Univision’s bombshell: Fast & Furious not just in Arizona, or Mexico

posted at 12:41 pm on October 1, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

The other shoe dropped on the ATF’s Operation Fast and Furious last night, and it should sting — if enough people pay attention to it. Univision reported that the effort wasn’t just limited to one ATF office in Arizona — it had other operations in Florida and Texas as well. The ATF and Department of Justice lost more weapons than they have so far acknowledged, and those weapons have been tied to even more murders than previously thought — including a massacre of teens and young adults. This report literally showed blood flowing in the streets as a result of Fast and Furious, as ABC News reports:

 

On January 30, 2010, a commando of at least 20 hit men parked themselves outside a birthday party of high school and college students in Villas de Salvarcar, Ciudad Juarez. Near midnight, the assassins, later identified as hired guns for the Mexican cartel La Linea, broke into a one-story house and opened fire on a gathering of nearly 60 teenagers. Outside, lookouts gunned down a screaming neighbor and several students who had managed to escape. Fourteen young men and women were killed, and 12 more were wounded before the hit men finally fled.

Indirectly, the United States government played a role in the massacre by supplying some of the firearms used by the cartel murderers. Three of the high caliber weapons fired that night in Villas de Salvarcar were linked to a gun tracing operation run by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), according to a Mexican army document obtained exclusively by Univision News.

Univision News identified a total of 57 more previously unreported firearms that were bought by straw purchasers monitored by ATF during Operation Fast and Furious, and then recovered in Mexico in sites related to murders, kidnappings, and at least one other massacre.

Even more troubling was the expanding scope of Fast and Furious, which wasn’t limited to Arizona — nor to Mexico, for that matter:

The Univision News investigation also found ATF offices from states besides Arizona pursued similar misguided strategies. In Florida, the weapons from Operation Castaway ended up in the hands of criminals in Colombia, Honduras and Venezuela[,] the lead informant in the case told Univision News in a prison interview. …

Other firearms under ATF surveillance were permitted to leave the country from Texas, according to court documents and the exclusive testimony of Magdalena Avila Villalobos, the sister of an ICE agent who survived a confrontation with cartel hit men on a rural highway in Mexico on February 15, 2011. His fellow agent, Jaime Zapata, was killed during the attacks.

“It’s not from Arizona and Fast and Furious,” Avila Villalobos told Univision News, speaking in her brother’s stead for the first time, “but it’s a very similar operation…” She later added, “Those weapons that have been recovered, it’s been confirmed that they were weapons used in the shootout that killed Jaime Zapata and wounded Victor Avila.”

Give ABC News credit for partnering with Univision on this report.  The American media has mostly been uninterested in this story, with the notable exceptions of Sharyl Attkisson at CBS and the LA Times.  This new report shows that Operation Fast and Furious was a larger program than the Obama administration has admitted, with several offices coordinating on those efforts, with a much wider scope for gun distribution than anyone let on.

Just FYI — the Obama White House is still insisting that executive privilege applies on Fast and Furious communications.  I’d guess that has something to do with the information broadcast by Univision last night.  That’s just one reason Paul Ryan has now joined the call for Eric Holder’s resignation:

Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan agrees with presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s call for Attorney General Eric Holder to resign, or for President Barack Obama to fire him, over Operation Fast and Furious, a Ryan spokesman told The Daily Caller.

“The congressman agrees with the governor,” Ryan spokesman Brendan Buck told TheDC on Sunday, referring to Mitt Romney’s call for Holder’s resignation or termination over the gunwalking scandal last December.

“Either Mr. Holder himself should resign, or the president should ask for his resignation or remove him,” Romney said in December 2011. “It’s unacceptable for him to continue in that position now given the fact that he has misled Congress and entirely botched the investigation of the Fast and Furious program.”

We need a resignation — followed by a real investigation.

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GM The UAW is still alive, you racists.
Bishop on October 1, 2012 at 12:54 PM

FIFY
;-)

LegendHasIt on October 1, 2012 at 1:33 PM

GM is still alive, you racists.

Bishop on October 1, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Al Qaeda is in better shape than GM , and they didnt need a bailout.

the_nile on October 1, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Ya, make drugs legal for voters who can prove they voted for Obama and the commie Democrats.

Sort of a clean up operation.

