Reince Priebus: Let’s face it, Joe Biden is a “gifted orator”

posted at 6:41 pm on October 8, 2012 by Allahpundit

High five to Reince for getting this out with a straight face. It’s one thing to ask him to perform basic talking-points puffery for the party by raising expectations for the Democrats at the debate, it’s another to ask him to articulate thoughts no human being has ever had. Not even Debbie Wasserman-Schultz could have made it through this line without a nervous giggle. Compare the first clip below, recorded yesterday, to the second, recorded just before the convention. A heroic effort at salesmanship by the chairman while the chips are down.

Actual headline from The Hill this weekend: “Dems hope Biden can blunt Romney momentum post-debate.” That’s what happens when your King decides it’s beneath him to have to debate the opposition:

The focus on Mr. Biden comes as the campaign tries to diagnose what went wrong in Denver and what to do about it. Advisers had seen two presidents during practice debates, one who had been listless and passive two nights before and another energetic and aggressive the next night. It turned out the former was the one who showed up in Denver…

Mr. Obama does not like debates to begin with, aides have long said, viewing them as media-driven gamesmanship. He did not do all that well in 2008 but benefited from Senator John McCain’s grumpy performances. Mr. Obama made clear to advisers that he was not happy about debating Mr. Romney, whom he views with disdain. It was something to endure, rather than an opportunity, aides said.

Here’s the thing about Reince’s spin for the ages, though: I am a little worried about Thursday’s debate. Not because Biden is a (heh) “gifted orator” or because I’m a dirty, dirty eeyore, but because expectations are so impossibly low that he’s guaranteed to overperform. What could “Joe Bidenopoulos” possibly say up there to make reporters come away thinking, “I thought he’d be sharper”? He’s not going to break out his action figures for playtime at the podium. He’s not that kind of doofus; he’s the kind of doofus who lobbies against the Bin Laden raid. After O’s meltdown in Denver, realistically all Biden has to do to succeed is pound the table and keep Ryan on the defensive with angry accusations about puttin’ the middle class back in chains, etc. The left will treat an angry performance as some sort of righteous catharsis after Obama’s passivity last week, and the media, which is so hungry for a Democratic “comeback” narrative that they’ve already started writing it, will happily declare Biden the winner for using “style” to trump Ryan’s substance or whatever. Remember, they love to punish candidates who underperform on retail politics. That’s the danger for Ryan on Thursday: No matter how sharp he is, the “comeback” bias plus Biden’s alleged ability to “connect” with the average joe will have the media deck stacked against him from the beginning.



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Bmore on October 8, 2012 at 6:42 PM

Absolutely. He’s the gift that keeps on giving.

WryTrvllr on October 8, 2012 at 6:42 PM

Joe Biden as Ruprecht the Monkey Boy

ted c on October 8, 2012 at 6:43 PM

Ok ,here it is in my political “Butter ‘em with BS “translation book:
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“Gifted orator”=brainless idiot

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on October 8, 2012 at 6:43 PM

Makes sense. When Joe speaks it’s like a gift to the GOP.

Flange on October 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM

BURIED FOR THE LAST FOURRRR YEAAAARSSSSS

You’re welcome. Debate won.

blatantblue on October 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM

well, axeltruf is prepping him, so that is who Ryan will be facing

runner on October 8, 2012 at 6:45 PM

The Wonk vs The Donk—-down goes Biden!

hillsoftx on October 8, 2012 at 6:46 PM

Yes, he is gifted orally…oh wait, orator? Not seeing that one.

msupertas on October 8, 2012 at 6:46 PM

Nobody messes with ol’ Joe.

John the Libertarian on October 8, 2012 at 6:46 PM

Rope-a-dope…

Seven Percent Solution on October 8, 2012 at 6:48 PM

I guess the Newsweek donor scandal fell with a thud, so that’s why we’re talking about Biden.

Corporal Tunnel on October 8, 2012 at 6:48 PM

I was just at Huffington Post. They feel certain Biden will wipe the floor with Ryan. One thinks he should spend the entire debate asking about Romney’s tax returns. Biden will not have to be as “nice” as Obama was in Colorado, he can call Ryan on all of Romney’s lies. LOL

Night Owl on October 8, 2012 at 6:48 PM

Lighten up AP!

