Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on October 4, 2012 by Allahpundit

Buoyed by a powerful debate showing, Mitt Romney said Thursday he offers “prosperity that comes through freedom” to a country struggling to shed a weak economy. President Barack Obama accused the former Massachusetts governor of running from his own record in pursuit of political power…

Not even Democrats disputed that Romney was likely to benefit politically from the debate Wednesday night in which he aggressively challenged Obama’s stewardship of the economy and said his own plans would help pull the country out of a slow-growth rut…

“Victory is in sight,” Romney exulted in an emailed request for donations to supporters. It was a show of confidence by a man hoping for a quick reversal in pre-debate public opinion polls that showed him trailing in battleground states as well as nationally.

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During the opening prep sessions, the group quickly came to a consensus: At the podium, Romney would be forceful, nearly as assertive as he was in Healey’s living room. His advisers have always admired Romney’s ability to peel apart arguments in private, and they encouraged him to do the same at the debate, with a little polish. The goal was to overwhelm the president with liveliness and information, to force him to confront the messy details of his economic and fiscal record. The strategy, sources say, clicked with Romney for two reasons: He did not want to spend hours tinkering with his mannerisms, and he wanted to focus on internalizing data. He’d take advice on his voice, his posture, and the rest, but he wanted his prep time to be a policy workshop…

The practice made a difference. One longtime Romney friend tells me that Romney markedly improved throughout September as he devoted himself to his briefing books and the mock debates. The friend says Romney didn’t think of the debate as a political dialogue but as a grueling, 90-minute competition that demanded discipline. He prepared in the same way he used to review pending business deals at Bain Capital: He challenged his closest advisers about the most minor points, he spent a lot of time reading, and he constantly bantered with his aides about the other side’s weaknesses and strengths.

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“This is a campaign that believes he can win,” said Republican strategist Ron Bonjean. “Once Romney was on stage with the president, and he was able to score points against him, there was a Wizard of Oz effect that pulled back the curtain. There’s a renewed effort and spirit that wasn’t there a couple days ago.”…

“Romney really breathed new life into his campaign, that’s for sure — it’s too bad we didn’t see this Romney sooner because he could have been leading in the polls,” said Republican strategist Ford O’Connell. “This was the Massachusetts moderate that Democrats feared, and he showed that he was a principled but practical conservative willing to reach across party lines.”

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Romney didn’t just demonstrate authoritative command of a myriad of domestic issues. He was nervy about it, taking the president on frontally, not just relentlessly attacking, but answering every charge leveled against him — with a three-point rebuttal.

And he pulled off a tactical coup by coming right out of the box to undo millions of dollars’ worth of negative ads that painted him, personally, as Gordon Gekko — rapacious vulture capitalist who doesn’t just lay off steelworkers but kills their wives — and, politically, as intent on raising taxes on the middle class while lowering them for the rich.

The Romney campaign had let these ads go largely unanswered. But a “kill Romney” strategy can only work until people get to see Romney themselves. On Wednesday night, they did.

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The problem for Mr. Obama isn’t that he seemed indifferent or peevish on stage, though he did. The problem is that it underscored what has too often been his countenance in office.

He came to Denver with no larger theme he wanted urgently to get across, no story to tell, no apparent passion for the chance to make himself understood and make his opponent look silly. He was there to defend his policies, but he wasn’t going to get all needy about it, and no one was going to make him have an ounce of fun.

In contrast, Mitt Romney seemed eager to make his case, exhibiting some amount of apparent desperation, like the teenage suitor who has 10 minutes to convince his girlfriend’s father to bless the marriage. That desire to be understood counts for something.

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America got its first, sustained look at the good and competent Mr. Romney. And it really was a first. He wasted his convention but showed up for his debate, and an estimated 58 million people were watching. Many of them were taking his measure for the first time. What did they see? He was confident, gracious, in command of the facts. He looked like a president, acted like one. He was easily the incumbent’s equal and maybe more than that, so he became for the first time a real alternative to the incumbent, a living one, not just a name on a ballot.

