58 million viewers: Debate ratings top first debate from 2008; Update: Revised upwards to 67.2 million; Update: 70 million?

posted at 4:41 pm on October 4, 2012 by Allahpundit

The last time a beating this brutal drew a wider audience was Ali-Foreman, I believe.

More than 58 million people watched the first Presidential debate last night between President Obama and Mitt Romney, up substantially from the first debate in the 2008 election cycle, which had 52.4 million viewers.

Fox News was the most-watched cable news network during the debate, and will likely be the most-watched network on TV, though final broadcast numbers will not be released until after 4 PM.

The second Obama/McCain debate in 2008 drew 63.2 million but those ratings were goosed by off-the-charts public interest in Palin’s VP debate held five days earlier. Ryan/Biden won’t build the same degree of curiosity for Romney/Obama II, but the fact that Romney destroyed The One yesterday might. Casual voters who passed on last night’s show will see the headlines today and wonder if Romney can do it again; pair that with the fact that the next debate is a townhall format, which adds a bit of unpredictability, and you might see huge ratings on October 16. Then again, the first debate is usually (but not always) the highest-rated of the three, probably because of the novelty of seeing the combatants finally together on stage and dueling. That being so, if there’s any debate to which you want to bring your A-game, it’s the first — which is why desperate rationalizations like this are even dumber and lamer than they appear:

I promised you the Luntz focus-group video in last night’s thread but it wasn’t posted until late, so here it is at last. (MSNBC’s focus group also agreed that Romney won.) Can’t wait to see which new persona O rolls out 12 days from now to overcompensate for last night’s deficiencies. If you disliked him as the passive, lethargic incumbent forced to defend a failed presidency, you’ll loathe the angry, table-pounding class warrior who wants to know Mitt Romney’s annual effective tax rates since 1970 and wants to know them now, mister.


Update: I take it back. I should have said that a beating this brutal hasn’t been seen by so many people since Frazier-Ali I:

I forgot how dramatically the ratings can inflate after the preliminary assessments. With the new numbers, it turns out Romney/Obama drew nearly as many viewers as the Palin/Biden VP blowout in 2008. Bad, bad, bad timing for The One to perform so terribly.

Update: A fair point by the NYT:


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“That’s still a heckova lot of people out of work. I’d round that to EIGHT and so would most people (not the media, the Obama faithful and mobys.)

Fallon on October 4, 2012 at 8:28 PM

Its just that some like Hannity have kept pushing that line about the rate being over 8. Sometimes he talks too much.

Robb on October 4, 2012 at 8:38 PM”

Yep, 7.9 is a TKO for Obama. All the talk from Romney and the GOP is about being over 8 percent. A lot hinges on the jobs report! Going to be a fun morning, I think.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 8:42 PM

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Hey pin head it’s too late for your guy your still above George bush senior number and Reagan in the second term. Your guy is toast

Conservative4ev on October 4, 2012 at 8:45 PM

if we’re using the Ali-Foreman analogy, I guess Mitt would be the “thrilla in vanilla”.

TxAnn56 on October 4, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Uh they have no choice after that debate to try to fudge the UE number it’s his only hope to have a shot again.

Conservative4ev on October 4, 2012 at 8:47 PM

48% Know Someone Who’s Quit Looking for Work in Bad Job Market
Right Direction or Wrong Track 37% Say U.S. Heading in Right Direction
23% Believe Today’s Children Will Be Better Off Than Their Parents

66% Say The United States Is In A Recession

Conservative4ev on October 4, 2012 at 8:57 PM

Over 70 million viewers? Pshaw! This is government related so we need to round it up to an even 100 million, cause that’s how numbers work, right? We’ll just pretend there’s a $ sign.

Obama picked a very bad week to give up smoking, drinking, sniffing glue debate prep.

CitizenEgg on October 4, 2012 at 8:58 PM

This azz has the most perfect name in all the world.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 4:49 PM

And, not surprisingly, he writes for the conservative New York Times

And his writing fits him, except it sucks.He’s an angry black man.

