Chris Christie not really into the whole ‘downplaying debate expectations’ game

posted at 6:31 pm on September 30, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Both the Obama and Romney camps have been pretty actively engaged in trying to set a low bar for their respective candidates for the upcoming presidential debates starting this week. Adding on to the ‘President Obama has had no time to prepare and Mitt Romney is a simply fantastic debater’ rhetorical dogpile, the DNC let it be known that they believe Mitt Romney will indeed be the victor of the first debate:

Woodhouse says the way the DNC sees it, challengers win the first debate when they are up against incumbents.

“Mitt Romney has had a lot more time to debate, the president has not debated in the past four years in terms, of a campaign debate. I think the president will hold his own, but he’s not known for sound bites. And these are 60 second, 90 second responses.”

Obama adviser David Plouffe said much the same thing on ABC this morning: “[Romney]‘s been a good debater in the past, he’s very prepared, he’s all these clever zingers and lines in his pocket, so we understand he’ll probably have a good night on Wednesday night,” he said.

Funnily enough, Republican New Jersey Governor Chris Christie would pretty much agree that statement.

We have a candidate who is going to do extraordinarily well on Wednesday night. … I’ve seen Mitt Romney do this before. He’s gonna’ come in Wednesday night, he’s going to lay out his vision for America, he’s going to contrast what his view is and what the president’s record is, and the president’ view for the future, and this whole race is going to turn upside down come Thursday morning. … What he’s going to be doing on Wednesday night is not going to be filtered by anybody. … The American people are going to get 90 minutes to look these two men right in the eye in their living rooms, and make a judgment on their vision for the future…

As Jazz already wondered earlier today, it remains to be seen whether or not people will actually tune into the debates en masse and, if they do, whether anything short of some revelatory bombshell will actually manage to move the needle in either direction. But, as Christie points out, maybe Team Romney should have a little more reason to show some more confidence — wouldn’t want to get cocky or anything, but when paired face-to-face with President Obama’s distraction-peddling, Mitt Romney’s big-picture free-market vision has truth and righteousness on its side. If he can lay it out correctly, then win the “domestic issues” debate, he shall.


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What needs to be talked up is that Obama will use false and misleading statements like he always does.

Count to 10 on September 30, 2012 at 6:34 PM

Im not much of a Christie fan, but Im with him here: This is one of the most dishonest, dumbest anual political rituals we have to suffer through. Its based on the assumption that we’re all braindead and do not notice when campaigns that for months did nothing but excoriate their opponent, suddenly start to talk him up.

Valkyriepundit on September 30, 2012 at 6:39 PM

The moderator will not let that happen.

txmomof6 on September 30, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Christie’s interests are not the same as those of the Republican Party, the conservative movement, the Romney campaign, or myself. Downplaying expectations for Romney and talking up expectations for Obama is EXACTLY what we need to do. Always under promise and over perform. Christie is interested in being the truth teller and straight shooter and beyond partisanship guy because that will benefit HIM.

D0WNT0WN on September 30, 2012 at 6:42 PM

I’m sure the DNC and the moderators have sat down and figured out their strategy.

Philly on September 30, 2012 at 6:43 PM

Start out by asking how increase his percentage in poles is actually a dip and losing.

Math is haaaaaard.

LoganSix on September 30, 2012 at 6:43 PM

Someone should frisk Obama when he gets to the podium to see that he’s not wearing a receiver in his ear to get prompting from offstage.

thatsafactjack on September 30, 2012 at 6:44 PM

I just pray that Romney is really gonna take it to Obama. He needs to lay out his vision but also be aggressive and call Obama out on his lies.

Jack_Burton on September 30, 2012 at 6:46 PM

What a tool bringing up Bill Kristol and Peggy Noonan. They are just useful idiots.

earlgrey133 on September 30, 2012 at 6:47 PM

Start out by asking how increase his percentage in poles is actually a dip and losing.
Math is haaaaaard.
LoganSix on September 30, 2012 at 6:43 PM

Apparently so is English.

rjl1999 on September 30, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Since the liberal media is doing the moderating, more than likely Barry already has all the questions for the debates.

I do hope that Barry has the “uh…uh…uh…uh…uhs” going.

albill on September 30, 2012 at 6:51 PM

I’m sure the DNC and the moderators have sat down and figured out their strategy.

Philly on September 30, 2012 at 6:43 PM

…I think you are right! People will be getting in touch with each others people…but Romney’s people won’t be involved.
Remember Georgie Porgie asking the condom question during the Republican primary debates.

KOOLAID2 on September 30, 2012 at 6:51 PM

Someone should frisk Obama when he gets to the podium to see that he’s not wearing a receiver in his ear to get prompting from offstage.

thatsafactjack on September 30, 2012 at 6:44 PM

I’d be more inclined to have someone in the Republican green room with a scanner to find the frequency of said device then feed audio feedback at a high frequency and dB level into it. But then, I’m just evil that way.

AZfederalist on September 30, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Lowered Expectations

Starring Eddie Murphy, as Obama.

