WaPo confirms: State Dept did nothing to address security concerns in Benghazi

posted at 2:01 pm on September 30, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Most of what the Washington Post reports today we already knew — the security at our consulate in Benghazi obviously didn’t meet even minimal standards, let alone the requirements of a diplomatic mission in an area where radical Islamist terrorist networks operate openly.  The results of the terrorist attack attest to that much.  The Post confirms, though, that the State Department never took those security concerns seriously, and implies that the late Ambassador Chris Stevens didn’t either:

On the eve of his death, U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens was ebullient as he returned for the first time in his new role to Benghazi, the eastern Libyan city that embraced him as a savior during last year’s civil war. He moved around the coastal town in an armored vehicle and held a marathon of meetings, his handful of bodyguards trailing discreetly behind.

But as Stevens met with Benghazi civic leaders, U.S. officials appear to have underestimated the threat facing both the ambassador and other Americans. They had not reinforced the U.S. diplomatic outpost there to meet strict safety standards for government buildings overseas. Nor had they posted a U.S. Marine detachment, as at other diplomatic sites in high-threat regions.

A U.S. military team assigned to establish security at the new embassy in Tripoli, in a previously undisclosed detail, was never instructed to fortify the temporary hub in the east. Instead, a small local guard force was hired by a British private security firm as part of a contract worth less than half of what it costs to deploy a single U.S. service member in a war zone for a year.

The discovery of Stevens’ journal by CNN in the burnt-out consulate — which the FBI still has yet to visit — indicated that Stevens had become increasingly in fear of his life, and wrote that he’d been put on an al-Qaeda hit list. However, earlier incidents should have made clear that State needed to provide better security, and that the need was increasing:

The U.S. outpost had a close call of its own June 6, when a small roadside bomb detonated outside the walls, causing no injuries or significant damage. But the Americans stayed put.

Geoff Porter, a risk and security analyst who specializes in North Africa, said the sudden and stark shift from “predictable violence to terrorism” in the east over the summer was unmistakable.

“The U.S. intelligence apparatus must have had a sense the environment was shifting,” he said.

Ernesto Londono and Abigail Hauslohner report that his friends didn’t hear any complaints from Stevens, and that he was excited to be back in Benghazi.  However, their Libyan contacts tried to dissuade the Americans from any kind of public appearance, warning that security was deteriorating:

But if Stevens was deeply worried about deteriorating security, as CNN has reported he wrote in an entry in his journal, he kept quiet, said the Libyan friend who was with him the day before the attack.

“We didn’t talk about attacks,” the friend said. “He would have never come on the anniversary of September 11th if he had had any concerns.”

Three days before the attack, a U.S. official in Benghazi met with security leaders to ask them about the threat level, a senior Libyan official in the east said on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.

The American did not disclose the ambassador’s visit.

“They told him, ‘Look, if there’s going to be any foreign presence [in the city], it better be discreet,’ ” the Libyan official said.

In other words, the State Department had plenty of indicators that the consulate in Benghazi was at high risk.  The British had pulled out of the city entirely due to the deteriorating conditions in eastern Libya.  Instead of bolstering security or moving diplomatic personnel back to the embassy in Tripoli, State did nothing — and sent Stevens into the city for a very public tour.  Ironically, the US now won’t send FBI investigators within 400 miles of Benghazi now for the investigation into the terrorist attack because of security concerns in the Benghazi region.

Most of this has already been known or assumed, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t note the confirmation of the incompetence that left four Americans dead and a diplomatic installation an open target for radical Islamist terrorists.

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What blithering idiot came up with “smart” power?

Oh, right, Barack HUSSEIN Obama. Calling him a blithering idiot is almost blaspheming actual blithering idiots. Unlike the prophet of islam blithering idiots actually exist.

wildcat72 on September 30, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Give up wingnuts. Undecided voters don’t care about these fake scandals.

/?

faraway on September 30, 2012 at 2:06 PM

God. That picture would stop a clock. Maybe it explains Bill’s Lewinsky thing.

Dingbat63 on September 30, 2012 at 2:07 PM

When doing nothing is not a plus?

Bmore on September 30, 2012 at 2:08 PM

WaPo confirms: State Dept did nothing to address security concerns in Benghazi
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AHEM…………………..

Victoria Nuland
Spokesperson
Daily Press Briefing
Washington, DC
September 13, 2012
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QUESTION: Can you talk a little bit more about the security
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that was at the Embassy? It seems that for an area such as Benghazi, where there was a lot of instability, there were very few guards there. And can you talk about whether the U.S. asked Libya, the Libyan Government, earlier in the week for extra security precaution and whether that – extra security precautions or security personnel and whether that request was fulfilled?

MS. NULAND: Well, let me start by reminding you that we are extremely cautious in any circumstances about talking publicly about our security arrangements. You can understand that the more you talk about these things, the more difficult it is to maintain security at your facilities. So –

QUESTION: It does seem though that there were very few security personnel at this location.

