Tapper to WH on Benghazi: So, wouldn’t it be President Obama who shot first and aimed later?

posted at 5:21 pm on October 10, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

If you’ll recall, in the immediate wake of the breaking news of the riots in Cairo and Benghazi in September, the biggest question on the mainstream media’s collective mind was not anything in the vein of, Is any of this related to terrorism and has the Obama administration adequately protected our security interests?, but rather, Did Mitt Romney get ahead of himself by issuing a statement that criticized the Obama administration’s handling of the situation?

President Obama ran with the media’s spin, positing on 60 Minutes that America doesn’t need a president who would “shoot first and ask questions later,” but given the ensuing fallout (from this-wasn’t-terrorism to this-was-clearly-terrorism, and what with sending out Ambassador Rice to paint a false narrative to the American people and deriding a “disgusting, reprehensible” internet video in front of the United Nations, etcetera)… wasn’t it maybe President Obama and his administration who actually jumped the gun on this whole thing? ABC reporter Jack Tapper put the question to White House press secretary Jay Carney this afternoon:

TAPPER: President Obama, shortly after the attack told “60 Minutes” that regarding Mitt Romney’s response to the attacks, specifically in Egypt, the president said that Romney has a tendency to “shoot first and aim later.” Given the fact that so much was made out of the video that apparently had absolutely nothing to do with the attack in Benghazi, that there wasn’t even a protest outside the Benghazi post, didn’t President Obama shoot first and aim later? …

CARNEY: Right. I’m not disputing that there was a protest, but what we said at the time was that the intelligence community assessed that the attack began spontaneously following protests earlier that day at our embassy in Cairo, ok? Again, this is a moving picture, and people who, on the night of an attack, or the day after, claim they know all the facts without making clear that what we know is based on preliminary information aren’t being straight. In some cases trying to politicize a situation that should not be politicized.

Carney went on, implying that it was wrong for Mitt Romney to seize on the events in the Middle East without knowing all of the facts, but Tapper’s point was made. The term “hoisted with your own petard” springs to mind.

Fox News’ Ed Henry also got in a good exchange with Carney, in which Carney insisted, “I never said, I never said we don’t know if it’s terrorism.”

But, as BuzzFeed points out… that’s not exactly what the White House was saying in the immediate aftermath of the attack, was it? On September 14th, Carney told the press pool: “We don’t have and do not have concrete evidence to suggest this was not in reaction to the film.” I’m pretty sure this is what “mincing words” looks like:


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So, wouldn’t it be President Obama who shot first and aimed later?

…and Mooch has been complaining!

KOOLAID2 on October 10, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Carney’s a moron…just like his boss

RedInMD on October 10, 2012 at 5:25 PM

OMG, why is Carney holding a presser? I thought the administration was in bunker mode

gatorboy on October 10, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Big Bird!

Or squirrel, the species need not matter.

Marcus on October 10, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Carney went on, implying that it was wrong for Mitt Romney to seize on the events in the Middle East without knowing all of the facts

…so Mitt guessed better…than JugEars…who had all the facts!

KOOLAID2 on October 10, 2012 at 5:26 PM

LIAR!!!!

cmsinaz on October 10, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Depends on what the definition of “is” is

gatorboy on October 10, 2012 at 5:27 PM

yup

pat on October 10, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Lamest WH press secretary ever.

But what would we expect from the lamest president ever?

UltimateBob on October 10, 2012 at 5:27 PM

If this little, lying weasel/worm of a man ever had to get a real job, he wouldn’t last a day.

SailorMark on October 10, 2012 at 5:27 PM

If Carney ever spoke the truth about his boss, his tongue would catch fire.

Liam on October 10, 2012 at 5:28 PM

More convoluted than an ABR nutball explaining their stance. But not by much.

I wonder if Carney has to puke before going in front of Tapper?

cozmo on October 10, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Mr Romney was right from the start as were most people who followed theis thing from the beginning.

TroubledMonkey on October 10, 2012 at 5:29 PM

This has to be settling into peoples minds.. that this president is not only clueless, but uninterested in finding one.

