Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

posted at 8:01 am on October 14, 2012 by Allahpundit

Not much to see this morning beyond the usual Axelrod/Gibbs/Gillespie battle o’ the talking points, alas, but Darrell Issa’s preview on “Meet the Press” of the next round of Benghazi hearings could bring genuine news. “This Week” might be fun too, as Rob Portman, Newt Gingrich, and Joe Biden’s son Beau discuss weigh in on whether or not Biden was in fact a complete jackhole at the debate Thursday night. (Spoiler: He was.)

In honor of Ax’s appearance, a little something from his Twitter feed posted early — too early — on Friday night:

Sorry, Nats fans. If it’s any consolation, I root for the Mets and Pirates. And I can tell you from experience: As much as that brutal collapse might hurt right now, in the course of time it’ll … still really hurt. That’s baseball. This is your life now. Good luck coping. The line-up via WaPo:

NBC’s Meet the Press: Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC); Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA); Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD); Gov. Bob McDonnell (R-VA); Mayor Kasim Reed (D-Atlanta); former governorn Jennifer Granholm (D-MI); Alex Castellanos, GOP strategist; Tom Brokaw, NBC; Stephen Colbert

CBS’ Face the Nation: Romney campaign advisor Bay Buchanan; Katrina vanden Heuvel, The Nation; Frank Luntz, Republican pollster; David Corn, Mother Jones; John Dickerson, CBS and Slate

ABC’s This Week: Sen. Rob Portman (R-OH); Delaware Attorney General Beau Biden; Newt Gingrich; former Senator and 2008 Democratic presidential candidate Chris Dodd; Martha Raddatz, ABC; Richard Norton Smith, presidential historian; George Will, ABC; Donna Brazile, Democratic strategist

Fox News Sunday: David Axelrod, Obama campaign senior strategist; Ed Gillespie, Romney campaign senior adviser; Brit Hume, Fox News; Bob Woodward, Washington Post; Laura Ingraham, radio show host; Jeff Zeleny, New York Times

CNN’s State of the Union with Candy Crowley: Senior Obama campaign adviser Robert Gibbs; DNC Chairwoman Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL); Al Cardenas, former chairman of the Florida Republican Party; Jim Acosta, CNN; Susan Page, USA Today; Grover Norquist, Americans for Tax Reform; Bill Burton, Priorities USA


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With Romney picking up another point in Ras today — on weekend polling — he’s on his way to 50 sometime this week. Then let the gnashing and screaming begin.

Rational Thought on October 14, 2012 at 10:20 AM

What gives here?

This Reuters/Ipsos poll article about Obama beating Romney in early voting by 59-31!?

By Andy Sullivan
WASHINGTON | Sun Oct 14, 2012

[Andy Sullivan? Is this the same Andrew Sullivan?]

Skipping the first part, if you read down:

The Romney campaign says it is leading or even with Obama among early voters in several closely fought battleground states, including Florida, North Carolina, Colorado, Nevada and New Hampshire. The campaign says it has seen a spike in volunteering and voter enthusiasm among Republicans since Romney’s strong debate performance against Obama on October 3.

“Not only are we keeping pace with the vaunted Obama machine, but we believe our ground game will put us over the finish line on Election Day,” said Rich Beeson, the Romney campaign’s political director.

George Mason University professor Michael McDonald, an expert on early voting, said it was difficult to tell how the results so far could affect the outcome of the race.

In North Carolina and Maine, Democrats seem to be voting in higher numbers than 2008, while Republicans seem to be voting in slightly lower numbers than four years ago, he said.

In Ohio, where voters do not register by party, early voting appears to be higher than normal in both Republican and Democratic areas, McDonald said.

In Iowa, about twice as many registered Democrats as Republicans have voted by now – a potential warning sign for the Romney campaign, he said.

“Romney needs a change here. The good news for Romney is day to day, incrementally, the numbers shift in his direction, so he may be able to catch up,” McDonald said.

