Panetta on sequestration: I’ll take “whatever the hell deal” they can make

posted at 5:21 pm on September 27, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta has already made it clear that the upcoming sequestration cuts currently set to take place in January, which would shave nearly $500 billion from an already-”leaner” military and defense budget, would be practically “unworkable” and a “disaster.” But, even worse than the damage that the cuts themselves will inflict, is the not knowing whether or how those cuts are going to actually take place ahead of time, and thereby being unable to properly and carefully plan for them. In a press conference today, Panetta attested to his department’s difficulty in responding to whatever the new budget will look like without being afforded any real time to do so. Via the WFB:

I’ll take whatever the hell deal they can make right now to deal with sequestration. The problem — the problem now is that they’ve left town and all this has now been put off until the lame-duck session. So, it’s extremely important that when they return after the election, they take steps to deal not just with this issue, but with the larger fiscal cliff issue that this country is facing. We… cannot maintain a strong defense for this country if sequester is allowed to happen, number one. But, very frankly, just the shadow of sequester being out there continually is something that… it basically creates a problem for us as we try to plan for the future. What exactly, you know, what are we going to be facing? How are we going to deal with it? We need stability. You want a strong national defense for this country? I need to have some stability. And that’s what I’m asking the Congress to do. Give me some stability with regards to the funding of the Defense Department.

Just like all of the uncertainty the Obama administration has created for businesses with their many still-being-written-and-dissected regulations, gumming up the works of the private sector, the lack of stability isn’t doing the Defense Department any favors for planning purposes — and I can’t say that I’m any more comfortable with uncertainty in the area of national security than I am with free enterprise.


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Prezzy might toss you a few free phones….

hillsoftx on September 27, 2012 at 5:28 PM

He’ll take Bishop! and be happy with it!

PolAgnostic on September 27, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Oh darn it, we gonna be in trouble!!

Scrumpy on September 27, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Give me some stability with regards to the funding of the Defense Department. – Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta

If he really wants some stability for the funding of the Defense Department, Leon Panetta should vote for Mitt Romney in November.

wren on September 27, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Lol, man I wish I could get me a phree fone!!

The Louse in da House has got to be FIRED!

Scrumpy on September 27, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Puppet on a string. Leon go out and dance and keep the crowd from looking behind the curtain.

Limerick on September 27, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Maybe, Leon … and I am just talking off the top of my head here …

… you should have stood up for the Military in July and August of 2011 !!!!

You liberal POS!

Juat maybe, you know?

PolAgnostic on September 27, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Ramirez Editorial Cartoons

sharrukin on September 27, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Panetta attested to his department’s difficulty in responding to whatever the new budget will look like

Budget? Do they still do budgets?
That’s so 2008

OTTO on September 27, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Dude was a former Repub 4 decades ago…betting money he has regrets..

hillsoftx on September 27, 2012 at 5:38 PM

If he really wants some stability for the funding of the Defense Department, Leon Panetta should vote for Mitt Romney in November.

wren on September 27, 2012 at 5:29 PM

OK, that’s your second WINNER from me this evening.

Just one more and you win the prize.

OTTO on September 27, 2012 at 5:39 PM

No. No, no, no.

Let the defense cuts happen. Let me say that again, lest my fellow conservatives not understand what I’m saying: Let the defense cuts happen!

It’s time we conservatives wake up to the fact that our country is broke. In fact, we are way past broke. We are $16 trillion in debt. And we are not going to ever get serious about solving that if we exempt from the discussion our eternal sacred cow of the military.

These cuts are $500 million over ten years. Trust me, the military can make do with $50 million less per year than their current projected budget. Our defense budget is projected to be roughly $553 billion — with a b — dollars for fiscal 2012. If you don’t think there is enough room in the military budget to shave $50 million off of that, you’re deluding yourself.

The only solution to the fiscal crisis we are in is to swallow hard, take a deep breath, and accept that it is time for massive across the board spending cuts, and no program, department, or agency can be exempt.

Shump on September 27, 2012 at 5:39 PM

Yep, this is going to be bad. So, are the non-defense cuts going to go into effect as well, or is this once again going to be only the Defense budget taking the hit?

AZfederalist on September 27, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Ramirez Editorial Cartoons

sharrukin on September 27, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Pure genius.

