Cutter: Polls show that this race is “roughly the same” despite that awful debate

posted at 12:41 pm on October 11, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Last night, President Obama tried to reassure his semi-panicked Democratic fellows that, despite his ghastly debate performance, “the fundamentals of this race haven’t changed” — which, actually, is kind of weirdly true. When I think “fundamentals,” I think unemployment, economic growth, federal budget, etcetera, all of which have remained mind-numbingly horrible during the president’s tenure. What did change after the debate, however, was the Obama campaign’s ability to gloss over and relentlessly spin those fundamentals. I thought that when Barack Obama’s populist, soak-the-rich, big-government messaging finally met Mitt Romney’s free-enterprise message face-to-face, without any outside noise, the content of Obama’s platform looked downright feeble.

According to subsequent polls, voters seemed to be thinking along those lines, too — not that the Obama campaign would ever admit to that.

Cutter: I think that, if you look at the recent polls, the race is roughly the same as where it was before the debate. I think that Romney made modest gains, there’s no doubt about that. But the race is essentially the same as it was… [crosstalk]

Scarborough: Stephanie, there is a collective roar from the far right and the far left on the set… That’s nice spinning, but I mean, the race is tight. It’s very tight…

Cutter: But Joe, look at what’s been happening in Ohio, there’s been very little movement. In Florida, very little movement. Virginia, there’s been modest movement. But the race is essentially the same as where it was, if not before the debate, then before the conventions. And what I was trying to say, is that this election — we’ve always said, this election is going to come down to the wire.

It is true that the Obama camp has maintained that it’s going to be a very close election no matter what (close races make for far better fundraising opportunities than blowouts, don’t you know), but as the aghast MSNBC panel expressed in the clip, there’s really no doubt that this is not quite the same race as it was. Romney has picked up pretty serious gains nationally, among independents, across battleground states, and in his favorability ratings — and there definitely has been significant movement across Ohio, Florida, and Virginia. President Obama’s surefire electoral advantage is no more, and Romney has risen to new heights in the national polls; but hey, maybe Joe Biden can turn this ship around, yeah?


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PolarCoug on October 11, 2012 at 12:43 PM

She’s on whatever Pelosi, Wasserman-Schmutz, Carney and some females on HA are on (though the latter just occasionally, thank God).

No, not you Erika. You’re doing a fine job. Love your brief write-ups.

Schadenfreude on October 11, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Paging Baghdad Bob!

Paging Baghdad Bob!

aunursa on October 11, 2012 at 12:44 PM

She’s roughly an idiot

cmsinaz on October 11, 2012 at 12:44 PM

But Romney’s the liar…

MeatHeadinCA on October 11, 2012 at 12:44 PM

That’s not spin, that’s propeller!

itsnotaboutme on October 11, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Both DWS and Cutter back on the air the same day. Ugh !

Jabberwock on October 11, 2012 at 12:46 PM

It’s the new talking point, I noticed Chuck Toad and others at MSNBC using the exact phrase this morning. Especially with their D+11 sample in their Ohio poll.

Tater Salad on October 11, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Which one is the more laughable liar, Cutter or DWS?

itsnotaboutme on October 11, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Stephanie Cutter is a proven liar. Why do we waste thread space here on ANYTHING she says?

karenhasfreedom on October 11, 2012 at 12:46 PM

I swear these people must sit around playing a game of “Who can come up with the most outrageous lie and the media won’t call us on it?”

Stephanie’s just been on a winning roll lately.

Mitoch55 on October 11, 2012 at 12:47 PM

I bet Bill Clinton is thinking, “she’s got a pretty mouth”.

Tater Salad on October 11, 2012 at 12:47 PM

How does this skank retain any credibility? I mean, it boggles the mind.

search4truth on October 11, 2012 at 12:47 PM

How much does hiring an idiot cost the Obama Campaign? They are getting their moneys worth out of her.

portlandon on October 11, 2012 at 12:47 PM

It seems that on MSNBC what they do most lately is to try and reassure each other that Obama is still winning and that Romney is somehow running a horrible campaign.
Anytime one of them says that Romney is still behind they immediately all start nodding in agreement because it comforts them.
They are nervously looking for signs of hope.

