On eve of House hearings, State Department finally admits: No, there was never any protest outside the Benghazi consulate before the attack

posted at 8:41 pm on October 9, 2012 by Allahpundit

If you’ve been following the news about Benghazi, you’ll have two questions after watching this clip. One: Didn’t we already know this? Answer: Yes, “we” did, but not because our government was eager for us to find out. McClatchy published an interview with a Libyan guard wounded in the attack just two days after it happened in which he claimed that there was never any protest. Four days later, Fox News was hearing the same thing from an intelligence source on the ground. Four days after that, Eli Lake of Newsweek reported that there was intelligence early on that the attack was planned and that an Al Qaeda affiliate was involved. Right around the same time, Jay Carney started segueing from the White House’s initial ludicrous “spontaneous protest over the Mohammed movie” narrative to a “yes, of course this was a terrorist attack” admission. Not until tonight, though, I believe, did Chris Stevens’s superiors at State think to politely inform the public — not to mention Carney — that, oh right, there was never a protest. Let the fingerpointing begin:

The State Department said Tuesday it never concluded that the consulate attack in Libya stemmed from protests over an American-made video ridiculing Islam, raising further questions about why the Obama administration used that explanation for more than a week after assailants killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans.

The revelation came as new documents suggested internal disagreement over appropriate levels of security before the attack, which occurred on the 11th anniversary of the Sept. 11 terror attacks on the U.S…

But asked about the administration’s initial – and since retracted – explanation linking the violence to protests over an anti-Muslim video circulating on the Internet, one official said, “That was not our conclusion.” He called it a question for “others” to answer, without specifying.

Which brings us to the second question: Why did it take a month for them to mention this? I have no answer, except to wonder whether they’d have ever admitted it if Issa hadn’t called House hearings this week. Tonight’s news is simply State’s way of pushing some anticipated heat off of itself and onto the White House before tomorrow’s grilling begins. It’s a comfort to know that nothing short of public humiliation by the opposition party could get them to share info about a terror attack that ended with an American ambassador being murdered.

Two new questions for you, then, as the hearings get going. First, if State didn’t circulate the “spontaneous protest” nonsense within the administration, who did? Eli Lake traced it back to a set of CIA talking points distributed to Congress early on, but as far as I know, no one’s ever explained why the CIA was pushing that theory when there were at least a dozen intel reports within the first hours pointing to something more sinister and deliberate. And second, if State was innocent in pushing the “spontaneous protest” line, how is it that Susan Rice — a top State Department employee, don’tcha know — ended up being the administration’s chief mouthpiece for that talking point on the Sunday shows? Didn’t anyone from State think of mentioning to her beforehand, “Oh, by the way, we have zero evidence to support what you’re about to go on national TV and say”?


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Bmore on October 9, 2012 at 9:27 PM

PolAgnostic on October 9, 2012 at 9:26 PM

You are missing snark but it’s my fault for not putting the sarc tag at the end. I am fine with Hillary throw Obama under the bus because it will ruin her in the process also. I consider it a twofer.

Cindy Munford on October 9, 2012 at 9:27 PM

A very insightful and fact filled retort VorDaj. Now, about those debating skills….? LOL.

ManWithNoParty on October 9, 2012 at 9:24 PM

What part of David Petraeus lying don’t you understand? He is the head of the CIA and had to know withing hours that the obscure video had little if anything to do with anything and at least 3 days later in what was likely sworn testimony before a congressional committee lied his teeth off.

VorDaj on October 9, 2012 at 9:28 PM

VorDaj on October 9, 2012 at 8:55 PM

With all the people involved with this, why are you trying to deflect attention away to the CIA director? Is it because all the people peripheral to YOUR presidential candidate of choice have a much greater hand in this?

Wake the f**k up. Obama screwed this one up, badly. Your pathetic, laughable, and embarrassing attempts to keep saying “look somewhere other than where the actual blame lies!!!” serve only to show just how hot the flames are in this trainwreck.

MadisonConservative on October 9, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Is there anybody in this government we can trust?

rplat on October 9, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Maybe not, but Clinton made government sexy again when he played saxophone on MTV.

John the Libertarian on October 9, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Well, this confirms that Dear Leader is going to strike some “responsible parties” before the election or before the last debate…

d1carter on October 9, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Big Bird

forest on October 9, 2012 at 9:30 PM

VorDaj on October 9, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Uh, the CIA is nothing but spooks. Spooks lie. It’s in their job qualifications. As a matter of fact, even when retired spooks lie.

