Romney up 2 in new national poll from … Daily Kos?

posted at 12:01 pm on October 9, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

I have to give Markos Moulitsas credit for posting this result.  He could have taken the easy way out and had PPP release it independently.  And looking within the depths of this poll result, you have to know how much it pained him to follow through on the likely-voter survey Markos commissioned (via Twitchy):

The candidates for President are Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Mitt Romney. If the election was today, who would you vote for?

Obama 47 (49)
Romney 49 (45)

That’s a pretty disastrous six-point net swing in just a week, and the first time we’ve ever had Romney in the lead. It is inline with all other national polling showing Romney making gains in the wake of his debate performance last week.

The sample is a D+3, which is on its own a reasonable model for the turnout in four weeks, but the D/R/I is 40/37/23.  That significantly undersamples independents, which becomes an issue when one sees how independents break out in the election.  Romney has a six-point lead among independents, 48/42, and that low number for Obama will become a real problem in four weeks, as late deciders usually break hard for the challenger and away from the incumbent.  Independents disapprove of Obama’s job performance by a wide margin, 34/55 (he’s at 43/53 in the overall survey), and the Democratic Party doesn’t fare well among indies either, with a 33/50 approval rating — which is, to be fair, about identical to how they view the GOP, too (33/51).  By an even wider margin, likely independent voters believe the country is on the “wrong track,” 29/62.  Those are not re-elect numbers for an incumbent who won independents by eight points in 2008.

The gender numbers aren’t looking particularly good for Obama, either.  In 2008, he won women by 13 points and edged John McCain among men by one, for a total gender gap of 14 points.  In the new PPP/dKos poll, Obama only leads among women by six, and trails among men by twelve.  That’s a -6 overall gender gap for Obama, and a 20-point reversal from 2008 … with only four weeks left to go.  Romney’s winning every income demographic except those making less than $30,000 a year, in which he’s only down by 15 points.

Most importantly, Romney’s leading in the swing states identified by PPP/dKos by five points, 51/46.  That may not be very solid — it looks like PPP used subsamples of their polling, which means the samples for those swing states had to be pretty small — but it’s not a pleasant result for Team Obama or the readers of dKos, either.  The independent demos will be more of an indicator as to what’s coming.  If Romney has a six-point lead among independents in a cycle where Republican enthusiasm is now significantly outstripping Democratic enthusiasm, Romney’s going to do better than a +2.


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R squared just needs to keep it up for 2 more debates. They can tie the third.

Zaggs on October 9, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Since when is Ed on a first-name basis with the low-life Moulitsas?

Norwegian on October 9, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Our emperor has been exposed without clothes. That was all it took for the house of cards to start falling.

gatorboy on October 9, 2012 at 12:04 PM

There is only so much decline you can hide.

The Obama campaign is starting to give off an odor of “Death.”

portlandon on October 9, 2012 at 12:05 PM

One of the best things about HotAir is how the writers here avoid the heavy handed Pravda style writing you find at DailyKos. I don’t need to see every mention of Obama come with an insult as you find at DailyKos when Romney is mentioned.

thuja on October 9, 2012 at 12:06 PM

One debate destroy $200 million in negative ads.
If Romney lied you would see ads with before and after statements from Romney. They could make him look like an idiot.

The emperor has no clothes and the curtain is coming down.

The Rock on October 9, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Perhaps this is just an orchestrated effort to set up the “come-back” meme in a week or so.

tommyboy on October 9, 2012 at 12:06 PM

If it’s a PPP poll you can add about 5% more for Romney.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on October 9, 2012 at 12:06 PM

purpose: drive up dem intensity. thats all. the truth can finally be told now that the fake polls have failed to damper GOP intensity.

t8stlikchkn on October 9, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Rasmussen:

Election 2012: Nevada President
Nevada: Obama 47%, Romney 45%

steebo77 on October 9, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Not a fusion weapon…but at least a tactical nuke? A suitcase bomb, anyway?

MidniteRambler on October 9, 2012 at 12:08 PM

It ain’t over until a certain lady’s (term used avisedly) fat rear end exits the White House.

Stay focused, don’t get cocky and let’s bring this administration to a close.

natasha333 on October 9, 2012 at 12:08 PM

I’m so excited-this is the first silver lining in the 4 yr dark cloud of the Obama presidency.