Take about 5 to 6 years for them all to come to ruin.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on October 1, 2012 at 1:34 PM

More people are dying just south of our border than are dying in the Middle East….
Priorities??

redguy on October 1, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Why should it be any different than the population control proposed and implemented under Planned Parenthood, paid for by the USA government using taxes collected for other purposes? Just an extension of an idea proven so popular here…

riddick on October 1, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Al Qaeda is in better shape than GM , and they didnt need a bailout.

the_nile on October 1, 2012 at 1:34 PM

HUH!? What do you call BILLIONS given to Egypt and Pakistan? You don’t think they are the backbone of Al Qaida funding?

riddick on October 1, 2012 at 1:35 PM

I’m already seeing the meme/spin.

But… Bush started this program.

faraway on October 1, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Sadly, you are probably correct. Did the Univision report mention Bush at all?

Corporal Tunnel on October 1, 2012 at 1:36 PM

What is the scope of Fast and Furious that puts it under the umbrella of executive privilege?

Cindy Munford on October 1, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Give ABC credit, you have to be kidding. ABC went with this story for the discovery factor to help better cover-up this entire issue later.

DDay on October 1, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Cindy Munford:

The umbrella is John Bonehead unspeakable of the House.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on October 1, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Ed, get pictures of the individual teens and their families.

Obama/Holder have succeeded in de-humanizing those Mexican Nationals who will live with this murderous Justice Department for a hundred years!!! Those guns are going to be used over and over!!!

Put the faces and the consequences for real families out there and then let them defend the cover up of those murders that can be directly linked to Obama’s Justice Department!

Would Holder and Obama been so quietly complacent if those guns were going into South Chicago and the victims were black? I think not. They do not consider Latinos as fully human.

petunia on October 1, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Give ABC credit, you have to be kidding. ABC went with this story for the discovery factor to help better cover-up this entire issue later.

DDay on October 1, 2012 at 1:38 PM

This will be nothing but a “program that started under Bush”. Bet on it. Heavily. And all the commatose 47%ers will buy it via texts to their HusseinPhones…

riddick on October 1, 2012 at 1:41 PM

I’m already seeing the meme/spin.

But… Bush started this program.

faraway on October 1, 2012 at 12:59 PM

The differences between this and Wide Receiver are many.

The Mexican Government was involved. The guns had tracking devices and Gunner runner/ Drug dealers were arrested.

When the tracking devices started to be discovered and disable. The Bush administration pulled the plug on it.

Fast and Furious did none of the above. Probably because its aim was not to stop crime. But to get guns banned here in the US.

CableDude on October 1, 2012 at 1:41 PM

This will be nothing but a “program that started under Bush”. Bet on it. Heavily. And all the commatose 47%ers will buy it via texts to their HusseinPhones…

riddick on October 1, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Don’t you mean Barryphone? ;)

ptcamn on October 1, 2012 at 1:45 PM

The differences between this and Wide Receiver are many.

CableDude on October 1, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Unfortunately, these differences exist only for about 20% of us. The rest either don’t know or don’t care. Or stick to their “Bush” apology, as they have been for years now.

Let’s stop theorizing. REALITY is that we are in a great minority.

riddick on October 1, 2012 at 1:45 PM

Give ABC News credit for partnering with Univision on this report. The American media has mostly been uninterested in this story, with the notable exceptions of Sharyl Attkisson at CBS and the LA Times.

Kudos to everyone involved in bringing this disaster to the headlines where it belongs. I’ll tell you what, my faith in the MSM “reporting the news” had hit rock bottom until I read about this. This is a HUGE disgrace. I wonder what the liars in this administration will come up with to try and cover up this mess? Congrats to Issa and the congressional investigative committee for at least trying to get to the bottom of this. And shame on the cowards in the White House.

scalleywag on October 1, 2012 at 1:45 PM

riddick on October 1, 2012 at 1:41 PM

Every time this issue has been brought up in the past by any Liberal or news media (one in the same) it has always been a Bush program. And about those phones, doesn’t all funding go through Congress? Time to shut them down.

DDay on October 1, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Don’t you mean Barryphone? ;)

ptcamn on October 1, 2012 at 1:45 PM

No. I want to call it what is, though: AzzholePhone. Works for both, those who dispense it and those who ask for it.

riddick on October 1, 2012 at 1:46 PM

And about those phones, doesn’t all funding go through Congress? Time to shut them down.

