Feds arrest Mohammed filmmaker on probation violation

posted at 7:12 pm on September 27, 2012 by Allahpundit

No word yet on what the violation was, but I assume it must be far more serious than using an alias or a computer. Given the insanity of the past two weeks, replete with the White House nudging Google to pull the video off of YouTube and the State Department running ads on Pakistani TV to apologize for a movie they had nothing to do with, I can’t quite believe the DOJ would risk the perception that they’re punishing this guy for a thoughtcrime unless something serious was involved. There has to be a real crime underlying this. Right?

The California man behind a crudely produced anti-Islamic video that has inflamed parts of the Middle East was arrested Thursday for violating terms of his probation, authorities said.

[The filmmaker] has been on probation for a 2010 federal check fraud conviction that brought a 21-month prison sentence. Under terms of his probation, he was not to use computers or the Internet for five years without approval from his probation officer…

A U.S. District Court hearing was scheduled for [him] on Thursday afternoon. It was closed to media and the public.

Meanwhile, new from Fox News:

Two weeks after the killing of a U.S. ambassador in Libya — an attack the Obama administration blamed in part on an online video mocking the prophet Muhammad — a majority of likely voters thinks the first thing a president should do in such situations is stand up for free speech, and not criticize how Americans exercise their First Amendment rights.

A Fox News poll released Thursday finds 61 percent of voters think the president of the United States should “stand up for freedom of speech, even if it’s offensive,” while 22 percent say the president should “condemn offensive speech if it might provoke Islamic violence.”

Those 22 percent know something important that the 61 percent don’t, namely, that the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. And if we occasionally have to haul a guy in on a probation violation to ensure that the future doesn’t belong to him, hey. Exit quotation from our new kinda sorta ally in Egypt: “Egypt respects freedom of expression … [but] not a freedom of expression that targets a specific religion or a specific culture.”

Update: In order to prove that it’s evenhanded about blasphemy, Egypt’s gone ahead and arrested a Muslim cleric for burning a copy of the Bible. Note to The One: If you want to show the Middle East that American free-speech principles are not, in fact, an anti-Muslim plot and apply even to people who insult the faith of most Americans, this is a fine opportunity. Speak up in this guy’s favor.

Update: According to TMZ, the guy’s probation report is sealed. Question for criminal defense attorneys: Is there any way to force it to be unsealed, or is that at the discretion of one or both of the parties? There’s a public interest at this point, I think, in knowing why they’re sending him back to prison. Did he commit a serious crime that we don’t know about, or are they using a technicality to punish him for blasphemy?


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So he’s dismissive of conservatives yet I noticed the left-wing anti-war movement got awful quiet after Bush left office.
 
amerpundit on May 31, 2012 at 6:34 PM

 
Maybe it’s due to the fact that we haven’t started any trillion dollar high casualty wars and in fact are getting out of two which Republicans started.
 
lester on May 31, 2012 at 7:05 PM

 
New four-months-later hotness:
 

They will get apologies, in the form of bullets directly inserted into their brains. Some of them might receive the fireworks variety. Obama’s done it before. If you doubt ask a lot of other dead terrorists.
 
lester on September 27, 2012 at 8:39 PM

rogerb on September 27, 2012 at 10:00 PM

The guy can’t lie? Where is that written? So if he tells his date that he is “endowed” and it’s determined he isn’t he can be
arrested?

It’s okay. When The Free Speech Police and The Religion of Peace come for us, we will be sure to tell them you were on their side.

kim roy on September 27, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Just remember, to lie about having received the Medal of Honor is protected under the law though.

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 10:01 PM

wildcat’, you’re obviously an Islamaphobe of the most extreme variety, and need therapy at one of our soon-to-be-built Reeducation Centers.

listens2glenn
on September 27, 2012 at 8:56 PM

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My very existence is “blaspheming” islam. I am rather proud of that.

Notice how I never capitalize islam, mohammed or muslim? Notice that I refuse to call the ancient capital of the Eastern Roman Empire that was founded by and named after the first Christian Emperor by any name but Constantinople?

I despise islam. I think due to it’s seditious and treasonous nature a FAR better case can be made of making it illegal and illegitimate with respect to the first amendment than blaspheming it can!