I know Romney is a bit of a wishy-washy guy, but he’s a million times better than that terrorist-lover Obowma.

All Romney has to do is keep up the momentum, increase the attack ads, keep hammering Obama on many of his glaring weaknesses like the economy and foreign policy and he’ll win.

thinkagain on October 9, 2012 at 12:08 PM

This will be one heII of a troll thread./

Bmore on October 9, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Feel the Mittmentum!

myiq2xu on October 9, 2012 at 12:08 PM

The lefty Borg trolls are going back to Axelturd central to get their new “massage the disaster” talking points.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on October 9, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Rush warning to stay away from tall buildings in liberal cities!

Happy Nomad on October 9, 2012 at 12:09 PM

He’s peaking too soon!!!

/pessimist in me

SouthernGent on October 9, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Yet still Mitt won’t say he’ll even slow down government spending. He wants to “grow” his way out of it.

How’s that working for France and Greece, by the way?

As one of those who is not committed, I still don’t think I’ll be pulling the R lever. I truly don’t see much difference between the policies of the two candidates.

Wino on October 9, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Last week I predicted Romney by 3% this week, I am a little off, but given the independents, probably more like 4%.

Next week I predicted 3-5%…and, depending on the debates, a final of around 6-8% win by Romney.

Assuming no major gaffs, and I don’t think that will happen…it’s all over for Obama, the question is, how soon does the DNC start shifting money to the Senate and House seats to maintain at least one or both houses?

I say Obama has 7 days to make some changes, or they pull funding and ads…

right2bright on October 9, 2012 at 12:10 PM

I just don’t see how Barry can turn this around with the second debate town hall format, and the third one on foreign policy certainly won’t do him any favors.

a capella on October 9, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Cost per/hour operating Air Force One- $1M
Campaign ads to smear the competition-$200M
Effects of a Presidential debate gone bad- Priceless (for the opponent)

Happy Nomad on October 9, 2012 at 12:12 PM

If it’s a PPP poll you can add about 5% more for Romney.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on October 9, 2012 at 12:06 PM

A college prof conservative friend of mine conducted a regression analysis; the exact PPP bias is 3 percent for the Ds.

matthew8787 on October 9, 2012 at 12:13 PM

I just don’t see how Barry can turn this around with the second debate town hall format, and the third one on foreign policy certainly won’t do him any favors.

a capella on October 9, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Obama can’t but the rat-eared coward won’t be doing this alone. He will have the whole MSM doing the heavy lifting and setting the narrative of “comeback kid.”

Happy Nomad on October 9, 2012 at 12:13 PM

From HotAir Headlines:

Sesame Street to Obama campaign: Take down the Big Bird ad

LOL.

Obama just got PWNED by a 12 foot empty Yellow Bird suit.

portlandon on October 9, 2012 at 12:13 PM

I think the Biden-Ryan debate is going to “seal the deal”, it will show that the 0bama regime is run by idiots without a clue.

Rebar on October 9, 2012 at 12:14 PM

As one of those who is not committed, I still don’t think I’ll be pulling the R lever. I truly don’t see much difference between the policies of the two candidates.

Wino on October 9, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Of course you don’t…that would take some analysis and thinking on your part…so it’s just easy to say “I don’t see much difference”…that statement alone shows how little you know about what is happening, about the different policies.

A child thinks a sparrow and a eagle are the same because they are both birds…you are thinking like a child, I suggest you actually do some reading.

It’s inconceivable to me that someone can’t see the difference. But then, Obama got elected by someone…

right2bright on October 9, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Wino on October 9, 2012 at 12:10 PM

From “stop the bleeding ” central.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on October 9, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Isn’t it about time for Team Zero to roll out the Hugo Chavez endorsement? Maybe put a few tanks in the street too.

Demonized on October 9, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Perhaps this is just an orchestrated effort to set up the “come-back” meme in a week or so.

I thought of this too. And notice all the references to President Reagan’s first debate in 1984 coming from the Obamanauts.

The problem for the left is that they have spent over four years years telling us Barry was the smartest, most articulate, most cerebral, most quick-witted president ever, and the greatest orator of our time, a veritable Pericles of the modern age.

Now, for the comeback meme to work, the left has to tear down the mythical Obama they spent five years building up in time for the next debate.

