Dave Rywall on October 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM

I think Hotair and conservatives generally and genuinely did want him to leave the campaign. He didn’t and they are obliged to hold their noses and support him now.

I really pity the choice they have there this election.

lexhamfox on October 15, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Where’s joana at?

NotCoach on October 15, 2012 at 11:47 AM

As I said in the headline thread:

McCaskill and Akin. Missouri deserves better, although I now can understand why they pronounce the State’s name as ‘Misery’. That has become self-evident and self-fulfilling. Surely they can find someone to run next time around who is not of the Doucheouise class, no?

ajacksonian on October 15, 2012 at 7:55 AM

Really, how do these candidates wind up on the ballot?

ajacksonian on October 15, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Seriously?

ManlyRash on October 15, 2012 at 11:42 AM

My point exactly. Every candidate says stupid things from time to time, that doesn’t make them outright evil (Well unless they are a practicing Christian and then they are more dangerous than Al Qaeda) Deciding to primary a candidate who wins before they have even had a chance to do anything sound a whole damned lot to me like letting the Democrat decide what our strategy should be and who our candidate should be. Only an imbecile or a fool allows their opponent to make those decisions for them.

SWalker on October 15, 2012 at 11:50 AM

And it could allow him to become a uniquely powerful proponent for the Tea Party’s agenda on Capitol Hill—not to mention a serious headache for the Senate’s GOP leadership.

..and this is a bad thing?

Pay-back’s a be-yotch!

The War Planner on October 15, 2012 at 11:51 AM

From day one I suggested it was stupid for the GOP to burn their bridges with him. He’s a reliable conservative vote and still less of an idiot than 90% of the Dems in office.

swinia sutki on October 15, 2012 at 11:52 AM

I would be honestly willing to throw the race to Dems if it meant the end of the Bible-thumping troglocon wing of the GOP personified by Pastor Phuckabee. Unfortunately, it will not. Worse even, it might result in loss of Senate control, and perpetuation of OgabeCare. For just this election, I’m willing to compromise my position on religion.

Archivarix on October 15, 2012 at 11:52 AM

But…
a legitimate comeback?

verbaluce on October 15, 2012 at 11:52 AM

This rings true.Just today Rasmussen has the Fla. sen race Nelson 46% Mack 45% .2 weeks ago Nelson was up by 11%.

logman1 on October 15, 2012 at 11:52 AM

There’s no need for the RNC to run any pro-Akin adds. All they need to do are run anti-McCaskill adds. The ones linking her to Obama were effective.

logis on October 15, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Claire is still the favourite, but she is far from the lock that she appeared to be in August after Akin’s asinine comment.

Resist We Much on October 15, 2012 at 11:42 AM

..tangential question: do you live in or in a state that borders on Missouri?

The War Planner on October 15, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Conservatives get your surf boards wax and ready.I feel a big wave coming.

logman1 on October 15, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Since both he and Claire make me want to projectile spew- I’ll take the one that will at least vote to terminate OB Care and turn the senate.
jmo. Good luck MO.

bazil9 on October 15, 2012 at 11:57 AM

How’d you feel about switching Lautenberg for Torricelli when he was poison?

Marcus on October 15, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Why does anyone even care what a lefty Canuck has to think about anything?

Rio Linda Refugee on October 15, 2012 at 11:58 AM

gop leadership…….pathetic and cowardly.

Cornyn and the repub senate campgn comm also picked Charlie Christ in Florida against Rubio.

Akin 2012.,,,,, better than the alternative.

PappyD61 on October 15, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Or maybe people are so sick of what the Democrats have been jamming down our throats that they’re willing to vote against them even if it means supporting this jerk.

Browncoatone on October 15, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Two other Senate races worth looking at…
Josh Mandel against that idiot Sherrod Brown in Ohio. They have a debate today.
And Tom Smith against Bob Casey Jr. in PA.

Both the Repubs have an out side chance and could use any help we can give.
http://jobs.joshmandel.com/about-josh
http://tomsmithforsenate.com/

Deanna on October 15, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Or maybe people are so sick of what the Democrats have been jamming down our throats that they’re willing to vote against them even if it means supporting this jerk.

