George Will: Romney’s biggest achievement last night might have been changing the narrative

posted at 7:23 pm on October 4, 2012 by Allahpundit

Via the Daily Caller. Until around an hour ago, I was set to agree with him. Then this somehow ended up in my Twitter feed:

Trippi posted that around 6 p.m. ET tonight. I haven’t seen anything else about booming voter registration in the news yet, but as soon as I do, it’ll be on the front page. Stay tuned.

As for Will’s point about the narrative, see last night’s open thread post about the various forms of media bias. There were two types of bias working against Romney until last night, one the press’s obvious ideological preference for Democrats and the other their disdain for “stiff” candidates who aren’t good at retail politics. Put those two together and Romney’s slight slippage in the polls last month was all they needed to build a narrative about an awkward Republican nominee whose deficiencies had finally trapped him in a campaign death spiral. John Cook, in writing about this for Gawker, observed correctly that it’s hard to get out of the “weirdo box” once you’re in, but destroying the president of the United States — allegedly one of the great orators of the age — in a debate watched by 67 million people is one way to do it. It’s hard to see Romney as a sad sack after that unless you’re straining very hard to do it, and if you’re straining very hard to do it, then you’re already in the tank for Obama. Precisely because of that, in fact, Obama’s excuse-making today is even less convincing than expected:

Even more frustrating to many Obama supporters was the fact that the president’s muted tone was at least partly by design.

Multiple party strategists privately attributed Obama’s demeanor to an ailment that frequently affects incumbents: a fear of appearing too aggressive and risking a larger-scale misstep that could transform the campaign. Projecting a calm, reasonable — some said “presidential” — demeanor was the strategy during Obama’s debate-prep sessions outside of Las Vegas.

But as a result, Obama allowed Romney to set the terms for much of their Wednesday night faceoff at the University of Denver.

The last thing he should have been worried about last night was appearing too aggressive. The media’s sad-sack take on Romney had set O up perfectly to go out there as an alpha-male C-in-C by taking charge, keeping Mitt on the defensive, and forcing viewers to conclude that Romney really was the slightly ridiculous out-of-his-depth loser that they’d been told he was. Instead they saw him manhandle a sitting president, who’d survived twenty-something debates with Hillary Clinton and another three with McCain to win the presidency. If there really was a “strategic” element to last night’s performance, it’s among the dumbest miscalculations in recent campaign history.

So much for the old narrative. The new narrative, needless to say, will be “the Obama comeback,” with any signs of life from O at the next debate inflated into a “fiery” performance demonstrating the president’s “command” and “passion,” blah blah blah. There’s nothing Romney can do to prevent that, but he can blunt it with another solid performance. After last night, there’s every reason to expect he’ll deliver.


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…shut-up George!

KOOLAID2 on October 4, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Just read that towards the end and after the debate – Romney got a donation every 2 seconds. That’s amazing

gophergirl on October 4, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Even Will coming on board? Wow

AZfederalist on October 4, 2012 at 7:27 PM

…shut-up George!

KOOLAID2 on October 4, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Just as much knee-jerk as we’d expect from someone named KOOLAID.

KingGold on October 4, 2012 at 7:29 PM

in a debate watched by 67 million people

NYTimes says 70+ million.

ninjapirate on October 4, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Republican candidates have to find a way to get around the legacy media and define themselves. The legacy media just doesn’t like “weirdo box” candidates they have deeply invested into Dear Leader and they will destroy those that approach him…unless 67 million Americans are watching with their own eyes.

d1carter on October 4, 2012 at 7:30 PM

This has been a good 24 hours.

Chuck Schick on October 4, 2012 at 7:31 PM

George should quit his day job and re invent himself, maybe it would be fun. He used to be someone almost wise…peggy too.

Fleuries on October 4, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Nope. Wrong again Georgie.

The narrative from the commie media is still Republicans are lying- Democrites are so darn honest. Gosh.

And Obama is a victim too.

FlaMurph on October 4, 2012 at 7:32 PM

This has been a good 24 hours.

