Biden: Hey, none of us knew that the Benghazi consulate wanted more security! Update: CBS News: Biden’s got some clean-up to do on Libya; Update: White House: No, really, we had no idea

posted at 10:01 am on October 12, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

This was easily the most disturbing moment of the entire debate — so much so that media outlets like the Washington Post and BuzzFeed immediately published rebuttals to Joe Biden’s claim at the end of the debate.  When Martha Raddatz opened the event by talking about Libya, Paul Ryan hammered the Obama administration for not heeding the calls for better security in an area where everyone knew that al-Qaeda and other radical Islamist terror networks had grown significantly since Obama and NATO decapitated the Qaddafi regime.  Biden’s defense?  Claim ignorance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fexVQ4eYfhY

During the vice presidential debate Thursday, Vice President Joe Biden said the administration “did not know” that personnel working at the American embassy in Libya had requested more security before the deadly attack on Sept. 11.

As Biden was discussing the attack, Martha Raddatz, the debate moderator, cut in.

“And they wanted more security there,” Raddatz said.

“But we weren’t told they wanted more security there,” Biden responded. “We did not know they wanted more security there.”

That assertion runs counter to evidence and testimonies that were presented at aHouse Oversight Committee hearing Wednesday, where the committee released five memos requesting additional security, and witnesses from the State Department confirmed that those requests had been denied.

Glenn Kessler objected as well:

 But this was contradicted by State Department officials just this week, in testimony before a congressional panel and in unclassified cables released by a congressional committee. “All of us at post were in sync that we wanted these resources,” said Eric Nordstrom, the top regional security officer in Libya earlier this year. A Utah national guardsman who led a security team, Lt. Col. Andrew Wood, said: “We felt great frustration that those requests were ignored or just never met.”

Just taking Biden at his word, we’d have to believe that (a) the State Department had no special concern over personnel in eastern Libya, where the weak central government can’t even deploy a police force, (b) the White House was unaware that al-Qaeda had expanded its operations in the region, and (c) no one remembered that the anniversary of 9/11 was approaching.  That’s a shocking level of incompetence to confess on national TV. Small wonder that CNN’s tracking group considered this Joe Biden’s lowest point of the debate.

Furthermore, one has to wonder how the intelligence community will react to Biden’s bus-tossing them during the debate, too:

Vice President Biden blamed intelligence officials for the administration’s changing account of the terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya, during Thursday night’s debate with Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.).

The Obama administration has been under fire for initially linking the attack on the U.S. Consulate to an anti-Islam video made in the U.S. before later acknowledging that that the attack was an act of terrorism, not a protest that turned violent.

Biden said the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice, was repeating what intelligence sources had told her when she blamed the video as a “proximate cause” of the violence in an interview five days after the attack.

“The intelligence community told us that,” Biden said. “As they learned more facts about exactly what happened, they changed their assessment.”

Then why did the White House designate it a terrorist attack within the first 24 hours while insisting publicly that it was a “spontaneous protest” that “spun out of control”?

Update: Via Daniel Halper, CBS News’ Jan Crawford reported that Biden “may have some clean up of his own to do today on Libya”:

Yes, I think this one’s going to stick.

Update II: Good Lord:

Vice President Joseph Biden speaks only for himself and President Barack Obama, and neither man was aware that U.S. officials in Libya had asked the State Department for more security before the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, a top White House official told The Cable.

Biden has come under fire for saying at Thursday night’s debate, “We weren’t told they wanted more security. We did not know they wanted more security there.”

The Cable asked Deputy National Security Advisor for Communications Ben Rhodes whether Biden was speaking for the entire Obama administration, including the State Department, which acknowledged receiving multiple requests for more Libya security in the months before the attacks. Rhodes said that Biden speaks only for himself and the president and neither of them knew about the requests at the time.

So … it’s official that no one at the White House had a clue what was happening in a mess Obama helped create in eastern Libya? Words fail me.


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Good Morning!

switched over to msdnc just now, the gop is exaggerating these so called scandals, none of this effects their lives so they don’t really care about it…just the media…funny how these folks were just trashing gallup on these polling and now are using their polls as gospel that folks are not focusing on these scandals…

really????

someone better say special counsel is needed on ONE of these talk showes today…PLEASE!!!

