Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

posted at 8:01 am on September 30, 2012 by Allahpundit

A two-track strategy for Team Mitt this morning as the countdown to the first presidential debate begins. One: Send Paul Ryan over to “Fox News Sunday” to speak directly to conservatives, as part of his new mission to reassure the right that the campaign is where it needs to be at the moment. Two: Send Chris Christie over to ABC, NBC, and CBS to make the pitch to moderates, especially blue-collar moderates in the wake of Romney’s “47 percent” remarks.

Meanwhile, appearing for the Democrats, it’ll be Plouffe and Axelrod. As usual. The line-up via WaPo:

NBC’s Meet the Press: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie; White House senior adviser David Plouffe; Ralph Reed, Faith and Freedom Coalition; former Gov. Ed Rendell (D-PA); Katty Kay, BBC; Chuck Todd, NBC

CBS’ Face the Nation: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie; Newt Gingrich; Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN); Larry Sabato, University of Virginia; Robert Shrum, Republican strategist; Bob Woodward, Washington Post; Mark Zandi, Moody Analytics; Michelle Rhee, former DC Chancellor of Schools; Hedrick Smith, journalist

ABC’s This Week: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie; White House senior adviser David Plouffe; former Mississippi governor Haley Barbour; former Vermont governor Howard Dean; Donna Brazile, Democratic strategist; Matthew Dowd, political strategist; Maggie Haberman, Politico

Fox News Sunday: Republican vice presidential candidate Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)

CNN’s State of the Union with Candy Crowley: Sen. John McCain (R-AZ); Obama Campaign senior adviser David Axelrod; Gov. Martin O’Malley (D-MD); Sen. Roy Blunt (R-MO); Alex Castellanos, Republican consultant; Celinda Lake, Democratic strategist; Dana Bash, CNN


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faraway on September 30, 2012 at 9:52 AM

cnn digging the likability for dear leader…he’s got it in the bag…

blech

cmsinaz on September 30, 2012 at 9:53 AM

I love a man that lies to me about murders

faraway on September 30, 2012 at 9:54 AM

the lsm meme this am…is this race over, look at all these polls?

cmsinaz on September 30, 2012 at 9:54 AM

It is saying simply one word – “War”

Flora Duh on September 30, 2012 at 9:43 AM

It’s early, I’m only on coffee#1, but I’m reading that as war against the media? Which I love and think could be just as effective as the tea party in 2010.

BettyRuth on September 30, 2012 at 9:54 AM

canopfor on September 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM

never gets old does it…

cmsinaz on September 30, 2012 at 9:31 AM

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canopfor on September 30, 2012 at 9:55 AM

How can you support him? How can you still want him for president? Are your pet social issues so important as to destroy a nation to get them?

hawkdriver on September 30, 2012 at 8:59 AM

I’ve said it before, I’ll no doubt have to say it again. The notion that “the nation will be destroyed” doesn’t frighten me the way it frightens you, because I know from history that “the nation has been destroyed” and rebuilt many times over again. A nation was destroyed and rebuilt after the civil war. For many people a vision of the nation was destroyed at every moment of progressive change, women getting the right to vote, the first labor unions, the New Deal, the end of Jim Crow, the coming of gay rights etc. etc. etc. Lets face it. When you say “the nation is going to be destroyed” you merely mean your conception of the American nation. And a conception of nation is just a fancier way of saying “I have an opinion.” Well congrats! But so do lots of other people and their/our sense of what the nation should be will eventually surpass and overtake yours if for no other reason than you’re old and we’re not. Its called generational change, the hysteria around it is more amusing than anything.

None of these means there aren’t serious problems to sort out, but maybe they’ll be sorted out a little differently than the boomers did it. By which I mean, perhaps it won’t be sorted out by a bunch of narcissistic cry babies who, their whole lives, wanted their cake and to eat it too. How else can you support passing a tax cut during a massive occupation of two nations. That, right there, is Boomerism to a tea and it is going by the wayside. Deal.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 9:58 AM

From Twitchy:

Lapdog Sunday headlines: Media ignore #Benghazigate, focus on Romney

unfortunately our side wants to be invited to THEIR cocktail parties.

renalin on September 30, 2012 at 9:49 AM

I don’t, do you? When Breitbart spoke of waging war against the media he wasn’t talking about members of the GOP – he was talking about us – the citizenry.