MS. NULAND: I’m going to reject that, Elise. Let me tell you what I can about the security at our mission in Benghazi. It did include a local Libyan guard force around the outer perimeter. This is the way we work in all of our missions all around the world, that the outer perimeter is the responsibility of the host government. There was obviously a physical perimeter barrier, a wall. And then there was a robust American security presence inside the compound. This is absolutely consistent with what we have done at a number of missions similar to Benghazi around the world.

QUESTION: Could you talk about whether a request was made to the Libyan Government as early as Sunday or Monday and whether that – for additional security precautions, given the fact that there was some trouble in the area, and whether that request was fulfilled?

MS. NULAND: I’m not prepared to talk about specific diplomatic engagements between us and the Libyans on security, either before or after.

QUESTION: Well, I mean, I have to take issue with that, because there have been several incidents, including you from the podium, throughout the Arab Spring where you’ve said –

MS. NULAND: Right.

QUESTION: — that you’ve talked about discussions with the various governments –

MS. NULAND: Right.

QUESTION: — about needing additional security precautions – the Syrians, for instance –

MS. NULAND: Right.

QUESTION: — which was one of the reasons that you closed your Embassy, because those precautions were not taken. So why would this be any different?

MS. NULAND: Elise, I’m happy to see whether there’s more that we can share on this, but I don’t have it today.

QUESTION: (Inaudible) is it your understanding that you were satisfied with the security at the Embassy – at the consulate at the time of –

MS. NULAND: What I can say is that, as we did with all of our missions overseas in advance of the September 11th anniversary, and as we do every year, we did evaluate the threat stream and we determined that the security at Benghazi was appropriate for what we knew. But I can’t speak to any other diplomatic conversations that might have gone on with the Libyans. But I’m happy to see if I can get any more information.

QUESTION: I just have one more question.

MS. NULAND: Yeah.

QUESTION: On this movie that seems to be the kind of genesis, at least in some of these other areas of protest in the country, did you know about this movie before these protests erupted? Did anybody notify you that this movie was coming out and to be on the lookout for potential protests?

MS. NULAND: Well, I don’t want to get too much into this particular video, because it just gives it more credit than any of us want to. I think you heard the Secretary speak to this issue this morning and to make it clear that we absolutely reject both its message and its content, which we consider disgusting and reprehensible. She said it far better than I can here.

The interesting thing about this, as I understand it, is that this had actually been circulating at a relatively low level for some months out there in cyberspace and that it only caught fire in the region on the day or just before the day that we began to see these various protests.

QUESTION: Victoria –

MS. NULAND: And I can’t, obviously, speak to why that might have been.

Let me go to Margaret, and then we’ll come back to you, Said.

QUESTION: And can you give us an update on some of the staffers who were evacuated who are in Germany or elsewhere? There were some reports of a third one regaining consciousness in a hospital in Germany. And if you could also give us a sense of the two other fatalities. All of us have seen different names and different details. Can you give us some definitive information?

MS. NULAND: I don’t have much to add on our three wounded in – who are now in Germany receiving treatment. That’s for reasons of their privacy. If we understand that they’re interested in sharing more of their condition with you all, I will get that for you.

With regard to the other two, as you recall, the Secretary spoke of four fallen comrades at the beginning of this. I have to say that one of the reasons we were late today was we were trying to see whether we were in a position to talk publicly about them. I regret that we are not yet ready to do that. You know that we have very sensitive and careful protocols that we do with the families, with the arrangements, before we go public with these things. So we will get that information to you as soon as we can, but I don’t have it today.

QUESTION: So that means the family of one of these individuals has not been informed yet?

MS. NULAND: Again, I’m not going to go into the specifics, but we want to do this in a way that is completely respectful of both families and doesn’t surprise anybody, and we’re just not there yet.

Okay.

(A lot More……………)
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http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2012/09/197729.htm

canopfor on September 30, 2012 at 2:09 PM

God. That picture would stop a clock. Maybe it explains Bill’s Lewinsky thing.

Dingbat63 on September 30, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Mooch ain’t a whole lot better either.

wildcat72 on September 30, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Dear God that picture.

That’s enough to make someone lose their lunch.

gophergirl on September 30, 2012 at 2:10 PM

You know, I look a that pic and I think another “I am not a witch”-ad is due.

Valkyriepundit on September 30, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Yes yes yes, this has been picked to death, we know…

But par for the course, nothing will be done except to be talked about…

My glass is half empty on this subject…sigh…

I want to see some ACTION !!

Scrumpy on September 30, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Yeah, but WHAT ABOUT ROMNEY’S GAFFES!

/LSM

Robert_Paulson on September 30, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Where are the 37 survivors of this attack? How come the marine rescue failed? How come we never hear about this “rescue”?

clnurnberg on September 30, 2012 at 2:13 PM

So, we have WaPo, Cnn, Newsweek, Univision, London Telegraph, AlJazeera all telling us the same story and, let me guess, tomorrow night Diane Sawyer will lead with Honey BooBoo…

The Milli Vanilli president, brought to you by the mainstream media…

hillsoftx on September 30, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Instead, a small local guard force was hired by a British private security firm as part of a contract worth less than half of what it costs to deploy a single U.S. service member in a war zone for a year.

…oh!…so now they’re being careful with taxpayer’s money?

