58 million viewers: Debate ratings top first debate from 2008; Update: Revised upwards to 67.2 million; Update: 70 million?

posted at 4:41 pm on October 4, 2012 by Allahpundit

The last time a beating this brutal drew a wider audience was Ali-Foreman, I believe.

More than 58 million people watched the first Presidential debate last night between President Obama and Mitt Romney, up substantially from the first debate in the 2008 election cycle, which had 52.4 million viewers.

Fox News was the most-watched cable news network during the debate, and will likely be the most-watched network on TV, though final broadcast numbers will not be released until after 4 PM.

The second Obama/McCain debate in 2008 drew 63.2 million but those ratings were goosed by off-the-charts public interest in Palin’s VP debate held five days earlier. Ryan/Biden won’t build the same degree of curiosity for Romney/Obama II, but the fact that Romney destroyed The One yesterday might. Casual voters who passed on last night’s show will see the headlines today and wonder if Romney can do it again; pair that with the fact that the next debate is a townhall format, which adds a bit of unpredictability, and you might see huge ratings on October 16. Then again, the first debate is usually (but not always) the highest-rated of the three, probably because of the novelty of seeing the combatants finally together on stage and dueling. That being so, if there’s any debate to which you want to bring your A-game, it’s the first — which is why desperate rationalizations like this are even dumber and lamer than they appear:

I promised you the Luntz focus-group video in last night’s thread but it wasn’t posted until late, so here it is at last. (MSNBC’s focus group also agreed that Romney won.) Can’t wait to see which new persona O rolls out 12 days from now to overcompensate for last night’s deficiencies. If you disliked him as the passive, lethargic incumbent forced to defend a failed presidency, you’ll loathe the angry, table-pounding class warrior who wants to know Mitt Romney’s annual effective tax rates since 1970 and wants to know them now, mister.


Update: I take it back. I should have said that a beating this brutal hasn’t been seen by so many people since Frazier-Ali I:

I forgot how dramatically the ratings can inflate after the preliminary assessments. With the new numbers, it turns out Romney/Obama drew nearly as many viewers as the Palin/Biden VP blowout in 2008. Bad, bad, bad timing for The One to perform so terribly.

Update: A fair point by the NYT:


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Rush Limbaugh said “Obama came off worse last night than he did with his debate with Clint Eastwood”.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Ace is having a field day. We’re going to win this, folks.

John the Libertarian on October 4, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Beats WWE!

they lie on October 4, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Can’t wait to see which new persona O rolls out 12 days from now to overcompensate for last night’s deficiencies.

Will it be the Chicago Basketballer persona askin’ NOLA “Where your dollar at?”

ted c on October 4, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Doesn’t matter, nobody really watches these things. Debates don’t really matter anyway.

- MSM

Eschelon on October 4, 2012 at 4:45 PM

58 Million people witnessed Pantload filling his pants last night…

… That kind of advertising is worth it’s weight in Gold!

Seven Percent Solution on October 4, 2012 at 4:45 PM

More than 58 million people watched the first Presidential debate last night between President Obama and Mitt Romney

Obama was wrong on this too. He said to his ‘sweetie’ that “40 million” will watch. He was right in one regards, that they won’t celebrate next year’s anniv. with this many viewers. They’ll be in Hawaii.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 4:45 PM

If you disliked him as the passive, lethargic incumbent forced to defend a failed presidency, you’ll loathe the angry, table-pounding class warrior who wants to know Mitt Romney’s annual effective tax rates since 1970 and wants to know them now, mister.

Yeah, that’ll win over independents. Go into “angry black man” mode.

Doughboy on October 4, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Ali-Foreman

HAHAHAHA! Obama wishes he’d been playing rope a dope.

livefreerdie on October 4, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Love it, let the whining begin

theblacksheepwasright on October 4, 2012 at 4:46 PM

If you disliked him as the passive, lethargic incumbent forced to defend a failed presidency, you’ll loathe the angry, table-pounding class warrior who wants to know Mitt Romney’s annual effective tax rates since 1970 and wants to know them now, mister.

the NYT blog called him “President X*anax

ted c on October 4, 2012 at 4:46 PM

If Ace and AP are a tad upbeat there is some hope.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Screw all the talking heads…hire Dennis Miller to provide running commentary. That’s a pay-per-view opportunity that I would gladly purchase for high level entertainment!!!!

search4truth on October 4, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Luntz focus-group video

Why anyone pays any attention to this garbage is beyond me.

they lie on October 4, 2012 at 4:46 PM

HAHAHAHA! Obama wishes he’d been playing rope a dope.

livefreerdie on October 4, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Clever one, on yer nom!!!

