Ohio coal miners to Obama: Stop lying

posted at 3:31 pm on October 14, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

First caught wind of this remarkable little side-bar story from Jim Hoft. Barack Obama has been quite busy trying to gin up support in all sectors, including claims this his “all of the above energy policies” were both helping and winning the support of energy workers, including coal miners. Even worse, the Left has been foisting some claims that Mitt Romney’s campaign has been “forcing” coal miners to attend his rallies. Out in the battleground state of Ohio, some of the aforementioned miners got together with the press to ask the President to cut out the “absolute lies.”

Coal miners at the American Energy Corp. Century Mine said they want President Barack Obama to stop what they term the war on coal – and to stop spreading mistruths about them.

Miners gathered Friday afternoon to express their opposition to Obamas energy and environmental policies, which they believe threaten their jobs. Miner Mitch Miracle read aloud a letter the miners mailed to Obama that outlines some of their concerns.

Here’s some of the text of the letter provided to local reporters.

There are numerous false statements and absolute lies concerning our participation in this event, mostly started by a local shock jock radio host, the miners letter to Obama states. Why would you (Obama) lie about the 500 working miners who have signed this letter? We, the employees of the Century Mine would request you immediately stop these false ads.

This summer, Murray Energy Corp., parent company of the Beallsville mine, cut or relocated 56 workers with the closure of the Red Bird West mine near Brilliant. Murray also cut 29 mining jobs from The Ohio Valley Coal Co.s Powhatan No. 6 Mine. All of this was done, Robert Murray said, because of Obamas war on coal.

Murray then hosted the August Romney campaign stop in Beallsville, during which many miners appeared behind Romney as the former Massachusetts governor spoke about the need to protect coal mining jobs. In response to the assertion some have made about the miners being forced to appear with Romney, the miners made the following points on Friday:

As for anyone who claims the miners were forced to attend, those on-site Friday said these assertions probably came from discharged or disgruntled former employees.

Well, that’s rather blunt and to the point, eh? But when it comes to the attitudes and experiences of hard working coal miners, who are you going to believe? The President or a bunch of sweaty, smelly guys in hard hats?

Discuss.


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Am I mistaken our are these good folks among the few to actually use the word “lies”?

Bravo! Enough with mincing terms.

PolAgnostic on October 14, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Obama will stop lying when rivers run backwards.

VorDaj on October 14, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Good on the Ohio miners. I’d of course take their word over Obama’s any day.

And by the way, take note of this, Pennsylvania miners. Obama most certainly means you as well. How about your own strongly worded letter?

PatriotGal2257 on October 14, 2012 at 3:37 PM

And we are to believe that this is the state that will put Obama over the top in the presidential election?

dirtseller on October 14, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Maybe I’m missing something… but I don’t see any mention of ‘union leadership’ in this post.

Just the rank-and-file miners.

Hmm… indeed.

CPT. Charles on October 14, 2012 at 3:38 PM

But when it comes to the attitudes and experiences of hard working coal miners, who are you going to believe? The President or a bunch of sweaty, smelly guys in hard hats?

I’ll take the coal miners anyday, Jazz. Good for them and bravo! Stand up to the small wenis dictator and call him a liar when he shows himself to be just that.

ted c on October 14, 2012 at 3:38 PM

A fake War On Women versus a real War On Coal and all American mining and energy sources.

pat on October 14, 2012 at 3:40 PM

these assertions probably came from discharged or disgruntled former employees.

Considering the either/or world of Democratic policies, the “disgruntled” have always been the #1 Democratic constituency group.

rwenger43 on October 14, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Here’s the video…


“Miners Fight Back Against Obama TV Ad: “Absolute Lies”

Seven Percent Solution on October 14, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Ohio coal miners to Obama: Stop lying

Obama stop lying? Have those miners been hanging out with the Choom spider? You all know what happens when you hang out with the Choom spider, right?

Joe Biden, Paul Ryan and Bibi’s “Red Line” time line.

SWalker on October 14, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Barry can’t stop lying; he’s a Chicago pol. The War on Coal is killing jobs and wallets all over this country.

Today I drove to the countryside where I was raised in W.Pa. I saw not one Obama bumpersticker or yard sign in 3 counties. All Romney, all the time.

Among the signs that dot the roadsign there: “Stop the War on Coal; fire Obama”.

Philly on October 14, 2012 at 3:45 PM

I’ll take the sweaty smelly guys any day. They are real men with integrity unlike the POTUS.

gophergirl on October 14, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Obama will stop lying when rivers run backwards.