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 8:09 AM

people want jobs, they don’t care about the gop going after the president…

none of these issues would qualify as a scandal cuz they don’t include sec

boy the lib talking points are in full force…

we’ll hear the same tripe on the talk shows methinks

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 8:11 AM

Good morning, CMS. Looks like Candy-Monster Crowley and Crypt-Keeper Scheiffer have the most interesting line ups today.

Naturally Curly on May 19, 2013 at 8:13 AM

McCain is notably absent today. He must be prepping for his amnesty spiel next week.

dddave on May 19, 2013 at 8:16 AM

Naturally Curly on May 19, 2013 at 8:13 AM

yup

morning NC

softball questions for pfeiffer, gotta defend dear leader, nothing can touch him….

special prosecutor…now

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 8:17 AM

dddave on May 19, 2013 at 8:16 AM

ding

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 8:17 AM

I’m now listening to bulldyke Jennifer Bendery of the huffpost defending the regime and her hero ozero.He can do no wrong according to her on anything, any time, anywhere, talk about disgusting.She thinks all Republicans are at fault about everything,so typical of the DBM and why none of them can be trusted.
She say Benghazi has been going on for months and “we have nothing.”
Unreal, the world they live in.

rodguy911 on May 19, 2013 at 8:19 AM

some idiot just said that because dear leader denounced the irs scandal, he’s ok cuz these issues were ginned up by right wing groups

????

boy the kool-aid is strong this am…

he can’t be blamed for anything goes on in his administration…blame the gop!!!

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 8:21 AM

Wanna be drunk before lunch? Get a bottle of liquor and take a shot this morning every time the words “overplaying their hand” are used in connection with Republicans and any or all of the investigators during the shows, especially during the roundtable segments.

jon1979 on May 19, 2013 at 8:26 AM

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 8:21 AM

lib(e.g. hal)-everyone else has moved on. Why do you keep obsessing? Our dear leader is doing his best.

Maybe there is something terribly wrong with you after all. I’ll send the IRS to find out

renalin on May 19, 2013 at 8:26 AM

Watergate did not effect my life. Should I have not cared? So tired of that line whether it be these scandals or gay mirage.

CW on May 19, 2013 at 8:26 AM

politico defending holder, he’s teflon, nothing can get to him…

renalin on May 19, 2013 at 8:26 AM

ding ding ding

CW on May 19, 2013 at 8:26 AM

we are going to hear it alot this week

the libs are saying there is no need for a special prosecutor,they didn’t say that during valerie plame times
HYPOCRITES

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 8:29 AM

All of a sudden jobs are important to the dems….lol…lol.

CW on May 19, 2013 at 8:32 AM

Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

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aka “Circle the Wagons Sunday”
Predicted theme of the day: “Republican overreach”

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on May 19, 2013 at 8:36 AM

“How do you explain Obama’s half brother getting preferential treatment including back-dating to save him from evasion charges while Tea Party apps stalled?”….a question reserved for the MSM trashcan.

hillsoftx on May 19, 2013 at 8:36 AM

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on May 19, 2013 at 8:36 AM

+1

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 8:37 AM

The O administration is about to play the “race/we give you free stuff card”, in an effort to buy support. I would like to say they have no shame, but that would be a lie.

Tater Salad on May 19, 2013 at 8:38 AM

When he said to get in their faces I guess the IRS listened.

CW on May 19, 2013 at 8:38 AM

Director Blue (Doug Ross) presents the IRS scandal in spreadsheet format:
http://directorblue.blogspot.ca/2013/05/busted-complete-irs-scandal-timeline-in.html

onlineanalyst on May 19, 2013 at 8:38 AM

We need to start getting “in their face”, start by using the L word in reference to Obama. They’ll be PO’ed for a while, however it will begin to stick because it’s true.

Tater Salad on May 19, 2013 at 8:42 AM

don’t forget he was a bush appointee y’all

yepper tater-race card will be brought up as well…

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 8:43 AM

holy cow, the lib talking heads are still pushing this all falls on the low level staffers, the higher ups may have known in 2012 but couldn’t do anything until the report was complete???

boy are they living in a bubble…

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 8:51 AM

don’t forget he was a bush appointee y’all

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 8:43 AM

What difference does it make? (Wish the republicans would throw that back in their faces, but they won’t.)