Key West Reader on September 30, 2012 at 6:55 PM

We have a candidate who is going to do extraordinarily well on Wednesday night. … I’ve seen Mitt Romney do this before. He’s gonna’ come in Wednesday night, he’s going to lay out his vision for America, he’s going to contrast what his view is and what the president’s record is, and the president’ view for the future, and this whole race is going to turn upside down come Thursday morning. … What he’s going to be doing on Wednesday night is not going to be filtered by anybody. … The American people are going to get 90 minutes to look these two men right in the eye in their living rooms, and make a judgment on their vision for the future…

Good for Christie! I’m sick of these people trying to manage expectations, i.e., manipulate us. The is well past the time for more BS. Romney has to bring his A-game, lay out his vision, and kick Obama’s bony ass. Romney is fully well capable of doing beating Obama; he just has to get out there and do it.

ghostwriter on September 30, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Biggest problem will be that the moderators are all Obama supporters and subsequent MSM reports and soundbites will play Obama up and talk Romney’s performance down. The only good news is that Gallup poll showing that the Americans who matter (everybody but 58% of the democrats to trust the media) will give much credence to the media reports.

AZfederalist on September 30, 2012 at 6:56 PM

I’d be more inclined to have someone in the Republican green room with a scanner to find the frequency of said device then feed audio feedback at a high frequency and dB level into it. But then, I’m just evil that way.

AZfederalist on September 30, 2012 at 6:53 PM

LOL! The Dems are teh ones that like to complain about dog whistles…

ghostwriter on September 30, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Biggest problem will be that the moderators are all Obama supporters and subsequent MSM reports and soundbites will play Obama up and talk Romney’s performance down. The only good news is that Gallup poll showing that the Americans who matter (everybody but 58% of the democrats to trust the media) will give much credence to the media reports.

AZfederalist on September 30, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Romney is smarter than the meida types. He should be able to handle them. Romney just needs to go around the moderator, and pound on Obama the way he did with Newt.

ghostwriter on September 30, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Since the liberal media is doing the moderating, more than likely Barry already has all the questions for the debates.

I do hope that Barry has the “uh…uh…uh…uh…uhs” going.

albill on September 30, 2012 at 6:51 PM

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Actually, I supect it goes beyond this. I think the regime has told the moderators the questions they should must ask.

diogenes on September 30, 2012 at 6:58 PM

I’d be more inclined to have someone in the Republican green room with a scanner to find the frequency of said device then feed audio feedback at a high frequency and dB level into it. But then, I’m just evil that way.

AZfederalist on September 30, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Hah! “Yes, I do believe that the Iranian mullahs like to have pudding at night just like me, and more importantly, let me be clear, paper plates and toilet brushes should be the expectations of all world leaders”

Key West Reader on September 30, 2012 at 6:59 PM

It’s not easy practicing debate skills on the golf course.

RoadRunner on September 30, 2012 at 7:01 PM

…I think you are right! People will be getting in touch with each others people…but Romney’s people won’t be involved.
Remember Georgie Porgie asking the condom question during the Republican primary debates.

KOOLAID2 on September 30, 2012 at 6:51 PM

I don’t think Stephanopoulos needed to coordinate with anyone for that. George started his career working for Democratic Rep. Ed Feighan … then he worked for Michael Dukakis’s campaign … then he worked for Dick Gephardt … then he worked for the Bill Clinton campaign and was a top advisor to Clinton through his first term. There’s no surprise that he would ask questions from a liberal point of view. The surprise is why that kind of resume gets someone to moderate a Republican debate.

The next time NBC News sponsors a Republican debate, who are they going to have as the moderator — their special correspondent Chelsea Clinton?

J.S.K. on September 30, 2012 at 7:05 PM

If he can lay it out correctly, then win the “domestic issues” debate, he shall.

Huge if.

So far his message has been muddeled to describe it in the best terms possible.

He says he will increase oil/nat gas production without critizing the EPA.

He says he will help business but at the same time tells them he will eliminate their deductions raising their taxes to pay for a tax cut for the middle class.

His Five Point plan is something every President in the last 40 years has promised and not delievered on.

Steveangell on September 30, 2012 at 7:09 PM

Mr. Christie may be right. Still wish he were the one debating Wednesday night.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on September 30, 2012 at 7:10 PM

OT

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/30/us-iraq-securityviolence-idUSBRE88T03420120930

Chalk up another success story of Barry’s foreign policies.

bayview on September 30, 2012 at 7:12 PM

So, what can Zero say that hasn’t already bored folks to utter distraction ??
Oh, yeah ! Silly me !!
This is about DOMESTIC policy, this first one !!
VERY clear distinctions, so Mitt will be be demonized beyond belief because he wants to take away all of the goodies, while Zero promises them MORE freebies !! Just hang in there, Mitt !!
Had an FBer tell everyone that if Romney gets in, he’ll force creationism to be taught in all schools, and toss out all references to Darwin’s evolution theorem !! Just today !! OY, the stupidity out there !!

Oh, well..

pambi on September 30, 2012 at 7:12 PM

“Mitt Romney has had a lot more time to debate, the president has not debated in the past four years in terms, of a campaign debate. I think the president will hold his own, but he’s not known for sound bites.