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 4:47 PM

More than 58 million people watched the first Presidential debate last night between President Obama and Mitt Romney, up substantially from the first debate in the 2008 election cycle, which had 52.4 million viewers.
==================

The truth is getting out there….

……Hal a Lou ya!!!

canopfor on October 4, 2012 at 4:47 PM

I don’t understand why so many people. I had bought the line that everyone had already made up their mind. If that’s not so, the polls so far have been even more meaningless than all of us had thought.

thuja on October 4, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Well if obama is going to come out as the angry combative obama, then who was luring who Mr. Blow?That’s exactly what we have wanted. obama having a full melt down…

sandee on October 4, 2012 at 4:48 PM

all that work to push polling on us in order to deflate the electorate…wasted. Pity.

DanMan on October 4, 2012 at 4:48 PM

The real loser last night was the MSM who has kept this empty chair under wraps for 5 yrs.

they lie on October 4, 2012 at 4:49 PM

I really don’t see this happening with Romney, but he cannot afford to get cocky. He has got to know that it’s only going to get more brutal from here because the media is going to do whatever they have to do to make sure that it’s Romney’s blood in the water next time around, not that of heir (incompetent, arrogant, narcissistic, inept, bloviating, detached, lazy) hero.

natasha333 on October 4, 2012 at 4:49 PM

Some people suggest that Obama is luring Romney like the Russians lured Napoleon, getting him in too deep and out of his element. Maybe…
— Charles M. Blow (@CharlesMBlow) October 4, 2012

This azz has the most perfect name in all the world.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 4:49 PM

According to overnight numbers provided by Nielsen Media Research, FNC beat all broadcast and cable news networks yesterday evening. It averaged 10.4 million viewers from 9:00-10:30 p.m. EST, with nearly three million viewers in the key 25-54-year old demographic.

FNC nearly doubled CNN’s audience of 6 million viewers and more than doubled MSNBC’s viewership of 4.7 million. It also handily beat CBS, ABC and NBC during the actual debate.

It was a historic night for Fox News, giving the channel its highest-rated presidential debate ever. Also, FNC marked its third highest-rated prime time last night, with an average of 8.2 million viewers.

9:00-10:30PM (actual debate)

FNC: 10,421,380 in total viewers (2,932,907 in 25-54)

CNN: 6,045,109 in total viewers (2,368,589 in 25-54)

MSNBC: 4,710,511 in total viewers (1,852,629 in 25-54)

Broadcast Fast Nationals 9-10:30PM:

CBS 10,176,000

ABC 10,117,000

NBC 9,914,000

FOX 6,977,000

8:00-11:00PM (primetime coverage)

FNC: 8,181,448 in total viewers (2,159,809 in 25-54)

CNN: 4,763,003 in total viewers (1,851,207 in 25-54)

MSNBC: 3,913,759 in total viewers (1,481,901 in 25-54)

FlatFoot on October 4, 2012 at 4:49 PM

If you disliked him as the passive, lethargic incumbent forced to defend a failed presidency, you’ll loathe the angry, table-pounding class warrior who wants to know Mitt Romney’s annual effective tax rates since 1970 and wants to know them now, mister.

You “racist”!

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Can’t wait to see which new persona O rolls out 12 days from now to overcompensate for last night’s deficiencies.

The black preacher ,
the one who screams ” we bombed Hiroshima we bombed Nagasaki and never batted an aaaaaaaiiiiiii…and now we are indignant ?”
accompanied with a chorus of clapping and hollering morons .

burrata on October 4, 2012 at 4:50 PM

I have to disagree with you here, AP. All of the rope-a-dope rationalizations I have seen since last night couldn’t possibly be any dumber and lamer than they appear.

And I don’t think the Russians did it on purpose.

Xasprtr on October 4, 2012 at 4:51 PM

“Last night was not a sporting event. Last night was a discussion about the future of our Country, and it was conducted brilliantly by Mitt Romney. Substance, energy, passion, good cheer, inspiration, infectiousness, nice guy, all of it. Bold! Last night was bold leadership.” – El Rushbo

And there was nothing the media or Obowma could do to stop it…

… Hence, the panic today.