DDay on October 1, 2012 at 1:46 PM

You must be kidding! Please tell me which program, exactly, has been shut down by Boehner? Even though it is fully within his power as head of House and the checkbook holder.

riddick on October 1, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Google, Univision Fast and Furious….see who is covering this…

d1carter on October 1, 2012 at 1:50 PM

The problem is that nobody in this administration gives a damn. Please tell me, what in hell is important in this bizarro world of Obama and his band of merry Marxists?

rplat on October 1, 2012 at 1:52 PM

riddick on October 1, 2012 at 1:48 PM

I stand corrected, you are right. I lost my head, for a second there I was having a rationale thought. And I believe we both know, nothing rationale comes out of DC.

DDay on October 1, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Interesting phrasing in the ABC report:

“In Washington, the Fast and Furious scandal became politicized, diverting the attention from the human cost in Mexico to political battles on Capitol Hill.”

The way i read it, its not a big deal and is only being reported here because of internal fighting in Congress. Next one will add on to it and state that it is strange that GOP is politisizing something that started under BUSH (GOP).

riddick on October 1, 2012 at 1:54 PM

The way i read it, its not a big deal and is only being reported here because of internal fighting in Congress. Next one will add on to it and state that it is strange that GOP is politisizing something that started under BUSH (GOP).

riddick on October 1, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Winner!!!

DDay on October 1, 2012 at 1:56 PM

I stand corrected, you are right. I lost my head, for a second there I was having a rationale thought. And I believe we both know, nothing rationale comes out of DC.

DDay on October 1, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Even bigger problem that having Hussein re-elected is having Boehner as Speaker. It is well within hos power to stop paying for certain programs and even departments in government. No documents provided per House panel request to DoJ on Fast & Furious. Fine. Funding stops to the dept until that time when ALL the requested documents are provided. EPA is destroying the economy via illegal regulations. Shut down the agency and only pay for a small dept or two within to operate within its legal assignment. Education Department performing what is already being done by each and every state? Stop funding it. Etc, etc, etc.

Unfortunately, reality of what could and should be done under the powers of Constitution the way we understand is nothing remotely close to how Boehner and Co. see it. I am sure his perceived job duties is to get a great tan and cry once in a while, I have not seen him do much else.

And we saw the “outrage” of GOP when Newt stated during primaries that all judges should be called on the carpet and point out exactly where in the Constitution they somehow read their idiotic decisions. How correct was he and how on point.

riddick on October 1, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Actually – GM is flailing. Car sales propped up by real low interest rates, and GM trails most if not all of the major brands. GM Management is begging for the gov to sell their stake because they are not getting the floor traffic they need. Of course the govt won’t do that because they will already lose money on the loan guarentees – to sell their current stake in GM would result in even more losses.

Zomcon JEM on October 1, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Interesting phrasing in the ABC report:

“In Washington, the Fast and Furious scandal became politicized, diverting the attention from the human cost in Mexico to political battles on Capitol Hill.”

The way i read it, its not a big deal and is only being reported here because of internal fighting in Congress. Next one will add on to it and state that it is strange that GOP is politisizing something that started under BUSH (GOP).

riddick on October 1, 2012 at 1:54 PM

The media is as guilty to the murders as the Obama regime by covering this up enabling his sociopathic mind . They spin the fact they didn’t report it forcing republicans to bring it up as “politicizing”.

Media is pure evil.

the_nile on October 1, 2012 at 2:05 PM

It’s Sarah Palin’s fault that the American mainstream media wasn’t able to investigate and report on this scandal a year and a half ago. By publicly releasing the e-mail records from her time as governor of Alaska, she forced the media to descend upon them like a pack of intoxicated jackals, and thereby ignore Obama and Holder’s murderous gun smuggling operation. Shame on her!

Bruce MacMahon on October 1, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Would Holder and Obama been so quietly complacent if those guns were going into South Chicago and the victims were black? I think not. They do not consider Latinos as fully human.

petunia on October 1, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Supposedly, there is – or was – another operation that bought guns in Ohio and Indiana and shipped them to Chicago and Detroit, ostensibly for the same purpose.

Not only do holder and obama not consider Latinos not ‘fully human’…they don’t consider anyone outside of the leftist elite to be worthy of consideration. That’s why you always see them with a sneer on their faces when they have to address the ‘common masses’.

