Romney gets the most of his … 47%

posted at 8:41 am on October 4, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Dominating. DecisiveIn command.  Those are just a few of the descriptions of Mitt Romney’s performance that I read from my Twitter stream after the debate — which I missed while in class last night.  Romney scored a big win by all measures and practically by acclamation; even Michael Moore had to angrily concede defeat last night:

With all that domination, one might expect Romney to have out-talked Barack Obama in the debate.  We saw plenty of complaints about the moderator, PBS anchor Jim Lehrer, from the Left.  However, an analysis by my friend Eric Ostermeier at Smart Politics shows that Obama actually got more talking time during the debate.  Romney only had, er, forty-seven percent:

In a debate in which both candidates were supposed to receive equal speaking time, President Barack Obama was given 12 percent more airtime Wednesday evening at the first presidential debate at the University of Denver in Colorado.

Obama spoke for 42 minutes and 40 seconds or 52.7 percent of the candidate-allotted speaking time.

And while Romney at times appeared to interrupt moderator Jim Lehrer, perhaps he did so for good reason.

A Smart Politics analysis finds that Mitt Romney spoke for 38 minutes and 14 seconds, or 47.3 percent of the candidate-allotted speaking time – a full four minutes and 26 seconds less than Barack Obama.

In other words, we’ll be hearing plenty from the Left about Lehrer’s supposed inability to stand up to Romney, but that wasn’t the problem at all for Obama.  Obama got more time; he just did less with it than Romney did.  In part, that’s because it’s more difficult to play defense, which is the fallback position that David Corn takes at Mother Jones:

The first presidential debate, on Wednesday night in Denver, demonstrated that it is difficult to defend progress regarding a sluggish economy and far easier to decry the status quo and promise to do better than the guy in charge. Romney repeatedly described President Obama’s actions as failures because the economy remains troubled and claimed he would be the white knight that rides to the rescue. He displayed conviction and passion as he did so, tossing out purported facts and repeatedly referring to Americans he or Ann have met who have shared tales of hardship. …

Romney looked delighted to be at the debate, assertively accusing Obama of underperformance. Obama came across as more tentative. He certainly had the harder argument to make: saying the economy is moving in the right direction when that movement is not fast enough for millions. But even Obama’s assaults on Romney’s archly conservative policies lacked focus and vigor.

The usual talking points were hurled back and forth. Yet Romney appeared better able to turn his into more specific attacks on Obama, particularly because the president was in a awkward position: How do you defend yourself from the charge that you should have done more? Obama pointed to accomplishments and positive developments in the economy, tax cuts for the middle class, his successful rescue of the auto industry. But that didn’t fully answer Romney’s bottom-line accusation.

On one level, Corn’s right.  It is tougher to play defense in debates, which I pointed out yesterday in my pre-debate analysis.  Incumbent Presidents have that disadvantage, and even when Ronald Reagan could point to massive new job creation by October 1984, he still lost his first debate against Walter Mondale.

However, Corn misses the point.  He gripes that Romney could shrug off attacks from Obama that used highly suspect analyses from a left-leaning think tank and a former Obama aide about Romney’s tax plan, but Romney was prepared to answer those attacks.  Obama clearly wasn’t prepared to answer Romney’s attacks on his record — and he’s had three and a half years to prepare for that.  What did Obama and his team think Romney had planned for this debate?  An extensive dialogue on the 47%?  Of course not; Romney was going to attack Obama’s record.

And that’s the heart of the problem.  It’s not the moderator, and it’s not the incumbency per se.  It’s the fact that Obama has a poor record in his term, and that Obama can’t explain how more of the same will work out better in a second four years.  Even with a four-and-a-half-minute head start, Obama can’t defend his record, and his straw-man arguments won’t work when Romney is on stage to answer them.

I’ll have a few of the better moments later this morning.


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Here’s what’s wrong with the Romney campaign. This is a decent ad and you know how much money is being spent on putting it on the air? What the ad buy is? Only 350,000 dollars…that is nothing and proves there are money problems.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8RB1dnqS3Q&feature=player_embedded

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 10:39 AM

Can I borrow some crack from you?