DevilsPrinciple on October 4, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Romney shot past acceptable and is gaining on essential.

mike_NC9 on October 4, 2012 at 9:01 PM

We were having a party at my Richmond synagogue last night, and it was a total bust. Nobody showed and those who showed left early. People were talking about how we could have done better with the publicity and I told them everyone went home to watch Obama get his tush handed to him. This is a very conservative shul–Cantor country. I can’t prove it, but I bet these debate numbers would show a big GOP viewer share–AND I further think it’s a harbinger of the off hook anti-Obama turnout to come.

smellthecoffee on October 4, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Robb on October 4, 2012 at 8:12 PM

So??..What happens if it gets adjusted up a week later..:)

Dire Straits on October 4, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Obama was wrong on this too. He said to his ‘sweetie’ that “40 million” will watch. He was right in one regards, that they won’t celebrate next year’s anniv. with this many viewers. They’ll be in Hawaii.

Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Heh. Just watched Newt Gingrich on EWTN The World Over. When asked about the ‘Sweetie’ talk from Obama referring to spending his special day in debate instead of with his wife, Newt said the question is, if the day was a big deal, why did Obama agree to debate that day? He could have chose any day. Bet Obie practiced his love dove remarks.

IMHO it didnt go past Romney either. Romney’s clever remark about Obama having to spend his special day with Romney instead of sweetie, stole Obama’s thunder, getting laughs. By Romney’s smile, I guess he was ahead of Obama

Sometimes when I watch Romney, he has the look of an old horse trader. This is good. Takes a horse trader to size up a horse

entagor on October 4, 2012 at 9:17 PM

I see the fake conservative known as gumby has arrived. What a liar he is.

wargamer6 on October 4, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Comments from my co-workers:

“I didn’t watch that ***hole Obama and that other douche-bag; what is his name?”

“Thank god for the game channel. I don’t know what’s going on, and I don’t want to know.”

davidk on October 4, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Sometimes when I watch Romney, he has the look of an old horse trader. This is good. Takes a horse trader to size up a horse an ass.

entagor on October 4, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Redaction.

davidk on October 4, 2012 at 9:22 PM

This azz has the most perfect name in all the world.
Schadenfreude on October 4, 2012 at 4:49 PM

He’s like a human vacuum cleaner–he sucks and blows at the same time. Charles “the Hoover” Blow.
Gotta love that “maybe” he throws in there, all pregnant-pause like. Yeah, Charles, maybe. Maybe monkeys will fly out of your azz, too. Don’t hold your breaf, bro.

smellthecoffee on October 4, 2012 at 9:22 PM

PublicPolicyPolling ‏@ppppolls
Virginia voters with an opinion on who won the debate say Romney by more than a 3:1 margin on the first night of our poll

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 9:31 PM

I watched it on CSPAN and they only show a few different angles. Basically, straight at each of the candidates and the moderator. I then see replays of fox news and WOAH!!!, Romney is talking straight at Obama and telling him how he’s failed. CSPAN viewers did not see this angle. They did not see Romney and Obama in the same shot.

MrX on October 4, 2012 at 9:33 PM

My fear about the Ryan/Biden debate is that no matter how nice Ryan is to Biden it will seem like the smart bully picking on the mentally challenged kid. Biden has this weird kind of Teflon, no matter how stupid his comment is everyone just feels “well that’s just Joe”.

IowaWoman on October 4, 2012 at 7:51 PM

Mostly, Biden just has a habit of making up whatever “facts” he thinks support his argument, and saying them without appearing to lie.

Count to 10 on October 4, 2012 at 7:59 PM

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davidk on October 4, 2012 at 9:35 PM

http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/voting/cb09-110.html

The overall voting age (18 and older) citizen population in the United States in 2008 was 206 million compared with 197 million in 2004. Of that total, 146 million, or 71 percent, reported being registered to vote. That’s slightly lower than the 72 percent who reported being registered to vote in the 2004 presidential election, but does represent an increase of approximately 4 million registered voters. The percentage of those registered to vote that actually did so was slightly higher in the 2008 election (90 percent) than in 2004 (89 percent).