NeoKong on October 11, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Tater Salad (LOL) beat me to it. This must be the talking point as there was an article on here yesterday where Obama essentially said the same thing.

Apparently they believe that if you don’t admit something then it’s not true. Maybe that’s why they lied about Libya?

MobileVideoEngineer on October 11, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Baghdad Bobbette.

Speakup on October 11, 2012 at 12:49 PM

What’s the point of having democrat or republican flaks on? You know what they will say ahead of time. It simply serves no purpose at all.

lorien1973 on October 11, 2012 at 12:50 PM

So Stephanie Cutter is Gumby/Greg?

midgeorgian on October 11, 2012 at 12:50 PM

all we need today is that Jen Psaki to show up on air and the LIAR camp will be out in force! And let’s not forget Jay Carney…he should be coming up soon.

CoffeeLover on October 11, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Which one is the more laughable liar, Cutter or DWS?

itsnotaboutme on October 11, 2012 at 12:46 PM

It’s a tie :)….Their talking points and spin make them undistinguishable from each other anyways :)

jimver on October 11, 2012 at 12:50 PM

President 10-289, to the bitter end.

$

MichaelGabriel on October 11, 2012 at 12:51 PM

REMAIN CALM, ALL IS WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!

midgeorgian on October 11, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Stephanie is looking a little rough in that video. Drinking yourself to sleep, Steph?

JPeterman on October 11, 2012 at 12:52 PM

The intellectually bereft Obamabots are in for one hell of a surprise on November 6th and I can’t wait to see them all squealing like pigs when their boyfriend loses. I am so tired of all the spin. I want off this ride…

FirstBoot on October 11, 2012 at 12:53 PM

As if we didn’t know, MSNBC has lost all transparency and become an extension of the Obama campaign. I noticed all using the exact phrase, word for word, as Stephanie (who got it from Axelrod), “essentially back to where we started before the conventions”.

Tater Salad on October 11, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Benghazi Betty

Mitsouko on October 11, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Cutter and her ilk consider lying a great virtue.

rplat on October 11, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Stephanie Cutter, Jay Carney, Robert Gibbs, David Plouffe, Jim Messina…

Has anyone here ever seen a bigger collection of destructive misfits? Good grief.

Common Sense Floridian on October 11, 2012 at 12:56 PM

These people are going to have their clocks cleaned in November. They have no idea what’s coming.

But that’s only the beginning of the war, and I hope Romney understands this.

rrpjr on October 11, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Joe Biden can turn this ship around, yeah?

I’m on the case! We will stop those dastardly Republicans from throwing out our Democrat congress! We will get Al Gore in the White House! And we will finally get banks to buy those MBSs I have heard so much about! No, I don’t know what an MBS is… Mega Bacon Sandwich I suppose?
– Joe Biden

Gatsu on October 11, 2012 at 12:57 PM

I really think that if they keep this up they will permanently damage their spin cycles…

Gatsu on October 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Speaking of Polls……………………….

Mitt Romney pulls ahead of Barack Obama 47 to 44 % in Reuters/IPSOS tracking poll – @Reuters

1 hour ago from http://www.reuters.com by editor
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Romney extends lead over Obama in presidential race: Reuters/Ipsos poll
WASHINGTON | Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:54am EDT
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(Reuters) – Republican challenger Mitt Romney has extended his lead over President Barack Obama to 3 percentage points, according to a Reuters/Ipsos tracking poll released on Thursday, ahead of a high-stakes debate between the two candidates’ running mates.

Romney now leads the Democrat by 47 percent to 44 percent among likely voters in the online poll, with less than a month before the November 6 election. The Reuters/Ipsos tracking poll released on Wednesday had shown Romney with a one-point lead over Obama, his first lead in the survey in more than a month.