All that Obysmal has done since 2007 is talk…and talk…and talk. Yet he says nothing but soundbites and platitudes.

Romney has the fact and the knowledge at his fingertips. These come from real-world experience and success, not memorization and coaching.

Watch the premises on which the moderator’s questions are based. They are an attempt to shape the “narrative.” Romney needs to plow right through the premise by ignoring it and then make the points that he wishes to emphasize.

Obysmal has made a career of ignoring the premise of his questioners and then responding with a lot of marshmallow fluff (or is that Plouffe?).

onlineanalyst on September 30, 2012 at 7:12 PM

I will tune in and watch oba-mao be destroyed. However, if Romney softballs that idiot at all, I will turn it off in disgust.

ultracon on September 30, 2012 at 7:17 PM

OT

Chalk up another success story of Barry’s foreign policies.

bayview on September 30, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Gurantee you Obama does consider that success.

We are just starting to see Obama’s true agenda start. In other news Egypt is meeting with Turkey to plan on Militarily taking down Assad in Syria.

Obama is on the side of Al Queda. He is Osama Bin Ladens replacement in many ways. The political Jihad and the Terrorist Jihad are starting to combine.

Steveangell on September 30, 2012 at 7:17 PM

Chris Christie was spectacular on Meet the Press this morning. Every time David Gregory tried to pound Mitt Romney, Christie came back by pointing out the president’s greater shortcomings on every single issue discussed. It was good to see some confidence on Romney’s side, for a change.

The Bringer on September 30, 2012 at 7:21 PM

Gurantee you Obama does consider that success.

We are just starting to see Obama’s true agenda start. In other news Egypt is meeting with Turkey to plan on Militarily taking down Assad in Syria.

Obama is on the side of Al Queda. He is Osama Bin Ladens replacement in many ways. The political Jihad and the Terrorist Jihad are starting to combine.

Steveangell on September 30, 2012 at 7:17 PM

You really are so full of crap. People like you with your ridiculous theories make the rest of us look bad.

ghostwriter on September 30, 2012 at 7:21 PM

OT -apparently, that Univision broadcast needs you to set your TV to receive subtitles.
Just a heads up.

pambi on September 30, 2012 at 7:21 PM

Sorry Christ Christie….

……your dog don’t hunt in Possum Holler.

He’s a blowhard, who didn’t have the fire in the belly to try and save the country by trying to defeat Obama. And the same goes for Palin who also took a pass.

These politicians that didn’t have the guts to run in 2012 shouldn’t be shooting off their mouths off about how bad Obama is and how the sky is falling in 2013, 2014 or 2015 when they didn’t have the guts to run themselves. Heave.

And as someone else said earlier it won’t matter if Mitt wins or not on Wednesday night. The media will pick some supposed “gaffe” and highlight that. After all…….they are democrat traitors to the republic.

PappyD61 on September 30, 2012 at 7:22 PM

Watch the premises on which the moderator’s questions are based. They are an attempt to shape the “narrative.” Romney needs to plow right through the premise by ignoring it and then make the points that he wishes to emphasize.

onlineanalyst on September 30, 2012 at 7:12 PM

Yes. That’s what he needs to do. But it’s what he’s needed to do for months. He’s never been able to do it, in day-to-day politics or in debates. So which is more likely — that he’ll perform similarly to how he’s performed in all previous cases, or that he’ll do something entirely uncharacteristic and shocking.

rrpjr on September 30, 2012 at 7:22 PM

Chris Christie was spectacular on Meet the Press this morning. Every time David Gregory tried to pound Mitt Romney, Christie came back by pointing out the president’s greater shortcomings on every single issue discussed. It was good to see some confidence on Romney’s side, for a change.

The Bringer on September 30, 2012 at 7:21 PM

Sunnunu also has been a brilliant spokesman for Romney.

ghostwriter on September 30, 2012 at 7:22 PM

Jugears will clear the questions ahead of time and the “moderators” will use pejorative language in dealing with Romney. Saw somewhere that the Romney camp was compiling a list of “zingers” for him to use. How do you do that??? Zingers are off the cuff and depend on timing, delivery, tone, etc. How do you memorize that?

retiredeagle on September 30, 2012 at 7:25 PM

And as someone else said earlier it won’t matter if Mitt wins or not on Wednesday night. The media will pick some supposed “gaffe” and highlight that. After all…….they are democrat traitors to the republic.

PappyD61 on September 30, 2012 at 7:22 PM

That’s loser talk. If Romney does a good enough job, many in the press will turn on Obama to save their reputations, such as they are.

ghostwriter on September 30, 2012 at 7:25 PM

I’ll be expecting Romney to try to out-do McCain in being pleasant and nicey nice to Obama………

………..and then if I hear the word “MEAN-SPIRITED” from the commentators afterwards I know Mitt did fine and went after the jugular.

PappyD61 on September 30, 2012 at 7:26 PM

And as someone else said earlier it won’t matter if Mitt wins or not on Wednesday night. The media will pick some supposed “gaffe” and highlight that. After all…….they are democrat traitors to the republic.