The accuracy of Reuters/Ipsos online polls is measured using a credibility interval. For the 6,704 people who were asked whether they had voted yet, the credibility interval was 1.3 points. For the 361 people who replied that they had already cast their ballots, the credibility interval was 10 points.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/14/us-usa-campaign-poll-idUSBRE8991FR20121014

mountainaires on October 14, 2012 at 10:26 AM

For the 361 people who replied that they had already cast their ballots, the credibility interval was 10 points.

That would be the lack of credibility interval.

Rational Thought on October 14, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Trying to remember which of the transcendent talking heads saw the 180° election turnaround from the debate coming. Eh, none of em. Benghasi? Nope. Nats? Heh, right.

Watch blowhard airheads clueless pontifications… orrrrr go smack a bucket of balls at the range?

Adios mi compadres. My short game needs work.

swede7 on October 14, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Mitt needs to be ready for some annoying town hall audience members.

I bet you the moderator is going to ask some questioners, “Did Governor Romney answer the question to your satisfaction?”

To which the idiot questioner will say, “Well, not really. I was hoping for more specifics” or “I wasn’t satisfied with the answer.”

Then Mitt might give an even more detailed answer, and the moronic questioner will still insist, “I still don’t feel satisfied. I just, I just, I don’t know. Like, yeah.”

Then some analysts will try to make the story afterwards: “Romney struggles to answer question, blah, blah, blah.” It’s the usual baloney.

Yes, we’ve all seen these idiot questioners in action.

In the past they’ve used town hall questioners who seemed like they had anti-Republican agendas.

Mitt needs to be prepared for this and make sure he stays in control and frames his answers on his own terms.

Also, Mitt needs to be prepared for some question like, “how does the bad economy affect you personally?” I have a feeling there will be some Mickey Mouse, silly questions this time.

Finally, he needs to listen to everything Obama says in his answers. One thing I noticed during the VP debate was that Ryan seemed to be thinking about what he was going to say next at the expense of his being able to take note of all the charges being leveled by the clown Biden, leading to several of Biden’s accusations going unchallenged and uncorrected.

MITT NEEDS TO RESPOND TO EVERY CHANGE OBAMA MAKES, AND THEN HIT OBAMA HARDER, while coming off relaxed, dignified and presidential.

I can’t stress this enough… Mitt should not let a single attack from Obama go by unanswered. While countering Obama’s attacks, he needs to be sure to avoid coming off as defensive. Mitt needs to STAY ON THE ATTACK AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, while still appearing upbeat and presidential.

Mitt was nearly pitch perfect in the first debate, and I have confidence that he will be up to the challenge this time, as well.

How sweet it would be to have another knockout. Romney needs to be just as strong, and if possible stronger, this time around. Keep Obama on his heels!

Romney needs to be at east, while still full of energy and appearing STRONG AND CONFIDENT.

Mitt, we are being you 100%! Let’s get this won!

bluegill on October 14, 2012 at 10:29 AM

We are behind you 100%, Mitt!!

Sorry, I can’t type this morning!!

bluegill on October 14, 2012 at 10:38 AM

0 has to get his voters out early before another blow up in a debate. Then obamaphonegal wouldn’t care cause she probably doesn’t watch the debates and so will vote for 0 no matter what he does.
Just think she cancels out our vote!

Bambi on October 14, 2012 at 10:39 AM

So what does the RCP look like?

:)

CW on October 14, 2012 at 10:39 AM

The accuracy of Reuters/Ipsos online polls is measured using a credibility interval. For the 6,704 people who were asked whether they had voted yet, the credibility interval was 1.3 points. For the 361 people who replied that they had already cast their ballots, the credibility interval was 10 points.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/14/us-usa-campaign-poll-idUSBRE8991FR20121014

mountainaires on October 14, 2012 at 10:26 AM

This is an online “poll”, which means it is worthless. Online “polls” do not capture a random sample of the population-to the contrary they are willingly participated in by volunteers, so can’t be relied upon as any sort of accurate barometer of public opinion.

