Fiasco: 15 days later, FBI still can’t gain access to Benghazi consulate

posted at 3:21 pm on September 27, 2012 by Allahpundit

I know you’ve already read a bunch of Libya posts today but you’re going to have to read a few more because this is indeed now a “major scandal,” from the lack of security at the consulate before the attack to the White House lies afterward about a “spontaneous” reaction to the Mohammed movie to the baffling failure of the FBI to get access to the consulate afterward. Two possibilities, neither one good for the administration. Either the FBI’s been frozen out by bureaucratic infighting or they can’t get access due to the Libyan government’s inability — or unwillingness — to secure the building for a few days of investigation. Whatever the answer, as veteran Robert Caruso said today on Twitter, it’s hard to have a law-enforcement approach to terrorism without law enforcement.

Former Bush advisor Fran Townsend says her sources are pointing to both explanations:

“They had difficulty, and we understand there was some bureaucratic infighting between the FBI and Justice Department on the one hand, and the State Department on the other, and so it took them longer than they would have liked to get into country. They’ve now gotten there. But they still are unable to get permission to go to Benghazi.”

FBI agents have made a request through the U.S. State Department for the crime scene to be secured, Townsend said, but that has not happened.

“The senior law enforcement official I spoke to said, ‘If we get there now, it’s not clear that it will be of any use to us,’” Townsend said.

The FBI team has conducted interviews of State Department and U.S. government personnel who were in Libya at the time of the attack, Townsend said, but the FBI’s request to directly question individuals who Libyan authorities have in custody was denied.

Former CIA analyst Bob Baer also thinks the Libyans are being uncooperative, and says he can’t remember a case where the FBI’s been barred from the scene of an attack since Iran 1979. Why the Libyan government would refuse to let the feds in to look around, I have no idea, but it’s highly suspicious given that they’re potentially risking U.S. foreign aid by refusing the request. The alternative explanation, that they want to let the feds in but simply can’t reliably secure the area with so many militias running around, is actually worse because it underscores just how perilous the situation was for Chris Stevens and the consulate without a serious American security detail. That’s what ABC says is happening: Benghazi’s just too dangerous for a U.S. government agency to be picking through the rubble, even though CNN and other media have found ways to gain access to the site. And yet, apparently, Stevens’s superiors decided he’d be better off with less security, not more. Huh.

I’ll leave you with this, from today’s Journal editorial: “Imagine the uproar if, barely a month before Election Day, the Bush Administration had responded to a terrorist strike—on Sept. 11 no less—in this fashion.”


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The Washington Post and CNN are getting religion.
Just for verbaluce – they are not Fox.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Nah. Verbaluce will only believe if MSNBC and Daily Kos come around.

Bitter Clinger on September 27, 2012 at 4:03 PM

This just in from the Main Stream Media…

Back to you, Bob.

Wyznowski on September 27, 2012 at 4:03 PM

SparkPlug on September 27, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Indeed, you and Jackie, with one exception. Carter lived long enough to see that Obama will be the worst president in history.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2012 at 3:48 PM

yeah. And may Barry forever live in a Habitat for Humility Shack.

SparkPlug on September 27, 2012 at 4:04 PM

I’ll give you a far more plausible explanation, Allah.

The State Department will make NO statement until after the FBI investigation is complete.

There will be NO FBI investigation.

There will be NO statement on WHO to blame from State.

How convenient.

GarandFan on September 27, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Maybe the FBI is waiting for their Obamaphones to arrive before jump starting their investigation. Whatever, it is all so very sad. I feel for the families of these 4 Americans.

FastTalker on September 27, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Obama: “”Benghazi? I heard of that. Isn’t it in Morocco some place?

MaiDee on September 27, 2012 at 4:03 PM

Moroccan language is tough to decipher, I tell you.

riddick on September 27, 2012 at 4:06 PM

the FBI’s request to directly question individuals who Libyan authorities have in custody was denied.

sharrukin on September 27, 2012 at 4:01 PM

Their is actually a different and surprisingly rational explanation for that. Islamic law demands that the individuals responsible for Ambassador Stevens murder be put to death. Islamic tradition also makes it a transgression worthy of death to allow an infidel to bring charges against a Muslim that would result in the Muslim being charged with a death sentence crime.