Solaratov on October 1, 2012 at 2:09 PM

What is the scope of Fast and Furious that puts it under the umbrella of executive privilege?

Cindy Munford on October 1, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Whim.

Tim_CA on October 1, 2012 at 2:10 PM

The dead Mexicans were part of the plan from the get-go. Costs fully accounted for in their cost/benefit analysis.

MSM response: “LOOK! MITT ROMNEY SAID SOMETHING FUNNY ABOUT AIRPLANE WINDOWS!!!!!”

Bruce MacMahon on October 1, 2012 at 2:10 PM

The problem is that nobody in this administration gives a damn. Please tell me, what in hell is important in this bizarro world of Obama and his band of merry Marxists?

rplat on October 1, 2012 at 1:52 PM

Beyonce and Jay Z. The View. The mirror.

scalleywag on October 1, 2012 at 2:11 PM

The Mexican government was also fully aware and cooperated with the U.S. during Wide Receiver. Fast and Furious did not.

JPeterman on October 1, 2012 at 1:11 PM

An EXCELLENT point JP and one I’m adding moving forward. Wide Receiver was a cooperative effort.

Tim_CA on October 1, 2012 at 1:24 PM

A huge difference often glossed over. A difference in fact between cooperation between allies and casus belli.

besser tot als rot on October 1, 2012 at 2:14 PM

riddick on October 1, 2012 at 2:00 PM

Judicial Activism, What would the Chief Justice do with out it.

Later back to work.

DDay on October 1, 2012 at 2:16 PM

The ATF and Department of Justice lost more weapons than they have so far acknowledged, and those weapons have been tied to even more murders than previously thought — including a massacre of teens and young adults.

War on Young People! or something…..

ted c on October 1, 2012 at 2:22 PM

besser tot als rot on October 1, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Should be part of every conversation involving F & F.

Tim_CA on October 1, 2012 at 2:22 PM

this is utterly amazing infuriating. these godless reprobates only care about their political futures.

tom daschle concerned on October 1, 2012 at 2:30 PM

The media is destroying the country.
Why are there no protests against the media?
We better stop viewing them as somehow sacrosanct and deal with them in a manner that they deserve as enemies within.

justltl on October 1, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Yes, and

Some people would frame the issue of dealing with a traitorous media as a First Amendment issue. The First Amendment shouldn’t be used to protect seditionists any more than the Second Amendment shouldn’t be used to protect criminals.

justltl on October 1, 2012 at 1:15 PM

YES!

PatriotGal2257 on October 1, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Ed, get pictures of the individual teens and their families.

Obama/Holder have succeeded in de-humanizing those Mexican Nationals who will live with this murderous Justice Department for a hundred years!!! Those guns are going to be used over and over!!!

Put the faces and the consequences for real families out there and then let them defend the cover up of those murders that can be directly linked to Obama’s Justice Department!

Would Holder and Obama been so quietly complacent if those guns were going into South Chicago and the victims were black? I think not. They do not consider Latinos as fully human.

petunia on October 1, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Some of that can be found here.

dont taze me bro on October 1, 2012 at 2:36 PM

(Drum Roll)

I have no idea, but I do know that you guys come up with really cool names for your fake scandals.

crr6 on July 10, 2011 at 1:24 PM

(Rim Shot)

Del Dolemonte on October 1, 2012 at 2:40 PM

It would appear that the left does not care about deaths outside our country, obamas right war has now gone over 2000 deaths and still no anti war protest by the code pinko stinkos. Why would they care about a bunch of Mexicans or for that matter innocent babies in the womb. The left is full of hypocrites. Is it any wonder why the country is in the toilet.

crosshugger on October 1, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Here’s another example.

Back in the Bush Years, the Democrat Media gleefully ticked down to the 1,000th, 2,000th, 3,000th and 4,000th US military deaths in Iraq.

Yesterday we passed 2,000 in Afghanistan. Sound of Crickets.

Del Dolemonte on October 1, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Dozens of teenagers killed???? With weapons supplied by Eric Holder???? Dude. DUDE. DUDE!!!

ted c on October 1, 2012 at 2:51 PM

The media is destroying the country.
Why are there no protests against the media?
We better stop viewing them as somehow sacrosanct and deal with them in a manner that they deserve as enemies within.

justltl on October 1, 2012 at 1:10 PM

what recourse do we have? What is the most lawful way of going around them? We can boycott them—we do. We can support alternative media—we do. How else????

ted c on October 1, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Yeah, SEVERAL OFFICES CO-COORDINATING, and NO ONE in Washington knew anything about it.