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 9:03 PM

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You sound as bad as that commenter from page one.

He’s a real extremist as well, and will undoubtedly be joining you in one of those “Reeducation Centers”.
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Allah is a FALSE GOD.

Mohammed was a FALSE PROPHET.

The children of Israel TRUMP the children of Ishmael and Esau.
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Jesus Is Lord

XXXXXXXXXXX on September 27, 2012 at 7:31 PM (name redacted to protect the guilty)

listens2glenn on September 27, 2012 at 10:02 PM

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Not necessary – it’s only a matter of time (short, hopefully) til he hits critical mass…

affenhauer on September 27, 2012 at 10:02 PM

rogerb on September 27, 2012 at 10:00 PM

I said it before. No one makes them eat their words like you do.

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 10:02 PM

Actually, I assume the probation violation was precisely using an alias or the computer. The feds were looking for any conceivable pretext for arresting the guy.

J.E. Dyer on September 27, 2012 at 8:56 PM

I assume you are right but why should using a stage name to help you avoid your overly excitable “fans” be a crime? Are nom de plumes illegal for probationers too?

KW64 on September 27, 2012 at 10:04 PM

a few show trials, some pogroms, and some mass starvation should fundamentally transform america info Obamastan

keep voting democrat!!!!!!¡

tom daschle concerned on September 27, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Where the hell was this liberal resolve in the war on terror when President Bush was in charge and my unit was getting shot at and mortars dropped on?

Tell me why I shouldn’t hate liberals. You f@cking hypocrites.

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 9:59 PM

That was different, hawk. Back then, you guys were the evil Christian soldiers of your BushCheneyHalliburton NeoConJewZionist puppet masters bent on killing women and children for oil, lithium, God and country. Now you guys are rainbow shooting peace crusaders bringing American liberalism, multicultural tolerance and love to people all across this big wide world, courtesy of Barack the Benevolent Godking and his ‘Big Stick.’

Aren’t double standards just the best?

Good Solid B-Plus on September 27, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Aren’t double standards just the best?

Good Solid B-Plus on September 27, 2012 at 10:06 PM

I guess.

I’m retired but my unit is just back from OEF. We lost three medics out of the 82nd CAB and two crews of pilots, crewmembers and passengers from the 25th AVN in RC South. A Chinnok load of SEALs and more KIA from IEDs than I can remember before. And it’s mostly Obama’s rules of engagement.

Liberals wipe blood on their faces over OBL but they don’t even know about our casualties anymore. There’s no milestones to ruin Bush with. It’s not worthy to keep track of now.

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 10:12 PM

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Just a quick moment to again say ‘thank you’ for your service.

Midas on September 27, 2012 at 10:14 PM

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Sorry to hear that, hawk.

Count me as among the many here who root for our military unconditionally, whether it’s Team D or Team R at the helm. You guys are heroes, not just cudgels to be used for cheap partisan bluster.

Good Solid B-Plus on September 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Well, Obama said he didn’t have a future.

OxyCon on September 27, 2012 at 10:27 PM

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 9:59 PM

Just a quick moment to again say ‘thank you’ for your service.

Midas on September 27, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Thanks, but I’m retired going on my second year now. Eternal thanks to these guys that never get to retire.

FORT BRAGG, N.C. — Two pilots from the 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade, 82nd Airborne Division, died Sept. 5 when their OH-58D Kiowa Warrior went down in Logar province, Afghanistan.

U.S. Army Chief Warrant Officers 2 Jose Montenegro Jr. and Thalia Ramirez were nearing the end of a yearlong deployment in support of Operation Enduring Freedom.

Sgt. Eric Williams, just weeks until redeployment.

Sgt Brian Cowdrey, KIA rescuing soldiers in combat.

And we lost one I didn’t know very well before those two.

That was just the 82ND CAB.

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Midas on September 27, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Good Solid B-Plus on September 27, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Lost a long comment there. I’ll break it down. I’m actually retired working on two years now. Remember these guys who won’t get the chance to retire.

SSG Brian Cowdrey, KIA rescuing troops in combat.