VorDaj on October 14, 2012 at 3:36 PM

They already do. How else do you think I’m making the oceans recede?

-Obama the One, the All, the Everything

Bat Chain Puller on October 14, 2012 at 3:47 PM

“Discuss.”

Childish, amateurish, and pathetic. This site loses some of its gravitas every time this joker posts.

truecon on October 14, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Obama will stop lying when rivers run backwards.

VorDaj on October 14, 2012 at 3:36 PM

As a former Sailor involved in Riverine Operations on the Mekong River, I have to point out that many Rivers in fact do run backwards up to several hours a day based on tidal factors.

Linh_My on October 14, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Huh…… and I thought Obama was the candidate for the middle class…..

I guess coal miners are part of the bitter clinger club……

annyinboulder on October 14, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Seven Percent Solution on October 14, 2012 at 3:44 PM

..just between you and me, if that assemblage of men asked me to stop doing something, I would not hesitate.

They’s some mean motor-scooters, they is!

The War Planner on October 14, 2012 at 3:51 PM

It’s crucial to understand the new definition of lying. VP debate, Biden standard, October 12, 2012:
 

I do not think he lied – as in maliciously and intentionally said something he knew to be false.
There’s a difference, you know…
 
verbaluce on October 12, 2012 at 12:34 PM

 
If Obama intentionally says something false but does so to “help” other people and/or the environment, then it’s not lying.
 

There’s a difference, you know…

rogerb on October 14, 2012 at 3:51 PM

I think that was one of Romney’s strongest lines from the debate when he was talking about energy independence:

“And by the way, I like coal. I’m going to make sure we continue to burn clean coal. People in the coal industry feel like it’s getting crushed by your policies. I want to get America and North America energy independent, so we can create those jobs.”

CitizenEgg on October 14, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Here’s some of the text of the letter provided to local reporters.

…the MSM reporters are crawling away to get new knee pads?

KOOLAID2 on October 14, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Thank you Ohio coal miners! You know a lie when it is being told and all bho knows how to do is lie!

I put this on another thread. I don’t know if anyone else has posted this, if so sorry. Since bho will bring up bain in the next debate and will say Mitt lies, etc, etc, I hope Mitt will bring this up?

http://www.soopermexican.com/2012/10/14/obama-owns-shares-of-sensata-personally-benefits-by-outsourcing-jobs-to-china/
L

letget on October 14, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Here’s some of the text of the letter provided to local reporters.

…the MSM reporters are crawling away to get new knee pads?

KOOLAID2 on October 14, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Those damned Fifth Column Treasonous Media bastards are lucky they aren’t crawling away trying to find a first aid station or a Wambulance…

SWalker on October 14, 2012 at 3:57 PM

..just between you and me, if that assemblage of men asked me to stop doing something, I would not hesitate.

They’s some mean motor-scooters, they is!

The War Planner on October 14, 2012 at 3:51 PM

I bet they would pull out my chair and hold a door open for me way before Barry would.

gophergirl on October 14, 2012 at 3:57 PM

O wants to “greenify” the grid by replacing coal plants with wind and solar. Problem, that weakens the grid, raises costs across the board for the entire economy, and as in the UK is likely to subject us to black outs. Here is the latest:

The government is establishing 17 new “solar energy zones” on 285,000 acres in six states: California, Nevada, Arizona, Utah, Colorado and New Mexico. More than half of the land — 153,627 acres — is in Southern California….

This is insane. Also note the huge long-term ecohazard and clean up costs of solar farms, and this aspect is presented here. An excerpt:

Billions and billions [of $] and we’ve ended up with pretty much nothing. Actually, that’s not quite correct. What we will have, within two decades, is a clean up job that’ll make Chernobyl look like a training day. As the vast arrays of panels age, they’ll crack and contaminate the topsoil with poisonous chemical particles. Take a careful look at the photo below [see thepointmen link above], because that’s what we’ll have to pay to detoxify, and make no mistake, we’ll be the ones paying, despite a few of the companies installing these panels having given undertakings to dispose of the panels at the end of their service life. The hard-nosed investor in me reckons they’ll be safely bankrupt by the time any such expensive undertakings have to be honored.

anotherJoe on October 14, 2012 at 3:57 PM

They are asking obama and his admin to do the impossible: stop lying……it comes so natural for the dems, especially the chief liar

crosshugger on October 14, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Obama will never stop lying.

Robert Jensen on October 14, 2012 at 3:59 PM

When he says there is he has an all of the above energy strategy-He lies.

When he says you can keep your health insurance-He lies.

When he says his policies don’t cost jobs-He lies.