I wouldn’t trust anything a spook told me unless I verified it myself.

platypus on October 9, 2012 at 9:30 PM

TXUS on October 9, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Then she reflects the beliefs of her boss which unfortunately 52% of the country didn’t believe or care that that is his position. Hopefully they know better.

Cindy Munford on October 9, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Don’t think we’ll see Carney until after the election…….

Starlink on October 9, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Isn’t that something! Everyone is in this administration is disappearing before our eyes!

esr1951 on October 9, 2012 at 9:31 PM

platypus on October 9, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Do you really believe anyone would try to impeach him? I think he’s too “historical”.

Cindy Munford on October 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM

FOX News had this on their website yesterday.

I commented on both occasions that the Clintonistas were hanging the SCOAMF et al out to twist in the wind.

PolAgnostic on October 9, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Nope, sorry, that’s not what is happening. What we are witnessing is a very complex bait and switch operation. Something took place in Libya prior to the attack in Benghazi, something very dark and malevolent that the State Department and the White House are working desperately and frantically to prevent coming to light.

Rumor has it that that something is that the State Department under orders from the White House was employing Ambassador Stevens as the primary negotiator and facilitator for a very large scale weapons transfer between the United States Government and the Muslim Brotherhood/Al Qaeda with an intended destination of Syria.

SWalker on October 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM

With all the people involved with this, why are you trying to deflect attention away to the CIA director? Is it because all the people peripheral to YOUR presidential candidate of choice have a much greater hand in this?

MadisonConservative on October 9, 2012 at 9:28 PM

I am concentrating on Petraeus because others won’t. If others were concentrating on him and leaving Obama out then I would concentrate on Obama.

VorDaj on October 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Everyone is in this administration is disappearing before our eyes!

esr1951 on October 9, 2012 at 9:31 PM

David Blaine, call your office.

platypus on October 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Do you really believe anyone would try to impeach him? I think he’s too “historical”.

Cindy Munford on October 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM

He’s not above the law, Cindy.

hawkdriver on October 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM

I have another question AP, why did the State Dept. exclude Fox from the “news” conference call? I assume they didn’t want anybody to ever hear about it.

Cindy Munford on October 9, 2012 at 8:47 PM

They apologized after it, but it was a shot across the bow. It was kind of like apologizing for that cough during your golf opponent’s swing.

slickwillie2001 on October 9, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Is it because all the people peripheral to YOUR presidential candidate of choice have a much greater hand in this?

MadisonConservative on October 9, 2012 at 9:28 PM

BTW, my Presidential candidate is Romney and was back in 2008 for that matter.

VorDaj on October 9, 2012 at 9:33 PM

:40 – Explains everything away by using the “video” as an excuse……
Hillary – it’s your bosses crappy policies…..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXmgCeONIsY

redguy on October 9, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Don’t tease me, any of these people being in a situation where they could commit perjury is too sweet to dream about.

Cindy Munford on October 9, 2012 at 9:17 PM

It wouldn’t be perjury because the statements weren’t given under oath, but imagine Big Sis saying to the public “oh no…it was all spontaneous” and then someone like Assange releases a cable from her clearly stating the opposite.

You can’t walk that back, and even Chrissy Matthews would have nothing to say in defense…..he just wouldn’t talk about it at all.

Rice = sacrificial anode.

BobMbx on October 9, 2012 at 9:34 PM

He’s not above the law, Cindy.

hawkdriver on October 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Unfortunately he apparently is. But at least, unlike Petraeus, he is not above criticism.

VorDaj on October 9, 2012 at 9:35 PM

hawkdriver on October 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM

You know it and I know it but I don’t have any confidence in the intestinal fortitude of anyone who ever needs a vote.

Cindy Munford on October 9, 2012 at 9:36 PM

I don’t understand why people want Amb. Rice to resign, she didn’t come up with any of this garbage. As a matter of fact, I can’t figure out why our representative to the U.N. was the one who went on all the Sunday shows. I have to assume short straw.

Cindy Munford on October 9, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Rice was stuck with the job because she’s can’t ever run for office. As long as little Bammie is in office she has a job, when he’s gone she’s gone too. Makes sense in a way.

slickwillie2001 on October 9, 2012 at 9:36 PM

I would not be surprised to see both Bill and Hillary turn on Obama soon.She will not take being hung out to dry on this.This maybe the Oct. surprise.

logman1 on October 9, 2012 at 9:36 PM

The Hill is reporting that Republicans sent a secret fact-finding group to Libya before the hearings and the Democrats are furious about it.

