Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

posted at 8:01 am on October 7, 2012 by Allahpundit

How slim are the pickings this week? So slim that this guy, who hasn’t mattered politically in at least five years, is the highest-profile guest across the four major shows today. If you want to watch him sell his book and run through the familiar two-step with David Gregory about how the GOP is too radical, then “Meet the Press” is your choice.

If not, no worries. Ninety percent of the chatter on every show this morning will focus on Romney’s humiliation of Obama on Wednesday night, which means we’re in for one of the most enjoyable Sundays in recent memory. Gingrich’s “MTP” showing, in particular, should be chock full of gleeful knife-twisting. The line-up via WaPo:

NBC’s Meet the Press: Arnold Schwarzenegger; Newt Gingrich; Robert Gibbs, Senior Adviser to the Obama campaign; Hilary Rosen, Democratic strategist; Mike Murphy, Republican strategist; Chuck Todd, NBC

CBS’ Face the Nation: David Axelrod, Obama’s senior campaign adviser; Tony LaRussa, manager of the Cardinals; Tommy Lasorda, Dodgers manager; Jane Leavy, author; Michael Gerson, Washington Post; John Fund, The American Spectator; Norah O’Donnell, CBS; John Dickerson, CBS

ABC’s This Week: Robert Gibbs, Obama campaign senior adviser; Ed Gillespie, Romney campaign senior adviser; Bill O’Reilly, Fox News; James Carville, Democratic strategist; Mary Matalin, Republican strategist; Paul Krugman, New York Times; Peggy Noonan, Wall Street Journal; Jonathan Karl, ABC

Fox News Sunday: Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-NH); Gov. Martin O’Malley (D-MD); Brett O’Donnell, political debate coach; Brit Hume, Fox News; Mara Liasson, NPR; Kimberley Strassel, Wall Street Journal; Kirsten Powers, Daily Beast


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What, no Baghdad Barbie? No DWS? Where is the fun in that?

pilamaye on October 7, 2012 at 8:07 AM

Interesting note, I have been seeing ads for Kristen Gilebrand (DEM, NY). No mention of the Democratic party and a whole ad about how corrupt and disgusting Washington DC is. And this is in BLUE NEW YORK!

rob verdi on October 7, 2012 at 8:12 AM

The mystery is which Hilary Rosen will appear? Aren’t there three of them?

onlineanalyst on October 7, 2012 at 8:20 AM

What, no Baghdad Barbie? No DWS? Where is the fun in that?

pilamaye on October 7, 2012 at 8:07 AM

Yeah, where has she been?!

Brat on October 7, 2012 at 8:21 AM

Tony LaRussa, manager of the Cardinals

Missing a “former.”

radjah shelduck on October 7, 2012 at 8:22 AM

I think I’ll pass, but seeing Newt’s name up there does make me wonder how much worse Newt could have humiliated Obama 1 on 1 than even Romney did the other day if Newt didn’t have all the personal baggage that held him back.

gsherin on October 7, 2012 at 8:25 AM

Dayum!! Can’t get a first over at QOTD, nor here. The hell is everyone doing up so early anyway?

I still remember the first time AP got up early to do one of these talking heads thing and he was as surprised as the readers to find himself here in the morning.

anyways, looks like Mitt now has a fighting chance, not cause of the debate but because he allowed himself to be confrontational. We’ll see if it lasts. It can’t be a one and done thing which is a danger for the business type – y’know to assume that since he took care of business that his job here is done.

abobo on October 7, 2012 at 8:25 AM

Same old, same old. Yawn.

conservative pilgrim on October 7, 2012 at 8:26 AM

Ninety percent of the chatter on every show this morning will focus on Romney’s humiliation of Obama on Wednesday night,

But I thought 7.8% unemployment knocked Mitt’s stellar debate performance right out of everyone’s noggin.

Brat on October 7, 2012 at 8:26 AM

Gibbs: Romney is a liar. Axelrod: Romney is a liar. Krugman: We need to spend more money. Schwartzenegger: I’m so awesome.
There you have it! :)

scalleywag on October 7, 2012 at 8:28 AM

abobo on October 7, 2012 at 8:25 AM

The x factor of shenanigans in the town hall forum gives Obama an edge. I’m hoping it backfires and Obama gets tripped up.

conservative pilgrim on October 7, 2012 at 8:33 AM

Gibbs: Romney is a liar. Axelrod: Romney is a liar. Krugman: We need to spend more money. Schwartzenegger: I’m so awesome.
There you have it! :)

scalleywag on October 7, 2012 at 8:28 AM

Heh. Pretty much.