GarandFan on October 1, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Has anybody heard Secretary of State Hillary Clinton speak about the Fast & Furious scandal?

Since Mexico is a foreign country, the U.S. State Department should be managing the diplomatic issues involved in this international incident.

And as head of the State Department, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton should be explaining what happened to the American people.

wren on October 1, 2012 at 3:10 PM

This from Fast National Nielson data (final numbers in a few days):

In the 7 pm EST time slot:

FOX in first with overrun from Saints-Packers game: avg. 20.31 million viewers, or 7.8 rating among adults, 18-49

CBS, “60 Minutes” in second with 11.53 million viewers, 1.8 rating among adults

NBC, “Football Night in America” in third: avg. 6.79 million, 2.4 rating

ABC, “Once Upon a Time,” fourth, 6 million, 1.8 rating

Univision, “Fast and Furious,” avg. 2.8 million, 1.0 rating for Sunday night
The program is not up for viewing on Univision’s website.

Here’s some interesting data: 9.7 million Hispanics voted in 2008 (Pew Research), roughly half the eligible Hispanic voters. Obama won 67% and McCain won 31%. An estimated 23.4 million Hispanic voters are eligible to vote this year. Obama’s been nothing to write home about, so assume a similar percentage turnout of actual voters, 50%, or roughly 12 million. Assuming same proportion of actual voters who watched the show, 1/12th of Hispanics who will vote this year saw the Univision “Fast and Furious” special last night. That’s not a negligible number who may have second thoughts about Obama.

Of course, the show is getting media exposure far out of proportion to its Hispanic viewership, which may result in a few more second thoughts among the wider voting population.

de rigueur on October 1, 2012 at 3:13 PM

The program is not up for viewing on Univision’s website.

de rigueur on October 1, 2012 at 3:13 PM

de rigueur on October 1, 2012 at 3:14 PM

What is the scope of Fast and Furious that puts it under the umbrella of executive privilege?

Cindy Munford on October 1, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Because Obama doesn’t want to come clean, and the privilege claim guarantees that even if he loses in court it will not come until after the election.

I have no idea, but I do know that you guys come up with really cool names for your fake scandals.

crr6 on July 10, 2011 at 1:24 PM

Hey, Einstein, the code name was selected by Obama’s people who set it up. But nice to know you consider hundreds of dead people a “phony scandal,” you filthy commie scum.

Adjoran on October 1, 2012 at 3:15 PM

JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
Border Patrol
I.C.E.
F.B.I.
D.E.A.

National Security Agency

C.I.A.

Pres. Obama
VP Biden
National Security Council

Committees of the House and Senate.

All the members of the top security committees of the House and Senate.

Just to name a few who knew and know now.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on October 1, 2012 at 3:24 PM

State Dept.
Sec. of State

APACHEWHOKNOWS on October 1, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Obama Regime Met 30 Times With Mexican Government To Promote Food Stamp Use Among Mexican Immigrants In America…

All is well, nothing to see here, move along please.

JPeterman on October 1, 2012 at 12:51 PM

But Obama can’t meet with the Prime Minister of Israel over the three stage rocket and Atomic warhead it will carry. Illegals, yes, Allies, no.

God we are headed for World War IV so fast I can’t believe it.

Bulletchaser on October 1, 2012 at 3:45 PM

BTW, every time HA links to Univision, I’m getting bombarded by attempts to link grab by cdnapi.kaltura.com. Which is apparently chaltura.com under another name.

If you can’t block these creeps, I’d suggest not linking to Univision.

cheers

eon

eon on October 1, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Remember the movie, The Creature from the Black Lagoon?

There were five scientists on some expedition by boat. They had four Mexican servants/guides with them. The creature killed all the Mexicans one by one.

When he sank his fangs into one of the (white) scientists, the team leader radioed home with the alarming news that one of their men had gone missing.

Akzed on October 1, 2012 at 3:57 PM

The problem is that nobody in this administration gives a damn. Please tell me, what in hell is important in this bizarro world of Obama and his band of merry Marxists? rplat on October 1, 2012 at 1:52 PM

Au contraire. It’s very important to Obooba & Co. So much so that they refuse to cooperate with the investigation, to the point of declaring executive privilege to hide evidence.