AZfederalist on September 27, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Obama: Spin is cheaper than defense.

PackerBronco on September 27, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Just like all of the uncertainty the Obama administration has created for businesses with their many still-being-written-and-dissected regulations, gumming up the works of the private sector, the lack of stability isn’t doing the Defense Department any favors for planning purposes — and I can’t say that I’m any more comfortable with uncertainty in the area of national security than I am with free enterprise.

Watch 2016 Obama’s America
This is explained.

Obama’s vision make America just as weak as the rest of the World. No more exceptional than any other Nation.

To Obama the top 1% includes every single American. He looks at it as the top 1% in the world.

Obviously Mitt Romney never watched this or read his book. Or Romney is actually in favor of this. I sure hope it is the first.

If Romney exposed the real Obama he would win in the biggest landslide ever. But does he have the guts to do it?

Steveangell on September 27, 2012 at 5:43 PM

Shump on September 27, 2012 at 5:39 PM

Depends on your priorities, I guess. If I’m gonna be broke from taxes I’d rather it was with a 500 ship Navy than a 150 million welfare-free phone society.

Limerick on September 27, 2012 at 5:43 PM

OK, that’s your second WINNER from me this evening.

Just one more and you win the prize.

OTTO on September 27, 2012 at 5:39 PM

Thank you, OTTO! I love a good challenge!

wren on September 27, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Obama: Spin is cheaper than defense.

PackerBronco on September 27, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Remeber the “SIT AND SPIN”?

I want one with O’s face on the bottom.

OTTO on September 27, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Pure genius.

AZfederalist on September 27, 2012 at 5:41 PM

It does accurately describe the situation.

sharrukin on September 27, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Thank you, OTTO! I love a good challenge!

wren on September 27, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Watch out what you wish for!

OTTO on September 27, 2012 at 5:46 PM

The only thing that keeps those words on the parchment is steel. No steel, the words are useless.

Limerick on September 27, 2012 at 5:46 PM

These cuts are $500 million BILLION over ten years. Trust me, the military can make do with $50 million BILLION less per year than their current projected budget. Our defense budget is projected to be roughly $553 billion — with a b — dollars for fiscal 2012. If you don’t think there is enough room in the military budget to shave $50 million off of that, you’re deluding yourself.

The only solution to the fiscal crisis we are in is to swallow hard, take a deep breath, and accept that it is time for massive across the board spending cuts, and no program, department, or agency can be exempt.

Shump on September 27, 2012 at 5:39 PM

.
Given that you have reading comprehension and severe math problems, you will understand how no conservatives will trust you on this one, right?

PolAgnostic on September 27, 2012 at 5:47 PM

These cuts are $500 million over ten years. Trust me, the military can make do with $50 million less per year than their current projected budget. Our defense budget is projected to be roughly $553 billion — with a b — dollars for fiscal 2012. If you don’t think there is enough room in the military budget to shave $50 million off of that, you’re deluding yourself.

The only solution to the fiscal crisis we are in is to swallow hard, take a deep breath, and accept that it is time for massive across the board spending cuts, and no program, department, or agency can be exempt.

Shump on September 27, 2012 at 5:39 PM

No, the cuts are $500 BILLION over 10 years, or $50 BILLION per year. That is significant and will have an impact on the military.

Now, if the cuts would take place by implementing more rationalized process, such as raising the cap for when earned value management programs are required above the current $20M contract limit or to contracting process requiring a specific percentage of business be SDB (Small disadvantaged businesses — that get an advantage because they are disadvantaged) contracts or other of the myriad byzantine contracting processes, this would make sense. Problem is, that’s not where those cuts will occur. Some of those byzantine process requirements were implemented by Congress years ago in response to a single perceived or real problem and have never been revisited. The cuts are going to occur in myriad $5 to $50M development contracts that are the seeds of the military advantage in the future. This is not a good thing.

AZfederalist on September 27, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Maybe Leon should contact Harry Reid about budget advice.

GarandFan on September 27, 2012 at 5:48 PM

Might try going back to the deal that Obama and Boehner originally struck before Obama decided to play a last minute game of chicken with our economy. But I don’t think Obama’s ego will let him do that.

crosspatch on September 27, 2012 at 5:50 PM

If Romney exposed the real Obama he would win in the biggest landslide ever. But does he have the guts to do it?