Priscilla on October 7, 2012 at 8:36 AM

Tommy Lasorda, Dodgers manager

Huh? I thought he had died a few years ago. Glad to see I was mistaken.

What, no Baghdad Barbie? No DWS? Where is the fun in that?

pilamaye on October 7, 2012 at 8:07 AM

Yeah, where has she been?!

Brat on October 7, 2012 at 8:21 AM

Benched: DWS MIA in Democrats’ PR Blitz

Wednesday night was the first presidential debate, and Democrats had their various surrogates on hand to talk to the media. Rep. Wasserman-Schultz gave interviews to Univision, 7 News Colorado, and what appears to be a pre-debate interview with an ABC affiliate. She’ll appear on Bloomberg TV this Sunday and she has a new profile in Vogue of all places, but these are not the sort of prime communications assignments she has had in the past.

Currently, Rep. Wasserman-Schultz is on a DNC bus tour making stops in places like Parma, Ohio and Dubuque, Iowa along with Sandra Fluke. These are swing states, so the GOTV efforts there are important. Still, the assignment also has the effect of relegating Debbie to small gatherings of like-minded Democrats and appearances on local news affiliates. Source

Flora Duh on October 7, 2012 at 8:36 AM

Can anyone take Schwarzenegger seriously after we’ve seen who he’s been laying pipe with? Most gigolos would refuse that women service… heck, most juggalos would turn that woman down.

ninjapirate on October 7, 2012 at 8:37 AM

Doesn’t look like there’s anyone in that lineup who will keep the Benghazi or F&F scandals front and center where they should be.

scalleywag on October 7, 2012 at 8:39 AM

Good morning!

was just watching CNN, anchor not too happy with pastors preaching politics…..they never seem to mind it when dems preach at the pulpits, talk about hypocrisy

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 8:40 AM

first question for gibbsy, why didn’t dear leader not talk about the 47%????

gibbsy will call mitt a liar ad nauseum

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 8:42 AM

Doesn’t look like there’s anyone in that lineup who will keep the Benghazi or F&F scandals front and center where they should be.

scalleywag on October 7, 2012 at 8:39 AM

noticed that too…

sweeping those under the rug as SOON as possible

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 8:42 AM

Linda Morrison is on Fox right now.

Naturally Curly on October 7, 2012 at 8:46 AM

FUN would have been having Matthews on one of those shows to talk about his meltdown after the debate and to explain his comment about the president needing to watch more MSNBC propaganda.

scalleywag on October 7, 2012 at 8:46 AM

I think during the Ryan/Biden debate, one question might be designed to goad Ryan into calling, or implying, Biden is a “bad Catholic.” Looking back, that’s part of the reason that Paul Wellstone got into the Senate in 1990. The incumbent Senator in Minnesota (Rudy Boschwitz)–also Jewish–sent out a letter that called Wellstone a bad Jew. The public decided that delivering that verdict was above Senator Boschwitz’s pay grade and it hurt him quite a bit. I hope Ryan doesn’t get dragged into that. That’s a judgement for Biden’s bishop.

It’ll be interesting to see if Gingrich is asked any questions about religion. It’s a way to draw conservatives into the social issues, where the Dems THINK they have an advantage.

RBMN on October 7, 2012 at 8:49 AM

Naturally Curly on October 7, 2012 at 8:46 AM

thanks NC

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 8:49 AM

gibbsy will call mitt a liar ad nauseum

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 8:42 AM

Romney’s got a new ad out today that proves they’re lying about the $5 trillion claim – using none other than Steffie Cutter’s own words – among other sources.

$5 Trillion

Flora Duh on October 7, 2012 at 8:50 AM

thanks NC

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 8:49 AM

You’re welcome and good morning.

Whoa! She’s a lifelong democrat! Even better that she called out the regime on their lies!

Naturally Curly on October 7, 2012 at 8:51 AM

forget about the debate what about the unemployment numbers?
-talking heads

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 8:55 AM

What, no Big Bird?

scalleywag on October 7, 2012 at 8:56 AM

Flora Duh on October 7, 2012 at 8:50 AM

GREAT ad, hopefully this will get to TV screens all over…

i can hear the obama campaign whine, cutter taken out of context waaaaaaaaa

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 8:57 AM

scalleywag on October 7, 2012 at 8:56 AM

that’ll be the first question to Newt

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 8:57 AM

Currently, Rep. Wasserman-Schultz is on a DNC bus tour making stops in places like Parma, Ohio and Dubuque, Iowa along with Sandra Fluke. These are swing states, so the GOTV efforts there are important. Still, the assignment also has the effect of relegating Debbie to small gatherings of like-minded Democrats and appearances on local news affiliates.