Ryan could pull a Biden. Here’s a suggestion from one of Ace’s posters:

I still think Ryan should just come out shirtless and look in the camera and say:

Hey Girl!
Right now I gotta get to Debating this old guy,
But I would much rather Bedating you.

http://minx.cc/?post=333618

Go get ‘em Ryan!

Cody1991 on October 8, 2012 at 6:48 PM

Reince Priebus: Let’s face it, Joe Biden is a “gifted orator”

We might as well face it. No one messes with Joe.

Obama and Biden are almost the definition of “participation” ribbons.

Fallon on October 8, 2012 at 6:49 PM

This is Magna Cum Laude boy vs. Special Ed Ted—America will have a soft heart for Slow Joe, so the real danger is Paul going “balls of fury” on Joe…just needs to be a calculated pace with convincing points and clear rebuttals, nothing over the top….

hillsoftx on October 8, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Cmon. Yes, he is gaffe prone but he gave a better speech at the DNC than Obummer. And you are not a Senator for a century or two without learning some tricks. So: Dont!Get!Cocky!Guys!

Valkyriepundit on October 8, 2012 at 6:49 PM

of course, after prepping with axelturf, gifted orator turns to his old prep buddies Jim B and John H, for further fluidity

runner on October 8, 2012 at 6:50 PM

When Ryan is doing numerical num-chucking on Biden, America will see what a DUNCE we have for a VP.

blatantblue on October 8, 2012 at 6:51 PM

Look, I know Biden is an idiot who can say nearly anything at any given time, but he does decent in a debate setting. All he has to do is NOT implode and go off the deep end, which I think even he can manage for an hour. If he does that, the media will say its a tie or he wins.

I expect Ryan and team to treat this as is a serious contender out there. We cant afford any huge screw ups. Lord knows we are held to different standards. I have confidence in Ryan and we cant not treat Joe as the village idiot out there. It has to be taken seriously.

bucsox79 on October 8, 2012 at 6:52 PM

I’m just imagining one line from Ryan — “y’know, I’ve been in the House for a while, I’m Chairman for the Committee on Budget, I’m on the Ways and Means committee, and I’m used to dealing with complex and far-reaching legislation….but what just came out of your mouth doesn’t even make sense. How are we supposed to debate if you won’t even speak English?”

cthulhu on October 8, 2012 at 6:53 PM

I expect Ryan and team to treat this as is a serious contender out there. We cant afford any huge screw ups. Lord knows we are held to different standards. I have confidence in Ryan and we cant not treat Joe as the village idiot out there. It has to be taken seriously.

bucsox79 on October 8, 2012 at 6:52 PM

I agree.

I don’t think they are taking this lightly.

blatantblue on October 8, 2012 at 6:54 PM

Crazy Uncle Joe is especially gifted when he’s gumming obama’s “big stick”.

Pork-Chop on October 8, 2012 at 6:54 PM

C’mon Mr. ‘Trillion Dollar Tax INCREASE’ is a Master – Debater, isn’t he?

Southern by choice22 on October 8, 2012 at 6:54 PM

How is the Ryan-Biden debate going to turn out, 1 Heartbeat Away from the Oval Officelike this…

SWalker on October 8, 2012 at 6:54 PM

No worries, I’ll bet Ol’ Joe will make a big gaffe.

rbj on October 8, 2012 at 6:55 PM

The visual alone will be worth gold.

Ryan: Fresh, bold, leadership
Joe: Old, stale, same-ol’-same-ol’

SouthernGent on October 8, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Let’s not get too overconfident. Biden is a likeable guy to voters. The kind of guy they want to have a beer with. If Ryan comes in and starts talking a bunch of math ‘sorcery’ and acting like Eddie Haskell then he loses on style and that’s what matters in these events.

With that said, I think it’s a mistake for the Obama campaign to think that this VP debate can somehow be taken seriously enough to help the guy at the top of the ticket after his last performance.