I’d expect this is partly why Mitt’s surging in the pools.

mark81150 on October 10, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Jay Carney has become the Press Fantasist.

Curtiss on October 10, 2012 at 5:30 PM

bastards

rob verdi on October 10, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Fresh lies are not helping.
If the dog poops on the rug concealing it with a bigger poop will not work.

NeoKong on October 10, 2012 at 5:30 PM

More convoluted than an ABR nutball explaining their stance. But not by much.

I wonder if Carney has to puke before going in front of Tapper?

cozmo on October 10, 2012 at 5:28 PM

He’s gotta have cases of Maalox in his office.

mark81150 on October 10, 2012 at 5:31 PM

“Burn!!!” indeed!

whatcat on October 10, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Was it “an act of terror” or was it “terrorism?”

Yes, a whole lot of “mincing” going on at the podium.

Drained Brain on October 10, 2012 at 5:33 PM

The videos above are the answer to yesterday’s question:

“Where has Carney been for the last 15 days?”

Answer, hiding until someone noticed and called it to everyone’s attention.

He knew he was going to get hoisted – the cowardly little weasel has been requesting “additional security” before having to face “the mob”.

PolAgnostic on October 10, 2012 at 5:33 PM

I transcribed an explosive exchange at today’s hearing, then wrote this article to highlight the testimony. Please RT.

LFRGary on October 10, 2012 at 5:35 PM

The Obama administration bet the ranch on this mess going away quickly with a narrative of “the tape did it.” Now their words are going to hang them. I’d blame one of the other Sesame Street characters as Big Bird seems to be overplayed. Cookie monster seems like a crafty fellow.

STL_Vet on October 10, 2012 at 5:36 PM

The desperate attempts to defend him via weak defensive and false analogies are not working.
You can mantra ’1979′ all you want, but Obama did well here and Romney looks small.

verbaluce on September 13, 2012 at 10:22 AM

rogerb on October 10, 2012 at 5:37 PM

President George Washington supposedly ” never told a lie”
This guy will go down in history as “never told the truth!”
But, old George was only human — not a messiah.

Don L on October 10, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Rush’s seminole album moving pictures…

monttybaggs on October 10, 2012 at 5:38 PM

breaking news, Obama’s Ring Inscription:THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH

will this amount to anything? owe’bama’s fund raising scam didn’t amount to anything……

Dr. Demento on October 10, 2012 at 5:38 PM

tingles defending the heck out of this white house natch
praising elijah cummings

blech

cmsinaz on October 10, 2012 at 5:39 PM

Not only would Obowma and his Administration leave you behind to be raped, tortured, and killed to cover their political a%%es…

… they would put on dancing shoes and tap dance on your grave, as we are witnessing today.

Too bad this isn’t an election year…

Seven Percent Solution on October 10, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Cookie monster seems like a crafty fellow.

STL_Vet on October 10, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Oscar The Grouch – he’s probably Republican, and a racist too.

oldroy on October 10, 2012 at 5:40 PM

This administration would have called 9-11-2001 a horrible navigation systems failure.

meci on October 10, 2012 at 5:41 PM

I nominate Jake Tapper to moderate the upcoming debate, because as far as I can tell he is an honest journalist, and Obama didn’t attend his wedding.

munseym on October 10, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Can’t imgine what would possess someone to want the job of being barack’s personal butt-wiper. To bald-face lie like that on a daily basis . . . I think he sold his soul.

DuctTapeMyBrain on October 10, 2012 at 5:42 PM

I nominate Jake Tapper to moderate the upcoming debate, because as far as I can tell he is an honest journalist, and Obama didn’t attend his wedding.

munseym on October 10, 2012 at 5:41 PM

2nd that….

cmsinaz on October 10, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Is this what karma looks like?

Ellis on October 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM

Studies
Investigations
Red tape

Run around.

The Carnie Barker is a sock puppet.

Nothing to see here. We do have a serious attack on Big bird.

seven on October 10, 2012 at 5:44 PM

They are screwed.