Browncoatone on October 15, 2012 at 11:59 AM

While this is true, this state doesn’t see him as a jerk. Akin is one of the most respected polititians in Missouri.

MobileVideoEngineer on October 15, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Here’s a totally novel thought… IF Akin wins, how about waiting to see what kind of Senator he turns out to be before throwing him under the bus? Or are you just a Christian hater?

SWalker on October 15, 2012 at 11:42 AM

I had almost same thing typed up… Glad I read through the comments :-)

Another thing I hate about the chattering classes and power players within the GOP ranks… They are too quick to throw people under the bus… Let the man fight what he signed up for.

I hope he wins… That would be a nice kick in Rove’s rear.

antisocial on October 15, 2012 at 12:02 PM

The GOP apparatus overreacted, and then Akin doubled-down on selfishness.

matthew8787 on October 15, 2012 at 11:41 AM

I was one who thought his statement was monumentally stupid and thought he should bow out. It was not about him and in ordinary times I think most would have felt that the statement did not mean he should recuse himself and allow someone else to run.

But, these are not ordinary times, this election is crucial to our country.

He stayed in, he seems to be competitive and he has shown real grit in the face of an onslaught from both sides.

God bless him, I prayed he would win before even though I thought he should leave the race, I am really praying for him now.

Jvette on October 15, 2012 at 12:02 PM

While this is true, this state doesn’t see him as a jerk. Akin is one of the most respected polititcians in Missouri.

MobileVideoEngineer on October 15, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Sorry for the typo…

MobileVideoEngineer on October 15, 2012 at 12:04 PM

I’m always hopeful the GOP wins a race, and Claire McCaskill is as scummy as they come so that’s good too. But Rapin’ Akin is a career politico too, and a stupid moron of the worst sort. If it comes down to him or an evil Democrat, well I choose him, but I don’t have to like it.

MTF on October 15, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Hmmm…seems as though the so-called leader of at leasst one Super PAC isn’t too careful with what he says either.

And if Karl Rove ran for office with formal party support, he’d damage GOP candidates in other races too. As a notional outsider, however, he and his super PAC has no accountability and can say and do outrageous things without damaging the formal campaigns. That’s what super PACs are for.

Besides, isn’t an Akin win untainted by filthy RINO money the best possible result for all you disestablishmentarians? The GOP gets the seat, and Akin, owing nothing to the shadowy country-club puppetmasters, gets to speak truth to power for the next six years. Win-win. Why would you want him to sell out now when victory is so close to hand?

Fabozz on October 15, 2012 at 12:06 PM

I see in the headlines that the Hollywood crowd has an ad saying Republicans want to redefine rape.

That means Akin really is competitive in this race.

Let’s hope the show me state still shows McCaskill the door.

Jvette on October 15, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Here’s what was said in that interview:

Charles Jaco: “If abortion can be considered in the case of a duct-tubal pregnancy or something like that, what about the case of rape, should it be legal or not?”

Todd Akin: “Well you know, people always wanta try and make that one of those things, well, how do ya, how do ya, how do you slice this particularly tough sort of ethical question. It seems to me first of all from what I understand from doctors that’s really rare, if it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let’s assume that may that didn’t work or something. I think there should be some punishment but the punishment ought to be in the rapist and not attacking the child.”

I had never heard the medical opinion that in the aftermath of forcible rape a woman’s body might react in a way that would make conception more difficult. So, to me, Akin’s claim that, “the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down” struck me as a very ignorant thing to say.

But it was very illuminating for me to learn from a retired Registered Nurse with 30 years of labor and delivery experience, that this claim was at one time accepted as truth by the OB community.

I think Akin’s heart is in the right place, but he got himself in trouble by:

1) Using the word “legitimate” in place of the word “forcible”. I think he was trying to differentiate between statutory rape and forcible rape. But some people took “legitimate” the wrong way and thought he was trying to “legitimize” rape. That was not his point at all. He wasn’t saying that some rape is “legitimate”. He meant “forcible”.