President Reagan’s comeback in 1984 worked not only because he did much better against Mondale the second time around, but because the media had spent twenty years portraying him as evil or stupid. It is far easier for President Reagan to overcome those expectations than for the petulant light-weight Obama that was exposed last week to live up to the billing created for him by his allies in the media and Democratic Party.

MidniteRambler on October 9, 2012 at 12:14 PM

As one of those who is not committed, I still don’t think I’ll be pulling the R lever. I truly don’t see much difference between the policies of the two candidates.

Wino on October 9, 2012 at 12:10 PM

A wise and rational choice. You have obviously been keeping a close eye on the Obama presidency for the last 4 years and are happy with his plans for the next 4.

a capella on October 9, 2012 at 12:15 PM

There are many, many challenging days ahead. This campaign is just beginning. I am worried that we haven’t heard the RR-RNC financial haul for September; the $181 million reported from Obama is scary.

matthew8787 on October 9, 2012 at 12:15 PM

As one of those who is not committed, I still don’t think I’ll be pulling the R lever. I truly don’t see much difference between the policies of the two candidates.

Wino on October 9, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Then you really aren’t uncommitted you are a leftist. Because the differences between the two candidates are quite clear. Just look at Romney’s speech at VMI yesterday. He clearly points out how he would do foreign policy differently.

Happy Nomad on October 9, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Obama campaign begins to panic.

Report: Shake-Up in Works at Obama Campaign Headquarters

“I’m hearing chatter that there’s maybe some people from the last campaign that’s maybe going to get a little more involved,” said Todd.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/report-possible-campaign-shake-obama-campaign-headquarters_654004.html

sentinelrules on October 9, 2012 at 12:16 PM

A wise and rational choice. You have obviously been keeping a close eye on the Obama presidency for the last 4 years and are happy with his plans for the next 4.

a capella on October 9, 2012 at 12:15 PM

It’s just a feeble desperate Moby post.
Note the link from it’s screen name.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on October 9, 2012 at 12:17 PM

One debate destroy $200 million in negative ads.

The Rock on October 9, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Why would anyone give any more money to Obama? :)

faraway on October 9, 2012 at 12:17 PM

He’s peaking too soon!!!

/pessimist in me

SouthernGent on October 9, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Just 4 weeks to go…funny a few weeks ago many were saying he wasn’t attacking and “politicking” enough…now that he is making a surge to the finish, it’s “too early”.

Romney stay on course, Obama continues to flail…actually Romney is just staying the course…but his speech yesterday laid down the groundwork for the next debate. Romney is now controlling the direction of the campaign.

With just 4 weeks left, he has taken over the campaign, and dictating the debate…masterful.

right2bright on October 9, 2012 at 12:18 PM

As one of those who is not committed, I still don’t think I’ll be pulling the R lever. I truly don’t see much difference between the policies of the two candidates.

Wino on October 9, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Aww, when did axelturd central unleash this troll on us? When we were busy ignoring the pokemewithapoll one?

jimver on October 9, 2012 at 12:18 PM

If Romney is up 2 in a Daily Kos/SEIU poll, then he must be like 30 points ahead in reality – at least!

SMELLS like a LANDSLIDE!

Pork-Chop on October 9, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Ed, I have visited Daily Kos and I would say that Kos posted this as a wake-up call.

They can’t have their own hype have themselves sleep-walking through the stretch.

This was a necessary motivator for their activists at Kos. They are different than their broader base who needs to be told they are winning to show up.

Conan on October 9, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Im stil gonna be a nervous wreck until the election is called for Romney on election day. But i gotta admit, Im feeling pretty good right now!

Jack_Burton on October 9, 2012 at 12:21 PM

I think the Biden-Ryan debate is going to “seal the deal”, it will show that the 0bama regime is run by idiots without a clue.

Rebar on October 9, 2012 at 12:14 PM

On a VP debate? I think the deal will be open until at least the next Presidential debate. Remember that’s the format Obama thrives in.

ABC News is talking about how much more combative Obama will be next time. Which I think is a mistake because Obama’s strength has been his likeability.

I’m not giddy yet but cautiously optimistic.

Happy Nomad on October 9, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Yet still Mitt won’t say he’ll even slow down government spending. He wants to “grow” his way out of it.