HopeHeFails on October 9, 2012 at 9:36 PM

INC on October 9, 2012 at 9:18 PM

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If you click on the link and read the full FOX article, this Under Secretary of State of Management who did the conference call on September 12th is likely the person directly responsible for the consulate’s security at his level.

He made CLEAR to Capitol Hill on the evening of September 12th that the weapons used and the ferocity of the attack indicated this was not an outgrowth of a spontaneous protest.

THIS article would be the reason for the DoS excluding FOX from tonight’s conference call. FOX was too likely to ask embarrassing questions based on what they know from the September 12th conference call.

The State Department is huge. Shrillery “signing off” on an individual locations security is not plausible. Between embassies and consulates we must have nearly 1,000 facilities on a global basis.

PolAgnostic on October 9, 2012 at 9:37 PM

It is good to have this come out before the next few debates. Hit Barry with it.

bayview on October 9, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Well, this confirms that Dear Leader is going to strike some “responsible parties” before the election or before the last debate…

d1carter on October 9, 2012 at 9:30 PM

He might do it before the election, but it will be so transparent to be laughable and, more important, it will only shine a light on why they relaxed security in Benghazi to begin with, and then lied about the cause of the assassination on 5 different networks, including the big ones. But then again, desperation is why teams throw Hail Marys with 4 seconds left.

TXUS on October 9, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Yeah so… how about some clips of Obama and his team lying to us saying it was all about a movie, then clips of the movie guy being arrested, followed by this admission how many weeks later?

Dash on October 9, 2012 at 9:38 PM

.

W O R S E . T H A N . W A T E R G A T E .

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petefrt on October 9, 2012 at 9:39 PM

K Powers says that the State Department did not want Fox News people on the call because they knew too much. Would question them on the facts…

d1carter on October 9, 2012 at 8:50 PM

Leaving FOX out has VayJay’s stink all over it. As does the “let’s tell the peasants the attack was because of an anti-Muslim youtube video” smokescreen.

Flora Duh on October 9, 2012 at 9:39 PM

VorDaj, it’s your attempt to deflect blame away from the SCOAMF and on to Patreus that is so laughable, were it not so sad. Barry is in this one up to his neck, publicly BTW, and there is no defense for his own inactions that cost 4 American Citizens their lives. Of course, this is on top of more than 300 lives lost inF&F, so I guess that this is even less than “collateral damage” for the SCOAMF.

Your trying to lay this off on Patreus is laughable on its face and in reality. Your position is pathetic. Enjoy 11/7, I suggest you stock up on Whiskey and Depends. You will need both.

ManWithNoParty on October 9, 2012 at 9:40 PM

slickwillie2001 on October 9, 2012 at 9:33 PM

A golf metaphor, how appropriate. I remember the last time they tried to exclude Fox and the other media protested, I wonder what they thought this time?

Cindy Munford on October 9, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Yeah so… how about some clips of Obama and his team lying to us saying it was all about a movie, then clips of the movie guy being arrested, followed by this admission how many weeks later?

Dash on October 9, 2012 at 9:38 PM

All they need is someone like Richard Jewell…a ‘person of interest’.

BobMbx on October 9, 2012 at 9:41 PM

petefrt on October 9, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Not to the media.

Cindy Munford on October 9, 2012 at 9:41 PM

W O R S E . T H A N . W A T E R G A T E .

petefrt on October 9, 2012 at 9:39 PM

But not as bad as Operation Murder and Mendacity, Obama’s and Holder’s Rolling 9/11 against Mexican Civilians, aka Operation Fast and Furious.

VorDaj on October 9, 2012 at 9:42 PM

The Hill is reporting that Republicans sent a secret fact-finding group to Libya before the hearings and the Democrats are furious about it.

HopeHeFails on October 9, 2012 at 9:36 PM

This is going to blow sky high before the next debate.

gophergirl on October 9, 2012 at 9:42 PM

slickwillie2001 on October 9, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Why can’t she run for office?

Cindy Munford on October 9, 2012 at 9:42 PM

TXUS on October 9, 2012 at 9:38 PM

His track record says that he doesn’t believe anyone will call him on it…but he will be in a box if the legacy media notices this…finally.

d1carter on October 9, 2012 at 9:43 PM

This whole affair is a Petraeus bare-faced lie-fest.

VorDaj on October 9, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Patraeus has always been an islamist apologist.

Solaratov on October 9, 2012 at 9:43 PM

This is Obama’s Desert One – only worse, because Carter didn’t engage in such a flagrant cover-up after the failed rescue mission. In my book, this is October Surprise worthy, even if the MSM ignores it.