Naturally Curly on May 19, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Smart Power Reset by Leading from Behind or Forward…or something…

“The Federal Security Service in Russia has revealed the identity of the CIA’s station chief in Moscow in a breach of protocol.

The revelation, made by an FSB spokesman who accused the US agency of crossing a “red line” in its attempt to recruit turncoats among Russian spy agencies, will up the ante in the unfolding spy scandal that emerged earlier this week when Russia detained and expelled an alleged CIA agent working undercover as third secretary at the US embassy in Moscow.

Russian officials, including President Vladimir Putin’s foreign policy advisor, have taken pains to say they believe the scandal will blow over quickly.

Publicly revealing the CIA station chief proves that some inside the Russian government believe otherwise and is likely to prompt an angry response from Washington….

In that statement, the spokesman included the station chief’s name.

The US embassy declined to comment…”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/17/russia-reveal-identity-cia-moscow-chief

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Drip. Drip. Drip.

Higher ups at treasury knew about this in June 2012: Wall Street journal.

bitsy on May 19, 2013 at 8:53 AM

citizens united-that is why this has happened

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cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 8:54 AM

Drip. Drip. Drip.

Higher ups at treasury knew about this in June 2012: Wall Street journal.

bitsy on May 19, 2013 at 8:53 AM

But Bush has been in charge since…..

oh…err…. uh….scratch that….

CW on May 19, 2013 at 8:56 AM

Naturally Curly on May 19, 2013 at 8:52 AM

ditto and keep bringing up special prosecutor

the man who hides behind executive privilege for fast and furious is suppose to investigate the irs….

NO BLOODY WAY

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 8:56 AM

bitsy on May 19, 2013 at 8:53 AM

they didn’t want to comment during an ongoing investigation
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cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 8:56 AM

If this is such GOP overreach, why do we have 2 House Dems calling for Lerner’s head…it would be easy for the conserv talking heads to shove counterpoints up their arse, but they sit in their usual complicit posture…

hillsoftx on May 19, 2013 at 8:57 AM

they didn’t want to comment during an ongoing investigation
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cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 8:56 AM

But they sure were hell-bent to comment on the YouTube video as a cause of Benghazi, no, before anyone could get on scene to investigate? Pathetic.

hillsoftx on May 19, 2013 at 8:59 AM

Unexpectedly…

“Obama adminstration talking points scrubbed jihadists from Cairo as well as Benghazi

In the days after the Benhazi attack, the State Department scurried to cover up its failure to heed warnings of such attacks while the White House scurried to cover up the fact that that attacks were the work of al Qaeda-linked terrorists of the sort President Obama supposedly had largely vanquished. The final Benghazi “talking points” and Susan Rice’s talk show appearances represent the product of this scurrying.

To help advance the narrative that the Benghazi attacks were spontaneous, and thus (a) not to have been anticipated and (b) not linked to al Qaeda, the talking points tied Benghazi to the events of the same day in Cairo. There, unlike in Benghazi, a protest had occurred.

Here is what the final version of the talking points said on this subject:

The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the U.S. diplomatic post and subsequently its annex. There are indications that extremists participated in the violent demonstrations.

Through these two sentences, the administration succeeded in misleading Congress about events in both Benghazi and Cairo.

The statement about Benghazi is simply false. There was no spontaneously inspired protest; rather, there was a pre-planned attack.

In Cairo, as noted, there were protests. But, as Tom Joscelyn argues, the protests were pre-planned, with jihadists playing a prominent role.

Multiple early versions of the CIA-drafted talking points make this clear. For example, the CIA stated:

On 10 September, the Agency notified Embassy Cairo of social media reports calling for a demonstration and encouraging jihadists to break into the Embassy.

The “social media reports” in question included a September 10 tweet from Mohammed al Zawahiri, the younger brother of al Qaeda emir Ayman al Zawahiri. He called on “the sons of the Jihadi Movement to participate tomorrow in the demonstration in front of the American Embassy.” And he included a banner displaying an al Qaeda-style black flag in his tweet.