Seven Percent Solution on October 4, 2012 at 4:51 PM

so let me get the left straight, Obama lost on purpose to gin up base support? Good grief these people need medication!

rob verdi on October 4, 2012 at 4:51 PM

A lot of people saw a true beating! The water cooler talk was at an all time high as well. The VP debate is next, the roles are reversed. Everybody expects Ryan to beat Biden while Joey tries to distract by screaming “Squirrel”, when he feels beaten. Given Joeys intellect, that may happen in the opening remarks! In the Romney/Obama round #2, Mitt better be ready for the chicago style BS & low blow machine to be in full swing. The other thing is that the Obama Enemy media will not allow the “off the plantation” remarks you saw after the first debate. Anyone caught, not towing the Obama line, may well never see another one of the Messiah’s appearances, per AxelFraud!
FINAL UPDATE for those following:How to take on the Obama Enemy media: http://paratisiusa.blogspot.com/2012/09/an-open-letter-to-those-who-should-know.html?spref=tw

God Bless America!

paratisi on October 4, 2012 at 4:52 PM

It’s gonna be 65 million+ viewers when you count PBS, BET, C-SPAN, Spanish channels, etc.

65 million viewers saw Obama stink up the joint.

sentinelrules on October 4, 2012 at 4:52 PM

so let me get the left straight, Obama lost on purpose to gin up base support? Good grief these people need medication!

rob verdi on October 4, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Oh, c’mon. Lots of politicians deliberately lose debates to energize their base. Like….uh, well Obama is a trailblazer!

Doughboy on October 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM

so let me get the left straight, Obama lost on purpose to gin up base support? Good grief these people need medication!

rob verdi on October 4, 2012 at 4:51 PM

How in the world is that even supposed to work?

Bitter Clinger on October 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM

In other words:

Let me be clear — I did not fail that.

Someone else made that happen.

Heh.

FlatFoot on October 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Can’t wait to see which new persona O rolls out 12 days from now to overcompensate for last night’s deficiencies.

“It’s not God bless America, it’s Gd America. My beard, er, my wife doesn’t like this country any more”.

Michelle forbade Reggie Love entry to the WH for the next 3 1/2 months.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Smells great doesn’t it?? Like the smell of a Crispy Cream doughnut. Sweet and fresh. That’s what Romney did to Obama last night. Put him in the fryer and turned him in to a Crispy Cream doughnut. Only thing is Obama did such a poor job that I believe that the American public will not eat up anymore of his socialist rhertoic. May as well throw it in the trash and go on a diet America.

Raquel Pinkbullet on October 4, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Wonder how the Ryan joe will do for viewers? We sure plan to watch to see Paul crater joe!
L

letget on October 4, 2012 at 4:56 PM

” Let me be clear — I did not fail that.

Someone else made that happen.

Heh.

John eff Kerry ?

burrata on October 4, 2012 at 4:56 PM

I bet they’ll docter the jobs report for tomorrow.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 4:56 PM

Mmmmmm doughnuts.

Brat on October 4, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Do you remember how we lamented during the Spring primary season about how a prolonged primary would hurt our candidate? Well? Did it? I don’t think so at all. Mitt Romney was stellar–well prepared, sharpened, agile, and in great command of the facts, as well as himself. His nonverbals were great–facial expressions and how he directly addressed the president to his face. At one point, he essentially called the president a liar, maybe twice, IIRC. Today, Mitt ought to be thanking Newt, Rick, Herman and company, IMO. they really helped toughen him up. Obama was used to just softballs, tonguebaths, and the squishiness of the View’s couch. Hard to do debate prep with those methods.

ted c on October 4, 2012 at 4:57 PM

the next debate is a townhall format

Those are extremely boring and the ususally the least consequential of the three debates.

So Obama’s last chance to for a comeback will be on the 3rd Debate on October 22nd – Topic: Foreign Policy…LOL

Norwegian on October 4, 2012 at 4:57 PM

If you disliked him as the passive, lethargic incumbent forced to defend a failed presidency, you’ll loathe the angry, table-pounding class warrior who wants to know Mitt Romney’s annual effective tax rates since 1970 and wants to know them now, mister.

Ha!