Terrye on October 10, 2012 at 5:45 PM

CARNEY: Right. I’m not disputing that there was a protest,

No, there was no protest in Benghazi.

rbj on October 10, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Dropping new Lies to cover up the old Lies….its the Jay Carney show!!!!

Uhhhh Just because you have me on video saying that doesn’t mean I ever said it!

Varchild on October 10, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Courtesy of Jake “OH SNAPPER” Tapper.

mintycrys on October 10, 2012 at 5:47 PM

breaking news, Obama’s Ring Inscription:THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH

Dr. Demento on October 10, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Woah!

Nobody but a muslem would wear a ring like that.

Rebar on October 10, 2012 at 5:48 PM

I watched a bit of today’s Congressional hearings where Rep. Trey Gowdy, (R) SC, called out Carney. Gowdy was great! He took no prisoners, and asked that Carney be summoned to testify before the committee.

MustLoveBlogs on October 10, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Doogie Howser! (sorry, no offense to Doogie)

skeedro on October 10, 2012 at 5:48 PM

The State Department personnel would not use the term, “terrorists”…
The government thinks we are stupid…

d1carter on October 10, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Never have I seen someone talk so much as Carney does and say so little…

Except for his boss.

Common Sense Floridian on October 10, 2012 at 5:49 PM

As far as Presidents go..We had George Washington who could not tell a lie….Richard Nixon who could not tell the truth…Bill Clinton who did not know the difference…and finally Barack Obama who says you can’t handle the truth!!!!!!!!!!!

logicman_1998 on October 10, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Carney must have been stuffed in to a lot of lockers as a kid huh? What a loser. I mean this guy makes Bagdad Bob look like an amateur..

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 10, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Let them keep talking, it only sinks their ship faster…

hillsoftx on October 10, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Carney: ” (we)… did not have concrete evidence to suggest this was not in reaction to the film…”

The Point is, and was, there was never any evidence, concrete or otherwise, that the attack in Benghazi was a reaction to the film. The Admistration starting covering their collective butts and misleading from the gitgo.

parke on October 10, 2012 at 5:51 PM

As much as I think that Carney is a sniveling little ratfink, I honestly don’t envy his job right now.

The phrase “defending the indefensible” comes to mind.

JustTurnRight on October 10, 2012 at 5:51 PM

800, 801, 802, 803 paper cuts…

Hurry up 1,000

SouthernGent on October 10, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Again, this is a moving picture, and people who, on the night of an attack, or the day after, claim they know all the facts without making clear that what we know is based on preliminary information aren’t being straight.

Hey Carney! Ya freaking liar! “Intelligence” knew within 24 hours, yet you and your boss went on for days afterwards peddling your phony “demonstration” line.

GarandFan on October 10, 2012 at 5:52 PM

Can you imagine what it must be like to be the Press Secretary for a Dem president?! You have to go out and lie almost every single day. You can’t honestly tell the reporters what the administration intends to accomplish. You can’t honestly what has been the result of your policies. I would NOT want to have that job. But evidently a lot of Dems have no qualms about having that job and performing the duties of lying every day. It says a lot about the people who are willing and who want to have that job. Mo ethics or morality.

mydh12 on October 10, 2012 at 5:53 PM

President Obama The media ran with the media’s the Obama administration’s spin.

FIFY.

Resist We Much on October 10, 2012 at 5:53 PM

LIAR…..

crosshugger on October 10, 2012 at 5:54 PM

The Romney campaign will completely fumble this opportunity to run hard hitting ads on this, that’s a given, but Romney and Ryan themselves seem like they can make up for their campaign’s utter incompetence.

Daemonocracy on October 10, 2012 at 5:56 PM

the biggest question on the mainstream media’s collective mind was not anything in the vein of, Is any of this related to terrorism…

Do those idiots ever get tired of making fools of themselves? This is almost as pathetic as all the media celebrating Arab Spring and OWS. They are wrong about everything always.

forest on October 10, 2012 at 5:57 PM

Good point, and on Libya now maybe that is the issue to concentrate in the final stretch on this election, though I think Obamacare and the economy are going to be more effective if we have to triage the issues.