SWalker on September 27, 2012 at 4:06 PM

This is more liberal BS that the FBI should be able to operate outside of the USA. Just wait till Barry reverses this and says the Military can operate WITHIN the USA.

Oh Wait….

Bulletchaser on September 27, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Because there aren’t any “individuals in custody”. Should be obvious by now that Libyan government was part of the attack.

riddick on September 27, 2012 at 4:03 PM

I am not sure its that clear of a connection. It’s likely they have links to the attackers and they don’t want those links exposed IMO.

sharrukin on September 27, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Maybe the FBI is just too busy hunting down people who insult the prophet of Islam.

The Rogue Tomato on September 27, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Fiasco: 15 days later, FBI still can’t gain access to Benghazi consulate
…yeah, cnn people have blocked them while they continue to search through the rubble of the OBOZO/CLINTON security failure to try and find more diaries.

TeaPartyNation on September 27, 2012 at 4:09 PM

The question is where is the outrage from the media that the Obama administration lied to every Sunday morning talk show? How can the media report any statement as fact from an administration caught lies to the media?

Laurence on September 27, 2012 at 4:10 PM

I am not sure its that clear of a connection. It’s likely they have links to the attackers and they don’t want those links exposed IMO.

sharrukin on September 27, 2012 at 4:07 PM

But, but, but… Didn’t the Libyan government and “peaceful” demonstrators decimate militia? Sure they took into custody all those participating in the attack on the consulate.

I agree we’ll never find out the truth (thanks to Clenis pretty much killing CIA’s ability to do business), but drawing lines through dots it doesn’t take much to reach the conclusion.

riddick on September 27, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Their is actually a different and surprisingly rational explanation for that. Islamic law demands that the individuals responsible for Ambassador Stevens murder be put to death. Islamic tradition also makes it a transgression worthy of death to allow an infidel to bring charges against a Muslim that would result in the Muslim being charged with a death sentence crime.

SWalker on September 27, 2012 at 4:06 PM

First…that’s not rational, it’s just Islam.

Second, they want to talk to them, not charge them with anything as yet.

Third, it would be nice to know the guys in custody were something other than the local bums dragged off the street and told that they were now dangerous Al Qaeda members.

sharrukin on September 27, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Our United States is a total aberration to history.

No other nation has been so powerful, yet so generous with its wealth. Which, to me as an American, makes the hatred for us from the rest of the world all the more putrid to me.

That’s bad enough. But American liberals, especially those who pontificate here all the time with all their kiddie games, are far worse.

I don’t remember the exact quote but, “…Let us forget that you were our countrymen.”

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 4:13 PM

But, but, but… Didn’t the Libyan government and “peaceful” demonstrators decimate militia? Sure they took into custody all those participating in the attack on the consulate.

riddick on September 27, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Well that whole was largely a staged event as we know. That is part of what the Libyans don’t want anyone finding out. It’s just damage control at this point.

sharrukin on September 27, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Maybe the FBI is just too busy hunting down people who insult the prophet of Islam.

The Rogue Tomato on September 27, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Isn’t that NASA’s new mission?

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Let us forget that you were our countrymen.”

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 4:13 PM

One of my personal hero’s Samuel Adams.

“Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say ‘what should be the reward of such sacrifices?’ Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”

SWalker on September 27, 2012 at 4:17 PM

There are two words that liberals will never grasp, understand, or bother to internalize:

“Thank you.”

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Third, it would be nice to know the guys in custody were something other than the local bums dragged off the street and told that they were now dangerous Al Qaeda members.

sharrukin on September 27, 2012 at 4:11 PM

And you just nailed it, right there. That was the original plan. Now, imagine you’re just that, an innocent victim of the Libyan government’s plan. Just how long do you think it would take anyone with a brain to understand Libyan government gave you wrong people? And just where does Libyan gov find 50 people so stupid enough to face certain death in USA courts? Willingly so.

Before we even talk to any stooges they may give us access to, what I want to see are cell phones of those who died at the consulate and phone records of consulate phone system. I can’t imagine that in the 30 minutes or so before terrorists showed up and the attack started that NO ONE at the consulate tried calling Libyan government/local police for help. CANNOT HAPPEN, under any scenario proposed.