Chuck Schick on October 4, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Yes it has been.

gophergirl on October 4, 2012 at 7:32 PM

The narcissistic teenage emperor was exposed last night and the media was scared of what they saw, for the first time.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Whoops, misread. Emily Latella: “Never mind”

AZfederalist on October 4, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Superb display

Plus, that Christie stock went up. He as right.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Today the legacy media is covering Dear Leader trying to say what he couldn’t say last night…it’s hard out here presidentin’…

d1carter on October 4, 2012 at 7:36 PM

My 14 year old niece hated how Romney “looked like a crow when listening to Obama.”

So there is that.

bettycooper on October 4, 2012 at 7:37 PM

This has been a good 24 hours.

Chuck Schick on October 4, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Why yes it has, I walked around with a smile on my face all day and woke without a hangover.

JPeterman on October 4, 2012 at 7:38 PM

So much for the old narrative. The new narrative, needless to say, will be “the Obama comeback,” with any signs of life from O at the next debate inflated into a “fiery” performance demonstrating the president’s “command” and “passion,” blah blah blah.

Heh. Let them push that line. Suppose they really sell that. Voters are constantly mulling over what to make of Ovama’s comeback after his epic defeat at the hands of Romney. Yes, remind them day in and day out that Obama needed to come back from getting destroyed by his allegedly buffoonish rival.

You can’t talk about a comeback without reminding people over and over that Romney destroyed him.

RINO in Name Only on October 4, 2012 at 7:38 PM

The timing of this narrative was crucial. Early voting has begun, but only the extremist on both sides would have voted before waiting a couple of days to watch the debate. Clearly, alot waited and watched the debate. Now, any of the early voting will benefit to the Republican.

I believe Romney was losing by 1-2 points heading into last night. RCP had him losing by 3.1 over the last 8 polls and 2.3 points over the last 4 polls. So I think Obama +1 or +2 was a very accurate view. I predict Romney is now up 3-4 points. I know that sounds crazy, but just watch. It could be even more. And its always a good thing to be up 3-4 points when people are voting. Early voting has gone from a slight negative yesterday to a solid positive for the Republicans today. How quick the worm turns.

KMav on October 4, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Will and Krystal and all the others at the creepy standard should STFU. How they even consider themselves conservative is beyond me. When the spineless idiots of their ilk are all eliminated from power we will have a chance at a free and prosperous nation once again.

jistincase on October 4, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Will is another of whom Michelle Malkin aptly refers to as a ‘beltway barnacle’.
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Just get a gig being a ball boy for the Nationals, Poindexter.
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Your expiration date has come and gone.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on October 4, 2012 at 7:38 PM

This has been a good 24 hours.

Chuck Schick on October 4, 2012 at 7:31 PM
Yes it has been.

gophergirl on October 4, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Oh! Yes!
My lady parts agree too.

bettycooper on October 4, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Romney took 4+ years of media *ucktard malfeasance and neglect ran with it….

Chicago Jesus was going ‘How dare this man talk to me like this?’

BigWyo on October 4, 2012 at 7:39 PM

I did not watch the debates last night (but know I wish I had).

From what I read it sounds like Obama got his butt kicked.

Bryon Preston (some old school HA people may remember him) invoked the Winston Wolfe rule about the debate and I have to agree with him. In the next debate Romney can only go down and Obama can only go up in terms of performance according to the Media regardless of what actually occurs.

F15Mech on October 4, 2012 at 7:39 PM

There’s nothing Romney can do to prevent that, but he can blunt it with another solid performance. After last night, there’s every reason to expect he’ll deliver.


Yes, there is something Romney can do
… but let’s leave that as an unanswered question until the morning of October 12th.

PolAgnostic on October 4, 2012 at 7:39 PM

Damn. I wish Breitbart was around to see this.

BigAlSouth on October 4, 2012 at 7:40 PM

Well, that didn’t take long:

Hitler Finds Out Obama Lost the Debate

Mary in LA on October 4, 2012 at 7:40 PM

Gonna be hilarious if there’s no poll bump for Romney and all this celebrating was for nothing.

BTW, Mark Belling mentioned AGAIN how desperate the WI GOP is for volunteers. They have a fraction of the people that worked the recall and people can’t figure out why! Think it’s because Romney is getting his rear end kicked in WI? Think it might be because Obama is +11 here in the new MU poll? Why would someone want to work for a lost cause?