He has been painted as Richie Rich, a too-tightly-wound reject from the Republican Animatronic Presidential Candidate Factory. But again, that’s not who he was. He was a normal, smart adult, and he knew things both about America and about public policy. He’s supposed to be extreme, but he was not in the least extreme. He spent his time talking not just to Republicans or conservatives but to the American people, a huge and varied lot. He reminded many of them of something they’d perhaps forgotten along the way: We don’t like the Obama economy! We don’t like ObamaCare! We don’t like not having jobs! Nothing personal, but this didn’t work!

Forced by time constraints to be clear and concise in his statements, he was both. Here we must stop and note: The way Mr. Romney spoke in the debate was the real Romney. The faux-flowery “prairie fire of debt” one we hear on the stump is the not-real Romney. He flowers himself up on the stump because he thinks it makes him sound better. It doesn’t. The real Romney is the one who can communicate. He’s straight and direct and not fancy, forgivably jargony, but worried about America and sincere. That’s the Romney who showed up for the debate. Stay that guy!

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Via Mediaite.

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0 is in a stranglehold baby’s!!!

Bmore on October 4, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Got it in one!

Scrumpy on October 4, 2012 at 10:42 PM

BISHOP!

Lanceman on October 4, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Bmore! You win!! :-)

Scrumpy on October 4, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Bmore! You win!! :-)

Scrumpy on October 4, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Yes, but did you see the trees in the forest?

Bmore on October 4, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Good evening

Jackalope on October 4, 2012 at 10:44 PM

https://twitter.com/CharlesDharapak/status/254023285350748160/photo/1/large

Great photo of the crowd at the event tonight

gophergirl on October 4, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Utter bullcaca

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 10:45 PM

I was at the rally in VA earlier this evening. The crowd was pumped!

changer1701 on October 4, 2012 at 10:45 PM

I AM in the trees! Need a flashlight…Can’t get out…

Scrumpy on October 4, 2012 at 10:45 PM

@ppppolls: Virginia voters with an opinion on who won the debate say Romney by more than a 3:1 margin on the first night of our poll

@ppppolls: As in Virginia, Wisconsin voters with an opinion on who won the debate say Romney by more than a 2:1 margin on 1st night of our poll

mrscullen on October 4, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Good evening everyone!!

Nice tune Bmore…

Scrumpy on October 4, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Update your facts. It was 67 million or 70 million. Not 58 million

BrianVII on October 4, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Obama was a mop..
Romney cleaned his clock..

Electrongod on October 4, 2012 at 10:47 PM

https://twitter.com/CharlesDharapak/status/254023285350748160/photo/1/large

Great photo of the crowd at the event tonight

gophergirl on October 4, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Dang straight..
Thanks.

Electrongod on October 4, 2012 at 10:48 PM

Bmore! You win!! :-)

Scrumpy on October 4, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Being used as a human waterski is winning?

Bishop on October 4, 2012 at 10:48 PM

The impact of the first debate is going to be bigger than we know. It’s going to affect thinking more than we know, and it’s going to start showing up in the polls, including in the battlegrounds, more dramatically than we guess.

It wasn’t just Mitt Romney’s strong performance. It was President Obama’s amazingly weak one. He’s never been punctured before. But by debate’s end Wednesday night, if you opened the window this is what you could hear: Ssssssss. The soft hiss of air departing from a balloon.

And—amazingly again—he did it to himself. He didn’t fight, he didn’t show, he wasn’t awake and hungry. He just said the same-old-same-old and let it go. He couldn’t even meet Mr. Romney’s gaze, never mind his arguments.

Is all this dispositive? Has it changed everything? No.

Balloons can get patched. Opportunities can be squandered. Luck can turn.

But this whole race is on the move again, it’s in play again, and it’s going to get fun.

But it’s going to get hot, too. And probably dirty.

She could have left the “probably” out. It’s going to get dirty because Michelle was so furious last night that she forbade Regie Love access to the WH for the next 3 1/2 months.