2) Suggesting that “the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down”. Many people had never heard that claim before, and even those (like my retired RN friend) who had heard it before have since learned that it’s not 100% true. Even if the female body can react in ways that reduce conception after a forcible rape, it does not prevent it 100% of the time. There absolutely are children conceived as a result of forcible rapes. Akin has since admitted that he has learned he was incorrect on this point.

3) In the blow-up following his statements, Akin make the mistake of thinking that all of the criticism coming at him was from the left. And when he realized that even people like Mitt Romney were wanting him to drop out, Akin had less than positive things to say about the top of our ticket (a huge political mistake).

If I had been in Akin’s shoes, and said what he said based on incorrect information received from the medical community in the past, here’s how I would have responded when things blew up…

In that interview, I made two mistakes. When I used the phrase “legitimate rape”, I meant “forcible rape”, and I did not intend in any way to legitimize rape. Rape is never legitimate. The reason I used that word is that advocates of abortion, most notably in the Supreme Court case of Roe v. Wade, illegitimately inflated the numbers of conceptions due to forcible rape, in their attempts to influence the court.

My second mistake was that I repeated an outdated medical belief that in cases of forcible rape, the female body has ways to try to “shut down”, i.e. prevent, conception. I am not a doctor, and my statement was based on what doctors had told me years ago. I have since learned that that is not the prevailing belief of the medical community today, and I acknowledge that children ARE sometimes conceived as the result of a forcible rape. In the interview, I explained that even when you assume that a child was conceived as the result of rape, I think there should be some punishment but the punishment ought to be for the rapist and not the child.

I stand by that statement in the interview. I think there should be some punishment in cases of forcible rape, but the punishment ought to be upon the rapist and not the child. In this country, we do not sentence a child to death for the crime of their father. If that is true outside the womb, it should also be true inside the womb.

A conceived child, regardless of gestational age, has its own DNA, unique from that of its mother. It is residing within its mother’s body, but it is not a part of her body. Every cell in her body has her unique DNA, and every cell in that baby’s body has its own separate DNA, unique from that of its mother. People are failing to recognize that scientific truth when they say, “My body, my choice.” That baby has its own body, which is only temporarily residing inside its mother’s body. It’s not “her body”; it’s the baby’s body. And I believe that a human being does not have a “right” to end the life of another, 100% innocent, human being.

I understand that forcible rapes occur, and that some pregnancies occur as a result of those rapes. The biological father should be tried in a court of law, and if found guilty by his own admission or by the judgment of a jury of his peers, punished to the full extent of the law.

But I do not believe that a 100% innocent baby should receive the death penalty for the father’s crime.

There are millions of people in this country who want to adopt, but are forced to adopt from other countries because of a lack of children to adopt here in the USA.

I think that women who find themselves in an unplanned pregnancy would find that carrying a child to term, and giving it up for adoption, would be a blessing to their child, to the adoptive parents, and to themselves. I think that they would find that adoption is a much better alternative to abortion, and that women today are not fully informed of the common physical and psychological consequences of abortion. Women who are currently considering abortion may want to read some of the personal testimonies at:
http://SilentNoMoreAwareness.org/

ITguy on October 15, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Hotair then: Akins is a moron, he has to go, he has no place getting elected, he’s disgraceful, etc etc

Hotair now: Akin can win? Well then YAYYYY! More power to him! GO AKIN GO!

Dave Rywall on October 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM

It’s not that hard to figure out. Akin, the selfish buffoon, is the lesser evil.

Akin, if elected, will hurt the pro-life cause on a national scale, but McCaskill will help Obama bury the entire nation.

Don’t like it, but Akin is the less toxic of the two. It’s not hard to understand.

shinty on October 15, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Go Akin!! Time for the “Architect” Karl Rove(builds up RINOs,demolishes conservatives), to receive a swift kick in the posterior.

wraithby on October 15, 2012 at 12:12 PM

McCaskill is a Witch Hag and people have had enough of her voting Against the Will of the People. A Brain Dead monkey could beat that pig’s azz.

Tbone McGraw on October 15, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Well, that pretty much describes the choice, doesn’t it? But, I’m definitely voting for the brain dead monkey.

2ndMAW68 on October 15, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Claire will regret she only got her hands on $40 million worth of pork for her hubby -before she is voted out…..

so much tax money, so little time.