And, thus, Libyan government has a lot to explain and giving us access to bums off the street will simply delay the proceedings, but in no way cloud them.

riddick on September 27, 2012 at 4:18 PM

SWalker on September 27, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Thank you!

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 4:19 PM

I sure hope Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has time to go on the Sunday shows this week to explain this to us.

You know that if this Libya fiasco had happened while Condi Rice was Secretary of State, Condi would have been providing appropriate explanations to the American people.

It is time for Hillary Clinton to either provide an explanation or resign.

wren on September 27, 2012 at 4:21 PM

It is time for Hillary Clinton to either provide an explanation or resign.

wren on September 27, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Comedy gold, right there!

(I am not mocking you, simply find this hilarious)

riddick on September 27, 2012 at 4:23 PM

I had always thought that the Costanza position of “It’s not a lie if you believe it.” to mean that if what you said wasn’t true, it wasn’t a lie if you believed it when you said it.

Suddenly I realize that it ACTUALLY means if the administration tells and outright lie, it isn’t a lie if the media believes it. Or even if they want to believe it.

WOW talk about a paradigm shift. I’m dizzy.

Lily on September 27, 2012 at 4:24 PM

…well…this should help JugEars to continue his lead in the MSM polls!

KOOLAID2 on September 27, 2012 at 4:28 PM

HillBarry probably told the FBI to take their time, as they were pretty confident they could get the media to whitewash the whole thing. Darn FOX for getting so nosy!

BettyRuth on September 27, 2012 at 4:34 PM

So is there any truth to the story that was floating around yesterday that we tried to send in rescue helicopters and we were attacked and lost two more soldiers?

sandee on September 27, 2012 at 3:30 PM

It was a Rueters story the day of the attack. There were 37 people there who had to be evacuated, if I remember correctly. I haven’t been around here today. Is there something disputing that original report?

Night Owl on September 27, 2012 at 4:35 PM

HillBarry probably told the FBI to take their time, as they were pretty confident they could get the media to whitewash the whole thing. Darn FOX for getting so nosy!

BettyRuth on September 27, 2012 at 4:34 PM

They gave them a canoe to cross the Atlantic, just one oar. Once they were still able to get to Libya they were promised donkeys and camels to travel, but with the economy there in such great shape it takes weeks to round up enough animals. But soon they will be able to travel at full speed with frequent stops to feed and water the animals. Soon…

riddick on September 27, 2012 at 4:39 PM

verbaluce on September 27, 2012 at 3:31 PM

tommyhawk on September 27, 2012 at 3:31 PM

The new Axelrod talking points are in I see…

SWalker on September 27, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Yeah well, considering bad they are at it. Typical that the liberals have to buy or bribe the stupidest and weakest (free phones anyone?) in order to get ahead. These two clowns are a perfect example of idiocy in action.

It’s ending, you morons. Enjoy it while you can because we are taking over. It may take a few years, but it is happening.

kim roy on September 27, 2012 at 4:40 PM

So is there any truth to the story that was floating around yesterday that we tried to send in rescue helicopters and we were attacked and lost two more soldiers?

sandee on September 27, 2012 at 3:30 PM

It was a Rueters story the day of the attack. There were 37 people there who had to be evacuated, if I remember correctly. I haven’t been around here today. Is there something disputing that original report?

Night Owl on September 27, 2012 at 4:35 PM

And in no way our friends, the Libyan government, are responsible for any of this. They need more money to print all those placards for the next “peaceful” demonstration to chase militia out.

riddick on September 27, 2012 at 4:41 PM

The question is, does anyone besides conservatives and the victims’ loved ones even care? This is a full blown scandal a month before election day, and I feel like nobody besides those I mentioned even give a crap. I hope I am wrong.

Jack_Burton on September 27, 2012 at 4:45 PM

And in no way our friends, the Libyan government, are responsible for any of this. They need more money to print all those placards for the next “peaceful” demonstration to chase militia out.

riddick on September 27, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Yeah, there was a “miscommunication” about how many people there were to evacuate, and when our military got there, they didn’t have enough transport to get them all out, and they ended up in another battle in which 2 more of ours were killed, supposedly. It’s almost as if this part of the story is just a dream I had or something.

Night Owl on September 27, 2012 at 4:45 PM

I’ll leave you with this, from today’s Journal editorial: “Imagine the uproar if, barely a month before Election Day, the Bush Administration had responded to a terrorist strike—on Sept. 11 no less—in this fashion.”

