Intel sources: Video from Benghazi attack debunks administration claim about protests
posted at 1:21 pm on October 12, 2012 by Mary Katharine Ham
I can heartily recommend everything Eli Lake of Newsweek has written on the Benghazi attack. He’s been all over this story from day one and has great sources. Today, he reports that the FBI and administration are examining closed-circuit video from the Benghazi compound at the time of the attack along with video from an overhead surveillance drone.
They’re hoping to identify known jihadists among the perpetrators, but Lake reports the tapes have already made one thing clear. There was no protest at the Benghazi consulate that day:
Video footage from the United States consulate in Benghazi, Libya, taken the night of the Sept. 11 anniversary attacks, shows an organized group of armed men attacking the compound, according to two U.S. intelligence officials who have seen the footage and are involved in the ongoing investigation. The footage, which was recovered from the site last week by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, offers some of the most tangible evidence yet that a military-style assault took place, according to these officials…
The videos could also play into an expanding investigation by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform that is looking at whether security steps could have been taken that would have saved the life of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans killed that day. Rep. Jason Chaffetz, who is one of the Republicans leading the House investigation, says he hasn’t been given the footage.
In addition to the footage from the consulate cameras, the U.S. government is also poring over video taken from an overhead U.S. surveillance drone that arrived for the final hour of the night battle at the consulate compound and nearby annex.
Video from the compound’s cameras debunk the initial line from the Obama administration that there was a protest in front of the consulate on the night of the attacks, according to one of the U.S. intelligence officials who has seen the footage, and a senior Obama administration official familiar with what they show.
The FBI just collected this footage from the site last week, almost a month after the attack. I’ll send you over to read the rest.
Flashback: The Washington Post reviews the changing statements from the administration on the Benghazi attack as it went from spontaneous video-inspired melee to admission of a coordinated terrorist attack.
CNN presented Stephanie Cutter with a montage of many of those statements Thursday, starting at about 1:30, below:
And yet Vice President Joe Biden and Obama campaign mouthpieces Cutter and Ben Labolt have said in the past day that those changes in story were simply a result of changing intelligence, given swiftly and forthrightly to the American people, despite copious reporting to the contrary.
Campaign manager Jim Messina doubled down on that specious defense last night while attempting to defend Biden’s erroneous statement on Benghazi security requests, which Ed covered here.
Update: TPM’s Evan McMorris-Santoro caught up with Obama campaign manager Jim Messina after the debate and asked him about Biden’s Libya answer as to whether the administration was asked for more security.
“We have been honest with the American people repeatedly on what we knew, when we knew it and we’ll get the facts and make sure if there’s things we need to improve in the future, thats what we’ll do,” he said.
A couple of exit quotations (Allahpundit™) from security forces in Libya, from Thursday’s hearings, which Biden was apparently unable to watch:
“All of us at post were in sync that we wanted these resources,” the top regional security officer in Libya over the summer, Eric Nordstrom, testified. “In those conversations, I was specifically told [by Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Charlene Lamb] ‘You cannot request an SST extension.’ I determined I was told that because there would be too much political cost. We went ahead and requested it anyway.”
Nordstrom was so critical of the State Department’s reluctance to respond to his calls for more security that he said, “For me, the Taliban is on the inside of the building.”
Another one:
“We felt great frustration that those requests were ignored or just never met,” testified Lt. Col. Andrew Wood, a Utah National Guardsman who was leading a security team in Libya until August.
“Once the first team of [temporary personnel] expired, there was a complete and total lack of planning for what was going to happen next,” he said. “There was no plan, there was just hope that everything would get better.”
“It was instantly recognizable as a terrorist attack. We almost expected the attack to come. It was a matter of time,” Wood said. “[Al Qaeda's] presence grows there every day. They are certainly more established there than we are.”
Now, investigators and lawmakers will be able to go to the tape on that.
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Tip of the iceberg.
I said that at first I wasn’t all that fussed about the AP scandal. I may have been wrong. This may be the thing that brings down this administration, either directly or indirectly by making an enemy of the press.
Chris of Rights on May 21, 2013 at 10:43 AM
Any of those deemed “unfriednly” to the admin, which probably means everybody at Fox and none at MSNBC.
changer1701 on May 21, 2013 at 10:44 AM
This whole mess don’t just have legs…It has more tentacles than a school of squid.
Psycotte on May 21, 2013 at 10:46 AM
Uh uh! You’re just a paranoid conservative!!!!
-Libs
Seriously – if you think they haven’t tapped every reporter that ever reported on them – you’re just fooling yourself.
