WaPo’s Chris Cillizza wonders: Is Candidate Obama … overrated?

posted at 12:01 pm on October 8, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

It’s amazing what happens when the emperor is exposed as having no clothes, eh?  Suddenly, the media begin asking questions that everyone else asked four years ago about a man who hadn’t even completed one term as Senator and who had no executive experience, running in a distinctly anti-Republican political environment.  Chris Cillizza at the Washington Post wonders whether Barack Obama has always been as mediocre a candidate as he was last Wednesday night in the debate:

Obama’s debate performance also raised a bigger question: Is he overrated as a candidate?

Four years ago, that question would have been unimaginable. After all, this was a man who in his first run for national office not only outmaneuvered the Clinton family to win the Democratic presidential nomination but also went on to claim a 365-electoral-vote general-election landslide against Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz). And, oh by the way, Obama did all that while raising $750 million (including $500 million online) — a sum that shattered all fundraising records.

Well, we’re finding out more about how Team Obama shattered those fundraising records, too.  But Cillizza is wrong about the question being “unimaginable”; plenty of us “imagined” it at the time, and not just about Obama as a candidate.  He was easily the least-experienced major-party nominee in decades, with no military, business, or executive experience prior to his candidacy.  The only elections he won were in a heavily Democratic region — Chicago — and against Alan Keyes in his one statewide race in 2004.  Obama had never distinguished himself as a legislative leader. His only real claim to fame was that he wrote two memoirs and gave a great speech at the 2004 Democratic convention.

In fact, not only were many of us “imagining” that question, we were pointing out Obama’s flaws and foibles on the campaign trail, most of which the press ignored in favor of the Obama narrative of Hope and Change.  Cillizza tacitly acknowledges the warning signs in 2008:

And yet, even in that campaign, there was some evidence that candidate Obama had flaws — the most notable of which was that while he delivered solid performances in the debates against McCain, he was far from the champion performer that many expected. (The coverage largely glossed over that fact because a) the race had already heavily tilted in Obama’s favor by that point, making the debates less meaningful, and b) McCain was a decent debater at best, which made Obama’s performance seem stronger in comparison.)

The narrative has changed this year, or perhaps it’s better to say that Obama has forced the narrative to change:

Fast-forward to this campaign — and specifically its last two major public events — and you see Obama’s flaws as a candidate in starker relief.

His acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention was flat and, rhetorically, felt like a patchwork effort — five or six different speeches all clumped into a single address. His debate performance was glum and defensive, leaving anyone who watched with the overwhelming sense that the president would have rather been anywhere but sharing the stage with former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney (R).

The New York Times says the same thing today, claiming that Obama has so much disdain for Romney that he couldn’t overcome it in the debate:

Mr. Obama does not like debates to begin with, aides have long said, viewing them as media-driven gamesmanship. He did not do all that well in 2008 but benefited from Senator John McCain’s grumpy performances. Mr. Obama made clear to advisers that he was not happy about debating Mr. Romney, whom he views with disdain. It was something to endure, rather than an opportunity, aides said.

Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts was recruited to play Mr. Romney. The preparation team was kept small. The most important players were Mr. Axelrod; David Plouffe, the president’s senior adviser; and Anita Dunn, a former White House communications director. Others included Joel Benenson, the president’s pollster; Ronald A. Klain, Mr. Biden’s former chief of staff; and Robert Barnett, a longtime Democratic debate coach.

By the time Mr. Obama retreated to Nevada for a final couple days of practice, the debate prep team was getting by on as little as three hours of sleep a night as they crafted answers and attack lines. Mr. Kerry played a range of Mr. Romneys — aggressive, laid back, hard-edge conservative — and got in the president’s face, according to people in the room. Mr. Obama’s alternating performances left aides walking off Air Force One in Denver looking worried.

Well … so what?  No one likes debating a political opponent.  A professional overcomes that and muscles up.  A dilettante uses that as an excuse not to properly prepare.  It’s pretty clear which showed up on Wednesday.

Cillizza tries to finish on a positive note for Obama, underscoring his rhetorical gifts, which were entirely outside of evidence in these last two opportunities.  There’s no mistaking the shift in narrative, however, and it’s not just the media wondering whether Obama’s overrated as a candidate. It’s also going to extend to whether Obama has been overrated as a President — and why the media has worked so hard in overrating him as both.