PappyD61 on September 30, 2012 at 7:22 PM

If Christie were really smart and really working for the team, he’d be talking up the media’s intention to do what you described. Who on the republican side is playing this expectations game? No one that I’ve seen or heard. Because we’re not smart, and apparently not capable of learning.

rrpjr on September 30, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Mitt needs to have a sister Souljah brother Newt moment with the moderator. Make the moderator(s) obsolete from the jump!

SouthernGent on September 30, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Romney need to ignore the moderator and put Obama on the spot by asking him questions that the moderator would never dare to ask.
Romney needs to understand that it is most likely that Obama has been provided with the questions and has been colluding with the moderator.
Obama cannot handle it when he actually has to answer a difficult question because he is used to being interviewed by star struck adoring media fans.

NeoKong on September 30, 2012 at 7:27 PM

I’ve seen Mitt Romney do this before. He’s gonna’ come in Wednesday night, he’s going to lay out his vision for America, he’s going to contrast what his view is and what the president’s record is, and the president’ view for the future, and this whole race is going to turn upside down come Thursday morning.

Mitt also has to show an awareness of how Obysmal’s policies have negatively affected the wallets of the American voter in concrete terms. Just a few examples such as the difference in the cost of gasoline, of a loaf of bread or a gallon of milk since Obysmal took office can demonstrate the point quite well. (“Every dollar spent in filling the car’s gas tank is that much less available to feed one’s family.”) Pointing out the loss of real income (with median figures) and the lessening of spending power of the dollar will make sense to the average voter. Noting to senior citizens how their nest egg has plummeted in the last four years will have the viewers nodding in agreement.

Follow these examples with a quick easy-to-understand remedy for turning around this devaluing of our money should do the trick. Emphasizing that the American tradition is that we citizens prefer that we, not the government, should determine how our dollars are spent should bring the argument back to economic freedom and its role in creating jobs.

onlineanalyst on September 30, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Jugears will clear the questions ahead of time and the “moderators” will use pejorative language in dealing with Romney. Saw somewhere that the Romney camp was compiling a list of “zingers” for him to use. How do you do that??? Zingers are off the cuff and depend on timing, delivery, tone, etc. How do you memorize that?

retiredeagle on September 30, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Obama has a lot of predictable tendencies in his rhetoric. It should be fairly straightforward to have about 10 to 15 timely rejoinders in the can with which to smack Obama (e.g., Cheney’s zinger on Edwards’ Senate attendance was pre-planned).

ghostwriter on September 30, 2012 at 7:27 PM

OT .. Go to the Univision trailer thread for comments as they watch.

pambi on September 30, 2012 at 7:32 PM

“Romney needs to do this, Romney needs to do that.” We’re all urging and recommending because we know, deep down, that Romney has never done any of these things before and that there is very little likelihood of him doing any of them on Wednesday. A more realistic hope is that he simply holds his own. But I’ll be just as delighted by a miracle as anybody else.

rrpjr on September 30, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Meh. I really thought Christie would be better as an attack dog, but he doesn’t show up unless he’s invited to show up. Romney can’t afford additional bad press, but every other Republican out there can. We all complain about how Romney isn’t bringing the fight, but we need to think of Romney as the solid and steady leader and the Christies, Gingrich, Demint, Guiliani, Trump, ALL the Republican governors, etc. etc. , as the attack dogs. And they are to a limited extent- for the most part, the MSM shuts them out. I saw the governor of Florida on FOX the other day, and he couldn’t have been a bigger wet blanket if he tried. I don’t like him.

BettyRuth on September 30, 2012 at 7:33 PM

I’d be more inclined to have someone in the Republican green room with a scanner to find the frequency of said device then feed audio feedback at a high frequency and dB level into it. But then, I’m just evil that way.

AZfederalist on September 30, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Not evil.
Fair play, but then again I don’t have any issues Belichick and spygate either.
Go Pats!

OTTO on September 30, 2012 at 7:33 PM

Romney: “Your backwards policies added 6, count them, 6 trillion dollars to the national debt. You have singlehandedly bankrupted our children and grandchildren. Your policies have hit the middle class the hardest. More people are on food stamps under your administration than ever in history. You have made “poor” the new normal.

Obama: “I killed Bin Laden”

Media: “President Obama had a decisive debate win over the seemingly hapless Mitt Romney on Wednesday night.

NOMOBO on September 30, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Obama cannot handle it when he actually has to answer a difficult question because he is used to being interviewed by star struck adoring media fans.

NeoKong on September 30, 2012 at 7:27 PM

This is true, and could be a powerful weapon if used. To not take advantage of it would be like knowing a fighters weak points and not exploiting them in order to look “fair” and admirable.

Mimzey on September 30, 2012 at 7:36 PM

“Mr. Pres, you took office in Jan 09 with gas at $1.89, the national debt at $10 trillion, unemployment at 7.5%, the deficit at $400 billion,2 wars and majority control the entire 4 yrs….if you couldn’t solve those numbers with your party, explain to the American people how you are going to solve it now with each of those numbers exponentially worse…the mic is yours for the next 90 mins, I am done”….exit stage right….

hillsoftx on September 30, 2012 at 7:39 PM

“The leading Republican voices, Peggy Noonan and Bill Kristol.”