Flora Duh on October 7, 2012 at 8:36 AM

Thanks. On the Fluke train, huh. I read that last part as “small minded Democrats.”

Brat on October 7, 2012 at 8:57 AM

Back on US soil and amused to see “Up With Chris Hayes” panel of libby goons all attacking the concept of “small business”. Someone must be getting his ass kicked in the polls now with anything “small business”.

Marcus on October 7, 2012 at 8:59 AM

FUN would have been having Matthews on one of those shows to talk about his meltdown after the debate and to explain his comment about the president needing to watch more MSNBC propaganda.

scalleywag on October 7, 2012 at 8:46 AM

Matthews has his own Sunday show on NBC. It’s on from 10 to 10:30 where I live, before MTP. Should be fun to watch this week. Will they be sitting Shiva for the death of hopenchange?

Naturally Curly on October 7, 2012 at 8:59 AM

Yeah, where has she been?!

Brat on October 7, 2012 at 8:21 AM

They sent her to Siberia – she’s out stumping with Sandra Fluke.

JeffWeimer on October 7, 2012 at 9:00 AM

i feel fact checkers will be the talk of the day as well…

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 9:01 AM

Marcus on October 7, 2012 at 8:59 AM

heh

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 9:01 AM

candy crowley, there is so much pressure for ryan now at the next debate…oooooohhhhhhhh

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 9:03 AM

FUN would have been having Matthews on one of those shows to talk about his meltdown after the debate and to explain his comment about the president needing to watch more MSNBC propaganda.

scalleywag on October 7, 2012 at 8:46 AM

Did you see this?

SNL spoofs MSNBC’s post-debate meltdown

Rational Thought on October 7, 2012 at 9:03 AM

This should be turned into an ad for Romney.

OBAMA’S JOBS FAILURE, IN ONE CHART

During the last two years–the second half of Obama’s term-the population of the U.S. has grown by 2.20%. Jobs have failed to keep up, as the labor force has grown hardly at all, only 0.88%.

What has grown–and this is the true legacy of the Obama disaster–is Americans who are not in the labor force, up by 4.58%, more than double the rate of population growth.

There are, of course, many charts and statistics that document the Obama administration’s comprehensive failure when it comes to jobs and the economy. But with Democrats trying to put a happy face on the nation’s declining job growth, this one from the Senate Budget Committee is a good, simple reminder of what a jobs disaster the last two years have been.

Obama likes to talk about what a mess he inherited from his predecessor. In fact, his successor will inherit something far worse. With millions of Americans chronically unemployed, millions having left the labor force, millions having declared themselves permanently and totally disabled because they can’t find jobs, the next president will face an unemployment problem that is far more deeply entrenched and intractable than the one that Obama confronted and bungled.

Check out this clear chart; devastating for Obama!

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/10/obamas-jobs-failure-in-one-chart.php

mountainaires on October 7, 2012 at 9:04 AM

A PPP poll released October 6 reports Romney advancing in Wisconsin, as Obama’s 7% lead is reduced to a mere 2%. The poll was conducted on October 4-6 among 979 likely voters with a margin of error of 3%.

[snip]

Sadly, the big loser in Wisconsin is Big Bird, with barely half of likely voters holding a favorable impression of the government subsidized Sesame Street resident. Source

Flora Duh on October 7, 2012 at 9:05 AM

O’Malley: “Failed policies of George W. Bush… blah blah blah” Stop running against Bush, Jackass. Get a clue: ROMNEY is the nominee; ROMNEY is the one who demolished Ø in front of millions. Start living in the here-and-now but just stop being Bush-league.

ExpressoBold on October 7, 2012 at 9:08 AM

If any of the Dems who are on today repeat Obama’s line…

We’ve made too much progress to return to the policies that got us into this mess in the first place.

… keep this in mind:

Republicans controlled a majority (2+ out of 3) of the House, Senate, and Presidency from January 3, 1995 to January 3, 2007. Twelve straight years, the first 6 under President Clinton, the second 6 under President Bush. And for the last 4, from January 3, 2003 to January 3, 2007, Republicans controlled all three: the House, Senate, and Presidency.

If Republican policies in general, or the policies of President Bush in particular, had been “what got us into this mess in the first place”, then after 144 consecutive months of Republican control, the last 48 months of which with Republicans controlling the House, Senate, and Presidency, then the economy must really have been horrible at the end of that, right?

