About that “Romney-Ryan” chanting on MSNBC – Updated

posted at 8:31 am on September 29, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

(See updates below – Jazz)

There was yet another story this week making the rounds regarding a Romney-Ryan stop on the campaign trail, alleging some dirty tricks by the media in their coverage. But this one really serves more to highlight what happens when politicos wind up with too much time on their hands during the silly season. In it, we find charges of media skullduggery in their attempts to get Barack Obama elected to a second term. (Nothing new there, I’m sure.) But this one seems to have problems.

Here’s the clip in question, where MSNBC host Joe Scarborough reacts to a clip of Paul Ryan introducing Mitt Romney during the event in question, and Mitt responding to the chants of the crowd.

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After Ryan finishes the intro, Mitt grabs the mic and says, “Wow! That’s quite a guy, isn’t it? Paul Ryan! Isn’t that something?” At this point the crowd breaks out into a chant. This is where the “controversy” begins.

If you listen closely, it’s obvious the audio in the clip has been adjusted. However, that’s not uncommon — and that doesn‘t necessarily mean it’s MSNBC who did it. Sound technicians usually cut out the audience to ensure speakers aren’t drowned out (which you can do by simply turning the mics up and down — or you can do after the fact). However, where the controversy comes in is in the caption on the screen quoting the audience as chanting “Ryan!” Why is that controversial? Because people who attended the event say that’s not what happened, and that the MSNBC video grossly misrepresents what actually occurred.

Yes, the caption on the screen reads, “Ryan! Ryan!” And when Mitt jumps in to urge the crowd to say, “Romney Ryan” it comes off looking kind of awkward. But that’s the entire point that Scarborough seems to be reacting to… that it was a brief, forgettable moment which wound up coming off poorly on video and simply opened the door to another event “gaffe.”

But more to the point, it’s a bit of a leap to try to assume some sort of conspiracy on the part of MSNBC here, no matter what your normal inclinations are. I pulled the audio line of the clip out using Audacity and played it several times at high volume with some background noise dampening. (And without.) A lot of people were chanting “Ryan.” Why wouldn’t they? The guy is very popular and had not only just finished speaking, but was also complimented by the candidate. And without a doubt, some other people were chanting “Romney.”

But the way it played on video was… awkward. Was it a campaign ending – or even influencing – flub? No.. it’s a nothingburger. But was it a conspiracy by MSNBC? As the original article admits, it’s pretty much standard editing. How each person interprets it is up to them. But… a MSM conspiracy? Sorry… I’m just not seeing it. I believe Romney heard some of the people yelling “Romney!” and wanted to spread the credit around, but did so at a moment which left the reaction open to any interpretation partisans might like.

So what was this in the end? It’s us having way too much time on our hands while we wait for the first debate. You can find more than enough incidents of media bias all around the dial to keep things clicking along, but in this case, there simply wasn’t any “there there” on either side. Scarborough is one of the few conservatives given time on MSNBC (though you should also check out S.E. Cupp on “The Cycle” in the afternoon) and it’s kind of self defeating to tear down one of the reasonable voices on the network. If you really think Scarborough is trying to get Obama reelected, I honestly don’t know what to say to you. This was really a case of nothing to see here… move along.

UPDATE 9/30: Jazz

Given the, shall we say, “energetic” response to this piece which I’ve received through multiple channels, a fair portion of the weekend was spent digging further into this story. (A fact I am still gobsmacked by, given the completely trivial nature of the original clip.) Yet a few more interesting twists and turns to the tale have emerged.

First of all, as was previously reported, MSNBC picked up on the story via Politico. Here is their original video, still available on line, where they ran the fifteen seconds of film from the event with the headline, “Romney changes crowd’s chant to include his name.” Even if they backed off on the story later, this was the source MSNBC originally picked up. I’ve run that video against the one shown on Morning Joe, including the audio tracks, and they are identical. But there’s another twist to come.

In an effort to verify the story, I contacted MSNBC. In the process of preparing to air the clip, they sought out confirmation and located an article from the New York Times, which many readers referenced as proof that Politico’s line about what the crowd was chanting was incorrect. (Leading to the suggestion that Morning Joe must have cooked the books on it.) That article in its current form ends as follows:

The other is that the PowerPoint slides and wonky talk work powerfully well with many people who leave feeling that they have not been lectured to, but empowered.

“He speaks the truth, and he gives us facts,” Jackie Sullivan said after a rally in Orlando, Fla., last weekend that drew more than 2,000 people.

But avoiding missteps is now critical for the both of them, as they fight together to chip into Mr. Obama’s lead.

After Mr. Ryan whooped up the crowd in Vandalia on Tuesday, Mr. Romney moved to the front of the stage. As the crowd began chanting “Romney! Romney!” he cut them off.“Wait a second,” Mr. Romney said, instructing the audience to cheer for “Romney-Ryan! Romney-Ryan!” They did.

“There we go,” he said, pleased.

Michael Barbaro contributed reporting from New York.

But early in the news cycle, when MSNBC was checking into it, there was something else there. A correction was posted on the story, which has since disappeared. Here’s how the end of the article looked that morning, as captured by another site’s RSS feed.

The other is that the PowerPoint slides and wonky talk work powerfully well with many people who leave feeling that they have not been lectured to, but empowered.

“He speaks the truth, and he gives us facts,” Jackie Sullivan said after a rally in Orlando, Fla., last weekend that drew more than 2,000 people.

Michael Barbaro contributed reporting from New York.

This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Correction: September 25, 2012

An earlier version of this article referred to the crowd at a rally in Vandalia, Ohio, chanting “Romney! Romney!” as Mr. Romney took the stage. Upon closer review of the audio, it was unclear if the crowd was chanting for Mr. Romney, his running mate, Paul Ryan, or for both men.

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So, when MSNBC went to check on the story, the Gray Lady had included a correction saying that the crowd reaction may have been the same as that reported in Politico. While the correction has since disappeared, I reached out to a source familiar with the processing of the story who confirmed that the retraction had been been there, but was no longer present.