As Sharyl Attkinson of CBS said a couple of weeks ago, it is up to US, the public, to hold them accountable to do their jobs.

Flora Duh on September 30, 2012 at 9:58 AM

@meetthepress tweeted:

meetthepress
Christ Christie on impact of debates: “Come Thursday morning, the entire narrative of this race is gonna change” #MTP

46 mins ago from twitter.com by editor

Sen John McCain says debates don’t offer ‘a major breakthrough’ for candidates on ‘State of the Union’ – @politico

8 mins ago from http://www.politico.com by editor

http://www.politico.com/blogs/politico-live/2012/09/mccain-lowers-debate-expectations-137017.html
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http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/2012-elections

canopfor on September 30, 2012 at 9:59 AM

As Sharyl Attkinson of CBS said a couple of weeks ago, it is up to US, the public, to hold them accountable to do their jobs.

Flora Duh on September 30, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Flora Duh:

Amen FD,the MSM will never post the stuff,that resides on the
H/A pages….(linkys) from H/A commenters!–:)

canopfor on September 30, 2012 at 10:02 AM

“the struggling Romney campaign is recalibrating”

faraway on September 30, 2012 at 10:02 AM

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/09/30/1-dispatch-poll-shows-obama-in-lead.html

More devastating Ohio polls for Romney. The state is no longer a toss up.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:02 AM

but maybe they’ll be sorted out a little differently than the boomers did it. By which I mean, perhaps it won’t be sorted out by a bunch of narcissistic cry babies who, their whole lives, wanted their cake and to eat it too.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 9:58 AM

A little early to be hitting the crack pipe, isn’t it professor?

Flora Duh on September 30, 2012 at 10:02 AM

Christie up on ABC now.

Philly on September 30, 2012 at 10:02 AM

And on NBC

Philly on September 30, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Christie up on ABC now.

Philly on September 30, 2012 at 10:02 AM

And on NBC

Philly on September 30, 2012 at 10:03 AM

I knew the guy was big, but dang.

faraway on September 30, 2012 at 10:05 AM

A little early to be hitting the crack pipe, isn’t it professor?

Flora Duh on September 30, 2012 at 10:02 AM

You can do much better than that.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM

The state is no longer a toss up.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:02 AM

Yeah, I noticed that last night.

http://youtu.be/5k79sFwnPAs

Be sure to watch all the way to the end to appreciate the full impact.

Flora Duh on September 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Not really much of answer. Lots of words though. Congrats.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM

I knew the guy was big, but dang.

faraway on September 30, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Yup, I think a woman or a gay person will be elected President before a morbidly obese person.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Oh lookie, there IS actual voter fraud happening in Florida. Guess who’s doing it:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/30/us/politics/suspicious-voter-forms-found-in-10-florida-counties.html?smid=fb-share

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:08 AM

steffie quoting the same CK article david gregory did. the fat man should call steffie out as being complicit in the destruction of a free press in this country,

the fat man also believes that mitt is behind in all the battle ground states. triple facepalm

renalin on September 30, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Yup, I think a woman or a gay person will be elected President before a morbidly obese person.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Obese people have civil rights too, you know. How dare you.

faraway on September 30, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Libfree the reality is you are a welfare state proponent and you want government in our lives in almost every way…well except in our bedrooms.(And there you want everybody else to pay for it). You think like a child and ergo your talk of generational change. Hopefully we want be so far stuck in the muck by the time you grow up. Hey tell us about Greece and Spain. There lies much our future. Not that you care…well not at your age.

Hey you have never told me: Is 50% of black babies being aborted enough? How much is enough? Sleep on that you racist b8tch.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Christie “The country is hungry”

faraway on September 30, 2012 at 10:11 AM

You can do much better than that.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Thanks for acknowledging that. And you’re right, I can. But it has been a long election season and I’m one of those tired old baby boomers you like to deride, so I’ve decided that until November 7th I will answer ignorance with the response it deserves.