Funny thing was immediately after Belling’s show ended, I got a robo call from Walker asking me to help out on Saturday for a big phone bank effort. And this must have been recorded very recently since it mentioned the debate.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 7:40 PM

in a debate watched by 67 million people

See, that’s why the dems and their lapdog media are in a panic. They can’t control the story.

There were 70 million witnesses.

BacaDog on October 4, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Not a great picture but one of the RR event going on right now

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/253999258846519296/photo/1/large

gophergirl on October 4, 2012 at 7:41 PM

The preezy and his weezy were looking kinda sleezy.

jistincase on October 4, 2012 at 7:41 PM

The narcissistic teenage emperor was exposed last night and the media was scared of what they saw, for the first time.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 7:33 PM

So very true Schade, it is as if the media didn’t understand that keeping the boy king in a bubble would have a detrimental effect on him… How dare the uber rich Romney talk to the king that way, now where is my fainting couch :)

uncommon sense on October 4, 2012 at 7:42 PM

This has never been about who could be a better President than Obama, a bag of feathers could do that. The question has been could a Republican run a better campaign? We’ve seen enough candidates snatch victory from the jaws of defeat, that we can’t get over confidant…but it looks like Romney can pull it off.

halfbaked on October 4, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Damn. I wish Breitbart was around to see this.

BigAlSouth on October 4, 2012 at 7:40 PM

I’m sure he saw it all. His reward in heaven is to see the president who tried to destroy a private citizen be put to shame in front of seventy million people.

KingGold on October 4, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Oh for crying out loud, the “ailment that afflicts” this incumbent is not that he fears appearing too aggressive. It’s that he has decreed that he deserves to be reelected for no reason other than that he says so and by damn we should all go along with it and be grateful that he’s willing to defer his return to Olympus for 4 more

natasha333 on October 4, 2012 at 7:42 PM

0bama was pitiful in the debates against Hillary, until Hillary started acting like the President-elect.

pedestrian on October 4, 2012 at 7:42 PM

eke Miller ‏@ZekeJMiller

Romney reporters just let out a big “Wow” as Romney crowd came into view. Romney/Ryan/Trace Adkins here in Fisherville
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gophergirl on October 4, 2012 at 7:43 PM

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 7:40 PM

gubmintandplutocracy, of course there will be no bounce, they just put up D+20 samples to keep the one within the margin of error.

uncommon sense on October 4, 2012 at 7:43 PM

it’s among the dumbest miscalculations in recent campaign history.

AP, please! That is who obama IS!!! There was NO strategy. He is above thinking things through, he is above going to meetings. he is above persuading, he is above doing his homework, he is above debating…and has been his whole life!!! Can’t you see him 30 minutes into a prep session saying “I’ve had enough, going out to hit some balls”

There was NO strategy other than “I’m gonna go out and be me”

Quit over thinking!

winston on October 4, 2012 at 7:45 PM

The narcissistic teenage emperor was exposed last night and the media was scared of what they saw, for the first time.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Why are they scared, they created him and haven’t asked him a tough question in over 4 years.

They reap what they sow.

JPeterman on October 4, 2012 at 7:46 PM

The narrative? Will he and the Republican party change the political direction of this country this time around? That’s the important question and the answer is certainly not good.

rickv404 on October 4, 2012 at 7:46 PM

AP, please! That is who obama IS!!! There was NO strategy. He is above thinking things through, he is above going to meetings. he is above persuading, he is above doing his homework, he is above debating…and has been his whole life!!! Can’t you see him 30 minutes into a prep session saying “I’ve had enough, going out to hit some balls”

There was NO strategy other than “I’m gonna go out and be me”

Quit over thinking!

winston on October 4, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Exactly, and the media will softball me and believe everything I say, they will do my heavy lifting, and I can just go out and wow the masses with my awesome awesomness, because I’m the king.

uncommon sense on October 4, 2012 at 7:47 PM

Here is a good summary of the debate. Funny.

CableDude on October 4, 2012 at 7:48 PM

I’ve had a couple Independent friends (including girlfriend) state that the debate last night made them feel better now about voting for Romney. Hopefully Independents nationally follow suit…and the next couple of debates continue to win more over.