The bottom line to this entire sad tale is that the original story – involving fifteen seconds of a crowd chanting at a campaign rally – has now morphed beyond what was at first nothing more than a potentially amusing moment on the campaign trail and become a meta-story in a pair of campaigns which frequently remain about nothing. But in this case, too many people who are ostensibly fighting for the conservative cause have chosen to concoct a conspiracy theory in which one of the conservative voices in the mainstream media is secretly trying to undermine the Romney campaign and facilitate President Obama’s reelection. And for suggesting that we might be jumping the gun on this, I received a near record number of responses suggesting that I’m all too willing to buy into this media narrative and lend a hand. Morning Joe took a fast moving story from a frequently cited source – Politico – and checked with the New York Times and ran it.

Was the story flawed? Almost certainly. Did it hold any great importance for voters considering their choices in November? No. But vilifying one of our own during the silly season near the end of the election isn’t helping anyone. Let’s close the book on this one, folks.


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Pat Caddell Says: Media Have Become an “Enemy of the American people”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBR4g6cBYeA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

redguy on September 29, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Conspiracy? No. It’s outright bias. MSDNC doesn’t hide what they do, but apparently Jazz is compelled to be the diplomat and overlook that network’s past behavior.

This is lazy blogging Jazz. Without links of people (or journalists) who attended, you rely solely on MSDNC’s word. And please, don’t ever call Joe Scarborough a conservative. The closest he comes to that is RINO and that’s minimal. His conservative days are long gone.

conservative pilgrim on September 29, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Obama now beginning to open up a decent lead in Rasmussen, up 48-46. With leaners, the lead is 49-47. Looks like Ras will be moving to Gallup rather than the reverse.

When Ras shows what all the other polls show, what will be the excuse for the poll deniers?

gumbyandpokey on September 29, 2012 at 9:24 AM

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My excuse is that you would have to be a moron or a Democrite ( and I’m proudly neither) to believe Hopey does BETTER than his 50.9% he got in 2008 in FL. – to this phony projected 53-54% your comrades want you to cling to now. Cling to your honest media, but deep down you know you’re being lied to.

And yes Dorothy, The Bradley Effect is working overtime. The honest socialists know this.

Call the polling a sort of MSNBS moment……. But it ain’t happening.

FlaMurph on September 29, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Nothing changes the fact (yes, fact) that Joe Scarborough is a first rate ass on a fifth rate cable network.

trapeze on September 29, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Obama now beginning to open up a decent lead in Rasmussen, up 48-46. With leaners, the lead is 49-47. Looks like Ras will be moving to Gallup rather than the reverse.

gumbyandpokey on September 29, 2012 at 9:24 AM…repeat from post yesterday?

…hey gummeandpokeme ! Let me do in one post…what you will do for the next week in every poll pertinent thread…so you can go play with yourself elsewhere…
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poll…pole…poll…pole…poll..yanktheirpole…poll…pole…poll…pole…poll…pole…poll…yankmypole…poll…pole…poll…pole…poll…polishthepole…poll…pole…orgasmicpoll…pole..poll…pole…poll!….your day is done!…enjoy yourself!

KOOLAID2 on September 29, 2012 at 10:11 AM

Jazz Shaw is a fool (relatively speaking) and an embaressment to Hot Air. This observation has little to do with this specific post (although the painstaking attempt at being “level headed, objective, and high minded” while in fact being utterly predictable, pseudo-pedantic, and utterly dull is par for the course with his blogging).

truecon on September 29, 2012 at 10:12 AM

The question for me is why they felt it was important to use “subtitles” saying “Ryan” instead of letting the audience just hear it for themselves. That in itself does not cover them in glory.
It’s called editorializing and that’s the real problem.

And ole Joe double face palming was disgusting.

bluealice on September 29, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Jazz.. you need to remove your head from your rectum.

jewells45 on September 29, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Jazz.. you need to remove your head from your rectum.

jewells45 on September 29, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Catch 22, he cant hear you…

the_nile on September 29, 2012 at 10:17 AM

But was it a conspiracy by MSNBC? As the original article admits, it’s pretty much standard editing. How each person interprets it is up to them. But… a MSM conspiracy? Sorry… I’m just not seeing it.
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Jazz Shaw

@JoeNBC 16hrs ago

The fake controversy over the Ryan chants is a joke. Romney said “What a guy!” The crowd chanted “Ryan!” and then Mitt jokes “Romney/Ryan!”

@JoeNBC 16hrs ago

I won’t even dignify the site that is fanning this false controversy but I will take note of those who link to the lie.

‏@JoeNBC 16hrs ago

I’m going to have the tape linked this weekend. You watch and be the judge. We will also play the CSPAN tape on Monday. Going to be fun.

I stitched together the MSNBC clip and the clip of The Blaze caller with Pat and Stu’s reaction to her claim–and their reaction to the rally footage as they play it again without the MSNBC-added text. I also stitched together the original Romney/Ryan clip that I pulled from C-SPAN.

What appears to be an unpopular Romney seeking appreciation and attention from a Paul Ryan-infatuated audience is really a man who is generously deflecting attention away from himself onto his VP nominee. Greg Hengler Blogger, Townhall.com

Flora Duh on September 29, 2012 at 10:17 AM

So what was this in the end? It’s us having way too much time on our hands while we wait for the first debate.

What the heck are you talking about? The coordinated attack in Libya, the WH & State Dept’s cover-up, the continues financial support to Egypt, our fiscal cliff, the continued snubs to Israel and coddling of Iran, race riots in Cali, unelected Michelle Obama’s federal take over of school lunches, the O family & O Team bill cost more than the British royal family, inflation, et. al.??!

Let’s not forget about the planned Al Queda attack in Afghanistan at Camp Bastion that killed US Marines….nothing. Not a peep from the media.

Instead, oh look over here ***squirrel!!!*** MsDNC says the crowd chanted “Ryan” not “Romney” and Jazz Shaw is compelled to weigh in because nothing else is going on in the news…….

conservative pilgrim on September 29, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Do I think Scarborough is trying to get Obama elected? Well, I think he’s definitely not trying to get Romney elected. He was on Jay Leno’s show a week and a half ago and had one negative comment about Mitt after another. Not to mention the rumors that Scarborough himself is considering running for president in 2016.