Yet unemployment was 4.4% in December 2006.

And the Employment-population ratio was 63.4% in December 2006.

Democrats have held majority control (2+ out of 3) of the House, Senate, and Presidency from January 3, 2007 – present.

If we had the same Employment-population ratio now as we had when Republicans last held the majority, 63.4% of the current civilian noninstitutional population age 16+ would be employed. That population is currently 243,772,000.

63.4% of that population (rounded to thousands) is: 154,551,000

Even if you believe the claim of 873,000 growth in employment reported in September, the total employed was only 142,974,000.

(This represents an Employee-Population ratio of 142,974,000 / 243,772,0 = 58.6507% rounded up to 58.7%.)

But how many jobs short are the Dems from where we were at the end of 12 straight years of majority-Republican control?

154,551,000 – 142,974,000 = 11,577,000 jobs. (

That means that the total increase needed in September to bring employment levels back to where they last were under a Republican majority, would have been 11,577,000 + 873,000 = 12,450,000.

The Dems needed 12.45 Million jobs. They reported 0.87 Million new jobs, and even that was a huge stretch.

Democrats are still 11.58 Million jobs behind where Bush and the Republicans were, percentage of population-wise, in December 2006.

ITguy on October 7, 2012 at 9:09 AM

gibbs looks absoulutely desperate on mtp.

renalin on October 7, 2012 at 9:10 AM

Even if we add 300,000 jobs a month, we’re looking at a prolonged period of suffering — a huge cost from the Great Recession. So that’s kind of a minimal definition of success. Anything less than that, and it’s bad news.

Could someone please ask Krugman about his statement in light of the September jobs report, employers adding 114,000 jobs during the month, being lauded as good news?

Fallon on October 7, 2012 at 9:10 AM

Well Newt’s always fun to watch. And Carvlle is funny when he’s so sheepish around Matalin, he’s gotten more so over the last few years. Love will do that I guess.
O’Reilly and Krugman, two bloviators will be a waste of time though. As for the rest…dull.

Deanna on October 7, 2012 at 9:11 AM

Sadly, the big loser in Wisconsin is Big Bird, with barely half of likely voters holding a favorable impression of the government subsidized Sesame Street resident.

Flora Duh on October 7, 2012 at 9:05 AM

Like so much else in American life, most voters DO NOT KNOW that they pay for Big Bird. They turn on their TV, shove “Madison” or “Tucker” in front of it, and there he is! Well now they know they’re footing the bill for Big Bird, so Zero is forced to defend that to millions of unemployed Americans, explain why THAT government expenditure should not be touched, cannot be trimmed. It’s hilarious! The millions PBS makes selling their licensed merchandise, and we’re STILL borrowing money from China to send them a government check every year. Sickening!

Rational Thought on October 7, 2012 at 9:12 AM

What, no Baghdad Barbie? No DWS? Where is the fun in that?

pilamaye on October 7, 2012 at 8:07 AM

Apparently she’s been parading in Vogue:

http://www.examiner.com/slideshow/mystery-woman

Just washing the mayo out of her hair helps a lot.

disa on October 7, 2012 at 9:12 AM

chuck todd “we are corroding our government”. yes you are chuck.

renalin on October 7, 2012 at 9:13 AM

NBC’s talking heads are absolutely outraged at anyone calling BS on the 7.8% employment figure.

Nobody mocks the Empreror O!

CorporatePiggy on October 7, 2012 at 9:15 AM

renalin on October 7, 2012 at 9:10 AM

gotta wait another 45 minutes before it airs here

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 9:16 AM

CorporatePiggy on October 7, 2012 at 9:15 AM

i’m sure behind the scenes, they know this doesn’t jive but they don’t care, as long as it looks good for obama

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 9:17 AM

gibbsy says obama thrown off by a totally different romney.

i say, look at mitt. he had to prepare for white obama and black obama. who knew yellow obama would show up, yet mitt kicked his butt too.

renalin on October 7, 2012 at 9:18 AM

Still, the assignment also has the effect of relegating Debbie to small gatherings of like-minded Democrats and appearances on local news affiliates.

Flora Duh on October 7, 2012 at 8:36 AM

Thanks. On the Fluke train, huh. I read that last part as “small minded Democrats.”