This was an admission of guilty involvement Obooba was willing to leverage to keep a lid on this for as long as possible.

Akzed on October 1, 2012 at 4:03 PM

Obama is responsible for the deaths of over 300 Mexicans, 2 Americans, now 16 teenagers—all Mexicans. He also tramples on the Catholic Church—the primary one that most Mexicans belong to.

chew on that Latino voters……he cares that much about you.

ted c on October 1, 2012 at 4:15 PM

O/T.

New CNN pol just releasedl: Obama 50-47 with a D+8 and Romney up 8 with independents. I thought the race was over?!

RepublicanInMA on October 1, 2012 at 4:20 PM

These Latinos at Univision are way off the reservation. There will be some punish our enemies activity.

CorporatePiggy on October 1, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Documentary filmmaker Fleming Fuller has produced a full-blown re-enactment of the events the night Border Patrol agent Brian Terry was killed. Terry was murdered in 2010 with Operation Fast and Furious weapons that the Obama administration allowed to fall into the hands of Mexican drug cartels.

The re-enactment, shot on location in the stretch of Peck Canyon, Arizona, where Terry was killed, offers viewers a glimpse into what likely happened that night.

The scene is part of a larger documentary that’s in the works called “Fast and Furious: Under the Radar and Above the Law.

It opens with actors portraying Terry and the rest of his Border Patrol Tactical Unit (BORTAC) team on location in the dark canyon late on Dec. 14, 2010. The group is seen staking out their positions in the desert with full tactical gear.

ted c on October 1, 2012 at 4:28 PM

Akzed on October 1, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Ouch. Pretty much works that way with native bearers in Tarzan movies, too.

de rigueur on October 1, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Keep stonewalling people. I want the investigation concluded and charges brought up after Romney is sworn in so that there will be NO CHANCE that Eric Holder will be pardoned for this.

Lily on October 1, 2012 at 12:51 PM

If Romney wins, there will be a huge flood of pardons before Obama is dragged out of the White House. Some of them will be pre-emptive pardons for criminals that have not yet been indicted.

Holder will be at the top of the list.

tom on October 1, 2012 at 4:35 PM

I pray it’s his lasting legacy, the failed, corrupt, murderous presidency

screwauger on October 1, 2012 at 4:37 PM

It opens with actors portraying Terry and the rest of his Border Patrol Tactical Unit (BORTAC) team on location in the dark canyon late on Dec. 14, 2010. The group is seen staking out their positions in the desert with full tactical gear.

ted c on October 1, 2012 at 4:28 PM

Does it show Brian Terry loading non-lethal BEAN BAG ROUNDS into his shotgun? The ones he was to use to defend against an AK-47.

Solaratov on October 1, 2012 at 4:37 PM

If Romney wins, there will be a huge flood of pardons before Obama is dragged out of the White House. Some of them will be pre-emptive pardons for criminals that have not yet been indicted.

Holder will be at the top of the list.

tom on October 1, 2012 at 4:35 PM

If there is a just God in charge, the states involved will bring charges. A federal pardon doesn’t mean squat against state charges.
And, if there are state charges, Mexico might develop some cojones and try to extradite holder, et al, to stand trial down there.

It could prove interesting.

Solaratov on October 1, 2012 at 4:42 PM

The picture of blood in the streets made me tear up. Why doesn’t anyone seem to care?

the_moll on October 1, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Kudos to Univision for airing this story. Holder and the ATF sold guns to the drug cartels used to kill innocent Mexican teenagers.
A cartel ringleader is arrested at the border, detained for 6 hours, then an ATF agent gives him her phone number and he enters Mexico, never to be seen again.

I Wonder how this will play with the Hispanic vote?

Steve Z on October 1, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Holder will be at the top of the list.

tom on October 1, 2012 at 4:35 PM

I don’t think that can save him from CIVIL suits if some families decide to go that route.

riddick on October 1, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Over a year ago, on one of the local gun boards here in Arizona, somebody linked a story to an FFL dealer in the Dallas area who claimed that the BATFE had given him the green light to make sales to straw purchasers.

This doesn’t surprise me one bit. Yet aren’t we led to believe (via the IG report) that this was all the result of a rogue Phoenix office?

It’s getting pretty deep in here.