Corporal Tunnel on October 8, 2012 at 6:55 PM

News Item: “Biden Takes 6 Days Off Campaign Trail”
…yeah it will take that long to pull his feet out of his mouth from his MOST RECENT verbal blunders.

bumbling Bite-Me biden = the ill-informed, tactless, obnoxious, loudmouthed, bloviating rhetorical time-bomb gift that keeps on giving to the Romney/Ryan campaign. (That’s Bite-Me’s ONLY “gift.”)

Ryan could be as stoned on choom as OBOZO was in his first Romney debate, and he’ll still crush Bite-Me.

Here are some choice quotes (i.e., “gifts”) from Bite-Me biden – one of the least qualified people for ANY elected office in America (EXCEPT “You Lie!” hussein, of course):.

Biden: “…right now I don’t believe he (hussein) is (ready to be president). The presidency is not something that leads itself to on-the-job training”.

Biden: ” I would be honored to run with or against John McCain. He’d leave the country better off.”

Biden: hussein is “the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.”

Biden: the OBOZO recession is “the greatest recession in the history of the American Republic.”
(Actually, the Great Depression was worse for America.)

Biden: “Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America.” “Quite frankly it might have been a better pick than me.”

Biden: “Raising taxes is patriotic”.

Biden: “No Chance” Jill And Michelle Would Have Succeeded In Life Without Government Help

Biden: “You’re darned right Obama and I want to raise a trillion dollars in new taxes.”

Biden in Virginia Speech: ‘With You, We Can Win North Carolina Again!’

Biden: “When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt (1) got on the television (2) and didn’t just talk about, you know, Princes of Greed. He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened.’” (3)
THE REAL FACTS: (1) Hoover was then President, not Roosevelt. Hoover addressed the nation by primarily by newspaper. (This was well before the lunatic-left socialist media turned most newspapers into left-wing propaganda sheets.)
(2) Television wasn’t around then: there were no TV broadcasts and nobody had a TV in their home.
(3) If he had known Bite-Me, Roosevelt would probably have said: “We have nothing to fear, but Biden himself.”

TeaPartyNation on October 8, 2012 at 6:56 PM

the obligatory mitt romney style:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTCRwi71_ns
a meme has been born…

nathor on October 8, 2012 at 6:56 PM

I think Priebus meant that Joe is a master debater.

profitsbeard on October 8, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Totally agree with AP on this one. This is what we call in hockey a “trap game.” It’s one you should win, but it’s against a team with lots to lose and incentive to give it 110%, so you can’t come out flat.

Ryan should bury this guy, but he’s got to have his head in the game.

Red Cloud on October 8, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Gifted as in special as in short school bus.

hepcat on October 8, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Mr. Obama made clear to advisers that he was not happy about debating Mr. Romney, whom he views with disdain. It was something to endure, rather than an opportunity, aides said.

If this doesn’t summarize Dear Leader I don’t know what does.

What an arrogant punk.

gophergirl on October 8, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Biden a “gifted orator”?

Yeah, right. Ever notice when Joey is really throwing down the bullshit he starts talking faster and louder?

Maybe he can impress Ryan with the fact that he’s so intelligent. Just ask Joey, he’ll tell you how smart he is.

GarandFan on October 8, 2012 at 6:59 PM

I still say The Sheriff is gonna get up there and fake a heart attack….

….or show up at the wrong venue….

BigWyo on October 8, 2012 at 6:59 PM

I’ve gone forward in my time machine, and during the debate Biden actually calls Big Bird “Big Turd” and doesn’t catch the gaffe until a sentence or two later.

TXUS on October 8, 2012 at 6:59 PM

ryan needs some funny lines, something similar to, “recession is when your nieghbor loses his job, depression is when you lose yours, and recovery is when obama loses his.”

Dr. Demento on October 8, 2012 at 7:00 PM

Bayonet+Jolt Cola+microphone=Rich, thick, crazy, bloggy goodness.

Christien on October 8, 2012 at 7:00 PM

Let’s not get too overconfident. Biden is a likeable guy to voters. The kind of guy they want to have a beer with. If Ryan comes in and starts talking a bunch of math ‘sorcery’ and acting like Eddie Haskell then he loses on style and that’s what matters in these events.