If Scarborough is really a conservative, then someone should be able to find a clip of him recently taking a clearly conservative point of view. In fact, they should be able to find a lot of clips where he takes a clearly conservative point of view. I would like to see those clips if they exist.

J.S.K. on September 29, 2012 at 10:21 AM

“The Bradley Effect is working overtime”

Ah, yes, the same Bradley Effect that hurt Obama so badly in 08.

Election night is going to be fascinating around here.

gumbyandpokey on September 29, 2012 at 10:24 AM

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/untold_loss_media_blackout_on_military_disaster_on_obamas_watch.html

Untold Loss: Media Blackout on Military Disaster on Obama’s Watch

Under the leadership of Barack H. Obama, though hardly noticed by the pro-Obama mainstream media, the U.S. Marine Corps has suffered its worst air squadron catastrophe since Vietnam, and its prized VMA-211 squadron has taken its worst hit since its defense of Wake Island in World War II.

It happened on September 14, 2012,

the_nile on September 29, 2012 at 10:24 AM

it’s a bit of a leap to try to assume some sort of conspiracy on the part of MSNBC here, no matter what your normal inclinations are.

It think it becomes a more than reasonable inclination to suspect bias and dishonesty first when all this network typically presents is bias and dishonesty. MSNBC wasn’t up to their typical shenanigans this one time?

Now that’s news…

lynncgb on September 29, 2012 at 10:25 AM

y excuse is that you would have to be a moron or a Democrite ( and I’m proudly neither) to believe Hopey does BETTER than his 50.9% he got in 2008 in FL.

I just say this, mccain-palin are better candidates than romney-ryan. especially palin which gave a huge bump to the maccain canpaign.
also, obama had big negatives at the time. obama is a muslim slander was actually believed back then, meaning, that it was easier to build a negative narrative of obama. now that he has been president for 4 years, those wild stories lost credibility.

so, yes, there can be justifications for a better obama result. but the best justification is that mitt sucks as a politician! I really think joe is right, mitt sucks as a politician. look at the stories:
-corporations are people
-bet you 10000$
-i dont care about poor people
-i dont care about 47%
-if i was born in mexico my chances would be better
-i have a few friends that own nascar teams

mitt practically gave the narrative to the dems. the comedians are running around with these sound bites and ppl are laughing. its really bad!

– to this phony projected 53-54% your comrades want you to cling to now. Cling to your honest media, but deep down you know you’re being lied to.

And yes Dorothy, The Bradley Effect is working overtime. The honest socialists know this.

Call the polling a sort of MSNBS moment……. But it ain’t happening.

FlaMurph on September 29, 2012 at 10:08 AM

i know they lie and are biased, but not on everything.

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 10:27 AM

There were ACTUAL reporters on the ground at the rally and in fact, what happened was that the CROWD WAS CHANTING FOR ROMNEY and he introduced Ryan and encouraged the crowed to cheer for RYAN TOO as a way of INCLUDING RYAN.
mountainaires on September 29, 2012 at 9:01 AM

Yup and as I noted above, they even live tweeted it here, here and here.

whatcat on September 29, 2012 at 10:29 AM

You know what Jazz? Maybe you ought to do some research on this before running modest defense for MSNBC, which has a history of doctoring audio and video to meet their ideological goals.

No fewer than reporters from Politico, WaPo, The AP, Buzzfeed and the NYT who were on the scene reported that the crowd was chanting “Romney, Romney”, prompting the Mitt to call for a revised chant of “Romney, Ryan.”

In the grand scheme of things, NO, it’s not a big deal. But the media is systematically trying to reelect Barack Obama and to shrug this off as relatively honest reporting is lazy. And if MSNBC knew what the crowd was chanting and deliberately altered the impression by overlaying the “Ryan” text, then they were falsely reporting the news in an effort to shape opinion. I guess in this day and age, that’s become acceptable to folks like Jazz.

BKeyser on September 29, 2012 at 10:34 AM

it’s a bit of a leap to try to assume some sort of conspiracy on the part of MSNBC here, no matter what your normal inclinations are.

It think it becomes a more than reasonable inclination to suspect bias and dishonesty first when all this network typically presents is bias and dishonesty. MSNBC wasn’t up to their typical shenanigans this one time?
Now that’s news…
lynncgb on September 29, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Yeah, the “conspiracy” strawman doesn’t need to be hauled out when MJ & MSNBC were caught lying outright and doing a little “creative editing”.

whatcat on September 29, 2012 at 10:34 AM

it’s a bit of a leap to try to assume some sort of conspiracy on the part of MSNBC here, no matter what your normal inclinations are

…little early to be token that chit in the morning…it’s MSLSD you’re chooming about!

KOOLAID2 on September 29, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Election night is going to be fascinating around here.

gumbyandpokey on September 29, 2012 at 10:24 AM

…it sure will be…you’ll be fornicating yourself!

KOOLAID2 on September 29, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Once again a Hot Air pundit has taken a poopy-diapered MSM meme and treated it with full faith and credit. Instead of scorning the hell out of the malfeasance and Journo-Listic douchebaggery of it.

rayra on September 29, 2012 at 10:41 AM

Flora Duh on September 29, 2012 at 10:17 AM

i also saw the townhall video but i dont agree!
look the short clip from cspan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0dcXwCpBOM

i hear ryan, not romney! but the what really does not add up is that is not believable that the crowd would chant for romney when he just said these words:

“Wow! That’s quite a guy, isn’t it? Paul Ryan! Isn’t that

what is this? romney praises ryan and the crowd chants romney in response?!??!

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 10:41 AM

Well, he’s been heading this way for a while, but as a result of this screed I officially place Jazz Shaw onto my growing list of Democrat apologists.