Brat on October 7, 2012 at 8:57 AM

OK, “like gatherings of small-minded Democrats”
– yeah, that’s better.

disa on October 7, 2012 at 9:18 AM

How is the media providing Americans with objective news coverage this Sunday? Let’s have a gander:

NBC: R; R; D; D; R; D – moderator Liberal

CBS: D; Lib R; R; D; D – moderator Liberal

ABC: D; R; R; D; R; D-Kook; R; D – moderator Liberal

Fox: R; D; R; R; D; R; D – moderator Ind

R – 13
D – 15
Irrelevent – 3

The single fairest grouping of disparate voices in the short history of the Jaibones Sunday Media Bias Roundup. Wonder why today?

Jaibones on October 7, 2012 at 9:19 AM

renalin on October 7, 2012 at 9:18 AM

Good one!

Naturally Curly on October 7, 2012 at 9:21 AM

Rational Thought on October 7, 2012 at 9:03 AM

That was funny but Sharpton was portrayed a little too intelligently, lol.

Fallon on October 7, 2012 at 9:21 AM

gregory reminds viewers that newt called mitt “fundamentally dishonest”

newts answer……..the president had 90 minutes to answer that question. BOOOM!

renalin on October 7, 2012 at 9:21 AM

Las Vegas Review-Journal endorses Mitt Romney – while tearing the boy king a new one.

Flora Duh on October 7, 2012 at 9:21 AM

renalin on October 7, 2012 at 9:21 AM

zing!

can’t wait to watch it…

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 9:22 AM

During the last two years–the second half of Obama’s term-the population of the U.S. has grown by 2.20%. Jobs have failed to keep up, as the labor force has grown hardly at all, only 0.88%.

Well c’mon now! You can’t expect all of those newborn babies to go out and get a job right away can you?/s

Vince on October 7, 2012 at 9:23 AM

Flora Duh on October 7, 2012 at 9:21 AM

good linky…are they usually lib friendly? one of harry’s go to papers?

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 9:24 AM

candy using an old ohio poll instead of the latest poll showing a tighter race….

no propping up there
/

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 9:25 AM

Las Vegas Review-Journal endorses Mitt Romney – while tearing the boy king a new one.

Flora Duh on October 7, 2012 at 9:21 AM

Very nice.

Marcus on October 7, 2012 at 9:27 AM

Las Vegas Review-Journal endorses Mitt Romney – while tearing the boy king a new one.

Flora Duh on October 7, 2012 at 9:21 AM

Good link. Reading that, one has got to wonder what in the WORLD all the liberal papers endorsing Zero will write! What can they POSSIBLY say about the past 4 years, and the next under a Zero administration, that would make someone vote for him? There is nothing. Nothing at all. The rhetorical gymnastics in those endorsements are going to be spectacular.

Rational Thought on October 7, 2012 at 9:27 AM

Mark Steyn’s column this weekend at NRO, “Sesame Nation” has this terrific (and devastating) observation about our federal government’s priorities.

If Americans can’t muster the will to make Big Bird leave the government nest, they certainly will never reform Medicare. Just before the debate in Denver, in the general backstage mêlée, a commentator pointed out Valerie Jarrett, who is officially “assistant to the president for public engagement and intergovernmental affairs,” a vital position which certainly stimulates the luxury-length business-card industry. Not one in 100,000 Americans knows what she looks like, but she declines to take the risk of passing among the rude peasantry without the protection of a Secret Service detail. Leon Panetta, the defense secretary, has a private jet to fly him home from Washington every weekend.

The queen of the Netherlands flies commercial, so does the queen of Denmark. Prince William and his lovely bride, whom at least as many people want to get a piece of as Valerie Jarrett or Leon Panetta, flew to Los Angeles on a Royal Canadian Air Force boneshaker. It is profoundly unrepublican when minor public officials assume that private planes and entourages to hold the masses at bay are a standard perk of office. And it is even more disturbing that tens of millions of Americans are accepting of this. The entitlements are complicated, and will take some years and much negotiation. But, in a Romney administration, rolling back the nickel’n’dime stuff — i.e., the million’n’billion stuff — should start on Day One.

Big Bird, indeed!

onlineanalyst on October 7, 2012 at 9:28 AM

good linky…are they usually lib friendly? one of harry’s go to papers?

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Dunno.

candy using an old ohio poll instead of the latest poll showing a tighter race….

no propping up there
/

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 9:25 AM

She probably got it from gummeandpokeme. He’s good at quoting old polls.

Flora Duh on October 7, 2012 at 9:31 AM

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 9:17 AM

Yes. And they’ve tarred and feathered Lehrer.

The future debate moderators have are on notice – hammer Romney, defend Bark.