With that said, I think it’s a mistake for the Obama campaign to think that this VP debate can somehow be taken seriously enough to help the guy at the top of the ticket after his last performance.

Corporal Tunnel on October 8, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Yes, anything can happen.

It’s important not to get overly confident.

Having said that, I am hoping that Joe will go for the always difficult triple gaffe – a gaffe within a gaffe –within a gaffe.

Chip on October 8, 2012 at 7:01 PM

I’ve gone forward in my time machine, and during the debate Biden actually calls Big Bird “Big Turd” and doesn’t catch the gaffe until a sentence or two later.

TXUS on October 8, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Yes, I was their in my time machine as well, Biden only got the gaff when Big Bird jumped up out of the audience and slapped the feathers off Joe’s head…

SWalker on October 8, 2012 at 7:01 PM

All Ryan has to do is explain that they don’t count those who have given up looking for work in the jobs report and it’s game over.

I bet 85% of the people watching on Thursday will go – what the hell?!?!?!

gophergirl on October 8, 2012 at 7:02 PM

“Special & Gifted”???

Joe has to wear a helmet & goggles to make a Peanut Butter & Jelly Sandwich.

portlandon on October 8, 2012 at 7:02 PM

I expect the Ryan/Biden debate to turn out the same way the Romney/Obama debate did – with the roles reversed.

Romney schooled BO and scolded him. An accomplished, older man chastised a frivolous younger man.

Ryan will take the ‘wily’ old pol to task with facts, clarity and a sense of mission. The younger viewers/voters are going to love it. So will those of us who are older.

Cody1991 on October 8, 2012 at 7:02 PM

If Palin can beat Joe in a debate, than so can Ryan.

Johnny 100 Pesos on October 8, 2012 at 7:04 PM

Yes all Biden has to do is do an average job and spout talking points and the media will do the rest. Watch.

CW on October 8, 2012 at 7:04 PM

I still say The Sheriff is gonna get up there and fake a heart attack….

….or show up at the wrong venue….

BigWyo on October 8, 2012 at 6:59 PM

I hope he shows up in a dress.

VegasRick on October 8, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Joe Biden is like the typical Democratic congressman after three beers.

hepcat on October 8, 2012 at 7:05 PM

GaffeBiden will be throwing Donkey Poo,cometh Thursday!!

canopfor on October 8, 2012 at 7:05 PM

“Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America. Quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me.” –Joe Biden, speaking at a town hall meeting in Nashua, New Hampshire, Sept. 10, 2008 (Source)

Sometimes he is right.

KMC1 on October 8, 2012 at 7:06 PM

Come Thursday,the score will be a Double,
and with the second Presidential Debate,

a Trifecta Babyeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

canopfor on October 8, 2012 at 7:08 PM

…Biteme has been debating and running for office for decades…don’t be selling him short…that squirrel seems to find the nut everytime… when he absolutley has too!

KOOLAID2 on October 8, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Joe Biden gaffes and outright lies from his VP debate with Palin in 2008:

1. TAX VOTE: Biden said McCain voted “the exact same way” as Obama to increase taxes on Americans earning just $42,000, but McCain DID NOT VOTE THAT WAY.

2. AHMEDINIJAD MEETING: Joe Biden lied when he said that Barack Obama never said that he would sit down unconditionally with Mahmoud Ahmedinijad of Iran. Barack Obama did say specifically, and Joe Biden attacked him for it.

3. OFFSHORE OIL DRILLING: Biden said, “Drill we must.” But Biden has opposed offshore drilling and even compared offshore drilling to “raping” the Outer Continental Shelf.”

4. TROOP FUNDING: Joe Biden lied when he indicated that John McCain and Barack Obama voted the same way against funding the troops in the field. John McCain opposed a bill that included a timeline, that the President of the United States had already said he would veto regardless of it’s passage.

5. OPPOSING CLEAN COAL: Biden says he’s always been for clean coal, but he just told a voter that he is against clean coal and any new coal plants in America and has a record of voting against clean coal and coal in the U.S. Senate.

6. ALERNATIVE ENERGY VOTES: According to FactCheck.org, Biden is exaggerating and overstating John McCain’s record voting for alternative energy when he says he voted against it 23 times.