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aunursa on October 8, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Yes

GW_SS-Delta on October 8, 2012 at 12:02 PM

He was a great candidate when he didn’t have a record that he had to run on.

aunursa on October 8, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Obama’s post-debate negativity shows he has nothing to say.

Notice that we continually are talking about the Romney-Ryan plan for this and that but the Obama-Biden plan is “more of the same.”

J_Crater on October 8, 2012 at 12:04 PM

MSM desperately trying to feign objectivity in its advanced stages of decline.

ex_machina on October 8, 2012 at 12:05 PM

WaPo’s Chris Cillizza wonders: Is Candidate Obama … overrated?

…I think if it takes 4 years to ask yourself that question…the intelligence of the journalistic community is definitely overrated!

KOOLAID2 on October 8, 2012 at 12:06 PM

But Obama told his hollyweird friends that he can’t perform flawlessly every time. …

sandee on October 8, 2012 at 12:06 PM

In politics if you are asking the question you should already know the answer.

Skwor on October 8, 2012 at 12:07 PM

He was a great candidate when he didn’t have a record that he had to run on.

aunursa on October 8, 2012 at 12:04 PM

That’s it and That’s all

Jabberwock on October 8, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Obama has “disdain” for Romney, huh?

I’ve said since Day One: a malignant narcissist doesn’t like to be told he has to leave the premises and does not go quiety.

November and December are going to be outrageous.

Marcus on October 8, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Obama has been over rated ever since his birth was announced in the paper. His potential even at that young of an age was far lower than the worst grading he has ever been given. I here some people have tracked back to Obama’s birth a comet in the sky heralding his coming and witnessed kings from foreign lands bringing him incense and gold.

astonerii on October 8, 2012 at 12:07 PM

4 years ago Obama was safe in his media cocoon…today not answering questions is much harder yet Obama is not any better at it.

JIMV on October 8, 2012 at 12:08 PM

And, oh by the way, Obama did all that while raising $750 million (including $500 million online) — a sum that shattered all fundraising records.

He was able to do that simply by breaking the law, knowing that if the FEC investigated they would still have not come to a conclusion. It was named FEC with reference to ‘feckless’.

slickwillie2001 on October 8, 2012 at 12:08 PM

Cillizza attains firm grasp of the obvious.

News at ten.

viking01 on October 8, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Up next … the LSM discovers Joe Biden is an incoherent lecher!

Film at 11:00 … on Thursday October 11, 2012.

PolAgnostic on October 8, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Four years ago, that question would have been unimaginable.

Wrong.

Plenty of us dumb wingnuts knew Obama was an empty suit with a race-baiting anti-capitalist worldview from the start. It was only “unimaginable” to the professional commentariat, who examined Obama with all the care and objectivity of a 17 year-old girl drooling over the latest teen idol in Tiger Beat. You obtuse fools in the media only saw what you wanted to see, and remained willfully blind to anything that spoiled the picture.

Cicero43 on October 8, 2012 at 12:10 PM

He has always been an underperforming, overrated fabrication of the left. Left alone and to his own resources he will implode.

rplat on October 8, 2012 at 12:11 PM

That debate only reinforces my belief that the US dodged a bullet when Obama was elected prematurely in 2008. Obama ran then to get his name out, eying 2016. By 2016 he would have had almost 2 full terms as a senator under his belt. Or perhaps even a run for Governor of Illinois in prep for a White House run. If he had he might have ended up having enough knowledge and experience to be a 21st century FDR in effectiveness. Instead he won and then believed his own hype thinking he was not another FDR but Ghandi or MLK Jr. The Nobel Peace prize just reinforced that in his mind. He was doomed to failure from the moment he was sworn in. Thankfully most of his most egregious errors can be undone. Had he gained more experience and waited that may have not been the case.

Rocks on October 8, 2012 at 12:11 PM

He was able to do that simply by breaking the law, knowing that if the FEC investigated they would still have not come to a conclusion. It was named FEC with reference to ‘feckless’.

slickwillie2001 on October 8, 2012 at 12:08 PM

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The FEC is a “house divided against itself” by design. Half are Republican, half are Democrats – all are suspect.