Flora Duh on September 30, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Yeah, I noticed that last night.

http://youtu.be/5k79sFwnPAs

Be sure to watch all the way to the end to appreciate the full impact.

Flora Duh on September 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM

I’m not quite sure how to break this to you. Sarah Palin and John McCain had backed enthusiastic crowds in not only Ohio, but Pennsylvania all through October in 2008. How is this possible? Because just because you’re not going to win doesn’t mean there aren’t still tens of thousands, heck hundreds of thousands of incredibly passionate supporters in a given state for the losing side. There are only two candidates and something close to a 100 million votes will be cast. Why do you not understand this basic fact. The existence of a passionate pro-Romney crowd in a swing state is absolutely NO EVIDENCE that Romney will win the state. None.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:12 AM

Anyone who places ANY weight upon any polls at this point in time is being played, IMHO.
I’d even say that if they said Romney was running away with it.

pambi on September 30, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Oh lookie, there IS actual voter fraud happening in Florida. Guess who’s doing it:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/30/us/politics/suspicious-voter-forms-found-in-10-florida-counties.html?smid=fb-share

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:08 AM

So you support the moves to improve the integrity of our voting system. Good to know. I knew you’d see it our way.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Yeah, I noticed that last night.

http://youtu.be/5k79sFwnPAs

Be sure to watch all the way to the end to appreciate the full impact.

Flora Duh on September 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Nice find, Flora. A real day-brightener!

Naturally Curly on September 30, 2012 at 10:14 AM

You can do much better than that.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Thanks for acknowledging that. And you’re right, I can. But it has been a long election season and I’m one of those tired old baby boomers you like to deride, so I’ve decided that until November 7th I will answer ignorance with the response it deserves.

Flora Duh on September 30, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Yes because we all know the younger set with all of their life experiences and wisdom are the best at making decisions. I see it every single day….oh wait….
/

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Hey you have never told me: Is 50% of black babies being aborted enough? How much is enough? Sleep on that you racist b8tch.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:10 AM

I think the rate of abortion in the black community speaks to the number of black women who feel they are unprepared to raise a child. Which certainly says something about the way society supports motherhood.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:16 AM

@DefeatObama12

Plouffe doesn’t find any issue with Obama going to Vegas to fundraise the day after a 9/11 terrorist attack http://t.co/9Q3zatOG

Flora Duh on September 30, 2012 at 10:16 AM

(CNSNews.com) – In New York City in 2007, 87,527 abortions were performed, with 43,568–or 49.8 percent–of the aborted babies being black, according to the CDC. The number of white babies aborted in 2007 in New York City was 37,870–or 43.3 percent. 6,089, or 7 percent, were babies of other races, according to the report.

Libfreeordie screams SUCCESS !!!!!

Never enough.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:17 AM

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM,
were the 2nd 9/11 attacks caused by a movie or pre-meditated? Since you are a member of the “reality” based community I am curious about your answer.

rob verdi on September 30, 2012 at 10:17 AM

I think the rate of abortion in the black community speaks to the number of black women who feel they are unprepared to raise a child. Which certainly says something about the way society supports motherhood.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:16 AM

Not really an answer.

I know the blood in trade for your social agenda just makes you feel wonderful. You’re one sick puppy.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Anyone who places ANY weight upon any polls at this point in time is being played, IMHO.
I’d even say that if they said Romney was running away with it.
statistics or historical trends or evidence gives me a downer

pambi on September 30, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Fixed that for you.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Libfee I realize you almost never really answer a question. It it kind of entertaining but in reality it is very dishonest.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:18 AM

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM,
were the 2nd 9/11 attacks caused by a movie or pre-meditated? Since you are a member of the “reality” based community I am curious about your answer.

rob verdi on September 30, 2012 at 10:17 AM

Clearly pre-meditated. Next question.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Why do you not understand this basic fact. The existence of a passionate pro-Romney crowd in a swing state is absolutely NO EVIDENCE that Romney will win the state. None.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:12 AM

Oh but my dear professor, it wasn’t the pro-Romney crowd I wanted to draw your attention to. It was the pro-Obama crowd shown at the end – all 10 of them.