Romney has been enjoying one of his best runs of the campaign after handily winning the first presidential debate last week, partially due to Obama’s passive performance in that contest.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/11/us-usa-campaign-poll-thu-idUSBRE89A12U20121011
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Reuters Polls
Ipsos/Reuters Daily Election Tracking:

http://www.ipsos-na.com/news-polls/reuters-polls/

canopfor on October 11, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Stephanie Cutter is a proven liar. Why do we waste thread space here on ANYTHING she says?

karenhasfreedom on October 11, 2012 at 12:46 PM

…that Stephanie Rutter is a lying Runt!

KOOLAID2 on October 11, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Heh, to recap:

- Michelle Obama “My husband did great in the debate, and he’s cool for the land” — in so many words

- Wasserman-Schmutz, total lying meltdown on Piers Morgan, who schooled her on “it’s un-American to cover up”, heh.

- Pelosi, delusional on women and etc.

- Cutter, Second in Cief Liar, only to Axelturd (he has more decency than she does, actually)

- Talking heads from the left in total meltdown, excep Kearstin Powers, who’s saving herself

- Obama himself “I was just polite in the debate”

- trolls around here have nothing, nada, are lost since the debate.

The debate:

Obama came as himself, an empty teenage vessel.

Romney came as himself, a leader, a grown up man, a clean one too…

The folks, 70,000 million of them saw what they saw.

The media panicked and realized “holy sh*t, we better get off this ship, we know we’re rats but we want to live…”

To watch it is incredibly schadenfreudig.

Don’t celebrate. Cornered snakes are incredibly dangerous.

JPeterman, she does look desperate. It’s all in front of our eyes.

Schadenfreude on October 11, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Cutter,like the rest of Team Hopey,are living in a Bubble,
along with elements of the DNC/MSM Proxy!!

canopfor on October 11, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Denials continue, in all forms.

Joe Mama on October 11, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Obama: Reasons To Vote For Me!

M2RB: “We Are The World”

I’d love your additions…

Resist We Much on October 11, 2012 at 1:02 PM

…but hey, maybe Joe Biden can turn this ship around, yeah?

You mean, “Joe Biden can turn that sheep around”, right? Slo’ Joe is no slacker when it comes to barnyard animals.

Archivarix on October 11, 2012 at 1:02 PM

D+20, Maximum Warp

faraway on October 11, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Just another lefty hag…..I finally figured out why the lefty woman always look all worn and washed out…..all that lying they have to do just sucks the life out of them…….someone save Kirsten Powers……

crosshugger on October 11, 2012 at 1:03 PM

That’s right Dem’s. If you find yourself a little too busy on November 6th, don’t worry about making it to the polls. ‘O’ has everything under control.

Carnac on October 11, 2012 at 1:04 PM

The Dooms must be taking diluted hallucinogens cuz it’s taking longer for their delusions to surface.

stukinIL4now on October 11, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Cutter is looking a little pale these days.

ctmom on October 11, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Roughly the same…just that skosh of space between winning and losing!

lol.

PattyJ on October 11, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Ah, Steffi Cutter – flat on her back for Clinton, Teddy K, John Kerry, and now Obama.

She’s a one trick pony but she turns that trick with pride.

Adjoran on October 11, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Which one is the more laughable liar, Cutter or DWS?

itsnotaboutme on October 11, 2012 at 12:46 PM

DWS because, well, look at her.

eyedoc on October 11, 2012 at 1:08 PM

I have a theory on who Cutter really is.

Bmore on October 11, 2012 at 1:09 PM

The folks, 70,000 million of them saw what they saw.

Thats a lot of people.

BobMbx on October 11, 2012 at 1:10 PM

…but hey, maybe Joe Biden can turn this ship around, yeah?

Ouch! I’m thinkin’ Costa Concordia.

SailorMark on October 11, 2012 at 1:10 PM

RCP – just put Michigan into the toss up column.

MontanaMmmm on October 11, 2012 at 1:11 PM

When I saw the doctor this morning, she told me I have low blood pressure. I immediately jumped to the conclusion that I must have high blood pressure.

stout77 on October 11, 2012 at 1:12 PM

UNINSTALLING OBAMA….. █████████████▒▒▒▒▒▒ 85% complete

PolarCoug on October 11, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Nicely done. ; )

Bmore on October 11, 2012 at 1:12 PM

I bet Bill Clinton is thinking, “she’s got a pretty mouth”.