How’s that working for France and Greece, by the way?

As one of those who is not committed, I still don’t think I’ll be pulling the R lever. I truly don’t see much difference between the policies of the two candidates.

Wino on October 9, 2012 at 12:10 PM

The link goes to fauxnews.org. This means the troll bashers have our first customer!

Sekhmet on October 9, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Perhaps this is just an orchestrated effort to set up the “come-back” meme in a week or so.

tommyboy on October 9, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Thats the only shot they have left.
Expect the Townhall Debate to be loaded with lefties asking Romney..”So you want to start another war???”………”What do you think of global warming deniers, and what is your plan to stop agw so the children can live”??..”Is Mormonism a cult?”..etc.

Mimzey on October 9, 2012 at 12:22 PM

He’s peaking too soon!!!

/pessimist in me

SouthernGent on October 9, 2012 at 12:09 PM

No, I think he is peaking just right.

Look at the long term poll average on RCP. While the race has see-sawed for months, Romney’s trajectory is a very solid but slow upward trend.

Obama has peaked at 49% twice in the past 6 months, for so to slowly descend to aorund 44-45%. Right now he is on a descent which will still be in effect come November 6th.

Norwegian on October 9, 2012 at 12:23 PM

OBAMA setting stage to back out of debates?

Axelrod should be asked by the media…….oh wait what am I saying?……the media ask a tough question?

PappyD61 on October 9, 2012 at 12:23 PM

“Yet still Mitt won’t say he’ll even slow down government spending. He wants to “grow” his way out of it.”

Wino

Pretty sure he has said he would take the budget down to 20-25% of GDP. By the debt clock spending is at 41% of GDP.

Zaggs on October 9, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Correction:

Election 2012: Nevada President
Nevada: Obama 47%, Romney 47%

steebo77 on October 9, 2012 at 12:24 PM

GOOD THING team Super Mitt didnt Shake up their Campaign staff strategy ?

Don’t you agree Peggy ?

Just nay-sayin.

FlaMurph on October 9, 2012 at 12:26 PM

He’s peaking too soon!!!

/pessimist in me

SouthernGent on October 9, 2012 at 12:09 PM

No, why, I think it’s about the right time, less than a month…what obama has left in his arsenal?? More big birds?…if romney trailed longer in the polls,, he might not have had literally enough time to recoup/carch up…at least now we know it will be kinda tied all this time until the election…historically they say that the few undecideds left by hat time (4-5 %)break for the challenger…we can only hope at this point…and don’t forget that the FP debate with all the mentions of Benghazi and ME failed policies that candy eye got a pass from the media on – is coming…

jimver on October 9, 2012 at 12:26 PM

Romney is going to take FL, CO, OH, NV

MI, PA are also in play!

nitzsche on October 9, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Once the media has to start saving their sorry reputations, and not being able to make up numbers, Romney will start looking likely to destroy Obama.

As I have said for months, when all is said and done, Romney will win by 5, with 300 electoral votes, and Republicans will add to their numbers in the House, and get to 53-55 votes in the Senate.

milcus on October 9, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Mitt’s really making me rethink my hardcore pessimism.

Great debate performance.
Has already exceeded my 5-8 point swing expectations.
Is hammering the President where he needs to.
Great foreign policy speech to blunt/follow up dubious UE numbers on Friday.

Who is this guy?

Whoever he is, they need to get the old guy locked in a closet…for good.

newtopia on October 9, 2012 at 12:30 PM

From HotAir Headlines:

Sesame Street to Obama campaign: Take down the Big Bird ad

LOL.

Obama just got PWNED by a 12 foot empty Yellow Bird suit.

portlandon on October 9, 2012 at 12:13 PM

I think the brainiacs (sarc) at PBS are reading the tea leaves and panicking. They don’t want Obama linked to one of their major brands — makes it so much easier for Republicans to decide to cut all funding to PBS if PBS is seen as actively campaigning for the Big O. (I wonder if Sesame Street is prepared to ditch all those episodes where they slobbered all over Mooch?)

Also interesting: Isn’t Sesame Street the third organization or company to order the Obama campaign to drop all advertising connecting O to them? Rats fleeing the sinking ship, frantically trying to cover their sorry butts?

catsandbooks on October 9, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Watch out for some type of military operation and announcement that will “prove” he is presidential. They will use the military ,trust me.

retiredeagle on October 9, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Romney is going to take FL, CO, OH, NV

MI, PA are also in play!

nitzsche on October 9, 2012 at 12:28 PM

I live in CO, there is no doubt that Romney will win this state. It won’t even be close.