Buck Turgidson on October 9, 2012 at 9:43 PM

PolAgnostic on October 9, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Thanks.

INC on October 9, 2012 at 9:44 PM

BobMbx on October 9, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Like I said up thread, do you like any human that much? Me, either.

Cindy Munford on October 9, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Your trying to lay this off on Patreus is laughable on its face and in reality. Your position is pathetic. Enjoy 11/7, I suggest you stock up on Whiskey and Depends. You will need both.

ManWithNoParty on October 9, 2012 at 9:40 PM

You see but you do not observe. You hear but you do not listen.

VorDaj on October 9, 2012 at 9:45 PM

Sooo, how are they going to lie, er, I mean explain their lying, er, being mistaken for a month?

WannabeAnglican on October 9, 2012 at 9:45 PM

I am fine with Hillary throw Obama under the bus because it will ruin her in the process also. I consider it a twofer.

Cindy Munford on October 9, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Either way, whoever puts whomever under the bus, it looks like a twofer to me. Love it.

petefrt on October 9, 2012 at 9:45 PM

Revolt of the Spooks
Intelligence officials angered by Obama administration cover up of intelligence on Iranian, al Qaeda surge in Egypt and Libya
http://freebeacon.com/revolt-of-the-spooks/

Any suggestion that the Obama administration was reiterating “talking points” put forward by the CIA in suggesting what took place at Benghazi is complete rubbish.

john.frank on October 9, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Patraeus has always been an islamist apologist.

Solaratov on October 9, 2012 at 9:43 PM

In his 56 page staff report to congress a couple years back he blamed Israel for the “problems” in the Middle East.

VorDaj on October 9, 2012 at 9:47 PM

hawkdriver on October 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Unfortunately he apparently is. But at least, unlike Petraeus, he is not above criticism.

VorDaj on October 9, 2012 at 9:35 PM

What the hell are you talking about? You’re f*cking deranged with hate you f*cking psychopath. You’re like Ahab and Dave Petraeus is your white whale. Remember this …

1. Even if Petraeus led the attack on the Embassy in Benghazi, you’re still not man enough to carry his jock. I hold my tongue on a lot of your pathetic comments where you’re actually called for him to be tried and insinuated that capital execution wouldn’t be out of the question. For other US generals as well.

2. If he’s complicit in hiding the facts, he’ll get all the criticism he deserves, by better men than you.

The fact is you roll up all your anti-war anger in a single guy that doesn’t deserve a fraction of what you attribute to him in as far as responsibility for the war in Afghanistan turning south. He is almost singlehandedly responsible as a leader to have turned the war in Iraq around. I have worked with him and have spoken with the man personally. He’s a warrior. Time will tell whether he deserves criticism over this, but I can tell you today, you’re not the yellow-belly anti-war shill that has any right to voice it.

hawkdriver on October 9, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Maybe not, but Clinton made government sexy again when he played saxophone on MTV

It was Arsenio Hall (remember him?). And Billy Jeff’s skill at the sax was marginal – he played “Night Train”, a marching band staple that I could play after my first lesson.

He said he wore briefs on MTV. Waaaaay TMI. Gag city.

jclittlep on October 9, 2012 at 9:48 PM

The Hill is reporting that Republicans sent a secret fact-finding group to Libya before the hearings and the Democrats are furious about it.

HopeHeFails on October 9, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Hmm, so maybe it wasn’t the thin air in Denver after all:), but this secret fact-finding mission that Barky was so worried about during the debate..

jimver on October 9, 2012 at 9:48 PM

I commented on both occasions that the Clintonistas were hanging the SCOAMF et al out to twist in the wind.

PolAgnostic on October 9, 2012 at 9:09 PM

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Nope, sorry, that’s not what is happening. What we are witnessing is a very complex bait and switch operation. Something took place in Libya prior to the attack in Benghazi, something very dark and malevolent that the State Department and the White House are working desperately and frantically to prevent coming to light.

Rumor has it that that something is that the State Department under orders from the White House was employing Ambassador Stevens as the primary negotiator and facilitator for a very large scale weapons transfer between the United States Government and the Muslim Brotherhood/Al Qaeda with an intended destination of Syria.

SWalker on October 9, 2012 at 9:32 PM


Is there a reason we can’t BOTH be right?

Given the scenario of being alone in a dark alley with either Shrillery or the SCOAMF; where I would have to turn my back on one of them to get out of the alley?

I’ll pick the SCOAMF every time.

Shrillery would put one in the back of my head in a heartbeat.