When he says our ambassador was killed in a spontaneous protest over a youtube video-He lies.

When he says he will cut the deficit in half-He lies.

When he says a national debt of $16,000,000,000,000 doesn’t matter-He lies.

When he says there is no war on religious liberty-He lies.

When he says Romney has a $5,000,000,000,000 tax cut-He lies.

talkingpoints on October 14, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Where are the auto workers???

They’ve already lost tens of thousands of jobs in Detroit. In addition, there were a huge number of jobs lost in the dealerships which Obummer ordered closed across the nation.

landlines on October 14, 2012 at 4:01 PM

talkingpoints on October 14, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Hell, I’m pretty sure that even when he claims that his name is Barack Obama he’s lying, pretty damned sure his name is actually Barry Soetoro.

SWalker on October 14, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Where are the auto workers???

They’ve already lost tens of thousands of jobs in Detroit. In addition, there were a huge number of jobs lost in the dealerships which Obummer ordered closed across the nation.

landlines on October 14, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Their not complaining because thanks to Obungler and their unions they are all still getting paid full pay.

SWalker on October 14, 2012 at 4:05 PM

How would Romney force anyone to attend a rally?

Terrye on October 14, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Yes where is national leadership. As a former Union member who quit because of the national leadership it is sad when the actual working members have to do that. If I could belong to the local and pay no dues to the national I would. Unfortunately I cannot. I am still on good terms with the Local and they understood why I quit.

BullShooterAsInElk on October 14, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Their not complaining because thanks to Obungler and their unions they are all still getting paid full pay.

SWalker on October 14, 2012 at 4:05 PM

I don’t think dealerships have unions. Do they?

Terrye on October 14, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Groan…I’ve been posting this since the 2008 election campaign.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_mining_in_the_United_States

Twenty-six states produce coal.The major coal-producing states are (in descending order as of 2000, with annual production in thousands of short tons):

Wyoming (338,900).
West Virginia (158,257)
Kentucky (130,688)
Pennsylvania (74,619)
Texas (49,498)
Montana (38,352)
Illinois (33,444)
Virginia (32,834)
North Dakota (31,270)
Colorado (29,137)
Indiana (27,965)
New Mexico (27,323)
Utah (26,656)
Ohio (22,269)
Alabama (19,324)
Arizona (13,111)

Total United States: 1,437,174

Twenty six state up for grabs. Where the hxxx is the Republican campaign committees.

How many of those twenty-six are swing states.

WE can win!!!!!

patch on October 14, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Good for the coal miners speaking out! Glad to know that they’re aware of Obamuh’s economy choking policies with regard to coal and his threats to bankrupt the coal industry–and basically America since it would make electricity essentially unaffordable.

stukinIL4now on October 14, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Related, the lefties are all in a tizzy this morning about Romney supposedly making Sensata move jobs to China. As if he has more control of Bain than the big Democrat donors running it.

juliesa on October 14, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Thank you to the coal miners for standing up to obama and for posting the video.

Paddington on October 14, 2012 at 4:32 PM

How would Romney force anyone to attend a rally?

Terrye on October 14, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Their lie was that their boss, the owner of the mine, made them attend the rally.

juliesa on October 14, 2012 at 4:32 PM

SWalker on October 14, 2012 at 4:05 PM

I don’t think dealerships have unions. Do they?

Terrye on October 14, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Nobody was talking about car dealership. Auto workers in Detroit does not refer to car dealerships, it refers to those who manufacture automobiles.

SWalker on October 14, 2012 at 4:33 PM

I do not think he lied – as in maliciously and intentionally said something he knew to be false.
There’s a difference, you know…

verbaluce on October 12, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Yeah, the difference is, you know, that a responsible person would have looked into the matter before airing an ad based on the premise.

ShadowsPawn on October 14, 2012 at 4:37 PM

I bet they would pull out my chair and hold a door open for me way before Barry would.

gophergirl on October 14, 2012 at 3:57 PM

..bet you’re right, ma’am! Somehow I do not think their moms would tolerate bad manners out of those men!

Hardworking, salt of the earth, raised right!

The War Planner on October 14, 2012 at 4:37 PM

Yeah, the difference is, you know, that a responsible person would have looked into the matter before airing an ad based on the premise.

ShadowsPawn on October 14, 2012 at 4:37 PM

IF Joe Biden or Barack Obama were honest responsible individuals they would have done the honorable thing at their respective debates and committed Seppuku during those debates…

SWalker on October 14, 2012 at 4:42 PM

I bet they would pull out my chair and hold a door open for me way before Barry would.

gophergirl on October 14, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Almost assuredly.

