Romney wins; Update: CBS insta-poll shows decisive Romney victory; Update: Romney crushes Obama in CNN insta-poll

posted at 10:44 pm on October 3, 2012 by Allahpundit

I said in the open thread that the media would strain to spin this as an Obama victory, but I assumed that he’d give them something, however small, to work with. He gave them nothing. The Hill’s post-debate headline is “Romney lands punches against subdued Obama in first debate,” but that doesn’t remotely capture it. How bad was it for Team O? Dude:

More reaction from Twitter below. A rare moment of bipartisan consensus for America:






And the coup de grace of an unspinnably terrible night for the left:

Lisa Schiffren of NRO calls Romney’s performance “stellar” and Bill Kristol thinks it might be an inflection point. Next week’s polls should be awfully interesting. Back with more reaction links and some vid when I find a good clip.

Update: Endgame:

Update: A forlorn Bill Maher concedes Romney’s debate win while Kristol follows up by calling it the best performance by a Republican in more than 20 years. Mark Halperin calls it for Romney too, albeit not without a ridiculous bit of grade inflation for O.

Update: Via BuzzFeed, what’s the opposite of a leg tingle?

Update: You don’t need a poll to tell you who won this one, but this is gratifying:

Rachel Maddow claims there was no winner in this debate, which, when you adjust for the curve that MSNBC’s grading Obama on, confirms that this was an utter landslide for the GOP. Back to the drawing board for Team Hopenchange, says Chuck Todd.

Update: Andrew Sullivan, one of The One’s biggest fans, despairs:

Look: you know how much I love the guy, and you know how much of a high information viewer I am, and I can see the logic of some of Obama’s meandering, weak, professorial arguments. But this was a disaster for the president for the key people he needs to reach, and his effete, wonkish lectures may have jolted a lot of independents into giving Romney a second look…

The person with authority on that stage was Romney – offered it by one of the lamest moderators ever, and seized with relish. This was Romney the salesman. And my gut tells me he sold a few voters on a change tonight. It’s beyond depressing. But it’s true.

Update: I knew O did badly, but I didn’t realize he did this badly. No wonder the CNN numbers look like this:


I hear that Frank Luntz’s focus group on Fox was also overwhelmingly pro-Romney but I haven’t seen vid yet. Please e-mail the link if you spot it online.

Update: More hints of a potential gamechanger:

Update: According to Dave Weigel, Romney’s 67 percent in the CNN insta-poll is the highest number they’ve ever recorded after a debate.

Update: Politico’s postgame piece captures the mood: “Massacre! Massacre!”

Romney’s aides and surrogates sprinted into the spin room to offer effusive assessments of their candidate’s performance, and Fox News contributor Juan Williams was caroling “Massacre! Massacre!” to himself as he bounded out of the men’s restroom. Obama’s team didn’t meet the press for a full 10 minutes — and one top Democrat, asked to say the best thing about the president’s performance, said Obama has been “just working to maintain cool and be reassuring” in an email to POLITICO.


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I do not find it credible that Obama lost this debate to this extent without doing it on purpose. Steveangell

BWHAHAHHAHA!

Sweet tears in my coffee this morning!!

Keep drinking the kool-aid pal.

gdonovan on October 4, 2012 at 5:48 AM

The opposite of a tingle up Chris Matthews’ leg appears to be a trickle down Matthews’ leg. I, for one, welcome the trickle down political economy.

Brendon Carr on October 4, 2012 at 5:51 AM

I have wanted to see Obama run out of town on rails not able to take advantage of the lucrative post presidency…after tonight it may happen. Not only that, but he’s probably taken up the smoking habit again last night, and he’s going to have to live with Moochelle. Paybacks are a bitch.

moo on October 4, 2012 at 5:59 AM

on a related note, I went shopping yesterday for Goya canned beans, (a tasty and cheap way to stretch any meal) and the the price has significantly increased, more then your usual inflation. It may sound like a small thing, but it rankled to see a product I use to feed my family become much more expensive before my eyes, that is the Obama economy.

rob verdi on October 4, 2012 at 6:02 AM

Didn’t watch. Can’t STAND that voice. Online chatter told trhe tale. What a drag, Barry. In spite of Lehrer’s best effort. And I understand there was much rending of garments on MSNBC. Beinart assumes the guy ever had a “game.” And Vaniry Fair. Oh my. Will watch VP debate, though. Demolition Derby between a Sherman Tank and a 1968 Corvair.

curved space on October 4, 2012 at 6:09 AM

gdonovan on October 4, 2012 at 5:48 AM

If I understand you correctly, Steveangell is a not a liberal kool-aid drinker. He’s a bit of an eyore, but he’s not bemoaning this because Obama lost.