Besides, real “polls” use a Margin of Error, not a “credibility interval”, which is a phrase right out of Leftist Central Casting!

Del Dolemonte on October 14, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Uh-oh. Reuters didn’t get the Zero campaign memo: Romney closing gap in Ohio as poll numbers, crowds rise

And a great quote from Romney’s Ohio campaign director:

Enthusiasm isn’t flowing our way just because Obama had a bad 90 minutes … it’s flowing because Obama has had a bad four years.”

Rational Thought on October 14, 2012 at 10:41 AM

Mohammed Kasim Reed, known as Kasim Reed (born June 10, 1969) is the 59th Mayor of Atlanta

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Don’t try national politics, Reed. You’re way too into identity politics with a race-baiting theme. That’s such an old ploy that even old-timey black politicians have given it up. The Muslim association doesn’t work too well either.

ExpressoBold on October 14, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Atomic Bomb

CW on October 14, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Sorry, Nats fans. If it’s any consolation, I root for the Mets and Pirates. And I can tell you from experience: As much as that brutal collapse might hurt right now, in the course of time it’ll … still really hurt. That’s baseball.

Nats fans now have an inkling of what us Red Sox fans went thru in game 6 of the 1986 World Series…

Paul Mirengoff at Power Line, on the Nats heartbreak.

Del Dolemonte on October 14, 2012 at 10:50 AM

If Zero is up 5 in Ohio…how come he’s sending Billy Jeff and Springsteen into…Cleveland!…next week? Doesn’t a guy that far ahead have the dem areas locked down?

ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

Watch what they do, not what their pollsters say.

Rational Thought on October 14, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Uh-oh. Reuters didn’t get the Zero campaign memo: Romney closing gap in Ohio as poll numbers, crowds rise
And a great quote from Romney’s Ohio campaign director:

Enthusiasm isn’t flowing our way just because Obama had a bad 90 minutes … it’s flowing because Obama has had a bad four years.”
Rational Thought on October 14, 2012 at 10:41 AM

We need to do two things to win Ohio…

-do MUCH better in early voting than McCain did
-get ALL out people out on election day

So help me, we will win Ohio.

Obama will do worse in Ohio than he did in 2008. The suburbs will help power Romney’s win.

bluegill on October 14, 2012 at 10:54 AM

To paraphrase a Tom Clancy character in ‘Red Storm Rising’:

“We learn. They learn. We win”.

Obama’s supposed ‘lock’ on Ohio and other states are coming undone.
And Springsteen, Will i am and Hollywood cannot fix it.

Wasn’t it two or three weeks ago, before the Presidential debate that Dems and their lackey talking heads were saying it’s all over but the screaming?

Still expect Obama to lose, badly. If not in a massive landslide, then by numbers so brutal even Voter Fraud won’t fix it.

Jack Deth on October 14, 2012 at 11:02 AM

Gennifer Granholm on MTP with DNC Dave:
1. Zero will hunt down the guys who killed our ambassador if it take 72 years.(and it will)
2. Everyone is confused Stevens never asked for more security for Benghazi only for Tripoli.(wow so glad you straightened that one out,that’s why they took away what security he had and we should mention that every embassy in the mid- east was desperately trying to get more security)
3. Those wascally Wepublicans cut the budget we had no money( pubbies have to be really clairvoyant to cut a budget three and a half years ahead of when it was made,what sleuths)
4. The whole situation is “evolving”….(and not in their favor,just ignore everything until Nov. 8)

rodguy911 on October 14, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Yesterday I read that the vote I presume she is referring to went 411-5 to cut funding, with the 5 “no” votes coming from Republicans, meaning that nearly every Democrat supported the cuts. I know that Elijah “The Impressively Ignorant” Cummings sure did! If this is the case, why aren’t Democrat liars like Granholm get excoriated by the GOP over it? (that was a semi-rhetorical question)

Anti-Control on October 14, 2012 at 11:08 AM

Obama’s supposed ‘lock’ on Ohio and other states are coming undone.
And Springsteen, Will i am and Hollywood cannot fix it.