Rational Thought on October 4, 2012 at 4:58 PM

I agree with AP, this first debate was by far the most crucial one. The next two debates will have much less novelty and thus much fewer interested viewers.

This first debate has set the narrative and it will be very difficult for Obama to turn things around.

tkyang99 on October 4, 2012 at 4:58 PM

The Town Hall debate format is likely to work well for Obama. It’s in these settings that he gets close to his adoring masses – much as he actually abhors having to do so (they’re too clueless to pick that up). Who for one minute believes that the composition of the audience won’t be be stacked in Obama’s favor?

If Obama feels the love coming off of his empty-headed minions, he’ll be in his milieu. Remember, he’s got that (wholly undeserved) likeability thing going for him (so they tell me; I don’t see it.) The worshippers won’t care if he doesn’t answer questions or meanders or gets preachy – they will simply be thrilled that their god has deigned to talk directly to them (sigh) and they will turn on anyone (namely Romney) who does now similarly bow down in adoration to The One.

natasha333 on October 4, 2012 at 4:59 PM

I really don’t see this happening with Romney, but he cannot afford to get cocky. He has got to know that it’s only going to get more brutal from here because the media is going to do whatever they have to do to make sure that it’s Romney’s blood in the water next time around, not that of heir (incompetent, arrogant, narcissistic, inept, bloviating, detached, lazy) hero.

natasha333 on October 4, 2012 at 4:49 PM

At the same time Romney spooked media.
How sure are they Obama can win?
Is it worth it to protect him?

the_nile on October 4, 2012 at 4:59 PM

I don’t see a town hall format being any better for little Bammy. The same themes will be touched on as last night’s debate and Obama will get his head caved in all over again.

eyedoc on October 4, 2012 at 4:59 PM

I can only see this getting better for Obama. I mean, he has a few things he can discuss that should certainly help him—Fast& Furious, Benghazi, Ambassador Stevens, Libya, Egypt and Syria to name a few.

should be good to go./

ted c on October 4, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Obama was wrong on this too. He said to his ‘sweetie’ that “40 million” will watch. He was right in one regards, that they won’t celebrate next year’s anniv. with this many viewers. They’ll be in Hawaii.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 4:45 PM

B.O. stinks at math.

Nicole Coulter on October 4, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Luntz focus-group video

Why anyone pays any attention to this garbage is beyond me.

they lie on October 4, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Luntz didn’t invent focus groups. One of the pioneers was Peter Hart, who was using them decades ago. He seems to specialize in doing them for Democrats.

Del Dolemonte on October 4, 2012 at 5:01 PM

ted c on October 4, 2012 at 4:57 PM

I think Ann Coulter had that same take a few months ago. And it sure rang true last night didn’t it? Obama looked like he was hearing from an adult for the first time in his life.

DanMan on October 4, 2012 at 5:01 PM

townhall formats are stilted and unhelpful.

ted c on October 4, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Do you remember how we lamented during the Spring primary season about how a prolonged primary would hurt our candidate? Well? Did it? I don’t think so at all. Mitt Romney was stellar–well prepared, sharpened, agile, and in great command of the facts, as well as himself. His nonverbals were great–facial expressions and how he directly addressed the president to his face. At one point, he essentially called the president a liar, maybe twice, IIRC. Today, Mitt ought to be thanking Newt, Rick, Herman and company, IMO. they really helped toughen him up. Obama was used to just softballs, tonguebaths, and the squishiness of the View’s couch. Hard to do debate prep with those methods.

Yeah totally. I can’t think of better debate prep in the world than going toe to toe with Newt for 19 debates. Looking at Mitt’s smirk last night, I can just imagine him thinking “I can’t believe how easy this is!”

tkyang99 on October 4, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 4:56 PM

You probably could put money on that! And the last one for Oct. will really get the bho is getten it done on jobs?
L

letget on October 4, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Some people suggest that Obama is luring Romney like the Russians lured Napoleon, getting him in too deep and out of his element. Maybe…

Possible, I suppose if Debate Obama 2.0 can compare to having your army at the mercy of the Russian steppes. Or, as Obama might say, The Russians had the Russian winter, but this time you will have ME!