Lord of the Wings on October 4, 2012 at 11:03 AM

Remember that even John Kerry saw a significant jump in his poll numbers after winning his first debate. It will be an epic fail if Romney doesn’t see a similar bump.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 11:00 AM

You are the epic fail!!!

This :)

Walker is a goner…

“A new Rasmussen poll finds that Republican Wisconsin Scott Walker is in trouble of being recalled June 5, with a majority, 52 percent, saying they will vote him

Worse for Walker: 53 percent disapprove of his job as governor with a whopping 46 percent saying they “strongly disapprove” of Walker. Majorities of both men and women now support his recall.”

gumbyandpokey on April 2, 2012 at 7:10 PM

jimver on October 4, 2012 at 11:03 AM

To a certain extent, I’m okay with Obama getting more time. If the takeaway is that Romney is in command of the material, says more in less time and holds interest, while Obama hurrrrs his way through his rambling responses while eating up the clock…that’s just dandy.

TexasDan on October 4, 2012 at 11:04 AM

It will be an epic fail if Romney doesn’t see a similar bump.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 11:00 AM

An epic fail for Romney who trailed by just 3% in the national vote before the debates?

sentinelrules on October 4, 2012 at 11:05 AM

To a certain extent, I’m okay with Obama getting more time. If the takeaway is that Romney is in command of the material, says more in less time and holds interest, while Obama hurrrrs his way through his rambling responses while eating up the clock…that’s just dandy.

TexasDan on October 4, 2012 at 11:04 AM

True…

jimver on October 4, 2012 at 11:05 AM

The new RNC ad ‘Smirk’ is really good … sure have a lot of footage to use from last night !!
BUWAHHAH .

http://washingtonexaminer.com/the-smirk-rnc-plays-up-obamas-body-language/article/2509830#.UG2Q1U3A-gR

pambi on October 4, 2012 at 11:07 AM

I’ll be here all night long to accept my accolades for being right all along or to eat crow.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Uh huh, just like you were here when Walker won a second time after you spent months declaring the man a loser.

Bishop on October 4, 2012 at 11:07 AM

It was so nice last night when no one was engaging or responding to the pathetic trolls who come here to disrupt. May we please continue that practice? It made for much more productive and enjoyable discourse.

MustLoveBlogs on October 4, 2012 at 11:11 AM

OT let the Halloween decoration controversies begin!
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/10/03/halloween-display-catching-family-in-web-of-controversy/

Brat on October 4, 2012 at 11:11 AM

“You cherry pick the most partisan polls”

Like Rasmussen?

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 11:12 AM

There are four reasons why the polls are so skewed. A combination of all four explains the differing polls out there, and they all mask the fact that it will be a landslide for Romney. Add to that, the higher enthusiasm of the Conservatives this year will cause the voting numbers, especially in swing states, to skyrocket when they see the polls skewed in Obama’s favor.

1) The most important one, of course, is the media bias on Democrat demographics. The media can’t really believe that Dems are going to come out in numbers 3-6 percentage points higher than in ’08.

http://netrightdaily.com/2012/

2) Data shows that of all the people contacted for polling data, only 9% are actually responding. This can’t contribute to accurate polls, by any measure.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012

3) The ‘Bradley Effect’. People say to pollsters that they are voting for the minority candidate, when in reality they will vote for the other guy. They don’t want to be seen as racist.

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-i

4) The ‘Shy Tory Factor’. This is a condition where the polled person says they agree with the socialist concept, but in reality they want the conservative direction and will vote accordingly. Once again, they don’t want to be seen as different from what the media says is socially proper, but internally they believe conservatively.

http://www.americanthinker.com

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 4, 2012 at 11:13 AM

What pro-Obama comments have I made?

Stating that he’s winning, which is a fact?

daveyandgoliath on October 4, 2012 at 10:27 AM

The only place that O’bamna is “winning” the 2012 election is in “polls”; 9.9 out of every 10 of those “polls” are done either by newspapers that endorsed O’bamna in 2008 and will do so again this year, or by “news organizations” that have all been carrying O’bamna’s water (and other precious bodily fluids) since 2007.

I smell the whiff of Teen Spirit in here this morning.

Or something.