DrMagnolias on October 4, 2012 at 6:09 AM

Well, that was the equivalent of Bush I looking at his watch…

Best line I heard last night…”Obama better hope an a$$kicking is covered under Obamacare”

BacaDog on October 4, 2012 at 6:13 AM

rob verdi on October 4, 2012 at 6:02 AM

i have a shelf full of goya pinto beans. i got them at walmart.

renalin on October 4, 2012 at 6:16 AM

So much good from last night it is hard to know where to begin.

Just in overview I noticed that Romney was transitioning between topics to keep up with the debate outlines, so that when Lehrer had to go to the next area it had been softened up by Romney ahead of time. Giving Obama the lead position meant a lot in that Romney could get the last word in which shifted Obama from offense to defense at a few points throughout the night. Together this effect was devastating.

On the major plus side Romney put out how an executive deals with problems in government: you lay out a policy and then have to adapt it to the legislative branch and what it is willing to do. This is what an executive DOES – lay out policy which then drives the argument and direction of legislation. You don’t need miniscule, point by point things to do if you give the overall direction and theme of what you want to accomplish. Those were laid out quite well in multiple instances.

Taxes would go down but exemptions would be eliminated meaning that the end marginal rate is a goal and it is a rate with few exemptions to it. This reduces overhead and makes understanding the code easier, not harder. It also is an aim to remove all the loopholes put in by the letter street cronies that the Left used to complain about. In the end more people pay taxes, but the rate is lower so that there is less taken out of the paycheck, meaning more take home pay. This was not lost on me and seems like a good way to start repealing the crony tax system to get to a flatter tax. A good start.

Thematically Romney laid out that all government expenditures must be balanced by asking: ‘Do we want to pay China for this by having them bankroll our deficit spending that our children and grandchildren MUST pay off for us?’ This is killer. If he really and for true means this, then the morality of spending has just been put into play in a big, big way and everyone wanting ‘entitlements’ is now on the defensive having to justify putting future generations in debt for current spending. That is a game changer if pressed home and to the hilt. Putting the spenders in the position of immorality (instead of the cloak of doing good) is killer: put the red letter D for DEBT around their necks and point out how wicked their spending is to future generations and how lacking we are in wanting to do that.

Just so many good points… Mitt Romney did the startling thing of knowing Obamacare AND Dodd-Frank better than Obama, inside and out, which is no mean feat. Dancing through the problems of the legislation and making it sensible was stunning as NO ONE on the Left or Right has done that to-date in such a thorough way going point-by-point. And that point-by-point way of addressing concerns is yet another executive trait, meaning that problems are assessed and prioritized before-hand. Just amazing.

In one night Mitt Romney has demonstrated that he at least gets the fundamentals of the Constitution and Declaration and why they are intertwined and what that means for policy. Giving an overview of the 10th Amendment, while short, means that he has another area to flesh out beyond just block granting stuff to the States. Combined with the morality, or lack thereof, of spending, he has a potent arsenal that can only be utilized if it is backed as POLICY. Not programmatics but that thing that drives programmatics. If done as POLICY then this is the beginning of a sea-change in politics.

His job would not be one of reaching across the aisle, however, as the Tea Party begins to dominate the Republican Party… if 1/3 or more of Congress is held by Tea Party members, then they become the drivers of legislation because of the two parties and the fights become one of the establishment against the Tea Party which is a whole other fight and unlike anything seen for over a century in America. If we put in the hard work, then we will give Romney a very, very hard job to do and require him to live up to what he has laid out for us tonight. It isn’t about an election, but changing the course of the Nation away from its current disastrous path. I do disagree with some programmatics from Romney, yes, but it is up to him to show that he really does understand his policy direction… and if he doesn’t live up to those themes, I will have no problem in 4 years voting for someone else. As of last night, however, it can be said that the direction of not just this race but the entire dialogue of what is moral and just in government has been put into play. Fairness is in the eye of the beholder and that loses out to equality for all and upholding a moral standard and good so that our children will have the chance to prosper without our debt loading them down.

