Ex-security officer in Libya on State Dep’t bureaucracy: “The Taliban is on the inside of the building”

posted at 8:08 pm on October 10, 2012 by Allahpundit

The devastating soundbite du jour from today’s House Oversight hearings, courtesy of Eric Nordstrom. There’ll be some faux-trage aimed at him for his choice of metaphor here, if only in the interest of changing the subject politically, but don’t get bogged down in it. He’s not calling State an enemy, he’s saying that their persistent bureaucratic excuse-making in refusing to give him the manpower he needed to protect Stevens was ultimately his chief problem in Libya. More from ABC:

Lieutenant Colonel Andrew Wood, the commander of a Security Support Team (SST) sent home in August – against his wishes and, he says, the wishes of the late Ambassador Chris Stevens – said “we were fighting a losing battle. We couldn’t even keep what we had.”

Nordstrom agreed, saying, “it was abundantly clear we were not going to get resources until the aftermath of an incident. And the question that we would ask is again, ‘How thin does the ice need to get until someone falls through?’”

Wood said that when he heard of the attack on the Benghazi post on September 11, it was “instantly recognizable” that it had been a terrorist attack.

Why?

“Mainly because of my prior knowledge there,” Wood said. “I almost expected the attack to come. We were the last flag flying. It was a matter of time.

An obvious terror attack, according to security pros who had just returned from the country, and yet your Secretary of State went out there three days later as Stevens’s body was arriving at Andrews AFB and denounced “rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful Internet video that we had nothing to do with.” If personnel like Wood knew it was terrorism and the State Department allegedly never concluded that there was a protest in front of the consulate, why was Hillary talking about an “awful Internet video” in the aftermath?


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Cover up – expose it.

Philly on October 10, 2012 at 8:09 PM

If personnel like Wood knew it was terrorism and the State Department allegedly never concluded that there was a protest in front of the consulate, why was Hillary talking about an “awful Internet video” in the aftermath?

because Hillary has real combat experience unlike this gentleman ?

burrata on October 10, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Thanks Obama..

F?kn’ $#%%$..
Bastar?…#@##$#@#

[Shoe projectile in the air]

Electrongod on October 10, 2012 at 8:13 PM

With the Muslims rejecting Obama..

Obama is truly alone..

This will not end well.

Electrongod on October 10, 2012 at 8:14 PM

If personnel like Wood knew it was terrorism and the State Department allegedly never concluded that there was a protest in front of the consulate, why was Hillary talking about an “awful Internet video” in the aftermath?

If Jay Carney were asked that question, I’m sure he clearly tell you that you’re taking her words out of context. Or that she was only stating what she knew at the time in a very fluid situation. Or that she never said it all and you know she didn’t.

Curtiss on October 10, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Damn – CHILLING – obama and Hillary must be held accountable.

Pork-Chop on October 10, 2012 at 8:15 PM

When will the pressitutes quit covering for The Won and get on the stick? Hillary and Rice should resign and Obama needs to be held accountable. Yeah, I know. It’s not going to happen. It’s all ‘politics’ in the election season. Blah Blah Blah.

Corporal Tunnel on October 10, 2012 at 8:15 PM

…why was Hillary talking about an “awful Internet video” in the aftermath?

She wanted to set the meme. Tell the lie first and even when it has to be corrected, the lie is what stays in people’s mind.

Occasionally this doesn’t work, and when it does fall apart, it blows up in a spectacular manner because people are furious they were lied to in the first place.

Libya was serious enough that there were people who did leak info and make statements that quickly undermined the WH meme. The excuse was also incredibly lame.

INC on October 10, 2012 at 8:16 PM

CNN Anderson Cooper just had Sean Smith’s mother on… it was hard to watch. She told it like it is though…

equanimous on October 10, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Libya was serious enough that there were people who did leak info and make statements that quickly undermined the WH meme. The excuse was also incredibly lame.

INC on October 10, 2012 at 8:16 PM

In this case, it confirms the old cliche… The coverup is worse than the crime.

Corporal Tunnel on October 10, 2012 at 8:18 PM

I saw about an hour of the hearings. It was devastating. State Dept. rep. Lamb and Ambassador Kennedy were trying their best to stonewall the investigators, but LTC Wood and Nordstrom told enough to make it a REALLY bad afternoon for the Obama bunch.

mydh12 on October 10, 2012 at 8:20 PM

I’m just waiting for verbaluce to call Nordstrom and Wood, “Lying, Obama-hatin’, Republican Party political operatives”…

Anti-Control on October 10, 2012 at 8:21 PM

When will the pressitutes quit covering for The Won and get on the stick?

Corporal Tunnel on October 10, 2012 at 8:15 PM

HA HA HA HA HA…OH MAN…HA HA HA…I stopped reading right th-HAHAHAHA…

fossten on October 10, 2012 at 8:21 PM

…they weren’t killed…they were murdered!

KOOLAID2 on October 10, 2012 at 8:22 PM

In this case, it confirms the old cliche… The coverup is worse than the crime.