FlaMurph on October 15, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Hot Air’s management has taken the moderate republican pragmatic attitude towards Todd Akin, in other words, they have allowed the Democrat Party to dictate to them who is and is not an acceptable candidate for the people of Missouri. Only an imbecile or a fool allows their opponent to make their strategic or tactical decision for them.

Many otherwise fine folks here at Hot air followed Ed’s lead and threw Todd Akin under the bus. Now that it looks like Todd not only didn’t go under the bus, but might end up driving it, there is mucho hand wringing.

Here in California 21 percent of the registered voters are registered as Independents, the vast majority of those registered Independents are either former Republican like myself who are totally fed up with California’s worthless corrupt moderate pragmatic Republican Party or they are Libertarians.

What those of you throwing Todd Akin under the bus are doing is destroying the Republican Party (which since I have become convinced is irredeemably corrupt, suits me just fine) What troubles me is what will replace the Republican Party when you finish it off.

In the meantime, welcome to California because this is the Republican Party you are building.

SWalker on October 15, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Marcus on October 15, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Mr. Rywall could care less about any of it, he just likes to look down his nose from Canada. You have to care about his opinion for it to matter.

Cindy Munford on October 15, 2012 at 12:15 PM

I would be honestly willing to throw the race to Dems if it meant the end of the Bible-thumping troglocon wing of the GOP personified by Pastor Phuckabee. Unfortunately, it will not. Worse even, it might result in loss of Senate control, and perpetuation of OgabeCare. For just this election, I’m willing to compromise my position on religion.

Archivarix on October 15, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Well, sweetcheeks, bless your little heart. But don’t expect us to compromise our position on rainbow boyz. You’ll just have to put up with it. And if you don’t compromise your position, well it’s not like we care.

Call ManlyRash, he likes your type.

platypus on October 15, 2012 at 12:15 PM

If Gov. Romney and the RNC help Akin out, it will have to be a third party transaction. They made too much noise about his error. Especially the RNC.

Cindy Munford on October 15, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Memo to Show-Me-Staters: Don’t forget–it’s a secret ballot. If it helps, vote with a brown-paper bag over your head.

Just vote the guy in, and vote that nitwit Claire out. He’ll likely last only one term. Replace him later.

BuckeyeSam on October 15, 2012 at 12:21 PM

McCaskill is so hated in every rural area of Missouri that I’m hoping that it will overcome the mostly stupid libs in St Louis and other cities. Even after his “gaff” Akin was up 10% in the rural areas.

I do remember 2008, where we BARELY went for McCain in a very democrat year. This year, it won’t even be close even though they are considering this a toss-up state. Not even close.

Ronaldusmax on October 15, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Really, how do these candidates wind up on the ballot?

ajacksonian on October 15, 2012 at 11:48 AM

That really is the question here, isn’t it? We deserve so much better, but this is the kind of crap we get over and over. Half of Congress is a freak show. You wouldn’t buy a used car from them. You certainly wouldn’t have them in your home or let them babysit your children.

But, we settle. We tell ourselves that they are at least better than the other guy. We can hold our noses and vote for them because they believe in the things we believe it. Really?

We should be represented by the best among us. They should prove themselves in real life before they do. They should serve for a limited time and then go back to their real lives.

Because we do not demand these things, we have the government we have. We deserve the government we have because we do not demand these things.

trigon on October 15, 2012 at 12:24 PM

..tangential question: do you live in or in a state that borders on Missouri?

The War Planner on October 15, 2012 at 11:55 AM

No, but I have friends that do and read blogs written by people from MO. Also, the polls are pretty indicative that Akin is not dead, as he appeared to be in August. You’ll recall that he was in the 30s after the comment. I don’t even think the McCaskill campaign believes that she will win by 10+ points, which was what the polls were indicating 6 weeks ago.

Resist We Much on October 15, 2012 at 12:24 PM

If Gov. Romney and the RNC help Akin out, it will have to be a third party transaction. They made too much noise about his error. Especially the RNC.

Cindy Munford on October 15, 2012 at 12:16 PM

The RNC betrayed the rank and file in Missouri by allowing the Democrat’s to decide who could run for a Senate seat in Missouri. That exact behavior is why so many Californian’s have abandoned the Republican Party in California.