Impeachment Hearings would have already begun.

I usually post this Oldie about this time of year. It made the rounds after the attacks Bill Clinton and his fellow Democrats left Bush to Inherit:

PRESIDENT-ELECT John F. Kerry’s rise to the nation’s highest office came as little surprise following almost four years of remonstrations against President George W. Bush for his bizarre attack on the defenseless people of Afghanistan.

Kerry, a decorated Vietnam veteran, was the right man for a nation outraged by the Bush administration’s pre-emptive war, which, it now seems clear, was based on highly speculative intelligence that Saudi Arabian- born terrorist Osama bin Laden was planning an attack on the United States.

Absent absolute proof of such an imminent attack, Bush’s Sept. 10 bombing of Afghanistan earned him international condemnation and, in all likelihood, an indictment in coming weeks. U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, appearing last night on “Larry King Live,’ said the United Nations’ International Criminal Tribunal likely would bring charges of genocide against Bush.

Bush also faces federal charges at home for his baseless arrest of 19 foreign nationals, many of them native Saudis, whose “crime’ was attending American flight schools. The Council on American-Islamic Relations has joined the American Civil Liberties Union in a joint suit against both Bush and former Attorney General John Ashcroft, charging racial profiling, unlawful arrest and illegal search and seizure.

Kerry’s campaign mantra “You go to war because you have to, not because you want to’ clearly resonated with Americans as they tried to make sense of Bush’s Sept. 10 attack on Afghanistan. Neither the president, nor national security adviser Condoleezza Rice convincingly defended their actions during the recent “9/10 Commission’ hearings, which Congress ordered in response to public outcry.

The commission’s purpose was to try to determine what compelled the president to launch a war against Afghanistan. What kind of intelligence suggested that such an act was justified?

The main target of the attack was bin Laden, friend to Afghanistan’s brutal Taliban regime, as well as al-Qaida training camps in that war-ravaged nation. Al-Qaida, an international terrorist network, has been blamed for numerous attacks on U.S. interests, including the USS Cole bombing, which killed 17 sailors.
Even though Bush’s military campaign was successful in ending the oppressive Taliban regime, bin Laden apparently escaped and al-Qaida continues to flourish.

Some intelligence sources speculate that bin Laden’s operatives may be trying to secure weapons of mass destruction from Iraq’s Saddam Hussein.

Even though Saddam continues to send money to the families of Palestinian terrorists and is believed to have programs for developing WMD, Kerry says he is committed to containing Saddam through continued sanctions and the U.N. oil-for-food program.

In any case, experts say that intelligence about Saddam’s WMD program is just as speculative as was the intelligence that prompted Bush to attack Afghanistan. The man credited with sounding the alarm on bin Laden and al-Qaida was Richard Clarke, a counterterrorism expert who has served four presidents, including Ronald Reagan, George H. Bush and William Jefferson Clinton.

In a Jan. 25 memo to Rice, for instance, Clarke urged immediate attention to several items of national security interest: the Northern Alliance, covert aid, a significant new ’02 budget authority to help fight al-Qaida and a response to the USS Cole.

At Rice’s and Clarke’s urging, Bush called a meeting of principals and, after “connecting the dots,’ decided to wage war against Afghanistan.

What did the dots say? Not much, in retrospect. Apparently, the president decided to bomb a benign country on the basis of “chatter’
that hinted at “something big.’

With no other details on the “big,’ and weaving together random bits of information from a variety of questionable sources, Bush and company decided that 19 fundamentalist Muslim fanatics would fly airplanes into the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon on 9/11.

Under questioning by the “9/10 Commission,’ Clarke denied that his memo was anything more than a historical overview with a “set of ideas and a paper, mostly.’ The bipartisan commission concluded, therefore, that Bush’s “dot-connecting’ had destroyed American credibility and subjected the United States to increasing hostility in the Arab-Muslim world.

Last week, Saddam Hussein and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat joined French and German leaders in condemning Bush and urging American voters to cast their ballots for regime change in America. Kerry was the clear response to that call.

In a flourish of irony and the spirit of bon vivant for which the new president is widely known, Kerry gave his acceptance speech from Windows on the World, the elegant restaurant atop the World Trade Center’s Tower One.