You didn’t follow my instructions, did you?

Flora Duh on September 30, 2012 at 10:19 AM

I think the rate of abortion in the black community speaks to the number of black women who feel they are unprepared to raise a child. Which certainly says something about the way society supports motherhood.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:16 AM

I think what you really mean to say is that far too many people, even more so blacks, are more interested in physical pleasure than the lives of their OWN kids. You support a sick mindset. You’re ill.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Libfee I realize you almost never really answer a question. It it kind of entertaining but in reality it is very dishonest.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:18 AM

You ask dishonest questions. Responding directly to a question from you is like responding to someone who asks, “when did you stop beating your wife?”

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:20 AM

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM,
were the 2nd 9/11 attacks caused by a movie or pre-meditated? Since you are a member of the “reality” based community I am curious about your answer.

rob verdi on September 30, 2012 at 10:17 AM

Clearly pre-meditated. Next question.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:19 AM

And the Obama admin’s narrative as well msm coverage, any comments?

rob verdi on September 30, 2012 at 10:21 AM

http://youtu.be/5k79sFwnPAs

Be sure to watch all the way to the end to appreciate the full impact.

Flora Duh on September 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Flora Duh:SWEET,Lets ROLL:)

canopfor on September 30, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Oh but my dear professor, it wasn’t the pro-Romney crowd I wanted to draw your attention to. It was the pro-Obama crowd shown at the end – all 10 of them.

You didn’t follow my instructions, did you?

Flora Duh on September 30, 2012 at 10:19 AM

So rather than a preponderance of poll evidence, your proof that Obama is going to lose is that only 10 people showed up to counter protest a Romney campaign stop in Toledo. I mean…I don’t know, if that’s what you need to get by, more power to you.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:21 AM

The existence of a passionate pro-Romney crowd in a swing state is absolutely NO EVIDENCE that Romney will win the state. None.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:12 AM

How about the fact that Obama had to move his own party nomination acceptance speech from an 80,000 seat stadium to a 15,000 seat arena? And don’t tell us it was because of the weather, nobody believes that. Where are all the expansive crowd shots of Obama rallies this time? They’re keeping everything focused on the stage. The few times we’ve seen a photo that leaked out of an entire crowd it was tiny. He is speaking almost exclusively on college campuses this year. Even Bruce Springsteen isn’t doing anything for him, instead he has only the aging slut Madonna and washed up Sarah Jessica Parker endorsing him. He was forced to endorse gay marriage and lose North Carolina as a result, because the gay Hollywood money was drying up. His campaign is hiring protesters to show up at Romney events, and then they do dumb things like the ObamaPhone lady.

There is no groundswell for Obama this year. None. Mitt Romney may not have sealed the deal yet, for sure, but you have to know that the Obama campaign is running on fumes at this point.

rockmom on September 30, 2012 at 10:23 AM

And the Obama admin’s narrative

Lies, fairy tales and fallacies. You probably don’t follow me on twitter, but if you did you would know how much shade I threw on the Administration for going with this “it was because of a movie” malarky.

as well msm coverage, any comments?

rob verdi on September 30, 2012 at 10:21 AM

I think the MSM’s lack of coverage of this issue reflects Americans lack of interest in the issue. This is the most isolationist electorate in a very long time, the polls all reflect people are war-fatigued and War on Terror fatigued in particular. No doubt the MSM has noticed that links about Romney’s 47% line gets more clicks than links about Libya. They are in the business of selling clicks and getting viewers, and how they cover stories responds to those market demands, not any political agenda.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:24 AM

What a mess. Can’t take a simple Sunday morning stroll through the thread without stepping in troll crap.

novaculus on September 30, 2012 at 10:24 AM

AMBASSADOR CHRIS STEVENS IS DEAD;
AL-QAEDA IS ALIVE

albill on September 30, 2012 at 10:24 AM

think the rate of abortion in the black community speaks to the number of black women who feel they are unprepared to raise a child. Which certainly says something about the way society supports motherhood.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:16 AM

Motherhood? Teenagers having multiple babies isn’t “motherhood,” and you’re attempts to pretty up the disaster that is teen, unwed pregnancy as something out of a Lifetime movie is disgusting. It is a disaster — for the child that gives birth, for the child being born, and for the nation that has to foot the bill. If “society” is responsible for that, then “society” should be able to remove those children who have no chance in life from the moment of their birth so they can be given at least a small chance. The vast majority of them would be better off in a Catholic orphanage from the old days than in the homes they are raised in.