Corporal Tunnel on October 10, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Well, the crime was so horrific, that it truly highlights the coverup as reprehensible.

Although more have been killed by F & F, it is still unfolding. It took so long and so much was buried that has had to be pulled out tooth and nail. Libya was quick, sudden and all over the news.

INC on October 10, 2012 at 8:22 PM

My “independent” friend was trying to convince me that Obama was better for national security and foreign policy. What a fluking joke.

jawkneemusic on October 10, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Impeach

SouthernGent on October 10, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Watch Anderson Cooper tonight.

Mother of State Dept guy – gamer dude who was killed in Benghazi.

WOM is she lays it on Barry.

budfox on October 10, 2012 at 8:23 PM

“taliban is on the inside of the building!”

now this is starting to make sense: http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-is-no-god-but-allah/

Dr. Demento on October 10, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Wood and Nordstrom were totally convincing. Kennedy and Nordstrom, not o much.
I haven’t seen this much blood on the floor since Nixon.

katy the mean old lady on October 10, 2012 at 8:24 PM

About time he be held responsible in addition to Hill. Damage.

Philly on October 10, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Impeach

SouthernGent on October 10, 2012 at 8:22 PM

How? Can it be done right now without looking overtly political? If Obama loses, Impeach in the lame duck session?

Corporal Tunnel on October 10, 2012 at 8:26 PM

No notes/emails/recordings from the late Ambassador himself? Curious, to say the least. Even if evidence was destroyed during the sacking, there must be (or have been) some extant in Washington.

Seth Halpern on October 10, 2012 at 8:27 PM

NORDSTROM Lamb

katy the mean old lady on October 10, 2012 at 8:27 PM

OBAMA BELONGS IN A PRISON CELL

That is all….

turfmann on October 10, 2012 at 8:27 PM

HA HA HA HA HA…OH MAN…HA HA HA…I stopped reading right th-HAHAHAHA…

fossten on October 10, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Yeah, that was completely unintentional, but it was funny.

Corporal Tunnel on October 10, 2012 at 8:27 PM

I wouldn’t dismiss his statement as a metaphor, either.

RedRedRice on October 10, 2012 at 8:28 PM

This is far beyond mere incompetence from the State Department and the White House. This is criminal.

Axion on October 10, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Lamb kinda reminds me of Honey Boo-Boo’s mom.

Corporal Tunnel on October 10, 2012 at 8:29 PM

He and Nordstrom were both highly credible and their testimony was devastating. Security was reduced in the face of requests for additional men and resources. The increasing threat was reflected in higher “danger pay”.

Lamb and Kennedy offered no coherent explanations for the decisions to reject requests for additional security resources and to reduce security assets instead. And incoherent is the best possible thing you could say about their testimony.

Security decisions for foreign outposts were made based on Obama’s domestic political agenda. He needed a narrative of a normalizing Libya to justify his intervention and protect his foreign policy cred. So he conformed security to support the narrative instead of an honest appraisal of the realities on the ground.

Four Americans are dead as a direct result of subverting national interests to personal political agendas.

novaculus on October 10, 2012 at 8:29 PM

If it was anyone other than Hillary Clinton she would be under the bus now…
The cover story sounds more like Valerie Jarrett and the legacy media yawns…politicized.

d1carter on October 10, 2012 at 8:30 PM

An obvious terror attack, according to security pros who had just returned from the country, and yet your Secretary of State went out there three days later as Stevens’s body was arriving at Andrews AFB and denounced “rage and violence directed at American embassies over an awful Internet video that we had nothing to do with.”

Please let’s finish that thought.

Your Ambassador to the UN went out there five days later and described the whole attack along the lines of a college frat party gone wrong when uninvited guests showed up with RPGs and Mortars.

Your President showed up days after that and spent a good portion of his speech at the opening session of the UN furthering the lie.

In between all this, hirelings also lied.

But with all this, what do we hear from Obama today? Big Bird and an admission that he had an “off” night for the first debate.

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2012 at 8:31 PM

As Joe would say, “This is a big f cking deal. “

Bmore on October 10, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Lamb kinda reminds me of Honey Boo-Boo’s mom.

Corporal Tunnel on October 10, 2012 at 8:29 PM

I keep seeing references and clips of a truly annoying child. I’m stupid. mWho the hell is this?

katy the mean old lady on October 10, 2012 at 8:32 PM

now this is starting to make sense: http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-is-no-god-but-allah/

Dr. Demento on October 10, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Now I’m totally speechless .
It explains so much , the bow, the hatred, the policies, the rhetoric, the loyalties……

burrata on October 10, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Hillary lied, people died.

Sasha List on October 10, 2012 at 8:34 PM

katy the mean old lady on October 10, 2012 at 8:32 PM

You really don’t want to know, but here goes. My daughter is the one who told me about this appalling show about moms who tart up their little girls and put them in ‘beauty contests.’ Honey Boo-Boo is one, and evidently she was appalling enough to get her dysfunctional family on their own reality show.