KOOLAID2 on September 30, 2012 at 2:15 PM

The Milli Vanilli president, brought to you by the mainstream media…

hillsoftx on September 30, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Girl, you know it’s true. Blame it on the rain.

;)

Myron Falwell on September 30, 2012 at 2:17 PM

God. That picture would stop a clock. Maybe it explains Bill’s Lewinsky thing.

Dingbat63 on September 30, 2012 at 2:07 PM

…I’m surprised BJ didn’t go geh!

KOOLAID2 on September 30, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Instead, a small local guard force was hired by a British private security firm as part of a contract worth less than half of what it costs to deploy a single U.S. service member in a war zone for a year.

…oh!…so now they’re being careful with taxpayer’s money?

KOOLAID2 on September 30, 2012 at 2:15 PM

A platoon of Marines is worth their weight in gold.

wildcat72 on September 30, 2012 at 2:17 PM

IS that dear hill? Good gosh has that old gas bag gone down hill!

If she has a tiny brain cell thinking she would run for president in 2016, there will be major major re-do on her from head to toe?
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letget on September 30, 2012 at 2:18 PM

That picture has rendered my flaccid for all time.

1921 C DRUM on September 30, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Ironically, the US now won’t send FBI investigators within 400 miles of Benghazi now for the investigation into the terrorist attack because security concerns of the possibility that Obama’s feckless foreign policy failure will be revealed in the Benghazi region.

modified for truthiness.

ted c on September 30, 2012 at 2:18 PM

That picture has rendered my flaccid for all time.

1921 C DRUM on September 30, 2012 at 2:18 PM

If they sent that picture to all young men with the caption, “Even Jessica Alba will look like this someday” maybe there won’t be any need for $18,000 worth of birth control for the Sandra Fluke crowd?

wildcat72 on September 30, 2012 at 2:19 PM

State Department Daily Press Briefings,Transcripts/Video

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/index.htm

https://twitter.com/StateDept

US Mission to the UN ‏@USUN

FACT SHEET: U.S. accomplishments at the #UN: Reinvigorating the #UN’s al-Qaeda #Sanctions Regime: http://go.usa.gov/YrM5 @AmbassadorRice

http://usun.state.gov/documents/organization/198486.pdf

canopfor on September 30, 2012 at 2:21 PM

wildcat72 on September 30, 2012 at 2:19 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Scrumpy on September 30, 2012 at 2:22 PM

hillary should resign.

the media ought to demand it.

they would if she was

kissinger
schultz
baker
or rice
or christopher

(their darlings –
powell
and allbright would get a pass – as hillary is getting)

reliapundit on September 30, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Well at least you can say one thing about the picture, hill isn’t anywhere near h thomas, yet!
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letget on September 30, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Why don’t we ever read details of the failed rescue?

clnurnberg on September 30, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Do I need to say it…. If this were a Republican President….

sandee on September 30, 2012 at 2:25 PM

Well at least you can say one thing about the picture, hill isn’t anywhere near h thomas, yet!
L

letget on September 30, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Yes, but you can tell with absolute certainty THAT SHE WILL BE.

Same thing with young Chelsea. That girl was doomed to be ugly from birth. In her case I feel a little sorry for her, since she didn’t choose her parents.

Not enough to go out with her though. ;)

wildcat72 on September 30, 2012 at 2:25 PM

Ed, you keep trumpeting the fact that the FBI isn’t on the ground investigating. But can you tell me what the point of them doing so would be? After Bush 43′s efforts over the years, I thought we had gotten past the Clintonian urge to ‘investigate’ everything and moved on to more realistic ‘hunt them down and kill them’ MO using intelligence, drone strikes, and the occasional incursion.

Vatican Watcher on September 30, 2012 at 2:26 PM

This is a good rundown by Romney:
Back in 2008, President Obama didn’t make the case for his candidacy on his accomplishments because he couldn’t. He didn’t have any. So instead, he just touted his judgment. He insisted that he knew the issues and knew the consequences of our actions. And he argued that if we were more humble abroad and took our place as merely one among many nations rather than as an exceptional nation, we could rebuild at home and command more respect abroad. Our economy would be stronger, he argued. Our moral standing would be higher. And, of course, our country would be safer.

Four years later, every one of these arguments has been proven wrong. We’re struggling through the worst recovery since the Great Depression. Our moral standing has declined. The world has become more dangerous. His theory that receding American leadership would calm anger against us and win us favor has not only failed, but it’s produced more chaos.

The Middle East is a case in point. In Syria, a dictator has slaughtered tens of thousands of innocent people. Our embassies across the Islamic world were violently stormed. In Libya, terrorists attacked a U.S. consulate, killing our ambassador and three other Americans. In Iran, the ayatollahs race full tilt to develop nuclear weapons capability.

Through it all, President Obama continues to show that he does not grasp the dimensions of what’s occurring and has no strategy to protect and advance our interests. We’ve seen a confused, slow, and inconsistent response to the terrorist attack in Libya, a refusal to be frank with the American people about what happened, and a complete failure to explain the growing terrorist threat we face in the region. Instead of standing with Israel—our closest ally in the region—he downgrades Israel to merely, quote, “one of our closest allies” in the Middle East. And he refuses to meet with Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, at a moment when a show of solidarity before the world is needed.