That banner featured prominently during the 9/11 demonstration in Cairo. Says Joscelyn, protesters waved dozens of them as they chanted “Obama, Obama, we are all Osama.” The message was clear: jihad in general, and al Qaeda in particular, live on without Osama bin Laden.

This was precisely the message the Obama administration wished to suppress. And, for its part, the State Department wanted to suppress the fact that, not only were there warnings about danger to facilities in Libya, but also warnings about planned jihadist activity at the embassy in Cairo on 9/11/12.

Accordingly, the talking points were edited to remove any reference to “jihadists” threatening the U.S. Embassy in Cairo.

As Joscelyn concludes:

The early versions of the Benghazi talking points were right to highlight the threat posed by “jihadists” in Cairo. The thread connecting Cairo to Benghazi is plain to see: Al Qaeda-linked jihadists helped orchestrate both.

The Obama administration’s edits removed them from the story…”

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/05/obama-adminstration-talking-points-scrubbed-jihadists-from-cairo-as-well-as-benghazi.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+powerlineblog%2Flivefeed+%28Power+Line%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 8:59 AM

Hahahahahahahaha, that’s perfect! They could put him in a salad spinner.

probably the Food Network

Good one!

scalleywag on May 19, 2013 at 9:00 AM

Obama has such poor executive skills. So much so you’d figure he was probably never had any experience before. Dummy me.

CW on May 19, 2013 at 9:02 AM

breaking news, cnn poll shows his approval rating at 53%
they are giddy

nothing will touch this president…he showed toughness against the irs scandal…

onto defending the president against the gop on the talk shows now…

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:03 AM

If this is such GOP overreach,

hillsoftx on May 19, 2013 at 8:57 AM

The only overreach is in the Dems’ and a few rinos’ heads.

CW on May 19, 2013 at 9:03 AM

hillsoftx on May 19, 2013 at 8:59 AM

indeed, no talking head will bring up that little tidbit…arrgghhh

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:04 AM

I think Ed or Allah needs to do a post about liberal paranoia. It’s really become out of control, and the root of all these scandals….they’re afraid of the AP reporters, (blame it on the leak), afraid of the oogedy boogedy tea partiers (those wascally racist patriots), and they’re terrified of letting anyone know Al Qaeda still exists (Benghazi). We don’t need scaredy cats in the WH, we need leaders.

scalleywag on May 19, 2013 at 9:04 AM

gop overplayed their hand

Drink! your coffee

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:04 AM

David Brooks wants to remind Americans that he still admires the crisp crease in Il Duce’s pants and that we should all calm down cause we’re addicted to scandal or something…

“In his most recent column, The New York Times’ David Brooks downplayed the scandal over last September’s Benghazi terrorist attack. He declared that the maneuvering from the Obama administration was less a cover-up than an interagency turf war…

The “scandal culture” as he described it has become a means to achieve an edge on political opponents, he said and it has become an addiction that has hindered the political process…”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/18/david-brooks-we-as-a-country-have-become-over-addicted-to-scandal/#ixzz2Tk9WAo2f

*blech*

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Obama has a despicable habit of going after individuals and corporations that he disagrees with by name. During the campaign, he named eight Romney donors, and he personally went after them during campaign speeches. I wonder how many of those on that particular enemies list were targeted by the IRS. Definitely more than one.

bitsy on May 19, 2013 at 9:05 AM

there is a resevoir of good feelings towards this president
-candy

yeah right
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cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:05 AM

candy giving her softball questions towards pfeiffer

and so it begins…

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:07 AM

Dan Pfeiffer lies through his teeth on all the shows today.

Your Sunday morning recap in 11 words.

22044 on May 19, 2013 at 9:07 AM

Remember the first tea party protest after the “stimulus” was passed? Remember the president’s reaction? He got in a helicopter and left the WH. FEAR and PARANOIA. Benghazi attack? FEAR AND PARANOIA. AP leaks? FEAR AND PARANOIA. Tea party? FEAR AND PARANOIA AND DELUSIONAL The president is insane just like Captain Queeg. He brought these scandals on himself and just like everything else, he’ll leave it up to everyone else to cover them up. He’s a coward.

scalleywag on May 19, 2013 at 9:09 AM

dear leader didn’t know until he heard it on the news…you do not interfere during the investigation…..

c’mon

LIE!!