ShadowsPawn on October 14, 2012 at 4:43 PM

..and, in other really, really fun news, Arlen The Spectre started his dirt nap today!

What a day brightener, eh?

The War Planner on October 14, 2012 at 4:44 PM

..and, in other really, really fun news, Arlen The Spectre started his dirt nap today!

What a day brightener, eh?

The War Planner on October 14, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Speaking ill of the dead is for liberals. I myself pray that in his passing, his family and loved ones are able to find the comfort and support of the Lord most merciful.

SWalker on October 14, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Barry would.

Expect you to hold HIS door open, pull HIS chair out! bho has less than zero class, as does mo, IMO!
L

letget on October 14, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Speaking ill of the dead is for liberals. I myself pray that in his passing, his family and loved ones are able to find the comfort and support of the Lord most merciful.

SWalker on October 14, 2012 at 4:47 PM

..you are right, of course. I forgot myself. I recant and express the same sentiments as you have.

The War Planner on October 14, 2012 at 5:02 PM

These coal miners need to make sure everyone around them knows what THIS Admin is doing to THEIR lively hood.

mmcnamer1 on October 14, 2012 at 5:29 PM

These coal miners are smart enough to know that mailing a letter to BHO will accomplish nothing, so they went public for the world to see.

Bravo!!

GrannyDee on October 14, 2012 at 5:33 PM

In a truly Orwellian sense the Obama campaign is like a Ministry of Mistruth. Starting with energy, despite O’s desire to see energy prices skyrocket, and his Secretary of (Anti-) Energy Stephen Chu’s stated goal of $10 a gallon gas, their opposition to the XL Pipeline, to fracking, to coal, to offshore drilling or drilling in Alaska, to new federal drilling permits anywhere, despite this O maintains that they have an “all of the above” energy policy when it’s actually “none of the above” except for fanciful green energy that is little more than a costly pointless boondoggle that is feathering the nest of O’s campaign cronies!
On coal, of course it’s Orwellian, to run ads saying Romney is against coal and O is in favor of coal, when O explicitly said that his policies will bankrupt coal, and coal plants are now shutting down en masse thanks to O. Fortunately, thanks to these coal miners, O’s lying ads are not going to go unchallenged.

anotherJoe on October 14, 2012 at 5:37 PM

If the left is accusing us of something, you know it’s something that they do themselves.

29Victor on October 14, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Is it just me, or was anyone else incredibly moved when looking into the faces of these men?

That these salt of the earth, hardworking men have the courage to speak truth to power is, for me, representative of the foundation of our country.

Can’t imagine a limousine liberal or faculty room professor lasting a week doing the work these men do.

susietwo on October 14, 2012 at 5:39 PM

Sweaty, smelly guys with nary a crisp pant crease among them, I might add!!

Axeman on October 14, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Is it just me, or was anyone else incredibly moved when looking into the faces of these men?

That these salt of the earth, hardworking men have the courage to speak truth to power is, for me, representative of the foundation of our country.
susietwo on October 14, 2012 at 5:39 PM

We saw it with the reaction to the Tea Party. They’re just simply racist.

Axeman on October 14, 2012 at 5:42 PM

I do not think he lied – as in maliciously and intentionally said something he knew to be false.
There’s a difference, you know…

verbaluce on October 12, 2012 at 12:34 PM

verbaluce is trying to tell you that obama’s lie-lies are are not really lies, kinda of like whoopys rape-rapes is not really rape. Lies are only lie-lies if conservatives or republicans are accused of telling them. If Libruls tell them they are truth-lies.

By the way, verbaluce, maliciousness and intention have no input into whether something is a lie or truth. Remember obama lied and people died – Libya, fast and furious, Afganistan.

Old Country Boy on October 14, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Can we win Ohio?

I am here, in Lucas County, a 40 year-old small business owner with to much to do and not enough time to do it… but incapable of hiring. I work with other contractors and vendors to make things happen. It is rough in Lucas County for businesses trying to offer other businesses services.

I am terribly afraid of the impact of Ohio on the election. The latest Romney surge is helping to lower my blood pressure, but I can’t sleep at night and I refresh Hot Air, Drudge, Breitbart on my third monitor every 60 seconds!

These coal miners give me hope. But will it be enough against Obamaphone giveaways?