G-

Del Dolemonte on October 4, 2012 at 11:14 AM

“For one thing, there is no way that you can declare that “Oiho” and Virginia will go to the rat-eared coward based on what Florida does”

100% wrong. Florida was considered to be Romney’s strongest swing state and will be 2-3% stronger for him than either Ohio or Virginia. If Florida is too close to call or Mitt is behind, he’s in a death spiral in OH and VA.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 11:15 AM

“only older demographics watch TV,”

Yeah, that key demo of 18-49 years old never watches TV, lol.

You guys live in fantasyland if you think ads don’t matter.

daveyandgoliath on October 4, 2012 at 10:31 AM

From 2010

NEW YORK — For years, executives at ABC, Fox and NBC essentially stopped caring about television viewers once they had reached 50 years old.

You don’t hear that much anymore.

The median age for viewers at those networks and CBS is now 51. The broadcasters’ audience has aged at twice the rate of the general population during the past two decades, according to a new report. It’s a quiet trend with a real impact on the way they do business.

F-

Del Dolemonte on October 4, 2012 at 11:17 AM

“3) The ‘Bradley Effect’. People say to pollsters that they are voting for the minority candidate, when in reality they will vote for the other guy. They don’t want to be seen as racist.”

Yep, the Bradley Effect just doomed Obama in 08.

This is the kind of crap that makes me post here. It’s just factually wrong.

If anything, Obama being black has helped him immensely in his popularity.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 11:19 AM

The new RNC ad ‘Smirk’ is really good … sure have a lot of footage to use from last night !!
BUWAHHAH .

http://washingtonexaminer.com/the-smirk-rnc-plays-up-obamas-body-language/article/2509830#.UG2Q1U3A-gR

pambi on October 4, 2012 at 11:07 AM

I like how Smirky looks toward Lehrer about halfway through, hoping he will interrupt Mitt. But alas surprisingly he did not that time.

Brat on October 4, 2012 at 11:19 AM

So here’s a curious portent maybe?

I went to donate to Romney this morning and was down to the last check in my checkbook.

Check# 1980.

cane_loader on October 4, 2012 at 11:21 AM

“Today’s Rasmussen swing state update…

Obama 51
Romney 45

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Poll taken before the debate.

You forgot that caveat for some reason.

sentinelrules on October 4, 2012 at 10:50 AM”

Didn’t forget anything. I posted it anyway because I’m desperate, and I also think you all are stupider than I am and wouldn’t catch my Lie as quickly as you all did. Looks like I am failing.

daveyandgoliath on October 4, 2012 at 10:52 AM

Fixed.

Del Dolemonte on October 4, 2012 at 11:22 AM

..notice the extra whiff of desperation from him this morning, Jim?

The War Planner on October 4, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Does that smell like bacon?

ShadowsPawn on October 4, 2012 at 11:22 AM

daveyandgoliath on October 4, 2012 at 10:55 AM

Wow, Walker and Barrett had a debate last night too? I missed that.

Del Dolemonte on October 4, 2012 at 11:23 AM

“From 2010

NEW YORK — For years, executives at ABC, Fox and NBC essentially stopped caring about television viewers once they had reached 50 years old.

You don’t hear that much anymore.

The median age for viewers at those networks and CBS is now 51. The broadcasters’ audience has aged at twice the rate of the general population during the past two decades, according to a new report. It’s a quiet trend with a real impact on the way they do business.

F-

Del Dolemonte on October 4, 2012 at 11:17 AM”

So are you saying that ads on TV don’t matter or have an impact? If that’s the case, you are certifiably insane. But I’ll enjoy rubbing your nose in the losing stench on election night even more.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 11:23 AM

So are you saying that ads on TV don’t matter or have an impact? If that’s the case, you are certifiably insane. But I’ll enjoy rubbing your nose in the losing stench on election night even more.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 11:23 AM

It seems to me that someone that supposedly supports Romney and opposes Obama would do no such thing. This statement proves exactly what everyone thinks about you, you are a troll, nothing more. A sad little troll.

ShadowsPawn on October 4, 2012 at 11:26 AM

100% wrong. Florida was considered to be Romney’s strongest swing state and will be 2-3% stronger for him than either Ohio or Virginia. If Florida is too close to call or Mitt is behind, he’s in a death spiral in OH and VA.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Except that Obama is pulling out of Florida.

