New Romney ad features laughing Biden while Ryan talks fiscal discipline

posted at 2:01 pm on October 14, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

How did the two campaigns see the Vice Presidential debate on Thursday?  Team Romney doesn’t seem to be feeling too defensive about Paul Ryan’s performance — and apparently want voters to see Joe Biden’s.  Their new ad shows Ryan explaining that the country needs the fiscal discipline that the Obama administration lacks, while Biden throws rhetorical discipline (and manners) to the wind:

We can’t keep spending and borrowing like this. We can’t just keep spending money we don’t have. Look did they come in and inherit a tough situation? Absolutely. But we’re going in the wrong direction! Look at where we are. The economy is barely limping along.

Don’t raise taxes on small businesses, because they’re our job creators.

Leaders run to problems to fix problems. Mitt Romney is uniquely qualified to fix these problems.

So, what kind of ads are Team Obama running after the debate?

Apparently, they still don’t have a message that doesn’t include puppets and misdirection.  And this isn’t the only moment from the debate where Team Romney can go after Biden. He laughed his way through a conversation on Iranian nuclear weapons, which even creeped out Tom Brokaw.  Don’t be surprised to see that in an ad soon.

Here’s another measure of how the two campaigns saw the VP debate.  Mitt Romney’s on the stump in Ohio, campaigning hard in the last three weeks before the election.  Obama, however, is in seclusion, trying to figure out how to fix his debate debacles:

“In times like this, what is [President Obama] talking about? Saving Big Bird,” the Republican presidential candidate told cheering supporters in Portsmouth, Ohio. “As I look around … his campaign is about smaller and smaller things. And our campaign is about bigger and bigger crowds fighting for a brighter future.”

While Mr. Obama was off the campaign trail Saturday working on preparation for Tuesday’s debate, the Rebublican ticket was busy criss-crossing swing-state Ohio on Saturday, with vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan leading a rally in Youngstown and Mr. Romney holding the event in Portsmouth and another in Lebanon.

Mr. Romney has been drawing huge crowds since last week’s debate with Mr. Obama – a debate that even the president’s supporters acknowledged did not go well for the incumbent. On Wednesday the former Massachusetts governor drew almost 10,000 supporters to an event in Sidney, Ohio, that officials originally thought would draw a crowd of about a thousand.

That speaks volumes about the confidence level of both campaigns after the first two debates.

Update: Here’s a brief snapshot of the impact of the VP debate by SurveyUSA in Tampa, Florida.  They asked 704 general-population adults — a sample type normally more disposed toward Democrats (D/R/I in this case is 35/37/28, almost exactly the same as the 2010 midterms for the state) — about their impresssions of the debate.    Ryan edged Biden as the winner, 42/38, but that’s not the biggest takeaway:

13% say they changed which candidate for President they support as a result of the debate. Of those who tell SurveyUSA they changed their mind:

44% switched from the Obama ticket to the Romney ticket.
29% switched from undecided to the Romney ticket.
A total of 73% switched to the Romney ticket.

18% switched from the Romney ticket to the Obama ticket.
6% switched from undecided to the Obama ticket.
A total of 24% switched to the Obama ticket.

That’s not a huge sample, obviously, but 13% is around the level of undecided/soft voters nationally.  And in Tampa at least, they seem to be breaking hard toward the GOP.


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So, PolAgnostic, those that would like to engage at this point by pointing out that a Townhall meeting is not Romney’s strong suit because Obama can strut around and stand directly in front of Romney, where he sits properly, waiting his turn to answer the question that was posed by a republican, but then ‘remodeled’ by the moderator into a softball to Obama – need not write on this blog because its being watched by Obama’s side and that’s why they’re taking 4 days off? To model the fears from the blogs and thus go after that angle?

Wow. Squaring the circle never seemed so……………Sn hat.

athenadelphi on October 14, 2012 at 6:17 PM

I love the new Romney/Ryan ad with Biden laughing. Its great. More material is needed and I think that the townhall meeting will provide it. k

athenadelphi on October 14, 2012 at 6:20 PM

I wonder if Big Bird will get to ask Romney a question in the next debate, lol? Wouldn’t surprise me at all.

xblade on October 14, 2012 at 6:56 PM

@edmorrissey @michellemalkin #obama campaign still using #bigbird tv ad, #snl, at 12:07am edt. still keeping it classy, huh, guys? #debates — David L Alexander (@manwithblackhat) October 14, 2012

Not everyone knows or cares what this gibberish means. Clicking on the links just leads to more of the same gobbledegoop. Is it too much to ask that threads be in English?

Akzed on October 14, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Why do I have this sickening feeling that Romney won’t go for the throat in the next debate but instead retreat to Mr. Caution, pour water on all his momentum and enthusiasm, and let Obama back up off the mat?

rrpjr on October 14, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Because you are a huge p*ssy? Relax Lady.

the new aesthetic on October 14, 2012 at 9:04 PM

So, PolAgnostic, those that would like to engage at this point by pointing out that a Townhall meeting is not Romney’s strong suit because Obama can strut around and stand directly in front of Romney, where he sits properly, waiting his turn to answer the question that was posed by a republican, but then ‘remodeled’ by the moderator into a softball to Obama – need not write on this blog because its being watched by Obama’s side and that’s why they’re taking 4 days off? To model the fears from the blogs and thus go after that angle?