Steveangell on September 27, 2012 at 5:43 PM

If ALL conservative Americans were working hard to help Romney to expose the real Obama, the U.S. media wouldn’t be able to protect Obama.

Saving a country is a TEAM effort! Let’s roll!

wren on September 27, 2012 at 5:51 PM

I want mah free fone! Free fone! Free fone!

Vote Obama 2012!

…and free skrimps. I want me some free skrimps too, Grrrrl!

FlatFoot on September 27, 2012 at 5:53 PM

If you cannot get your 1.5Billion round rounds of ammo only usuable against American Citizens civilian national defense force to be as well financed as the military, bring the military down to their level!

astonerii on September 27, 2012 at 5:54 PM

Ramirez Editorial Cartoons

sharrukin on September 27, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Dang! That cartoon hits the nail on the head.

Now I understand why Obama is doing well in the polls with women.

On behalf of my gender, I apologize!

wren on September 27, 2012 at 5:55 PM

Saving a country is a TEAM effort! Let’s roll!

wren on September 27, 2012 at 5:51 PM

If all Conservatives helped Romney… Team Effort…

Something just does not match up there. Something seems to be wrong… I dunno, maybe some of the supra geniuses that thought Romney was a good candidate back in the primary can take those two things and tell me what it is that does not align…

astonerii on September 27, 2012 at 5:56 PM

The only solution to the fiscal crisis we are in is to swallow hard, take a deep breath, and accept that it is time for massive across the board spending cuts, and no program, department, or agency can be exempt.

Shump on September 27, 2012 at 5:39 PM

As painful as that will be, I can see the logic. I just hate the thought of our warfighters, who are already carrying so much, getting screwed over. ‘Cuz you know how this works, don’t you? It’s just what the CA legislature did when Prop 13 passed back in 1978: They didn’t cut any of their pet programs — oh, no! They cried and wailed and shrieked and made sure to cut the programs that were most highly visible to and loved by the public: Firefighters, park rangers, libraries… We told ‘em to cut the fat, and they cut the bone and muscle to protect their precious fat instead.

I do not want this to happen to our military, but I’m a French onion if I can see any way to make Congress cut the fat and not the muscle, unless we have a significant turnover of both houses in January.

/keeping calm and carrying on

Mary in LA on September 27, 2012 at 5:56 PM

The only thing that keeps those words on the parchment is steel. No steel, the words are useless.

Limerick on September 27, 2012 at 5:46 PM

So the pen isn’t mightier than the sword?
Never liked that phrase.

True, This! —
Beneath the rule of men entirely great,
The pen is mightier than the sword. Behold
The arch-enchanters wand! — itself a nothing! —
But taking sorcery from the master-hand
To paralyse the Cæsars, and to strike
The loud earth breathless! — Take away the sword —
States can be saved without it!

States can be saved, yes.
Defended, no.

OTTO on September 27, 2012 at 5:56 PM

Now I understand why Obama is doing well in the polls with women.

On behalf of my gender, I apologize!

wren on September 27, 2012 at 5:55 PM

Heh

Can you imagine being a black conservative?

sharrukin on September 27, 2012 at 5:58 PM

Leon Panetta continues to demonstrate how unqualified and ill-suited he is for he position.

Pork-Chop on September 27, 2012 at 5:59 PM

OT: Mitt loosens up – Gangnam style

faraway on September 27, 2012 at 5:59 PM

Ramirez Editorial Cartoons

sharrukin on September 27, 2012 at 5:35 PM

That is frackin’ brilliant. That cartoon should be everywhere, on everything.

Mary in LA on September 27, 2012 at 6:00 PM

There will be no deal this year, and if Dingy Harry has any say (and he will as the Only Member of Congress Who Matters), there will be no deal next year either.

Steve Eggleston on September 27, 2012 at 6:01 PM

no program, department, or agency can be exempt.

Shump on September 27, 2012 at 5:39 PM

You know what, here is where some are more equal than other’s come into play…

Downright get rid of several agencies.

its popular among Americans. Why is it not popular with Romney?

Lock the damned budget to what we get in tax receipts.

its popular with Americans. Why is not popular with Romney?