INC on October 10, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Lamb kinda reminds me of Honey Boo-Boo’s mom.

Corporal Tunnel on October 10, 2012 at 8:29 PM

Lamb makes me run to the law books to explore the ways that one can convict civil servants for their actions. She has $1.2B for her security operations and was parsimonious when it came to what is argubably one of the most dangerous facilities in her portfolio? Maybe the consulate in Munich could do without that new camera system or the embassy in Tokyo could do without a new fence if it means keeping Americans safe in Benghazi. Just saying. The woman has blood on her hands.

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2012 at 8:38 PM

He’s not calling State an enemy

Let’s be clear: the State is most certainly an enemy. It is, in fact, the enemy.

Dante on October 10, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Puppy!

claudius on October 10, 2012 at 8:38 PM

obaka must effing GO!!!!

ladyingray on October 10, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Now I’m totally speechless .
It explains so much , the bow, the hatred, the policies, the rhetoric, the loyalties……

burrata on October 10, 2012 at 8:34 PM

but does that story gain traction? if a tree in the forest falls, but nobody is around, did it make a sound?

owebama’s racist speech story didn’t get traction nor did the foriegn credit cards under $250…..

Dr. Demento on October 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Puppy!

claudius on October 10, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Supper?

Bmore on October 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM

I think HRC is about to throw obama and rest of obama administration under the bus. She is concerned that she could be taken down and out of 2016, and would rather deal with taking obama down than going down with him.

Furthermore, I was thinking about this earlier looking at the Libya situation, I am actually thinking that obama would rather lose the election, then what would ensue after the election, namely impeachment.

If the GOP holds the house, (and they will), and wins the senate,(I think they will), would he rather face them in congress and ruin any chance of a legacy, and have biden become president (who would more than likely be impeached as well), and make obama looks bad.

obama is all about image, and if he was to be impeached, it would be bad, not only for him, but also the dem party.

ConservativePartyNow on October 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM

the most open administration evah!!!

CW on October 10, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Boo-Boo is one, and evidently she was appalling enough to get her dysfunctional family on their own reality show.

INC on October 10, 2012 at 8:37 PM

No! The appalling thing was that she was apparently the family breadwinner doing the creepy toddlers in tiaras thing.

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2012 at 8:31 PM

You forgot the $70 thousand tax dollars spent on advertisements in Pakistan to spread the word about the awful video.

JPeterman on October 10, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Reuters Live
=============

Rep. Issa: The terror attack in Benghazi was one that was “reasonably predictable to have happened somewhere in the world.”
by matthew.keys 12:19 PM

Rep. Elijah Cummings: Contrary to reports, five U.S. agents were providing security for the consulate in Benghazi, Libya the evening of the attack.
by matthew.keys 12:19 PM

Rep. Eleanor Norton: “I agree with Mr. Chaffetz that perhaps, had there been more resources, we might have had a different result, but I must note that while the Republican budget increases the budget of the defense department, it slashes the budget that would have protected these diplomats.”
by matthew.keys 12:30 PM

Lt. Col. Wood: Ambassador received a “threat on Facebook,” noting that he liked to run around the grounds of the U.S. Embassy in Libya.
by matthew.keys 12:44 PM

Mr. Nordstrom: Due to Libyan security sensitivities, armed private security companies were not allowed to operate in Libya. Job of private security guards were to report suspicious activity to armed authorities.
by matthew.keys 12:52 PM

http://live.reuters.com/Event/US_House_committee_hearing_on_security_in_Benghazi_Libya?Page=0

canopfor on October 10, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Looks like some of that famed Clinton triangulation: some blame for Shrillery, some blame for Zero, the two of them keep their yaps shut, and it never really gets off the ground. The worst government cover-up since Watergate — and no one got killed there — and the sharia media manages to keep it mostly under wraps. The debates will be interesting…

Rational Thought on October 10, 2012 at 8:44 PM

CNN Anderson Cooper just had Sean Smith’s mother on… it was hard to watch. She told it like it is though…

equanimous on October 10, 2012 at 8:17 PM

Yeah I saw it too. HA should put it up. She wants to know what happened and nobody will tell her. She described what it was like when she met the President and Panetta. At first she said it was great and very emotional then she felt empty because the President turned his head away or something. It’s like she had an epiphany that it wasn’t sincere. Very different than Doherty’s mother who praised Obama in the Daily Beast and continues to back Obama on everything. She is obviously blinded by her love for Obama. Romney was right to honor her request and keep quiet about Doherty going forward. You can’t win that argument with a grieving mother even she is the one being political.

Wigglesworth on October 10, 2012 at 8:46 PM

HR. Clinton and her boss, Barack Obama are responsible for the lack of security for our personnel in Libya. Period.

They lied about the reason for the attack, as if that would constitute some mitigating circumstance or factor, they tried to classify it as a criminal event, rather than a blatant act of war perpetrated against our consulate,our sovereign soil, thereby, our nation. Clearly, this administration was more interesting in shifting blame and downplaying the magnitude of the breech of security and command than in finding out what happened, who was immediately responsible, or even securing the area of the consulate in order to retrieve any vital or valuable intelligence information.