COME ON OHIO!

nitzsche on October 14, 2012 at 6:08 PM

“Barry can’t stop lying; he’s a muslim.” FIFY

sablegsd on October 14, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Groan…I’ve been posting this since the 2008 election campaign.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_mining_in_the_United_States

Twenty-six states produce coal.The major coal-producing states are (in descending order as of 2000, with annual production in thousands of short tons):

Wyoming (338,900).
West Virginia (158,257)
Kentucky (130,688)
Pennsylvania (74,619)
Texas (49,498)
Montana (38,352)
Illinois (33,444)
Virginia (32,834)
North Dakota (31,270)
Colorado (29,137)
Indiana (27,965)
New Mexico (27,323)
Utah (26,656)
Ohio (22,269)
Alabama (19,324)
Arizona (13,111)

Total United States: 1,437,174

Twenty six state up for grabs. Where the hxxx is the Republican campaign committees.

How many of those twenty-six are swing states.

WE can win!!!!!

patch on October 14, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Besides Illinois, do you really see Obama winning any of those states?

Sign of the Dollar on October 14, 2012 at 6:37 PM

Groan…I’ve been posting this since the 2008 election campaign.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_mining_in_the_United_States

Twenty-six states produce coal.The major coal-producing states are (in descending order as of 2000, with annual production in thousands of short tons):

Wyoming (338,900).
West Virginia (158,257)
Kentucky (130,688)
Pennsylvania (74,619)
Texas (49,498)
Montana (38,352)
Illinois (33,444)
Virginia (32,834)
North Dakota (31,270)
Colorado (29,137)
Indiana (27,965)
New Mexico (27,323)
Utah (26,656)
Ohio (22,269)
Alabama (19,324)
Arizona (13,111)

Total United States: 1,437,174

Twenty six state up for grabs. Where the hxxx is the Republican campaign committees.

How many of those twenty-six are swing states.

WE can win!!!!!

patch on October 14, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Besides Illinois, do you really think Obama will win any of those states this time around?

Sign of the Dollar on October 14, 2012 at 6:40 PM

This is par for the course for Democrats. They regularly force public employees to support them (like when Clinton would order uniformed police officers to stand behind him while he was promoting gun control bills) and then resort to projection to accuse Republicans of doing the same with no evidence whatsoever.

I once attended a public hearing and spoke in opposition to some local gun control proposals. After the meeting, a reporter from the local paper came and asked us if it was true that we had been paid to be there. What a joke, most of us had to take time off from work to be there and had lost money. The guys in favor of the ordinance who accused us, however, ran a leftie non-government organization and drew a salary from the government grants and public donations it received.

Socratease on October 14, 2012 at 7:01 PM

Obama will stop lying when rivers run backwards.

VorDaj on October 14, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Don’t get your hopes up.

Barnestormer on October 14, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Wholesale prices rose at 1.1% in September, and 1.7% in August. So, in the last two months, in effect, inflation has been running at a rate 17%. Is this the start of Carterian nightmare?

This is expected result, happening now, of O’s war on energy, and of his “quantitative easing” or money printing that he just unleashed. Funny that Rick Perry warned against this and said that if Bernanke did it then it would be tantamount to treason, but Bernanke just went ahead and quietly did it just weeks ago.
High unemployment and high inflation together = STAGFLATION, this is now the disaster of O’s stagconomy.
Stagnating incomes, rising prices, and persistent underpaid underemployment is the curse of O’s stagconomy.

anotherJoe on October 14, 2012 at 7:35 PM

If Romney’s campaign staff had any intelligence, they’d be blanketing southeast Ohio and western Pennsylvania with ads showing Obama saying he will bankrupt coal power plants and rates will “necessarily skyrocket” ending with Romney’s statement during the debate where he says he likes clean coal. Remind those miners who blindly vote for the (D) because their union thugs tell them so, that their jobs are in jeopardy.

Decoski on October 14, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Romney campaign ought to be running the ’08 video of Obama promising to bankrupt coal plant operators. Just run it continuously in every coal state.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aTf5gjvNvo

rayra on October 15, 2012 at 3:54 AM

Maybe I’m missing something… but I don’t see any mention of ‘union leadership’ in this post.

Just the rank-and-file miners.

Hmm… indeed.

CPT. Charles on October 14, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Believe it or not, most of us private sector workers are more conservative than you may think. I work with many myself. Its the loud union leaders that give us all a bad name. That and Public sector unions.

Now would I get rid of my union? You bet ya, then again my head stinks to high heaven and maybe a new face will get it back on track.

watertown on October 15, 2012 at 6:49 AM

Obama will stop lying when rivers run backwards.

VorDaj on October 14, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Well, our river does flow north, but that’s a glacier’s fault…and Obama’s still lying.

SKYFOX on October 15, 2012 at 9:03 AM