And what this means is that, whether he wants to admit it or not, Jazz Shaw is currently working to re-elect the President. We have to keep hammering this point home. I don’t care what your affiliation, ideology, or platform hot-button is, at less than 40 days out if you are not actively doing everything you can to elect Mitt Romney, then you are working to elect Obama. There is no middle ground.

Anyone who doesn’t fight the MSM bias such as represented in this show-up are complicit in these attacks. Jazz Shaw proves by his actions that he is an active member of the Obama re-election campaign.

Time for us to call our erstwhile brethren out, folks.

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Don’t know if you guys have noticed, but even the ridiculous “unskewedpolls.com” site is showing huge movement to Obama in their tracking poll, moving from Romney +12 to Romney +3 this week.

gumbyandpokey on September 29, 2012 at 9:53 AM

LIAR.
UnSkewed Polling Data
Saturday, September 29, 2012 10:35:28 AM
Poll Date Sample UnSkewed Avg. 9/4 – 9/27
Romney +7.4

Mitsouko on September 29, 2012 at 10:42 AM

what is this? romney praises ryan and the crowd chants romney in response?!??!

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 10:41 AM

No, bozo. Romney steps up to the mic and the crowd chants (crazy as it may seem), “Romney! Romney!”

The left gets more pathetic and desperate each passing day.

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 10:43 AM

I have to call conspiracy. Even on the MSNBC tape I could hear “Romney”. So how they subtitle it “Ryan” is beyond me.

Zaggs on September 29, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Yup and as I noted above, they even live tweeted it here, here and here.

whatcat on September 29, 2012 at 10:29 AM

explain to me how a crowd chants romney after he just praised ryan:

“Wow! That’s quite a guy, isn’t it? Paul Ryan! Isn’t that something?”

what kind of crowd is this?!?

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Quoting Rat Caddell is like quoting an old cardboard box , nobody cares … he has no relevance at all … he is not a Democrat and there are way more right wingers and GOPers who have more credibility

as for the video Jazz has it right … you can definitely hear a lot of Ryan,Ryan … Joe S. talks up his conservative beliefs all the time … Actually I’m glad you folks are Joe haters because that is what drives a lot of moderates away from voting GOP and made the GOP lose such key Senate races as Delaware and Nevada … so Harry Reid lives and Bin Laden is dead … Thanks very much far right wingers /typical Hot Air reader

U2denver on September 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM

I meant Pat not Rat

U2denver on September 29, 2012 at 10:47 AM

No, bozo. Romney steps up to the mic and the crowd chants (crazy as it may seem), “Romney! Romney!”

The left gets more pathetic and desperate each passing day.

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 10:43 AM

no dude, the crowd is silent hears romney praising ryan and then the chants begin!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0dcXwCpBOM

how does a crowd chants romney after that praise!?!?! yeah, it is crazy if they chant romney!

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Why do I want to punch Scarborough in the mouth every time he claims to be a Conservative? He is a disgrace to the Conservative movement.

jrfromdallas on September 29, 2012 at 10:49 AM

In the grand scheme of things, NO, it’s not a big deal. But the media is systematically trying to reelect Barack Obama and to shrug this off as relatively honest reporting is lazy. And if MSNBC knew what the crowd was chanting and deliberately altered the impression by overlaying the “Ryan” text, then they were falsely reporting the news in an effort to shape opinion. I guess in this day and age, that’s become acceptable to folks like Jazz.

BKeyser on September 29, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Actually, to me, it is a big deal for two reasons. First, it puts an absolute exclamation point (if one were needed) on the idea that Scarborough is anything but a Democrat sympathizer. This clip needs to be trotted out every single time Old Joe even hints that he wants to run as a Republican next cycle.

Second, and perhaps more important to me, is the fact that it forcefully points out that those who consider themselves to be Conservatives have to either fish or cut bait, right now. Drop the beltway insider, reach across the aisle, kumbaya crap RIGHT NOW or else be labelled for once and for all as Leftist sympathizers. I don’t care if you’ve written 100 articles that are pro-Conservative, if you don’t pull out the big guns now, you’re actually hurting the cause, because you become just another Scarborough: someone the Left can point to as an example of a “Conservative” that agrees with the Leftist positions.

It’s like a quarterback who throws for 450 yards but throws three interceptions in the end zone. It doesn’t matter what you do when it’s easy if you fold when it counts.

Jazz Shaw is folding like a cheap card table.

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM

what is this? romney praises ryan and the crowd chants romney in response?!??!
nathor on September 29, 2012 at 10:41 AM

No, bozo. Romney steps up to the mic and the crowd chants (crazy as it may seem), “Romney! Romney!”
The left gets more pathetic and desperate each passing day.
AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 10:43 AM

Oy, yes. They’re plumbing the depths of dumbness.

whatcat on September 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM

This isn’t the first time jazz has insulted us.

It’s a shame, really. The weekends are when I have more time to read/post.

But jazz pulls weekend duty, and when he’s not insulting my intelligence in a way only an isolated vacuum packed New Yorker can do,, he simply drives me away by being boring and oddball.

It’s just my opinion and I’m entitled to it, but weekend traffic here is slow for a reason. Weekday QOTD’s get more hits than a Saturday’s worth of jazz on his A-game posts all day.

No personal offense jazz. It’s just a case of round peg-square hole.

wolly4321 on September 29, 2012 at 10:52 AM

Jazz, get a set and own up to the fact that MSNBC is a tool for Obama! Me thinks you can’t see the forest for the trees!!!

whsiii on September 29, 2012 at 10:52 AM

Not sure on this one, but every day on ABC News (on the radio), they play an Obama crowd cheering to what Obama says and a Romney crowd silent as he speaks. I noticed it almost from the beginning, but now it’s clearly them doing it on purpose because it’s every single time.

UnderstandingisPower on September 29, 2012 at 10:53 AM

explain to me how a crowd chants romney after he just praised ryan:

what kind of crowd is this?!?

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 10:44 AM

It’s a crowd that came to see (wait for it!) the next President of the United States, Mitt Romney! Did you see that they were holding up Romney/Ryan signs?