So if the audience share was between 72-75 Million…

…with current 18+population level at 237Mil…

…and 132M – 55% – total showed in 2008…

…at 70% 165Mil should be registered in 2012…

…which brings you to 45% – 74Mil – who watched the debate.

Which, one could argue, is almost everyone who will vote in 2012.

All things equal, the race could be ovah for Barry.

budfox on October 4, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Is it worth it to protect him?
the_nile on October 4, 2012 at 4:59 PM

They don’t have a choice.

The MSM sold their souls, and took out a second mortgage to get that worthless commie dog-eater over the finish line.

If he falls, they fall with him.

(If I was given the power to write President Romney’s remarks, and his jokes, his first White House Correspondence Dinner, I’d have most of those filthy toads squirming in their chairs… except for the ones who’d walked out during his opening remarks…)

CPT. Charles on October 4, 2012 at 9:36 PM

I watched it on CSPAN and they only show a few different angles. Basically, straight at each of the candidates and the moderator. I then see replays of fox news and WOAH!!!, Romney is talking straight at Obama and telling him how he’s failed. CSPAN viewers did not see this angle. They did not see Romney and Obama in the same shot.

MrX on October 4, 2012 at 9:33 PM

I noticed that, too. Romney took it to him.

Obama looked like a schoolboy getting schooled.

davidk on October 4, 2012 at 9:37 PM

When it rains it pours, Obama!

Acid rain!

Oh yeeaaah!

Step into that slim jim, buddy!

Sherman1864 on October 4, 2012 at 9:37 PM

Yep, 7.9 is a TKO for Obama. All the talk from Romney and the GOP is about being over 8 percent. A lot hinges on the jobs report! Going to be a fun morning, I think.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 8:42 PM

This isn’t really news to most of us, but you are just an idiot. With the substandard, anemic, below-water job creation we have been experiencing FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS, the only way the unemployment rate could get to 7.9 would be if an additional 350,000 people stopped looking for work. Yeah, that’s a real TKO for your incompetent, clueless nitwit of a president, at least in your tiny mind.

You are clearly too stupid to understand this, but anything below 150,000 new jobs doesn’t even keep up with population growth, much less reduce the unemployment rate. Every “improvement” in the unemployment number this year has been either the result of an inappropriate seasonal adjustment applied by the BLS to counteract actual job losses, or the result of millions of people giving up on looking for work, or both.

Your pathetically eager anticipation of a jobs report that can only show what you want if 350,000 people quit looking for work says that you are as callous and insensitive as you are clueless, delusional and innumerate.

HTL on October 4, 2012 at 9:45 PM

Which, one could argue, is almost everyone who will vote in 2012.

All things equal, the race could be ovah for Barry.

budfox on October 4, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Not a chance. The only ones really fired up by this are the ones like the Romneyites here who are going to crawl over broken glass to vote for Mitt anyway. Polls in the coming week will be essentially unchanged, even Ras, who has Obama up by 2 today.

ddrintn on October 4, 2012 at 9:46 PM

My bad. Distraction slip. Should read -

60% of all 2012 voters watched the debate

budfox on October 4, 2012 at 9:46 PM

You are clearly too stupid to understand this, but anything below 150,000 new jobs doesn’t even keep up with population growth, much less reduce the unemployment rate.

HTL on October 4, 2012 at 9:45 PM

Maybe you’re too stupid to understand that all of that doesn’t really matter, politically speaking, if Romney’s still trailing going into November.

ddrintn on October 4, 2012 at 9:48 PM

“Your pathetically eager anticipation of a jobs report that can only show what you want if 350,000 people quit looking for work says that you are as callous and insensitive as you are clueless, delusional and innumerate.”

Nice diatribe, but the simple fact remains that for the average voter, a decline in the unemployment rate is good news, and if the jobs added number is over 100,000, it will play very well for Obama.