The reaction from my Democratic friends was priceless last night. Ranging from “Romney just lied” to “ehh, the debate wasn’t really a game changer and pretty much nobody won”. Ahh…love it.

nextgen_repub on October 4, 2012 at 7:48 PM

I wonder how the media will try to spin things on the Sunday shows? Yeah they mostly all said that Romney won, but surely they’ll come up with some kind of new spin between now and then. Or maybe there will be yet another squirrel moment coming tomorrow. Some old video or some crazy accusation – anything to take the discussion away from the debate.

supernova on October 4, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Will and Krystal and all the others at the creepy standard should STFU. How they even consider themselves conservative is beyond me. When the spineless idiots of their ilk are all eliminated from power we will have a chance at a free and prosperous nation once again.

jistincase on October 4, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Will and Kristol are not ‘in power.’ Who are you talking about?

bettycooper on October 4, 2012 at 7:48 PM

Now is a good time for Mitt to hit it hard on TV ads. I’ve only seen a few in PA. On Fox, so I am assuming he’s targeting Indies and moderate Dems.

More campaign ads and polling in PA, Mitt. I still believe you can win this state (commonwealth, more precisely).

Philly on October 4, 2012 at 7:50 PM

…an ailment that frequently affects incumbents: a fear of appearing too aggressive

Obama has no fear of appearing too aggressive… unless Romney is there in the room with him. He was certainly aggressive today on the campaign trail.
Obama is a coward. And a bully. Romney stood up to him and he folded.

topdog on October 4, 2012 at 7:50 PM

I predicted Sarah Palin would get in the race because she had been fully vetted and there was not dirt in her past, she had made all her money so she would be unlikely to compromise for personal gain, and she was an unabashed believer in the Creator.

When she declined, my first thought was Romney was probably going to be the nominee for the same reasons. I supported Santorum because he was so vocal in his beliefs. However, I was getting real nervous about Mitt until last night.

He is the man for this time, he is the single best hope for this country, and he has the mental control to politely beat the stuffing out of the preening pretentious cardboard cutout SCOAMF.

We might just make it through the repair-our-country process.

platypus on October 4, 2012 at 7:51 PM

What was more amazing to me was the media, DNC, handlers, etc. ALL lowering the debate bar for their punk, and he still failed to measure up…Americans do not like to associate themselves with a loser and I sincerely believe registration, polling, donations, etc. will be up significantly for GOP..

and if GOP debates are evidence, Mitt will persevere and do well in the next debates…

Still clutching to Mitt +7…

hillsoftx on October 4, 2012 at 7:53 PM

Obama is a coward. And a bully. Romney stood up to him and he folded.

topdog on October 4, 2012 at 7:50 PM

YUP! He is best at Hampton University when “the man” is nowhere around so he can RAIL unconstrained. The MAN shows up and he is the first out the door!

Quite frankly, he is a weak scared adolescent.

And he will do no better in the 2nd debate…he cannot change who he is in a few weeks and his record WILL NOT stand up to scrutiny!

winston on October 4, 2012 at 7:55 PM

Obama has no fear of appearing too aggressive… unless Romney is there in the room with him. He was certainly aggressive today on the campaign trail. Obama is a coward. And a bully. Romney stood up to him and he folded.

topdog on October 4, 2012 at 7:50 PM

It really is that simple, isn’t it? Same rules as the playground.

platypus on October 4, 2012 at 7:57 PM

“Now is a good time for Mitt to hit it hard on TV ads.”

Yes, it is, which is why he won’t do it. There will never be an ad blitz from Romney/Ryan. They lied about the shock and awe coming after the convention, and what you see is what you’re going to get.

Common sense would have dictated a full schedule of campaign appearances for the day after the debate. But not for Mitt Romney, who didn’t have a campaign stop until tonight in VA.

So all the major network news broadcasts had clips of Obama with his large crowds in CO and WI, with nothing from Romney. That’s not the way you win elections. He should have been in Ohio during the day and go to VA at night.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 7:57 PM

0bama was pitiful in the debates against Hillary, until Hillary started acting like the President-elect.

pedestrian on October 4, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Couldn’t agree more. I’ve often said that because of this, it was Hillary who actually gave us Obama. I’d also throw some blame McCain’s way but, really, it was going to be next to impossible to keep the White House that year.

TXUS on October 4, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Well, this will change the narrative:

Jobs Report May Mean More to Presidential Race Than Markets

…the unemployment rate edged up to 8.2 percent from August’s 8.1 percent, according to a Reuters survey.