CorporatePiggy on October 7, 2012 at 9:32 AM

rosen saying that style over substance will end up with obama winning in the end…with a straight face.

renalin on October 7, 2012 at 9:39 AM

Rasmussen shows same result as yesterday, 49-47, so that means that Saturday’s polling was about the same as Wednesday’s, which is also what PPP tweeted was happening.

The 7.8 number was the Atomic Bomb that destroyed the debate and the Romney campaign.

gumbyandpokey on October 7, 2012 at 9:40 AM

oops other way around.

renalin on October 7, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Flora Duh on October 7, 2012 at 9:31 AM

probably…

CorporatePiggy on October 7, 2012 at 9:32 AM

candy crowley will do her best no doubt….

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 9:43 AM

NBC has Ahnohld talking now so it is worth noting The Wit and Wisdom Of Arnold Schwartzeneger

CorporatePiggy on October 7, 2012 at 9:45 AM

The 7.8 number was the Atomic Bomb that destroyed the debate and the Romney campaign.

gumbyandpokey on October 7, 2012 at 9:40 AM

the atomic bomb was the stench obama left on the stage wednesday nite.

robert gibbs used the “we saw a different mitt romney on stage that night”.

mitt will ask obama in the next debate, what if a different putin shows up.

atomic question BOOOOOOOM!

renalin on October 7, 2012 at 9:50 AM

Ninety percent of the chatter on every show this morning will focus on Romney’s humiliation of Obama on Wednesday night,

But I thought 7.8% unemployment knocked Mitt’s stellar debate performance right out of everyone’s noggin.

Brat on October 7, 2012 at 8:26 AM

That was JUST Dumbyandhokey.

gumbyandpokey on October 7, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Heh…you proved my point from the other thread.

BTW what you are doing is called spamming and against the TOS.
I wonder if Ed or Ap is watching. Maybe I’ll pass this along….maybe…

CW on October 7, 2012 at 9:51 AM

The 7.8 number was the Atomic Bomb that destroyed the debate and the Romney campaign.

gumbyandpokey on October 7, 2012 at 9:40 AM

ROFL Oh wait…you’re serious. You really need to check out some of the forums that even lean Dem. No one, and I mean no one, is impressed or even buying that figure, except for the far left loons. Guess that includes you, sorry. Unfortunately for the Obama admin, those figures have been revised so many times over the years and coming out right after the debate makes them look questionable. As for polling, we’ll see. I don’t pay much attention to polls either way, they have been wrong as often as they have been right. Those aren’t odds I’d bet on.

Deanna on October 7, 2012 at 9:51 AM

Gumby you also keep proving yourself the troll. Do you take pride in that?

CW on October 7, 2012 at 9:51 AM

Guys, I went to two “Ask Mitt Anything” events during the 2008 cycle. People could (and did!) ask Mitt anything they wanted. The whole time (the event wasn’t short) Mitt stood with perfect posture, never seemed to tire, and handled every single question with aplomb… even questions from code pink-type screechers and a guy who called mormonism a cult. Ann looked quite perturbed during the unfriendly questions, but Mitt never got ruffled even once. The man does have a calm presence about him, he’s taller than he appears on tv, and he just seems very comfortable in his own skin. The “awkward” labels used to describe him are wrong. He’s just dignified and he came across as someone who was taking the event seriously. Trust me when I tell you that a “townhall” style debate will not be a problem for Mitt. I just hope he keeps up the pressure on Obama. He shouldn’t rest on his laurels, but should build on his very strong performance from last week. No doubt Obama will try to make his liberal fans happy by going after Mitt on who knows what, and I’m sure Mitt will be prepared for it.

bluegill on October 7, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Guys, I went to two “Ask Mitt Anything” events during the 2008 cycle. People could (and did!) ask Mitt anything they wanted. The whole time (the event wasn’t short) Mitt stood with perfect posture, never seemed to tire, and handled every single question with aplomb…
*******

bluegill on October 7, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Just what one should expect from someone who is used to BOTH leadership roles in government and in the private sector who is used to being pelted and essentially interrogated by not only his constituents but by very intelligent business people with multi-million dollar deals on the line.