Prepare for weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth from the Left over this as the basis for politics is now changing beneath their feet.

ajacksonian on October 4, 2012 at 6:19 AM

good morning
so how is the morning joe crew looking this am

heh

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 6:20 AM

32% tie?????

wtf????

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 6:21 AM

Moaning Joe and friends are trying to cope, talk it out, and get their bearings back after watching the Messiah turn into a mortal. Meacham and the other hack are fighting back the tears.

Punchenko on October 4, 2012 at 6:24 AM

That CNN poll says it all.

Terrye on October 4, 2012 at 6:28 AM

The folks at MSNBC are just… defeated. They look worse off now than they did when Walker trounced that commie in the Wisconsin recall.

It’s schadenfreude all around, folks. Tune into MSNBC and load up on some sweet, sweet liberal tears. Yummy.

Punchenko on October 4, 2012 at 6:34 AM

I’m overjoyed this morning, with just one caveat: Romney had to use the debate to ask the questions the media should have asked all along.

Grace_is_sufficient on October 4, 2012 at 6:36 AM

I am walking around today, grinning like a mule eating yellow jackets.
My take.

kingsjester on October 4, 2012 at 6:37 AM

lol, even joe looked upset that mitt won…the so called conservative

sourpuss mika….tee hee

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 6:37 AM

So who was throwing and breaking more things in the WH last night? Michelle or Bam?

JellyToast on October 4, 2012 at 6:37 AM

The first ten minutes I was cranky about Lehrer letting Zero talk well over the allotted time until it became obvious the Obama debate strategy was to ignore what Romney had said, and pretty much stick to old speech material hoping no one would notice. Zero talking mostly to Lehrer rather than the audience or Romney exuded increasing desperation. So much I was looking for Zero to blink an SOS to Lehrer the worse things got.

The more Obama talked the more childish disdain oozed through. Lehrer did try to rescue Obama a few times clearly interrupting Romney solely to Zero’s benefit but any desire on Lehrer’s part to bail out Obama soon was sunk by Obama himself.

Rather than addressing the clear, well enunciated points Romney had just made a flustered Obama looks to Jim Lehrer and says: “You may want to change the topic /subject.” Had Lehrer then changed the subject it then would have been obvious, even to nagmatic or brainfree, that Lehrer was in cahoots. Lehrer has been on-air long enough to know not to stick his neck or ego out that far, that obviously, even for The Party.

Once Romney had said “You pick only the losers” and “I’ve been in business for over 25 years and never heard of that… I guess I should fire my accountant” yesterday’s game for Oblamer clearly was lost.

viking01 on October 4, 2012 at 6:38 AM

This one is making the rounds…
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“That wasn’t a debate so much as Mitt Romney just took Obama for a cross country drive strapped to the roof of his car.”

diogenes on October 4, 2012 at 6:39 AM

Punchenko on October 4, 2012 at 6:34 AM

excellent

1 down 3 to go….

can’t get too cocky but dang it this was win

_______________________________
so how many times did they fact check mitt saying he lied about obama’s plan…

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 6:39 AM

kingsjester on October 4, 2012 at 6:37 AM

excellent…your title says it all :)

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 6:41 AM

Obama’s debate team..what a jokE. If they would have grilled him for the past 4 years to prepare for this debate he still would have lost. Why you ask…just a little something called THE TRUTH…it always wins!

justonevictory on October 4, 2012 at 6:42 AM

32% tie?????

wtf????

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 6:21 AM

Rachel Maddow claims there was no winner in this debate, which, when you adjust for the curve that MSNBC’s grading Obama on, confirms that this was an utter landslide for the GOP.

CW on October 4, 2012 at 6:42 AM

America grades this President on a curve.

CW on October 4, 2012 at 6:43 AM

politico being politico

you’re man lost…

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 6:43 AM

That line of having 5 sons and knowing the experience of having something repeated at him trying to make him believe it was true was a killer as it brought Obama up short on doing the exact, same thing. Every time Obama tried to paint Romney’s policies as one thing, he got corrected… over and over and over… until Obama finally stopped trying to repeat it.

Obama had just been called on one of his major playing cards and had it devalued and trumped on the table right before his very eyes.

ajacksonian on October 4, 2012 at 6:44 AM

I was annoyed at first when Lehrer was letting Barry talk so much, and then within a minute try to stop Romney from talking. But then, I think it worked against Obama. He was burying himself. The more he talked the more the angry fool he looked. He was angry. He was saying things that made no sense. Looking like he was making it up as he went a long. It was obvious and unless he declares martial law or something before the next debate, it’s going to get worse.