Del Dolemonte on September 27, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Also, if we DID go in there to get people out that night, why didn’t they send enough people in at that time to secure the place?

Night Owl on September 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM

This is what a fiasco looks like.

Give the hyperbole a rest, maybe?

verbaloon on September 27, 2012 at 3:31 PM

No, Kid, that “fiasco” was signed off on by the United States Congress. Please tell us again how much better things would be with Saddam still in charge.

F-

Del Dolemonte on September 27, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Allahpundit, what about the rescue mission that was launched to “rescue” American personnel out of the consulate? Apparently 1-2 Marines were killed in the rescue and 10x were WIA. Not only that, but they were attacked en route—details are sketchy, SWalker has posted some stuff about it and there was a Reuters story about it. More needs to get out about what happened with that as well.

ted c on September 27, 2012 at 4:49 PM

I’ll give you a far more plausible explanation, Allah.

The State Department will make NO statement until after the FBI investigation is complete.

There will be NO FBI investigation.

There will be NO statement on WHO to blame from State.

How convenient.

GarandFan on September 27, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Okay, reasonable enough but why the cover up? Why the parade of Susan Rice telling every Sunday morning talk show that this was just a protest by the religion of peace that got out of control when those wild and crazy guys affiliated with Al Qaeda just happened to show up with their RPGs?

In other words, I agree with you about the stall tactic that is going on now but why the cover up at all. It would be very easy to blame this all on some mid-level drone at State and move on.

And, BTW, lets also talk about the timing and tone of the White House response on this!

Happy Nomad on September 27, 2012 at 4:55 PM

what about the rescue mission that was launched to “rescue” American personnel out of the consulate? Apparently 1-2 Marines were killed in the rescue and 10x were WIA. Not only that, but they were attacked en route—details are sketchy, SWalker has posted some stuff about it and there was a Reuters story about it. More needs to get out about what happened with that as well.

ted c on September 27, 2012 at 4:49 PM

We know as much about that as we do the employer of those SEALs, what Ambassador Stevens was doing there, or how exactly those victims died. Which is to say the White House is hiding something forty days out of an election.

Happy Nomad on September 27, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Yeah, there was a “miscommunication” about how many people there were to evacuate, and when our military got there, they didn’t have enough transport to get them all out, and they ended up in another battle in which 2 more of ours were killed, supposedly. It’s almost as if this part of the story is just a dream I had or something.

Night Owl on September 27, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Yep, I’ve been asking every news outlet that I can about this story. Was it real or a complete fabrication. It was picked by many news outlets at the time, but I have seen nothing since. It is very strange for a fabrication to have that much detail so soon after the attack.

d1carter on September 27, 2012 at 5:02 PM

protecting Hillary for a 2016 run perhaps?

maineconservative on September 27, 2012 at 5:03 PM

They sure overcame. MLK dies again in his grave.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Ugh.
The dramatic little couplets are getting desperate.
Are working up bits for some right/con poetry slam or something?

verbaluce on September 27, 2012 at 5:10 PM

The reason Obama wants to speak to the ladies on The View, rather than world leaders, Ms Behar, is because you’re too stupid to know when he’s dissembling.

Basilsbest on September 27, 2012 at 5:14 PM

This isn’t a fiasco?
Because Obama is still going to tout his foreign policy chops during the campaign?
Right verbaluce?

gwelf on September 27, 2012 at 5:15 PM

I’m sure we’ll have a statement from State in mere moments as to the delay. Did the FBI get to bring their weapons or did they disarm at the border? Wouldn’t want to offend our new BFFs in Libya. Things must be in greater disarray in that country than we know.

Kissmygrits on September 27, 2012 at 5:21 PM

gwelf on September 27, 2012 at 5:15 PM

No, it’s not.
A fiasco was those guys getting killed.
And I truly wish for an apolitical investigation.
And I do trust the professionals for that…not the Fox News driven peanut gallery.
Embassies have been attacked before and will be attacked again.
If State needs defenses in place at various embassies, if diplomatic security needs to be revised and revamped, if there are flaws in intelligence gathering that need to be corrected…indeed. Full speed ahead on that.
But none of that is driving the spin here. This is just the latest ‘outrage’ about ‘Obama the liar’ or whatever. What is it you guys wanna prove happened here…what’s the grand scary ‘this time it’s really for real’ conspiracy?
What will Jim Demint bring to all this beyond more rank partisan hackery?
Issa’s Fast and Furious EXPOSE!! just ended with a whimper.
To the great disappoint of many here, proper blame went to the right folks in the end there – and that will happen here too.