Talk about living in a Washington bubble, to start with to all Republicans that pay attention to all things politics, these people are not leaders, they’re a joke. And to the rest of the Republicans and the population at large, they don’t even know who Noonan and Kristol are.

lowandslow on September 30, 2012 at 7:40 PM

“Romney needs to do this, Romney needs to do that.” We’re all urging and recommending because we know, deep down, that Romney has never done any of these things before and that there is very little likelihood of him doing any of them on Wednesday. A more realistic hope is that he simply holds his own. But I’ll be just as delighted by a miracle as anybody else.

rrpjr on September 30, 2012 at 7:33 PM

not true. Romney has come through in big debates in the past. Most recently, he creamed Gingrich in Florida, when his candidacy was in jeopardy. Romney has some clutch in him.

ghostwriter on September 30, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Romney: “Your backwards policies added 6, count them, 6 trillion dollars to the national debt. You have singlehandedly bankrupted our children and grandchildren. Your policies have hit the middle class the hardest. More people are on food stamps under your administration than ever in history. You have made “poor” the new normal.

Obama: “I killed Bin Laden”

Romney: “But you haven’t killed Al Qaeda. Your policies failed to prevent their attack on our Libyan diplomatic mission, and contributed to the death of a dedicated diplomat.”

Media: “President Obama had a decisive debate win over the seemingly hapless Mitt Romney on Wednesday night.

NOMOBO on September 30, 2012 at 7:34 PM

FIFY

ghostwriter on September 30, 2012 at 7:44 PM

NOMOBO on September 30, 2012 at 7:34 PM

Sadly, that’s what I expect from the MSM as well.

AZfederalist on September 30, 2012 at 7:44 PM

I,m under the impression that the first debate is to cover domestic policy.
Is that correct ??
What falls into that category ?
SSM ?? Welfare ?? obamacare ??

pambi on September 30, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Who in hell are these “undecided”? Only one who had suddenly awakened from a multiyear sleep and possessed the reasoning ability of an amoeba could be undecided at this point in time. The entire political process in this country is controlled by a few manipulative charlatans and the left wing media. The entire charade is nothing more than a deceitful farce. Obama and Romney will present their scripted, dull recitals and when it all ends the “undecided” will be as confused and lost as their were before it began. Enough, let’s get it over with . . . quickly.

rplat on September 30, 2012 at 7:46 PM

I,m under the impression that the first debate is to cover domestic policy.
Is that correct ??
What falls into that category ?
SSM ?? Welfare ?? obamacare ??

pambi on September 30, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Screw that. If Obama has the gall to bring up Bin Laden, Romney has to hit him on AQ’s recent attacks, growing strength, and the fact that they hoisted their flag over OUR embassy. People likely haven’t heard those details, and Romney needs to force the issue.

ghostwriter on September 30, 2012 at 7:48 PM

not true. Romney has come through in big debates in the past.

ghostwriter on September 30, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Against conservatives. And even in those debates, he did not do the things being recommended here.

rrpjr on September 30, 2012 at 7:50 PM

The debates are a waste of time, nobody is wondering who they’re voting for, you’re either a communist / Marxist sympathizer or you’re not. And the sad thing is that Mitt has enough of the communist qualities that truthfully voting for him is only gong to slow our slide into the newest third world country, not stop it.

KMC1 on September 30, 2012 at 7:52 PM

OT .. Go to the Univision trailer thread for comments as they watch.

pambi on September 30, 2012 at 7:32 PM

The Univision report does not have English subtitles. Every website that has the ABC videos has Access Denied/Script Errors on all 3 of my computers. I’ve never been able to logon/post/or do anything on the Uninvision that HA had/has up.

I wonder if this Script Error/Bad Code was done on purpose by ABC.
Every site that has it, same thing happens.

I have to use Task Manager and that closes every open Window I have whether it’s a site with the ABC Video or not.

If anyone can contact Ed/AP, I’d appreciate it. Evidently he uses Microsoft Exchange, which I don’t have. So cannot report anything.

Too bad the Univision report is not in English. Maybe it was just intended for Spanish speaking audiences?
Thanks.

bluefox on September 30, 2012 at 7:54 PM

A sad testament to the MSM in our era. When we all make jokes about how the MSM will portray the results of the debate, the kinds of questions they will ask, and the adoration and deference they will show to Obama, there is no sarcasm intended, nor is there any contention that this impression is incorrect. Our candidates go into interviews and debates knowing that the interviewers and moderators are fully supportive of the opposition. It’s no longer debatable, but is a fact of the political landscape of our times.

For freedom loving people, this is scandalous; we have a lapdog media consisting of nothing but stenographers for the administration and fully dedicated to getting that regime re-elected.

AZfederalist on September 30, 2012 at 7:55 PM

bluefox on September 30, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Tedc is reporting that this should NOT be good for BHO.

pambi on September 30, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Against conservatives. And even in those debates, he did not do the things being recommended here.

rrpjr on September 30, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Against his opponents. And he did take the fight to Gingrich. So, I don’t know what you’re talking about. It sounds to me like you’re still grousing about the outcome of the primaries.

ghostwriter on September 30, 2012 at 8:06 PM

For freedom loving people, this is scandalous; we have a lapdog media consisting of nothing but stenographers for the administration and fully dedicated to getting that regime re-elected.