JellyToast on October 4, 2012 at 6:44 AM

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 6:41 AM
Thank you, ma’am!

kingsjester on October 4, 2012 at 6:44 AM

They’re going pull something,” former Governor Sarah Palin warned after tonight’s debate.

“And the American public, with the media’s help, these lapdogs in the media, kind of going along with what Obama and his people want to do to shake some things up if Mitt Romney continues to do so well.

cuda nails it

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 6:46 AM

JellyToast on October 4, 2012 at 6:37 AM

Mooch probably had an out-of-body experience. She’s going to miss her taxpayer-funded vay-cays.

kingsjester on October 4, 2012 at 6:46 AM

you’re=your

wheres the coffee?

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 6:48 AM

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 6:39 AM

The didn’t “fact check” anything. The consensus this morning on Chris Matthews’ round table was that Obama lost really, really badly. Howard Fineman was in near tears and didn’t say much. Chuck Todd was very sad and chocked. David Plouffe’s eyes were red and watery like he was crying. POLITICO reported that Juan Williams came out of the men’s room saying “Massacre!” Massacre!” to himself. It was awful.

Romney got his moment last night and they know it.

BUT…

We have to donate, volunteer, and vote.

Punchenko on October 4, 2012 at 6:48 AM

This what happens when for 4 years you have never been challenge by the press told constantly how smart you are and allowed to say anything with out facts.Its kind of like the movie the wizard of oz when the curtain is drawn back nothing there but a lot of hot air.

logman1 on October 4, 2012 at 6:49 AM

Obama got his butt kicked up between his shoulder blades. I know that’s devastating for you leftists and liberals but denying reality can lead to serious problems. Obama is much like the Wizard of Oz . . . a weak little man hiding behind a large, intimidating facade.

rplat on October 4, 2012 at 6:49 AM

CW on October 4, 2012 at 6:42 AM

indeed

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 6:49 AM

Saw another good zinger. Whatever Obama learned in Vegas, stayed in Vegas.

Did what happen last night really happen or am I in one of those “Bobby Ewing is still alive and in the shower” dreams?

TxAnn56 on October 4, 2012 at 6:49 AM

Punchenko on October 4, 2012 at 6:48 AM

oh yeah!!!!

nyt claiming that dear leader had the ‘facts’ on his side….

trying to prop him up as usual

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 6:50 AM

It’s a sad day in Obamaville. The Mighty Scooter has struck out.

ROFL.

kingsjester on October 4, 2012 at 6:53 AM

So, in the left’s world, Joe Biden will save the day.

Punchenko on October 4, 2012 at 6:53 AM

ajacksonian on October 4, 2012 at 6:19 AM

excellent summary, couldn’t agree more. Thanks AJ.

hillsoftx on October 4, 2012 at 6:55 AM

the lib journalists are coming out with their knives at mitt this am…just perusing real clear politics and politico…

they are talking to folks who were not going to vote for mitt anyway (the 47%)

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 6:56 AM

DRUDGE – Michael Moore: ‘This is what happens when u pick John Kerry as your debate coach’…

Bwahaha…

petefrt on October 4, 2012 at 6:57 AM

ajacksonian on October 4, 2012 at 6:19 AM

Than you, sir. Always informative reading from you.

Cleombrotus on October 4, 2012 at 6:57 AM

I believe Amazon is confirming Moochelle just ordered the Ronco Testicle Extractor 1000 for her husband, requested over-night shipping..

hillsoftx on October 4, 2012 at 6:57 AM

Chris is right, Obama should watch and learn from MSNBC, that would ensure Obama loses even more…they don’t even understand, 90.5 billion to green energy losers (“you don’t pick winners and losers, you pick losers”) equals 2 million teachers…”Where your money is, so is your heart”…it was not any Obama gaffs, it wasn’t that Obama was off his game…he has no game, it was a street ball players against a pro.

It won’t get any better, because quit frankly, Romney is presidential at a time we need a President, and Obama is just a good ol’ boy, when we needed a good ol’ boy…y’all.

right2bright on October 4, 2012 at 6:57 AM

In MSM land, Joe Biden = Dick Cheney. I kid you not.

Punchenko on October 4, 2012 at 6:58 AM

ajacksonian on October 4, 2012 at 6:19 AM

Well said…as always.

kingsjester on October 4, 2012 at 6:58 AM

So who was throwing and breaking more things in the WH last night? Michelle or Bam?