The military, it is the ONE THING we spend money on that is right there in the constitution as the responsibility of the Federal Government, along with the courts and a few, VERY FREAKING FEW other things.

astonerii on September 27, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Recall this sequestration deal came down to Obama pushing for another $400 million in taxes after a deal was reached and Boehner walking away. Until we get more reinforcements in DC I’d say Boehner made the right call.

Shump’s numbers may be off by a few orders of magnitude but his principals are intact. This is what we get with democrats in charge. Pity we have to keep learning this lesson isn’t it?

DanMan on September 27, 2012 at 6:04 PM

When you choose not to decide, you still have made an ass of yourself.

Throw the bums out.

logis on September 27, 2012 at 6:04 PM

Maybe Leon should contact Harry Reid about budget advice.

GarandFan on September 27, 2012 at 5:48 PM

…and if Panetta is worried…you have to realize how fracked/fluked up the military…and we are!

KOOLAID2 on September 27, 2012 at 6:04 PM

DanMan on September 27, 2012 at 6:04 PM

Nothing gets forced to happen when you control the house. It is a 100% purely mob rules place.

astonerii on September 27, 2012 at 6:05 PM

OT: boy is wolfie in a tizzy….
john king is at an iowa college where early voting is taking place and they are all obama voters apparently at this precinct

the election is over, obama is going to win based on the voters voting today according to cnn

IDIOTS

cmsinaz on September 27, 2012 at 6:07 PM

astonerii on September 27, 2012 at 6:05 PM

one word…Harry Reid

They are spending on a cruise control budget dems put in place in March 2009 and it appears nothing short of anarchy will stop it. This ain’t Bush’s fault. This is pure deliberate ruination.

DanMan on September 27, 2012 at 6:09 PM

112th (2011-2013)
193 Democrats
242 Republicans

Hmmm, who had power to stop this thing? Who, who, who could have been the adult in the room? I just am not sure, WHO it could have been that we voted into power to stop this from happening… Who who who was it?

But hey! If you give us more power, like 2001 through 2007, we promise this time we will, um, well right now we are not promising a damned thing.

astonerii on September 27, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Seriously, it’s getting to the point where we deserve all this crap for being stupid enough to elect that idiot in the first place. If we reelect him I refuse to feel sorry for anyone when the country collapses.

Cyhort on September 27, 2012 at 6:11 PM

They are spending on a cruise control budget dems put in place in March 2009 and it appears nothing short of anarchy will stop it. This ain’t Bush’s fault. This is pure deliberate ruination.

DanMan on September 27, 2012 at 6:09 PM

So, we still did not have to agree to automatic reductions and tax increases if Obama decided to destroy America more. We could have just left it on glider path.

astonerii on September 27, 2012 at 6:11 PM

Nothing gets forced to happen when you control the house happens in the Senate. It is a 10051% purely mob rules place.

astonerii on September 27, 2012 at 6:05 PM

FIFY

OTTO on September 27, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Bassically what we got was. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING! QUICK BLOW ANOTHER HOLE IN THE SIDE OF THE SHIP!

astonerii on September 27, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Can you imagine being a black conservative?

sharrukin on September 27, 2012 at 5:58 PM

The closest I can come is to let you know I am a Conservative in an extremely blue area, where Republicans/Conservatives are the only people who it is politically correct to hate.

So I know how challenging it can be to be a political minority.

But after watching the video of the black woman gushing about her free Obama-phone today, I think it is becoming increasingly embarrassing to be a black Liberal (or any other kind of liberal)!

Stay strong fellow Conservatives! We have a country to save!

wren on September 27, 2012 at 6:15 PM

Shump on September 27, 2012 at 5:39 PM

sacred cow? ummm no no no… its no such thing. Military is one of the FEW things that is the responsibility of the Federal Government that is outlined in the US Constitution.

astonerii on September 27, 2012 at 6:03 PM

yes EXACTLY. Well said. Saw it as I was putting this reply together.

maineconservative on September 27, 2012 at 6:16 PM

OTTO on September 27, 2012 at 6:12 PM

All financial bills start in the House. ALL OF THEM by constitutional requirements.

So, your argument fails. We controlled the house. All we had to do was nothing and we would have been in better shape.

Instead, Boehner allowed the Democrats to set him up for a lose lose proposition he had no need to ever take.

Bassically what we got was Boehner deciding. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING! QUICK BLOW ANOTHER HOLE IN THE SIDE OF THE SHIP! As a solution.