PolAgnostic on October 8, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Be careful…all Obama has to do is be “okay” and he will be proclaimed as the second coming, the phoenix from the ashes, the resurrection…

Ryan needs to destroy Biden, Obama needs to flop again the next debate…and it’s all over.

right2bright on October 8, 2012 at 12:12 PM

I said from day 1 that Barfy pulled off the hustle of the Millennium.

Al (NotSo)Sharpton is jealous.

NapaConservative on October 8, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Obama’s debate performance also raised a bigger question: Is he overrated as a candidate?

Four years ago, that question would have been unimaginable.

LOL!! A lot of us noticed it in 2008. That Cilizza couldn’t “imagine” it in 2008 says a lot about his lack of imagination. And is more than a little (unintentionally) revealing of where Cilizza’s biases lie.

ghostwriter on October 8, 2012 at 12:12 PM

“Four years ago, that question would have been unimaginable.” It is this rank stupidity that would have gotten Chris fired from any other private sector job.

Intrepid767 on October 8, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Now would be an important time for the president to remind the nation that it’s just the season for getting wee wee’d up, nothing to see here and Romney is so rich, that he SQUIRREL!

Greek Fire on October 8, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Cillizza attains firm grasp of the obvious.

News at ten.

viking01 on October 8, 2012 at 12:09 PM

This reminds me of a favorite line from Fawlty Towers with John Cleese:

“Wow! Can we get you on television, Sybil?! ‘Sybil Fawlty: master of the bloody obvious’ ??!”

Marcus on October 8, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Rhetoric good for Obama bad for mitt

Idiots

cmsinaz on October 8, 2012 at 12:15 PM

By the time Mr. Obama retreated to Nevada for a final couple days of practice, the debate prep team was getting by on as little as three hours of sleep a night as they crafted answers and attack lines. Mr. Kerry played a range of Mr. Romneys — aggressive, laid back, hard-edge conservative — and got in the president’s face, according to people in the room. Mr. Obama’s alternating performances left aides walking off Air Force One in Denver looking worried.

LOL! Translation: Obama can’t even beat John Kerry in a debate. Too funny!

ghostwriter on October 8, 2012 at 12:15 PM

who examined Obama with all the care and objectivity of a 17 year-old girl drooling over the latest teen idol in Tiger Beat. You obtuse fools in the media only saw what you wanted to see, and remained willfully blind to anything that spoiled the picture.

Cicero43 on October 8, 2012 at 12:10 PM

The only problem with this is your use of the past tense.

Greek Fire on October 8, 2012 at 12:16 PM

I remember the best friend of mine’s father telling me back in 08-09 that Obama would be remembered as the greatest President of All Time. I couldn’t do anything but shake my head after he completely dismissed for no reason my pointing out Obama’s genuine lack of political/executive/business accomplishments. I know plenty of Obamabots but that man took the cake.

JSR08 on October 8, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Four years ago, that question would have been unimaginable.

Only because you bought in to the narrative you manufactured out of thin air.

tommyboy on October 8, 2012 at 12:16 PM

I have long maintained that Obama is a dilettante and his debate performance, coupled with this revelation regarding his attitude proceeding the debate, is in keeping with that assessment.

He has been overrated, over protected, and over indulged. He is living proof the the left believes exactly what it collectively chooses to believe. In this case they created a man who never was.

thatsafactjack on October 8, 2012 at 12:16 PM

OverRated,he only has/had two years as a Senator,
and he doesn’t have any EXPERIENCE!!!!

canopfor on October 8, 2012 at 12:16 PM

LOL! Translation: Obama can’t even beat John Kerry in a debate. Too funny!

ghostwriter on October 8, 2012 at 12:15 PM

It is hard to beat a person who is on three sides of every issue with each response, and after an entire debate has taken 20 to 50 sides of them. Which of his sides do you attack?

astonerii on October 8, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Hahahahaha, we knew the answer to this FIVE years ago. Nothing, not one thing qualified this clown for the position he’s in and we tried and tried and tried to warn people to no avail. Now look where we’re at. The man is a train wreck. And what happened when people tried to say he would be a train wreck? They were called tea baggers and racists. Maybe that’s what this writer will be labeled.

scalleywag on October 8, 2012 at 12:17 PM

The MSM,created this Frankenstein!!!

canopfor on October 8, 2012 at 12:18 PM

We are merely watch the broken puppet who was forced to speak for himself and suddenly became an embarrassment to all those who worshiped the faux messiah first, and only because he’s exposed himself to be inept, that they begin to ask themselves how they could be so dumb?