The pro-Obama “super PAC” that has spent millions of dollars attacking Mitt Romney in ads is pulling commercials from Florida and Wisconsin, part of what the group says is a realignment of its advertising campaign. The cancellations by Priorities USA Action, coupled with new purchases of television time in other key swing states, indicate where Democratic strategists think the presidential race may and may not be competitive with a month left to Election Day.

http://battlegroundwatch.com/2012/10/04/priorities-usa-action-pro-obama-pac-pulls-ads-from-florida-and-wisconsin/

sentinelrules on October 4, 2012 at 11:26 AM

If anything, Obama being black has helped him immensely in his popularity.

daveyandgoliath on October 4, 2012 at 11:19 AM

He’s only half black, isn’t he?

And since you seem to live and die by these “polls”, please cite the relevant poll numbers showing us how O’bamna’s “race” has helped him immensely in his popularity. Do the “pollsters” even ask that question?

Del Dolemonte on October 4, 2012 at 11:27 AM

“Today’s Rasmussen swing state update…

Obama 51
Romney 45

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Poll taken before the debate.

You forgot that caveat for some reason.

sentinelrules on October 4, 2012 at 10:50 AM”

Didn’t forget anything. I posted it anyway because I’m desperate, and I also think you all are stupider than I am and wouldn’t catch my Lie as quickly as you all did. Looks like I am failing.

daveyandgoliath on October 4, 2012 at 10:52 AM

Fixed.

Del Dolemonte on October 4, 2012 at 11:22 AM”

Wow, classy move, Dell. Changing posts is really the sign of a confident partisan.

I cannot wait for election night. Heck, I can’t wait for the polls in the next few days to show no change in the race and Romney still getting his a** kicked in the battleground states.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Del Dolemonte on October 4, 2012 at 11:17 AM”

So are you saying that ads on TV don’t matter or have an impact? If that’s the case, you are certifiably insane. But I’ll enjoy rubbing your nose in the losing stench on election night even more.

daveyandgoliath on October 4, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Brave little clay ball. Can’t refute being smacked down by facts, so has to go Alinsky on me.

Now, please cite those “polls” you were talking about whereby people say O’bamna is more popular just because of the color of his skin.

Del Dolemonte on October 4, 2012 at 11:29 AM

Last night’s big winner – Mumia Abu Jamal. Looks like he may get pardoned four years earlier than expected.

L. E. Light on October 4, 2012 at 11:30 AM

I cannot wait for election night. Heck, I can’t wait for the polls in the next few days to show no change in the race and Romney still getting his a** kicked in the battleground states.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Again, you show yourself for the troll that you are. You are no Romney supporter, you are a liar, and a bad one at that.

ShadowsPawn on October 4, 2012 at 11:30 AM

“He’s only half black, isn’t he?

And since you seem to live and die by these “polls”, please cite the relevant poll numbers showing us how O’bamna’s “race” has helped him immensely in his popularity. Do the “pollsters” even ask that question?

Del Dolemonte on October 4, 2012 at 11:27 AM”

I don’t think the question was ever polled.

But there’s no doubt that there was no Bradley Effect in 08, and I think his being black helped him garner the “coolness factor” that lead young voters to support him in droves.

IMO, if Obama was white, he wouldn’t win re-election, and might not have won the first time.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Del Dolemonte on October 4, 2012 at 11:22 AM”

Wow, classy move, Dell. Changing posts is really the sign of a confident partisan.

daveyandgoliath on October 4, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Hey, I’ve been eating Democrat punks like you for breakfast since the late 1990s heyday of usenet political newsgroups, and was a regular at Ed’s Captain’s Quarters before he moved here. In fact, I used to kick sesquipedalian into low earth orbit at CQ on a regular basis.

PS, I’m not named after a brand of computer. Now show us those polls where all the people say they love them some O’bamna just because he is half black.

Del Dolemonte on October 4, 2012 at 11:32 AM

The War Planner on October 4, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Does that smell like bacon?

ShadowsPawn on October 4, 2012 at 11:22 AM

..I believe Del or tedc or one of the HG reg’lars mentions that it smells like prison sex.