verbaluce on September 27, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Yep, I’ve been asking every news outlet that I can about this story. Was it real or a complete fabrication. It was picked by many news outlets at the time, but I have seen nothing since. It is very strange for a fabrication to have that much detail so soon after the attack.

d1carter on September 27, 2012 at 5:02 PM

So now it’s me, you, ted c, and swalker who want to know. Maybe we should start a petition?

Night Owl on September 27, 2012 at 5:30 PM

What is it you guys wanna prove happened here…what’s the grand scary ‘this time it’s really for real’ conspiracy?
What will Jim Demint bring to all this beyond more rank partisan hackery?
Issa’s Fast and Furious EXPOSE!! just ended with a whimper.
To the great disappoint of many here, proper blame went to the right folks in the end there – and that will happen here too.

verbaluce on September 27, 2012 at 5:29 PM

You are just plain stupid. I want a State Department who doesn’t just have the freakin option of not answering questions. They work for us. They aren’t doing their job, they are lying about it and the media and this administration are covering it up because it shows Obama to be the inept, lazy liar that he is.

You think just because DOJ put out their IG Report, the whole investigation is over? You really don’t know how things work, which makes you unqualified to comment on them.

Night Owl on September 27, 2012 at 5:36 PM

d1carter
ted c
Night Owl
others interested in the Reuters evacuation report

The Reuters story, was filed Wednesday, September 12, from Benghazi (!!), Libya, by a Reuters Middle East stringer, Hadeel Al Shalchi (female, Canadian, based in Tripoli, Libya). Neither Reuters nor Shalchi have followed up on this story at all, that I can find. Shalchi, however, is a reasonably experienced journalist.

From the first-hand account of the rescue– the details of the Marine’s death and another’s injury, the exact number of evacuees, the composition of the rescue team and evacuation convoy– the story pretty clearly is based on the account of Captain Fathi al-Obeidi, who headed up a special operations unit known as the Libyan Shield Brigade, and who was ordered by Libyan authorities to meet up with the 8-man Marine squad at Benghazi airport, and take them to the back-up location to which 37 U.S./Libyan diplomatic personnel had fled after the consulate had come under attack. The rescue mission was a success, with loss of a Marine and two consulate personnel during the rescue:

Eventually dozens more vehicles were despatched from pro-government militia brigades and, with the sun rising, the convoy headed back to the airport where an aircraft flew a first group of U.S. personnel out to the Libyan capital.

Shalchi’s– or, say, Captain al-Obeidi’s– story is corroborated (n professional journalistic fashion) by a secondary source, Libyan Deputy Interior Minister Wanis al-Sharif:

Speaking of the rescue mission, he said: “A team of commandos arrived by air and went to a farm which we thought was a secret location. Once they got there, they came under heavy fire from heavy machineguns, rocket-propelled grenades and automatic rifles, which resulted in the death of two others.”

He estimated that a dozen or more Americans were hurt.

If, as Anderson Cooper has reported, the U.S. effectively is shut out of Benghazi and a high al-Qaeda official is living there, that’s probably the last we’ll hear of Captain al-Obeidi unless he and the Libyan Shield Brigade high-tailed it out of Benghazi after seeing off the Americans. U.S. diplomatic personnel obviously have been sequestered by the State Department, and likely the Marines (f there were Marines) shunted off to some base and told to shut up. We will not the get the follow up to this story until after the election.

Might be worth a tweet to Ms. Shalchi, however, to see if she knows any more.

de rigueur on September 27, 2012 at 6:08 PM

A real president would announce (while our helicopters were landing at the site) that our men are going into the Embassy, and that anyone obstructing the path or interfering with them in any way would be taken out.

Of course, our embassy wouldn’t have been guarded by soldiers with toy guns and no access to bullets in the first place…IF we had a real president.

Showing weakness in the Mideast leads to defeat and encourages more violence. The Obozo/Clinton crew had no clue on this point, and obviously ignored foreign service professionals’ advice in Afghanistan, Egypt…and now in Libya. This incompetent crew thought they could just throw a “democracy grenade” in the door and run away.