Wow. Squaring the circle never seemed so……………Sn hat.

athenadelphi on October 14, 2012 at 6:17 PM

Sooo, what do you propose? Do you have any concrete advice for Romney maybe, how and where he shoud sit, awaiting the audience’s questions, or anything that he can do to quell your worries :)..you talk as if there’s anything that Romney can do, if this format does not favor him, or is not his strong suit, as you said, then that’s that, what else can he do about it, he’s not in charge with the logistic of the event, or with vetting the audience, ot the format, or the moderator…is he now?? He can try to adapt and make the best of the opportunity, but there are no guarantees…

jimver on October 14, 2012 at 9:09 PM

I’m sorry, but I’m still nervous about the so-called independents. They seem to change their minds on a whim. If Obama comes out “winning” the next debates, I’m afraid they will go for Obama. There are too many stupid people who are distracted by the shiny object of the day.

Decoski on October 14, 2012 at 10:05 PM

So, I have read that obama is taking 4 days for “cramming” for the next debate. I have 2 problems with this: 1) He has been the president for 4 years, how much cramming does he actually need? and 2) This debate is in a town hall format so questions will be coming from the audience. How does he cram for that situation, UNLESS he’s being fed the questions.
I put nothing past this putz.

skeedro on October 14, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Answer: he will know the questions that will be asked and needs time to memorize snappy lines to herd the straying sheeple (independents).

Decoski on October 14, 2012 at 10:09 PM

As Krauthammer said, Biden must have watched Jack Nicholson’s maniacal grin in The Shining as debate prep.

If I had been taking a medical history from someone acting like Biden did, I would note “inappropriate affect”. The last time that I heard inappropriate laughter like that, it came from a patient with Schizoaffective disorder. Seriously.

(FYI – schizoaffective disorder is depression or bipolar disorder that is severe enough that the patient hallucinates.) I may not be a psychiatrist (boarded in Internal Med) but I have had enough general psych to have a reasonable feel for “not normal”. And that was not normal behavior. If it was an act, it represents a debating tactic that was absolutely vile. If it wasn’t an act, well….

Note to people thinking about running for political office: You will not impress your constituients by channeling Heath Ledger’s Joker.

SubmarineDoc on October 14, 2012 at 10:13 PM

I don’t believe 18% of anyone moved from BO to MR due to that debate.

Bob's Kid on October 14, 2012 at 10:52 PM

My apolitical son just said, “This guy screwed the pooch. He was beyond obnoxious.” Now he’s as anxious to defeat Obama as my politically-aware kids. YAY!!!

grits on October 15, 2012 at 12:50 AM

Yes… it is a fact Barack Obama and Joe Biden had been the President and Vice President for the past 3 1/2 Years. Yes, it is a fact they have a record to run on……..but indeed what you are witnessing is the current administration is spending more assets running AWAY from their record than accepting responsibility for their record.

The “I INHERITED THIS MESS…” Malarkey is what third world amateurs parade around town trying to fool the masses into keeping them into power while they rape and plunder the countries avail assets for their own evil minions and overlords.

Democrats are not only the dullest tools in the shed their are indeed the most diabolical and corrupt too. You could fork over every single solitary penny in existence for them to initiate 100% of the programs,projects and schemes they think will create their perfect planet and they couldn’t get 5% off them off the ground let alone operate them to any level of efficiency.

Obama-Biden vote = Nail in America’s coffin

ActinUpinTexas on October 15, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Looking back at the VP debate there was an opinion that Ryan held his own but didn’t create a memorable moment

Biden used a gimmick used in court to shake witnesses and distract the jury from facts. Biden did everything but blow spitballs at Ryan to try and get Ryan to explode, to lose it, and hopefully blurt out something that Biden could run with. Biden had to keep Ryan from getting a clear message out, and he had to keep the audience from listening to what Biden would have to say.

In retrospect, Ryan did more than hold his own. He didn’t throw the old dog a bone

IMHO the WH handlers didn’t want Biden to be the one to explain Obama and are saving it for the next obama debate, buying time as news events unfold

More concrete info may be coming out of Libya and they had to limit Biden’s story until the next re write. Probably not just the Libya story may need a re write soon

Ryan could have made a memorable moment out of Biden, but what he did left the DEMs high and dry. No meat for an ad campaign, but plenty for the GOP

Meanwhile the DEMs are beating the 47 percent to death. They do not care about the details, they are trying to cement ’47′ into public memory, possibly for a blitz attack using a second piece of information in the week or weekend before polls open

They need the 47 too much methinks

entagor on October 15, 2012 at 2:13 PM

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