Norwegian on October 9, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Yet still Mitt won’t say he’ll even slow down government spending. He wants to “grow” his way out of it.

How’s that working for France and Greece, by the way?

As one of those who is not committed, I still don’t think I’ll be pulling the R lever. I truly don’t see much difference between the policies of the two candidates.

Wino on October 9, 2012 at 12:10 PM

As one of those who can see the difference between someone who cares about America and Americans, and someone who sees America as just another country, at best, or who flat out dislikes/hates America, at worst, I truly see that you are an idiot.

OneFreeMan on October 9, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Feel the Mittmentum!

myiq2xu on October 9, 2012 at 12:08 PM

.
The Rominator…. is on the Job.

FlaMurph on October 9, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Hey, this is a poll thread.

Where’s pokedinmygummy????

BigWyo on October 9, 2012 at 12:34 PM

As one of those who is not committed, I still don’t think I’ll be pulling the R lever. I truly don’t see much difference between the policies of the two candidates.

Wino on October 9, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Obvious Moby is obvious.

MidniteRambler on October 9, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Two thoughts …

1) It’s interesting how Romney came up with about four ways he would cut the deficit, including a) Reforming the safety net for future generations b) More affordable block grants to states c) Combining federal agencies and reducing the number of federal employees through attrition; and d) Cutting unneccessary programs that aren’t essential and aren’t worth borrowing money from China to fund, including PBS and Obamacare.

But the liberals focus only on BIG BIRD … not the other areas Mitt mentioned. They are in fact misleading people about his “BIG IDEA” to reduce the deficit. He is proposing more specifics than any presidential candidate in recent memory.

2) I think Team Obama’s focus on “Mitt lied about his tax plan” is going to backfire. (It already has.) And that is because Obama comes across as a fear-mongerer with no plan of his own, other than raising taxes. Even people who are not political junkies might start to say … Ok, wait, our economy is bad, Mitt Romney has made some proposals … what exactly is the President’s plan to grow jobs?

If Obama’s only tactic is to attack Mitt as Bush III, it won’t work. Because the economy is not strong enough to justify four more years of Obamanomics. Obama is running like it’s 1984 … It’s 1979.

Nicole Coulter on October 9, 2012 at 12:36 PM

Great foreign policy speech to blunt/follow up dubious UE numbers on Friday.

newtopia on October 9, 2012 at 12:30 PM

I wasn’t so sure about a debate bounce but that followed by unemployment numbers that were so clearly rejected as being true really blunted Obama’s ability to convey the idea that his “ideas” are working. Yesterday’s foreign policy speech seemed Presidential. And how is team rat-ears responding? Big Bird and Obamaphone. Oh! and the liar liar pants on fire strategy.

Happy Nomad on October 9, 2012 at 12:37 PM

He’s peaking too soon!!!

/pessimist in me

SouthernGent on October 9, 2012 at 12:09 PM

You think this is a peak? No way, this is still charging up the hill.

Mitsouko on October 9, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Thursday debate prediction:
Ryan will hold his own.
If Biden does well, it’s ‘Oh my g-d, even Biden is better than Obama’.
If Biden does not, it’s ‘Oh my g-d, they both s-ck’.

Winning!

Carnac on October 9, 2012 at 12:38 PM

4 weeks from today the land will send Obama to HI, mocked into oblivion, so as to not repeat the hoax/pox upon the land. At that moment the hard work begins in earnest. Taking out the mess will be hard and keeping an eye on Romney will be too.

Keeping more than that toward the desperate and desolate media and lefties…

Schadenfreude on October 9, 2012 at 12:38 PM

As one of those who is not committed, I still don’t think I’ll be pulling the R lever. I truly don’t see much difference between the policies of the two candidates.

Wino on October 9, 2012 at 12:10 PM

…maybe you need to start drinking something else beside Boonesfarm and Mogen David!