AZfederalist on September 30, 2012 at 7:55 PM

The good thing is that I believe that the majority of people now realize the media’s bias and take everything they say with a large grain of salt. New media like this site and many others are our salvation.

OTTO on September 30, 2012 at 8:07 PM

bluefox on September 30, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Tedc is reporting that this should NOT be good for BHO.

pambi on September 30, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Thanks. I’m trying to find an English translation. I’m surprised Ed or Townhall hasn’t addressed this Script Error/Bad Code by now.
From what I could manage to read only from the Univision HA thread, others had the same thing. I couldn’t even reply, LOL Exasperating to say the least.

Maybe AP can put up a thread WITHOUT the offending ABC junk. Maybe the QOTD.

I hope it’s not good for BHO or any of his Administration. This onion is being peeled by the day and hopefully, we’ll get to the rotten core.

bluefox on September 30, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Against conservatives. And even in those debates, he did not do the things being recommended here.

rrpjr on September 30, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Still won. We have many people recommending many things on this site.
As a whole I believe our advice is sage, but had he taken it can we be certain that he’d be in any better shape?

OTTO on September 30, 2012 at 8:13 PM

I,m under the impression that the first debate is to cover domestic policy.
Is that correct ??
What falls into that category ?
SSM ?? Welfare ?? obamacare ??
Romneycaree.
pambi

The first debate will focus on labeling Romney a hypocrite for daring to challenge a federal health care bill that he was ok with in Massachusetts.

xblade on September 30, 2012 at 8:30 PM

So, I don’t know what you’re talking about.

ghostwriter on September 30, 2012 at 8:06 PM

So I’ll be clearer: he has never delivered against the enemy — the democrats or the media. If Wednesday is a first, I’ll celebrate. But my prediction: he trips over himself with niceties, and his generalized jabs, couched in phony mannerliness, will end up sounding chippy. In the Kennedy debates, realizing he was losing, his desperate need to attack clashed with his basic fear of being seen as an attacker by the MSM and he turned downright weird.

rrpjr on September 30, 2012 at 8:38 PM

ghostwriter on September 30, 2012 at 8:06 PM

So I’ll be clearer: he has never delivered against the enemy — the democrats or the media. If Wednesday is a first, I’ll celebrate. But my prediction: he trips over himself with niceties, and his generalized jabs, couched in phony mannerliness, will end up sounding chippy. In the Kennedy debates, realizing he was losing, his desperate need to attack clashed with his basic fear of being seen as an attacker by the MSM and he turned downright weird.

rrpjr on September 30, 2012 at 8:38 PM

The Kennedy debates were nearly 20 years ago…in Massachusetts! Do you really think that’ germane to the current situation? I saw the debates in 2008 and in 2012, and he has demonstrably improved since then.

And it may surprise you to realize that the general public doesn’t appreciate slamming the MSM as much as we do. Beating up on the moderator won’t get him win him any votes from anybody that doesn’t already support him.

ghostwriter on September 30, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Christie stressing “shared sacrifice” sounds too much like Obama for my taste.

What is up with him and this shared theme?

Sherman1864 on September 30, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Actually, I supect it goes beyond this. I think the regime has told the moderators the questions they should must ask.

diogenes on September 30, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Seriously! If even the SCOTUS can leak the vote of Obamacare to the WH you KNOW that the media has given an advance copy of the questions. You know, kind of like those blue book exams we would take in college where you were given 7 essays to prepare for but only 3 would be chosen for the final? Poor Barack has been working so hard. You can’t expect him to cram all that debate prep in when he is doing the work of the people of the US!! We must help him out. It’s only fair (liberal logic 101)

1nolibgal on September 30, 2012 at 9:26 PM

And it may surprise you to realize that the general public doesn’t appreciate slamming the MSM as much as we do.
ghostwriter on September 30, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Extremely wrong. Done appropriately and righteously, as Gingrich did in South Carolina, it’s an elixir — pure popularity juice.

rrpjr on September 30, 2012 at 9:48 PM

With Leftist journalists moderating the debate, the winner will obviously be Obama. People are naive to think otherwise.

The lying media is Obama’s right arm. If Romney had any brains, he would do everything possible to take down the major players in the media. He should expose all who participate in covering up for Obama.

Obama cannot get re-elected without his media lapdogs. The lack of strategy within the Romney camp is mind-numbing.

Sparky5253 on September 30, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Sparky5253 on September 30, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Right you are.

rrpjr on September 30, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Democrat strategist Pat Caddell says the media is now the enemy of the American people

He makes a strong case for why Romney must also treat the media as an enemy.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/09/30/Pat-Caddell-Says-Media-Have-Become-an-Enemy-of-the-American-people

Sparky5253 on September 30, 2012 at 10:06 PM

And it may surprise you to realize that the general public doesn’t appreciate slamming the MSM as much as we do. Beating up on the moderator won’t get him win him any votes from anybody that doesn’t already support him.