You are to laugh, Nathor, you truly are. Thanks for brightening up my Saturday morning. :)

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 10:54 AM

how does a crowd chants romney after that praise!?!?! yeah, it is crazy if they chant romney!
nathor on September 29, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Ask the reporters who were there why Romney supporters were chanting “Romney”, if it’s really that hard for you to guess.

whatcat on September 29, 2012 at 10:56 AM

Why do I want to punch Scarborough in the mouth every time he claims to be a Conservative? He is a disgrace to the Conservative movement.

jrfromdallas on September 29, 2012 at 10:49 AM

…easy there!…you could be punching JugEars in the butt!

KOOLAID2 on September 29, 2012 at 10:56 AM

Oy, yes. They’re plumbing the depths of dumbness.

whatcat on September 29, 2012 at 10:51 AM

look, i said it before, it was a flub by romney, barely no more that 5 seconds before he realized his mistake and cut to talking about some senator.
its pretty lame, so no need to deny reality in such insignificant mistake.

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM

Go to this link. A lady who was there tells them she was there and they were chanting Romney. The guys (Pat and Stu) weren’t buying it, but they replayed the video. Their reaction is priceless.

Evidently Jazz couldn’t be bothered to do a little research.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/greghengler/2012/09/28/msnbc_caught_doctoring_clip_from_romneyryan_rally

If you listen to the cadence of his voice, he’s clearing telling people to ad “Ryan” to their chant of “Romney”. MSNBC and Old Joe are caryying carrying the water, and Jazz is helping.

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 10:58 AM

it is crazy if they chant romney!

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 10:49 AM

What you think the crowd’s reaction should have been isn’t relevant.

What several witnesses who were there, including reporters for such crazy rightwing rags as The NY Times, WaPo and Buzzfeed, says actually happened, is.

Flora Duh on September 29, 2012 at 10:58 AM

U2denver on September 29, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Go away cellophane troll. You are no moderate. You don’t even realize how transparent you are.

FAIL.

Mitsouko on September 29, 2012 at 10:58 AM

All i can say is HOG-WASH.My brother in law was at this event and got most of it recored on his new I-Phone .After the Ryan speech the people were cheering Romney-Romney-Romney you can hear it plain as day no spattering of Ryan-Ryan then you can hear Romney saying NO were a team it,s Romney ,Ryan.I hope you people remember how Msnbc doctored the voice on the tape of Zimmerman in the Martin shooting.

logman1 on September 29, 2012 at 11:00 AM

look, i said it before, it was a flub by romney, barely no more that 5 seconds before he realized his mistake and cut to talking about some senator.
its pretty lame, so no need to deny reality in such insignificant mistake.

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM

You’re funny when you’re dumb or desperate. Not so much when you’re just lying.

The crowd was chanting ROMNEY, ROMNEY.

Visit the website. View the clip. Come back and report to us.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/greghengler/2012/09/28/msnbc_caught_doctoring_clip_from_romneyryan_rally

And please, try to be a little more creative. You’re a lot funnier then. Otherwise you’re just the “Obama gave me a phone” lady.

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Jazz, get a set and own up to the fact that MSNBC is a tool for Obama! Me thinks you can’t see the forest for the trees!!!
whsiii on September 29, 2012 at 10:52 AM

It’s more lack of verification skills in that he didn’t even bother to check MSM reporter’s live tweeted coverage of the moment that he’s confused about.

whatcat on September 29, 2012 at 11:01 AM

redguy on September 29, 2012 at 10:04 AM

God bless you!

You are a patriot for your love of our liberty!

We need an appropriate strategy.

This is as powerful as President Eisenhower’s warning about the military industrial complex.

It is a shame that this warning will fall on deaf ears.

We need to change the constitution to get them under control. The framers didn’t see the rise of the various elements and influences which led us to this perilous juncture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBR4g6cBYeA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

IlikedAUH2O on September 29, 2012 at 11:01 AM

They just don’t make Trolls like they used to.

However, they seem to like this post. What does that say?

kingsjester on September 29, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Scarborough is one of the few conservatives given time on MSNBC and it’s kind of self defeating to tear down one of the reasonable voices on the network.

Oh yeah, Joe Scarborough is a conservative. Here he is establishing his conservative credentials. And here he is explaining why Republicans love Obama, and here he is bragging about how un-republican he is, and here he is loving on Mooch. Oh yes, he is one of the reasonable conservative voices.

Dollayo on September 29, 2012 at 11:03 AM

Ask the reporters who were there why Romney supporters were chanting “Romney”, if it’s really that hard for you to guess.

whatcat on September 29, 2012 at 10:56 AM

I especially like this quote from your link:

Here is the doctored video, MSNBC giving it full airing complete with Fredo Scarborough in full defeatist crouch:

Fredo Scarborough. Heh.

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Ask the reporters who were there why Romney supporters were chanting “Romney”, if it’s really that hard for you to guess.

whatcat on September 29, 2012 at 10:56 AM

its very wierd. maybe they were chanting both names. (i do hear ryan in the cspan video) and romney just tries to put order in the confusion by making ppl chanting alternately.

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 11:05 AM

look, i said it before, it was a flub by romney, barely no more that 5 seconds before he realized his mistake and cut to talking about some senator.
its pretty lame, so no need to deny reality in such insignificant mistake.

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM

Your spin is pathetic.

You want to know why we are pushing back against you, Joe Scarborough and others? Because we are fed up to the back teeth with negativity, lies and misrepresentation.

Mark Levin said it the other day…it is up to us to win this election. Calling out those who want to undermine our side, however insignificant it seems, is part of it. I’m tired of being reasonable.

#WAR

Mitsouko on September 29, 2012 at 11:06 AM

look, i said it before, it was a flub by romney
nathor on September 29, 2012 at 10:57 AM

You’ll have to argue that against all the MSM reporters who were there reporting on it. If you can view their Twitter feeds on an Obamaphone, of course.

whatcat on September 29, 2012 at 11:06 AM

What you think the crowd’s reaction should have been isn’t relevant.