I think they shot that wad along time ago and many Americans are not buying it this time.

CW on October 14, 2012 at 11:09 AM

i wish gov mcdonnel was alittle more aggressive on MTP….

cmsinaz on October 14, 2012 at 11:12 AM

axlerod the weasel…man i don’t like him….

cmsinaz on October 14, 2012 at 11:13 AM

So I guess Amb. Rice was busy today?

Cindy Munford on October 14, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Mornin’, folks. Watching F&F. Can’t take the lies this early on a Sunday morning. November 6th will be a time for discernment.

kingsjester on October 14, 2012 at 9:17 AM

Needs to be pointed out loudly and often. With all the political chatter coming from our side alone, it’s easy to get off track and think our hope lies in the politicians and the political process itself, isn’t it?

Cleombrotus on October 14, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Ugh- I’m with family this weekend and I have to “not be political” because my lib sister will become unhinged. Better be on eggshells this weekend and not talk about any pesky facts.

Jackalope on October 14, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Ugh- I’m with family this weekend and I have to “not be political” because my lib sister will become unhinged. Better be on eggshells this weekend and not talk about any pesky facts.

Jackalope on October 14, 2012 at 11:32 AM

You may need to rethink this and weigh the entertainment factor in… Just how unhinged will she get and is it amusing to watch?

Fallon on October 14, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Think about who Obama is recruiting to help him stop the voter hemorrhage. Bruce Springsteen and Slick Willie! They are going to make you more likely to vote for Obama? Why? One is an old, rich, liberal musician and one is an old, rich, liberal, lying politician. Which one would sway your vote for the other lying politician? I don’t get it.

inspectorudy on October 14, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Can somebody tell me more about this townhall format? Are they actually even supposed to address each other at all,like in the last debate, or just answer questions from the audience. And how do they make sure that the audience is not stacked with dem operatives, for instance, or that the questions haven’t been handed in already to them by campaign operatives (and by that I mean dems, they are known to play dirty like this, our side is not versed in this type of shennanigans ). To me this format sucks, don’t we know already that 0 will be asked all the softballs questions and Romney will get questions about bis taxes and other ‘bunch of stuff’ to quote from our hysterical vp :).. Besides this is the type of format that would allow 0 to ramble some more, monolgues campaign trail-style…it makes me sick to even thonk about it…Does anyone remember how this format worked 4 years ago? Though sure mclame and romney have different styles snd personalities, but still…

jimver on October 14, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Fallon on October 14, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Was Biden fun to watch?

Cleombrotus on October 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM

I root for the Mets and Pirates.

I submit this for your consideration, AP.

PatriotGal2257 on October 14, 2012 at 11:47 AM

…there was no shame with the way the VP moderator got involved for Joe Biden in the last debate…so don’t be surprised if somehow the audience even gets stacked in the next debate.

KOOLAID2 on October 14, 2012 at 11:49 AM

At Nats game and, man, they came our of the gates like Joe Biden!6-0 in the third!

— David Axelrod (@davidaxelrod) October 13, 2012

Oh, David – They DID “come out of the gates like joe Biden”……and The Cardinals BEAT THEM!!

The Nats Government Team LOST – just like Biden is going to!

williamg on October 14, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Was Biden fun to watch?

Cleombrotus on October 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM

No.

I think it’s safe to say that many, many, MANY people had the same reaction I had, which was to reach through the TV screen (or computer screen in my case) and punch him in his smarmy teeth. Several times. Hard.