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 10:31 PM

I assume you are right but why should using a stage name to help you avoid your overly excitable “fans” be a crime? Are nom de plumes illegal for probationers too?

KW64 on September 27, 2012 at 10:04 PM

As I understand it, the terms of probation for the guy — who was convicted on financial fraud counts involving the use of the internet and aliases — prohibited his connecting to the net without his probation officer’s approval, or using an alias.

Homing in on these would just be a pretext for picking the guy up. If there were any evidence that he had committed fraud again, while on probation, the feds would simply have said so. But they haven’t. This is about the video, and the probation reguirements are a convenient pretext.

J.E. Dyer on September 27, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Question to President Obama: Suppose I were to say that Muhammad never received any messages from God or any angel, and made up the Quran himself with no divine inspiration.

Does that count as slandering Muhammad? Does that mean that the future doesn’t belong to people like me?

J.S.K. on September 27, 2012 at 10:34 PM

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 10:33 PM

My God bless and honor their memory and may He hold their families and friends in the hollow of His hand.

kingsjester on September 27, 2012 at 10:35 PM

So Lester, next time you’re beating your chest about Obama’s gutsy calls, remember who pays the price to make it happen.

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Homing in on these would just be a pretext for picking the guy up. If there were any evidence that he had committed fraud again, while on probation, the feds would simply have said so. But they haven’t. This is about the video, and the probation reguirements are a convenient pretext.

J.E. Dyer on September 27, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Yep.

No question. The only reason why this guy was arrested is that our President, who’s middle name is HUSSEIN, who’s fathers were BOTH muslim, who spent much time IN muslim countries when he was young, is determined to make blaspheming the “prophet” of islam a crime.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 10:36 PM

This is outrageous and no coincidence that the arrest took place during the general assembly

sadsushi on September 27, 2012 at 10:38 PM

I don’t get it. Why is there no outrage?

Are we really just that apathetic about our freedoms?

blue13326 on September 27, 2012 at 10:40 PM

New Propaganda Posters!!!

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2012/09/propaganda-revisited-we-wuz-robbed-way_27.html

What WWII posters would look like today!

Resist We Much on September 27, 2012 at 10:43 PM

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 9:06 PM

That appears to be thin “evidence.” Need a citation on it, and I am quite sure the original offense was something that made the guy worth keeping an eye on (and justified the apparent monitoring of his home computer), like child porn.

You are simply wrong about probation. Very few sanctions kick in automatically, because there is almost nothing, other than physical movement or use of a computer or car, that the authorities can reliably track and be aware of. Most probation violations, the authorities don’t even know about. Even for known violations, the cost of putting them back behind bars is often too high, given the system overload.

If Bessely’s computer was being monitored, he should have been arrested long before this. He was obviously using the computer much earlier than 2 weeks ago. I doubt his computer was being monitored, or that any monitoring was effective. It’s ridiculously easy to get on the internet from access points other than the computers/devices you are known to own.

Bessely was put in the crosshairs because of the video, and the feds are using what they can to detain him because of it. The only thing that could justify this particular approach is a recurrence of financial fraud by Bessely. And if that’s what happened, the feds would tell the public that.

J.E. Dyer on September 27, 2012 at 10:48 PM

This is scary.

McDuck on September 27, 2012 at 10:51 PM

I don’t get it. Why is there no outrage?

Are we really just that apathetic about our freedoms?

blue13326 on September 27, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Meaning zero personal insult to you -

“It’s the economy, stupid!”

If financial Armageddon hits, one crook posting one inflammatory video is going to be about a mile down on the list of our priorities.

MelonCollie on September 27, 2012 at 11:05 PM

If Bessely’s computer was being monitored, he should have been arrested long before this. He was obviously using the computer much earlier than 2 weeks ago. I doubt his computer was being monitored, or that any monitoring was effective. It’s ridiculously easy to get on the internet from access points other than the computers/devices you are known to own.

Bessely was put in the crosshairs because of the video, and the feds are using what they can to detain him because of it. The only thing that could justify this particular approach is a recurrence of financial fraud by Bessely. And if that’s what happened, the feds would tell the public that.