Flora Duh on September 29, 2012 at 10:58 AM

how its not relevant!?!? give me your sincere opinion, after a praise like that, and if you were in the crowd, what would you chant?

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 11:08 AM

What I am reading here is a little strange. I can’t believe people are spending time on MSNBC at all, much less wondering if Joe Scar is actually against Romney?
Joe is NOT a Conservative! He is a panderer of the enth degree! He suck up to the lefties who provide him a pay check!
I listened to a gentleman who phoned in to Rush yesterday, who was at the rally in question, and He said the clip was clearly off and did not reflect the crowds chants at all. It was like a back and forth of Ryan/Romney and Romney/Ryan…..
Pay attention to the following post and go get REAL!

What the heck are you talking about? The coordinated attack in Libya, the WH & State Dept’s cover-up, the continues financial support to Egypt, our fiscal cliff, the continued snubs to Israel and coddling of Iran, race riots in Cali, unelected Michelle Obama’s federal take over of school lunches, the O family & O Team bill cost more than the British royal family, inflation, et. al.??!

Let’s not forget about the planned Al Queda attack in Afghanistan at Camp Bastion that killed US Marines….nothing. Not a peep from the media.

Instead, oh look over here ***squirrel!!!*** MsDNC says the crowd chanted “Ryan” not “Romney” and Jazz Shaw is compelled to weigh in because nothing else is going on in the news…….

conservative pilgrim on September 29, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Delsa on September 29, 2012 at 11:09 AM

At the end of this clip is the raw CSPAN video where you can clearly hear Romney! and then he jumps in to change to Romney / Ryan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4lyEOLtUhCM

crazywater on September 29, 2012 at 11:10 AM

I especially like this quote from your link:

Here is the doctored video, MSNBC giving it full airing complete with Fredo Scarborough in full defeatist crouch:

Fredo Scarborough. Heh.

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 11:04 AM

Yeah, that’s funny – but I got that link from another commenter above. Twitchy did a good report on the Fredo doctored tape scandal, too, including the tweets from the MSM reporters who were there.

whatcat on September 29, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Ah, Jazz Shaw once again showing the instincts of an earthworm. Sir, please do NOT insult my intelligence by telling me pMSNBC purposefully put “Ryan! Ryan!” on the chyron when they knew full well the crowd was shouting “Romney! Romney!”.

SouthernGent on September 29, 2012 at 11:11 AM

O/T, but more ammo is always good.

This is the Obama administration explicitly telling defense contractors to break the law (specifically, the WARN act) or else face monetary damages.

http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/industry/259305-omb-tells-contractors-once-again-dont-issue-layoff-notices

Basically, they’re saying that defense contractors can be compensated for layoff-related expenses but only if they don’t tell they’re employees the layoffs are coming!

Guess why? Because the warnings would come just before the election.

I just noticed that HA also has a link to another report:

http://nationaljournal.com/budget/omb-hold-off-on-sequester-layoff-plans-20120928

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 11:12 AM

its very wierd. maybe they were chanting both names. (i do hear ryan in the cspan video) and romney just tries to put order in the confusion by making ppl chanting alternately.

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 11:05 AM

i went trough the cspan tape several times again and i think i can hear both romney and ryan being in the chant…

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 11:12 AM

…and i think

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 11:12 AM

You overestimate yourself.

kingsjester on September 29, 2012 at 11:13 AM

What you think the crowd’s reaction should have been isn’t relevant.
Flora Duh on September 29, 2012 at 10:58 AM

I’m just glad that crowds chanting “Romney!” drive it buggy to no end.
:D

whatcat on September 29, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Mitsouko … FAIL on your reading comprehension … I never said I considered myself moderate , I am a proud liberal Democrat … I was merely speaking the political truth folks like you cost The GOP important moderate votes in Nevada and Delaware ,thus helping The ACA pass and Harry Reid to still rule … so I may come and go on here but you are stuck with Harry Reid for the next 6 years … also if you don’t want Democrats to post on here don’t have open registration ,but I guess you are not the boss around here are you ?

U2denver on September 29, 2012 at 11:15 AM

What I am reading here is a little strange. I can’t believe people are spending time on MSNBC at all, much less wondering if Joe Scar is actually against Romney?

Delsa on September 29, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Morning, Delsa! The point is not that MSNBC Leftist agit-prop site or that Scarborough is a collaborationist scum, the point is that Jazz Shaw is defending them and trying to give them some credibility.

I’m not surprised that MSNBC is shilling for Obama, I’m disappointed that Jazz is helping them.

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 11:16 AM

ok, i do think they were chanting both names, not just ryan or just romney. maybe romney tries to put order in the confusion by making ppl chanting alternately.

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 11:16 AM

how its not relevant!?!?

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 11:08 AM

Because, as difficult as it may be for you to comprehend, what you think the crowd’s reaction should have been doesn’t change the fact that MSNBC’s purpose of showing their doctored version of the video is to push a false narrative.

Flora Duh on September 29, 2012 at 11:16 AM

U2denver on September 29, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Don’t fool yourself. You’re here for the thread count…and comic relief.

kingsjester on September 29, 2012 at 11:17 AM

i went trough the cspan tape several times again and i think i can hear both romney and ryan being in the chant…

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 11:12 AM

And thus your entire point is self-immolated and you just don’t get it, returning you to the ranks of amusing. Yay, Nathor! Good for you!

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 11:18 AM

I am a proud liberal Democrat live on a unicorn farm

U2denver on September 29, 2012 at 11:15 AM

FIFY

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 11:20 AM

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Thanks for posting that. It is clear that Jazz didn’t do his research on this. Thanks for setting the record straight.

Dollayo on September 29, 2012 at 11:20 AM

And thus your entire point is self-immolated and you just don’t get it, returning you to the ranks of amusing. Yay, Nathor! Good for you!

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 11:18 AM

but do you agree with me? cant you hear them both?

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 11:21 AM

The C-Span clip of the event had much better audio and very clearly the crowd chanted “Romney Romney”. In addition, an on scene local TV reporter tweeted in real time that the the crowd chanted “Romney Romney”. MSNBC is the culprit here. They placed the caption “Ryan Ryan” over the video and in the mind of any viewer, that visual would override the poor audio.