CycloneCDB on May 21, 2013 at 10:46 AM
She should unplug her computer and take it to the best security hacking firm available.
Shy Guy on May 21, 2013 at 10:46 AM
The word “slime” comes to mind.
Shy Guy on May 21, 2013 at 10:47 AM
Funny, we did not worry about these things when W was President.
Jabberwock on May 21, 2013 at 10:48 AM
Ministry of Truth goons will soon be knocking at her door.
MTF on May 21, 2013 at 10:48 AM
Add the First Amendment to the Second Amendment on the Obama Administration’s Enemies List.
Good Lt on May 21, 2013 at 10:48 AM
If Attkisson has been bugged and tapped, it was probably with the okay from CBS management. They have been working hand in hand with the REB to torpedo her.
In fact maybe this is the bigger scandal, reporters tapped with the okay of old media management.
slickwillie2001 on May 21, 2013 at 10:49 AM
Under red communism, if we reported on our neighbors, they would have to spend money on spying on them.
seven on May 21, 2013 at 10:50 AM
Seems as if this government is headed toward using the term, “undesirables”…
d1carter on May 21, 2013 at 10:50 AM
If she’s smart, she’ll have stuff backed up off-site. Way off-site.
CurtZHP on May 21, 2013 at 10:51 AM
Not just her Guy, EVERY reporter that has made even the slightest effort to expose scandal.
JusDreamin on May 21, 2013 at 10:52 AM
And all those organizations should be ashamed to be called “reasonable” in this manner, but they’re not.
hawksruleva on May 21, 2013 at 10:53 AM
And now the targeting of GM dealerships owned by Republicans seems more plausable.
At this point I would even believe that HAARP has been engaged to cause these tornadoes to divert attention from the scandals and target the reddest of red states.
This is how far this has gone.
Crazy times we live in
neyney on May 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM
Ask your employer, preferably in writing, for clarification they were not sharing your information with outside entities.
Keep the response for your EPLI suit as well as defending yourself against the child porn, state secrets, illegal tax records etc that are going to be found on your computer in the near future.
Play right out of Alinsky’s rules for radicals
acyl72 on May 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM
How much news have they suppressed?
How many other reporters?
First they came for the reporters, and I said nothing…..
….a free AND independent press…..
ted c on May 21, 2013 at 10:57 AM
And she should have done it before she mentioned her concerns on television.
TexasDan on May 21, 2013 at 10:58 AM
Big winners: convenience stores selling disposable cellphones in the NY-DC corridor.
slickwillie2001 on May 21, 2013 at 10:58 AM
I, for one, wouldn’t be very sure. Pathological liars don’t respect those who buy into their tales, with an attitude of, “What a bunch of dumba$$es!”
I’m sure MSNBC types were also looked at, because the press is still too free for the liking of these people running the country. No one can be fully trusted. Besides, if MSNBC and CNN people were looked into and they discover it, I can’t imagine them making it public. It would be too embarrassing and bubble-bursting for certain individuals, like Chrissy Matthews.
Liam on May 21, 2013 at 10:58 AM
I’m still waiting for the “ton of bricks” to fall on this administration. When do we on the right get an apology from the “mainstream” media. There’s not a single one of us high-info voters who didn’t warn everyone we know about this and other Alinsky-type political behavior.
And now we learn that McCain is “strategizing” with Obama. The same guy in 2008 who told a voter at a rally that Obama was a “good man.”
InterestedObserver on May 21, 2013 at 10:59 AM
When W was President, every CIA snooping technique ever invented was splashed across the front page of the New York Slimes.
Now when we have one honest MSM reporter, among the hundreds of sycophants, doing her due diligence, Big Brother is watching her.
Steve Z on May 21, 2013 at 11:00 AM
Like her bosses trying to build a case for firing her because she is allegedly engaging in “advocacy journalism”?
farsighted on May 21, 2013 at 11:01 AM
Wow. I was seriously starting to doubt myself for a while, because I have never been a conspiracy theorist, yet I was feeling kind of paranoid about this administration. I kept trying to convince myself that I was just imagining things, or maybe spending too much time on political blogs, hahaha. Now however, I see that I was not a conspiracy nut, I was right all along. I’m not feeling a lot of joy at being vindicated, though. It’s not supposed to be like this in America.