Make no mistake though, the left wants real a dictator to control us. They don’t believe for a second that their ideology has failed –only their faux messiah.

Don L on October 8, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Chris Chillizza uncovered something I’ve been saying for 5 years. Fire the guy. He’s intoxicated from consuming Obama caca. It’s not Beluga caviar, fool.

Schadenfreude on October 8, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Whom played Obama in Romney’s debate preparation?

Oh and Kerry is a terrible debater, as usual Obama picked the wrong man for the job.

18-1 on October 8, 2012 at 12:18 PM

WaPo’s Chris Cillizza wonders: Is Candidate Obama … overrated?

I nominate this question for the “Stupidest question of the century”, that the Fifth Column Treasonous Media even had to ask (they were the imbeciles hyping him as the smartest man in the room) begs the question itself, has the Fifth Column Treasonous Media become a pathetic unaware parody of an evil propaganda machine?

The Illegal campaign of Barack Insane Obama.

SWalker on October 8, 2012 at 12:19 PM

“unimaginable.”

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

logis on October 8, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Oh boy,Rush just said,the Over-rated thingy!

Online Streaming El RushBo!

http://tunein.com/radio/The-Rush-Limbaugh-Show-p20617/

canopfor on October 8, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Chillizza, just for you.

Schadenfreude on October 8, 2012 at 12:19 PM

The only elections he has won are ones where the other candidate was either…

a) Trashed personally and illegally
b) Thrown in at the last second
c) Didn’t really care about winning

Now he’s up against a candidate that…

a) Has no major personal dirt
b) Has been preparing for this since the last Republican nomination
c) Isn’t satisfied with just the nomination

MobileVideoEngineer on October 8, 2012 at 12:19 PM

That debate only reinforces my belief that the US dodged a bullet when Obama was elected prematurely in 2008. Obama ran then to get his name out, eying 2016. By 2016 he would have had almost 2 full terms as a senator under his belt. Or perhaps even a run for Governor of Illinois in prep for a White House run. If he had he might have ended up having enough knowledge and experience to be a 21st century FDR in effectiveness. Instead he won and then believed his own hype thinking he was not another FDR but Ghandi or MLK Jr. The Nobel Peace prize just reinforced that in his mind. He was doomed to failure from the moment he was sworn in. Thankfully most of his most egregious errors can be undone. Had he gained more experience and waited that may have not been the case.

Rocks on October 8, 2012 at 12:11 PM

I think you’re right. O’bamna probably didn’t think he’d even have a chance, and was blindsided when the Democrat Media elected him.

Del Dolemonte on October 8, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Capt’n Kick*ss!!!

Yup,OverRated!!

canopfor on October 8, 2012 at 12:20 PM

BO is not just “overrated” – He’s a fantasy created by the MSM and Liberal Dems.

He’s also NOT a “nice guy”.

He’s a fraud.

Cody1991 on October 8, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Uh, look at Tomasky’s title. He is unhinged. I was waiting for his reaction. Taking this “boy”, his word, down, will be the fun of all the fun in the world.

Schadenfreude on October 8, 2012 at 12:21 PM

It is hard to beat a person who is on three sides of every issue with each response, and after an entire debate has taken 20 to 50 sides of them. Which of his sides do you attack?

astonerii on October 8, 2012 at 12:17 PM

You attack the inside of such person as being void of any moral fiber–a fraud, a phony, a despicable human, who would say and do anything to anyone in order to gain power. Unfortunately, that describes most of all the democratic politicians, Alinskyites all!.

Don L on October 8, 2012 at 12:21 PM

“Four years ago, that question would have been unimaginable.”

Not to me.

IrishEyes on October 8, 2012 at 12:21 PM

It’s not even just that he’s over-rated in debates and speeches, which he is. It’s that he now has a record and what is he going to say?

What can he point to? They’re pumped up about a BS 7.8% unemployment figure for god’s sake. Stimulus? Obamacare? Foreign policy? They killed Osama under his watch only takes you so far.

Dash on October 8, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Unwittingly hilarious. Yeah, who could have imagined such a thing back in 2008?

And the Grey Lady’s rationale for his lousy debate performance is almost as funny.