KOOLAID2 on October 9, 2012 at 12:39 PM

I don’t give any credit for releasing this poll. Obama committed the ultimate sin and that was to make these people look stupid for supporting him and making them a laughing stock. They could get around credibility and bias issues, but don’t insult their so-called intelligence.

lea on October 9, 2012 at 12:39 PM

I’ve looked through the responses, and apparently, there’s only ad hominem and ignorance. I did, though, catch a trace of ignorance and ad hominem, instead.

I’ll repeat my main point. I’m typing very slowly, since most of you apparently cannot read quickly:

“Yet still Mitt won’t say he’ll even slow down government spending. He wants to ‘grow’ his way out of it.

“How’s that working for France and Greece, by the way?”

Let’s see if Mitt can spend $5 Trillion a year. He’s a republican. That makes it OK. Besides, it’s only government money. Not like it’s really important. And he’ll spend it on Defense, too.

Robots. No thought. Just do as you’re programmed. Question nothing. No thought allowed. Hot air has become the mirror to The Daily Kos. What’s left there is right here. And both equally partisan and stupid.

Enjoy your servitude. But it won’t be Obama.

And that makes it OK.

Wino on October 9, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Watch out for some type of military operation and announcement that will “prove” he is presidential. They will use the military ,trust me.

retiredeagle on October 9, 2012 at 12:33 PM

http://minx.cc/?post=333636

a capella on October 9, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Anybody seen the ABR’s these days? I love it when I pick a winning horse! I’ve been with Romney from the beginning and he’s taking it to Obama like I knew he would.

Keep it up Mitt!

SauerKraut537 on October 9, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Economy and foreign policy leads, dead. They were always hypes.

Schadenfreude on October 9, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Wino on October 9, 2012 at 12:40 PM

It must be tough to have your butt hurting so early in the day.

JPeterman on October 9, 2012 at 12:42 PM

As one of those who is not committed, I still don’t think I’ll be pulling the R lever. I truly don’t see much difference between the policies of the two candidates.

Wino on October 9, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Simple… one wants to raise taxes, one wants to lower taxes. So here are your questions…

1) Which candidate is advocating which policy?
2) Which policy will grow the economy and which one will shrink the economy?
3) When you grow the economy do you get more or less tax revenue?
4) When you shrink the economy do you get more or less tax revenue?

When you can honestly answer those questions, you’ll know the difference between candidates and then you can decide who to vote for. But lamenting that you’ve been led to water, and still refuse to drink, negates any excuse for being thirsty.

dominigan on October 9, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Anybody seen the ABR’s these days?

Still here…but softening after last week’s great debate performance.

newtopia on October 9, 2012 at 12:43 PM

President Reagan’s comeback in 1984 worked not only because he did much better against Mondale the second time around, but because the media had spent twenty years portraying him as evil or stupid. It is far easier for President Reagan to overcome those expectations than for the petulant light-weight Obama that was exposed last week to live up to the billing created for him by his allies in the media and Democratic Party.

MidniteRambler on October 9, 2012 at 12:14 PM

It also worked because Reagan didn’t need a great debate performance to win in 1984. He had a successful record to run on. Obama does not. The United States was in a far better place in 1984 than it is in 2012. There was no great groundswell for change. Things were going well.

Right Mover on October 9, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Wino on October 9, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Tokyo Rose called. She said you suck at this.

CurtZHP on October 9, 2012 at 12:43 PM

msdnc is funny to watch…they’ve always been look at this one poll, obama is going to win…yahoo

now, don’t look at one poll, look at the trend

highlarious

cmsinaz on October 9, 2012 at 12:44 PM

I will type even more slowly, since you are still an idiot, even when you try to pose as a reasonable debater. This …

Let’s see if Mitt can spend $5 Trillion a year.

… is based on a factually false assertion, that is, that Romney plans to cut marginal rates to 20% without offsetting reductions in deductions. And that makes it not OK. But do keep using it, it helps by clearly labeling you as less honest than Stephanie Cutter. Here’s a helpful clue – Andrea Mitchell saying something is not a safe indicator of its validity.

OneFreeMan on October 9, 2012 at 12:45 PM

KOOLAID2 on October 9, 2012 at 12:39 PM

holy macaroni….

i can’t believe there are still undecideds out there…are they not living in the real world?

cmsinaz on October 9, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Enjoy your servitude. But it won’t be Obama.

And that makes it OK.