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:09 AM

blame issa, he knew about this earlier too
-pfeiffer

going to turn this against the gop and candy is letting him get away with it natch

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:10 AM

He declared that the maneuvering from the Obama administration was less a cover-up than an interagency turf war…

and who appointed the heads of those agencies? Where does the buck ultimately stop over those heads? Let me guess, 2 questions that were not asked…and firing a guy who in testimony Fri said he was retiring is not accountability.

hillsoftx on May 19, 2013 at 9:10 AM

When he said to get in their faces I guess the IRS listened.

CW on May 19, 2013 at 8:38 AM

Yup, IRS, EPA, and a whole bunch of other agencies. F&F is building the case that there has been coordination from the top.

petefrt on May 19, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Uhoh…

Contrary to the official version of events told by the IRS, the targeting of conservative groups did not begin in 2010, but started at least as early as 2009.

The Coalition For Life, a pro-life group from Cedar Rapids, Iowa was questioned by an IRS agent in Cincinnati named “Ms. Richards” as early as April, 2009. The Coalition stated to the IRS that it was “organized for charitable, religious and educational activities.”

Some of the questions asked about the prayer meetings the group held and what was written on signs that the group held when protesting Planned Parenthood. More than 150 pages of correspondence between the organization and the IRS occurred in 2009, even though the group’s assertion that it was “organized for charitable, religious and educational activities” qualified it as a tax-exempt entity under 501(c)(3) status.

Friday’s testimony in Washington by IRS officials stated that the targeting of conservative groups only began in 2010 after a plethora of Tea Party and Liberty groups applied for 501(c)(4) status.

Despite the fact that 501(c)(3) organizations are permitted to have religious activities and advocate on non-partisan issues, some of the queries sent to Coalition For Life included:

Please explain how all of your activities, including prayer meetings, held outside Planned Parenthood are considered educational as defined under 501(c)(3)?

Organizations exempt under 501(c)(3) may present opinions with scientific or medical facts. Explain in detail the activities at these prayer meetings.

Please provide the percentage of time your group spends on prayer groups as compared with other activities of the organization.

Please explain in detail the signs that are being held up outside Planned Parenthood, and explain how they are considered educational.

The Coalition For Life’s attorney answered the IRS in 2009:

These inquiries indicate some very wrong assumptions about the coalitions and the applicable law. As a result, the coalition has been prejudiced and has suffered harm since it is unable to solicit and receive tax deductible charitable contributions…”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/19/IRS-Targeted-Pro-Life-Group-in-2009-Earlier-Than-IRS-Claims-Targeting-Began

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Pfeiffer, you protest too much.

22044 on May 19, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Dan Pfeiffer’s rushed answers and stubling delivery suggest memorized answers. He is not talking truthfully. He cannot even tell Wallace where Ø was during the Benghazi attack.
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Another. Liar. Speaks.

ExpressoBold on May 19, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Publicly revealing the CIA station chief…is likely to prompt an angry response from Washington….

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 8:53 AM

HA HA HA! That part was a joke, right?

IrishEi on May 19, 2013 at 9:13 AM

hillsoftx on May 19, 2013 at 9:10 AM

+1

was the president aware of the talking points? no he wasn’t aware of the back and forth…

NO one was sure about it when the president went on air

BLAME CIA!!!!

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:13 AM

blame issa, he knew about this earlier too
-pfeiffer

going to turn this against the gop and candy is letting him get away with it natch

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:10 AM

Because since the Clinton era it’s all they have.

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 9:13 AM

pfeiffer is tap dancing and candy is leading him on

unstinkingbelievable…

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:14 AM

The emails provided recently were also provided to Congress during the Brennan confirmation hearings. – Dan Pfeiffer
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Is that what he said? Really? Did anybody else get that?

ExpressoBold on May 19, 2013 at 9:15 AM

Publicly revealing the CIA station chief…is likely to prompt an angry response from Washington….