It’s always somebody else’s fault, isn’t it Mr. President? It’s Romney’s fault you despise him and your disdain marred your performance, even thought preparing for the first debate was “a drag.”

Drained Brain on October 8, 2012 at 12:22 PM

He was a great candidate when he didn’t have a record that he had to run on.

aunursa on October 8, 2012 at 12:04 PM

In 2008 everybody liked the idea of Obama. A mixed race post-partisan hipster. But I never thought Obama as candidate was all that good. He just stood on the stage and sucked in the adoration. His town hall meetings were filled with plants like the little girl who asked why people hated him (Mom was a state campaign chair). There were plenty of fainting women so that Obama could call for some water as part of his schtick. But he was as shallow a candidate then as he has been a President.

Happy Nomad on October 8, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Attacks in the slums of Benghazi to come within days. Obama must change subject. Americans will see through it all.

Btw, don’t believe a single word on Benghazi. The real story is not PC to report on but it exists and Obama/Hillary know it.

Schadenfreude on October 8, 2012 at 12:23 PM

Mr. Obama does not like debates to begin with, aides have long said, viewing them as media-driven gamesmanship. … Mr. Obama made clear to advisers that he was not happy about debating Mr. Romney, whom he views with disdain. It was something to endure, rather than an opportunity, aides said.

Sorry, but if you have the courage of your convictions and truly believe you have the better argument, you relish a debate as an opportunity to expose your opponent as the poseur you believe him to be. See Romney, Mitt who just did that to Barry. For a counter-example, see Gore, Al who still refuses to debate any AGW skeptics.

Further, how can a man who holds his chief rival in such disdain continue to claim to be a “bipartisan uniter”? Hello? If you want to unite people, the first step is mutual respect. You lack that and you can forget it.

rcpjr on October 8, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Obama’s debate performance also raised a bigger question: Is he overrated as a candidate?

I don’t think the MSM overrated Obama at all. I think they knew from the start he’s a dolt, but he’s all they have. He’s basically everything the Left could want for sake of appearances, to force liberalism on an unwilling populace if they can’t sell it first.

The media collective is filled with a bunch of hucksters and pitchmen who are pretty much stuck with Obama. I bet even Tingles wishes for Clinton to come back instead of being forced to back the Dolt in Chief. Since that can’t happen, Chrissy and his ilk have to go full-bore and all out.

While Obama is expert at throwing people under his campaign bus, the MSM will throw him under their own if they can get someone better to replace him. Right now, there is no one.

But I’ll bet dollars to donuts they wish there was.

Liam on October 8, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Alright. First of all Cillizza couches his criticism by carefully using the word “candidate” when talking about Obama. This gives he and WaPo cover, and notches one in the “critical” of Obama column in the media fairness scale. It’s in the “Great President. Great Man. Kinda crappy candidate.” vein. At best, it’s advice disguised as criticism- as are virtually all critical-of-Obama posts from the MSM. Constructive criticism, really.

And two, it’s not so much that an unprepared Obama showed up for the debate or the DNC acceptance speech; rather, it was a failed Obama. A President with nothing major from a positive-for-America position to talk about. Both were a dance -clumsy at that- around the simple fact that he has not improved America at home or abroad, and has no plan to do so going FORWARD. He is the grand illusion. Until, at least, a light is shined upon him.

BKeyser on October 8, 2012 at 12:24 PM

The preparation team was kept small. The most important players were Mr. Axelrod; David Plouffe, the president’s senior adviser; and Anita Dunn, a former White House communications director. Others included Joel Benenson, the president’s pollster; Ronald A. Klain, Mr. Biden’s former chief of staff; and Robert Barnett, a longtime Democratic debate coach.

But not Valerie Jarrett?? Doubt it.

wb-33777 on October 8, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Cillizza tries to finish on a positive note for Obama, underscoring his rhetorical gifts,

Why and who cares about his “rhetorical gifts” which considering what we know after four years is code of b.s..