But hey, give them more power, they will totally outsmart the democrats. Especially when the republicans, ESPECIALLY Romney who loves to work with Democrats if you were unaware, demand to have bipartisan bills instead of having only conservatives voting for the bills.

I’m in a bad mood again. I can tell.

astonerii on September 27, 2012 at 6:16 PM

astonerii on September 27, 2012 at 6:16 PM

BTW I answered your thorium question on the other thread.
Interesting.

OTTO on September 27, 2012 at 6:25 PM

This state of affairs is what happens when you leave an irresponsible kid alone in the White House with access to the credit card.

Constitutional duties get ignored, and all the money gets spent on golf, video games, and (when Michelle isn’t looking) junk food.

landlines on September 27, 2012 at 6:26 PM

OTTO on September 27, 2012 at 6:23 PM

I know they passed bills and nothing happened with them.

The problem here is the sequestration. We never had to agree to it. We could have just let everything keep going… It was an add on to the Debt limit increase bill. The republicans did everything in their power to destroy their credibility after the 2010 elections. This is one of those things.

It did not need to be passed. hell, they did not have to increase the debt limit and forced cuts that way. The other thing they could have done was a clean debt limit increase. or they could have put other demands on the debt limit increase. Instead, they chose to go this route, and now, once again, Republicans are painted into their own freaking corner by their own stupidity and honestly! I think they did it on purpose because they AGREE WITH OBAMA, they just want the power for themselves after Obama is gone.

astonerii on September 27, 2012 at 6:28 PM

Given that you have reading comprehension and severe math problems, you will understand how no conservatives will trust you on this one, right?

PolAgnostic on September 27, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Is there some reason that people on the Internet have an instinctive need to be insulting instead of just discussing something?

Regardless, my point still stands. If it’s a $50 billion per year cut, then that’s about a 10% cut each year. Which sounds good to me. I’d like to see every single part of government get slashed 10%. And not just 10% less projected growth. Take the actual amount spent last year and cut it by 10%. And that would just be a good start.

Sorry, I just happen to believe that the defense budget is as much a bloated monster as every other part of our budget, and I believe that if we actually got our national security priorities straight in every way from avoiding getting involved in unnecessary conflicts to not making decisions about bases and weapons systems based on which constituency has the highest voter turnout this year, we could drastically cut the defense budget and still be secure.

But let me be clear… I’m not advocating the liberal approach of cutting defense and nothing else. I want this approach across the board. Discretionary spending, education, Social Security, Medicare… slash it all.

Shump on September 27, 2012 at 6:32 PM

BTW I answered your thorium question on the other thread.
Interesting.

OTTO on September 27, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Tritium has to be produced. it is not a naturally abundent material. It can be used in FUSION reactors but I have not seen anything for it being used in fission reactors. it is a byproduct of fission reactions, but is hard to extract from those.

Thorium is abundant. NextBigFuture used to talk about it all the time. They had working reactors back in the 50s and 60s but it was not weaponizable (that is a word, right?) and so the US government did not want to go that route. They wanted the weapons.

astonerii on September 27, 2012 at 6:35 PM

I am feeling a bit heavy. I noticed I am about 10% overweight. I think I can just chop off 10%. Close my eyes and start whacking away. I sure hope i did not cut something important!

astonerii on September 27, 2012 at 6:37 PM

Thorium is abundant. NextBigFuture used to talk about it all the time. They had working reactors back in the 50s and 60s but it was not weaponizable (that is a word, right?) and so the US government did not want to go that route. They wanted the weapons.

astonerii on September 27, 2012 at 6:35 PM

I read about that years ago and felt literally sick to my stomach. “We can’t make bombs to blow up the Reds with them so scrap the things” is such an idiotic policy.

MelonCollie on September 27, 2012 at 6:40 PM

This may be anecdotal but I think the military is already working on budget cutting. It seems that here in Colorado Springs at Fort Carson,,there are a lot of young troops that have been returning from the sandbox,,,are being” chaptered” out of the Army. From people I have been speaking with, they seem to be saying that there is an increase in totals.I would not put it past the DOD to have put out a directive as to cut people as fast as possible. That idiot Dempsey is probably behind it if in fact that has happened.

retiredeagle on September 27, 2012 at 6:54 PM

Maybe, Leon … and I am just talking off the top of my head here …

… you should have stood up for the Military in July and August of 2011 !!!!