Rational Thought on September 30, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Obama now up 5 in Rasmussen’s swing state poll.

LANDSLIDE

gumbyandpokey on September 30, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Yup, I think a woman or a gay person will be elected President before a morbidly obese person.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:06 AM

…I think we’ve already had one of the two.

KOOLAID2 on September 30, 2012 at 10:27 AM

I think the MSM’s lack of coverage of this issue reflects Americans lack of interest in the issue. This is the most isolationist electorate in a very long time, the polls all reflect people are war-fatigued and War on Terror fatigued in particular. No doubt the MSM has noticed that links about Romney’s 47% line gets more clicks than links about Libya. They are in the business of selling clicks and getting viewers, and how they cover stories responds to those market demands, not any political agenda.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:24 AM

If foreign policy is irrelevant did the msm focus on Romney’s comments?

rob verdi on September 30, 2012 at 10:27 AM

I think the MSM’s lack of coverage of this issue reflects Americans lack of interest in the issue. This is the most isolationist electorate in a very long time, the polls all reflect people are war-fatigued and War on Terror fatigued in particular. No doubt the MSM has noticed that links about Romney’s 47% line gets more clicks than links about Libya. They are in the business of selling clicks and getting viewers, and how they cover stories responds to those market demands, not any political agenda.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Then how do you explain the media’s grotesque 3-day orgy over a statement made by Mitt Romney after the 9/11 attacks? It was freaking SEPTEMBER 11, do you think America is really tuned out to radical Muslim attacks on Americans on that day? Give me a break. The media SWARMED on Romney because they knew this attack was a disaster for their boyfriend and they had to change the subject, stat. And now they’re covering for the lies and coverups and running back to the horse race and Romney’s supposedly failing campaign.

rockmom on September 30, 2012 at 10:28 AM

How about the fact that Obama had to move his own party nomination acceptance speech from an 80,000 seat stadium to a 15,000 seat arena? And don’t tell us it was because of the weather, nobody believes that.

I certainly didn’t buy it. The 80,000 seat stadium was a ridiculous, arrogant decision. As the Dowager Countess might say, one should not hold one’s convention in the state one barely won in 2008. But, again, the 80,000 seat thing was also a bit much in 2008, but it was built upon this ecstatic love affair the American people were having with Obama (and really with what they imagined he represented). And for the record, even I am surprised at how well he is polling in North Carolina right now, I suspect when it comes down to it he won’t win. But here’s the problem for you all. North Carolina shouldn’t be a swing state. It wasn’t close in 2000 or 2004 and the fact that its polling so close now is a bad bell weather for the entire Romney campaign. Again, if you want to take his inability to do a version of a Convention speech that only HE has done in the past, well OK then take joy in it. But its just not persuasive.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:28 AM

If foreign policy is irrelevant why did the msm focus on Romney’s comments?

rob verdi on September 30, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Obama now up 5 in Rasmussen’s swing state poll.

LANDSLIDE

gumbyandpokey on September 30, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Obama’s at 48%.

So, you’re right. Romney 52, Obama 48 would be a landslide!!!

faraway on September 30, 2012 at 10:28 AM

CBS’ Face the Nation: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie; Newt Gingrich; Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN); Larry Sabato, University of Virginia; Robert Shrum, Republican strategist; Bob Woodward, Washington Post; Mark Zandi, Moody Analytics; Michelle Rhee, former DC Chancellor of Schools; Hedrick Smith, journalist

Given Shrum’s record in Presidential elections, I guess that isn’t a typo.

fitzfong on September 30, 2012 at 10:29 AM

Obama now up 5 in Rasmussen’s swing state poll.