As always, I deal in what IS and not what SHOULD BE.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 9:50 PM

As always, I deal in what IS and not what SHOULD BE.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Well, true. Given current conditions, Romney should be winning this going away, without all the whining over poll samples. He isn’t. That’s reality.

ddrintn on October 4, 2012 at 9:52 PM

ddrintn on October 4, 2012 at 9:52 PM

The loser little b*tch is back I see. Still no life. You’re such the loser….I knew Romney’s great performance last night would bring out the cockroaches.

CW on October 4, 2012 at 9:56 PM

The loser little b*tch is back I see. Still no life. You’re such the loser….I knew Romney’s great performance last night would bring out the cockroaches.

CW on October 4, 2012 at 9:56 PM

Those ‘bots are soooooo classy. Cockroaches. Huh.

I don’t think Romney’s performance was that great. I don’t recall anything memorable he said. Romney looked good because Obama stunk.

ddrintn on October 4, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Pic of the Day: ‘Bama’s Got A Squeezebox

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/10/pic-of-day-bamas-got-squeezebox.html

M2RB: The Who

Resist We Much on October 4, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Obama will do much better next debate as its a town hall and no follow-up questions are asked or rebuttal. Mitt will get asked about 47%, abortion, tax returns, and gay marriage. He will have reasonable good answers BUT will be playing defense so he just might lose

mrscullen on October 4, 2012 at 5:20 PM

You’re wrong.

If Obozo, and the DMM succeed in stacking the questions in favor of Dear Leader, and packing the hall with o-zombies, they constitute a minority in terms of the average American.

A forthright Romney, tackling the fever-swamp questions, and speaking to the people on the other side of the TV cameras (screw the O-bots), will carry the debate… the people in fly-over country want to hear an American, speaking up for America, and it’s values.

Not everyone in that audience will be hissing at him.

The true target is outside that ‘townhall’. Let Obozo play up to his slaves and worshipers… they’re not the voters who will carry him over the finish line.

CPT. Charles on October 4, 2012 at 9:58 PM

A forthright Romney, tackling the fever-swamp questions, and speaking to the people on the other side of the TV cameras (screw the O-bots), will carry the debate… the people in fly-over country want to hear an American, speaking up for America, and it’s values.

CPT. Charles on October 4, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Oh, come on. These debates usually have a negligible effect anyway, barring some major gaffe. This sounds like wish-fulfillment: Romney does well in a debate and he’ll gain 10 points in the polls (which are fake anyway, right?) and win in a 1980-style landslide next month. It won’t happen that way.

ddrintn on October 4, 2012 at 10:05 PM

What happens if unemployment goes down to 7.9 tomm?

CNBC says the official unemployment rate will go up to 8.2% tomorrow. 113,000 new jobs added to the economy in September.

MidniteRambler on October 4, 2012 at 10:05 PM

I’d post the link to CNBC, but the commenting system does not like links tonight.

MidniteRambler on October 4, 2012 at 10:07 PM

I’d post the link to CNBC, but the commenting system does not like links tonight.

MidniteRambler on October 4, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Got it. Thanks

Robb on October 4, 2012 at 10:11 PM

I used to agree with Limbaugh that the Establishment obsession with the “undecideds” was absurd and overwrought. Now I’m beginning to wonder – in light of a recent poll that established solid support for Romney at 43% and Obama at 42% – if the Country Clubbers weren’t correct after all.

Let’s face it: this nation is more solidly and deeply divided than it was during the Civil War and there isn’t much this side of a direct revelation from Heaven that will alter the breadth and depth of this division – all of which means that the fate of this republic hangs in a balance clutched in the hands of 15% of the electorate.

The question du jour is and can only be: Did Mitt Romney connect with a majority of the “undecideds?”

If the answer is yes, and if the percentage is sufficient to overcome what will be the most extraordinary exercise in vote fraud ever exercised in the history of this republic, then Mr. Romney will prevail on November 6.

If the answer is no, then I strongly recommend you prepare for war.