J.E. Dyer on September 27, 2012 at 10:48 PM

As someone who is a 20 year IT veteran, I can tell you that a determined person who has computer skills can obtain and use one without being identified, though it gets harder all the time.

$50 can get you a functional (but old) PC at any flea market that can connect to the internet. Add to this that you could use an iPhone to record, edit and UPLOAD a video like that and you complicate the issue.

Plus, small notebooks or “netbooks” sell for $300 new and are both portable, battery powered, and wireless. Wifi hotspots are EVERYWHERE these days. If you wander about and move from hotspot to hotspot there pretty much is no way other than account hacking to identify internet traffic AS you.

It would take being tracked physically by government agents to find out you were using any of that if you used half a brain.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Forgot to add: What I see in the future is efforts by the government to require “ID” of some sort to access the internet.

IE: you can’t take any old computer obtained anonymously with cash that is equipped with an 802.11x NIC that can connect to a standard wifi network and access the internet.

The Bible calls THAT “the mark of the beast”.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 11:09 PM

So Lester, next time you’re beating your chest about Obama’s gutsy calls, remember who pays the price to make it happen.

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Strange how he just disappeared all of a sudden.

Night Owl on September 27, 2012 at 11:14 PM

So Lester, next time you’re beating your chest about Obama’s gutsy calls, remember who pays the price to make it happen.

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Strange how he just disappeared all of a sudden.

Night Owl on September 27, 2012 at 11:14 PM

lester lester the child molester. That is (or is not) as real as the “prophet” mohammed.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 11:15 PM

cpaulus, get yourself together. The only poll that counts is on Nov. 6.

If the land votes for this outhouse again, the land deserves full destruction. Fool me once…you know how it goes.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2012 at 7:23 PM

So you still think that there are going to be elections this year. That’s sweet…

bofh on September 27, 2012 at 11:18 PM

lester lester the child molester. That is (or is not) as real as the “prophet” mohammed.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 11:15 PM

I don’t know why it still boggles my mind how hypocritical leftists are. Bush was “killing women and children in the dead of night” and now Obama is killing innocent people with drone attacks, and lefties are A OKAY with that. What a bunch of pigs.

Night Owl on September 27, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Maybe it’s due to the fact that we haven’t started any trillion dollar high casualty wars and in fact are getting out of two which Republicans started.

lester on May 31, 2012 at 7:05 PM

So, are you actually saying that we, the U.S. started the war in Afghanistan? You are forgetting a pretty significant act of war that occurred on 9/11//2001, an act perpetrated by a group operating out of… Afghanistan.

Also, your history seems to be a tad rusty. The battle for Iwo Jima ALONE cost more lives than the war in Afghanistan has.

In regards to Afghanistan:

On September 14, 2001 bill House Joint Resolution 64 passed in the House. The totals in the House of Representatives were: 420 Ayes, 1 Nay and 10 Not Voting.

In regards to Iraq:

The House passed the war powers resolution 296-133 after three days of debate.

The Democratic-led Senate passed the war powers resolution, 77-23.

So, would you care to recant your statement about Democrats not starting any wars?

ShadowsPawn on September 27, 2012 at 11:23 PM

So the cork socking DOJ flexes and CDOC drops to their knees. This is the Muslim pResident bowing before the prophet of death. I wish the worst outcome polssible in the balance of his life and I pay my respects to his daughters in advance. What a crock of delta smelt from a barrel of monkies.

Rio Linda Refugee on September 27, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Point 1. If the guy says the movie was posted by someone else and he was not near a computer when that happened, does the government jokers even have a case? Does the government have to prove he was the one who posted it, time, date and location with no other people present?

Point 2. I am pretty sure that same way we were lied to about “peace loving” demonstrators in Libya attacking militia and dispersing them ,only to find out that Benghazi is under full control of that same “dispersed” militia, I am also VERY SURE that the said “cleric” burning a Bible is also a pigment of Arab’s imagination. Doesn’t exist and is as made up as the manufactured story in Benghazi (or was it a manufactured story concocted in our White House?).

riddick on September 27, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Sooooo…can we arrest anti-Christian and anti-Jewish film makers now???