The War Planner on October 4, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Last night’s big winner – Mumia Abu Jamal. Looks like he may get pardoned four years earlier than expected.

L. E. Light on October 4, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Yesterday I was musing who he might pardon. That’s as good a guess as any.

ConservativeLA on October 4, 2012 at 11:34 AM

..I believe Del or tedc or one of the HG reg’lars mentions that it smells like prison sex.

The War Planner on October 4, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Gross. Apt, but gross!

ShadowsPawn on October 4, 2012 at 11:34 AM

And, Del, if you don’t think TV ads have an impact because viewership on major networks is skewing older, don’t forget the huge increase in the people watching cable TV.

Yeah, cable tv, where Obama is outspending Romney 93-7.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Del Dolemonte on October 4, 2012 at 11:27 AM”

I don’t think the question was ever polled. But I threw it against the Hot Gas Wall to see if it would stick.

daveyandgoliath on October 4, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Actor Samuel L. Jackson has admitted that he became a supporter of Barack Obama in 2008 because of his race.

In an interview for Ebony magazine’s March issue, the Oscar-nominated screen legend says his decision to vote for Mr Obama was nothing to do with his political beliefs.

‘I voted for Barack because he was black. ‘Cuz that’s why other folks vote for other people — because they look like them,’ Mr Jackson told the magazine, according to the New York Post

Del Dolemonte on October 4, 2012 at 11:34 AM

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Obama has checked out. Not even the media and his team combined can pull him to victory when the guy they are cheering for has given up.

Why were you so wrong about Walker?

Mitsouko on October 4, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Except that Obama is pulling out of Florida.

The pro-Obama “super PAC” that has spent millions of dollars attacking Mitt Romney in ads is pulling commercials from Florida and Wisconsin, part of what the group says is a realignment of its advertising campaign. The cancellations by Priorities USA Action, coupled with new purchases of television time in other key swing states, indicate where Democratic strategists think the presidential race may and may not be competitive with a month left to Election Day.

http://battlegroundwatch.com/2012/10/04/priorities-usa-action-pro-obama-pac-pulls-ads-from-florida-and-wisconsin/

sentinelrules on October 4, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Pulling out of Wisconson????

Oh my….

1984 in real life on October 4, 2012 at 11:36 AM

“Hey, I’ve been eating Democrat punks like you for breakfast since the late 1990s heyday of usenet political newsgroups, and was a regular at Ed’s Captain’s Quarters before he moved here. In fact, I used to kick sesquipedalian into low earth orbit at CQ on a regular basis.

PS, I’m not named after a brand of computer. Now show us those polls where all the people say they love them some O’bamna just because he is half black.

Del Dolemonte on October 4, 2012 at 11:32 AM”

Sorry, Dell, but you aren’t kicking anyone anywhere when your guy is getting throttled and all you can do is whine about poll methodology. But keep whining and keep spinning and I’m going to enjoy every single day left of this campaign.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM

And, Del, if you don’t think TV ads have an impact because viewership on major networks is skewing older, don’t forget the huge increase in the people watching cable TV.

Yeah, cable tv, where Obama is outspending Romney 93-7.

daveyandgoliath on October 4, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Admission of defeat by changing of subject to cable TV duly noted.

And if what you claim is fact (and you provide no proof that it is) considering that the race is a statistical tie, doesn’t that mean O’bamna’s massive cable ad buys are epically failing?

Next?

Del Dolemonte on October 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Why were you so wrong about Walker, and why did you disappear after he won the recall election?

Bishop on October 4, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Sorry, Dell, but you aren’t kicking anyone anywhere when your guy is getting throttled and all you can do is whine about poll methodology.

daveyandgoliath on October 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Even the corrupt CNN “poll” out yesterday has the race a statistical tie, within the margin of error.

If that’s your definition of Romney being “throttled”, you need to go back to Freshman English.

Del Dolemonte on October 4, 2012 at 11:41 AM

From what I read, the thrill is gone from Tingles’ leg. Election night is going to be blast if Mitt stays on his game.

“President Romney”

I can get used to saying that.