Peggy Noonan and David Brooks filled their Depends last night.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 10:50 PM

He was easily the incumbent’s equal and maybe more than that

Ya think?

davidk on October 4, 2012 at 10:51 PM

I’m glad you posted the Krauthammer clip, because I couldn’t agree more. All of those dishonest negative ads suddenly go poof!

John the Libertarian on October 4, 2012 at 10:51 PM

It’s been one helluva wonderful day of lib tears, disallusionment, and utter fear.

They couldn’t find a cohesive counter for it.

They’ve got NOTHING.

wolly4321 on October 4, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Allahpundit

…niece job tonight.
I’ve been in a good mood all day!

KOOLAID2 on October 4, 2012 at 10:52 PM

President Barack Obama accused the former Massachusetts governor of running from his own record in pursuit of political power

Why didn’t Obama slam Romney’s record during the debate?

Romney was there to correct him.

itsnotaboutme on October 4, 2012 at 10:53 PM

She could have left the “probably” out. It’s going to get dirty because Michelle was so furious last night that she forbade Regie Love access to the WH for the next 3 1/2 months.

Peggy Noonan and David Brooks filled their Depends last night.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 10:50 PM

http://cdn.pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/files/2012/10/20121004-083307.jpg

davidk on October 4, 2012 at 10:54 PM

I’m glad you posted the Krauthammer clip, because I couldn’t agree more. All of those dishonest negative ads suddenly go poof!

John the Libertarian on October 4, 2012 at 10:51 PM

All $150 million dollars worth of them!

Poof is right.

JPeterman on October 4, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Say Hi to Lanceman for me!!

Scrumpy on October 4, 2012 at 10:54 PM

OT/ Gallup says the unemployment rate tomorrow will be 7.9%

sandee on October 4, 2012 at 10:54 PM

itsnotaboutme on October 4, 2012 at 10:53 PM

It’s always about you, isn’t it.

Lanceman on October 4, 2012 at 10:54 PM

…niece job tonight.
I’ve been in a good mood all day!

KOOLAID2 on October 4, 2012 at 10:52 PM

He’s with who’s niece?

davidk on October 4, 2012 at 10:55 PM

…niece job tonight.
I’ve been in a good mood all day!

KOOLAID2 on October 4, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Same here..

As was all my friends at work…
Except one…

There is always one…

Electrongod on October 4, 2012 at 10:55 PM

OT/ Gallup says the unemployment rate tomorrow will be 7.9%

sandee on October 4, 2012 at 10:54 PM

You knew it was coming.

Lanceman on October 4, 2012 at 10:56 PM

sandee on October 4, 2012 at 10:54 PM

You knew it was coming.

Lanceman on October 4, 2012 at 10:56 PM

yup…

sandee on October 4, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Hi Scrumpy.

SparkPlug on October 4, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Hey, Scrumpers.

Lanceman on October 4, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Say Hi to Lanceman for me!!

Scrumpy on October 4, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Ok I will. I tell em you said “Hey”.

SparkPlug on October 4, 2012 at 10:57 PM

I hate to burst anyone’s bubble, but this just released video highlights what Romney may face in the next debate. Sorry.

bloggless on October 4, 2012 at 10:57 PM

romney shifted way left during the debates. i ‘m holding my nose till after the election.

heard rush and hannity. they give new meaning to the term harlot. now they swallow the whole romney load. after the election they spit it out and go back to backing conservative/tea party candidates and talking about how the NEXT election will be the most important.

its gotta be us people.

renalin on October 4, 2012 at 10:57 PM

10/3/2012
The day the rise of the oceans began to slow & the planet began to heal

22044 on October 4, 2012 at 10:57 PM

7.9% huh?

I guess the death panels are starting early.

Bishop on October 4, 2012 at 10:58 PM

I want to see a picture or video with Obama and his chickens coming home to roost… ;p

Where is Resist We Much, can we get her on that STAT… o_O

SWalker on October 4, 2012 at 10:58 PM

“You gonna see Goober later on? Tell him I said duh huh. He’ll know what you mean.