Lily on October 4, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Do you remember how we lamented during the Spring primary season about how a prolonged primary would hurt our candidate? Well? Did it? I don’t think so at all. Mitt Romney was stellar–well prepared, sharpened, agile, and in great command of the facts, as well as himself. His nonverbals were great–facial expressions and how he directly addressed the president to his face. At one point, he essentially called the president a liar, maybe twice, IIRC. Today, Mitt ought to be thanking Newt, Rick, Herman and company, IMO. they really helped toughen him up. Obama was used to just softballs, tonguebaths, and the squishiness of the View’s couch. Hard to do debate prep with those methods.

ted c on October 4, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Yup , In theory you can practice for it , but a live Newt is a different thing.

the_nile on October 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM

the next debate is a townhall format
Those are extremely boring and the ususally the least consequential of the three debates.

So Obama’s last chance to for a comeback will be on the 3rd Debate on October 22nd – Topic: Foreign Policy…LOL

Norwegian on October 4, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Oof, didn’t realize. Something tells me all the questions to Romney are going to be “How did you feel not paying any taxes the past 20 years” and “So tell us again Mitt, just how secretive are you?” Obama’s questions will make The View and US Weekly look like a death penalty case in comparison.

smfic on October 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM

The important thing is that the Romney team has it’s “no applause” clause in effect for the town hall. Obama thrives on adulation, and loses focus when there’s silence after he speaks.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM

HAHAHAHA! Obama wishes he’d been playing rope a dope.

livefreerdie on October 4, 2012 at 4:45 PM

I guess some things in life are just so blindingly obvious that even a Kool Aid drinker must admit the truth.

NotCoach on October 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Looking at Mitt’s smirk last night, I can just imagine him thinking “I can’t believe how easy this is!”

tkyang99 on October 4, 2012 at 5:02 PM

yeah really! I mean, if you can debate Newt….then obama is a friggin appetizer….not a very palatable one, but you get my drift.

ted c on October 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM

“Pffft. A poll of street bums that I provided with ciggies shows an overwhelming advantage for Obama. Mittens Money Boy is going to lose BIGTIME! BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! His campaign is in disarray.

Did I mention I’m a centrist non-partisan?”

-Gumboandpokeme

Bishop on October 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Is it worth it to protect him?

the_nile on October 4, 2012 at 4:59 PM

We’re about to find out. Watch Tucker Carlson and Breitbart drive the narrative for a day or two and they’ll have to do something to get back in. That Charles Blow tweet is bizarre and shows desperation.

DanMan on October 4, 2012 at 5:06 PM

I don’t see a town hall format being any better for little Bammy. The same themes will be touched on as last night’s debate and Obama will get his head caved in all over again.

eyedoc on October 4, 2012 at 4:59 PM

It prevents him from being too aggressive. The last thing he wants is to come off as angry or petulant when speaking directly to voters at the townhall.

Doughboy on October 4, 2012 at 5:07 PM

The definitive evidence that Romney’s debate performance was historical: Taiwanese Cartoonist rendition of the event:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iNhUI8ktHuw

Mutnodjmet on October 4, 2012 at 5:07 PM

so let me get the left straight, Obama lost on purpose to gin up base support? Good grief these people need medication!

rob verdi on October 4, 2012 at 4:51 PM
How in the world is that even supposed to work?

Bitter Clinger on October 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Obama bruised the heck out of Romney’s knuckles. With his chin.

iurockhead on October 4, 2012 at 5:08 PM

livefreerdie on October 4, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Clever one, on yer nom!!!

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Oops. You aren’t the troll I am looking for.

NotCoach on October 4, 2012 at 5:08 PM

The important thing is that the Romney team has it’s “no applause” clause in effect for the town hall. Obama thrives on adulation, and loses focus when there’s silence after he speaks.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM

hey e’erbody, we got a live one here!!! he sounds defeated though. c’mon gumbo, represent!

DanMan on October 4, 2012 at 5:08 PM

The important thing is that the Romney team has it’s “no applause” clause in effect for the town hall. Obama thrives on adulation, and loses focus when there’s silence after he speaks.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Actually, I think the important thing to remember is that Joe Biden was chosen as running mate because he brought gravitas to the ticket.

Now we know why.

If you can’t concentrate when crowds are not cheering your every utterance, perhaps you need to take up WWE announcing or somesuch thing.

Lily on October 4, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Next one will be bigger. People love to see horrible things as they unfold. Hearing how badly Obama was beaten, that is going to bring in the Rubber necking crowd, the watches car races just in case there is a crash crowd… Good times, good times.