Hill60 on October 1, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Gun dealers regularly identified suspected straw purchasers of multiple semi-auto rifles to ATFE, and were told time and time again to go ahead with the sale. Gun dealers seem to have a lot more common sense than the federal government. In general they are very nice people as well.

slickwillie2001 on October 1, 2012 at 5:07 PM

Talk is cheap. I am literally sick of hearing about it. It’s like 8 hours of pre-game for a football game that never happens.

Quit “calling” for an investigation or a prosecution and DO it.

The Democrats get away with their blatant criminality because the Republicans are puttys that let them.

Man up.

Saltyron on October 1, 2012 at 5:10 PM

The Democrats get away with their blatant criminality because the Republicans are puttys that let them.

Man up.

Saltyron on October 1, 2012 at 5:10 PM

I’m convinced that many of the DC Republicans are still terrified today of those 900 FBI files that Bill and Hillary immediately got their hands on after they became President.

Del Dolemonte on October 1, 2012 at 5:15 PM

All the more reason to regularly flush the Congressional toilet bowl, and send the incumbent, regardless of party, back to the private sector.

Congress needs more turnover than a Giant Eagle – it reduces the ability of the corrupt to build power bases, which lead to even more rampart corruption.

The media used to help limit corruption, but, well, ya know.

Saltyron on October 1, 2012 at 5:21 PM

This is not a “bombshell”. This has been known for some time. There was also a similar operation involving involving a Central American nation- Honduras, I believe.

Sipsey Street Irregulars and others have been on this for over a year. But since they’re not David Frum they don’t get linked around here.

Joe Arpaio is here.

sartana on October 1, 2012 at 5:35 PM

I’m convinced that many of the DC Republicans are still terrified today of those 900 FBI files that Bill and Hillary immediately got their hands on after they became President.

Del Dolemonte on October 1, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Is there really any doubt that little Bammie and Axleshaft have done the same? Do you think the moron Eric Holder would object to that?

slickwillie2001 on October 1, 2012 at 5:50 PM

We need a resignation — followed by a real investigation.

Arrests would be welcome as well…

Seven Percent Solution on October 1, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Millions of our young people died fighting for this government corruption.
The new definition of insanity is being an American Democrat thinking your vote is helping America.

Don L on October 1, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Now, is there any chance that the rest of the media will cover this?

And secondarily, is there any chance that I can get to page 1 of the comments without a major error code coming up?

Siddhartha Vicious on October 1, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Univision: once again, Mexicans doing the jobs Americans won’t.

parteagirl on October 1, 2012 at 1:07 PM

..We clean your toilets!”

–Antonio Villaraigosa

The War Planner on October 1, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Might have worked if you’d been able to forego the comma after Arizona, but that wasn’t in your gift, was it [that’s where you put a comma, fat man]?

As it is, none of it worked. And now you have to, er, need to deal, with, like, all these people who don’t know where to put a comma, either. Millions of them. And so many of them are fat and dull. And they’re all waiting for you and your opinion.

Kinda like sorta like sad like er Dude?

JackieB on October 1, 2012 at 6:35 PM

lol

sartana on October 1, 2012 at 6:39 PM

We need a resignation

I’m thinking a resignation just like Nixon’s.

chemman on October 1, 2012 at 6:40 PM

I’m thinking a resignation just like Nixon’s.

chemman on October 1, 2012 at 6:40 PM

But single-fingers rather than the Vee-sign.

slickwillie2001 on October 1, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Just a few bumps in the road.
Nothing happened here, not until Bob Woodward chimes in on it. Afterall, a lot more people died during the Watergate scandal. And we all know that this is the most open and ethical administration ever. The biggest threat to our democracy is electing politicians like that misogynist Todd Akin.

racquetballer on October 1, 2012 at 7:01 PM

I haven’t read through all the comments yet, but I’m sure many of you had the same jaw dropping reaction I had; That IS “blood in the streets”. I’m utterly speechless that Holder has (so far) gotten away with this. I’m also mad as hell that pundits like that hideous A.B. Stoddard, just on FOX, said (paraphrasing) “No one will care- it won’t matter, not a factor in the election”. Really, Seriously? Blood is FLOWING in the streets thanks to a misguided American “plan”?. Blech.

BettyRuth on October 1, 2012 at 7:08 PM

It’s pathetic that we have to go to media in other countries to find out what’s happening here (and in this case, there, too). Our media machine has gone to hell, literally.