ManlyRash on October 4, 2012 at 10:15 PM

As always, I deal in what IS and not what SHOULD BE.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Well, true. Given current conditions, Romney should be winning this going away, without all the whining over poll samples. He isn’t. That’s reality.

ddrintn on October 4, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Eww, it’s gross when sockpuppets have sex with each other!

CitizenEgg on October 4, 2012 at 10:16 PM

even Ras, who has Obama up by 2 today.

ddrintn on October 4, 2012 at 9:46 PM

You obviously missed Rass on TV about 2 hours ago saying results from AFTER DEBATE polls will come out on Sunday morning.

At least try to keep up with the rest of us.

Quit your libertarian BS already. Herr Doktor should be releasing his next racist, anti-semitic newsletter in a few days, hopefully it will keep you occupied for a while.

riddick on October 4, 2012 at 10:21 PM

ddrintn on October 4, 2012 at 10:05 PM

So, bright boy… tell us how last nite didn’t matter a jot.

Or, how America swooned at the calm brilliance of Dear Leader… if that’s an easier task for you.

CPT. Charles on October 4, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Romney looked good because Obama stunk.

ddrintn on October 4, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Alright. And that’s bad for us…how?

Dirt McGirt on October 4, 2012 at 10:23 PM

ddrintn on October 4, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Paulbots…they remind me of mynocks. Always chewing on the power cables.

ManlyRash on October 4, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Alright. And that’s bad for us…how?

Dirt McGirt

It’s not, it’s bad for dumb&dumberintn. He’s pulling for Obama.

xblade on October 4, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Paulbots…they remind me of mynocks. Always chewing on the power cables.

ManlyRash on October 4, 2012 at 10:26 PM

I thought mynocks were the creatures in the old time machine movie

Conservative4ev on October 4, 2012 at 10:29 PM

2010 election can’t get here quick enough.

LtGenRob on October 4, 2012 at 10:30 PM

As always, I deal in what IS and not what SHOULD BE.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 9:50 PM

And as always, you completely miss the point. You are drooling in anticipation of a jobs report that would, if it comes out as you predict, represent the complete demoralization and marginalization of an additional 350,000 American workers.

I didn’t say one damned thing about the election. I just pointed out what a creepy, callous cretin you are.

HTL on October 4, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Romney needed to connect with conservatives who have been holding back and don’t want to vote for another RINO. That is who watched last night and that is who Romney won.

Jvette on October 4, 2012 at 10:33 PM

If the answer is no, then I strongly recommend you prepare for war.

ManlyRash on October 4, 2012 at 10:15 PM

I fear you are correct.

And I’m already prepared.

davidk on October 4, 2012 at 10:34 PM

CNBC says the official unemployment rate will go up to 8.2% tomorrow. 113,000 new jobs added to the economy in September.

thats the reuters survey.

it is not the official jobs report.

gerrym51 on October 4, 2012 at 10:35 PM

I thought mynocks were the creatures in the old time machine movie

Conservative4ev on October 4, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Heh. No…the creatures to which you refer are Morlocks, who prey upon the Eloi in much the same fashion the Democrat Party preys upon minorities and those who are too ignorant or stupid to realize the true nature of the predators.

ManlyRash on October 4, 2012 at 10:35 PM

As always, I deal in what IS and not what SHOULD BE.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 9:50 PM

No, you don’t.

I sent you to Shadow Stats several times earlier today.

Here’s the info again.

http://www.shadowstats.com/

August Unemployment: 8.1% (U.3), 14.7% (U.6), 22.8% (ShadowStats.com)

Have you ever wondered why the CPI, GDP and employment numbers run counter to your personal and business experiences? The problem lies in biased and often-manipulated government reporting.

Primers on Government Economic Reports What you’ve suspected but were afraid to ask. The story behind unemployment, the Federal Deficit, CPI, GDP.