Cindy Munford on October 8, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Obama has been over rated ever since his birth was announced in the paper.

astonerii on October 8, 2012 at 12:07 PM

I like this…

joejm65 on October 8, 2012 at 12:25 PM

It’s time to take the reins from the abandoned child and hand them to the great father.

the new aesthetic on October 8, 2012 at 12:25 PM

From the Tomasky link, above

Rodddd
25 minutes ago

Obama was viewed as a quasi-god in 2008. Remember the greek columns and religion-like reception he got at inauguation. What a shock it was to find out that the guy who pushed thru godcare without one republican vote is really human, and an incompetent human. It could not be believed the imaculate one measured small to the hated Republican candidate.

So Biden is now the standard bearer! We will see how that turns out.

Schadenfreude on October 8, 2012 at 12:27 PM

LOL! Translation: Obama can’t even beat John Kerry in a debate. Too funny!
ghostwriter on October 8, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Obama was against debating Romney before he was against it.

whatcat on October 8, 2012 at 12:27 PM

No one likes debating a political opponent.

You ever heard of Newt Gingrich?

whatcat on October 8, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Whom played Obama in Romney’s debate preparation?

18-1 on October 8, 2012 at 12:18 PM

His 8 year old granddaughter, Gracie. They wanted an accurate representation of his opponent.

the new aesthetic on October 8, 2012 at 12:30 PM

So, why do these liberals feel like they have to explain themselves? I doubt they care about credibility or bias. Is it a pack mentality? It’s one of two things or both. They are afraid it will, or already has, hit them in the pocketbook, and/or after the debate last week where Obama came off as knowing NOTHING, their intelligence is being questioned.

lea on October 8, 2012 at 12:30 PM

That debate only reinforces my belief that the US dodged a bullet when Obama was elected prematurely in 2008. Obama ran then to get his name out, eying 2016. By 2016 he would have had almost 2 full terms as a senator under his belt. Or perhaps even a run for Governor of Illinois in prep for a White House run. If he had he might have ended up having enough knowledge and experience to be a 21st century FDR in effectiveness. Instead he won and then believed his own hype thinking he was not another FDR but Ghandi or MLK Jr. The Nobel Peace prize just reinforced that in his mind. He was doomed to failure from the moment he was sworn in. Thankfully most of his most egregious errors can be undone. Had he gained more experience and waited that may have not been the case.

Rocks on October 8, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Wrong. He didn’t do anything in the state senate and he didn’t do anything in the US Senate. What makes you think he would have gained anything from staying there? He gains nothing from his experiences because he’s a profoundly lazy and stupid man.

BTW, FDR was only ‘effective’ if you grant that his objective was to move the US in a fascist direction while prolonging the depression.

slickwillie2001 on October 8, 2012 at 12:30 PM

Nobody has ever heard about this Obama person. What in the world is Cillizza talking about?

Long past time to turn the “crazy making” against the Crazy Makers.

Christien on October 8, 2012 at 12:30 PM

Leftists are embarrassed by Obama. The fools should have thought about this a long time ago.

Schadenfreude on October 8, 2012 at 12:31 PM

As a point to consider, if you had asked your average Obama voter in 2008 if they would re-elect a candidate that;

1) Had an unemployment rate of 15% (the 7.8 number is fraud on top of bullshit and everyone knows it)

2) Projects $1.2T deficits forever.

3) Is on pace to more then double the debt if re-elected

4) Oversaw the rise on Islamism in previously stable countries

5) Inflicted a 10% inflation rate via his economic policies (look at the numbers if you include energy and food).

6) Gave away the cost of a whole Iraq war to his friend via a “stimulus”

7) Lost the Afghan war.

I don’t think many would have agreed.

The only question in this election really is how the Republicans managed to nominate the one guy Obama might be able to beat.

Imagine if it wasn’t Romney on the stage with Obama but Ryan. He’d be up by 10-15 point right now…

18-1 on October 8, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Suddenly, the media begin asking questions that everyone else asked four years ago about a man who hadn’t even completed one term as Senator and who had no executive experience, running in a distinctly anti-Republican political environment.

yet, even in that campaign, there was some evidence that candidate Obama had flaws — the most notable of which was that while he delivered solid performances in the debates against McCain, he was far from the champion performer that many expected.