And take a look at Mitt’s latest ad. VERY effective: http://www.mittromney.com/forms/helping-middle-class?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=20121010_wmr_lb_helping-the-middle-class-vid_twitter&utm_content=wmr

anotherJoe on October 10, 2012 at 6:00 PM

It’s good to have Jay back in the saddle again. He was missed. I’ll bet he dreaded coming out there today.:)

a capella on October 10, 2012 at 6:01 PM

breaking news, Obama’s Ring Inscription:THERE IS NO GOD BUT ALLAH

Dr. Demento on October 10, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Woah!

Nobody but a muslem would wear a ring like that.

Rebar on October 10, 2012 at 5:48 PM

It’s WND guys. Why would you bother? It’s like posting Onion stuff as reality.

lorien1973 on October 10, 2012 at 6:01 PM

There’s dopey mara liaason sitting there. She looks bored as hell. LOL

envycat on October 10, 2012 at 6:02 PM

Baghdad Jay.

hepcat on October 10, 2012 at 6:02 PM

There was no protest. There was no intelligence indicating the attack was related to the video. None. It was a story line fabricated out of thin air by the WH, which then instructed Rice to carry its water.

petefrt on October 10, 2012 at 6:02 PM

verbaluce on September 13, 2012 at 10:22 AM

I’m smokin’ the wrong stuff, apparently.

4 dead, US State Dept. flunky says the request for additional security didn’t meet the level of a request. State says they never considered the attack to be a protest that got out of control, even though thats exactly what they said. WH still says video is the cause of the protest that got out of hand.

Did I mention 4 Americans were murdered? The US amb. to the UN is set out to spread the lie, and still tells it today. 4 Americans were murdered (did I forget to mention that?)

Nixon covered up a crime he didn’t know about when it occurred, and nobody died. There are 4 dead Americans in Libya, and the current POTUS is still lying about what happened.

Nixon and St. Peter are having a good laugh at all this.

BobMbx on October 10, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Sorry for the repetition of a sentiment I expressed yesterday, but I dream about this fetus’s last press session where they put his testicles in a vice and each correspondent walks by and gives the handle one complete turn.

I want to hear his screams all the way out here on the Left Coast!

The War Planner on October 10, 2012 at 6:03 PM

This entire administration is just corrupt to the core.

gophergirl on October 10, 2012 at 6:06 PM

The phrase “defending the indefensible” comes to mind.

JustTurnRight on October 10, 2012 at 5:51 PM

..I’m going with festering heap of moldering pig feces.

The War Planner on October 10, 2012 at 6:07 PM

There’s dopey mara liaason sitting there. She looks bored as hell. LOL

envycat on October 10, 2012 at 6:02 PM

How many of these “elite” journalists in the WH press pool look down on bloggers? How much education does it take to listen to Jay Carney dissemble. Well, doing it without puking is a talent. Other than that, the average person waiting for a bus could do their job.

hepcat on October 10, 2012 at 6:07 PM

are those telepromters that Carney has on his podium?

2?

so, what? the axe team is behind the scenes feeding the puppet his talking points?

r keller on October 10, 2012 at 6:07 PM

If the legacy media allows this administration to blatantly lie to the American people, more Americans will die.

d1carter on October 10, 2012 at 6:08 PM

The phrase “defending the indefensible” comes to mind.

JustTurnRight on October 10, 2012 at 5:51 PM

When you’re right, use the facts.

When you’re wrong, question the law.

We’ll soon start being fed stories about how Stevens’ was a real crybaby, always wanting more security or intelligence briefings, and after many months of his nagging, it became impossible to sort the whining from the real scenario, so its his own fault he’s dead.

No one will be allowed to hang this on Obama’s neck. Susan Rice is the prime suspect for taking the hit on this one.