President Obama’s foreign policy is one of passivity and denial. And that places America and our friends and allies at the mercy of events and those who mean to do us harm. I believe we should shape events to protect our interests and our ideals. In a time of testing, an American president must show strong leadership.

In a dangerous world, we can’t allow indifference to undermine security. Only strength and clarity can keep the peace. When I’m president, I’ll reverse President Obama’s defense cuts. I’ll call terrorism what it is. I will never abdicate American leadership – and I will never apologize for America.

g2825m on September 30, 2012 at 2:31 PM

My theory: (and it’s not particularly brilliant.)

The ambassador in Libya knew he was in a world of sh-t. He let the higher-ups know about it. This, of course, would shoot holes in the whole “Arab Spring as a budding democracy movement” meme, so they quietly ignored him.

The inevitable went down and he ended up dead. OOPS! That wasn’t supposed to happen.

The regime knew the fat was in the fire within the first 24 hours. In order to CYA, 0bama sends one of his hapless minions to the interwebs to do a Youtube search for anything – ANYTHING – that might be construed to be offensive to Muslims.

Enter the patsy who produced the video in question.

The regime puts this out as the reason for the attack.

Of course the whole thing fell apart by the end of the week, because we’re dealing with academics who don’t currently reside in Realville. They never count on things happening in a manner different from how they theorize things will happen.

CurtZHP on September 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

The process of “sending in the FBI” is only to give a faux veneer soundbite to indicate that “something” is being done. Actually, what is there to be done at this point? Diddly and squat except for some JDAM strikes IMO. BO needs to take a big hit politically on this

ted c on September 30, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Wow, just went to the original link for this WaPo story to see how delusional the comments would be from the O’bots there.

I was not disappointed.

Saw more than one mention of Cheney and Halliburton there.

Also many mentions of how the 1983 bombing of the US “Embassy” in Beirut was much worse, because it happened on Reagan’s watch. But none of them are smart enough to realize that it was military barracks that were bombed, not an Embassy.

And when one poster correctly noted that the last time a U.S. Ambassador was killed it was on Democrat Jimmy Carter’s watch, that Leftist meme soon went down in flames.

Del Dolemonte on September 30, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Ed, you keep trumpeting the fact that the FBI isn’t on the ground investigating. But can you tell me what the point of them doing so would be? After Bush 43′s efforts over the years, I thought we had gotten past the Clintonian urge to ‘investigate’ everything and moved on to more realistic ‘hunt them down and kill them’ MO using intelligence, drone strikes, and the occasional incursion.

Vatican Watcher on September 30, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Many here have been postulating that the O’bamna Regime is deliberately preventing the FBI from investigating this, because they know that the FBI would never cover up for their own failures.

Del Dolemonte on September 30, 2012 at 2:35 PM

It’s not as if this consulate building, such that it was, was only occupied by Stevens and 3 other people. Where is the information from all the survivors, and even the MSM admits there were survivors. No one seems to want their stories of thei information?

clnurnberg on September 30, 2012 at 2:36 PM

I’d like someone to ask Clinton what possible excuse she could have for not paying more attention to security issues, which is her JOB, at an Ambassador and an Embassy in such a volatile area swarming with terrorists? And part two, how does she sleep at night?

As for the FBI, the only “crime” they should be investigating is the incompetence at the State Department and their refusal to tell the truth. Despicable liars, the whole lot of them.

scalleywag on September 30, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Many here have been postulating that the O’bamna Regime is deliberately preventing the FBI from investigating this, because they know that the FBI would never cover up for their own failures.

Del Dolemonte on September 30, 2012 at 2:35 PM

And I agree with that.

VegasRick on September 30, 2012 at 2:37 PM

GOD AWFUL- That pic of Hillary! Did she just do a shot of Quervo, or is that her come hither look?

SMACKRUNNER on September 30, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Hillary must step down. The Butcher of Benghazi must step down.

I’m using lib Rhetoric here but the point is she must step down and be prosecuted.

SparkPlug on September 30, 2012 at 2:37 PM

No one seems to want their stories of thei information?

clnurnberg on September 30, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Yea, wonder why that could be.

scalleywag on September 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Ugh,since the long version(with Linkys),is in cyber-space limbo,
I’ll put up the first part!
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****************** OH BOY *************************************

Years of warning about embassy security preceded Libya attack

State Department acknowledged as recently as February it lacked funding for some security improvements

UPDATED 11:50 AM EDT,
September 12, 2012
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The way U.S. embassies and consulates protect their staffs in volatile locations has raised several red flags in Congress, among watchdogs and even an outside commission in recent years.

The concerns came into sharp focus with the death in Libya of U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens in an attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, as well as an attack Tuesday on the U.S. embassy in Cairo.

While the State Department has responded to some of the criticisms leveled by congressional oversight bodies and its own internal watchdog, its Diplomatic Security (DS) office recently acknowledged it lacked the funding for some recommended improvements, such as security training, and was instead looking for workarounds.