I really cannot see Obama winning the diplomacy and war debate!

astonerii on October 4, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Oafs at Yahoo

Obama’s next hurdle: Friday’s jobless report

After a subpar debate performance against a sharp Romney, Obama suddenly seems vulnerable to any bad news.

Romney shifts to center as his confidence grows

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Yup , In theory you can practice for it , but a live Newt is a different thing.

the_nile on October 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Especially when your practice partner is Lurch.

Bitter Clinger on October 4, 2012 at 5:12 PM

And Juhiny Williams who’s on The Five at FOX right now (no Beckel, wonder why?) still claims that Obama won and says that opinion makes him an outlier. I’d say he’s more like an outright liar.

BTW, Gallup is selecting the voter participants who will ask the questions in Prez Debates, Part Deux, Townhall version.

stukinIL4now on October 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM

Romney shifts to center as his confidence grows

and just this morning they were saying Romney was going to turn off independents by being so aggresive

DanMan on October 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM

This first debate has set the narrative and it will be very difficult for Obama to turn things around.

tkyang99 on October 4, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Agreed…

… “First time.”, “First love.”, “First impressions.”

You never forget…

Seven Percent Solution on October 4, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Can’t wait to see which new persona O rolls out 12 days from now to overcompensate for last night’s deficiencies.

Hopefully, he’ll take the advice of the genius pundits/fan-boys at MSNBC and go full-throttle angry black man.

Turn on that ‘hood accent, brotha, and tell the peeps some hard troofs about how raaaaacist Amerikkka still ain’t givin’ up ’nuff dollahs to make up for all of whitey’s past sins.

That will make those undecided voters warm up to you, Barry. Honest. ;)

AZCoyote on October 4, 2012 at 5:19 PM

I read that Barack said that “wasn’t the real Mitt Romney” last night. I think it was Yahoo!/AP headline.

SouthernGent on October 4, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Bernard McGuirk from Imus in the morning had the best line with regards to MSNBC’s reaction:

Chris Matthews looked like instead of having a tingle up his leg he dropped a load in his pants.

Or something like that.

MississippiMom on October 4, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Mitt seems to have done very well with that focus group, but the entire back row was men. It would have been more interesting with a focus group with equal numbers of men and women, since most of the polls show Romney ahead among male voters but Obama ahead among female voters.

Steve Z on October 4, 2012 at 5:20 PM

Obama will do much better next debate as its a town hall and no follow-up questions are asked or rebuttal. Mitt will get asked about 47%, abortion, tax returns, and gay marriage. He will have reasonable good answers BUT will be playing defense so he just might lose

mrscullen on October 4, 2012 at 5:20 PM

I just heard the excuse was Obama had trouble with the altitude because he did such a good job lowering the sea levels.

You thought the polls have been skewed? Just wait…

HellCat on October 4, 2012 at 5:21 PM

BTW, Gallup is selecting the voter participants who will ask the questions in Prez Debates, Part Deux, Townhall version.

stukinIL4now on October 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM

Just as Holder’s DOJ sues Gallup. Hmmm.

What could go wrong?

Bitter Clinger on October 4, 2012 at 5:22 PM

In his own way last night, Mitt bypassed the MSM, and spoke straight to Americans.

And, the result was glorious. Today has been a fun day.

kingsjester on October 4, 2012 at 5:22 PM

Next one will be bigger. People love to see horrible things as they unfold. Hearing how badly Obama was beaten, that is going to bring in the Rubber necking crowd, the watches car races just in case there is a crash crowd… Good times, good times.

I really cannot see Obama winning the diplomacy and war debate!

astonerii on October 4, 2012 at 5:11 PM

And how could he…Benghazi, baby…

jimver on October 4, 2012 at 5:22 PM

All Mitt has to say, is:

“And, you blamed it all on a video?”

kingsjester on October 4, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Hopefully, he’ll take the advice of the genius pundits/fan-boys at MSNBC and go full-throttle angry black man.

Turn on that ‘hood accent, brotha, and tell the peeps some hard troofs about how raaaaacist Amerikkka still ain’t givin’ up ’nuff dollahs to make up for all of whitey’s past sins.