Tater Salad on October 11, 2012 at 12:47 PM

If we have to, we can resort to the doomsday weapon:

All references to Bill Clinton must be in the form of “Clenis”

BobMbx on October 11, 2012 at 1:13 PM

In other news 2 plus 2 equals 5.

50sGuy on October 11, 2012 at 1:13 PM

I was told that Romney had already lost the election.

You mean the media lied? Gosh.

Moesart on October 11, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Stephanie Cutter, Jay Carney, Robert Gibbs, David Plouffe, Jim Messina…

Has anyone here ever seen a bigger collection of destructive misfits? Good grief.

Common Sense Floridian on October 11, 2012 at 12:56 PM

You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

22044 on October 11, 2012 at 1:22 PM

Rasmussen now shows Obama back up by 1 again.

What the heck’s going on??

tkyang99 on October 11, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Evacuate? In our moment of triumph?

DarthBrooks on October 11, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Does Cutter sit down on a stool while she speaks? If I were spinning that fast, I’d fall over.

GarandFan on October 11, 2012 at 1:32 PM

I have a theory on who Cutter really is.

Bmore on October 11, 2012 at 1:09 PM

A Fembot?

A were-beet?

Okay, okay, I give: According to your theory, who is she?

Mary in LA on October 11, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Ass-Clowns

Strike Hornet on October 11, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Jimmy Carter assembled a group of fools and subversives as his surrogates and cabinet members which I thought could never be surpassed. Obama has managed to assemble an even larger group of subversive and dangerous liars.
This woman is particularly odious. I really look forward to the day she tucks her tail between her legs and returns to whatever rathole she came out of.

maryo on October 11, 2012 at 1:35 PM

Stephanie is looking a little rough in that video. Drinking yourself to sleep, Steph?

JPeterman on October 11, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Worse, combination of drinking and sleeping pills :) (evil grin :).

jimver on October 11, 2012 at 1:35 PM

I’m sure clown Joe bought that line.

Hummer53 on October 11, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Obama: Reasons To Vote For Me!

M2RB: “We Are The World”

I’d love your additions…

Resist We Much on October 11, 2012 at 1:02 PM

eye candy.

jimver on October 11, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Heh, RWM

You’re fired” — Big Bird

Schadenfreude on October 11, 2012 at 1:38 PM

I bet Bill Clinton is thinking, “she’s got a pretty mouth”.

Tater Salad on October 11, 2012 at 12:47 PM

If we have to, we can resort to the doomsday weapon:

All references to Bill Clinton must be in the form of “Clenis”

BobMbx on October 11, 2012 at 1:13 PM

OMG, people, you think soo….French :)

jimver on October 11, 2012 at 1:39 PM

When DWS is not doing this job she is working at her second job…that of being the ancient Greek Gorgon the Medusa.

logicman_1998 on October 11, 2012 at 1:44 PM

I am tired of looking at her, too, and she does not get better, she annoys me almost as much as debbie blbbrmth.

Obama has lost any lead that he ever thought he had, or pretended he had. Obama starts with CA electoral votes in the bank, we don’t have that on our side, and even CA is erroding. When that happens, people don’t come out.

And if it is eroding in CA, think of the other states with high unemployment…Ohio…Michigan.

Fleuries on October 11, 2012 at 1:49 PM

When DWS is not doing this job she is working at her second job…that of being the ancient Greek Gorgon the Medusa.

logicman_1998 on October 11, 2012 at 1:44 PM

Arguably, She looks more like the Big Bird than the Medusa :)..

jimver on October 11, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Mary in LA on October 11, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Hint, made of clay. ; )

Bmore on October 11, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Was able to find a story on the 62-37 D/R split on returned ballots for absentees in Ohio but no details. Its from NBC, and even it acknowledges that Romney voters vs Obama voters on election day are saying a 10 pt Romney lead – 52/42. But I assume the absentee returns are due to the same splits on all the other bad polls.