LANDSLIDE

gumbyandpokey on September 30, 2012 at 10:26 AM

…poll…pole…poll…yankmypole…poll…pole…poll…playwithmypole…poll…pole…poll…pole…orgasmicpoll…pole… poll…….

KOOLAID2 on September 30, 2012 at 10:29 AM

What a mess. Can’t take a simple Sunday morning stroll through the thread without stepping in troll crap.

novaculus on September 30, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Don’t be distracted by the trolls, they are out in force on all the blogs trying to convince us this race is over. It isn’t. Work, call, donate.

rockmom on September 30, 2012 at 10:29 AM

Pardon me,
If foreign policy is irrelevant why did the msm focus on Romney’s comments about the american embassy’s response to the the film?

rob verdi on September 30, 2012 at 10:29 AM

Couldn’t we just ignore the troll? Its not very smart nor interesting.

gh on September 30, 2012 at 10:31 AM

If “society” is responsible for that, then “society” should be able to remove those children who have no chance in life from the moment of their birth so they can be given at least a small chance. The vast majority of them would be better off in a Catholic orphanage from the old days than in the homes they are raised in.

Rational Thought on September 30, 2012 at 10:25 AM

The Dowager Countess wonders how one can claim the authority to dictate to a woman who is with child whilst disavowing all obligation to the child once it comes into this world?

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:31 AM

You probably don’t follow me on twitter, but if you did you would know how much shade I threw on the Administration for going with this “it was because of a movie” malarky.

Why was the administration( and MSM) pushing “it was the movie” spin? Why did they spend 70g to affirm “it was the movie” on ads in Pakistan? Why did Obama re-affirm that “it was a movie” at the UN?

Why push the absurd narrative that this cheap 15 minute youtube post was the root of the worlds troubles?

BTW this was after our ambassador and 3 others hit that bump in the road.
BTW,you might have some insight, why did the whole O admin start calling Mohamed “the Prophet”? Seems pretty weird to me, given that they are all at best agnostic.

The Prophet BoxHead

BoxHead1 on September 30, 2012 at 10:32 AM

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Not much of an answer. I knew calling out your dishonesty would bring a fallacious answer. You’re awfully good at that.

Sleep well knowing you enable the wholesale slaughter of innocents and especially black children. God knows the availability of Food Stamps, WIC, Medicaid and numerous other programs does not support your rationalization of the daily killing of unborn children. You’re ill .

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:33 AM

The Dowager Countess wonders how one can claim the authority to dictate to a woman who is with child whilst disavowing all obligation to the child once it comes into this world?

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Yikes. Terrible dodge. You can do better.

Rational Thought on September 30, 2012 at 10:34 AM

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Changing a post to accentuate the comment is one thing.
To change it to mean the opposite is not appreciated.

I meant what I said, and still do.

pambi on September 30, 2012 at 10:35 AM

The Dowager Countess wonders how one can claim the authority to dictate to a woman who is with child whilst disavowing all obligation to the child once it comes into this world?

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:31 AM

God knows the availability of Food Stamps, WIC, Medicaid and numerous other programs does not support your rationalization of the daily killing of unborn children.

LIBFREE you are just so full of shite.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Libfree wants to pretend that society and all its social programs do not exist. What a friggin liar.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:37 AM

Well congrats! But so do lots of other people and their/our sense of what the nation should be will eventually surpass and overtake yours if for no other reason than you’re old and we’re not. Its called generational change, the hysteria around it is more amusing than anything.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 9:58 AM

…for a prof you’re sort of stupid!…I know plenty of people in their 20′s and 30′s…different exposures

KOOLAID2 on September 30, 2012 at 10:37 AM

For those looking for a silver lining, Rasmussen inexplicably includes Pennsylvania and Michigan in his “swing state poll.” States he has also already found double digit leads for Obama.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:38 AM

Noot!

Philly on September 30, 2012 at 10:39 AM

Libfree lives in a world where there are know private charities that help families every single day.