“We cannot sufficiently meet the additional training recommendations outlined in the Secretary’s QDDR (quadrennial review). Therefore, DS is aggressively pursuing on-line alternatives, e.g., distance learning of FACT lessons minus the hard skills (i.e., weapons familiarization and driver’s training) to increase training capabilities,” the department candidly acknowledged in a

February performance evaluation report.
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http://www.state.gov/s/d/rm/rls/perfrpt/2011performancesummary/html/191458.htm

In response to Stevens’s death at the hands of an angry mob outside the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, President Barack Obama announced Wednesday that he has “directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world.” U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said some 50 Marines are being sent to Libya to reinforce security at U.S. diplomatic facilities.

“There is no higher priority than protecting our men and women wherever they serve,” said Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Her department identified embassy and personnel security as one of its major management challenges in its 2012 budget and priorities report.

One of the biggest concerns raised in recent years has been the quality and capabilities of private security contractors hired to protect embassy staffs.

The congressionally chartered Commission on Wartime Contracting issued a

strong warning in 2009,
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(A lot More………..)

http://www.washingtonguardian.com/red-flags-embassy-security

canopfor on September 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

In other words, the State Department had plenty of indicators that the consulate in Benghazi was at high risk.

It’s a good thing we have the press on our side, protecting our liberties and freedom.

racquetballer on September 30, 2012 at 2:39 PM

But just like Fast and Furious, this will go nowhere…The media will see to that..

sandee on September 30, 2012 at 2:39 PM

scalleywag on September 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

If CNN was in town to get a journal, they had plenty of time to interview the survivors or even the helicopter crew? Yet, no? Hussein is playing a sinister game.

clnurnberg on September 30, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Vatican Watcher on September 30, 2012 at 2:26 PM

I trumpet this, too. But that doesn’t mean I believe it is the right or best thing to use the FBI in this case. It just means that the administration made this the plan, and they can’t even carry that out. It’s another failure (at best) piled on top of an already massive series of failures. As suggested above, one might begin to wonder if this failure to arrive on site in a timely fashion isn’t part of the plan. It is very plausible given everything that has happened.

dont taze me bro on September 30, 2012 at 2:40 PM

This cover up is an obstruction of justice. The White House must step down.

They lied and people died.

SparkPlug on September 30, 2012 at 2:41 PM

This cover up is an obstruction of justice. The White House must step down.

They lied and people died.

SparkPlug on September 30, 2012 at 2:41 PM

If only…

sandee on September 30, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Ed, the only reason WaPo is reporting on this now is because Brit newspapers broke this info over a week ago.

As usual, after holding off on the story, here they come finally admitting what every one already knows now that they have to and they think the delay might cause most people’s attention to be elsewhere.

manofaiki on September 30, 2012 at 2:42 PM

People don’t care.

This is just blogosphere noise and inside the beltway blah blah.

If people don’t care about gas prices doubling, housing prices down 10%, $16 trillion in debt, $5 trillion plus in Obamadebt, Death Panels and healthcare rationing and the war on Coal, and on and on and on…..

They are NOT worried about this.

The election is probably over this week anyway. If Romney doesn’t beat him soundly in the debate all Obama has to do is coast to victory. Apparently the American people really really don’t like Romney and they’d rather get the orphaned black kid from the streets of Chi-town another chance before they fire him.

Just think………..running against the worst president in American history, after historic gains for your own party just two years earlier…….and you’re losing.

#thanksrinosyoupickedhim

PappyD61 on September 30, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Many here have been postulating that the O’bamna Regime is deliberately preventing the FBI from investigating this, because they know that the FBI would never cover up for their own failures.

Del Dolemonte on September 30, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Rush was the first prominent person to say that, and I believe he’s right.

One good thing J. Edgar Hoover left was that the FBI is, for the most part, independent. Obama would rather have the completely compromised DOJ handle any investigations.

wildcat72 on September 30, 2012 at 2:43 PM

SparkPlug on September 30, 2012 at 2:41 PM

BUt the media is part of the cover up and they will never step down.

clnurnberg on September 30, 2012 at 2:43 PM

I’m waiting for the MSM to come out and claim that just because the Administration didn’t get every detail right, it’s no proof they did anything wrong. Then to say we’re beating a dead horse; this is old news and more important things are coming up–like the debates and how Obama is going to trounce Romney.

Liam on September 30, 2012 at 2:43 PM

I had wished that November would hurry up and come. Now I wish we had a little more time…

sandee on September 30, 2012 at 2:45 PM

And why did the media initially run with the “jewish film producer” lie. Who is this hidden man? Is any of this based in reality

clnurnberg on September 30, 2012 at 2:46 PM

The WaPo is getting ‘religion’.