Liam on October 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM

But keep whining and keep spinning and I’m going to enjoy every single day left of this campaign.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM

.
and liberals are screeching today that Ophony was a victim of the Denver altitude.

Now the poser will have to come down to earth.

FlaMurph on October 4, 2012 at 11:48 AM

The first presidential debate, on Wednesday night in Denver, demonstrated that it is difficult to defend progress regarding a sluggish economy and far easier to decry the status quo and promise to do better than the guy in charge.

Sounds a bit like analysis of the 2008 campaign.

hawksruleva on October 4, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Business Insider has this, an Wall Street Romney rally…that’s your morning after, Mitt, enjoy :)…

jimver on October 4, 2012 at 11:50 AM

But keep whining and keep spinning and I’m going to enjoy every single day left of this campaign.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Quite predictable from a pro troll, since you don’t have what generally passes as a life…not even remotely…

jimver on October 4, 2012 at 11:52 AM

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 11:19 AM

The Reverse Bradley effect helped Obama in 2008. A lot of people voted for him because of “history” and if Obama was white he’d be down double digits right now.

But with the extreme “race card” playing and fear of being perceived racist a lot of people who WON’T be voting for Obama will just say “yea I’m voting for him” so they don’t get perceived as racist.

Same thing with gay marriage polling. In CA Prop 8 was destined for a big defeat if you watched the polling, but on election night Prop 8 won by 4.7%

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 4, 2012 at 11:52 AM

BTW… where are the TV ratings for last night’s debate?

Start hunting, Ed.

CPT. Charles on October 4, 2012 at 10:57 AM

Don’t know about the ratings, but I read last night (late) that 60,000,000 viewed the debate. Can’t recall which site, since after the debate I was surfing many sites.

I think Twitter may have set a record; if not at least 2nd.

bluefox on October 4, 2012 at 11:55 AM

“President Romney”

I can get used to saying that.

Liam on October 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM

.
Integrity and decency will return to 1600 Penn.

President Romney will put America first, again.
With NO Apology.

FlaMurph on October 4, 2012 at 11:57 AM

And, Del, if you don’t think TV ads have an impact because viewership on major networks is skewing older, don’t forget the huge increase in the people watching cable TV.

Yeah, cable tv, where Obama is outspending Romney 93-7.

daveyandgoliath on October 4, 2012 at 11:34 AM

Yeah, coz nobody knows which is the cable TV with the most audience on the market right now, and how its audience leans, so wasting money on Mitt ads on Fox would be epic stupidity, that audience is locked for Romney anyways….as for msndc, any imbecile who watches that is an extreme left loon, so again why wasting money to make no difference to a crazed leftist audience….so, pls, go away…. you have long exhausted the amount of stupidity one person is entitled to….

jimver on October 4, 2012 at 11:59 AM

It was so nice last night when no one was engaging or responding to the pathetic trolls who come here to disrupt. May we please continue that practice? It made for much more productive and enjoyable discourse.

MustLoveBlogs on October 4, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Yes it was nice!! I think that happened because we all agreed in the beginning.

bluefox on October 4, 2012 at 11:59 AM

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Where the Fu*k does HotAir find these idiots??

ToddPA on October 4, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Sorry, Dell, but you aren’t kicking anyone anywhere when your guy is getting throttled and all you can do is whine about poll methodology.

daveyandgoliath on October 4, 2012 at 11:38 AM

He doesn’t need to, you do a stellar job at kicking your own ass with posts like these below looll :)…you have the credibility of a damp rag….

Walker is a goner…

“A new Rasmussen poll finds that Republican Wisconsin Scott Walker is in trouble of being recalled June 5, with a majority, 52 percent, saying they will vote him out less than two years after he took office and immediately went to work to cut the power of public service unions.

Worse for Walker: 53 percent disapprove of his job as governor with a whopping 46 percent saying they “strongly disapprove” of Walker. Majorities of both men and women now support his recall.”

gumbyandpokey on April 2, 2012 at 7:10 PM

jimver on October 4, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Stealing this from Rightscoop
jaym68 Today 02:11 AM

Best 2 tweets of the night…
Dennis Miller:
Romney keeps this up Øbama’s gonna vote for him
and
Øbama better hope a Kicked @ss is covered under Øbamacare

What a great night!
R&R 2012

bluefox on October 4, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Obama is lazy. He clearly did not do much prep.