You liberal POS!

Just maybe, you know?

PolAgnostic on September 27, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Bingo.And make NO MISTAKE, anyone that voted for the debt ceiling/super commitee bullsh1t voted to strip our military.

JusDreamin on September 27, 2012 at 6:57 PM

This is the “Obama Way”! The unimportant things, the things that hurt Tax Payers, The Things Obama Thinks will make him look good,Those have all priority! The Important things of National Security, things that help the Economy, things that improve job climate, terrorism, true allies, well… that’s just noise! Dead Americans,eh… “Bumps in the Road”. Thank You Obama & the Enemy media that covers for you!

Update:How Politicians need to deal with the “Obama Enemy media: http://paratisiusa.blogspot.com/2012/09/an-open-letter-to-those-who-should-know.html?spref=tw

God Bless America!

paratisi on September 27, 2012 at 7:04 PM

I would not put it past the DOD to have put out a directive as to cut people as fast as possible. That idiot Dempsey is probably behind it if in fact that has happened.

retiredeagle on September 27, 2012 at 6:54 PM

I met a Marine Officer Lt Col out at 24 years. He said they were reducing ranks very quickly.

astonerii on September 27, 2012 at 7:05 PM

So the pen isn’t mightier than the sword?
Never liked that phrase….

OTTO on September 27, 2012 at 5:56 PM

Reminds me of Lord Chamberlain’s we have peace in our time. Before the ink was dry the swords came out(and the Luftwaffe)

Don L on September 27, 2012 at 7:10 PM

The problem here is the sequestration. We never had to agree to it. We could have just let everything keep going… It was an add on to the Debt limit increase bill. The republicans did everything in their power to destroy their credibility after the 2010 elections. This is one of those things.

It did not need to be passed. hell, they did not have to increase the debt limit and forced cuts that way. The other thing they could have done was a clean debt limit increase. or they could have put other demands on the debt limit increase. Instead, they chose to go this route, and now, once again, Republicans are painted into their own freaking corner by their own stupidity and honestly! I think they did it on purpose because they AGREE WITH OBAMA, they just want the power for themselves after Obama is gone.

astonerii on September 27, 2012 at 6:28 PM

You seem to assume that Obama would have eventually backed down.

He would not have.

Obama would love nothing more than to see America implode. After all our Embassy is attacked and our Ambassador assassinated. Obama’s response was to go party in Las Vegas. (By the way where is that ad Mitt?)

But I do fault the Establishment Republicans like the House and Senate leaders for not understanding even now who Obama actually is. Obama is a freedom fighter against America. He is Osama Bin Laden only he operates political jihad instead of physical jihad. Only difference.

Steveangell on September 27, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Steveangell on September 27, 2012 at 7:24 PM

You missed my clean debt ceiling bill? It actually would have been preferable to this fiasco. How can Obama Back down from a CLEAN bill with no attachments?

astonerii on September 27, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Say goodbye to the once greatest and most powerful military in the world. All the brain dead politicians and pandering military dolts are about to throw it in the trash heap of stupidity.

rplat on September 27, 2012 at 8:40 PM

guess what? we don’t have any money.

guess what? it’s the republican’s fault that we’re heading over this cliff

tlynch001 on September 27, 2012 at 9:14 PM

I went through cuts under clinton and it was ugly. We were not prepared for war. War requires equipment and we lacked it big time. Chain of command flat out lied about our readiness, apple-carts and all. Tried to shift blame downward. It’s why I got out.

wolly4321 on September 27, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Shump, the people who are going to be most affected are people like our disabled child who needs medical care but Tricare (military insurance) won’t even give us an answer to whether or not they will keep paying her bills after September 30th. My husband and I are both unemployed thanks to Obummer and we will have to declare bankruptcy if we are stuck with all the bills our child runs up. Then I guess my whole family will be eligible for Medicaid.

If you had a disabled child I seriously doubt this situation would be acceptable to you. The government needs to stop breaking their promises to retirees or they are going to have a very serious recruiting problem. None of our children will be joining the military due to broken government promises and we actively discourage everyone we know from joining.

sherrimae on September 28, 2012 at 12:28 AM