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 8:53 AM

HA HA HA! That part was a joke, right?

IrishEi on May 19, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Well it was a British media report…I suppose we could amend that to prompt an impotent response from Washington

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 9:16 AM

What doctored email by “a Republican?” What is he talking about?

ExpressoBold on May 19, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Posted this at Althouse, but considered the media spin about how it doesn’t affect regular Americans so we don’t care,… it seems better placed here.

Mrs. Althouse..

I’m not an attorney, never been to college, just a one time Airman, retired grocer on a disability. I just want to share this..

at a family gathering yesterday, small, democrats and republicans, all low end working class.. the sense of the discussion was depressed.. all of us, all in and around the same ages.. all were stunned to our socks by the IRS admission of targeting individuals for their political beliefs.

A sinking feeling to the pit of my stomach best describes it. having been in the last years of the cold war.. standing a post against the Soviets, I have to wonder, is this even my country anymore?

Where political persecution is not only happening, but condoned by some?

The subject became very personal.. I’ve had a running fight with workers comp.. and now, medicare,.. how can I deal with this, and not wonder in the back of my mind, is there a big red R stamped on my files?

and the same thing occurred to everyone else there, even the democrats were sick about it, we’re family, politics or not.. and they wondered.. how would I feel were it me the government didn’t like? I’m not saying that I’m being targeted..

Just that.. now..

how will that fear, doubt ever go away?

Whatever limited trust there was is gone.. murdered by Miller’s lame excuses.. by the happy smirks of online progressives all so happy about it. HOW will we ever trust that we won’t be targeted by some IRS.. Obamacare flunky who compares voter registration with your medical files?

with your activities, group affiliations? We can never trust it won’t happen because it just did..

I’m very dependent on medical care right now, very much in pain, and workers comp is refusing surgery because one doctor said no.. then refusing twice more a second opinion.. how can I ever be sure it’s not because I’m a registered commenter at Hotair?.. or a veteran?.. a Christian with strong pro-life views, and not kept secret about it online..

Maybe pain, government indifference and an unrelated scandal create suspicion too easily.. but it’s there, and real.

This scandal has legs..

Because it isn’t just me, but nearly everyone like me who’s dependent on government services now wondering if the services aren’t a weapon beat us into silence. My Michigan cousin, she says the same,.. democrat aunt.. her too.. they need not go after all of us, just create the fear,.. you say what we do not like..

you’ll suffer for it… and with a medical condition, it is suffer..

The unanimity of opinion is striking.. that’s why this scandal will do what the MSM has feared most, turn the whole of public opinion against Obama..

I fear no man.. but a fractured spine without medication isn’t a man, and that they’ve done to me already once..

we have to win this, purge this unAmerican rot now, before we become used to being afraid..

————-

Watergate was something that happened when I was 12,..

this, affects my freedom to speak my mind, as it does all of our abilities to speak freely..

these media hacks should resign in disgrace.

mark81150 on May 19, 2013 at 9:17 AM

and now candy will begin her interrupting rand paul when he is responding to her questions…

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:20 AM

“Camelot Is Burning

The fact remains that this country is at a pivotal point. What we do or don’t do right now will impact generations to come. Camelot is burning. Will the water-carrying media try to douse the flames? Probably.

Eric Bolling of The Five said it well the other night: “Can we simply have the truth?” A simple question. What may extinguish the flames is the truth. You know it as well as I do…”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/18/Camelot-Is-Burning

(Shamelot is what I’d call it…)

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 9:21 AM

mark81150 on May 19, 2013 at 9:17 AM

ONe of our problems is, the MSM never adequately vetted Obama. And, if you attempt to shed light on his background, you are labelled a RAACIIST! I don’t care. My take.

kingsjester on May 19, 2013 at 9:21 AM

What doctored email by “a Republican?” What is he talking about?

ExpressoBold on May 19, 2013 at 9:16 AM

That is the demoratic agitprop meme of the week being pushed allover social media.

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 9:22 AM

are you going to over reach here, why are you bashing hillary
-candy

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Is it just me or are our threads of late pretty much troll free with a few exceptions? Hmmm Strange. I wonder why.