…or is Federal “insult prohibition” and “feelings protection” reserved for only certain government-favored religions??

landlines on September 27, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Probation violations of internet use or aliases can be serious because a judge has a lot of discretion on revocation of probation, etc. However, because of Nakoula’s prior fraud conviction, it is more likely there is fraud related activity here. Don’t forget, the actors in this goofy film claim that the clip on YouTube was dubbed over with dialogue not in their scripts. That may indicate potential fraud issues with their employment. Nakoula also has shady ties overseas, and it is unclear where he obtained funding for this film or has connections to unsavory contacts. That is plenty reason to seal the case.

ace tomato on September 27, 2012 at 11:47 PM

MelonCollie: I think there’s probably something to what you’re saying, and if you want to get really scared look at what FDR was able to do when he got re-elected with the 2nd New Deal and the packing of SCOTUS during the depression.

blue13326 on September 28, 2012 at 12:03 AM

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Strange how he just disappeared all of a sudden.

Night Owl on September 27, 2012 at 11:14 PM

He’s a coward.

hawkdriver on September 28, 2012 at 12:09 AM

The real criminal here is the Obama Regime.

Sherman1864 on September 28, 2012 at 12:36 AM

ShadowsPawn on September 27, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Don’t confuse the Les Nessman Unit with Facts. It’s not programmed to respond in that area.

Want to blow a Lib out of the water? Cite the Department of Defense statistics showing that during the 8 years while Democrat pResident Bill Clinton was doing cigars in the Oral Orifice, more US military service members died in non-combat accidents than have been killed in combat + in accidents in Afghanistan and Iraq combined in the 11 years since the attacks Clinton left his successor.

By the way, did you know that the Democrat Party still considers him to be a Rock Star for doing that?

Del Dolemonte on September 28, 2012 at 12:45 AM

This is an old Gestapo trick. CYA by falsely accusing a totally innocent individual (or group). Even when overwhelming evidence suggests that it is the accuser not the accused that is the guilty party,ARREST THE ACCUSED ANYWAY. To a dull-normal general public, the accused MUST be guilty or why would the government arrest him in the first place? This image of displaced guilt is further reinforced when the accused is dragged out in chains and dressed in ridiculously over-sized and ugly prison garb.

MaiDee on September 28, 2012 at 12:51 AM

l e s – t e r . . . . . . . . . . . (echo chamber reverbeberations)
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I guess y’all bullied him off. A moment of silence for lester . . . . . half a second will do . . . . . OKAY, as you were.

listens2glenn on September 28, 2012 at 12:54 AM

In all the theories about the government just looking for an excuse to arrest the guy, do none of you stop to think that this guy, who goes to great lengths to conceal himself and is in fear for his life may have WANTED to be in custody? He has, after all, spoken with the FBI on his own recognizance and expressed fear for his life.

Never stop to think its a face saving way to put him in a protective custody where his life isn’t in danger and the US government doesn’t have to be seen as harboring him and helping him out?

I mean, since we’re all just speculating here and nothing more… I just seriously doubt that the real reasons behind it all that cut and dried and neatly shaped into the it wasn’t us doing it so it must be bad, terribly terribly, reeducation camps bad.

Boomer_Sooner on September 28, 2012 at 1:07 AM

FU DOJ…I may not like it, but I would go to war with you over even the Egyptian Imam’s burning of a Bible (if he lived here). Yeah it sux when @ssholes are @ssholes in print, etc., but that’s an American tradition – try to take it away at your own peril.

specialkayel on September 28, 2012 at 1:26 AM

Mohammed is a homo who likes to take it up the rear.

The Notorious G.O.P on September 28, 2012 at 1:32 AM

“There has to be a real crime underlying this. Right?”

No.

“In all the theories about the government just looking for an excuse to arrest the guy, do none of you stop to think that this guy, who goes to great lengths to conceal himself and is in fear for his life may have WANTED to be in custody? He has, after all, spoken with the FBI on his own recognizance and expressed fear for his life.

Never stop to think its a face saving way to put him in a protective custody where his life isn’t in danger and the US government doesn’t have to be seen as harboring him and helping him out?