Libfree, if not dishonest, is just plain delusional.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:39 AM

Libfree ordie wants to pretend that society and all its social programs do not exist. What a friggin liar.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:37 AM

FIFY.

gh on September 30, 2012 at 10:41 AM

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:38 AM,
If the media ignored the embassy because foreign policy means little to the country, why the msm focus on Romney’s comments after the attacks?

rob verdi on September 30, 2012 at 10:41 AM

For those looking for a silver lining, Rasmussen inexplicably includes Pennsylvania and Michigan in his “swing state poll.” States he has also already found double digit leads for Obama.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:38 AM

Thanks for making my point.

pambi on September 30, 2012 at 10:41 AM

God knows the availability of Food Stamps, WIC, Medicaid and numerous other programs does not support your rationalization of the daily killing of unborn children.

LIBFREE you are just so full of shite.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Guess who knows/sees the most evidence of what its like to try and survive on those programs. Impoverished women of color. So lets try again to think about why they may be the most willing to pursue abortions.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:42 AM

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:38 AM,
If the media ignored the embassy because foreign policy means little to the country, why the msm focus on Romney’s comments after the attacks?

rob verdi on September 30, 2012 at 10:41 AM

Did they? It was a major story for 48 hours? There’s been consistent, if not hysertical, coverage of Middle East violence.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:44 AM

I will ask again:

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:38 AM,
If the media ignored the embassy because foreign policy means little to the country, why the msm focus on Romney’s comments after the attacks?

rob verdi on September 30, 2012 at 10:41 AM

rob verdi on September 30, 2012 at 10:44 AM

libfree is right. There’s really no reason for most dems to vote in Ohio and PA since Obama is going to have a landslide victory

faraway on September 30, 2012 at 10:45 AM

…hey turdfreeordie! …take a moment out of your frenzy…and vote for the Obamateurism of the week…like to see your pick for once…

KOOLAID2 on September 30, 2012 at 10:47 AM

faraway on September 30, 2012 at 10:45 AM

+1

cmsinaz on September 30, 2012 at 10:47 AM

libfreeordie said this:

I think the MSM’s lack of coverage of this issue reflects Americans lack of interest in the issue. This is the most isolationist electorate in a very long time, the polls all reflect people are war-fatigued and War on Terror fatigued in particular. No doubt the MSM has noticed that links about Romney’s 47% line gets more clicks than links about Libya. They are in the business of selling clicks and getting viewers, and how they cover stories responds to those market demands, not any political agenda.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Now libfree is saying this:

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:38 AM,
If the media ignored the embassy because foreign policy means little to the country, why the msm focus on Romney’s comments after the attacks?

rob verdi on September 30, 2012 at 10:41 AM

Did they? It was a major story for 48 hours? There’s been consistent, if not hysertical, coverage of Middle East violenc
e.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Which one is it and I would like your opinion about the admins blaming the movie for the attacks.

rob verdi on September 30, 2012 at 10:48 AM

Guess who knows/sees the most evidence of what its like to try and survive on those programs. Impoverished women of color. So lets try again to think about why they may be the most willing to pursue abortions.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:42 AM

You keep spinning now. You’re awfully good at that.

I already told you one reason why but you seemed to ignore it. Add to that I know at least one poster above who also chimed in..but you ignored that.

Hmmm

You keep sleeping well knowing that black babies are being slaughter with your and the left’s support. You’re really just gross. You really are a puke.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:49 AM

You probably don’t follow me on twitter, but if you did you would know how much shade I threw on the Administration for going with this “it was because of a movie” malarky.
lib

Why they go with “the movie”, lib? You bravely threw shade at the malarky so you must have an idea. After all, it’s not every day that an ambassador and 3 others are brutally murdered and the sec of state responds with outrage over an amateur video project. Why did Obama go that route, lib? For the last several 1000 years an ambassador’s murder has been treated as an act of war. It’s not usually considered a little bump in a road.

BoxHead1 on September 30, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Christie up on ABC now.

Philly on September 30, 2012 at 10:02 AM

And on NBC

Philly on September 30, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Sadly for all the good christie did he really blew it when stuffy stephy asked him if the polls were biased and he said no. what a dud!! He needs to stay away from the twinkies and read a little more about what we do here on the net.

rodguy911 on September 30, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Which one is it and I would like your opinion about the admins blaming the movie for the attacks.

rob verdi on September 30, 2012 at 10:48 AM

…he never can get his shitstraight for more than half an hour!