7. HEALTH INSURANCE: Biden falsely said McCain will raise taxes on people’s health insurance coverage — they get a tax credit to offset any tax hike. Independent fact checkers have confirmed this attack is false

8. OIL TAXES: Biden falsely said Palin supported a windfall profits tax in Alaska — she reformed the state tax and revenue system, it’s not a windfall profits tax.

9. AFGHANISTAN / GEN. MCKIERNAN COMMENTS: Biden said that top military commander in Iraq said the principles of the surge could not be applied to Afghanistan, but the commander of NATO’s International Security Assistance Force Gen. David D. McKiernan said that there were principles of the surge strategy, including working with tribes, that could be applied in Afghanistan.

10. REGULATION: Biden falsely said McCain weakened regulation — he actually called for more regulation on Fannie and Freddie.

11. IRAQ: When Joe Biden lied when he said that John McCain was “dead wrong on Iraq”, because Joe Biden shared the same vote to authorize the war and differed on the surge strategy where they John McCain has been proven right.

12. TAX INCREASES: Biden said Americans earning less than $250,000 wouldn’t see higher taxes, but the Obama-Biden tax plan would raise taxes on individuals making $200,000 or more.

13. BAILOUT: Biden said the economic rescue legislation matches the four principles that Obama laid out, but in reality it doesn’t meet two of the four principles that Obama outlined on Sept. 19, which were that it include an emergency economic stimulus package, and that it be part of “part of a globally coordinated effort with our partners in the G-20.”

14. REAGAN TAX RATES: Biden is wrong in saying that under Obama, Americans won’t pay any more in taxes then they did under Reagan.

hepcat on October 8, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Corporal Tunnel on October 8, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Actually, Biden comes off as a pompous, blowhard, career politician (BIRM) who loves the sound of his own voice so much that he has never met a microphone into which he hasn’t gibbered like a fool.

Christien on October 8, 2012 at 7:08 PM

The difference for Biden this time, though, is the fact he has a lousy record to defend. He is good in a debate setting, but it’s not easy to sit there and say you have a plan to get people back to work when they’ve had four years to do so and have only gotten the rate (supposedly) back to what they “inherited”. Ryan can be just as folksy as Biden, and he’s certainly faced more hostile questioning than Biden has recently. Keep in mind, it’s been 4 years since the latter has debated anyone, too.

I’m not expecting a blowout, but I do think Ryan will hold his own. If Biden comes out too aggressive, or has too many memes he wants to hit, I think it’s more likely he’ll screw up.

changer1701 on October 8, 2012 at 7:08 PM

The left might want a Democratic comeback…but I am not so sure that will happen. No matter how hard the media tries.

Terrye on October 8, 2012 at 7:09 PM

I think Biden is in a similar situation that Palin was in before the debate four years ago. She showed up and held her own and that was good enough. Same for Biden. He makes an ass of himself on a regular basis on the stump, but I can’t remember him ever screwing up in any of the 2008 debates.

Mark1971 on October 8, 2012 at 7:10 PM

hepcat on October 8, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Very interesting. Thanks.

Johnny 100 Pesos on October 8, 2012 at 7:10 PM

All Ryan has to do is explain that they don’t count those who have given up looking for work in the jobs report and it’s game over.

I bet 85% of the people watching on Thursday will go – what the hell?!?!?!

gophergirl on October 8, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Don’t underestimate the “babe” factor either. The wimmenzes, I’m told, think Pauly boy is hawt and see Biden as kinda dirty-old-manish, whether they D, R, or I. No?

TXUS on October 8, 2012 at 7:11 PM

Clueless Joe Jackass.

Joe Mama on October 8, 2012 at 7:11 PM

Reince Priebus: Let’s face it, Joe Biden is a “gifted orator”

Sure, but can he speak in public?

hawkdriver on October 8, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Biden has lived in the beltway bubble for decades…

… He is surrounded by “yes men”, fawned over by the press, and all his gaffs are immediately excused away.

I’m sure who ever is going to moderate the debate will cover and protect Plugs to the bitter end…

… but once again, the American people will see the stark contrasts of the two candidates without the filter of the media.