SpiderMike on September 29, 2012 at 11:22 AM

The biggest issue of all is that once again, the left’s premise is being accepted and the right is spending time defending itself.

In a sane world, PMSDNC would make a story like this and the right would come out with “Really? Benghazi is burning, Greece and Spain are on the edge of collapse, GDP is hovering near recession, the administration is strong-arming defense contractors to break the law and you are trying to make an introduction at a Republican campaign rally news? Really? How a candidate is introduced and introduces himself and his running mate is newsworthy while the BLS cooking the books (either now or in the past) is not? Is this your opinion of the American voters, that they will judge the capabilities of the future president of the US based upon how a microphone transition occurred?”

Instead, we get a posting telling us how this isn’t conspiratorial on the part of PMSDNC and over 100 posts addressing the PMSDNC premise.

AZfederalist on September 29, 2012 at 11:23 AM

If you really think Scarborough is trying to get Obama reelected, I honestly don’t know what to say to you.

You could say Joe gets his paycheck from a network that IS trying to get Obozo re-elected, and more often than not takes a center left RINO position any time the heat is on.

But that would run counter to the direction of your post, so you avoided it.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on September 29, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Because, as difficult as it may be for you to comprehend, what you think the crowd’s reaction should have been doesn’t change the fact that MSNBC’s purpose of showing their doctored version of the video is to push a false narrative.

Flora Duh on September 29, 2012 at 11:16 AM

honestly, i have seen this story before and I allways found the chant a bit garbled. i dont think msnbc doctored the video, they just put there some subtitles to induce viwers to think ryan was being chanted.
i went trough the msnbc video again and i think i hear first a romney and then 2 ryans.

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 11:25 AM

i hear ryan, not romney! but the what really does not add up is that is not believable that the crowd would chant for romney when he just said these words:

“Wow! That’s quite a guy, isn’t it? Paul Ryan! Isn’t that

what is this? romney praises ryan and the crowd chants romney in response?!??!

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 10:41 AM

You should really check the source before you post bullcrap.

This is edited video you posted from a site that is as liberal as it gets.

Steveangell on September 29, 2012 at 11:26 AM

If there’s a smoke, there must be a fire.

But I, for one, saw it in broad daylight. Romney staff are really jealous of how warmly the conservatives are receiving Ryan in the campaign trail.

TheAlamos on September 29, 2012 at 11:26 AM

But more to the point, it’s a bit of a leap to try to assume some sort of conspiracy on the part of MSNBC here, no matter what your normal inclinations are.

Of course. Like AP and BOR, the old liberal media is always awarded ‘the benefit of the doubt’. What is it, simple professional courtesy, or some kind of perverse need to be a part of the old media club? Terrified that your resume might get the ‘neocon’ stamp in CNN’s HR department?

slickwillie2001 on September 29, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Scarborough is one of the few conservatives given time on MSNBC (though you should also check out S.E. Cupp on “The Cycle” in the afternoon) and it’s kind of self defeating to tear down one of the reasonable voices on the network

Wholeheartedly disagree here, Jazz. Scarborough used to be a conservative, but sadly that ship has sailed. I wish it weren’t so.

Red Cloud on September 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM

gumbyandpokey on September 29, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Back at work I see. Do you have any knowledge on any other subject? I bet you’re a bore a parties cuz you sure are here.

CW on September 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM

but do you agree with me? cant you hear them both?

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Thanks for asking! No, I don’t agree. In one clip I hear pretty clearly “Romney, Romney”, and in the other I hear something garbled that could be either Ryan or Romney, followed clearly by Romney. In either case, the “Romney” is clear.

And if you do a little research, everybody who was onsite heard Romney, Romney.

So no, I don’t agree.

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM

The C-Span clip of the event had much better audio and very clearly the crowd chanted “Romney Romney”. In addition, an on scene local TV reporter tweeted in real time that the the crowd chanted “Romney Romney”. MSNBC is the culprit here. They placed the caption “Ryan Ryan” over the video and in the mind of any viewer, that visual would override the poor audio.

SpiderMike on September 29, 2012 at 11:22 AM

exactly! it is the subtitles that induce the interpretation! but i think they were chanting both. some people chanted romney and others ryan. the names are phonetically similar, so it a mess.

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Another “turd in a punchbowl” post from Jazz. With the exception of when he talked about his dog that died, I really haven’t appreciated reading what he has had to say.

gracie on September 29, 2012 at 9:59 AM

I’m afraid Jazz is turning out to be a bit if a Nothing Burger.

The very fact that MSNBC felt it necessary to subtitle chanting shows they were fitting the material to the narrative. It’s undeniable.

TedInATL on September 29, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Steveangell on September 29, 2012 at 11:26 AM

You to back at work. Get a life . What a loser.

CW on September 29, 2012 at 11:29 AM

Kingsjester … I would reply but there is nothing to reply to

U2denver on September 29, 2012 at 11:29 AM

This one bears repeating:

Go to this link. A lady who was there tells them she was there and they were chanting Romney. The guys (Pat and Stu) weren’t buying it, but they replayed the video. Their reaction is priceless.

Evidently Jazz couldn’t be bothered to do a little research.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/greghengler/2012/09/28/msnbc_caught_doctoring_clip_from_romneyryan_rally

If you listen to the cadence of his voice, he’s clearing telling people to ad “Ryan” to their chant of “Romney”. MSNBC and Old Joe are carrying the water, and Jazz is helping.

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 10:58 AM

What appears to be an unpopular Romney seeking appreciation and attention from a Paul Ryan-infatuated audience is really a man who is generously deflecting attention away from himself onto his VP nominee.

I think HA can do better than following an MSM policy of not researching a story before commenting on it.

Thx go to AJsDaddie.