Flora Duh on October 4, 2012 at 8:01 PM

“The new narrative, needless to say, will be “the Obama comeback,”…”

We know…

… and we are ready for it.

Seven Percent Solution on October 4, 2012 at 8:02 PM

This has been a good 24 hours.

Chuck Schick on October 4, 2012 at 7:31 PM
Why yes it has, I walked around with a smile on my face all day and woke without a hangover.

JPeterman on October 4, 2012 at 7:38 PM

…with all the *clinking* last night?…I HAD a hangover…but I’ve been smiling from the moment I got up!

KOOLAID2 on October 4, 2012 at 8:03 PM

George Will is sooo patrician.

Chris Christie is a partisan Republican? Geez.

SouthernGent on October 4, 2012 at 8:04 PM

eke Miller ‏@ZekeJMiller

Romney reporters just let out a big “Wow” as Romney crowd came into view. Romney/Ryan/Trace Adkins here in Fisherville
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gophergirl on October 4, 2012 at 7:43 PM

gumbey and poker patented losers should see this, earlier on the thread he was accusing Mitt that he is slacking and not doing campaign events post-debate, like the boy king…

jimver on October 4, 2012 at 8:04 PM

But not for Mitt Romney, who didn’t have a campaign stop until tonight in VA.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Mitt Romney At CPAC Colorado – October 4 2012

Flora Duh on October 4, 2012 at 8:06 PM

overall a great day today.

maineconservative on October 4, 2012 at 8:06 PM

…with all the *clinking* last night?…I HAD a hangover…but I’ve been smiling from the moment I got up!

KOOLAID2 on October 4, 2012 at 8:03 PM

Well, I avoided that problem by not stopping the *clinkage*. ;-)

TXUS on October 4, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Flora Duh on October 4, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Uh Oh

gophergirl on October 4, 2012 at 8:08 PM

But not for Mitt Romney, who didn’t have a campaign stop until tonight in VA.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Mitt Romney At CPAC Colorado – October 4 2012

Flora Duh on October 4, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Please don’t feed the gubmintandplutocracy… it just makes him dependent and rifle through the trash cans for sustenance. He will have to be relocated, as he will become a problem Dbear, as he won’t be able to fend for himself :)

uncommon sense on October 4, 2012 at 8:08 PM

George Will is sooo patrician.

Chris Christie is a partisan Republican? Geez.

SouthernGent on October 4, 2012 at 8:04 PM

He’s either a partisan Republican or a moderate appeaser. I can’t believe you’re whining about him being described as the former.

KingGold on October 4, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Hey! I’d like to suggest a come-back that Team Obama can use:

HE’S RESTED, HE’S READY!

It worked so well for Gore.

GarandFan on October 4, 2012 at 8:12 PM

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Wow, pokedinmygummy is just all over the place with out some dog$hit polling data to prattle on about…

BigWyo on October 4, 2012 at 8:13 PM

uncommon sense on October 4, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Thanks for the advice, but dummyanddopey knows I won’t give his lies a pass. Besides it really gets under his skin when I drop facts on him to counter his “unbiased opinion.”

Flora Duh on October 4, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Thanks for the advice, but dummyanddopey knows I won’t give his lies a pass. Besides it really gets under his skin when I drop facts on him to counter his “unbiased opinion.”

Flora Duh on October 4, 2012 at 8:14 PM

I know Flora, but I just couldn’t resit the public service announcement :)

It was the proper progressive/liberal thing to do LOL!

uncommon sense on October 4, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Why are they scared, they created him and haven’t asked him a tough question in over 4 years.

They reap what they sow.

JPeterman on October 4, 2012 at 7:46 PM

Because their eyes opened and they were embarrassed. Until now they’d been feasting on his caca, mistaking it for Beluga caviar. He is their creation but he scared them last night. It’ll be fun going forward.

He loves himself more than them. They love themselves more than him.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Economists expect employers added 113,000 jobs in September, while the unemployment rate edged up to 8.2 percent from August’s 8.1 percent, according to a Reuters survey. Friday’s report will be the second-to-last before the November election.

Flora, killer. Thanks. I thought they’d doctor the number to be 7.9%, then up it next week, when no one watches, or not at all.