It is a form of self seeking corruption when you ignore the wishes of the rank and file members of your party to play pragmatic games in order for select individuals to retain power.

SWalker on October 15, 2012 at 12:24 PM

If I had been in Akin’s shoes, and said what he said based on incorrect information received from the medical community in the past, here’s how I would have responded when things blew up…

“I’m just a politician. I can barely find my own fanny. I know jack squat about biology. Take my word on anything – especially my medical musings – at your own risk.”

“But here’s the deal – McCaskill and Obama are destroying our children’s economic future and security. We’ve got to get them out of office to give future Americans a fighting chance.”

“I’m going to butt out of American citizens’ medical business. And the government needs to do the same.”

Boom, Akin wins in a landslide with full GOP support…

shinty on October 15, 2012 at 12:25 PM

We deserve the government we have because we do not demand these things.

trigon on October 15, 2012 at 12:24 PM

We get the government we have because our media is an extension of the DNC…

shinty on October 15, 2012 at 12:28 PM

McCaskill is so hated in every rural area of Missouri that I’m hoping that it will overcome the mostly stupid libs in St Louis and other cities. Even after his “gaff” Akin was up 10% in the rural areas.

I do remember 2008, where we BARELY went for McCain in a very democrat year. This year, it won’t even be close even though they are considering this a toss-up state. Not even close.

Ronaldusmax on October 15, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Hey, as I stated earlier, I’m in North Saint Louis County which is a very diverse area of the county and the Akin signs outnumber the Claire signs. I don’t think the Senate race is even going to be that close let alone the Presidential race.

MobileVideoEngineer on October 15, 2012 at 12:28 PM

trigon on October 15, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Well said.
Freak Show indeed.

bazil9 on October 15, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Boom, Akin wins in a landslide with full GOP support…

shinty on October 15, 2012 at 12:25 PM

No, Akin is on record as a conservative Christian, he never get’s the GOP’s support, the best he could ever hope for is that they don’t try to destroy him, and that ship has already sailed. Todd Akin is headed right straight into the TEA Party camp and will mostly likely be nothing but a thorn in the moderate pragmatic GOP’s side.

SWalker on October 15, 2012 at 12:30 PM

“the great failing of American conservatives is they do not retrieve their wounded.” Whittaker Chambers

kingsmill on October 15, 2012 at 12:30 PM

McCaskill MUST go.

79% of the Missouri voters were against the travesty which is Obama’care’. She voted for it, put it over the top.

Her double dipping, charging for her private Gulfstream plane, while also charging taxpayers for commercial flights, concurrently, makes her a harlot extraordianaire. Ask what else she was cheating you with.

Out, out, out, at all cost.

She must be the Blanche Lincoln of 2012.

Schadenfreude on October 15, 2012 at 12:30 PM

The Republican version of Alan Grayson.

aunursa on October 15, 2012 at 11:28 AM

I was thinking more like Al Franken …

But Al has never apologized either … good point ….

I thought what Akin said was stupid and wanted him to bow out
he didn’t …. let him run his race ….. and good luck to him …

conservative tarheel on October 15, 2012 at 12:33 PM

I would be honestly willing to throw the race to Dems if it meant the end of the Bible-thumping troglocon wing of the GOP personified by Pastor Phuckabee. Unfortunately, it will not. Worse even, it might result in loss of Senate control, and perpetuation of OgabeCare. For just this election, I’m willing to compromise my position on religion.

Archivarix on October 15, 2012 at 11:52 AM

If the nation weren’t close to death-by-Democrats, I wouldn’t be at all angry with you for thinking that. We average Christians have little if anything in common with the buffoonish blowhards in DC for whom religion is either a joke or a convenient voter draw.

But thank you for being able to put aside your differences because the situation really does demand it. I’d like Akin to be achin’ because his retarded fanny got kicked in the election…but not at the price of letting the Demoncrats run riot for another four years.

“I’m just a politician. I can barely find my own fanny. I know jack squat about biology. Take my word on anything – especially my medical musings – at your own risk.”