JellyToast on October 4, 2012 at 6:37 AM

…if JugEars is not panned in front of the camera for a few days by his fans in the media…it maybe because Mooch gave him a black eye! (those toned arms!)

KOOLAID2 on October 4, 2012 at 6:59 AM

In MSM land, Joe Biden = Dick Cheney. I kid you not.

In Hot Air Land.

hillsoftx on October 4, 2012 at 6:59 AM

C’mon, Trolls. Today is gonna be fun.

kingsjester on October 4, 2012 at 6:59 AM

It was obvious and unless he declares martial law or something before the next debate, it’s going to get worse.

JellyToast on October 4, 2012 at 6:44 AM

At one point I thought Mitt was going to say, “I have no idea what you just said, it doesn’t make sense”…Obama was incoherent a couple of times just mumbling out some talking points, and unsure of those.

right2bright on October 4, 2012 at 7:02 AM

This is all great news, and we should all be pleased by how well Romney did.

But just a few notes of caution:

In 2004 W really struggled in his first debate against Kerry — but still won re-election.

In 1984 Reagan’s first debate against Mondale was a disaster, prompting speculation as to his health — and he won in a landslide.

Plus the media will be dying to write the story of the Comeback Kid if President Obama does even slightly better next time.

So Romney needs to win just as decisively in the next debates if he wants to seal this deal.

Chuckles3 on October 4, 2012 at 7:03 AM

Like most others in this thread, I was pleased with Romney’s performance and he deserves all the good that will come from it.

But as a reminder, Romney can just talk his way into the White House. It’s going to take you me and everyone else we can find, drag them off the couches and get time to the polls to vote.

This will be close election because we now have so many people dependent on the government and they are not about to vote themselves into the work force.

Don’t just vote. HELP GET OUT THE VOTE.

BMF on October 4, 2012 at 7:04 AM

Dennis Miller:
Romney keeps this up Øbama’s gonna vote for him
and
Øbama better hope a Kicked @ss is covered under Øbamacare

couple my fav Tweets

hillsoftx on October 4, 2012 at 7:05 AM

I can hear Obama’s speeches now…”I told you it was go’in to be tough, I told you it was go’in be close, but it takes more than a hour of debating to run a country…he threw out facts that couldn’t be checked, that was clever, dishonest but clever, but you have to run a country on facts….blah, blah, blah…”

right2bright on October 4, 2012 at 7:06 AM

petefrt on October 4, 2012 at 6:57 AM

hah

i bet kerry won’t be working with dear leader for the next one….

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 7:06 AM

joe defending dear leader saying no one has talked to him like that in 4 years….

lol

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 7:06 AM

Chuckles3 on October 4, 2012 at 7:03 AM
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It really is OK to spike the ball today.
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:-)

diogenes on October 4, 2012 at 7:07 AM

So Romney needs to win just as decisively in the next debates if he wants to seal this deal.

Chuckles3 on October 4, 2012 at 7:03 AM

no doubt, we can’t get too cocky, there are 3 more to go before this is all over

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 7:07 AM

Someone had thier lunch money swiped.

nimrod on October 4, 2012 at 7:08 AM

It would be nice if Netanyahu would briefly visit the United States to meet with Romney, completely ignore Zero, then return home. Then have the same thing happen with the PM’s of Poland, Czech Republic, Slovak Republic and maybe a few others Zero has ignored.

viking01 on October 4, 2012 at 7:11 AM

Steffie claims O won. Pathetic.

chewmeister on October 4, 2012 at 7:11 AM

Whenever someone needs a demonstration of the difference between an executive and a community organizer, point them to last night’s debate.

ajacksonian on October 4, 2012 at 7:11 AM

You guys have good reason to be pleased.
Romney did very well here. And he did well while being largely substansive
- not via ‘zingers’ etc.
Haven’t spoken to my Dad yet (a true undecided), but I’m bettin’ he’s leaning Romney today.
As much as I would have prefered a different outcome, I welcome the focus on real issues…and reality.

verbaluce on October 4, 2012 at 7:12 AM

Another punch line circulating on the net is:

After last night even Romney’s garbage man says he’s voting for Romney.

viking01 on October 4, 2012 at 7:13 AM

chewmeister on October 4, 2012 at 7:11 AM

*shaking the head*

we all called that yesterday…no matter how bad dear leader did, they were all going to call it for obama….