Further, these suggestions being preferred by that this is some sort of election year partisan attack against them are tripe. A breech this big, an Ambassador being murdered along with three others in an American consulate, coupled with a catastrophic breech of intelligence, constitutes a catastrophe great enough to require immediate investigation regardless of when, or where, it occurs.

It is my sincere hope that this will be pursued until all of the answers come to light and those responsible for this breech are punished appropriately.

thatsafactjack on October 10, 2012 at 8:47 PM

I think HRC is about to throw obama and rest of obama administration under the bus.

ConservativePartyNow on October 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM

The Congressional testimony more or less blamed CIA. Of course, that is running down the clock because it is harder to find out what they were doing in Benghazi or the sources of their input into the intelligence assessment.

But there is also this. Don’t piss off an organization with the capability of bringing down governments.

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2012 at 8:47 PM

why was Hillary talking about an “awful Internet video” in the aftermath?

I am so glad their goose is cooked–finally. A short story–one day after the 9/ll attack on our consulate, my son’s girlfriend spent an overnight, we had a conversation which apparently was profound to her. Her coworker was the sister-in-law to the ‘fourth American’ killed in that attack (rarely mentioned by name, Sean Smith–a retired Airman working in security, specifically cable/internet connections.) She was astounded this could happen to someone close to her (and, yes, she voted O.)

Now? It’s a whole different ball game with her. She not only sees this differently, more importantly, she sees politics differently–a definitive win for us!

For this to end, have faith that all Americans want to better their lives; that won’t happen unless we elect a leader.

jersey taxpayer on October 10, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2012 at 8:38 PM

When it comes to diplomatic security, a great deal of money is wasted and a huge bureaucracy has sprung up to help waste it. There are tons of regulations, forms, waivers, contracting procedures, endless and time-consuming hoops to jump through before any significant security enhancements can be instituted. This leads to all sorts of cheating.

It seems that the facility in Benghazi was one of those “cheaters.” It is not clear what that facility was, and how it was classified. It is not listed as a consulate. Who had primary responsibility for that facility? Was it, as some press reports have indicated, primarily a CIA listening post? Was it something else?

… the real issue is that the State Department has increasingly little foreign policy common sense. It recruits people out of the universities who have little experience or common sense, and merely reflect the nonsense passed off as wisdom in grad student or teacher lounges. The State Department rewards people who do not rock the boat, who have a good ear for domestic US trends, and who worry about achieving consensus. You do not often find the thinkers and doers and knowers in the action parts of the State department. You will find some of the smartest people at State working in Intelligence and Research (INR), in fact, their reports tend to be considerably better than those by CIA or DIA; they are virtually ignored, especially if their assessment is at odds with whatever the political fad of the day has become. INR is a career dead-end; doesn’t pay to be smart and knowledgeable.

State has come to believe that foreign policy just involves an exotic locale for carrying out domestic political obsessions. We will liberate women! We will bring democracy to these people! They are just like us but don’t know it yet!

INC on October 10, 2012 at 8:51 PM

You forgot the $70 thousand tax dollars spent on advertisements in Pakistan to spread the word about the awful video.

JPeterman on October 10, 2012 at 8:43 PM

Good add! I was strictly talking about the bad actors but we shouldn’t forget the monetary aspect of this scandal. And make no mistake this is a much larger scandal than Watergate or Iran-Contra.

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Reuters Live
=============

Rep. Issa: In cables denied to U.S. House committee, that were obtained otherwise, concerns were expressed that al Qaeda-type forces were gathering.
by matthew.keys 1:21 PM

Mr. Nordstrom: Guards who were protecting consulate in Benghazi were subcontracted.
by matthew.keys 1:34 PM

Lt. Col. Wood on al Qaeda presence in Libya: “They are certainly more established than we are.”
by matthew.keys 1:57 PM

Rep. Lynch and Rep. Chaffetz have a tussel over perceived classified information at the House hearing.
by matthew.keys 2:09 PM

Ambassador Kennedy: “There is, essentially, two major parts of Libya — east and west. In order to help the Libyans move forward…we could not hunker down. We could not stay out…the State Department has to go into harms way.”
by matthew.keys 2:50 PM

Rep. Mike Kelly: “It’s very unfortunate that terrorists don’t recognize that this is an election year.”
by matthew.keys 3:20 PM

U.S. Ambassador to U.N. Susan Rice, appearing on “FOX News Sunday” September 16, 2012, as quoted by Rep. Trey Gowdy at the House committee hearing:

“The information, the best information and the best assessment we have today is that in fact this was not a preplanned, premeditated attack. That what happened initially was that it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in Cairo as a consequence of the video.”