“But here’s the deal – McCaskill and Obama are destroying our children’s economic future and security. We’ve got to get them out of office to give future Americans a fighting chance.”

“I’m going to butt out of American citizens’ medical business. And the government needs to do the same.”

Boom, Akin wins in a landslide with full GOP support…

shinty on October 15, 2012 at 12:25 PM

+1. Nice summary.

MelonCollie on October 15, 2012 at 12:35 PM

SWalker on October 15, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Yep, they tried it in Florida also. If it were up to them we would have the Umpa Lumpa instead of Sen. Rubio.

Cindy Munford on October 15, 2012 at 12:36 PM

“the great failing of American conservatives is they do not retrieve their wounded.” Whittaker Chambers

kingsmill on October 15, 2012 at 12:30 PM

That’s because our ‘wounded’ often have self-inflicted injuries.

To put a military spin on it, don’t expect your squadmates to have a lot of sympathy if you cowboy with your rifle until you blow your foot off. If you don’t know better by this point…

MelonCollie on October 15, 2012 at 12:37 PM

If your choices are crazy and crazy crook, who are you going to pick?

Cindy Munford on October 15, 2012 at 12:37 PM

Another race where Cornyn skinned his knees running from his shadow.
DanMan on October 15, 2012 at 11:28 AM

RNC called Sat. soliciting donations to “help RNC get these candidates over the finish line and take back the Senate.” I told them I didn’t have anything to give because it all went to Todd Akin and I asked that the caller relay the message that Mo. was a seat they could win if they would get behind Akin. I’m in Tx. but my $$ works in Mo. and Ohio.

jffree1 on October 15, 2012 at 12:39 PM

From WaPo:

MoveOn.org Political Action is out with a new ad featuring celebrities Scarlett Johansson, Eva Longoria and Kerry Washington encouraging women to vote for President Obama.

In the ad, the actresses say that Mitt Romney is for ending Planned Parenthood funding and overturning Roe v. Wade. “We have Republicans trying to redefine rape,” Johansson says. “Trying to force women to undergo invasive ultrasounds,” Longoria adds.

This means alot to me, coming from women that rely primarily on their cleavage and sexuality–since the overurn of RoevWade would turn the legislation over to the States.

On the other side of the coin, I suppose it does counter the “liberal women are ugly” evidence.

socalcon on October 15, 2012 at 12:40 PM

“We have Republicans trying to redefine rape.”

Who knew that Whoopi Goldberg was a Republican?

Resist We Much on October 15, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Resist We Much on October 15, 2012 at 12:43 PM

I need more coffee, I just got that.

Cindy Munford on October 15, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Recall also when Akin’s words hit the airwaves it rekindled Sandra Fluke and allowed a gal named Shauna Prewitt to advance her claims about her fight to block parental rights of her “rapist”. What was weird was the piling on by the GOP. Those that did need to be scrutinized closely.

DanMan on October 15, 2012 at 12:48 PM

I’ll never trust the guy and he’ll always give me the creepy crawlies but we have bigger fish to fry IMO.

gophergirl on October 15, 2012 at 11:46 AM

All I can say is Akin is better than MaCaskill.That being said I still don’t like him. Better him than Claire though. Good luck to him…

sandee on October 15, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Fabozz on October 15, 2012 at 11:32 AM

+1. Help Akin, but on the hush-hush.

Ted Torgerson on October 15, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Simply put: we did what we could to drive him out, it didn’t work.

Akin is a moron but he is better than today’s Democrat.
I pitched in $10 because I have to recognize reality.

He is a moron though.

GardenGnome on October 15, 2012 at 11:47 AM

I don’t get all the angst. He’s a politician, and a solid conservative. If he goes to Washington and does a good job, that’s all we need.

Some of you act like everything a Republican says reflects on you personally.

tom on October 15, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Fabozz on October 15, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Rove means nothing any more. He runs that PAC based on his supposedly previous great experience. So far he has done very little personally to help. The PAC can and should give money and run ads. The leader should learn to keep his mouth shut and work for re-relections of candidates and nothing else. If you think his talking about Akin being murdered is acceptable, I don’t.

Deanna on October 15, 2012 at 12:55 PM

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