In Paul Ryan, I trust…

Seven Percent Solution on October 8, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Ryan will easily win this debate. He just needs to be himself. Hopefully he isn’t distracted because of the season. I know he is thinking about buck.

Bmore on October 8, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Reince Priebus

I really like this guy, but I can’t stand his name, so I call him “Prince Reebus”. Try it.

SailorMark on October 8, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Let’s remember that Ryan is a regular on news shows “debating” against a hostile host and usually a combative Dem shill (or two or three) and he cleans their clocks. Paul will do fine.

I wish he would be doing a town hall debate. Paul excels in that format.

PackerBronco on October 8, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Here’s your Biden debate metric: If he doesn’t have you laughing AT him by the end, he failed miserably.

The guy is nothing more than comic relief, usually inadvertent.

Christien on October 8, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Ryan will easily win this debate. He just needs to be himself. Hopefully he isn’t distracted because of the season. I know he is thinking about buck.

Bmore on October 8, 2012 at 7:12 PM

He should show up wearing orange.

PackerBronco on October 8, 2012 at 7:14 PM

Don’t underestimate the “babe” factor either. The wimmenzes, I’m told, think Pauly boy is hawt and see Biden as kinda dirty-old-manish, whether they D, R, or I. No?

TXUS on October 8, 2012 at 7:11 PM

My sisters in Czech Republic as does my mother, agree. Babe was the exact word they used.

JPeterman on October 8, 2012 at 7:14 PM

Everyone has skeletons in their closet, things they don’t want people to know, things that are embarrassing, or even potentially damaging to their status or ego’s, and have reason to fear that pressure will cause these skeletons, or at least parts of them, to fall out of the closet at the most inopportune moment, and no one more so than politicians.

Biden will, at some point in the debate, begin to say something in a moment of excitement or pique, and rather than the stinging rebuttal or witticism he intended, a big old bone will fall right out of his mouth, falling onto the podium before him, for all the world to see, *THUMP*, and roll off onto the floor, *THUD*.

Perhaps the pressure of that bone’s presence, lying there in full view, no one to scurry out and try to shove it back into Biden’s mouth, or drag it out of sight behind the podium, will cause him to allow other bones to fall, tripping, from his tongue, clattering hollowly,as they, too, fall to the floor in a heap.

thatsafactjack on October 8, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Don’t underestimate the “babe” factor either. The wimmenzes, I’m told, think Pauly boy is hawt and see Biden as kinda dirty-old-manish, whether they D, R, or I. No?

TXUS on October 8, 2012 at 7:11 PM

Ryan is hawt in the bookish nerdish yummy sort of way.

gophergirl on October 8, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Come on guys…. Ryan is “articulate, bright and clean”! I think he can hold his own against that moron.

kcd on October 8, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Let’s not get too overconfident. Biden is a likeable guy to voters. The kind of guy they want to have a beer with. If Ryan comes in and starts talking a bunch of math ‘sorcery’ and acting like Eddie Haskell then he loses on style and that’s what matters in these events.

The voters who matter, i.e. swing voters, don’t want a guy to have a beer with. They want someone who can fix the country’s problems. Mr. “Likeable” isn’t going to cut it with these folks, regardless of what the media say.

If I’m reading the electorate correctly, if Ryan comes across as serious and with solutions, it won’t matter how much style Biden has.

Ozwitch on October 8, 2012 at 7:15 PM

I think Biden is in a similar situation that Palin was in before the debate four years ago. She showed up and held her own and that was good enough. Same for Biden. He makes an ass of himself on a regular basis on the stump, but I can’t remember him ever screwing up in any of the 2008 debates.

Mark1971 on October 8, 2012 at 7:10 PM

I’ll admit that I am biased towards Palin, but I think that she was a very clear winner. When the media declares a debate a tie, you know it was a republican victory.

You are right, though, Joe in a debate isn’t as silly as Joe in other forums.

P.S.: Want to know something funny? I disagree with his politics, blah blah blah, but I actually find the guy very likable.