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 7:13 AM

ajacksonian on October 4, 2012 at 7:11 AM

No kiddin’. Obama was all alone on that stage. No Jarrett, No Axlerod, No Mooch, No MSM to back him up. Just a deer in the headlights look.

kingsjester on October 4, 2012 at 7:14 AM

Lets hope the strong debate Mitt continues to be the one we see on the campaign trail, and not the LA Times “jump the gun” apology Mitt.

….and if the Axelrod Cutter team has any dirt on Romney NOW is probably the time to leak it to the hungry wolves in the media.

Maybe we’ll see some polls to prove the Mittbots right in a few days.

NOTTHECOMMIE 2012 !!

PappyD61 on October 4, 2012 at 7:15 AM

verbaluce on October 4, 2012 at 7:12 AM

Uh huh.

Kleenex?

kingsjester on October 4, 2012 at 7:15 AM

A morning radio show is circulating a rumor that Shemp Smith has been given an offer by MSLSD.

Details to follow as those become available.

viking01 on October 4, 2012 at 7:16 AM

Hey I am Conservative.

Steveangell on October 4, 2012 at 2:38 AM

That’s laughable. Who are you trying to kid?

zoyclem on October 4, 2012 at 7:16 AM

verbaluce on October 4, 2012 at 7:12 AM

I’m glad to read your objective assessment. One of the traits that I liked about Romney from the very start is that he not an ideologue. That has brought a lot of fire on him from the right, but I am certain that he, unlike Obama, is sincere and capable of working with both D’s and R’s to solve our problems. He demonstrated it in MA and he projected it last night.

MJBrutus on October 4, 2012 at 7:16 AM

so we know the game plan for the next two weeks, pick apart everything mitt said last night and call him a liar
-lsm

fact checkers unite!

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 7:16 AM

So Romney needs to win just as decisively in the next debates if he wants to seal this deal.

Chuckles3 on October 4, 2012 at 7:03 AM

Points all made…except for one thing…W and Reagan were brilliant, Obama is not…W and Reagan were humble men, overachievers, Obama is not.

Reagan held a 54% advantage going into the debates, and Mondale actually probably won all three (the second he lost because of the famous on liner of not holding his youth against Mondale”…but the three debates didn’t help because Reagan came across as being “approachable” and the people liked him better. It was a different era.

This is more like Reagan/Carter debates…Reagan came into the debates slightly behind, but with the wind to his back, he had the momentum and the debates just helped the momentum to continue…I see it that way with this election…and with the middle east falling apart, akin to the hostage situation.

Mitt is now seen as “approachable”, he came across as being open, honest, sincere, and that is even better than winning on points, or Obama looking distressed.

right2bright on October 4, 2012 at 7:17 AM

I understand after last night’s lopsided debate Matt Damon immediately started preproduction for a new movie protesting Romney’s ventilation of the natural gasbag. Working title: “The Fracking of the President”

curved space on October 4, 2012 at 7:17 AM

It’s nice to see the demagogue-in-chief’s ass handed to him.

zoyclem on October 4, 2012 at 7:17 AM

Haven’t spoken to my Dad yet (a true undecided), but I’m bettin’ he’s leaning Romney today.
As much as I would have prefered a different outcome, I welcome the focus on real issues…and reality.

verbaluce on October 4, 2012 at 7:12 AM

Does that mean you’re kicked out of the basement?

Now that…would be…. reality.

viking01 on October 4, 2012 at 7:17 AM

What was it that Obama said…..that the debate preparations were a “drag” ?

Let’s watch his campaign stops the next 5 to 7 days.

If he shows up in Pennsylvania and Oregon you’ll know they are in deep doo-doo.

PappyD61 on October 4, 2012 at 7:18 AM

viking01 on October 4, 2012 at 7:16 AM

now THAT i believe…

he’ll fit right in….