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on September 29, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Mr. Shaw, if you listen closely to the MSNBC clip, then to the undoctored CSPAN footage of the same event, the “sweetening” of the soundtrack is very clear. I’m frankly surprised that it’s as sloppy and amateurish job as it is; the “Ryan!” chant cuts off so fast, it’s like the engineer just cranked it from 10 to zero with a flick of the wrist. You don’t mention having listened to the CSPAN audio in the piece. I suggest you do so.

datripp on September 29, 2012 at 11:32 AM

I am a proud liberal Democrat … I was merely speaking the political truth folks like you cost The GOP important moderate votes in Nevada and Delaware ,thus helping The ACA pass and Harry Reid to still rule … so I may come and go on here but you are stuck with Harry Reid for the next 6 years … also if you don’t want Democrats to post on here don’t have open registration ,but I guess you are not the boss around here are you ?

U2denver on September 29, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Well, getting your timeline straight would be a good start, but then as a proud liberal democrat, we don’t have very high expectations of that from you.

Obamacare had already passed when those elections had occurred, so on premise 1, you fail.

Harry Reid still being in office has as much to do with the unions sending out orders to get their members bussed to the polls on election day and other general democrat election day shenanigans as anything else.

Delaware? That’s one of those questions of whether we would have been better served by having another Lincoln Chaffee/Olympia Snow/Susan Collins liberal in congress or not. The scandal there was the fact that the Republican establishment cut our candidate off at the knees. It’s kind of hard to run against both parties, especially when one of them is your own.

AZfederalist on September 29, 2012 at 11:32 AM

honestly, i have seen this story before and I allways found the chant a bit garbled. i dont think msnbc doctored the video, they just put there some subtitles to induce viwers to think ryan was being chanted.
i went trough the msnbc video again and i think i hear first a romney and then 2 ryans.

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Good going, Nathor! Despite yourself, you’ve just admitted that MSNBC actively distorts the news in an attempt to discredit Romney. You’re edging towards the light!

And then you follow it up by proving that what MSNBC did actually works (at least amongst those predisposed to the Left). And that’s the really insidious part!

So, in your own way, you actually are doing more for the Conservative cause and for Romney than Jazz Shaw, and that is the very sad point of this whole thread.

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Pat Caddell Says: Media Have Become an “Enemy of the American people”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBR4g6cBYeA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

redguy on September 29, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Pat Caddell is correct. MSM is anti-American, anti-capitalist to the core. It is corrupt and it is the enemy.

MSM probably expects bail-outs and subsidies (especially newspapers) in a second term for Øbama. Not to mention a new regulatory framework that returns MSM to monopoly status.

petefrt on September 29, 2012 at 11:35 AM

How about we control any urges we have of chanting any politicians name?

Cindy Munford on September 29, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Morning, Delsa! The point is not that MSNBC Leftist agit-prop site or that Scarborough is a collaborationist scum, the point is that Jazz Shaw is defending them and trying to give them some credibility.

I’m not surprised that MSNBC is shilling for Obama, I’m disappointed that Jazz is helping them.

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 11:16 AM

AJsDaddie you are so right. My question is…What is Jazz smoking today? I don’t even know the Comcast channel numbers for MSNBC. And I agree with you

Delsa on September 29, 2012 at 11:35 AM

i dont think msnbc doctored the video, they just put there some subtitles to induce viwers to think ryan was being chanted.

nathor on September 29, 2012 at 11:25 AM

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Flora Duh on September 29, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Because, as difficult as it may be for you to comprehend, what you think the crowd’s reaction should have been doesn’t change the fact that MSNBC’s purpose of showing their doctored version of the video is to push a false narrative.

Flora Duh on September 29, 2012 at 11:16 AM

Every person that is going to vote for obambi should be completely embarrased for themselves. To allow the media to lie to you so blatantly and you to lap it up like the good libby that you are is disgusting. Go get your obamaphone and call the wambulance for your free stuff. Makes me sick.

VegasRick on September 29, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Flora Duh on September 29, 2012 at 11:36 AM

…oh, the Picard Facepalm. Thanks for that, Flora…

[chuckling]

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 11:38 AM

You to back at work. Get a life . What a loser.

CW on September 29, 2012 at 11:29 AM

So you post a link to a site that uses that video to support MSNBC claiming it is not biased just original video.

Right.

You do live in a fantasy world.

One where no site would alter a video to support their viewpoint.

Steveangell on September 29, 2012 at 11:38 AM

but I guess you are not the boss around here are you ?

U2denver on September 29, 2012 at 11:15 AM

No, I’m not the boss of you. Feel better? Now go and have some cookies and milk.

Mitsouko on September 29, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Every person that is going to vote for obambi should be completely embarrased for themselves. To allow the media to lie to you so blatantly and you to lap it up like the good libby that you are is disgusting. Go get your obamaphone and call the wambulance for your free stuff. Makes me sick.

VegasRick on September 29, 2012 at 11:37 AM

You know, that’s a great point, Rick. At what point does even the most ardent Obama supporter begin to feel just a little slimy about being manipulated by this unholy alliance of freeloaders, hacks and sycophants?

If you’re even slightly on the fence, how do you not realize that if they’re lying NOW how much more they will lie once they’re in power? And in a lame-duck presidency no less?

Sure, the very low-information voter, the Obama phone ladies of the world, and the true parasites will all vote for the “Free Stuff” party, but how does a self-respecting independent even consider voting for this pile of lies?

Is it just me, or is this campaign looking more and more like a guy in a wife-beater tee-shirt knocking at the door with a few straggly roses and a promise that he’ll do better next time?

AJsDaddie on September 29, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Pat Caddell is correct. MSM is anti-American, anti-capitalist to the core. It is corrupt and it is the enemy.

MSM probably expects bail-outs and subsidies (especially newspapers) in a second term for Øbama. Not to mention a new regulatory framework that returns MSM to monopoly status.

petefrt on September 29, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Read Caddell’s piece on Breitbart from yesterday if you haven’t. He implores Romney to go on the attack against the media like many of us have been saying for months as the clock runs out. Not happening though…Mitt’s too keen on his hair to set it on fire.

RepubChica on September 29, 2012 at 11:44 AM

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