Btw, the markets are up only due to anticipation of Romney winning. They always factor things in ahead of time.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 8:22 PM

The new narrative, needless to say, will be “the Obama comeback,” with any signs of life from O at the next debate inflated into a “fiery” performance demonstrating the president’s “command” and “passion,” blah blah blah.

The next debate is supposed to focus on foreign policy.

How’s that been going for the Man-Child?

iurockhead on October 4, 2012 at 8:23 PM

watched the Romney/Ryan event in VA on Cspan which covered the entire thing including Trace Atkins performance :)

There was even fireworks at the end of Romney’s speech.

Good Stuff!!!

CoffeeLover on October 4, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Good point George, but what Mitt needed, was to get viewership to see that the “Narrative” was all a Creation of the Obama Campaign staffers we laughingly refer to as reporters! Between the AxelFraud BS and the sycophants in the media pushing a bunch of out-rite lies and distortions about Romney, all he needed was an audience without the media filter!
Final UPDATE for those following:How to take on the Obama Enemy media: http://paratisiusa.blogspot.com/2012/09/an-open-letter-to-those-who-should-know.html?spref=tw

God Bless America!

paratisi on October 4, 2012 at 8:25 PM

That’s amazing about the online GOP voter registrations.

I read today at the Examiner that requests for early voting absentee ballots in Ohio are way up for GOP voters and may be surpassing Dem requests.

I heard in a report from Carl Cameron on FOX during Brett Baier’s show tonight that according to the Romney campaign they’ve been receiving a donation every 2 seconds today.

Things is lookin’ up!

stukinIL4now on October 4, 2012 at 8:25 PM

I forgot to mention that, oh, it looks like Romney woke up George Will, too, eh?

stukinIL4now on October 4, 2012 at 8:27 PM

But not for Mitt Romney, who didn’t have a campaign stop until tonight in VA.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 7:57 PM

.
This is as stupid now as it was when you posted this spewy this morning.

Maybe he was prepping for the next debate today.

You could criticize him for preparing too much , also.

FlaMurph on October 4, 2012 at 8:31 PM

The next debate is supposed to focus on foreign policy.
How’s that been going for the Man-Child?
iurockhead on October 4, 2012 at 8:23 PM

I thought the next thing was the Candy Crowley town hall.

MeatHeadinCA on October 4, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Topic: Domestic policy
Air Time: 9-10:30 p.m. Easter Standard Time
Location: University of Denver in Denver, Colorado
Sponsor: Commission on Presidential Debates
Participants: President Barack Obama and Governor Mitt Romney
Moderator: Jim Lehrer (Host of NewsHour on PBS)

The debate focused on domestic policy and was divided into six time segments of approximately 15 minutes each on topics selected by the moderator, including healthcare, government’s role and the deficit.

Lehrer opened each segment with a question, after which each candidate was given two minutes to respond. Then the two candidates used the remaining time to discuss the topic.

October 11, 2012
Vice Presidential

Topic: Foreign and domestic policy
Air Time: 9-10:30 p.m. Eastern Standard Time
Location: Centre College in Danville, Kentucky (Tickets)
Sponsor: Commission on Presidential Debates
Participants: Vice President Joe Biden and Congressman Paul Ryan
Moderator: Martha Raddatz (ABC News Chief Foreign Correspondent)

The debate will cover both foreign and domestic topics and be divided into nine time segments of approximately 10 minutes each. The moderator will ask an opening question, after which each candidate will have two minutes to respond. The moderator will use the balance of the time in the segment for a discussion of the question.

October 16, 2012

Topic: Town meeting format including foreign and domestic policy
Air Time: 9-10:30 p.m. Eastern Standard Time
Location: Hofstra University in Hempstead, New York (Tickets)
Sponsor: Commission on Presidential Debates
Participants: President Barack Obama and Governor Mitt Romney
Moderator: Candy Crowley (CNN Chief Political Correspondent)

The second presidential debate will take the form of a town meeting, in which citizens will ask questions of the candidates on foreign and domestic issues. Candidates each will have two minutes to respond, and an additional minute for the moderator to facilitate a discussion. The town meeting participants will be undecided voters selected by the Gallup Organization.