I mean, since we’re all just speculating here and nothing more… I just seriously doubt that the real reasons behind it all that cut and dried and neatly shaped into the it wasn’t us doing it so it must be bad, terribly terribly, reeducation camps bad.”

Boomer_Sooner on September 28, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Who the hell do you think outed this guy?
In fact, they are probably pissed he hasn’t been offed in the 2 weeks they have left him hanging to dry.
Besides, it wasn’t the video!

sablegsd on September 28, 2012 at 1:47 AM

I hope it’s for his protection because if he is jailed and killed by some inmate or jihadist, or commits “suicide” then … I hope it’s for his protection.

ALso Lester,
it doesn’t matter if the film maker is a low life. That’s not the point. It’s not about him. You are being stupid on purpose.

BoxHead1 on September 28, 2012 at 3:13 AM

Hey guys, check out Patterico’s blog, “http://patterico.com/”. The guy used the internet and aliases for the crime for which he is on probation. Terms of probation prohibited use of aliases or the internet. Small time use of the internet would probably be overlooked. But running a business with an alias and involving the Internet yet again means this guy is toast, which is sad; butm what he did does not excuse his breaking his parole terms BIG time.

{^_^}

herself on September 28, 2012 at 4:20 AM

You are being stupid on purpose.

BoxHead1 on September 28, 2012 at 3:13 AM

Now, now, don’t be hard on the fellow. From everything I’ve read, he doesn’t have to try.

DrMagnolias on September 28, 2012 at 5:31 AM

Did he commit a serious crime that we don’t know about, or are they using a technicality to punish him for blasphemy?

Well, Duuuuhh.

MikeA on September 28, 2012 at 6:19 AM

Was it a double-secret probation violation?

Jingo95 on September 28, 2012 at 6:47 AM

Using an alias?

Well, I’ll bet Charlie Sheen and half the dopers, miscreants and perps are headed back to the slammer as we speak….

viking01 on September 28, 2012 at 6:54 AM

… dopers, miscreants and perps of Hollyweird, that is….

viking01 on September 28, 2012 at 6:56 AM

…Then they came for the sleazy, jackass, check-kiting soft-core video producers, and I said nothing because I was not a sleazy, jackass, check-kiting soft-core video producer…

Haiku Guy on September 28, 2012 at 7:16 AM

There has to be a real crime underlying this. Right?

We still fail to comprehend the evil inherent in progressive thought. These are people who coldly fight to slaughter new born babies, deliberately destroy families for power, steal or control our property, force basic healthcare decisions upon us, contaminate the culture with filth, sexualize our innocent children, and embrace immorality of every kind, attack God’s Church and dare to boo their own Creator while pretending to be messiah’s themselves.

They should never be misunderstood by sane and moral people, for it is we, each of us, all of us, who are at risk.

What’s at stake, or freedom, is precisely why we fought in WWII, and we mistakenly think it’s just about the economy.

Why are we risking our very freedom to think and act by thinking what is happening is just more dirty politics?

Don L on September 28, 2012 at 7:17 AM

This event is only a small and relatively benign version of the Sharia Law our masters are allowing to establish a foothold in our nation. You are either with the traitors and appeasers or you are not. Choose wisely.

insidiator on September 28, 2012 at 7:32 AM

Seriously, people, the guy could actually have been arrested for fraud. He missinformed the actors and other such things. I doubt this is some big conspiracy. If it was then they would have brought that whole thing up when it was first discovered that he lied to the actors.

DethMetalCookieMonst on September 28, 2012 at 7:39 AM

Seriously, people, the guy could actually have been arrested for fraud. He missinformed the actors and other such things. I doubt this is some big conspiracy. If it was then they would have brought that whole thing up when it was first discovered that he lied to the actors.

DethMetalCookieMonst on September 28, 2012 at 7:39 AM

You’re taking your eye off the ball and doing precisely what Obama hopes the little people will do, buying into distraction.

Don’t worry about the placement of the garnish when the entire garbage can is fouled and rotten.

Don L on September 28, 2012 at 7:49 AM

The film aside, are you suggesting that the feds should ignore the law because this guy a “free speech” hero, Allah? If he broke his probation conditions then he should be arrested like everybody else.
This guy is a fraudster and a thug! no sympathy for him.