Actually, you’re wrong about that.

Think Rather, Bush Sr.

Mitt hasn’t figured out that he’s running against two opponents in this race, and that’s one reason why he’s going to lose, of course, the other more significant reason is that he’s not a conservative.

newtopia on September 30, 2012 at 10:23 PM

The media has its headline already written:

Romney Stumbles Badly In Debate Against Cool Obama.

Obama could show up drunk. mistake Egypt for Ecuador, call Putin Patton and claim to have reduced unemployment more than Bush and Reagan combined, and the MSM would praise his creative panache in the face of the dour, gaffe-prone Romney..

profitsbeard on September 30, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Extremely wrong. Done appropriately and righteously, as Gingrich did in South Carolina, it’s an elixir — pure popularity juice.

rrpjr on September 30, 2012 at 9:48 PM

Popularity juice… in a Republican primary…

ghostwriter on September 30, 2012 at 10:42 PM

And it may surprise you to realize that the general public doesn’t appreciate slamming the MSM as much as we do. Beating up on the moderator won’t get him win him any votes from anybody that doesn’t already support him.

Actually, you’re wrong about that.

Think Rather, Bush Sr.

Mitt hasn’t figured out that he’s running against two opponents in this race, and that’s one reason why he’s going to lose, of course, the other more significant reason is that he’s not a conservative.

newtopia on September 30, 2012 at 10:23 PM

Actually, I’m not. And Dan Rather was outright insolent to the man. the public reaction wasn’t one of seeing the a politician trying to score cheap points against a useful foil in the media (like Gingrich did).

ghostwriter on September 30, 2012 at 10:59 PM


Mitt hasn’t figured out that he’s running against two opponents in this race, and that’s one reason why he’s going to lose, of course, the other more significant reason is that he’s not a conservative.

Yes, only you’re discounting the powerful sense of personal connection that the American people experience when Willard Mitt Romney takes the podium to confront the issues of the day! (Look, Ma! An alien android with a blow-dried bouffant is promising to repeal ObamaCare–oh, wait–no it’s not, it wants to keep the good parts, or something. How does that hologram talk out of both sides of its face like that? MA! It’s laughing! OH, THE HORROR! Listen to it: Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. It’s not human, Ma! It’s just not.)

casuist on September 30, 2012 at 11:47 PM


I saw the debates in 2008 and in 2012, and he has demonstrably improved since then.

He had no where to go but up.

casuist on September 30, 2012 at 11:48 PM

Christie stressing “shared sacrifice” sounds too much like Obama for my taste.

What is up with him and this shared theme?

Sherman1864 on September 30, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Christie is another moderate like McCain, Romney, etc. Except he promotes himself on youtube with all his “tough talk”. When conservatives outside of NJ learn about him they will be surprised. He talks tough with the teachers’ unions….great….but on almost every other issue, he is a mess.

Dan Pet on October 1, 2012 at 12:28 AM

I saw the debates in 2008 and in 2012, and he has demonstrably improved since then.

He had no where to go but up.

casuist on September 30, 2012 at 11:48 PM

Is there an actual point there?

ghostwriter on October 1, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Actually, I’m not.

ghostwriter on September 30, 2012 at 10:59 PM

Actually, you are. The idea that only hardcore Republicans can appreciate rebukes to the smugly elite and lying media is ridiculous. The media is now the most disliked and distrusted institution in America — not just by conservatives. Beyond that, Romney has reached a point at which challenging the media is no longer a luxury. These people are openly at war with him — and, really, with America. It is simply moral dereliction to pretend any longer this isn’t true. The failure to address the vicious journalistic degeneration of the media is far more than a political miscalculation. How he does it is, of course, always the challenge. But NOT to do it at all will seal Romney’s fate as a man who misunderstood his moment and failed his country.

rrpjr on October 1, 2012 at 1:03 AM


Is there an actual point there?

Romney in a debate can move faster than the speed of suck. Romney behind a podium in a debate format can reach heights of suckiness undreamed of by you earth-bound mortals who belly-crawl through life following candidates like Romney. Romney in front of a television camera in an unscripted format can achieve a near perfect vacuum of absolute suck.

Your chances are nil at the point that you’re arguing about turn-out models or you’re on your knees praying that the debates will somehow save you from your own inept messaging.

casuist on October 1, 2012 at 1:06 AM

The attempted meme that Obama has had to cancel practice sessions because “he has a day job” is pure BS. In fact, someone at another site dug up a WaPo story about a July 1 event which Obama left “to attend his first debate practice.”

He’s had time to go on The View, for cryin’ out loud, and managed to go to sleep as our embassy was under terror attack and then fly to a Vegas fundraiser the next day.

All the Debbie Downers around here should just swallow a handful of pills and end their suffering – and ours. Fluke off, losers!

Adjoran on October 1, 2012 at 3:59 AM

What a tool bringing up Bill Kristol and Peggy Noonan. They are just useful idiots.

earlgrey133 on September 30, 2012 at 6:47 PM

I think ambitious is a better way to describe them.
They betray us because they want to be invited on more TV shows & to more cocktail parties.

itsnotaboutme on October 1, 2012 at 5:56 AM

It doesn’t make any difference how biased the moderators are at this point. The people watching the debates that have already made up their minds will be impossible to sway no matter what transpires.