Obama is losing Ohio.

Zomcon JEM on October 11, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Hint, made of clay. ; )

Bmore on October 11, 2012 at 2:01 PM

You don’t mean… our dear friend Gum’n’Poke???

Whoa!

O_O

Mary in LA on October 11, 2012 at 2:04 PM

Gallups already giving Obuma a boost in their polls under pressure, not that it was needed, from the Obuma campaign. These Obuma Marxists/Islamists are the most evil bunch of crooks, cheaters, and liars ever in my lifetime.

aposematic on October 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM

“awful debate”=Obama unable to lie (and remain unchallenged on his lies) or defend his indefensible record ; )

DebraChicago on October 11, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Rasmussen now shows Obama back up by 1 again.

What the heck’s going on??

tkyang99 on October 11, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Folks, Rasmussen has been showing Obama and Romney back and forth in the lead for the last three month within 1-3 points of each others nothing new here. By the way, I have seen on another site the details of the Rasmussen polls in the last few weeks and I calculated D+ 5 to D +8 in his sampling in order to get the results that he is showing…

mnjg on October 11, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Gallups already giving Obuma a boost in their polls under pressure, not that it was needed, from the Obuma campaign. These Obuma Marxists/Islamists are the most evil bunch of crooks, cheaters, and liars ever in my lifetime.

aposematic on October 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Absolutely, in fact the Huffington Post had an article yesterday or the day before stating that Gallup accepted their pressure to increase minorities in their polls sampling…

mnjg on October 11, 2012 at 2:31 PM

This gal makes Debbie Whawha Dipshultz look like a brain surgeon. Where do the Democrites get these people?

LOOK at Ohio Ms. Cutter–
Ocommie stained OSU- once again- with another visit yesterday- he has visited OHIO over 25 times this election cycle ! Barky says, Who, me ? worried ?
Sure……

Hello…. McFly – Their internals are telling them a different story and Hopey needs to be in Ohio every other day. Thats their desparation.

By the way- Who’s in charge back in DC ?

FlaMurph on October 11, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Was able to find a story on the 62-37 D/R split on returned ballots for absentees in Ohio but no details. Its from NBC, and even it acknowledges that Romney voters vs Obama voters on election day are saying a 10 pt Romney lead – 52/42. But I assume the absentee returns are due to the same splits on all the other bad polls.

Obama is losing Ohio.

Zomcon JEM on October 11, 2012 at 2:02 PM

This guy from Free Republic is now a specialist in the Ohio Absentee ballots. According to the latest numbers from George Mason Univeristy Early Voting Project the democrats absentees ballots in 2012 have dropped off by 224,450 ballots compared to 2008 and the Republicans absentee ballots have droppped off by 49,270 in 2012 compared to 2008… This is a net loss for the democrats in absentee ballots only by 175,280 ballots… Obama won Ohio in 2008 by 250,000 votes… Those are real votes in the hundreds of thousands and not just very unreliable and very biased pollsof samples made of few hundreds voters… The way it is going in Ohio in the real voting Obama is certain to lose this state…

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2943298/posts

mnjg on October 11, 2012 at 2:40 PM

I can’t wait to see her try to spin her way out of this:

Stephanie Cutter: Benghazi Only an Issue ‘Because of Romney & Ryan’

She is getting slammed, and I mean slammed, about this on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/search?q=%40StefCutter&src=typd

Flora Duh on October 11, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Clueless in Chicago

Schadenfreude on October 11, 2012 at 3:11 PM

“the fundamentals of this race haven’t changed”

Kind of reminds me of McCain’s line in 2008 about the economy. That didn’t come back to haunt him.

/

BuckeyeSam on October 11, 2012 at 3:11 PM

but hey, maybe Joe Biden can turn this ship around, yeah?

Am I the only one thinking of the crashed Cruise liner Costa Concordia near Italy?

You’re letting him go off course, and you expect it to end well?

gekkobear on October 11, 2012 at 3:29 PM

She is the ‘Baghdad Bob” of this Hussain administration.

Sticky Wicket on October 11, 2012 at 8:15 PM