Boudica on May 21, 2013 at 11:02 AM
Totally corrupt to the core. Hey, most of us knew this is who Obama’s kind were back in 2008. We warned, America slept. Now we are trillions more in debt, and headed straight to
CommunismHellkirkill on May 21, 2013 at 11:02 AM
Truth is stranger than fiction but that doesn’t mean fiction isn’t strange – and interesting – enough with all that’s going on right now.
Despite a plethora of honest-to-goodness conspiracies devised and coordinated by a president and an entire federal government, Hollywood won’t touch any of it.
They are happy to make films like Silkwood and Erin Brockovich but of course the agenda comes first, then the storytelling.
jangle12 on May 21, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Stalinesque. It’s only a matter of time before these thugs teach our children how to denounce us for higher standing in the Young Pioneers for Obama brigade.
Happy Nomad on May 21, 2013 at 11:04 AM
jangle12 on May 21, 2013 at 11:03 AM
great point, Hey Hollywood! This admin is script ready!
kirkill on May 21, 2013 at 11:04 AM
If this goes much further, it’s going to be interesting to find out which reporters and/or news organizations were not being monitored. That would be a nice list of FOB’s (Friends of Barack) in the media. We know some of the “usual suspects” (NYT, LAT, etc.) but it might become a little Washington inside game, to see which list you’re on.
Fun times.
IndieDogg on May 21, 2013 at 11:05 AM
Those wacky low-level staffers are at it again?
Man, those guys do get around don’t they?
PackerBronco on May 21, 2013 at 11:05 AM
If true, what idiot thought Al Qaeda would hand over the stinger missiles?
Dumb and Dumber.
fogw on May 21, 2013 at 11:06 AM
wrong thread. sorry.
fogw on May 21, 2013 at 11:08 AM
What do you think the AP seizures were for? They wanted to intimidate other news outlets not to make things tough for the administration.
Happy Nomad on May 21, 2013 at 11:08 AM
Time to run forensics on all of these systems and track down any suspicious intrusions. While NCIS is a little too glib in portraying McGeek’s l33t haksor skilz, the fundamental concepts of what he’s able to glean from his 30 second analyses are sound. A good computer forensics analyst should be able to get a lot of info if these various systems have been hacked, given enough time and resources.
nukemhill on May 21, 2013 at 11:08 AM
Gee…ya think?
Apparently Apple doesn’t pay corporate taxes anywhere…and Google is underfire for that in the UK.
I think we’re gonna find a whole lot of co-operative communications companies in the Techie Cabal involved as Toadies for Il Duce and his Ministry of Truth and Justice.
FB
Verizon
Google
etc.
workingclass artist on May 21, 2013 at 11:08 AM
The press won’t turn on The One until he stops funding Planned Parenthood or lowers taxes on the rich.
They are all in on the struggle. Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet.
goflyers on May 21, 2013 at 11:09 AM
My theory is that the media has buried everything.
This is the only story that could counter act the media itself.
But then I used to believe honest Democrats would come forward and make this administration go a way.
I was wrong about Democrats and I am probably wrong that there are any true reporters left either.
petunia on May 21, 2013 at 11:09 AM
Hey Ms. Atkinson, here’s a journalism 101 tip for ya:
a reporter’s job is to report the story, not become the story
you going on Laura Ingram is dangerously wading into creating a story
nonpartisan on May 21, 2013 at 11:10 AM
I also wouldn’t put it past her superiors at CBS, who have to be unhappy with her F&F and Benghazi reports, which put His Holiness, Obama, in a bad light. I could see them fishing around in her computer for dirt to be used to suppress her reporting or should she sue them for firing her.
Then again, they’re nothing but an extension of Obama anyway.
TXUS on May 21, 2013 at 11:10 AM
The press, so completely in love with Obama, has discovered what every eighth grade girl who puts out for the high school junior on Saturday night finds out on Monday morning: it wasn’t true love after all. I’m betting that Obama actually has more respect for the Fox folk and the Rushes than he does for the leg-tingling types at MSNBC.
The good news is all those eighth grade girls have begun to discover one another and some of them have put on chastity belts. What a surprise for Obama when he leans over one of them next time and — clank! It’s starting to happen and the clanking is only going to get louder.
MaxMBJ on May 21, 2013 at 11:10 AM
Stop Censoring the News!
MRC petition link
https://www.mrc.org/action/stop-censoring-news
MRC information site
http://www.mrc.org/
workingclass artist on May 21, 2013 at 11:11 AM
Yeah tell that to James Rosen, you moron.