BobMbx on October 10, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Sorry for the repetition of a sentiment I expressed yesterday, but I dream about this fetus’s last press session where they put his testicles in a vice and each correspondent walks by and gives the handle one complete turn.

No no….you don’t give it a turn as you pass by. Once you get them in there nice and snug, you hand passersby a 5lb hammer and instruct them to whack the side of the vice with gusto.

Trust me…..much worse than eventually popping the marbles.

BobMbx on October 10, 2012 at 6:11 PM

“mincing words”? If words could sue, they would have a viable lawsuit against this administration for assault and battery.

natasha333 on October 10, 2012 at 6:13 PM

These people are professional liars. It’s incredible that they spent a week saying that this was a spontaneous attack resulting from some stupid video. That they conflated the protests in Egypt with what happened in Libya in suggesting that it was a protest that got out of hand and that the ambassador was caught in the melee.

This was the story they were pushing for over a week until SECDEF and then Hillary said what EVERYONE knew had happen–it was a planned terrorist attack on 9-11 by AL Qaeda affliates exploiting the poor security environment at our consulate in Benghazi.

These people need to be impeached! I am sick of them! I am sick of their lies and deception! Now, they say not to play politics, when that’s what they were doing the whole time! The height of hubris as no limit for these people! Romney and the GOP better not let them off the hook on this!

milemarker2020 on October 10, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Bengali facility? That’s near the Maldives, right?

Christien on October 10, 2012 at 6:14 PM

The desperate attempts to defend him via weak defensive and false analogies are not working.
You can mantra ’1979′ all you want, but Obama did well here and Romney looks small.

verbaluce on September 13, 2012 at 10:22 AM

Just two days before the 9/11 anniversary attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, two leaders of the Libyan militias responsible for keeping order in the city threatened to withdraw their men.

The brinksmanship is detailed in a cable approved by Ambassador Chris Stevens and sent on the day he died in the attack, the worst assault on a U.S. diplomatic mission since the 1979 hostage crisis in Iran. The dispatch, which was marked “sensitive” but not “classified,” contained a number of other updates on the chaotic situation on the ground in post-Gaddafi Libya…

- Eli Lake, The Daily Beast

“Eli Lake is the[1] and national security correspondent for the Daily Beast and Newsweek Magazine and a frequent contributor to the Bloggingheads.tv. He was previously a national security reporter at the New York Sun[2] and the State Department correspondent for the UPI.[3] He is also a contributing editor for The New Republic.

Never mind. He sounds like a “severe,” right-wing neo-con to me.

**eyeroll**

Resist We Much on October 10, 2012 at 6:14 PM

The War Planner on October 10, 2012 at 6:03 PM

What is wrong with you? I’m not sure but I don’t think he has any testicles.

Nobody in this administration does, except POTUS.

Study Egyptian pharaohs.

IlikedAUH2O on October 10, 2012 at 6:17 PM

It’s WND guys. Why would you bother? It’s like posting Onion stuff as reality.

lorien1973 on October 10, 2012 at 6:01 PM

it’s so much fun! and it explains bowing to the saudi king and not bringing his wife….. yes, so much fun…

Dr. Demento on October 10, 2012 at 6:18 PM

..I’m going with festering heap of moldering pig feces.
The War Planner on October 10, 2012 at 6:07 PM

I can’t argue with that one, either.

However, it’s no wonder that Carney looks half dead when he’s at the podium.
It’s a well-known fact that after you sell your soul to the Devil, you lose a little bounce in your step.

JustTurnRight on October 10, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Your soul is so black, you lying s.o.b., Jawbone of an Ass.

disa on October 10, 2012 at 6:23 PM

We did everything right.
The Libyans acted stupidly.
Move along.

pambi on October 10, 2012 at 6:23 PM

The arrogance of this administration is sickening…

d1carter on October 10, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Now I understand why all the reporters at the pressers try to get the seats in the back.Nobody wants to be too close to Carney when he starts lying because his nose might poke their eyes out!

redware on October 10, 2012 at 6:25 PM

If this little, lying weasel/worm of a man ever had to get a real job, he wouldn’t last a day.