The danger of showing weakness is precisely why the US tolerated dictators in the area for so long: much of the area cannot be governed by a democracy because the culture is not ready for and will not permit that form of government. Education and respect for the principle of law and basic human rights for ALL (regardless of religion, race, origin, etc.) are prerequisites for democracy.

Much work was done in Iraq to pave the way for democracy. We’ll see in a few decades whether we stayed long enough and did the right kind of preparation.

landlines on September 27, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Obama says that no one in his administration can answer any questions about the attack because they are investigating it.

Now it turns out there actually ISN’T an investigation going on. And the administration refuses to say why that is because… “LOOK, A SQUIRRELL!”

logis on September 27, 2012 at 6:15 PM

Might be worth a tweet to Ms. Shalchi, however, to see if she knows any more.

de rigueur on September 27, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Interest in the Reuters article reporter, Hadeel Al Shalchi, certainly shot up after she filed that report.

de rigueur on September 27, 2012 at 6:52 PM

It was picked by many news outlets at the time, but I have seen nothing since. It is very strange for a fabrication to have that much detail so soon after the attack.

d1carter on September 27, 2012 at 5:02 PM

The Reuters story was not a fabrication. Check out the reporter, Hadeel Al Shalchi. Female, Canadian, western-educated Muslim, been covering Egypt since the “Arab Spring” and Syria since the CW began.

She’s the real deal. And unable to report further because a) Benghazi itself is now under the sole proprietorship of al-Qaeda and her original sources have beaten it out of there if they haven’t been killed already; and b) she’s in no position to report on what happened after the rescue planes left Benghazi airport. The Marines are mum and the State Department has the 37 evacuees in hand. The blockade on information will not be lifted until after the election, if then.

See above 6:08PM, 6:52PM

de rigueur on September 27, 2012 at 7:00 PM

I guess we’ll need to wait till the books come out about the absolute screw up on the security that cost the lives of four Americans because of political BS. If this had happened in any other Administration the media would be screaming for blood. The covering of the facts and the lies are just too numerous to ignore and this President thinks he has a shot at four more years? Hillary is way over her head and intoxicated with the idea of being in the White House again. Obama shut her up with the Secretary of State slot and pardon me for not noticing anything of value this women accomplished.

mixplix on September 27, 2012 at 7:02 PM

This was a coordinated series of attacks based on the false premise of (yet another) “offence” to Islam. Readers & contributors really need to see Maj. Stephen Coughlin’s series of presentations. The last being: “Stephen Coughlin, Part 5: The Role of the OIC in Enforcing Islamic Law”

The Obama administration is/was complicit in the riots and the activity of the Muslim Brotherhood. Yes, they aided and abetted. That is why they are lying and stonewalling. They bear responsibility for the death of the sacrificial lambs Ambassador and others.

To not see the bigger picture here – the eventual loss of our freedom’s and the provocation to violence of the world’s Muslim population against Israel – is to miss everything.

Liam1304 on September 27, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Barack Pussyfoot Obama.

Obfuscator In Chief

profitsbeard on September 27, 2012 at 7:22 PM

Instead of the FBI (which shouldn’t operate overseas anyway) send in some special ops “reporters” to sweep the scene, secure the scatterings, and report the results to someone competent in this Administration.

If they can find one.

If the ambassadors “journal” can be found by a journalist (sic) then why not simply do what works.

Freelance CIA bloggers- or whatever.

profitsbeard on September 27, 2012 at 7:51 PM

de rigueur on September 27, 2012 at 7:00 PM

I have tweeted her to see if she will respond…thanks.

d1carter on September 27, 2012 at 8:13 PM

d1carter on September 27, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Cool. Would be interesting to find out what’s happened to Captain al-Oeidi, although that’s the kind of query she’d likely expect from al-Qaeda, too.

de rigueur on September 27, 2012 at 9:01 PM

How about we keep the FBI here at home, and send the TSA (ALL of it) over to Libya??

landlines on September 27, 2012 at 11:32 PM

de rigueur on September 27, 2012 at 6:08 PM

I’m glad I checked back here. Thanks. I think this deserves it’s own story, now.

Night Owl on September 28, 2012 at 1:10 AM

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