Doughboy on May 21, 2013 at 11:11 AM
I’ll add BING to that list. They never feature anything negative about the POTUS. What was featured this morning? A smiling pic of Obama and the news that his rating are still the same as before the scandals hit. The caption? “Obama still liked” seriously.
neyney on May 21, 2013 at 11:11 AM
Meh, all they have to do is tweak a few Twilight Zone and Outer Limits scripts and, voila!:
“There is nothing wrong with your computer. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are now in control of the transmission. We control the horizontal and the vertical. We can deluge you with a thousand messages, or expand one single image to crystal clarity and beyond. We will shape your vision to anything our imagination can conceive. For as long as you live, we will control all that you see and hear”
Your caring and ever watchful Big Bro Barry.
hawkeye54 on May 21, 2013 at 11:12 AM
What are some Harvard Law 101 classes?
If Atkinson’s computer was infiltrated by the government then that qualifies as news. It’s probably also news to Harvard Law that you claim to be one of their grads.
NotCoach on May 21, 2013 at 11:13 AM
The good news is “24″ now has a fresh, new–and plausible–storyline to develop for the next couple of seasons.
hoosiermama on May 21, 2013 at 11:14 AM
The one that claims to be non-partisan is attacking the messengers. Too funny.
NotCoach on May 21, 2013 at 11:15 AM
Listen to the clip, first.
Attkisson: “I’m not fully ready to state something that have effected me, because I’m trying to be methodical and careful about what I say. But, there has been an issue in my house and an issue with my computers, it’s gone on for quite a long time that we’re looking into it”.
So, it’s two separate things, effecting more than just one computer.
Her language also seems to state that she has been working with someone to figure out what’s going on, and she has some answers, but she’s looking for corroboration/second verification before divulging.
She didn’t say something on air before acting on it.
If it’s too hard to listen to a two minute clip, then don’t bother to chime in.
budfox on May 21, 2013 at 11:15 AM
Why?
One news anchor has already been suspended in St. Louis for exposing his targeting.
Rosen has been named as a co-conspirator for committing the crime of journalism.
F&F coverage led to DOJ lurking at FOX news.
More and more of the journalists need to wiseup and publicly come forward.
workingclass artist on May 21, 2013 at 11:15 AM
If it wasn’t for Windows 8 she would just buy a new computer.
meci on May 21, 2013 at 11:17 AM
yes, because we all know having computer issues is very rare and usually a good sign teh government has hacked it
/
nonpartisan on May 21, 2013 at 11:17 AM
Obama’s moral system has the complexity of a 10 year old boy’s. Every time he quotes the Bible or invokes a Christian tenet to support one of his policy initiatives, it’s facepalm time, for how off the mark he is.
The leader sets the tone. Those who work for him know it’s OK to lie, cheat, and steal if it serves the greater good. They follow Obama’s lead. The ends justify the means.
Paul-Cincy on May 21, 2013 at 11:17 AM
Meh. While it’s entirely possible that she got tangled up in reasonably intelligent hacktivism, state-sponsored tools would be way too subtle and insidious to cause your computer to act “fishy.” If your computer is doing something wonky and you suspect you’ve been hacked, you can relax, because governments (aside from China, which loves it some brute force) aren’t doing it.
Of course, if it is hacktivism, where the hacktivists got their marching orders from would be interesting.
Sgt Steve on May 21, 2013 at 11:18 AM
Holy Sh*t! Holy Sh*t! Holy Sh*t!!!
THIS IS HUGE!
Folks, we have entered new territory here. The United States Government has never been as blatant and enemy of its own people as it is today, under Obama.
ericdondero on May 21, 2013 at 11:19 AM
Anyone who tarnishes the shine of the lightbringer must be destroyed.
Why do you want to read him lying some more?
cozmo on May 21, 2013 at 11:20 AM
The Gubmint demanded back-end access to conservative websites…Yep it’s in several of the IRS documents.
The Gubmint got e-mails at AP,FOX News.
Sheeesh!
workingclass artist on May 21, 2013 at 11:20 AM
Did the DoJ tap all those AP phones and monitor the communications of Rosen at FOX or not? And Atkinson has been a thorn in the side of the Obama admin for years now because she refused to let Fast and Furious and the Benghazi stories die. For our sakes I hope she wasn’t bugged by the government, but dismissing the idea out of hand is ridiculous. Wipe your mouth and come up for air once in a while, it’s good for you Mr. Harvard Law grad.
NotCoach on May 21, 2013 at 11:21 AM
first sit down
second take a deep breath
third become rational
this is not huge, this is barely even a blip…this is someone who has some computer issues and combined with paranoia is throwing out some unlikely scenarios
nonpartisan on May 21, 2013 at 11:21 AM
DAMN !! You are stupid.