SailorMark on October 10, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Oh, there are plenty of businesses where this pathological liar would be snapped up in a heartbeat.

disa on October 10, 2012 at 6:25 PM

If the legacy media allows this administration to blatantly lie to the American people, more Americans will die.

d1carter on October 10, 2012 at 6:08 PM

You think they care if Americans die? Esp. white male ones?

It is my contention that POTUS has acted to save Muslim lives, not ours and I expect this to continue. OBL?

I just spoke to a Muslim last night (who is leaving for Mecca in point of fact) who remarked that he “…is glad OBL is dead”. I like Muslims, as this administration does, but people like me who threaten massive bomb damage or genocide make them behave.

Like Saddam kept everyone in line and democracy can’t.

IlikedAUH2O on October 10, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Jay Carney has become the Press Fantasist.

Curtiss on October 10, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Benghazi Bob.

disa on October 10, 2012 at 6:27 PM

“There was never nothing that did not indicate that nothing never did not follow protests that may or may not have never not occurred and which those on the scene did not have available immediately afterwards. You are going to have to check with those at the hearings while the President does not not do a thorough investigation and does not never ever not allow this to not happen again. Not. Never. Never not. Never. Not. Not.” – Carney

justltl on October 10, 2012 at 6:28 PM

No one will be allowed to hang this on Obama’s neck.
BobMbx on October 10, 2012 at 6:08 PM

I believe “allowed” is the operative word.

If memory serves, didn’t some of these J-school bozos used to say things like “speak truth to power” and such?? Is that still in vogue, or does that only hold true when it’s a Republican president?

Ha-ha-ha…. sorry.
That’s a silly question.

JustTurnRight on October 10, 2012 at 6:28 PM

TAPPER: President Obama, shortly after the attack told “60 Minutes” that regarding Mitt Romney’s response to the attacks, specifically in Egypt, the president said that Romney has a tendency to “shoot first and aim later.” Given the fact that so much was made out of the video that apparently had absolutely nothing to do with the attack in Benghazi, that there wasn’t even a protest outside the Benghazi post, didn’t President Obama shoot first and aim later? …
===================================================================

What is the first thing that the Obama Administration said about
Libya related:

Obama campaign accuses Romney of exploiting the attacks on US offices in Egypt, Libya for electoral gain – @TPM

Sep 12, 2012, 12:19 a.m. from 2012.talkingpointsmemo.com by editor

Mitt Romney stands by criticism of White House on Libya, Egypt – @Reuters

Sep 12, 2012, 11:38 a.m. from http://www.reuters.com by editor

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/us-consulate-attacked-in-libya

canopfor on October 10, 2012 at 6:29 PM

Wazzup with Drudge ??
Too much, too fast, to post links ??
C’mon, Matt !!!

pambi on October 10, 2012 at 6:30 PM

Benghazi Bengali Bob.

disa on October 10, 2012 at 6:27 PM

FIFY

Christien on October 10, 2012 at 6:33 PM

Jay Carney has become the Press Fantasist.

Curtiss on October 10, 2012 at 5:30 PM

I don’t think you will ever realize just how scary it was reading that.

And it had nothing to do with the subject.

cozmo on October 10, 2012 at 6:38 PM

bret had an excellent timeline about benghazi just now

wow, just wow

my blood is boiling

cmsinaz on October 10, 2012 at 6:41 PM

Carney is a piece of catshit…I bet his mommy is real proud of his “accomplishments”.

dirtengineer on October 10, 2012 at 6:42 PM

cmsinaz on October 10, 2012 at 6:41 PM

I agree. We need to revisit the time line just to remind ourselves how totally arrogant and deceitful this administration is.

d1carter on October 10, 2012 at 6:49 PM

How dare those Republicans politicize politics. That’s simply beyond the pale.

slickwillie2001 on October 10, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Mara Liasson thinks that it is Romney’s responsibility to showcase the White House coverup..? What is the responsibility of the legacy media..? Mara? Hello?

d1carter on October 10, 2012 at 6:50 PM

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