October 22, 2012

Topic: Foreign policy
Air Time: 9-10:30 p.m. Eastern Standard Time
Location: Lynn University in Boca Raton, Florida (Tickets)
Sponsor: Commission on Presidential Debates
Participants: President Barack Obama and Governor Mitt Romney
Moderator: Bob Schieffer (Host of Face the Nation on CBS)

The format for the debate will be identical to the first presidential debate and will focus on foreign policy.

http://durham.patch.com/articles/presidential-debate-schedule-2012-add3ab8a

CoffeeLover on October 4, 2012 at 8:35 PM

MeatHeadinCA on October 4, 2012 at 8:31 PM

sorry I forgot how to make the link thing work…but yes the Town Hall format is next according to this.

CoffeeLover on October 4, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Flora, killer. Thanks. I thought they’d doctor the number to be 7.9%, then up it next week, when no one watches, or not at all.

Btw, the markets are up only due to anticipation of Romney winning. They always factor things in ahead of time.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 8:22 PM

..Floh’s reporting the Reuters poll; the BLS numbers comes out tomorrow at 0830 EDT.

Prepare.

I predict 110,000 and 8.0%

The War Planner on October 4, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Damn. I wish Breitbart was around to see this.

BigAlSouth on October 4, 2012 at 7:40 PM

Somewhere in heaven, he’s smiling down, thinking he knew it all the time. :)

itsspideyman on October 4, 2012 at 8:39 PM

The narcissistic teenage emperor was exposed last night and the media was scared of what they saw, for the first time.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 7:33 PM

He has never had to face tough scrutiny his entire life. IL state and fed seats greased for him. One party rule in that state, never any tough debates or having to go beyond an “I won John” mentality. I knew he would fook it up last night just a little surprised it was so bad.

arnold ziffel on October 4, 2012 at 8:41 PM

We didn’t see just a presidential candidate. We saw a highly successful business executive, skilled in persuading and leading. Gentlemen, meet The Chairman of the Board.

njcommuter on October 4, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Damn. I wish Breitbart was around to see this.

BigAlSouth on October 4, 2012 at 7:40 PM

I’ve thought that so often too, when I see inspired citizens leaving their comfort zones and being bold. This one’s for you, Andrew. #war

hoosiermama on October 4, 2012 at 8:59 PM

winston on October 4, 2012 at 7:45 PM
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A great point.
He wasn’t “off his game” as some would say. He will not improve in the coming debates. This is who he is.

diogenes on October 4, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Btw, the markets are up only due to anticipation of Romney winning. They always factor things in ahead of time.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 8:22 PM

yep

WSJ and business insider agree that what we witnessed today was a romney wall street rally..

jimver on October 4, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Gonna be hilarious if there’s no poll bump for Romney and all this celebrating was for nothing.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 7:40 PM

The truth hurts.

ddrintn on October 4, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Obama is a phony and now more people know what we have known for over four years.

Let me be clear….

Sherman1864 on October 4, 2012 at 9:47 PM

Obama needed to win this debate more than Romney needed to. He lost… badly.

Obama needed to look like a great candidate for the next 4 years.

Romney only needed to look like a viable candidate.

This debate made Romney look like a good candidate and made Obama look like a fool.

As a result people are now flocking towards the new ‘Strong horse’.

Chaz706 on October 5, 2012 at 12:47 AM

Oh… and just while everyone else is piling on…

‘The death of a false god can be pinpointed to the first moment someone drew blood.’

There’s blood in the water. The sharks know it and are circling.

The False god’s campaign is dead in the water. He doesn’t know it yet, but it is. This is going to break for Romney in the same way that the 1980 election did for Reagan after the debates.

Chaz706 on October 5, 2012 at 12:49 AM

“Changing the narrative?” Come on, the only rational question was whether to allow Obama to go with his pension or face criminal charges – since he could pardon himself if he wished, it’s a moot point.

The irrational cannot be reached anyway.

Adjoran on October 5, 2012 at 3:38 AM

The media will tell America’s dope population that Obama is brilliant and, Poof, Obama’s brilliant. They will hammer it,they have to save the lttle dope.
The really odd thing is the genuine surprise at O’s stupidity, the high IQ guy, a whiz they said. Why? Because his politics are theirs, speaking of stupidity.

arand on October 5, 2012 at 8:36 AM

George Will is still a Fop

Natebo on October 5, 2012 at 5:45 PM