Correct. Like all pampered liberals, Obama wants something for nothing; hard work is beneath him.

RNC should consider pulling up the disastrous Obama video the night of the 2012 Iowa caucuses when Obama was revealed to be tired, unengaged, adrift. Combining that material with last night’s performance might prove fruitful.

matthew8787 on October 4, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Where the Fu*k does HotAir find these idiots??

ToddPA on October 4, 2012 at 12:02 PM

They keep finding us!

Liam on October 4, 2012 at 12:12 PM

These libtards better get used to ‘President Romney’. They will be hearing it for the next 8 years (and for 8 years after that, President Ryan)

Wolftech on October 4, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Where the Fu*k does HotAir find these idiots??

ToddPA on October 4, 2012 at 12:02 PM

I’ve been trying to figure that out for a while….particularly I think it is unfair for a blog with smart readers like HA not to get a single decent troll…instead, we get gutmeandpokemewithapole…or poll :)…

jimver on October 4, 2012 at 12:22 PM

“Yeah, coz nobody knows which is the cable TV with the most audience on the market right now, and how its audience leans, so wasting money on Mitt ads on Fox would be epic stupidity, that audience is locked for Romney anyways…”

Obama ads run nonstop on ESPN. That might be a good place to start.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Hhahaha, y’all have to read this. . Gore blames O’s disaster yesterday on….tadaa…..ALTITUDE!!! :)… Am dead serious, he blames it on altitude!!! :)

jimver on October 4, 2012 at 12:28 PM

“Yeah, coz nobody knows which is the cable TV with the most audience on the market right now, and how its audience leans, so wasting money on Mitt ads on Fox would be epic stupidity, that audience is locked for Romney anyways…”

Obama ads run nonstop on ESPN. That might be a good place to start.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Yes, dear, and on syfy too.. now off you go….oh, and get off that TV, that’s what dumbed you down, get a book, or a kindle, browse the net, i form yourself, TV is soooo last century….

jimver on October 4, 2012 at 12:31 PM

“Yeah, coz nobody knows which is the cable TV with the most audience on the market right now, and how its audience leans, so wasting money on Mitt ads on Fox would be epic stupidity, that audience is locked for Romney anyways…”

Obama ads run nonstop on ESPN. That might be a good place to start.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Most people have DVRs these days, stupid, you know what does to ads, right….wipes them out…now go…

jimver on October 4, 2012 at 12:34 PM

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 4, 2012 at 11:13 AM

5) People in some areas are plain afraid that it could be a SEIU goon calling from the corner next to your house, ready to pounce on your car and your lawn furniture.

Archivarix on October 4, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Anybody else see the CNN commies going postal over the Dem/Repub split in their scientific post-debate poll? It was HILARIOUS!!!!! ROFLMAO…

The split was Dem 37/Rep 33 of “registered voters who watched the debate”, and Carville was FURIOUS saying “THAT’S TOO MANY DAMN REPUBLICANS!!!!!” LOL

The poll of course showed Romney won the debate 67% to 25% which was the widest margin of victory EVAH in a CNN post-debate poll…LOL

Also, lots of bad news for the Presie as Romney won the “who do you trust more to fix the economy” by 12 points, the “who can fix the deficit” by 16 points and the “likeability” score was tied at 46%.
Mitt also won by LARGE MARGINS, the “looked more presidential” and “strong leader” questions…

Not what the CNN Commies wanted to see, especially on “live tv” where they didn’t’ have “sufficient time” to rework the numbers and devise a false narrative contrary to the actual factual numbers…
Bummer days…
(note: I will say this in John King’s defense, he countered Carville’s ridiculous comments by saying “the CBS post-debate poll had very similar results”…
IT WAS CLASSIC!!!!
LOL

Strike Hornet on October 4, 2012 at 12:49 PM

I stand corrected on a complaint I made about Lehrer not interrupting Obama. He did once, and Obama responded indignantly claiming that he had 5 more seconds, then continued to babble on for at least 2 more minutes. Another stunning example of Obama math or Obama timekeeping–imagine that in the NFL.

stukinIL4now on October 4, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Obama ads run nonstop on ESPN. That might be a good place to start.

daveyandgoliath on October 4, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Wouldn’t that alone be an admission that the guy who you quaintly claim is “throttling” Romney is losing the men’s demographic?