Schadenfreude on September 30, 2012 at 2:46 PM

The New York Times says that a government official says that the survivors are spread out across Europe and the USA and that hampers the investigation here.

d1carter on September 30, 2012 at 2:46 PM

sandee on September 30, 2012 at 2:39 PM

We are going to give univision some viewers tonight to see if they do have anything new on F&F? I know new facts won’t go anyplace, but at least maybe the Hispanics here in the US might re-think voting for bho?
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letget on September 30, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Food for thought

Schadenfreude on September 30, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Whether there’s one month left or three, the MSM will hide this story. Like Acorn before it, it is a “game changer” and needs to be supressed.

clnurnberg on September 30, 2012 at 2:47 PM

The New York Times says that a government official says that the survivors are spread out across Europe and the USA and that hampers the investigation here.

Is that kind of like the key “witness” in Fast and Furious being sent to Iraq so we can’t question him?

sandee on September 30, 2012 at 2:48 PM

It’s a good thing we have the press on our side, protecting our liberties and freedom.

racquetballer on September 30, 2012 at 2:39 PM

That is largely true, however, as Hotair has pointed out, some of the major outlets have come out with stories over the last few days. This is a lot bigger scandal than they’d like to admit and they don’t want to be singled out as the only outlet who didn’t cover it. Still, some of them will likely spin it anyway and make excuses for the inexcusable lack of leadership, but I’ve seen some decent coverage from some unlikely sources.

scalleywag on September 30, 2012 at 2:49 PM

It’s not their fault. They were busy doing stuff.

The Rogue Tomato on September 30, 2012 at 2:49 PM

The press carrying water for the Dem is nothing new.Look for them to sweep all the mistakes of Barry under the rug,and to distract attention from or make excuse for him if they can’t.

bayview on September 30, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Why don’t we ever read details of the failed rescue?

[clnurnberg on September 30, 2012 at 2:24 PM]

Are you referring, IIRC, to the helicopter with Marines that was sent during/after the attack on the consulate?

If so, good question. Again, IIRC, the helicopter was fired on damaged/shot down (don’t remember which) and a some Marines injured/killed. They keep talking about 4 killed in this attack but it seems to me there were other Americans directly related to the attack killed.

Dusty on September 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM

As always, Ideology trumps the obvious, with the American Left! There’s an old Greek Fisherman’s saying:”The Fish Died Because of it’s Big Mouth”. They were so happy spiking the ball on Osama at the DNC, they wouldn’t allow for the Obvious retribution by Al-Qaeda. Oh, yea, Obama said they were all but dead too. How’s that working out for you, Obama?

For those following,How to take on the Obama Enemy media: http://paratisiusa.blogspot.com/2012/09/an-open-letter-to-those-who-should-know.html?spref=tw

God Bless America!

paratisi on September 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM

I think I was right all along about this. It’s a massive screwup by Hillary Clinton. The coverup was necessary to protect her. Obama can’t throw her under the bus because he made a deal with Bill to get Bill to save his @ss. The CIA and counterterrorosm folks weren’t in on that deal so they spilled the beans to Congress and the media.

rockmom on September 30, 2012 at 2:52 PM

When Bush was in office we wondered if the media could keep a national secret, now that the 0 is there we know they can keep plenty of secrets…but only if protects dear leader.

Fast and Furious details hidden, Fast and Furious Benghazi edition minimized and distorted.

clnurnberg on September 30, 2012 at 2:53 PM

The fact that the FBI is still in Tripoli speaks volumes.
Seems we have probably dug up most of what they would found here on the net and the regime is not too happy about what we found out.
If it was politically favorable and to the regimes advantage to send them to Tripoli you can be dam sure they would be there with a full contingent of Marines guarding them if necessary. By the way who here thinks our FBI guys are not up to taking on some Benghazi terror types anyway? The terror types are cheap hit and run guys who only attack when they have overwhelming force. Up against a contingent of FBI guys the terror types wold be in the local bars on their knees praying to Mecca.
This is all political and the politics don’t favor the regime.
Stephens had most likely become a liability. He knew waaay too much and probably had to go. Anyway that happened would be OK with the regime.Also when the entire story finally gets out that we had a gay American ambassador who was brutally tortured in a foreign land where he had trusted and loved the people for years it won’t look good for the regime.
He had been in on the plan to give the terror types weapons during the Libyan Arab Spring when terror types took over from Ghadaffi yet another terror type. Things had gone horribly wrong and now they had tasked Stevens to get their weapons back. A lot harder than giving them out as we see.

rodguy911 on September 30, 2012 at 2:53 PM

God. That picture would stop a clock. Maybe it explains Bill’s Lewinsky thing.

Dingbat63 on September 30, 2012 at 2:07 PM

That’s her anime look.

davidk on September 30, 2012 at 2:53 PM

The worst part about this and solyndra, and Fast and Furious is, If the truth does come out, and I think it will, it will be too late. Obama will already be re-elected…

sandee on September 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM

So, failed SOS Clinton and obama ARE going to be arrested and charged with aiding and abetting the enemy, Right?

Pork-Chop on September 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM

All internal polls show that Obama has already won the election, so this so-called story is just a red herring put out by racist sore-loser Conservatives to deflect from the outcome.