Salahuddin on September 27, 2012 at 7:31 PM

This ^!!!

DethMetalCookieMonst on September 28, 2012 at 7:49 AM

Nowadays (given the technology) it may be impossible for someone, anyone to avoid using the internet for five years given how many companies and government agencies, and long-distance providers use VOIP and similar things. “Bob” is an alias.

What? Your cellphone has and includes internet access?, even if you’ve never used it that way? Back to the slammer for you!

Just calling his lawyer (on the government office’s VOIP)for this latest “justice” diversionary tactic might put him on the wrong side of the often ignorant law where the law and technology (remember Apple vs. Microsoft) literally speak different languages.

viking01 on September 28, 2012 at 7:51 AM

What? Your cellphone has and includes internet access?, even if you’ve never used it that way? Back to the slammer for you!

Most people, including people who make these “can’t use internet” probation rules, have no idea that VoiP and such use the Internet. Of course, none of us know what the exact wording of the condition is, either.

DethMetalCookieMonst on September 28, 2012 at 8:08 AM

Given the insanity of the past two weeks, replete with the White House nudging Google to pull the video off of YouTube and the State Department running ads on Pakistani TV to apologize for a movie they had nothing to do with,

You forgot the CJCS calling this filmaker and asking him to remove the video.

Happy Nomad on September 28, 2012 at 8:10 AM

My overall point being that if he (or anyone) has to get his parole officer’s consent and his parole officer probably isn’t in a position to know the intricacies of how tremendously (and sometimes invisibly) linked to the internet modern business, commerce, and communications which free enterprise is… then anyone in a similar situation might be similarly screwed.

viking01 on September 28, 2012 at 8:15 AM

There’s a public interest at this point, I think, in knowing why they’re sending him back to prison. Did he commit a serious crime that we don’t know about, or are they using a technicality to punish him for blasphemy? — allahpundit

good post

“Public interest” — not simply “inquiring minds want to know”.

Executive “privilege” does not extend where Bush and Obama have taken power.

All people are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. But given the Patriot Act, and with the neoconservative Republicans augmenting those abuses of power into perpetuity, there is no surprise that the illegitimate and corrupt anti-constitutional current administrations disappear/torture/assassinate US citizens and World Leaders alike.

So long as Holder’s vision remains the anti-constitutional purpose and function of our socially unjust Judicial Branch, “public interest” hardly matters to the illegitimate and corrupt leaders of our nation.

Our Congress, no thanks to neoconservative Republicans, made this top heavy Patriot Act DHS instability happen, “for our own good” — “because they could” as if to cure/prevent terrorism around the world. pfft

maverick muse on September 28, 2012 at 8:19 AM

It is also possible, perhaps even probable, that someone else posted the video to youtube. Lots of people post original work to youtube but plenty post everything from someone else’s 80s music videos, comedy clips, etc. captured off the VCR or other archived source.

viking01 on September 28, 2012 at 8:23 AM

The apologizing continues: US airs ad against film on Pakistan TV

The advert includes an image of the presidential seal, to show that it is authentic, and a label saying it was paid for. With subtitles in Urdu, it shows Mr Obama saying in a White House speech, “Since our founding, the United States has been a nation of respect – that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others.” Mrs Clinton then says: “Let me state very clearly that the United States has absolutely nothing to do with this video. We absolutely reject its contents.”

The state department said that the advert reached about 90m people in Pakistan. The last time the US paid for such public information slots in Pakistan was after the country’s 2005 earthquake.

Ed Snyder on September 28, 2012 at 8:29 AM

So he’s dismissive of conservatives yet I noticed the left-wing anti-war movement got awful quiet after Bush left office.

amerpundit on May 31, 2012 at 6:34 PM

Maybe it’s due to the fact that we haven’t started any trillion dollar high casualty wars and in fact are getting out of two which Republicans started.

lester on May 31, 2012 at 7:05 PM

from 10 pm above

“We” … no. Not I.

But indeed, US Presidents Bush and Obama have started trillion dollar high casualty wars in fact. Note well that our US tax funds sponsored and continue instituting the upheaval of the Middle East. “Arab Spring” rang your Pavlovian bell.