Jabberwock on May 21, 2013 at 11:21 AM
I’ll bet she’s putting out this marker for the CBS News President as much as anything else.
oldroy on May 21, 2013 at 11:22 AM
the DOJ tapping of AP phones was for legitimate, national security reasons
nonpartisan on May 21, 2013 at 11:23 AM
Maybe nonpartisan is really Mike Ross.
steebo77 on May 21, 2013 at 11:23 AM
Because reporters lose the rights every other citizen has when they become reporters.
Bishop on May 21, 2013 at 11:23 AM
Obama government…modern day Gestapo…
PatriotRider on May 21, 2013 at 11:23 AM
I have to agree with poison ivy league’s sarcasm. “My computer is acting fishy” is hardly an indication of hacking. My Vista PC is a horror, but it’s not because anyone cares what’s on it.
Paul-Cincy on May 21, 2013 at 11:23 AM
Next the lying scumbag will claim to have a journalism degree and teach at Columbia.
cozmo on May 21, 2013 at 11:24 AM
The voice of reason has spoken. What about skeet guns? What can you tell us about those?
NotCoach on May 21, 2013 at 11:24 AM
Twilight Zone & Outer Limits Rocked!
That Outer Limits intro scared the daylights out of me the first time I heard it as a kid.
“It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen.” – Orwell, 1984
workingclass artist on May 21, 2013 at 11:24 AM
This aught to be good.
OK, what were they? And I see you didn’t mention Rosen.
NotCoach on May 21, 2013 at 11:25 AM
heh, I’m actually the exact opposite of Mike Ross
he didn’t go to Harvard Law but ended up practicing
I graduated from Harvard Law but ended up not practicing
he seems to have a genuine interest and passion for law, which I didn’t have
what we have in common is our raw mental horsepower and ability to do well on the LSAT :)
nonpartisan on May 21, 2013 at 11:26 AM
Only lies.
cozmo on May 21, 2013 at 11:26 AM
This story illustrates the insidious counter effect all of these scandals introduces: suspicion about Obama. Now every single conservative who gets a tax audit thinks it’s because of his/her politics, every single reporter who writes a bad word about the administration thinks, Why is my computer acting funny, every single soldier who mans a post in a dangerous spot worries, will they abandon me?
We are witnessing the reverse of hope and change. Even if the administration is able to wiggle their way out of clear culpability in these scandals, they have lost the narrative that they are the good guys.
MaxMBJ on May 21, 2013 at 11:26 AM
Right.
If Bob Woodward had thought the Nixon WH was tapping his phone and bugging his home and office how many TV and radio shows would he have mentioned that on. My guess… Every one that would put a microphone in front of him.
I don’t recall, but in fact he may have done just that.
For going on two weeks now the HA trolls haven’t had any talking points that hold up to more than about 15 seconds of critical analysis.
farsighted on May 21, 2013 at 11:27 AM
NotCoach on May 21, 2013 at 11:25 AM
Scooter and Holder had Top Men working on it, too.
Top Men.
kingsjester on May 21, 2013 at 11:27 AM
Getting your news/information from a Jay Carney press conference is no way to go through life.
Jabberwock on May 21, 2013 at 11:27 AM
If it were someone with a known track record of fabrication I would agree, but Atkinson has tried very hard to report honestly on stories her colleagues will not touch. I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt and assume that it should be looked into at the very least.
NotCoach on May 21, 2013 at 11:28 AM
Team Obama and the Truth Ministry made her the story. And any reporter who does their job.
LetsBfrank on May 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM
Idiot partisan can’t tell BS from horsepower.
Of course, he don’t know sht from Shinola either.
That’s why he lies.
cozmo on May 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM
Quit with the paranoia already, Atkisson. I mean what will you come up with next, that the IRS is targeting conservative groups or something? Pffft, you hack.
Bishop on May 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM
If this is true, obviously, Obama knew nothing about it. But he’ll be adequately outraged and will vow to ensure that it doesn’t happen again.
It will go on the long list of things he’ll ensure won’t happen again. He’s going to be damn busy.
Curtiss on May 21, 2013 at 11:30 AM
Really?
“The DOJ appears to have broken all the rules — political, legal and ethical — of tracking down a government source of a leak. They spread a wide net, subpoenaing two months of telephone records of reporters and editors for the Associated Press.