CW on October 7, 2012 at 9:57 AM

oh boy, mtp on right now….thanks for the heads up renalin

cmsinaz on October 7, 2012 at 10:00 AM

bluegill on October 7, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Thanks for sharing that! This is what I’ve been thinking the past few days. Romney is such a genuinely nice and decent guy. I think the town hall format — even though CNN will stack the “Gallup undecided voters” heavily against him (read: obama plant after obama plant) — will serve his character quite well. The problem for a leftist like Zero in any kind of debate is that he has to stay focused on deception and inauthenticity — he simply cannot show who he really is. That has always been the problem for leftists — they must appear as something they are not for the entire time, because what they are is entirely distasteful to huge majorities of voters. Romney will have no such burden. He isn’t filled with Zero’s rage, hatred for his fellow citizens, hatred for the nation, its founders, its Constitution. The burden lies much harder on barack to keep all of that under wraps for 90 minutes — and almost every time he speaks extemporaneously, the mask slips.

Rational Thought on October 7, 2012 at 10:04 AM

gumbyandpokey on October 7, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Heh…you proved my point from the other thread.

BTW what you are doing is called spamming and against the TOS.
I wonder if Ed or Ap is watching. Maybe I’ll pass this along….maybe…

CW on October 7, 2012 at 9:51 AM

I agree. If I remember right, I believe Ed himself actually called out the Obama supporter gumbyandpokey in a comment section a few months back. Can’t remember what exactly it was about. I have no doubt that Ed Morrissey knows exactly what gumbyandpokey is, though I’m sure Ed has many other things to occupy himself with.

The Obama-supporting internet troll gumbyandpokey spams these comment threads with pro-Obama and anti-Mitt comments. Previously gumbyandpokey was seen trying to tell everyone that Scott Walker was sure to lose, and that Republicans should throw in the towel in trying to fight that recall campaign. Sadly for the liberal Democrat GumbyandPokey, Wisconsin voters had other plans.

The sad thing is that GumbyandPokey is now back to pretending to be a conservative. He seems to think that it makes his pro-Obama spam more effective; i.e., if a supposed “true conservative” thinks Obama is going to win, well then I guess it must be so, huh? GumbyandPokey is a joke. Apparently there are many liberals like him who go on to conservative websites in order to try to demoralize conservatives, while pretending to be a conservative. I think they’re just wasting their time, to be honest. Makes you wonder what kind of lives they must lead.

bluegill on October 7, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Sadly, the big loser in Wisconsin is Big Bird, with barely half of likely voters holding a favorable impression of the government subsidized Sesame Street resident.

Flora Duh on October 7, 2012 at 9:05 AM

Like so much else in American life, most voters DO NOT KNOW that they pay for Big Bird. They turn on their TV, shove “Madison” or “Tucker” in front of it, and there he is! Well now they know they’re footing the bill for Big Bird, so Zero is forced to defend that to millions of unemployed Americans, explain why THAT government expenditure should not be touched, cannot be trimmed. It’s hilarious! The millions PBS makes selling their licensed merchandise, and we’re STILL borrowing money from China to send them a government check every year. Sickening!

Rational Thought on October 7, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Also the fact that “Madison and Tucker” probably have talking Big Bird, Sesame Street coloring books, and an Elmo doll among a lot of other masterfully merchandised crap. They’ve surely seen Sesame Street on Ice and the government didn’t subsidize any of these purchases. I bought my kid all this stuff 28 years ago. As politically unaware as I was back then, I knew it was a business that didn’t need government help or my “pledge” during viewer support week, that seems to last all year.

tj4osu on October 7, 2012 at 10:09 AM

I like that NH has a GOP woman as senator, but Kelly Ayotte is a terrible speaker. She always sounds as if she about ready to break down and cry.

What in the hell is her problem?

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2012 at 10:09 AM

bluegill on October 7, 2012 at 10:05 AM

I find his increasing desperation kind of amusing. If he works for organizing for America, and I believe he does, it means they are in full melt down mode over there. I like that.

Rational Thought on October 7, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Watching MTP for one reason only: Newt to smirk at and dominate Gregory.
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Gibbsy looks like a guy who has chronically rotten teeth. I’m thinking “Dueling Banjos” and hidden mountain hollows have been a part of his background.

ExpressoBold on October 7, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Martin O’Malley is a schmuck.

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2012 at 10:11 AM

That was JUST Dumbyandhokey.

CW on October 7, 2012 at 9:51 AM

I know. I was just chumming to see if Axelfraud woke up Dumbpoke yet this morning.

Brat on October 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Revolt of the Spooks

Intelligence officials angered by Obama administration cover up of intelligence on Iranian, al Qaeda surge in Egypt and Libya

If nothing else, you’ve got to check out the picture that goes with the article.