(transcript source)
by matthew.keys 3:29 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/fox-news-sunday/2012/09/16/amb-susan-rice-rep-mike-rogers-discuss-violence-against-americans-middle-east#p//v/1843960658001
=======================

http://live.reuters.com/Event/US_House_committee_hearing_on_security_in_Benghazi_Libya?Page=1

canopfor on October 10, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Yeah…yeah….but…uh… that dead SEAL’s mom told Romney not to tell the world that he was a hero (or something.)
So… there’s that.
Move along.

Sugar Land on October 10, 2012 at 8:53 PM

“taliban is on the inside of the building!”

now this is starting to make sense: http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-is-no-god-but-allah/

Dr. Demento on October 10, 2012 at 8:24 PM

My thoughts exactly. I would have posted that if you hadn’t.

“The Taliban is on the inside of the building” in Washington, D.C.

Jihad: From Jakarta To The Whitehouse

ITguy on October 10, 2012 at 8:54 PM

CSPAN
======

Congress Holds First Hearing on U.S. Consulate Attack in Libya

Washington, DC
Wednesday, October 10, 2012

U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were killed September 11th in an assault on the American Consulate in Benghazi, Libya. Wednesday, the full House Oversight and Government Reform Committee meets to detail the security situation leading up to the attack.

U.S. officials believe Stevens, a career diplomat who worked with the Libyan resistance before Qaddafi’s overthrow, was killed by al-Qaeda affiliated insurgents who used the protest over an anti-Islamic film as cover for their assault on the U.S. Consulate compound.

The attack was just one of a series of assaults on foreign facilities in Libya. According to several foreign policy experts, pro-Qaddafi holdouts and violent insurgents are taking advantage of political instability to threaten Libya’s slowly emerging democracy.

The murder of Ambassador Stevens highlights the deteriorating political situation in the North African country since the fall of Moammar Qaddafi.

In response to the attack, President Obama said the United States “condemns in the strongest terms this shocking attack.” He also stated that diplomatic posts around the world will all increase security.

Committee Chairman Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) has called Under Secretary of State for Management Patrick Kennedy to testify alongside Deputy Assistant Director for International Programs Charlene Lamb and Eric Nordstrom, the former State Department Regional Security Officer for Libya.
====================================

VIDEO:(04:12:26)

http://www.c-span.org/Events/Congress-to-Hold-First-Hearing-on-US-Consulate-Attack-in-Libya/10737434835/

canopfor on October 10, 2012 at 5:20 PM

canopfor on October 10, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Ex-security officer in Libya on State Dep’t bureaucracy, Eric Nordstrom: “The Taliban is on the inside of the building”

The Taliban?

The Taliban = AfPak

Al-Jama’a al-Islamiyyah al-Muqatilah bi-Libya = Libya

Tanẓīm al-Qā‘idah fī Bilād al-Maghrib al-Islāmī (cited by Clinton) = North Africa

Al Qaeda may make common cause with The Taliban but they are not the same.

Al Qaeda in Libya and growing every day’

- Lt. Colonel Andrew Wood

Look, I’m a girlie-girl fashionista, who is more knowledgeable about the latest line of Louboutins than the detailed workings of the military and matters of national defence, but if the former security officer in Libya is incapable of properly identifying the enemy, how can we ever hope to defeat him?

Resist We Much on October 10, 2012 at 8:56 PM

But my journey is part of a larger journey- one shared by all who’ve ever sought to apply the values of their faith to our society. It’s a journey that takes us back to our nation’s founding, when none other than a UCC church inspired the Boston Tea Party and helped bring an Empire to its knees.

- Barack Hussein Obama
June 23, 2007

ITguy on October 10, 2012 at 8:56 PM

You will never get real freedom and recognition between black and white people in this country without destroying the country, without destroying the present political system, without destroying the present economic system, without rewriting the entire constitution. It will be a complete destruction of everything that America supposedly stands for.

Malcolm X

Only Malcolm X’s autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me. The blunt poetry of his words. His unadorned insistence on respect. He promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline.

Barack Hussein Obama

Hear these quotes spoken by those two men.

ITguy on October 10, 2012 at 8:58 PM

This man is paid to use his judgment and has been trained for what he does. An LTC is fairly high ranking, only two ranks under a General. He gets overruled by an idiot like Lamb who testified today as well.

I give. Each year for at least twenty years the government just keeps FUBAR’n beyond belief.

arnold ziffel on October 10, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Absolute ClusterFark Snafu times X10!!

canopfor on October 10, 2012 at 9:00 PM

It seems that the facility in Benghazi was one of those “cheaters.” It is not clear what that facility was, and how it was classified. It is not listed as a consulate. Who had primary responsibility for that facility? Was it, as some press reports have indicated, primarily a CIA listening post? Was it something else?

INC on October 10, 2012 at 8:51 PM

From what I’ve read most of the agencies working in Benghazi moved out because they were not comfortable with the security. Which goes directly to the question of what the US Ambassador was doing there in the first place. Especially with a minimum security personal detail that ran the minute the attack began.