Johnny 100 Pesos on October 8, 2012 at 7:16 PM

That is some nifty psyops. Can’t be expectation-setting. Couldn’t do that with a straight face. If the donks are smart they pulled Joe off the campaign for six days to put him in some kind of sensory deprivation chamber. They’re not that smart so they probably have him preparing with some supergenius like, oh, DWS. So this Priebus statement probably hit the mark. Made Joe giggle.

curved space on October 8, 2012 at 7:17 PM

Yep. He’s the Herb Tarlek of male cattle excrement.

98ZJUSMC on October 8, 2012 at 7:17 PM

Im all for us out here joking about Biden and what not. We obviously cant expect Ryan to be anything other than respectful no matter what Joe says. Dont go out there and talk to Joe like he’s an idiot, even if he is. As others have said, for some reason, people see Joe as likeable. (I personally dont get that, but whatever).

Ryan I am sure is smart enough that this cant be taken for granted. Stay respectful, concise, firm, friendly, and just tear apart any lies in the most nicest way possible.

bucsox79 on October 8, 2012 at 7:17 PM

The gift. The gift for gaffe.

DAT60A3 on October 8, 2012 at 7:17 PM

Ryan is hawt in the bookish nerdish yummy sort of way.

gophergirl on October 8, 2012 at 7:15 PM

SUPER Hawt!

kcd on October 8, 2012 at 7:18 PM

but I can’t remember him ever screwing up in any of the 2008 debates.

Mark1971 on October 8, 2012 at 7:10 PM

Actually he did screw up in the sense he was citing a lot of “facts” which were totally untrue and easily shot down. Palin wasn’t a policy wonk, so she lacked the ability to call out the BS.

Now Ryan on the other hand could probably recite the congressional record, chapter and verse. He go full wonk on Biden’s head, but he won’t let Joe get away with the BS either.

Look for Paul to copy Romney’s approach: the first 10 to 20 second he will respond to and totally demolish every “fact” Joe brings up. The rest of his time he will lay an optimistic vision for the future.

PackerBronco on October 8, 2012 at 7:18 PM

I really like this guy, but I can’t stand his name, so I call him “Prince Reebus”. Try it.

SailorMark on October 8, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Like your take, easier for us Texans to pronounce, of course. On the other hand, if I were his father, with an unusual last name to begin with, I don’t think I’d strapped him with a first name like that. This was, arguably, child abuse.

Then again, maybe his middle name is Repeat, as in Reince Repeat Priebus, a catchy phrase, no?

TXUS on October 8, 2012 at 7:19 PM

The thing about Joe is that he’s stupid but he doesn’t know that he’s stupid. In fact, he thinks he’s the smartest of the four candidates. So the WH and the press can soft sell Biden all they want, but Joe ain’t buyin’ it.

PackerBronco on October 8, 2012 at 7:19 PM

If Palin can beat Joe in a debate, than so can Ryan.

Johnny 100 Pesos

Only problem with that argument is Palin didn’t beat Biden. She did better than people expected, but she didn’t beat him.

Folks should temper their expectations for the VP debate. Biden will do fine(better than Obama for sure). Sure, he’ll lie, but he’ll do so convincingly, just like he did last time. I’m expecting a tie at best.

xblade on October 8, 2012 at 7:20 PM

If Ryan speaks and handles himself how he usually does in interviews, he will win.

22044 on October 8, 2012 at 7:21 PM

Here is a zinger for Ryan, after Biden trots out a particularly dumb Dem talking point:

“Clint was right, this is the intellect of the Democratic party.”

Christien on October 8, 2012 at 7:21 PM

TXUS on October 8, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Yeah I probably would have named him Mark or John with that last name.

gophergirl on October 8, 2012 at 7:22 PM

I hope Biden is caught on camera picking his nose….

kcd on October 8, 2012 at 7:22 PM

Ryan zinger #2: “America needs more than a grin, with a body behind it.”

Christien on October 8, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Here’s the thing about Reince’s spin for the ages, though: I am a little worried about Thursday’s debate. Not because Biden is a (heh) “gifted orator” or because I’m a dirty, dirty eeyore, but because expectations are so impossibly low that he’s guaranteed to overperform.