The SCOAMF does not have those kinds of skills.

Reverse engineer what HAS happened:

Q: Why hasn’t the White House thrown Hillary under the bus for the Benghazi FU?

A: Occam’s Razor – Because they CAN’T

PolAgnostic on October 9, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Sooo, how are they going to lie, er, I mean explain their lying, er, being mistaken for a month?

WannabeAnglican on October 9, 2012 at 9:45 PM

“We released information to the media as soon as the facts became available to us through our official investigation.”

Flora Duh on October 9, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Woodward was just on Hannity. When Hannity said that that this was a clear cut example of the administration lying, Woodward said, It isn’t clear and requires more looking into (paraphrased)… Typical MSM..Benjamin Franklin is rolling in his grave…probably doing back flips as well…

ERWhiteJr on October 9, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Wow…Hollywood couldn’t make this more ‘interesting’. What a horrendous/corrupt/dangerous administration our country voted into office.

pannw on October 9, 2012 at 9:49 PM

Another fact filled and useless retort, VorDaj. Do what you can to deflect from The Won. Remember to stock up for 11/7. Pathetic

ManWithNoParty on October 9, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Is there anyone here who was as utterly flabbergasted as Diane Sawyer?

Really, the news media bubble must be opaque; I thought we all knew this three weeks ago.

BKeyser on October 9, 2012 at 9:52 PM

The Hill is reporting that Republicans sent a secret fact-finding group to Libya before the hearings and the Democrats are furious about it.

HopeHeFails on October 9, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Wow! Zero must be curled up on Valerie’s lap about now.

Rational Thought on October 9, 2012 at 9:53 PM

What the hell are you talking about? You’re f*cking deranged with hate you f*cking psychopath.

hawkdriver on October 9, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Oh my. When you get wound up you really get wound up. Calm down about 10 notches and maybe you can be Obama’s stand in at his next debate with Romney. That would be nice.

VorDaj on October 9, 2012 at 9:54 PM

VorDaj, did Patreus sleep with your significant other?
You seem mighty butthurt by him, almost personal in nature.

D-fusit on October 9, 2012 at 9:54 PM

It feels like there are some floodgates about to burst wide open and wash away everything the media has tried to accomplish embargo over the past 4 years.

Joe Biden’s debate prep just got squirreled.

CitizenEgg on October 9, 2012 at 9:55 PM

The Hill is reporting that Republicans sent a secret fact-finding group to Libya before the hearings and the Democrats are furious about it.

HopeHeFails on October 9, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Wasn’t Jason Chavitz (sp) part of it? He was talking about his trip to Libya last night on Greta.

JPeterman on October 9, 2012 at 9:55 PM

ManWithNoParty on October 9, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Petraeus was the first one to come up with the “movie story” – but has since dropped into the background in this debacle. No one is trying to ‘lay it off on him’ to deflect from d’ohbama. But it is entirely logical that he helped d’ohbama with the story.
Petraeus has always been an apologist for the islamists – right from the beginning; and it is he that stuck to that story in the face of evidence to the contrary presented from the very first by his own people at the Agency.

Solaratov on October 9, 2012 at 9:55 PM

The Hill is reporting that Republicans sent a secret fact-finding group to Libya before the hearings and the Democrats are furious about it.

HopeHeFails on October 9, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Hmm, so maybe it wasn’t the thin air in Denver after all:), but this secret fact-finding mission that Barky was so worried about during the debate..

jimver on October 9, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Wow! Zero must be curled up on Valerie’s lap about now.

Rational Thought on October 9, 2012 at 9:53 PM

If this part is true, it might single-handedly restore my faith in the GOP. That would have taken balls.

hawkdriver on October 9, 2012 at 9:56 PM

So the State Dept. says it NEVER linked the attack to the Youtube video…but Hillary Clinton — repeatedly — linked the attack to the video…so does that mean Hillary Clinton doesn’t work at the…State Dept.?

Interesting.

Rational Thought on October 9, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Putting on my “tinfoil hat” I think it goes like this:

If Susan Rice doesn’t fall on her sword to save Hilary, then Hilary will be sacrificed to the ‘BUS GOD’ to save Valery Jarrett. Dear Leader isn’t the “smartest one in the room” anymore, so he’s not calling the shots, and Moochelle isn’t anywhere near this.
/”Tinfoil hat” off.

belad on October 9, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Is there anyone here who was as utterly flabbergasted as Diane Sawyer?

Really, the news media bubble must be opaque; I thought we all knew this three weeks ago.