That will make those undecided voters warm up to you, Barry. Honest. ;)

AZCoyote on October 4, 2012 at 5:19 PM

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

I can totally see it

NapaConservative on October 4, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Obama was wrong on this too. He said to his ‘sweetie’ that “40 million” will watch. He was right in one regards, that they won’t celebrate next year’s anniv. with this many viewers. They’ll be in Hawaii.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Sweet! Yep, it’ll be shaved ice and poi all around instead of taxpayer-funded wagu beef, arugula and White House-farmed sweet potato fries. I wish I could be a fly on the wall during that anniversary dinner. Michelle: (glares). Obama (smirks). Good times!

pianomomma on October 4, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Some people suggest that Obama is luring Romney like the Russians lured Napoleon, getting him in too deep and out of his element. Maybe…

no, no ! please , don’t let biden see this, he will set DC on fire

runner on October 4, 2012 at 5:25 PM

If I may paraphrase a comment from friend of mine posted on FB, “Obama looked like a little ball in a Mitt”.

fistbump on October 4, 2012 at 5:25 PM

How the heck did that link???????

NapaConservative on October 4, 2012 at 5:26 PM

I don’t see a town hall format being any better for little Bammy. The same themes will be touched on as last night’s debate and Obama will get his head caved in all over again.

eyedoc on October 4, 2012 at 4:59 PM

It prevents him from being too aggressive. The last thing he wants is to come off as angry or petulant when speaking directly to voters at the townhall.

Doughboy on October 4, 2012 at 5:07 PM

On the other hand, the liberal media like the townhall format because it gives them the opportunity to ‘ask’ nutball questions without taking responsibility for them.

slickwillie2001 on October 4, 2012 at 5:26 PM

I guess some things in life are just so blindingly obvious that even a Kool Aid drinker must admit the truth.

NotCoach on October 4, 2012 at 5:04 PM

(I don’t think that is who you think that is.)

I think the same thing about this election as I thought about Walker in WI. People were not out screaming support for Walker, but I remember people who were there on election day saying there were long lines of people looking grim but determined. Obama has got to go, and the only way to do that is to vote. Union workers can’t say anything, white people are afraid of being called racist, but on election day I think we will see something amazing.

Night Owl on October 4, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Juan Williams has gone completely off his rocker….he thinks obama won the debate :)…goodness, what is it with the medicine cabinets so out of reach today…

jimver on October 4, 2012 at 5:26 PM

AZCoyote on October 4, 2012 at 5:19 PM

I meant to link this

NapaConservative on October 4, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Juan Williams has gone completely off his rocker….he thinks obama won the debate :)…goodness, what is it with the medicine cabinets so out of reach today…

jimver on October 4, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Juan is a reliable stooge for the demorats. Barky could beat someone to death onstage with a 2×4 and Juan would praise the strength of Barky’s arm.

Bishop on October 4, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Great stuff AP.

jjraines on October 4, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Wouldn’t it be amazing if a random voter in the next debate asked Obama, “Mr. President, I’d like to know why you thought it was OK to go off to Vegas for a fundraiser when our consulate in Libya was a smoking ruin and four Americans were dead. If I tried something like that in my job after a major setback I would be fired.”

rockmom on October 4, 2012 at 5:33 PM

I think the same thing about this election as I thought about Walker in WI. People were not out screaming support for Walker, but I remember people who were there on election day saying there were long lines of people looking grim but determined. Obama has got to go, and the only way to do that is to vote. Union workers can’t say anything, white people are afraid of being called racist, but on election day I think we will see something amazing.

Night Owl on October 4, 2012 at 5:26 PM

The preference cascade has begun.

Lily on October 4, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Can’t wait to see which new persona O rolls out 12 days from now to overcompensate for last night’s deficiencies.

The lying, pandering POS….

or the lying, pandering POS with the fake negr0 dialect from the 2007 video?

Those are really the only two choices.

UltimateBob on October 4, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Some people suggest that Obama is luring Romney like the Russians lured Napoleon, getting him in too deep and out of his element. Maybe…

More like he’s the Germans luring the Russians into Stalingrad.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on October 4, 2012 at 5:34 PM

I read that Barack said that “wasn’t the real Mitt Romney” last night. I think it was Yahoo!/AP headline.

SouthernGent on October 4, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Yes, that’s the new message today. That guy you saw take me apart last night was just faking it.

rockmom on October 4, 2012 at 5:35 PM

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