Flora Duh on October 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Trust me when I tell you that a “townhall” style debate will not be a problem for Mitt. I just hope he keeps up the pressure on Obama.

bluegill on October 7, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Oh, I don’t doubt for one second that Mitt can handle himself in a townhall setting. Dude does them all the time on the campaign trail. It’s Obama he has to be prepared for. I expect him to be more on the attack and try to get Mitt off his game.

Doughboy on October 7, 2012 at 10:16 AM

What, no Baghdad Barbie? No DWS? Where is the fun in that?

pilamaye on October 7, 2012 at 8:07 AM

Yeah, where has she been?!

Brat on October 7, 2012 at 8:21 AM

…recovering from plastic surgery?…everybody talks about how butt ugly she is…after seeing her new pictures…some of that “butt fat” may have been used for fill-in instead of botox!

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Good Lord, Governor O’Malley is such a hack! When asked about the WARN Act, he said something like, “why would companies want to provide notice and create such a disruption?’ In other words, he is taking on the basis of the WARN Act, passed by a supermajority of a Democrat Congress in 1988. It took Chris Wallace to remind him that companies wouldn’t want to do so, so Congress made them provide notice.

O’Malley is abysmal. How does Maryland elect this clown?

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on October 7, 2012 at 10:23 AM

Gibbs can’t even afford a real “white board”? Newt and that other guy are enjoying themselves and those other people are all over the place trying to make excuses for Obama.

Night Owl on October 7, 2012 at 10:23 AM

OT: Rasmussen says Brown & Mandel are tied at 46%

22044 on October 7, 2012 at 10:24 AM

I’ve noticed that Obama supporters these days are feeling less enthusiastic about declaring their support for the failed, overrated Barack Obama. People are (and should be!) embarrassed about publicly admitting to supporting an empty suit propaganda hype-created myth.

When talking about how they feel about Obama, they feel compelled to first try to make excuses for him, as if they know that gushing over the man (as many did in 2008) would make them look laughable and clueless. For example, you hear: “yeah, I know things didn’t turn out exactly how he promised, but it’s not his fault! how can he do it all in only 2 3 4 years?”

I believe a consensus is building even among young non-partisan voters that Romney is the choice of smart, informed, independent thinkers, while many people who vote for Obama are just doing what they think is trendy… even though the days of young people regarding Obama as some great superhuman saviour are long, long gone.

Smart voters are for Romney in 2012. Clueless sheep still worship the myth of Obama.

bluegill on October 7, 2012 at 10:28 AM

OT: Rasmussen says Brown & Mandel are tied at 46%

22044 on October 7, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Sweet!

CW on October 7, 2012 at 10:28 AM

An overview for the week;

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/10/the_master_debater_part_ii.html

narciso on October 7, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Rasmussen shows same result as yesterday, 49-47, so that means that Saturday’s polling was about the same as Wednesday’s, which is also what PPP tweeted was happening.

The 7.8 number was the Atomic Bomb that destroyed the debate and the Romney campaign.

gumbyandpokey on October 7, 2012 at 9:40 AM

…how many threads are you assigned to today gummeandpokeme? …this copy and paste post is on the Obamateurism Poll of the week thread…you do that so often it’s just become mindless masturbation to us…can you go upstairs once and ask mommy to help you to get something else but polls… coming out of your pie-hole pole?

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Tommy Lasorda, Dodgers manager

Huh? I thought he had died a few years ago. Glad to see I was mistaken.

Ohmygosh Tony, please contact the Boston Red Sox immediately. They have lots of money, solid fans, and a losing record so bad that you could run the team from the nursing home and no one would
mind in the least.

Don L on October 7, 2012 at 10:33 AM

gumbyandpokey on October 7, 2012 at 9:40 AM

…how many threads are you assigned to today gummeandpokeme? …this copy and paste post is on the Obamateurism Poll of the week thread…you do that so often it’s just become mindless masturbation to us…can you go upstairs once and ask mommy to help you to get something else but polls… coming out of your pie-hole pole?

KOOLAID2 on October 7, 2012 at 10:32 AM

Gumby is spamming which is against the site’s TOS.

CW on October 7, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Ohmygosh Tony, please contact the Boston Red Sox immediately. They have lots of money, solid fans, and a losing record so bad that you could run the team from the nursing home and no one would
mind in the least.

Don L on October 7, 2012 at 10:33 AM

I’m a Red Sox fan, that was hilarious! :)

22044 on October 7, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Gumby is spamming which is against the site’s TOS.

CW on October 7, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Ban hammer being prepared? I wouldn’t mind.

22044 on October 7, 2012 at 10:36 AM

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