Love,
The MSM

Liam on September 30, 2012 at 2:54 PM

The process of “sending in the FBI” is only to give a faux veneer soundbite to indicate that “something” is being done. Actually, what is there to be done at this point? Diddly and squat except for some JDAM strikes IMO. BO needs to take a big hit politically on this

ted c on September 30, 2012 at 2:33 PM

ted c:

I would think,that common sense,says,

take out known Jihady camps/lodges/outhouses/meeting places/training camps,

as a form of retalitory strikes,instead of a defeaning silence
of the,

************LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD**********************:)

canopfor on September 30, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Dusty on September 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Exactly, a helicopter rescue and over 30 nameless survivors. This is way bigger than an ambassador. Where did they all go?

clnurnberg on September 30, 2012 at 2:55 PM

sandee on September 30, 2012 at 2:48 PM

At least half of the survivors were CIA operatives so I bet they know where they are…
Some reports have the helicopter rescue mission manned by eight Marines and other reports refer them as State Department employees…not a whole lot of detail has been reported about this event.

d1carter on September 30, 2012 at 2:56 PM

I detest Hillary as much as the next person, but this, like F and F, is Obama’s fiasco. And there is a big story lurking under the few details we have.

clnurnberg on September 30, 2012 at 2:57 PM

I’ll go back and read the rest of the comments after posting, but this is starting to play out just like I thought it would. The whole thing is going to come crashing down on Hillary’s head. Obama has already gotten the speech he needed out of Billy Boy to bolster his numbers after the DNC. Obama doesn’t like the Clinton’s, as has already been reported numerous times. This is his chance to toss Hillary under the bus, and I have no doubts that Obama is going to do it: he is going to lay all blame for the consulate attack and lack of security on the State Department (and thus, ultimately, as Hillary Clinton’s responsibility). And by the same token, he will toss Billy Jeff out with her.

However, I think this could also cause a backlash for Obama with the Hillary/Bill supporters. I don’t have any doubts that Bill Clinton is voting for Romney this year. I have a feeling his wife is going to do the same thing…and Hillary supporters will get behind Romney after Obama slams her as the culprit in the Benghazi attack. This is how I hope things play out!

Highlar on September 30, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Do I need to say it…. If this were a Republican President….

sandee on September 30, 2012 at 2:25 PM

Remember back in 2003 and 2004 and 2005 and 2006 and 2007 and 2008, when the Democrat Media breathlessly reminded us of the 1,000th, 2,000th, 3,000th and 4,000th US military deaths in Iraq?

Well, earlier today, we passed 2,000 in Afghanistan. I’ve seen mention of that milestone in about 2 news blogs, and Huffington Post.

And that is about all.

Del Dolemonte on September 30, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Not necessarily giving BJ the mulligan for his infidelity, but you do understand why he does it after you look at that picture of Hillary.

bayview on September 30, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Obama will already be re-elected…

PLEASE girl, don’t have all those negative vibs! Think positive! That is keeping me going praying and asking everyone to GO vote for R&R! That is all I can do for my beloved Republic.
L

letget on September 30, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Are there no “Hillary-from-afar-with-her-back-to-the-camera” pictures available?

Tim_CA on September 30, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Strange mother…makes one wonder why she’d speak such nonsense about “bump in the road”.

From last night’s QotD thread

This from the UK’s Daily Mail.

Mother of Navy SEAL killed in Libya while trying to protect ambassador slams government for ‘unacceptable’ delay in investigating deaths

Cheryl Croft Bennett, whose son Tyrone Woods died alongside his comrade Glen Doherty while trying to protect consulate staff, took to Facebook to denounce the lack of progress in uncovering the circumstances behind the raid.

The grieving mother has been posting regular online messages paying tribute to her son and describing her experiences with government officials in the aftermath of the tragedy.

On Thursday Ms Bennett wrote: ‘Don’t want to ever politicize the loss of my son in Libya, but it has been 16 days and the FBI has yet to get to Benghazi to begin their investigation.

‘Apparently they have made it to Tripoli but haven’t been allowed to enter Benghazi. Meanwhile, the diplomatic outpost where Tyrone and Glen died, was not and is not secured. Absolutely unacceptable.’

This from the Boston Herald.

Ex-SEAL’s mom: ‘It’s sad’ death politicized

The mother of a former Navy SEAL from Winchester killed in Libya said it is “very sad” that her son’s death was being used as political theater yesterday — and she agreed with President Obama’s controversial assessment that the latest round of deadly troubles in the region constitute “bumps in the road.”

She said every day, men like her son are making a difference for those who live in that region.

“Those people, not only there, but other places, are under horrid dictatorships,” Barbara Doherty told the Herald yesterday. “They’re very angry. They’re poor. It is a little bump in the road. They are making progress. You can’t expect it to happen in one night. Progress is slow.”

Glen Doherty, 42, a private security contractor, was killed protecting U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens during what the Obama administration now acknowledges was a terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi two weeks ago.

Two different mothers, two very different reactions.

Flora Duh on September 29, 2012 at 10:20 PM

Schadenfreude on September 30, 2012 at 3:01 PM

FBI in Tripoli is doing what the SS was doing in Colombia……..