Wino on October 9, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Obama will destroy the land with lightening speed, down the abyss, especially unrestrained in his 2nd term, with the arrogance of having won (NO, he won’t win).

Romney will put the breaks on the demise…the US is still in the final days of Rome, but she’ll last a bit longer.

Obama hates his land, Romney loves her.

Your/our job will be to keep him straight.

Obama must go!!!

Schadenfreude on October 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM

OUCH…!

Seven Percent Solution on October 9, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Wino on October 9, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Wino, this isn’t your trip here to “raise concerns”. 0bviously you imbibed too much 0bamawine while trolling with your 0bamaphone.

Some of us here remember your particular stench from your earlier rantings.

cozmo on October 9, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Wino on October 9, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Where are you getting the $5 trillion number from? If you’re reciting the Obama talking point, it’s already been proven a lie. The Obama team took the analysis from a Princeton economics professor and bungled the results. The professor called them out on it. And even CNN called out Obama’s spokeswoman on this very lie. This has been documented on HotAir over the last few days.

France and Greece claim they are trying to grow their way out of it, but the problem is… THEY AREN’T. They’re trying to BORROW their way out of it. You can’t do that. Only by lowering taxes and reducing regulations that impede business will you encourage business expansion. Business expansion leads to jobs, which are taxed, and ultimately more tax revenue. France and Greece have not reduced taxes, nor reduced regulations, so of course they can’t grow out of it.

If you think this was a ROBOT post, then so be it.

dominigan on October 9, 2012 at 12:49 PM

As one of those who is not committed, I still don’t think I’ll be pulling the R lever. I truly don’t see much difference between the policies of the two candidates.

Wino on October 9, 2012 at 12:10 PM

So buy yourself a bottle of white (not red, like Republican states), get yourself sloshed on November 6 and drink a toast to the winner!

Steve Z on October 9, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Wino, before you spew inanities.

Schadenfreude on October 9, 2012 at 12:52 PM

OBAMA setting stage to back out of debates?

Axelrod should be asked by the media…….oh wait what am I saying?……the media ask a tough question?

PappyD61 on October 9, 2012 at 12:23 PM

I think there’s a good possibility that the Empty Chair will find a reason (i.e. personal health, national security, etc.) to back out of the third debate.

Right Mover on October 9, 2012 at 12:53 PM

I think this big bird thing is not going away hahaha

Conservative4ev on October 9, 2012 at 12:59 PM

The best part of all these polls is every news organization except FluffPo is running this poll surge story today; FluffPo is going with some Rebellion in the Romney Campaign story. HA!

reddevil on October 9, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Wino on October 9, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Perhaps you missed watching the debate.
Let me enlighten you.

Romney said:
I will eliminate all programs by this test, if they don’t pass it, “Is the program so critical it’s worth borrowing money from China to pay for it” and if not I’ll get rid of it.

Carnac on October 9, 2012 at 1:01 PM

So where’s gumby?

wargamer6 on October 9, 2012 at 1:01 PM

OT: Gallup likely voters: R +2

wargamer6 on October 9, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Via the Count from Sesame Street…268…269…270 electoral votes for Mitt Romney..Ah ah ah ah ah (cue thunder and lighting)

msupertas on October 9, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Why hasn’t RCP added this poll into their average?

COgirl on October 9, 2012 at 1:16 PM

BTW, Gallup is reporting likely voters now.

COgirl on October 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM

wargamer6 on October 9, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Seeking comfort among the like non-minded.

cozmo on October 9, 2012 at 1:19 PM

In today’s headlines:

1. New polling, across the spectrum, indicates Obama is losing.
2. In foreign policy speech, Mitt Romney stepped up his criticism of President Obama’s foreign policy and his handling of hot spots in the Middle East, as he aimed to show a contrast with his rival on Iran, Libya and Syria.
3. The Institute for Science and International Security says Iran could produce a nuclear warhead within 2-4 months.
4. U.S., Israel considering joint ‘surgical strike’ on Iran’s nuclear facilities.

Prediction if #1 above continues:
Bombs begin dropping before November 6th.

Carnac on October 9, 2012 at 1:20 PM

I’m typing very slowly, since most of you apparently cannot read quickly:

I suppose in the bizzaro world you live in that statement actually makes sense.

eyedoc on October 9, 2012 at 1:25 PM

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