INC on October 4, 2012 at 10:57 PM

I thought mynocks were the creatures in the old time machine movie

Conservative4ev on October 4, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Heh. No…the creatures to which you refer are Morlocks, who prey upon the Eloi in much the same fashion the Democrat Party preys upon minorities and those who are too ignorant or stupid to realize the true nature of the predators.

ManlyRash on October 4, 2012 at 10:35 PM

That’s f’n awesome hahaha

Conservative4ev on October 4, 2012 at 10:58 PM

ManlyRash on October 4, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Good to see you back on these pages, Manly. Even though your efforts in ’08 were doomed, they made that dark period easier to bear. It’s also a pleasure to see a man who stands on his word.

smellthecoffee on October 4, 2012 at 11:04 PM

If I was given the power to write President Romney’s remarks, and his jokes, his first White House Correspondence Dinner, I’d have most of those filthy toads squirming in their chairs… except for the ones who’d walked out during his opening remarks…) who were lucky enough to get a part time job waiting tables for the event.

CPT. Charles on October 4, 2012 at 9:36 PM


FIFY

PolAgnostic on October 4, 2012 at 11:24 PM

I thought mynocks were the creatures in the old time machine movie

Conservative4ev on October 4, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Holy smokes! That’s one of my all time favorite movies!

Actually it’s the Morlock’s he was fighting against.

Same thing though, no brain, follow dear leader, etc…

ccrosby on October 4, 2012 at 11:34 PM

These ratings are Obama’s worst nightmare. You can’t run an ad to catch this amount of viewers. The point is that, this is a debate that everyone feels Romney won, that would be fine if 20 million people watched it. 70 million people???? Wow, that’s going to be hard to overcome. How many of those 70 milliion made up their mind last night and won’t return for debate #2? We won’t know, but we do know this was not good for the President.

bflat879 on October 4, 2012 at 11:41 PM

FYI, we’re saying the debate “reached more than 70 million” to account for Web streams and out-of-home TV viewers. nyti.ms/PBJOgB

It was also on Sirius.

HellCat on October 4, 2012 at 11:54 PM

Trouble in Illinois…cross posting from the Obama “strategy” post…

How about this poll from We Ask America, taken in the Illinois 10th Congressional District. From Breitbart.com (emphasis mine):

A new poll of Illinois’ 10th Congressional District, which includes parts of Cook County, however, suggests the August poll might not be such an aberration. The poll, from WeAskAmerica, finds Obama with just a 2 point lead over Romney, 47-45 in the suburban district. Obama won the district in 2008 by 23 points.

I’ve been hearing things like this from all over the state. In my own area, I haven’t seen any Obama/Biden signs or bumper stickers when in 2008 they were all over the place.

If Illinois is close on election night = blowout in the rest of the country.

Link to the full article.

italianguy626 on October 5, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Nah, not Ali – Foreman or Ali – Frazier.

Actually, first thing I thought of was Foreman – Frazier & Howard Cosell’s call:

Down goes Frazier!
Down goes Frazier!
Down goes Frazier!

They should’ve stopped this one early too.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on October 5, 2012 at 12:34 AM

I’ve been hearing things like this from all over the state. In my own area, I haven’t seen any Obama/Biden signs or bumper stickers when in 2008 they were all over the place.

If Illinois is close on election night = blowout in the rest of the country.

Link to the full article.

italianguy626 on October 5, 2012 at 12:22 AM

I believe Obamuh could lose IL. In 2010, 99 of 102 counties voted red and Kirk got enough votes outside of Cook Cty to win the senate seat, while Quinn eeked out the gov win bcuz of Cook Cty. And 11 of the 18 Cong districts went red, with 6 of the 7 blue ones in Cook Cty, the other in so IL by St. Louis. So if red turnout is high we could defeat the messiah and that would really mean a blowout.

stukinIL4now on October 5, 2012 at 1:28 AM

And so the number of people who watched the shooting star plummet to earth goes higher and higher. Bad news for the Big O.

COgirl on October 5, 2012 at 1:53 AM

“Your pathetically eager anticipation of a jobs report that can only show what you want if 350,000 people quit looking for work says that you are as callous and insensitive as you are clueless, delusional and innumerate.”