BKeyser on October 9, 2012 at 9:52 PM

heh. That screencap of Diane on the main page is classic.

Flora Duh on October 9, 2012 at 9:58 PM

I found the link.

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/terrorism/260977-dems-accuse-issa-of-playing-politics-with-secret-trip-to-libya

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), the chairman of the subpanel on national security, was the only committee member to take part in the congressional delegation….

Chaffetz told The Hill that he found out at the last minute that he was cleared for the visit to Libya and said Democrats declined to take part.

“Even I got less than 24 hours notice that we were going,” he said. “I dropped everything to make it happen, [Democrats] chose not to.”

“The State Department flew out an attorney to follow me around everywhere I went. The Democrats had no representation, they didn’t have a member of Congress who thought it was important enough to go.”

The Dems are now squawking.

INC on October 9, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Is there anyone here who was as utterly flabbergasted as Diane Sawyer?

Really, the news media bubble must be opaque; I thought we all knew this three weeks ago.

BKeyser on October 9, 2012 at 9:52 PM

LOL. She must have been out of the country for the last month or so…or Mars/Venus.

d1carter on October 9, 2012 at 9:59 PM

This is Obama’s Desert One – only worse, because Carter didn’t engage in such a flagrant cover-up after the failed rescue mission.

Buck Turgidson on October 9, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Even Carter accepted ultimate responsibility for the failed mission. He didn’t try to find a scapegoat.

Solaratov on October 9, 2012 at 9:59 PM

hawkdriver on October 9, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Oh my. When you get wound up you really get wound up. Calm down about 10 notches and maybe you can be Obama’s stand in at his next debate with Romney. That would be nice.

VorDaj on October 9, 2012 at 9:54 PM

Did that sound angry? You’re so sentitive and soft, it might have to you. Someone sneaks up behind you and says “NEOCON” and you pee your pants, right?

Again, you insinuating I might be for obama is about as ridiculous as your Army creds. No one’s buying it, Slappy.

Of all the thing Petraeus might be, the one that single-handedly stands out for me is “a better man than you”.

hawkdriver on October 9, 2012 at 10:00 PM

By the way, ABC is hopping on this because CBS is kicking their ass on this story and they are finally figuring out that this is WORSE THAN WATERGATE and they’re going to have to cover it.

Rational Thought on October 9, 2012 at 10:00 PM

I assume the Dems didn’t want to go to Libya because they thought the media would help the problem go away.

INC on October 9, 2012 at 10:01 PM

The Dems are now squawking.

INC on October 9, 2012 at 9:59 PM

I’m reading that now, any idea when they left because I may be missing it? Last Wednesday?

JPeterman on October 9, 2012 at 10:01 PM

Why can’t she run for office?

Cindy Munford on October 9, 2012 at 9:42 PM

Sorry, I should have said ‘won’t’. She is academic-diplomatic track through and through.

slickwillie2001 on October 9, 2012 at 10:01 PM

VorDaj, did Patreus sleep with your significant other?
You seem mighty butthurt by him, almost personal in nature.

D-fusit on October 9, 2012 at 9:54 PM

She would knock his teeth out if he ever tried.

VorDaj on October 9, 2012 at 10:02 PM

I understand that this was the initial narrative. However, some backed off of it very quickly (Patreus) while others continued to pathetically and publicly try and push it (Barry). Who’s more culpable?

ManWithNoParty on October 9, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Of all the thing Petraeus might be, the one that single-handedly stands out for me is “a better man than you”.

hawkdriver on October 9, 2012 at 10:00 PM

You set an impossibly high bar for vordaj to clear.

In reality, vordaj couldn’t measure up to a Petraeus bowel movement.

cozmo on October 9, 2012 at 10:04 PM

Wake the f**k up. Obama screwed this one up, badly. Your pathetic, laughable, and embarrassing attempts to keep saying “look somewhere other than where the actual blame lies!!!” serve only to show just how hot the flames are in this trainwreck.

MadisonConservative on October 9, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Hussein or not, it was Shillary’s job to provide security for HER employees. Under her employ and management. Especially when asked. Repeatedly.

Sorry to disagree with some here, but had Shillary any ability of throwing Hussein under the bus on this, she would have done so without flinching or hesitation.