Lanceman on October 4, 2012 at 10:58 PM

evenin’ Sparky!

Scrumpy on October 4, 2012 at 10:58 PM

OT/ Gallup says the unemployment rate tomorrow will be 7.9%

sandee on October 4, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Reuters says 8.2 and Gallup says 7.9 – wonder who will be right.

gophergirl on October 4, 2012 at 10:58 PM

I heard tat not enough got employed to change the number

Scrumpy on October 4, 2012 at 10:59 PM

He’s with who’s niece?

davidk on October 4, 2012 at 10:55 PM

…didn’t even notice that! (:->)
I’ve still got a slight headache from last night!

KOOLAID2 on October 4, 2012 at 10:59 PM

Ok I will. I tell em you said “Hey”.

SparkPlug on October 4, 2012 at 10:57 PM

I wouldn’t say anything to Lancerman if I were you… I hear he’s fixin to steal your bicycle… :O

SWalker on October 4, 2012 at 10:59 PM

OT/ Gallup says the unemployment rate tomorrow will be 7.9%

sandee on October 4, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Someone here posted a link that said it goes up to 8.2.

JPeterman on October 4, 2012 at 10:59 PM

Lanceman on October 4, 2012 at 10:58 PM

funny you should mention gomer pyle(;

renalin on October 4, 2012 at 10:59 PM

OT/ Gallup says the unemployment rate tomorrow will be 7.9%

sandee on October 4, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Heh! DOJ threatening again?

ccrosby on October 4, 2012 at 10:59 PM

Romney had a 3.97 GPA while @ Harvard. Earning a dual JD/MBA. And Barry is a genius…?

BHO Jonestown on October 4, 2012 at 11:00 PM

I’ve still got a slight headache from last night!

KOOLAID2 on October 4, 2012 at 10:59 PM

What? You didn’t try the Mary Kathrine Ham approved medical Bacon therapy for a hangover? Shame on you… ;p

SWalker on October 4, 2012 at 11:00 PM

funny you should mention gomer pyle(;

renalin on October 4, 2012 at 10:59 PM

Um, that’s not Gomer Pyle. That’s John Boy & Billy.

Lanceman on October 4, 2012 at 11:01 PM

70 million people watched this:

Romney = Pistol Shrimp
Barky = Regular Shrimp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc

SparkPlug on October 4, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Hoyt, to be specific.

Lanceman on October 4, 2012 at 11:01 PM

7.9!!!

Woo Hoo!

Elect Obama in Nov.

And in fore years..

It may get down to 6.5

FORWARD

Electrongod on October 4, 2012 at 11:02 PM

SW He can try!!

Scrumpy on October 4, 2012 at 11:02 PM

renalin on October 4, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Bless your heart, the cream isn’t working. Is it?

cozmo on October 4, 2012 at 11:02 PM

I don’t understand that much just went to Gallops site.

sandee on October 4, 2012 at 11:03 PM

SparkPlug on October 4, 2012 at 10:57 PM

I wouldn’t say anything to Lancerman if I were you… I hear he’s fixin to steal your bicycle… :O

SWalker on October 4, 2012 at 10:59 PM

Well I better peddle faster then.

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SparkPlug on October 4, 2012 at 11:03 PM

And in fore years..

Electrongod on October 4, 2012 at 11:02 PM

Schadenfreudian slip?

Lanceman on October 4, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Romney didn’t think of the debate as a political dialogue but as a grueling, 90-minute competition that demanded discipline. He prepared in the same way he used to review pending business deals at Bain Capital: He challenged his closest advisers about the most minor points, he spent a lot of time reading, and he constantly bantered with his aides about the other side’s weaknesses and strengths.