It is clear to me that the INR (I know a few of these people) and the intelligence community are the intended scapegoats to explain why Obama, Carney, Clinton, and Rice were lying their asses off for weeks. It isn’t going to work.

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2012 at 9:00 PM

ITguy on October 10, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Ha. The group that still meets in that church later joined the UCC, but the UCC had nothing to do with the Boston Tea Party because it didn’t exist until the 20th century.

He is such an incompetent liar.

INC on October 10, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Hill blamed the video narrative on Barry: I was following orders. We couldn’t speak the truth because of the sensitive nature of the investigation so we followed orders from the president.

Excuses from all, and they all need to go. Barry will throw Rice under the bus, and it would have been that easy if the facts didn’t get in the way, but it is a giant mess for him now. He must have thought the media would protect him as per normal or they just would not report it.

Outrage is a powerful thing.

Philly on October 10, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Looks like some of that famed Clinton triangulation: some blame for Shrillery, some blame for Zero, the two of them keep their yaps shut, and it never really gets off the ground. The worst government cover-up since Watergate — and no one got killed there — and the sharia media manages to keep it mostly under wraps. The debates will be interesting…

Rational Thought on October 10, 2012 at 8:44 PM

The only was to break this open is to get Clinton in front of Congressional hearing.

WisRich on October 10, 2012 at 9:02 PM

An LTC is fairly high ranking, only two ranks under a General. He gets overruled by an idiot like Lamb who testified today as well.

Lamb is probably Senior Executive Service (flag-level equivalent).

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2012 at 9:03 PM

but does that story gain traction? if a tree in the forest falls, but nobody is around, did it make a sound?

owebama’s racist speech story didn’t get traction nor did the foriegn credit cards under $250…..

Dr. Demento on October 10, 2012 at 8:41 PM

This story needs to be Breitbarted,
just like Weener’s tweetpics, just like fast and Furious.

burrata on October 10, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Good. I was impressed by what Diplomad said about the INR. I’m sure they’re all about 20X more intelligent than those trying to use them.

INC on October 10, 2012 at 9:04 PM

My thoughts exactly. I would have posted that if you hadn’t.

“The Taliban is on the inside of the building” in Washington, D.C.

Jihad: From Jakarta To The Whitehouse
ITguy on October 10, 2012 at 8:54 PM

but will anyone pick up that wnd story?

Dr. Demento on October 10, 2012 at 9:04 PM

This story needs to be Breitbarted,
just like Weener’s tweetpics, just like fast and Furious.

burrata on October 10, 2012 at 9:03 PM

good idea

Dr. Demento on October 10, 2012 at 9:06 PM

the most open administration evah!!!

CW on October 10, 2012 at 8:42 PM

President Obama has committed to making his administration the most open and transparent in history…

Ramirez’s take:

http://news.investors.com/editorialcartoons/cartoon.aspx?id=616043

ITguy on October 10, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Lamb is probably Senior Executive Service (flag-level equivalent).

Happy Nomad on October 10, 2012 at 9:03 PM

lol, makes my point. She might be that rank but at least in the military you usually—not always though, have some level of competence.

arnold ziffel on October 10, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Rep. Eleanor Norton: “I agree with Mr. Chaffetz that perhaps, had there been more resources, we might have had a different result, but I must note that while the Republican budget increases the budget of the defense department, it slashes the budget that would have protected these diplomats.”

by matthew.keys 12:30 PM

Yes, we have to make choices. You have X number of dollars. Do you really need more members of the Marine Corps Embassy Security Group stationed at the embassies in Denmark and Sweden than in Libya, especially when the ambassador and security personnel in the latter are BEGGING for additional security?

The House’s budget would have slowed the growth of funding to embassies (along with everything else) by $459 million. Meanwhile…the federal government gave the CPB/Big Bird a grant of $444.1 million in 2012. Which would you rather? Should we reinstate embassy funding and tell Big Bird that it’s time that he leaves the welfare nest…after all, he is a 43-year-old multi-millionaire…or leave more embassies understaffed?

“There’s only one candidate who’ll fight for Big Bird and Elmo!”

- President Barack Obama, 10 October 2012

Perhaps, President Obama should fight harder to protect his diplomats by giving them the security that they request instead of giving the 1% teatsuckers at Sesame Street borrowed money from China when even they admit that they do not need Federal subsidies.

Anyhoo, since the Senate hasn’t passed a budget in 1,281 days, Rep Chaffetz’s vote had nothing to do with the funding of security or staffing at embassies.

I Died So That Big Bird & Co Could Live!

Next.

Resist We Much on October 10, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Tonight on Greta:

‘Benghazi-gate’: Fallout from the Congressional hearing on the terror attack on the US consulate in Libya. Special guests: House Oversight Committee Chair Darrell Issa and Amb. John Bolton

INC on October 10, 2012 at 9:10 PM

The group that still meets in that church later joined the UCC, but the UCC had nothing to do with the Boston Tea Party because it didn’t exist until the 20th century.

He is such an incompetent liar.