Her 2016 run is done. DONE. (A nice round of applaud here…)

“So, as you pointed out in your 2008 presidential run, YOUR calls, as in PLURAL CALLS, came at 3AM. A number of times. And yet, you failed to respond, spanning a time frame of a few months, which cost the lives of our Ambassador to Libya as well as those who tried to protect him. How does make you qualified to lead our military and provide for our citizens across the globe?”

riddick on October 9, 2012 at 10:05 PM

The CIA has been a left wing sinecure and an open source of misinformation to the American public and American politicians for years. Remember the Iran has not been working on nukes for 5 years narrative? That was designed to over throw Bush.

pat on October 9, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Did that sound angry? You’re so sentitive and soft, it might have to you.

hawkdriver on October 9, 2012 at 10:00 PM

I was trying to be kind. Actually it sounded like you had morphed into Lawrence O’Donnell.

VorDaj on October 9, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Is there anyone here who was as utterly flabbergasted as Diane Sawyer?

Really, the news media bubble must be opaque; I thought we all knew this three weeks ago.

BKeyser on October 9, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Yeah, she’s just shocked — shocked! — to find gambling going on.

Rational Thought on October 9, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Susan Rice is ging to be the fall person. You watch.

watertown on October 9, 2012 at 10:09 PM

In reality, vordaj couldn’t measure up to a Petraeus bowel movement.

cozmo on October 9, 2012 at 10:04 PM

You again. What are you, about 6 years old going on 2?

VorDaj on October 9, 2012 at 10:09 PM

I understand that this was the initial narrative. However, some backed off of it very quickly (Patreus) while others continued to pathetically and publicly try and push it (Barry). Who’s more culpable?

ManWithNoParty on October 9, 2012 at 10:03 PM

When did Patraeus back off from that position? (seriously)
I thought that, after presenting it at the first, that he just ‘went silent’ on the subject.
Did he say that new evidence had changed his mind, or what?

Solaratov on October 9, 2012 at 10:09 PM

slickwillie2001 on October 9, 2012 at 10:01 PM

I realize I don’t care much for Obama and his people and that has colored my views but none of them seem very competent. I don’t even thing Hillary is good at her job. They all seem to be plugged in due to cronyism or in Hillary’s case, keeping the competition close and her supporters in line.

Cindy Munford on October 9, 2012 at 10:09 PM

watertown on October 9, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Probably but it’s a dumb move, few will be fooled.

Cindy Munford on October 9, 2012 at 10:11 PM

Q: Why hasn’t the White House thrown Hillary under the bus for the Benghazi FU?

PolAgnostic on October 9, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Hold on to your sock’s dude… The White House hasn’t thrown Hillary under the Bus over this yet, not because they can’t… But because this wasn’t a FU.

Ambassador Stevens was a loose end that needed tying up. Ambassador Stevens was given the Uriah the Hittite treatment.

Since were playing 20 questions, now it’s your turn.

1) What could possibly be happening in Syria that would make the idiots at Foggy Bottom think it was a good idea to arm the Muslim Brotherhood/Al Qaeda?

2) Why are the Muslim Brotherhood/Al Qaeda currently targeting and killing the top command personal of Hezbollah in Syria?

3) What does this have to do with Syria’s rapidly vanishing stockpiles of Cyclosarin nerve gas? (reputed to have been manufactured in Iraq and transported to Syria by the Russians just before Operation Iraqi Freedom)

SWalker on October 9, 2012 at 10:11 PM

hawkdriver on October 9, 2012 at 10:00 PM

I was trying to be kind. Actually it sounded like you had morphed into Lawrence O’Donnell.

VorDaj on October 9, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Look Doorvag, if this is just a chance for you to take shots at me, fine. You’ve called me every name in the book before and I really don’t care. But your unhinged rants about every officer in my former chain of command is another thing. I mean really, do you actually want them all hanged like you’ve said on so many occasions? Are you seriously saying they need to be killed for doing the best they can leading men and women in combat after lesser men like you decided you couldn’t hack the responsibility and took a knee?

hawkdriver on October 9, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Leave the Lyin kING alone he is busy saving the Billionaire Big Bird from mean old mitt!

ConcealedKerry on October 9, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Where does the fault lie?

Well we have a Muslim sympathizer President.

We have an incompetent Secretary of State.

Her “girl Friday” is a Muslim and her family is connected to the Muslim Brohood.

Congress is filled with CAIR supporters.

Bush 43 practically held hands with the “mainstream” of the Muslim community and refused to profile the obvious likely terror subjects at Airports……and 11 years later Granny is still getting the crotch check and can’t carry hand sanitizer on a plane.

WE are at fault……..because we put up with he politicians doing this.

PappyD61 on October 9, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Hussein or not, it was Shillary’s job to provide security for HER employees. Under her employ and management. Especially when asked. Repeatedly.