/hookahz

ted c on September 30, 2012 at 3:01 PM

PLEASE girl, don’t have all those negative vibs! Think positive! That is keeping me going praying and asking everyone to GO vote for R&R! That is all I can do for my beloved Republic.
L

letget on September 30, 2012 at 2:59 PM

I’m trying… I guess my point should have been that when the truth comes out Obama “may” have been elected and then what?

sandee on September 30, 2012 at 3:01 PM

re: the above comments about the helicopter rescue.

This the first I’ve heard about that.

davidk on September 30, 2012 at 3:03 PM

this is just like 2008. There was the truth about Obama that failed to get out because the media embargoed it. Same is true today, Obama is awesome, he will be reelected, and a dead ambassador is only a big deal if you’re a republican.

ted c on September 30, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Flora, it’s like Stevens Mother.I just can’t relate to a person who Lost their Son and cares More about Obamas re-election. Strange and sad…

sandee on September 30, 2012 at 3:05 PM

God. That picture would stop a clock. Maybe it explains Bill’s Lewinsky thing.

[Dingbat63 on September 30, 2012 at 2:07 PM]

Come on, that’s a good pic (and I’d hazard, a great one) of her. And she’s not un-handsome in it, especially for a 65 yo.

Dusty on September 30, 2012 at 3:06 PM

re: the above comments about the helicopter rescue.

This the first I’ve heard about that.

davidk on September 30, 2012 at 3:03 PM

most of the country has heard less than that—-that is, Jack and Squat. Apparently, 1 – 2 Marines were killed and 10x wounded. Where is the STORY on that? How was the body recovered? Where are those people?

Look at what is coming out on F&F tonight through Univision—–the STORIES about the Mexican victims of this policy, this strategy, this method of gunwalking. The truth has to come out some way and some how about Benghazi because it is patently obvious that ABC, CBS, and NBC are not going to go there unless they are literally dragged there. Am I wrong?

ted c on September 30, 2012 at 3:07 PM

Highlar on September 30, 2012 at 2:57 PM

I agree with your take on the matter, but I can’t see Hillary getting tossed before the election. For her to be fired or resign would only highlight the whole affair and leave room for more questions, which Obama doesn’t want. More, the MSM don’t want to have to start asking those questions.

If Obama wins, I think Hillary will be gone after the first of the the year. If Obama loses, none of it will matter. That will let the Administration and its MSM lapdogs off the hook.

Liam on September 30, 2012 at 3:07 PM

re: prayer

“Prayer does not fit us for the greater work; prayer is the greater work.” ~Oswald Chambers

davidk on September 30, 2012 at 3:07 PM

g2825m on September 30, 2012 at 2:31 PM

He should lead with that at the first debate. Regardless of the question. He wins the election right then and there if he shoves it in Barry’s face and rubs it in. The media can’t spin a smackdown on live TV.

Memo to Mitt #89: Fight. Attack. Your opponent is on the ropes. No nicey-nicey RINO crap–kick him to the ground, the people are behind you if you lead them.

spiritof61 on September 30, 2012 at 3:08 PM

this is just like 2008. There was the truth about Obama that failed to get out because the media embargoed it. Same is true today, Obama is awesome, he will be reelected, and a dead ambassador is only a big deal if you’re a republican.

ted c on September 30, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Exactly. And what did the media do to Bush. Ran a drunk driving story right before the election and then next time ran with the fake National Guard papers…. Sickening…

sandee on September 30, 2012 at 3:08 PM

and then what?

ZERO! bho/team has gotten away with so much that any other president/team would be hauled to court/impeached and ZERO has happened to them yet! IF bho is re-elected, katy bar the door, there is nothing they can do that anyone can stop them! Believe it or not?
L

letget on September 30, 2012 at 3:08 PM

The Benghazi debacle shares Tet’s political DNA. In the aftermath, Fox News broke the news that the attack was a terrorist act and not the result of spontaneous mob action. It took the administration a week to admit the true nature of the Benghazi attacks. The extent to which the attacks on diplomatic posts throughout the Muslim world were coordinated begs attention.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/28/could-benghazi-attack-be-obamas-tet/#ixzz27yvid5oW

ted c on September 30, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Ed, I’ll pay you to stop using that pic. Name your price.

joejm65 on September 30, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Ed, you keep trumpeting the fact that the FBI isn’t on the ground investigating. But can you tell me what the point of them doing so would be? After Bush 43′s efforts over the years, I thought we had gotten past the Clintonian urge to ‘investigate’ everything and moved on to more realistic ‘hunt them down and kill them’ MO using intelligence, drone strikes, and the occasional incursion.

Vatican Watcher on September 30, 2012 at 2:26 PM

So Obama has no reason to …and he is just a liar when there is a mention of sending the FBI…Gotcha.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Bmore on September 30, 2012 at 2:08 PM

*clink*

The state dept did nothing in anticipation of 911. They knew of the dangers and did nothing.

SparkPlug on September 30, 2012 at 3:11 PM

yep, even in a post 9/11 world, the state department was acting like it was pre 1993—that is, before the original WTC bombing.

ted c on September 30, 2012 at 3:12 PM

The Benghazi debacle

ted c on September 30, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Yep The BenghaziGate coverup is a debacle too.

SparkPlug on September 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM

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