Compare this to:

“debate prep is a drag”

Tim_CA on October 4, 2012 at 11:04 PM

OT/ Gallup says the unemployment rate tomorrow will be 7.9%

sandee on October 4, 2012 at 10:54 PM

So another half million or so left the job market.

chemman on October 4, 2012 at 11:04 PM

romney shifted way left during the debates. i ‘m holding my nose till after the election.

heard rush and hannity. they give new meaning to the term harlot. now they swallow the whole romney load. after the election they spit it out and go back to backing conservative/tea party candidates and talking about how the NEXT election will be the most important.

its gotta be us people.

renalin on October 4, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Oh shut up and be gone!

JPeterman on October 4, 2012 at 11:04 PM

Schadenfreudian slip?

Lanceman on October 4, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Yep..

Electrongod on October 4, 2012 at 11:05 PM

So another half million or so left the job market.

chemman on October 4, 2012 at 11:04 PM

That seems to be the pattern lately..

Lower the denominator…

Electrongod on October 4, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Anybody know who won the debate last night?

KCB on October 4, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Hey Obowma…

… Catch!

Seven Percent Solution on October 4, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Anybody know who won the debate last night?

KCB on October 4, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Clint Eastwood.

Tim_CA on October 4, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Anybody know who won the debate last night?

KCB on October 4, 2012 at 11:08 PM

America won.

cozmo on October 4, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Um, that’s not Gomer Pyle. That’s John Boy & Billy.

Lanceman on October 4, 2012 at 11:01 PM

goober was jim nabors cousing. you know the latters leanings. i thought you would appreciate the esoteric humor.

my bad.

renalin on October 4, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Busted – the 5 trillion tax cut Obama line from last night was a big fat lie and the liar in chief – Stephanie Cutter admits it.

Good for Mitt for not backing down.

BUSTED

gophergirl on October 4, 2012 at 11:09 PM

It’s been one helluva wonderful day of lib tears, disallusionment, and utter fear.

They couldn’t find a cohesive counter for it.

They’ve got NOTHING.

wolly4321 on October 4, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Apparently they have the War on Big Bird.

SAZMD on October 4, 2012 at 11:10 PM

It wasn’t just Mitt Romney’s strong performance. It was President Obama’s amazingly weak one. He’s never been punctured before. But by debate’s end Wednesday night, if you opened the window this is what you could hear: Ssssssss. The soft hiss of air departing from a balloon.

Therefore, you’re part of the problem Mizzz Noonan. It’s part of YOUR job to puncture.

SouthernGent on October 4, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Such a change from last night, a much nicer slower pace…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2VCwBzGdPM&feature=related

Scrumpy on October 4, 2012 at 11:11 PM

my bad.

renalin on October 4, 2012 at 11:09 PM

That’s a famous line from the end of any call to Hoyt from John-Boy & Billy.

Goober is half of ‘The Rev and Goob’.

If you’ve never listened to the John-Boy & Billy Big Show, it would make little sense.

Lanceman on October 4, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Anybody know who won the debate last night?

KCB on October 4, 2012 at 11:08 PM

I’m not sure, but I do know that King Barry didn’t get any last night.

JPeterman on October 4, 2012 at 11:11 PM

My sister sent me this. I have no idea where she got it, but it sounds VERY serious.

GET PREPARED ……………*

This morning the Muslim Brotherhood warned the United States that if the United States continued meddling in Egypt, Libya, and other potential hot spots in the Middle East, they intend to cut off America’s supply of 7-11 and Motel 6 managers.

If this action does not yield sufficient results, cab drivers will be next, followed by Dell, AT&T and AOL customer service reps.

Finally, if all else fails, they have threatened not to send us any more presidents.

Folks, It’s gonna get ugly!

VorDaj on October 4, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Seven Percent Solution on October 4, 2012 at 11:08 PM

Yep….Romney much caused a disturbance in force….Darth Tingles sensed it immediately

Tim_CA on October 4, 2012 at 11:11 PM

I tried to post the link, but its c n b c so I don’t think the moderator allowed it….

Market insider has the jobs numbers at 8.2% with 113,000 jobs added ahead of the official report on Friday.