INC on October 10, 2012 at 9:02 PM

You are doubly correct.

He led his audience to believe that he was a modern day Tea Party patriot, (2 years before the formation of the modern Tea Party, ironically!), but what he was really connecting himself to was Trinity UCC and “Reverend” Jeremiah Wright, his “pastor” of 20+ years who:

1) Wants God to Damn America

2) Recognized Louis Farrakhan with a “Lifetime Achievement Award”

3) Co-authored a book praising Louis Farrakhan’s “Million Man March”

4) Published pro-Palestinian articles in the church’s newsletter. (see “Open Letter to Oprah from Ali Baghdadi on Her Visit to Palestine”, published on the “Pastor’s Pages” here)

5) Didn’t appear to shed a tear when talking about his murdered choir director (and Obama associate) Donald Young.

ITguy on October 10, 2012 at 9:16 PM

“This is one of the worst cover-ups in the history of this Republic”

……Liz Cheney on Hannity 10/10/2012

JPeterman on October 10, 2012 at 9:21 PM

+infinity EG @8:13

cmsinaz on October 10, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Allen West, Allen West… Please report to the front of the class and pick up your vindication badge.

Michelle Bachmann, Michelle Bachmann… Please report to the front of the class and pick up your vindication badge.

Key West Reader on October 10, 2012 at 9:23 PM

HILL. A. REE.

HILL. A. REE.

/Wherefore art thou, Dearest Hillary? Not answering the 3am telephone call?

You plutocrats are all complete frauds and you should be ashamed of yourselves. At least show your face with your side kick Huma from the Umma and her 1/2 d*cked twitter happy beard of a husband.

Key West Reader on October 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM

“This is one of the worst cover-ups in the history of this Republic”

……Liz Cheney on Hannity 10/10/2012

JPeterman on October 10, 2012 at 9:21 PM

Did she mean in terms of what it was supposed to cover up or the amateurishness of the cover-up or both?

And, I think the real cover-up has to do with what Ambassador Stevens was doing in Benghazi on the anniversary of 9/11 in the first place and not in what the administration did/said/knew after the attack.

Why would he go to a known hotbed of Islamic terrorism on the anniversary of 9/11 when he was in fear of his life and had little to no security?

Who supplied the weapons used by the terrorists?

Were they stamped with “Liberation brought to you by Barack Hussein Obama!”? (I’m only half-snarking)

Didn’t we get involved in Libya to save the “poor rebels,” many who were known to be members of LIFG, in Benghazi?

Was he there in an attempt to recover those weapons because the administration/intelligence had learned that they had “fallen into the hands” of Al Qaeda?

Resist We Much on October 10, 2012 at 9:31 PM

+infinity EG @8:13

cmsinaz on October 10, 2012 at 9:22 PM

cmsinaz:A-Stink’nMen:)

canopfor on October 10, 2012 at 9:32 PM

I am still so upset by this. Tomorrow, it will be 1 month that my son is still consoling his g/f that she realized she’d been used by the dem party, and while that’s an awakening unto itself, it’s still a sad day in my little world, and America.

How dare any federal government outright lie to its citizenry about anything, let alone a terror attack on its soil.

Not only hasn’t he the ability to lead, he hasn’t the cojones nor the desire (and don’t give me the line about bin laden being dead-any American president would have ordered the same ‘hit.’) It is despicable in a ‘commander-in-chief’ to tout it It’s as if
he, Obama, the C-i-C despises his foremost role, under the U.S. Constitution. I cannot blame 2/3rds of active and retired military seemingly wanting to vote for Governor Romney.

I question why so many states with early voting, lax registration, etc. wouldn’t want their state voting roles to reflect their constituencies–are those State Secretaries in the Soros-funded cabal?

It’s becoming clear to me, we need to take the states, as well :)

jersey taxpayer on October 10, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Resist We Much on October 10, 2012 at 9:31 PM

All good questions RSM, and we will never know the truth. I have my theories but I don’t look good in tinfoil hats.

JPeterman on October 10, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Allen West, Allen West… Please report to the front of the class and pick up your vindication badge.

Michelle Bachmann, Michelle Bachmann… Please report to the front of the class and pick up your vindication badge.

Key West Reader on October 10, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Bachmann –> Intelligence Committee & Boehner: SITYS.

They know she was right, and she knows that they know she was right.

INC on October 10, 2012 at 9:42 PM

All good questions RSM, and we will never know the truth. I have my theories but I don’t look good in tinfoil hats.

JPeterman on October 10, 2012 at 9:40 PM

No tinfoil hat required. Stevens believed that he was on an AQ hit list. So why would he go to the hometown of AQ on the anniversary of AQ’s biggest day in history with little to no security?

It’s like if you were on a Mexican drug cartel’s hit list and you decided to go to the kingpin’s hometown on his birthday wearing a bull’s eye shirt when there’s a planned fiesta. What more could you do to “ask for it”? Send an engraved invitation?

Resist We Much on October 10, 2012 at 9:49 PM

What more could you do to “ask for it”? Send an engraved invitation?