Look, Chris, bless your heart, but ya’ll are waaaaayyyy late to this party. You can start the post mortems now, but you have to simultaneously admit that there was evidence and that you ignored it.

ted c on October 8, 2012 at 12:31 PM

A while back I posted something to do with Obama as an incumbent. How he is uncomfortable in this position. He is and it shows.
It is easy and correct to say he is not used to having a record he must must defend.
However, I think Obama’s issue, while related, are a bit deeper than that.
In attacking his record, Obama is facing questions regarding his thought processes, decision making and general decisiveness. In short, he sees attacks on his record as attacks on his competence.
I believe he has a real problem dealing with such attacks as he internalizes them and takes it personally.
ANY lawyer should know better.

Jabberwock on October 8, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Debate we much.

JohnD13 on October 8, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Just take a look at the clown in chief’s biggest supporters, that tells the story right there. The MSM and Hollywood celebrities.

scalleywag on October 8, 2012 at 12:32 PM

His only real claim to fame was that he wrote two memoirs and gave a great speech at the 2004 Democratic convention.

Wouldn’t exactly call it great. Besides “we’re not red states or blue states we’re the United States,” can anyone remember and quote anything else this man has said?? None of his speeches – none of them – and that includes the vaunted 2004 Dem Convention speech that launched him into the national spotlight, have been in any way memorable. He says nothing.

crazy_legs on October 8, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Next big media discovery: Joe Biden isn’t all that good at debates and never has been.

Curtiss on October 8, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Are some beginning to see that the suit, chair and podium are indeed empty? Hmmmm…. I am not going to hold by breath on that one. If ever there was a time to say “I told you so,” this would definitely qualify. So: I TOLD YOU SO!!!! Many knew from the start just what a charlatan the current occupant of the WH is, but did the leftist media want to listen, of course not, they were too busy worshiping the false idol and looking for bits of his hair that was shed so they could build their private shrines. This is no surprise for a person that cannot speak well away from the teleprompter isn’t exactly going to do well in a debate where answers may have to be on the fly.

TQM38a on October 8, 2012 at 12:35 PM

After all, this was a man who in his first run for national office not only outmaneuvered the Clinton family to win the Democratic presidential nomination…

No one seems to remember the whole of Obama’s 2008 strategy. He did not win the primary – he manipulated the system and race-baited the convention rules committee. The fix was in.

Firstly, the rules for selection by caucus were not so well established, nor were they well understood. Obama sent people into the States, Districts, Counties, etc. whose primaries were determined by caucus to study the caucus rules, looking for ways to exploit them. Many Clinton supporters in these caucuses were furious at the way they felt the rules had been unfairly exploited against them. The caucuses required physical attendance, so the Obama folks deliberately dragged out the process; delay upon delay; repetitive speechifying by the Obama folks – all targeted to outlasting the attrition of Clinton’s supporters who were not prepared to be there hour after hour after hour all night long.

Secondly, remember the rules change in mid-campaign that awarded Obama delegates in Michigan and Florida where he did not compete?

Oh yes, the fix was in.

ss396 on October 8, 2012 at 12:37 PM

18-1 on October 8, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Great list, however:

8) Gas prices more then double. (Due to his placing a moratorium on oil drilling in the Gulf and elsewhere.)

the new aesthetic on October 8, 2012 at 12:37 PM

Rocks on October 8, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Yep, that’s why I agreed that my opposition to Obama was indeed based on color: he was a green banana! In no way ripe or ready to be the top banana, but determined to build his rep and name recognition. (he had ‘a peel’ for certain people amirite?)

The fact that his team out maneuvered the Clinton machine was the first real shock of the campaign season because he was running on nothing but potential. That’s not how you hire a CEO, but we were having an American Idol presidency and Obama got voted the top ‘Not Bush’.

So now we have a better idea of what happens when you’re lead by the narrative spewing Journ-O-list media class towards their favored happy ending with a Cinderella candidate: he turns back into a pumpkin and prospect turn from good to gourd. So this is Barack Obama’s political journey, from green banana to pumpkinhead. At least he and his family will be well looked after, and the rest of us will be better off with a real leader in the White House.

CitizenEgg on October 8, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Captain EO!!!

(Extremely Overrated!!!)

Marcola on October 8, 2012 at 12:41 PM

The problem is not that 0bama is overrated.

The problem is that 0bama is UNDERRATED.

As an intentional destroyer of the USA.

Too many of you people think that he has brought all this about because he is incompetent and ignorant.

NO,
He has brought this about because he was raised from infancy to hate the USA, Capitalism, and western civilization in general, and is intentionally doing all he can to remake it into a second world marxist / maoist hellhole.