Sorry to disagree with some here, but had Shillary any ability of throwing Hussein under the bus on this, she would have done so without flinching or hesitation.

Her 2016 run is done. DONE. (A nice round of applaud here…)

“So, as you pointed out in your 2008 presidential run, YOUR calls, as in PLURAL CALLS, came at 3AM. A number of times. And yet, you failed to respond, spanning a time frame of a few months, which cost the lives of our Ambassador to Libya as well as those who tried to protect him. How does make you qualified to lead our military and provide for our citizens across the globe?”

riddick on October 9, 2012 at 10:05 PM

I absolutely agree with you. Shrillery, like Barack, has ZERO experience to be secretary of state. For God’s sake, it was an absurd appointment from day one. She blew it here, Zero blew it, and now they are engaged in a despicable cover-up because her rapist husband is oh so necessary to Zero’s re-election efforts. The both of them have been “playing government” like a couple of spoiled, entitled children, but their games are getting people killed all over the place. Disgusting.

Rational Thought on October 9, 2012 at 10:13 PM

The CIA has been a left wing sinecure and an open source of misinformation to the American public and American politicians for years. Remember the Iran has not been working on nukes for 5 years narrative? That was designed to over throw Bush.

pat on October 9, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Yep. How can the CIA ever be fixed? Aren’t there at least a few democratics in Congress that don’t want the CIA politically biased in either direction?

slickwillie2001 on October 9, 2012 at 10:14 PM

I understand that this was the initial narrative. However, some backed off of it very quickly (Patreus) while others continued to pathetically and publicly try and push it (Barry). Who’s more culpable?

ManWithNoParty on October 9, 2012 at 10:03 PM

You see the problem here abouts is that Petraeus always gets a pass while the other culprits don’t. One would think his supporters are Muslims and he is Mohammad the way they, one of them in particular, go all rage boy at any shining of light on their sacred one.

VorDaj on October 9, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Susan Rice is ging to be the fall person. You watch.

watertown on October 9, 2012 at 10:09 PM

How could she be? She was just “telling the story” that the regime told her to tell.
She had no responsibility for anything that happened in Benghazi.

Whether she stays or resigns is immaterial. I want to see those responsible for pulling the security elements from the consulate and embassy and denying them replacements punished. I want to see them publicly disgraced and hung out to dry.

Solaratov on October 9, 2012 at 10:14 PM

In reality, vordaj couldn’t measure up to a Petraeus bowel movement.

cozmo on October 9, 2012 at 10:04 PM

You again. What are you, about 6 years old going on 2?

VorDaj on October 9, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Says the idiot who makes up stupid songs under about twelve sock-puppets and can’t talk about the war without saying “Afcrapistan”. It might have been funny in a sophomoric way “once” but my God, what are you, three?

hawkdriver on October 9, 2012 at 10:14 PM

The silence is what I was referring to. I’m not saying the CIA and Patreus were lilly white in this whole deal, but they did stop with the ridiculous Youtube movie narrative pretty quickly.

ManWithNoParty on October 9, 2012 at 10:15 PM

The silence is what I was referring to. I’m not saying the CIA and Patreus were lilly white in this whole deal, but they did stop with the ridiculous Youtube movie narrative pretty quickly.

ManWithNoParty on October 9, 2012 at 10:15 PM

The guy hates every US Commander since the war began. He has an a bigger axe to grind with the lot of them that has zero to do with this. Unhinged.

hawkdriver on October 9, 2012 at 10:17 PM

Bush 43 practically held hands with the “mainstream” of the Muslim community and refused to profile the obvious likely terror subjects at Airports……and 11 years later Granny is still getting the crotch check and can’t carry hand sanitizer on a plane.

WE are at fault……..because we put up with he politicians doing this.

PappyD61 on October 9, 2012 at 10:13 PM

Islam brings hope and comfort to millions of people in my country, and to more than a billion people worldwide. Ramadan is also an occasion to remember that Islam gave birth to a rich civilization of learning that has benefited mankind. Islam is a faith that brings comfort to people. It inspires them to lead lives based on honesty, and justice, and compassion. Islam is a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. It’s a faith that has made brothers and sisters of every race. It’s a faith based upon love, not hate. Mohammad’s word has guided billions of believers across the centuries, and those believers built a culture of learning and literature and science. All the world continues to benefit from this faith and its achievements. The Islam that we know is a faith devoted to the worship of one God, as revealed through The Holy Qur’an. It teaches the value and the importance of charity, mercy, and peace.
George W. Bush !!!

VorDaj on October 9, 2012 at 10:17 PM

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