The Rogue Tomato on October 1, 2012 at 7:14 PM

…and mittens milquetoast will do WHAT differently??????????? What will change with mittens in charge?

Pragmatic on October 1, 2012 at 7:21 PM

And lets not forget that its not just Holder, but Clinton as well since State was supplying the Zetas with weapons, too.

There is a whole list of agencies involved in this set of scandals, including DEA, and the flow of US weapons through the US government to criminals has been a huge mess that none of the MFM have been covering and the few people who have gotten any time to cover it can’t cover it all because of the scope of operations. And the cover-up is huge to try and blanket so many top level officials.

ajacksonian on October 1, 2012 at 7:22 PM

and mittens milquetoast will do WHAT differently??????????? What will change with mittens in charge?

Pragmatic on October 1, 2012 at 7:21 PM

why r u making this about Mitt. It’s about that slumdog Obama in the White House and the people like u who want to keep him there. The Mexicans are gonna sue us over this..give that rat bast*rd Holder something to do.

gracie on October 1, 2012 at 7:35 PM

…and mittens milquetoast will do WHAT differently??????????? What will change with mittens in charge?

Pragmatic on October 1, 2012 at 7:21 PM

For one.. the flow of Holder’s guns will be cut off..

another, no more such death for political points operations launched..

and the bast*rds who started this, will at the least, loose the ability to do it any more.. and the investigations can start..

YOU might think Mitt will look the other way on this murderous scandal.. I don’t believe he will.. He’s a father first.. not the cold blooded lizard Obama, and his band of “sacrifices have to be made” revolutionaries.. There will be a reckoning..

Because if you really see no difference between a good man.. and those Marxist sons o b*tches with Obama..

then stay home..

You can’t fight evil by throwing your hands up and walking away, you have to take a stand.

mark81150 on October 1, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Somebody really needs to be put in the catbird seat. Eric Holder is a schmutz dirtbag who thinks he can just tap dance around, thumb his nose at Issa, and suffer no consequences.

ted c on October 1, 2012 at 8:09 PM

from the heritage link

As we have been reporting, Administration officials have been less than revealing about what they knew about the ill-conceived Fast and Furious Operation, including the strong possibility that Attorney General Eric Holder may have contradicted himself in sworn congressional testimony.

As my colleague Lachlan Markay writes responding to the recently released report authored by the Department of Justice’s own inspector general:

While the report does not claim that Holder misled Congress, it does say that those affidavits suggested gunwalking took place. Holder says he read those affidavits, and that they suggested no such thing. If the inspector general is correct, both claims cannot be true—either Holder did not review the affidavits, or he was not truthful about their contents.

ted c on October 1, 2012 at 8:15 PM

If their was justice while this president is our president, he and eric holder would of been impeached by now and in jail

sadsushi on October 1, 2012 at 8:28 PM

I don’t believe the phrase “Fast N’Furious” has ever been uttered my Wittens Milliard.

Not once.

sartana on October 1, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Interesting article by John Lott on this…………….
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/10/01/fast-furious-report-leaves-americans-with-crucial-questions/

Solaratov on October 1, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Romney wants illegals to pay for Harvard.

Obama wants to kill illegal teens.

faraway on October 1, 2012 at 8:52 PM

I don’t believe the phrase “Fast N’Furious” has ever been uttered my Wittens Milliard.

Not once.

sartana on October 1, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Well, if you believe that…you believe wrong, lil fella.
You might do well to research something like that before you post it. Someone might think that you weren’t being entirely honest…IYKWIMAITYD.

Solaratov on October 1, 2012 at 8:55 PM

why r u making this about Mitt.

gracie on October 1, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Because it’s all that boring-ass Tokyo Rose wannabe has.

CurtZHP on October 1, 2012 at 8:55 PM

A resignation?!

Lol…right…..how about you or I do the exact same thing Eric Holder has done, and see if people are calling for our resignation.

This is the worst state of corruption I have ever seen, and it goes right to the top. What has happened to our country in just 2 generations?!?

KMC1 on October 1, 2012 at 9:03 PM

If obama is not directly involved in the F&F decision making (and planning) process, why did he claim “executive privilege” on the documents requested by Issa?
He can only claim E.P. for documents to or from him in the white house. It looks as though that would be a tacit admission that he was involved in F&F.

Solaratov on October 1, 2012 at 10:32 PM

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