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 7:18 AM

ryan next. will be wrose than this for team O. wont matter any. but the next will be even more fun the next morning. nothing at all surprising. the LSM pushing a false meme for months. doofus gaffey romney. what a putz. on morning joe they are stunned. where has this mitt been? he’s been on the trail like this everyday; all along. but they have been apprently actually believeing their own propoganda. they actually BELIEVE the cartoon figure they created out of whole coth was real. i always thought they were just lieing; pushing their false barative simply to help obama. knowing underneath what was reality. anyone in the real world says this morning: yeah, thats about right. what we expected. the LSM really are not only loathesome, but now bordeline mentally ill. they always say when you are in a boat stranded in the ocean, the urine drinkers go first, then the salt water drinkers, then those that didnt drink at all, from dehydration. the LSM have been actually drinking their urine.

t8stlikchkn on October 4, 2012 at 7:19 AM

SHUCK AND JIVE MEETS THE LAWS OF PHYSICS AND AN MBA.

nimrod on October 4, 2012 at 7:20 AM

kingsjester on October 4, 2012 at 7:14 AM

Being President isn’t a team position. It is a position of delegating authority and holding people accountable.

Unlike F&F, Benghazi, and all the rest of the stupidity that has been let to slide over the last 4 years.

ajacksonian on October 4, 2012 at 7:20 AM

unless of course they simply HAVE to feign shock, so as to keep their fantasy building for the useful idiots looking believable. i dont give them that much credit i suppose. they really are in a bubble and totally devoid of any contact with reality it seems. they are very sad to watch anymore.

t8stlikchkn on October 4, 2012 at 7:21 AM

axlerod
there was some fundamental dishonesty with mitt

yup, they got their talking points…

mitt is a liar

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 7:22 AM

same as ryan. after his conv speech. he’s a liar. pure unadulterated projection.

t8stlikchkn on October 4, 2012 at 7:24 AM

lol
axelrod demanding morning joe crew to fact check mitt…

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 7:25 AM

I just heard another point where Romney diverted an attempt by Lehrer to rescue Obama:

Obama: blah blah blah…

Lehrer (with presumed finality): Okay.

Romney: The president started that segment so I believe I get the last word.

viking01 on October 4, 2012 at 7:25 AM

axelrod demanding morning joe crew to fact check mitt…

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 7:25 AM

While in the same breath floating his own lie about a 5 trillion dollar tax increase from Mitt!

MJBrutus on October 4, 2012 at 7:28 AM

A devastating list of decisive points…one of the best….

90.5 billion for failed green energy, that would be 2 million additional teachers…”You put your money where your heart is”…

I think every one, liberal and conservative, gets it, if you wanted teachers, you had the money, but you spent it on failed green energy…2 million teachers…

right2bright on October 4, 2012 at 7:28 AM

Axlegrease is oozing all over the screen right now. Anybody else wonder why Obama has no defenders aside from his paid shills?

Naturally Curly on October 4, 2012 at 7:29 AM

MJBrutus on October 4, 2012 at 7:28 AM

oh yeah

Naturally Curly on October 4, 2012 at 7:29 AM

doesn’t look like he wants to be there….

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 7:30 AM

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 7:22 AM

its hilarious when obama lies every time he opens his mouth. one thing became glaringly clear last night, mitt is 10 times smarter than obama.

obama was simply out of his league. affirmative actions prince charming fell off his horse.

renalin on October 4, 2012 at 7:31 AM

NSLP=Next subject Lerher Please

Gedge on October 4, 2012 at 7:31 AM

I think Jim Lehrer did a great job, he let them go at it, and let them mostly finish their statements…he will get skewered by the liberal media for that, because their man flailed about so much…but kudos to Lehrer, perhaps the most robust debate ever.
He encouraged them to engage each other, and not the camera.

And the audience was great…once again, kudos for Jim to allow each candidate to strut their stuff…

right2bright on October 4, 2012 at 7:31 AM

The rage and crying on facebook is a thing to behold, as well.

If this is just the lib reaction after The Won losing a debate (badly) then come the election, if Romney wins, then we will be backstroking in an ocean of sweet, sweet liberal tears.

theflyonthewall on October 4, 2012 at 7:32 AM

now, as expected, it will get interesting. as dems begin to acknowledge the devasation thats coming. will they toss obama overbaoard before Nov? risky. but to save the “ideology”, maybe will have to be done. carter-ize the wound. after Nov, the story which is what the story was going to be all along: what is left of the dem party? fewer reps in house than in 80 years. minorty in senate and 14 looks to be more losses. and 16 ptous ocntenders under 70? -0-. they’re bankrupt. the meme has been how the GOP was destroying itself, when the exact opposite is/has been occuring.

t8stlikchkn on October 4, 2012 at 7:36 AM

obama was simply out of his league. affirmative actions prince charming fell off his horse.

renalin on October 4, 2012 at 7:31 AM

oh yeah….

cmsinaz on October 4, 2012 at 7:36 AM

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