CW on May 19, 2013 at 9:24 AM

candy going with the irs was overwhelmed and this wasn’t political, don’t you agree sen paul?

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Bring on the dancing horses. I’m going to skip it all and have a peaceful Sunday.

Besides, I don’t want to hear how we are all a bunch of racists and the president is about to propose a huge new stimulus because he cares about jobs. Really.

Philly on May 19, 2013 at 9:25 AM

CW on May 19, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Shock and depression.

kingsjester on May 19, 2013 at 9:26 AM

What doctored email by “a Republican?” What is he talking about?

ExpressoBold on May 19, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Something about the House GOP listing a summary of the emails they received, and the idiot left screaming FAKE FAKE.. they chopped and doctored it… see see..

it was a summary, the same one the WH gave them, there was no “fake”..

mark81150 on May 19, 2013 at 9:27 AM

are you going to over reach here, why are you bashing hillary
-candy

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Affirmative Action Incongruity…It’s what’s for Breakfast!

In the New Fascist Progressivism…Minority civil servants cannot be fired….ever!

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 9:31 AM

NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox

Isn’t it amazing that all five of these independent networks thought the same person, Senior Advisor to the President for Strategy and Communications Dan Pfeiffer, was the best person to help inform the public on the status of the past week’s news.

It’s almost Orwellian in it irony.

Dusty on May 19, 2013 at 9:31 AM

The “full Ginsburg” refers to an appearance by one person on all five major Sunday-morning interview shows on the same day: This Week on ABC, Face the Nation on CBS, Meet the Press on NBC, State of the Union on CNN and Fox News Sunday.

The term is named for William Ginsburg, Monica Lewinsky’s lawyer during the Clinton scandal, who was the first person to accomplish this feat, on February 1, 1998.

http://politicaldictionary.com/words/full-ginsburg/

davidk on May 19, 2013 at 9:33 AM

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 9:31 AM

yup

Dusty on May 19, 2013 at 9:31 AM

indeed

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:34 AM

kingsjester on May 19, 2013 at 9:21 AM

EXCELLENT KJ

forwarding to my parents…

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:34 AM

It’s almost Orwellian in it irony.

Dusty on May 19, 2013 at 9:31 AM

fify

“It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words.” – Orwell 1984

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM

don’t over reach gop because dear leader is polling at 53%
-talking head

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM

the polls don’t blame the president on these scandals, he’s got a resovior of good will towards him

he expressed outrage so its all good, he kept his focus on jobs
-donna brazille

seriously???

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:37 AM

mark81150 on May 19, 2013 at 9:17 AM

ONe of our problems is, the MSM never adequately vetted Obama. And, if you attempt to shed light on his background, you are labelled a RAACIIST! I don’t care. My take.

kingsjester on May 19, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Because…Ignorance is Strength.

“Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.” – Orwell. 1984

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 9:38 AM

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:34 AM

Thank you, ma’am!

I posted that today because a lot of folks do not know the Manchurian President’s background, thanks to the MSM’s lack of vetting.

kingsjester on May 19, 2013 at 9:38 AM

don’t over reach gop because dear leader is polling at 53%
-talking head

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM

I recall HW Bush polling at near 90% in 91,.. I noticed the media never asked Democrats to sit down and shut up..

mark81150 on May 19, 2013 at 9:41 AM

people want jobs, they don’t care about the gop going after the president…

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 8:11 AM

SanFranNan can spin these “jobs should be the issue, not these scandals” talking points of hers from now until she crashes while on her side job as a test pilot at a broom factory, and it is not going to mean diddly! Because right now, people are angry, and they want answers and they want them yesterday!

pilamaye on May 19, 2013 at 9:41 AM

kingsjester on May 19, 2013 at 9:38 AM

you’re not kidding…

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:41 AM

I’ll watch the first 30 minutes of This Week, then switching to ESPN3 to watch Newcastle vs. Arsenal.