KOOLAID2 on September 30, 2012 at 10:51 AM

I think the MSM’s lack of coverage of this issue ….
libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Did they? It was a major story for 48 hours? …
libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Which one is it and I would like your opinion about the admins blaming the movie for the attacks.

rob verdi on September 30, 2012 at 10:48 AM

Here is the answer:

There are two people posting under Libfreeordies nic this A.M.
Notice how often there are posts and the nature of the posts(like the polling info.). That is not our normal beloved LForDie.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:52 AM

an ambassador’s murder has been treated as an act of war. It’s not usually considered a little bump in a road.

BoxHead1 on September 30, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Libfreeordie loves blood as long as it advances his political agenda…including gay mirage.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:53 AM

The Dowager Countess wonders how one can claim the authority to dictate to a woman who is with child whilst disavowing all obligation to the child once it comes into this world?

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Yeah, Dowager Countess, that used to be my thinking as well. Until I grew up, met childless couples – part of what you call ‘society’ who desperately wanted children ( or more children) and couldn’t have them and could not adopt domestically because there were no babies to adopt or because they didn’t qualify – wrong race, too ‘old’, no deep pockets for lawyers, home studies, etc.

Then I had a child of my own. That is what opened my eyes to horrible parenting around me. All the money in the world will not help a child with disinterested parents.

‘Society’ as you put it does not disavow any child. Stupid parents do.

Just as a final note, Libfree, you have a peculiarly passionless, intellectual way of arguing on this subject. This is common to those who see unborn children as objects or possessions, not real people.

Mitsouko on September 30, 2012 at 10:54 AM

Hey Libfree riddle me this, How many black mothers would continue to abort their babies if they had to pay 100% out of pocket?

Nuff Ced!

D-fusit on September 30, 2012 at 10:55 AM

Just as a final note, Libfree, you have a peculiarly passionless, intellectual way of arguing on this subject. This is common to those who see unborn children as objects or possessions, not real people.

Mitsouko on September 30, 2012 at 10:54 AM

Eloquently put and right on target.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:56 AM

So rather than a preponderance of poll evidence, your proof that Obama is going to lose is that only 10 people showed up to counter protest a Romney campaign stop in Toledo. I mean…I don’t know, if that’s what you need to get by, more power to you.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:21 AM

That’s weak sauce.

fossten on September 30, 2012 at 10:57 AM

So rather than a preponderance of poll evidence, your proof that Obama is going to lose is that only 10 people showed up to counter protest a Romney campaign stop in Toledo. I mean…I don’t know, if that’s what you need to get by, more power to you.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:21 AM

This is libfreeordie’s lover posting.This is not the one we normally see post.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Chris Christie telegraphed the party line today in his appearances. Not controversial. Newt was more sassy, naturally. You can’t control Newt; you can only hope to contain him, and that would be quite a chore.

Philly on September 30, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Libfreeordie loves blood as long as it advances his political agenda…including gay mirage.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 10:53 AM

Not all blood. He doesn’t mind late term abortions but I’m sure he was outraged over cop killer Mamia abul Jamal’s death sentence.

BoxHead1 on September 30, 2012 at 10:59 AM

More Newt on the Face the Nation panel.

Philly on September 30, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Libfree and whoever is posting with him are off to brunch now chuckling about their tired worn out talking points with their gay buddies . Libfree will drink away the thought of all the lives of those black children that he helps to snuff out.

CW on September 30, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Mark Zandi, Obama butt-kisser (aka Liar)

Philly on September 30, 2012 at 11:02 AM

Guess who knows/sees the most evidence of what its like to try and survive on those programs. Impoverished women of color. So lets try again to think about why they may be the most willing to pursue abortions.

libfreeordie on September 30, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Those would be teenagers of color, and in many cases pre-teens of color. Let’s call this what it is: babies having babies, frequently as the result of statutory rape. Stop with the “motherhood” and the “women” nonsense. Lipstick…pigs…and all of that.

Rational Thought on September 30, 2012 at 11:04 AM

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