LegendHasIt on October 8, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Heh

Schadenfreude on October 8, 2012 at 12:42 PM

Fraud is a better term.

Philly on October 8, 2012 at 12:42 PM

LegendHasIt on October 8, 2012 at 12:42 PM

+ 55% US voters!!!

Schadenfreude on October 8, 2012 at 12:43 PM

It is hard to beat a person who is on three sides of every issue with each response, and after an entire debate has taken 20 to 50 sides of them. Which of his sides do you attack?

astonerii on October 8, 2012 at 12:17 PM

I guess this is the level of obtuseness required to vote for Obama after four years of failure… Thanks for the demonstration.

ghostwriter on October 8, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Four years ago, that question would have been unimaginable.

Mostly because anyone who dared ask that question was branded a racist (among other things).

What we saw in 2008 was affirmative action applied to determine the POTUS. The result… …

taznar on October 8, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Obama is a charlatanic/thuggish fraud and pox on the land. She’ll never be the same after him. He is demonic. Those who brung him should burn in Hades, slowly.

Schadenfreude on October 8, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Obama has been over rated ever since his birth was announced in the paper. His potential even at that young of an age was far lower than the worst grading he has ever been given. I here some people have tracked back to Obama’s birth a comet in the sky heralding his coming and witnessed kings from foreign lands bringing him incense and gold.

astonerii on October 8, 2012 at 12:07 PM

I missed this post. I guess that I may have misjudged you.

ghostwriter on October 8, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Mr. Obama made clear to advisers that he was not happy about debating Mr. Romney, whom he views with disdain. It was something to endure, rather than an opportunity, aides said.

This from the New York Times???

What about the 70 million people who watched the debate, who will also decide whom they want as President for the next four years? Does Obama also view THEM with disdain?

Steve Z on October 8, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Mark my prediction…….O’Bama will insist on a teleprompter at the next debate.

That’s ridiculous.

ghostwriter on October 8, 2012 at 12:47 PM

his from the New York Times???

What about the 70 million people who watched the debate, who will also decide whom they want as President for the next four years? Does Obama also view THEM with disdain?

Steve Z on October 8, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Yes.

ghostwriter on October 8, 2012 at 12:48 PM

This can’t be! His grades prove it!

Oh, wait.

viking01 on October 8, 2012 at 12:49 PM

…the media’s knee pads are wearing out?

KOOLAID2 on October 8, 2012 at 12:49 PM

This is just another one of those “Obama failed because he is so awesome” articles. In this version, Obama isn’t cut out for the mean, nasty, rough-and-tumble world of politics, because he’s so cool, cautious, and pragmatic. He’s above the fray of a Clinton or a Romney, who can fake sincerity.

Baerwulf on October 8, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Four years ago, that question would have been unimaginable

Years from now, 2006 to 2008 will be viewed as one of the great moments in American media malfeasance. All of the evidence that Obama was a poor candidate with little to no experience and a very dubious past was there in plain sight but the media deliberately chose to ignore it and instead focused on the hype, smoke and mirrors, and built a cult of personality. The media chose to help build and expand that grand illusion. No attempt was made to actually report on Obama’s past, his experience, his school records, his associates, or any real factual information regarding candidate Obama. At the same time, the media parachute-dropped brigades of reporters into Wasilla, Alaska to dig through dumpsters, harass the inhabitants, and explore every nook and cranny for the smallest amount of dirt on Sarah Palin. Her experience as mayor and governor were belittled, not only by the opposition party, but by the media itself. Hoards of those same reporters descended on Juneau to explore every detail of her experience as governor and on the natural resources board. Yet no similar investigation of candidate Obama’s record as state senator or community organizer was even attempted.

The media was complicit in the fraud that is Obama.

AZfederalist on October 8, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Obama has been over rated ever since his birth was announced in the paper.

astonerii on October 8, 2012 at 12:07 PM

do they have newspapers in Kenya? :-)…ok, not a birther here, just couldn’t help myself :-)…

jimver on October 8, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Some of us got that clue long ago Sherlock.

I wonder will he run to the right?

Speakup on October 8, 2012 at 12:57 PM

We should heckle him at every campaign appearance with the ‘Over Rated, Over Rated‘ chant

faraway on October 8, 2012 at 12:59 PM

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