PatriotGal2257 on October 14, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Where is Ambassador Rice? We want Ambassador Rice!

claudius on October 14, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Cleombrotus on October 14, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Guess I could have scrolled up a bit and read your previous comment to Fallon. Sorry about that, Chief. Not saying anything you don’t already know. :)

PatriotGal2257 on October 14, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Do you suppose that the if the president actually attended a few of his morning national security briefings, that he and Biden might have been a tad more aware of the requests for security in Libya?

applebutter on October 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM

…there was no shame with the way the VP moderator got involved for Joe Biden in the last debate…so don’t be surprised if somehow the audience even gets stacked in the next debate.

KOOLAID2 on October 14, 2012 at 11:49 AM

that’s what worries me…but how do you even prevent this? you don’t tell me that they check the audience’s voter registration status, to make it look like it’s even or balanced, or that there cannot be dem plants among them, even among those registered as ‘republicans’ or so…this is typical dem modus operandi, I wouldn’t put anything past them.. main worry is how authentic/legit these people in the audience are…after reading that interview in mcclatchy with one of the Koch brothers about the pressure and intimidation tactics they had to put up with from this admin, the dirty playing and all, it sickens me to think that we will see some of that at the next debate, especially that they are enraged coz of the last humiliating debate for barry, they are behind in the polls and they are desperate.

jimver on October 14, 2012 at 12:09 PM

The whole situation is “evolving”….(and not in their favor,just ignore everything until Nov. 8)

rodguy911 on October 14, 2012 at 9:53 AM

The only thing evolving (their newest deceit word–remember his evolving {sure it was} view on gay marriage?) is the truth, With progressive Marxists,it changes quicker than a note in “The Flight of the Bumble Bee.”

You can’t pin down change–that’s why they hide behind such nebulous slogans.

Don L on October 14, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Arlen Specter has died from cancer.

Flora Duh on October 14, 2012 at 1:26 PM

But one of the things I think Joe Biden did was in that intimate — in that little intimate table, it was very small, he was too big. He was like he was at a campaign event. So you could even — you could feel that, especially at that table, that — that Joe Biden was so aggressive. So there were surprises there. I was surprised at Paul Ryan, that he didn’t jump in more, but that was clearly the strategy. But when you walk off, you’re not quite sure how it went.

- Martha Raddatz, “This Week” on ABC, this morning

Resist We Much on October 14, 2012 at 6:05 PM

Watching Axeldodge get his butt nailed to concrete by Chris Wallace over Benghazi. The lies aren’t working for you or your boss, David. This administration lives in an alternate universe where they make up their own reality and actually think the rest of us believe their fiction.

Philly on October 14, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Axeldodge is saying that he agrees with Stephanie Cutter’s comments that Benghazi is a big deal because Romney and Ryan made it so. A murdered ambassador? Twenty-six diplomatic properties overrun or sacked? The Qaeda flag flying over four embassies? Do these morons play X-Box all day instead of running a country?

Loathesome. Amb. Stevens and three others are dead because of the administration’s failure to admit there is a War on Terror and their utter incompetence. This administration’s bumbling created the environment for them to be murdered.

Chris Wallace is reading him the riot act. What a scumbag.

Philly on October 14, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Ed Gillespie: A constantly shifting story from this administration. No kidding.

Axeldodge and Co. will throw anyone under the bus over this issue, even those who were not involved.

Chris Wallace is still agitated about this.

Philly on October 14, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Ed says for a week the administration blamed a video and apologized for it. More questions than answers and this nation deserves to know the truth.

Fat chance getting it. We will be peddled their version of the “truth”.

Philly on October 14, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Barry will not have a teleprompter, so that means he will ramble and BS a lot. Mitt needs to be aggressive and cut off Barry’s screeds if he rambles on.

Philly on October 14, 2012 at 9:45 AM

He doesn’t need a teleprompter. Gallup will select softball questions for which Obama has slick lines memorized.

Decoski on October 14, 2012 at 10:29 PM

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