The neutral people who have yet to decide are probably smart enough to see through any ambush the moderators/media can set so it will backfire. If they see unfair treatment, they’ll see through it.

Romney knows his stuff like the back of his hand because he truely believes in his positions. Obama has to study polls and get briefings to know what his position is and how he got there. I want to see Romney take it to Obama like he would take it to a 3rd World dictator…which shouldn’t be too much of a stretch.

JetBlast on October 1, 2012 at 6:18 AM

For the majority of people in this poor sick Republic I don’t think anything matters . . . as long as they get their free crap and telephones from the government. Disgusting!

rplat on October 1, 2012 at 7:26 AM

I watched NBC’s Meet The Press, with Christy on it as first guest, and had the expected time even listening to it after Christy departed.

It was an hour (what part I did hear after Christy left) of Democrats posed as “Intelligentsia” (my term for how they behaved), parroting most angles of the Obama relection campaign, “curiously” “asking” “why is Romney losing” and similar.

Terrible show. NBC is cretinous.

Lourdes on October 1, 2012 at 7:41 AM

I watched NBC’s Meet The Press, with Christy on it as first guest, and had the expected DIFFICULT time even listening to it after Christy departed.

Lourdes on October 1, 2012 at 7:42 AM

Maybe Christie can pull Romney’s chestnuts out of the fire. Christie and Ryan.

petefrt on October 1, 2012 at 7:43 AM

Romney knows his stuff like the back of his hand because he truely believes in his positions. Obama has to study polls and get briefings to know what his position is and how he got there. I want to see Romney take it to Obama like he would take it to a 3rd World dictator…which shouldn’t be too much of a stretch.

JetBlast on October 1, 2012 at 6:18 AM

Yes, I agree with you there.

IF Romney’s aggressive and Obama is proven to be the idiot that he actually is as to the economy and our financial concerns from a leadership perspective (does Obama even HAVE skills in these areas, I tend to doubt it), then Obama’s going to go away from the debate with the Sympathy Vote: poor-widdle-Obama-was-tryin-to-be-nice-and-Miff-Rummy-beat-up-on-him…

Which should NOT discourage Romney from proving Obama to be the hapless fool he is on the economy, etc. but just stating that here because it’s almost certain that the Media will use that rationalization about Obama as I described above IF Obama comes off realistically (as unskilled and unknowledgeable).

I wish we could vote tomorrow. There’s just no comparison between Romney’s abilities and Obama’s lack of them. Obama’s ONLY ability is: he’s a good actor and “performs” the teleprompter better than most. OUr nation needss actual leadership now, not acting.

Lourdes on October 1, 2012 at 7:47 AM

Your chances are nil at the point that you’re arguing about turn-out models or you’re on your knees praying that the debates will somehow save you from your own inept messaging.

casuist on October 1, 2012 at 1:06 AM

The Communist ^^ is in the Suck this morning.

Have some coffee, maybe it’ll open your eyes.

Lourdes on October 1, 2012 at 7:52 AM

I’m sure the DNC and the moderators have sat down and figured out their strategy.

Philly on September 30, 2012 at 6:43 PM

…I think you are right! People will be getting in touch with each others people…but Romney’s people won’t be involved.
Remember Georgie Porgie asking the condom question during the Republican primary debates.

KOOLAID2 on September 30, 2012 at 6:51 PM

Remember John Kerry’s CHEAT?

Rules stated: no pens carried in with candidates.

John Kerry agreed to the Rules and then carried in a pen (and who knows what else).

No uproar from the (Democrat) moderators, no reprimand, no requests to repose Kerry or bring him in-line with the Rules. Not to mention what he said…

We should ALL expect by now that Mitt Romney will be before a hostile audience, will be described by a hostile audience and will be “questioned” by a hostile audience, Democrats all in media and at the debate/s.

None of this means Romney will NOT be voted for by a nation that is NOT hostile toward Romney.

The Media today is a lost cause. It’s as if we now have an occupying force in our nation and they’re doing their best to ruin our lives and reduce us to nothingness.

Lourdes on October 1, 2012 at 7:58 AM

Obama could show up drunk. mistake Egypt for Ecuador, call Putin Patton and claim to have reduced unemployment more than Bush and Reagan combined, and the MSM would praise his creative panache in the face of the dour, gaffe-prone Romney..

profitsbeard on September 30, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Lol.

Romney: Mr. President, could you explain to us what a “profit and earning ratio” is?

petefrt on October 1, 2012 at 8:00 AM

Please Romney. Show me I’m voting for you after the debate. And not voting against the other.

Gedge on October 1, 2012 at 8:18 AM

The Media today is a lost cause. It’s as if we now have an occupying force in our nation and they’re doing their best to ruin our lives and reduce us to nothingness.

Lourdes on October 1, 2012 at 7:58 AM

I agree with this.

Why are they doing this to our country? They are not uneducated, for the money? I just
do not understand why they hate freedom and free people.

MrMoe on October 1, 2012 at 8:30 AM