Nice diatribe, but the simple fact remains that for the average voter, a decline in the unemployment rate is good news, and if the jobs added number is over 100,000, it will play very well for Obama.

As always, I deal in what IS and not what SHOULD BE.

gumbyandpokey on October 4, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Typical liberal Marxist…the idiots that will vote for us are too stupid to know we are losing hundreds of thousands of people from the workforce every month and that is why the unemployment number is going down, not because we are actually creating jobs…all they really want is a phone…
That’s great thinking, except those numbers are actually REAL PEOPLE OUT OF WORK and they vote…
Ass-Clown Party…

Strike Hornet on October 5, 2012 at 2:39 AM

A Canadian viewer here in Alberta – it was nice to see Romney take the Owe to the woodshed. Goodness knows, the CBC up here reported that 79% of their viewers believed Obama won the debate…well, this is the CBC, after all…

So, where can I get a Romney/Ryan sticker to put on my car bumper?

It’ll be fun watching the heads of the lefties up here go “BOOM”.

Karthanon on October 5, 2012 at 4:34 AM

I don’t think Romney’s performance was that great. I don’t recall anything memorable he said. Romney looked good because Obama stunk.

ddrintn on October 4, 2012 at 9:58 PM

My gosh, did you have to leave yourself so open? Stay away from debating classes and that’s what happens.

Don L on October 5, 2012 at 4:43 AM

http://washingtonexaminer.com/ohio-shocker-gop-closes-early-voting-gap-boosting-romney/article/2509838#.UG4tlBj2FNi

Poor trolls. Tell Gumbo and Pokemon to go back to playing Hello Kitty Island Adventure on his mom’s computer!

anchorman on October 5, 2012 at 5:35 AM

Fox News was the most-watched cable news network during the debate, and will likely be the most-watched network on TV, though final broadcast numbers will not be released until after 4 PM.

How does FNC do it? As anyone left of “moderate” what they think about FNC and you’ll get a five-minute “Faux News” rant. Yet, they always crush the competition on these big news events. It could be that the right congregates on the same channel or it could be that some of those FNC haters secretly watch.

Happy Nomad on October 5, 2012 at 7:03 AM

or it could be that some of those FNC haters secretly watch.

Happy Nomad on October 5, 2012 at 7:03 AM

go with door #2 monty

cmsinaz on October 5, 2012 at 7:30 AM

How does FNC do it? As anyone left of “moderate” what they think about FNC and you’ll get a five-minute “Faux News” rant. Yet, they always crush the competition on these big news events. It could be that the right congregates on the same channel or it could be that some of those FNC haters secretly watch.

Happy Nomad on October 5, 2012 at 7:03 AM

Anyone left of “moderate” has a lot of choices when watching news. Tends to reduce individual numbers.
Anyone “moderate” or right of it has only one choice.
We are forced to consolidate to one source.

It is funny that networks and other cable outlets have a problem understanding this.

Jabberwock on October 5, 2012 at 7:35 AM

PolAgnostic on October 4, 2012 at 11:24 PM

I can live with that version… ;)

CPT. Charles on October 5, 2012 at 7:48 AM

7.8 called it.

txmomof6 on October 5, 2012 at 8:37 AM

So, where can I get a Romney/Ryan sticker to put on my car bumper?

It’ll be fun watching the heads of the lefties up here go “BOOM”.

Karthanon on October 5, 2012 at 4:34 AM

Oh, that would be sweet!

You can get them online at http://store.mittromney.com/ and at CafePress.com and Zazzle.com.

I also notice that http://www.freedomhq.com/ is having a sale on Romney stickers — $0.99 US each for some of the styles.

If any lefties’ heads explode, please pose safari-hunter-style with your foot on the leftie’s neck (be careful not to get exploded leftie head goo on your boots — it stinks to high heaven) and send us a pic! :-)

Mary in LA on October 5, 2012 at 4:14 PM

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