And if he’s so far ahead of Romney, why is he running so many ads?

By the way, you still haven’t told us why you regularly cite “polls” that are done by people who want O’bamna to win, or those done by newspapers that are endorsing him.

Would you trust a “poll” done by a newspaper that endorsed Romney that showed him ahead? A simple yes or no will suffice.

Del Dolemonte on October 4, 2012 at 1:04 PM

Last night it sure sounded like Chris Matthews regretted fellating Obama for the last four years. Tingles was not impressed. Funny how Romney destroyed Obama despite Obama speaking for 4.5 more minutes.

LarryinLA on October 4, 2012 at 1:09 PM

More on the CNN poll:
Romney wins the “better leader” question by a WHOPPING 19 POINTS!” 57% to 38%

Also, Independents say Romney won debate 75% to 17%

Barkey CLEARLY needs to stay out of the altitude…LOL

Strike Hornet on October 4, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Last night it sure sounded like Chris Matthews regretted fellating Obama for the last four years. Tingles was not impressed. Funny how Romney destroyed Obama despite Obama speaking for 4.5 more minutes.

LarryinLA on October 4, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Oh, don’t ‘misunderestimate’ Tingle, he’ll recover from last night and he will felate bama some more…it’s his job, or well, at least how he understands his job :)…..

jimver on October 4, 2012 at 1:28 PM

“3) The ‘Bradley Effect’. People say to pollsters that they are voting for the minority candidate, when in reality they will vote for the other guy. They don’t want to be seen as racist.”

Yep, the Bradley Effect just doomed Obama in 08.

This is the kind of crap that makes me post here. It’s just factually wrong.

If anything, Obama being black has helped him immensely in his popularity.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 11:19 AM

Actually, Obama has always polled 5 points better than he gets in the actual election.

So yes, there was a Bradley effect, but that doesn’t always spell doom, just not as good a winning performance as expected.

Of course when your numbers are 47 instead of 57, that’s a different story.

jaydee_007 on October 4, 2012 at 1:55 PM

OMG Obama approval 54% on gallup….what the hell! this doesnt reflect the debate but this covers lybia.

Robb on October 4, 2012 at 2:53 PM

I hope Obama loses 47% to 53% haha

Dollayo on October 4, 2012 at 4:29 PM

So here’s a curious portent maybe?

I went to donate to Romney this morning and was down to the last check in my checkbook.

Check# 1980.

cane_loader on October 4, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Oo-ooh! [Twilight Zone theme]

I hope it’s a good omen! :-)

Mary in LA on October 4, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Hey, this article says that high cholesterol intake helps repair brain damage due to Alzheimer’s disease.

Michael Moore is only 58, which is a bit on the young side for Alzheimer’s, but it’s evident that his brain is damaged in some way.

Therefore, I announce my intention to donate all my excess cholesterol to poor unfortunate Mr. Moore, and I’d like to ask you, my fellow HAers, to find some compassion for him in your hearts and do the same thing.

I am attempting to make arrangements for remote cholesterol donation via FatPal. I’ll keep you all posted.

Mary in LA on October 4, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Romney gets the most of his … 47%

Pundits expected the 47 percent question to be central last night, but the conversation never got there due to Obama’s stupidity/and or intent. Obama spent his time repeating bogus definitions of Romney’s ideas, giving Romney an in to defend himself over and over, and time ran out

I dont know if the 47 percent is still 47 percent after last night, but still wonder if Romney has a handle on everything he said in that old video. When a video is edited, beware what was left out

Only Romney will know if there is a Saturday Night surprise in the cuts. Usually they save the dish for the last minute before the polls open, one week or less, so the rebuttal never has time to circulate. If they don’t use it when expected, they might be saving it for an emergency

Obama certainly never tried to weasel ’47 percent’ into the conversation, and he could have used it to get out of the many jams he created for himself

entagor on October 4, 2012 at 9:30 PM

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