Silly me. I already know the answer:

Have your own government supply the cartel with the weapon to kill you!

Resist We Much on October 10, 2012 at 9:50 PM

My own personal SQUIRREL! moment: why cover up? The press has your back. Why cover up?

It gets worse every day. I just saw the interview with Sean Smith’s mother. Why include the cover up info in “consoling” the grieving families?

Who is responsible for the security problems? Who created the youtube narrative?

tuffy on October 10, 2012 at 9:51 PM

Resist We Much on October 10, 2012 at 9:31 PM

All good questions RSM, and we will never know the truth. I have my theories but I don’t look good in tinfoil hats.

JPeterman on October 10, 2012 at 9:40 PM

I went into that territory for the first time in my life :) and .I normally the one who derides people for their tin hats :)…but there’s no way in heck those navy seals were there for some ‘forced’ decommissioning, recoup/retrieve some weapons, etc..you don’t send a bunch of navy seals for that, how effective is it? It is ridiculous…

jimver on October 10, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Rep. Eleanor Norton: “I agree with Mr. Chaffetz that perhaps, had there been more resources, we might have had a different result, but I must note that while the Republican budget increases the budget of the defense department, it slashes the budget that would have protected these diplomats.”
by matthew.keys 12:30 PM

And was it not possible, Rep. Eleanor Norton, to move personnel from less critical areas around the globe to a place like Behghazi, where the conditions were increasingly volatile? Or would you prefer to play partisan politics with this deadly tragedy?

Take this all the way back to the push that Samantha Powers, Susan Rice, and Hillary Clinton played in pushing for the intervention in Libya. Those three harpies, along with Obysmal the Destroyer, raised a hornets’ nest in an area rife with AlQaeda “rebels.”

onlineanalyst on October 10, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Another keeps rolling through my head… why haven’t we blown anything up over there yet?

Everyone realizes that the entire ME – the entire world – watched that happened, turned towards the US to see the reaction, and… our friends must despair, while our enemies have been further emboldened.

Midas on October 10, 2012 at 10:08 PM

This story is getting uglier by the hour.

Still waiting for somebody to tell me what Hillary Rodham Clinton’s qualifications were to be the Junior Senator from New York, much less Secretary of State.

Del Dolemonte on October 10, 2012 at 10:16 PM

because Hillary has real combat experience unlike this gentleman ?

burrata on October 10, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Yes! The Tuzla Hustle!

bofh on October 10, 2012 at 10:20 PM

I went into that territory for the first time in my life :) and .I normally the one who derides people for their tin hats :)…but there’s no way in heck those navy seals were there for some ‘forced’ decommissioning, recoup/retrieve some weapons, etc..you don’t send a bunch of navy seals for that, how effective is it? It is ridiculous…

jimver on October 10, 2012 at 9:53 PM

They were not with the Seals. They were former seals and were with a private security firm. Also, they were across town and came to the Ambassador’s defence when they heard that the consulate was under attack. They were not part of his detail.

I’m not a conspiracy theorist…well, I’ve never been into any or called one. I don’t believe in the second gunman on the grassy knoll. I do believe the Neil Armstrong landed on Mars the Moon (sorry, my Sheila Jackson-Lee braids got too tight for a moment). I don’t believe that the Clintons murdered Vince Foster. I don’t believe that Bush or the Mossad was behind 9/11-I. I don’t believe that Trig Palin is Bristol Palin’s son. &c.

The question still remains: Why was Stevens in Benghazi on the anniversary of 9/11-I with little to no security when the consulate (really a villa that had been granted a “waiver” on security requirements) was unsecured and given that the city is THE area for AQ in Libya and the ambassador believed his life was in grave danger?

Why was he not at the more secure embassy in Tripoli?

Did he go to Benghazi to meet anyone? If so, who?

Resist We Much on October 10, 2012 at 10:23 PM

I went into that territory for the first time in my life :) and .I normally the one who derides people for their tin hats :)…but there’s no way in heck those navy seals were there for some ‘forced’ decommissioning, recoup/retrieve some weapons, etc..you don’t send a bunch of navy seals for that, how effective is it? It is ridiculous…

jimver on October 10, 2012 at 9:53 PM

How likely is it that “the rebels” (whoever they are) would be willing to give back a bunch of first-class, first-world weaponry? Not without an enormous amount of quid pro quo. So what was Amb. Stevens bargaining with? CIA funny money? Obama’s stash?

The whole small-time, no-talent operations has the same sort of stench about it as your typical drug deal gone bad. Complete with an old DC-3, for God’s sake. (and yes, I’m looking at you, Gen Petraeus).

bofh on October 10, 2012 at 10:28 PM

If personnel like Wood knew it was terrorism and the State Department allegedly never concluded that there was a protest in front of the consulate, why was Hillary talking about an “awful Internet video” in the aftermath?

For the same reason Petraeus was. They are both liars.

VorDaj on October 10, 2012 at 10:41 PM

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