22044 on May 19, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Resource: http://www.nachumlist.com/

davidk on May 19, 2013 at 9:46 AM

people want jobs, they don’t care about the gop going after the president…

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 8:11 AM

SanFranNan can spin these “jobs should be the issue, not these scandals” talking points of hers from now until she crashes while on her side job as a test pilot at a broom factory, and it is not going to mean diddly! Because right now, people are angry, and they want answers and they want them yesterday!

pilamaye on May 19, 2013 at 9:41 AM

“You are a slow learner, Winston.”
“How can I help it? How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four.”
“Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.” – Orwell 1984

The spin at Christian Science Monitor (with a pic of Michelle Bachmann included)

Headline : Now playing in a political theater near you: The IRS scandal meets Obamacare.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2013/0518/IRS-scandal-becomes-Republican-battering-ram-against-Obamacare-video

So ya see folks…This KGB IRS concern trolling is really part of a craaaazy republican plot to takedown Obamacare…

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 9:48 AM

mark81150 on May 19, 2013 at 9:41 AM

and the continual bashing of W, EVERYTHING was his fault

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:48 AM

pilamaye on May 19, 2013 at 9:41 AM

yepper

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:49 AM

Rove to Kucinich: “Stop blaming Bush! Move on!”
.
What a chihuahua Kucinich is!

ExpressoBold on May 19, 2013 at 9:50 AM

the polls don’t blame the president on these scandals, he’s got a resovior of good will towards him

he expressed outrage so its all good, he kept his focus on jobs
-donna brazille

seriously???

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:37 AM

“What can you do, thought Winston, against the lunatic who is more intelligent than yourself, who gives your arguments a fair hearing and then simply persists in his lunacy?” – Orwell, 1984

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 9:51 AM

kingsjester on May 19, 2013 at 9:38 AM

I’d seen this before.. but it really puts his nasty sleasy 2012 campaign in focus, his ginning up occupy, his SEIU bussed to CEO’s lawns events in 09.. he is a walking talking hate machine, it’s all he’s got. and why what he considers compromise is bend over and take it.

What does a Community Organizer do? I’m glad you asked.

Per Byron York in an article found at nationalreview.com:

Community organizing is most identified with the left-wing Chicago activist Saul Alinsky (1909-72), who pretty much defined the profession. In his classic book, Rules for Radicals, Alinsky wrote that a successful organizer should be “an abrasive agent to rub raw the resentments of the people of the community; to fan latent hostilities of many of the people to the point of overt expressions.” Once such hostilities were “whipped up to a fighting pitch,” Alinsky continued, the organizer steered his group toward confrontation, in the form of picketing, demonstrating, and general hell-raising.

any wonder why MSNBC uses Sharpton now?.. why so many callers in to AM radio are hate rage filled inner city uninformed democrats convinced we only oppose Obama because he’s black?

It’s the left’s mother’s milk.. HATE the oppressor.. except the “oppressor” seems to always be the other party which oppresses them from being elected by running a rival campaign.

mark81150 on May 19, 2013 at 9:52 AM

i really don’t like anna navarro, the ‘gop’ talking head on cnn…too squishy for me…

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:53 AM

All of a sudden jobs are important to the dems….lol…lol.

CW on May 19, 2013 at 8:32 AM

Someone has to represent what majority of Americans truly care about you know. Last I heard, Benghazi trials do not feed the kids.

HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 9:53 AM

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 9:51 AM

good quote

cmsinaz on May 19, 2013 at 9:53 AM

The irony escapes you completely..

Obama?

giving a DAMN about jobs?

really?

I’ll let the two unemployed can’t find sis in laws under my roof you said Obama cares..

nope…

not feeling the love there..

mark81150 on May 19, 2013 at 9:58 AM

mark81150 on May 19, 2013 at 9:17 AM

ONe of our problems is, the MSM never adequately vetted Obama. And, if you attempt to shed light on his background, you are labelled a RAACIIST! I don’t care. My take.

kingsjester on May 19, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Most Americans aren’t stupid. They know a racist when they see one. You can play victimhood all you want but the apple has definitely not fallen far from the tree.. Your actions support their theory.

HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 9:59 AM

So ya see folks…This KGB IRS concern trolling is really part of a craaaazy republican plot to takedown Obamacare…

workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 9:48 AM

I wish it were so. But methinks the GOPe will hyperventilate and then capitulate.

davidk on May 19, 2013 at 9:59 AM

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