More importantly, Biden has a tendency to make things up that are impossible to refute on the spot. Ryan is going to have a very solid command of the facts and he’s going to have to be able to call Biden out on the spot in order to have the same impact that last week’s debate had. That’s a very tough challenge. Not because Biden is smart, but because he’s shameless.

Caiwyn on October 8, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Ryan in Action,love it,haha!!

Paul Ryan Gets Testy And Ends Interview
posted Oct 8, 2012 6:40pm EDT
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When asked about guns and taxes in an interview with ABC12 in Flint, Michigan. Update: Ryan spokesman Brendan Buck tells BuzzFeed: “The reporter knew he was already well over the allotted time for the interview when he decided to ask a weird question relating gun violence to tax cuts. Ryan responded as anyone would in such a strange situation. When you do nearly 200 interviews in a couple months, eventually you’re going to see a local reporter embarrass himself.”
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/paul-ryan-gets-testy-and-walks-out-of-interview

canopfor on October 8, 2012 at 7:23 PM

Ryan is hawt in the bookish nerdish yummy sort of way.

gophergirl on October 8, 2012 at 7:15 PM

That’s the other key thing here: optics. Ryan will be the fresh-faced, eager beaver talking about solutions…Biden is the old, tired dude best known as a punch line.

changer1701 on October 8, 2012 at 7:25 PM

It should terrify every rational American (that eliminates most of the left) that the president and vice-president of the United States need a teleprompter to sound coherent and competent.

One is a full of himself gaffe-machine, who is missing a few marbles.
The other is a full of himself gaffe-machine who stutters his way through recycled talking points.

It terrifies me that 47% of Americans are not terrified.

bailey24 on October 8, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Then again, maybe his middle name is Repeat, as in Reince Repeat Priebus, a catchy phrase, no?

TXUS on October 8, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Okay, that made me laugh. BTW, I lived in Killeen for a coupla years. Fort Hood, actually.

SailorMark on October 8, 2012 at 7:26 PM

That’s the other key thing here: optics. Ryan will be the fresh-faced, eager beaver talking about solutions…Biden is the old, tired dude best known as a punch line.

changer1701 on October 8, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Ryan is also the man that every Grandma wants to escort her to church on Sunday.

All he has to do is smile that smile and explain things in very simple terms and he’ll win.

gophergirl on October 8, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Joe Biden is the luckiest man on earth and he knows it. Everyone knows he’s a dumbasz. He used to repeat the same lame schtick about some diner he would go to. That was his claim to fame. He used that story for 20 years. He always ran as the “regular guy” candidate even though he had been in politics since 1970. And he was a lawyer before that. He was never a regular guy. He was always a creepy pol( most of them are stiff and creepy).
Don’t google it because all you’ll get for 10 pages is that biker Momma on his lap. Isn’t that cute, the VP of the most important nation on earth has a strange woman sitting on his lap and “flirting”. Politico called him a sex symbol. I just found this out and it grossed me out. Anyway, he’s very lucky and that’s why he’s always smiling. He knows it.

BoxHead1 on October 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM

He should show up wearing orange.

PackerBronco on October 8, 2012 at 7:14 PM

That my friend would be funny!!!

Bmore on October 8, 2012 at 7:31 PM

My sisters in Czech Republic as does my mother, agree. Babe was the exact word they used.

JPeterman on October 8, 2012 at 7:14 PM

Didn’t know you were of Czech heritage. I was married to a Czech once (born here, but second generation) and she and her sisters were and are still among the most beautiful women I’ve ever known. Problem with mine, she was interested more in my “check” backgound, so to speak, her sisters totally different. Right tree, wrong apple. ;-)

TXUS on October 8, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Joe Biden is a “gifted orator”

Maybe I’m just dense, but I don’t get it.

“Gifted orator” has got to be some kind of pun, like “cunning lingust”, doesn’t it? Can someone explain (in PG-13 language) what “gifted orator” means?

malclave on October 8, 2012 at 7:31 PM

thatsafactjack on October 8, 2012 at 7:15 PM

Great visual! Funny too! ; )

Bmore on October 8, 2012 at 7:32 PM

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