Drudge has the story mid page, single line link.

thatsafactjack on October 4, 2012 at 11:13 PM

renalin on October 4, 2012 at 10:57 PM

You get paid by the word, right?

ccrosby on October 4, 2012 at 11:14 PM

And for the folks way up North!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2VCwBzGdPM&feature=related

Scrumpy on October 4, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Now barky has to bone up on foriegn policy? What a drag.

Mitt should make about a dozen calls to Bibi, just to spook the dogeater. Ask for additional intel briefs. Closed door meetings with Cheney and Rumsfield. Tell the media they discussed football.

wolly4321 on October 4, 2012 at 11:15 PM

I think Ed Shultz suffered a stroke.

Claimed that Obama didn’t want to come off as an angry black man.

I think that smirk ruined that effort.

Jvette on October 4, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Considering the Lib meltdown over this debate, I wonder what Nov. 7th is gonna look like….

KCB on October 4, 2012 at 11:16 PM

if all else fails, they have threatened not to send us any more presidents.

VorDaj on October 4, 2012 at 11:11 PM

lmao.

Tim_CA on October 4, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Drudge has the story mid page, single line link.

thatsafactjack on October 4, 2012 at 11:13 PM

Good Evening Jackie! That moderator is nuts I tell ya. Use tiny url to get around him. ; )

Bmore on October 4, 2012 at 11:16 PM

renalin on October 4, 2012 at 10:57 PM

No shift involved. Romney has always been a European style conservative that is someone who will be more conservative while managing the administrative state. Will he do a good job of that most likely. Will be actually move towards small government? That depends on the SMC’s holding his feet and congress’s feet to the fire.

My first election was Nixon vs. McGovern. Nixon was a European style conservative but was still infinitely better than McGovern. IMHO opinion this is the same situation. It might all blow up on us but tshtf definitely if we leave the “won” in office.

chemman on October 4, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Had planned to throw away my vote (Gary Johnson) because Mittens has zero chance here in Minny, but now tossing it Mitt’s way feels downright, well, subversive.

Long Live the Resistance!

Bruno Strozek on October 4, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Potential Craig’s List Ad

Missed Connections

We had a brief affair. You promised me some hope and change, but you don’t stop by anymore. I miss you.

SouthernGent on October 4, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Just read Noonan’s piece. She notes the Big Bird meme as well. Good thing the campaign is going to be about the issues.

SAZMD on October 4, 2012 at 11:18 PM

DonorGate + BenGhaziGate = I’m shocked that the Obama Admin would be so incompetent and devious.

SparkPlug on October 4, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Don’t let these jokers get you down, Ritalin. I will still call him Mittens and Rmoney.

Lanceman on October 4, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Bmore on October 4, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Good evening, B! So very nice to see you back! Thanks for the tip on the tiny url! So how as the trip? Did you see anything wonderful? Is the country still here? :)

thatsafactjack on October 4, 2012 at 11:19 PM

That moderator is nuts I tell ya.
Bmore on October 4, 2012 at 11:16 PM

And why should that moderator be any different from the rest of us y’all.

cozmo on October 4, 2012 at 11:20 PM

It was just the first debate, there are still much works to be done to get Barry thrown out by his ears in November. Don’t get cocky. Don’t let up. We want to see the same facial expression of Moochelle in that picture on the night of Nov 6.

bayview on October 4, 2012 at 11:20 PM

“Victory is in sight” Well said Mitt! Just don’t get cocky! The Failure-in-chief, with the help of the Obama Enemy media, will pull out every dirty trick and chicago style underhanded Mud slinging technique they have for round 2! You’re going to have to do an even better job on the next one! The Obama campaign staffers we laughingly refer to as reporters, will be spinning at 11,000 RPMs after the next debate or AxelFraud will Black list them from “Inside the Beltway” events!
Final UPDATE for those following:How to take on the Obama enemy media: http://paratisiusa.blogspot.com/2012/09/an-open-letter-to-those-who-should-know.html?spref=tw

God Bless America!

paratisi on October 4, 2012 at 11:21 PM

Hi Jackie! B! Scrumpy!

KCB on October 4, 2012 at 11:21 PM

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