. Mistake one: No one casts a net this wide in a search for the source of national security leaks, and even more amazingly some judge signed off on it. It is a fishing expedition that also collected phone numbers of people who AP reporters might have contacted for stories that are totally unrelated to this particular government leak. That is unacceptable and raises privacy concerns for reporters and lots of people whose only involvement is an unrelated chat with a reporter.
Mistake two: By targeting the press, the DOJ is using a third party (one that has Constitutional protections) to find the government leaker, or at the very least, intimidate others within government from sharing information with the press. I’m not saying that the press has a right to classified information. However, this is the lazy man’s investigation, one that should have stayed within the walls of the government and within much narrower guidelines.
Mistake three: Generally, law enforcement makes an effort to obtain reporters’ notes or conversations. This requires notifying the news organization — which rightly would respond “none of your business.” This would be a straight-forward request that would be answered with a straight-forward rejection. Then the government would have to decide whether they should wage a court battle.
The best I can tell, the AP learned of the probe into phone records after the fact, and the reason is the government cited an overly broad exemption that allows the government to delay notification if early notification might negatively impact the investigation.
Mistake four: Did Holder sign off on this tactic? If he did, he made a ridiculously bad decision. And if he didn’t, he still bears responsibility because the buck stops at the desk of the guy at the top, i.e., the attorney general.
Mistake five: This is less a matter of Holder and more a matter of the laws put into place after Sept. 11, 2001. The government has far greater access to phone and Internet records than most Americans imagine, and the phone companies are in a odd place — the extent to which they cooperate on records requests from law enforcement or protect customer privacy. As I recall, Congress even immunized the carriers from liability if the attorney general asserted that the companies were assisting a vital government investigation. My guess is the DOJ stretched the definition almost to the breaking point…”
http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/2013/05/with-the-ap-scandal-brewing-will-attorney-general-eric-holder-last-the-summer.html/
workingclass artist on May 21, 2013 at 11:30 AM
No worries.
If you think every nick ever used to post on HA isn’t in a file somewhere in DC – perhaps with additional information on your IP, maybe even your identity – well… sleep well.
Midas on May 21, 2013 at 11:31 AM
Yeah, those were the real deal….didn’t have to resort to gruesome gore and violence to get the stories across, to get into your mind.
And the stories usually left you with something solid to think about.
hawkeye54 on May 21, 2013 at 11:31 AM
I said yesterday everyone in the WH Press Corp should ask Carney if the DOJ is tapping their phones, reading their e-mails or has subpenaed their phone record. Everyone. It should be the only question he has to field. A dozen or so times.
They should ask Carney to ask Obama to look into it for them as they don’t trust DOJ or others to not be doing it. They should note that this will be the only question for Carney until Obama provides reassurance DOJ is not.
Dusty on May 21, 2013 at 11:32 AM
Couldn’t pass the bar exam?
workingclass artist on May 21, 2013 at 11:32 AM
Do not let the trolls hijack the thread.
*plants a huge “DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS” sign at the entrance*
Midas on May 21, 2013 at 11:33 AM
Leave the comedy to bishop. OK?
arnold ziffel on May 21, 2013 at 11:33 AM
nonpartisanlong walk / short pier!
Katfish on May 21, 2013 at 11:33 AM
Yep.
That was when philosophical writers not ideological ruled…imho
workingclass artist on May 21, 2013 at 11:34 AM
Well, Google gave up Rosen’s email, maybe they gave up hers too.
scalleywag on May 21, 2013 at 11:35 AM
Pres. Fishey Sgt. Shultz , Knows Nothing. He has no finger prints.
Just ask the msm hacks.
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 21, 2013 at 11:35 AM
Ah yes, safely stored to be drawn upon if future events find the information can be useful as leverage or evidence against you if needs warrant.
hawkeye54 on May 21, 2013 at 11:36 AM
Yep.
workingclass artist on May 21, 2013 at 11:36 AM
You certainly are mental.
NotCoach on May 21, 2013 at 11:36 AM
Among the many valid reasons Atkinsson would say this beyond what we now know are well founded fears and suspicions…
- Warning off anyone considering doing it.
- Warning off anyone who is doing it.
- Warning other journalists who may have been experiencing similar strange unexpected and unusual problems with their computers.
And so on and so forth.
farsighted on May 21, 2013 at 11:36 AM
Good idea, but I don’t see too many of them having the courage to actually do it. It WOULD be awesome, though, if they did!
scalleywag on May 21, 2013 at 11:37 AM
Prove it !!!
Jabberwock on May 21, 2013 at 11:37 AM
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