If you had an independent, functional brain, you’d recognize propaganda and quit salivating for blood every time the master’s bell rings. Libya alone amounts to the trillion dollar mark you’re blindly ignoring. Compound the piracy of the Libyan oil fields and underground fresh water reserves for global corporatist crop production, topped with the confiscation of the Central Bank of Libya’s gold and wealth reserves absconded by global investment monopolists pulling our Presidents’ and Congressional strings, it’s all blood money, in this case stolen from the citizens of Libya. As for “peace” in Libya, or in Egypt, given what US taxes sponsored under the constantly revising per election US policies, namely al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood as the two freshest examples, how does that represent the American Dream or the respect for humanity enshrined by our own Declaration of Independence?

Wars. And we’re told by the US neoconservative national leaders that these are by definition never ending wars. As if sponsoring the wholesale terrorism against all the Muslim nations, which was Obama’s gift that keeps on giving, would ever benefit the endowment by our Creator for all people to rightfully have life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Americans are screaming for the genocide of x,y,z Muslim nations, a sign of our own nation’s insanity.

The mob rule of “democracy” (what the US exported militarily) is neither “freedom” nor “liberty”. Never ending wars. Anyone dumb enough to have believed or still believe that “taking it over there” would secure America’s Constitutional Republic creates the augmentation of “the problem”. We’ve lost our own Constitutional Republic, traded in far too easily for the Patriot Act and DHS. Now, not only are our US military personnel committing suicide at the current unprecedented high rate, suicide is on the rise in America. Our local rag reported a 20% suicide increase in our conservative county this year.

When our votes are calculated electronically abroad in a foreign nation by a globalist corporation, in SPAIN of all unstable places, “Houston, we have a problem.” When the neoconservative leadership of the Republican party not only denounce grassroots conservatism, but negates GOP Campaign Rules “because they could”, recognize the same if not worse mechanism running both major political parties. Crony corruption for monopoly, no holds barred.

maverick muse on September 28, 2012 at 8:58 AM

This is scary.

McDuck on September 27, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Yes, it is.

magicbeans on September 28, 2012 at 9:00 AM

Five years without the internet or a computer? I thought their was something in the Bill of Rights About cruel and unusual punishment.

Seriously though, a probation violation at this time, for this, smacks of unequal, cruel, vindictive, cowardly application of the law, and dare I say, TYRANNY!

claudius on September 28, 2012 at 9:01 AM

If you read this article in the headlines on the home page:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/28/nyregion/mta-amends-rules-after-pro-israel-ads-draw-controversy.html?smid=tw-share&_r=2&

Then you’ll see this is how the NY Times continues to characterize the violence in Libya et al:

The advertisements have attracted considerable attention in recent weeks amid the violent and sometimes deadly protests across the Muslim world in response to an American-made video mocking the Prophet Muhammad.

despite all the evidence that this was a well-planned attack, which then conveniently used the video as a pretext. Same line on WCBS radio this morning, about the filmmaker who made the video that “sparked the violence” in the Middle East was arrested.

They keep covering for this shameless #$%^&*&! in the WH. It’s scary how the news is so protective of him. Putin is envious.

JoAnn1965 on September 28, 2012 at 9:20 AM

J.D. is right.

Probation is not constant monitoring, you have to be discovered doing something that is a violation. I know, it was usually the police who caught the violation and then notified the P.O.

That said, I’m not sure what his original crime was, but if the feds got involved, it had to be a pretty big paper crime. He was limited in his actions, that is the deal he signed onto in exchange for his freedom.

He obviously violated that. What bothers me is the targeting. It looks like, talks like, swims like a duck, so it does appear the feds are punishing him in order to appease the Islamic radicals in the Middle East.

This is akin to Governor Rick Scott in Florida ordering Angela Corey to arrest George Zimmerman, not because he was guilty, but because it might avert a threatened racial confrontation here.

Both acts are acts of a coward.

archer52 on September 28, 2012 at 9:23 AM

And so the administration pursues arrest of a “film maker”, which in and of itself is a laughable monicker, as a substitute for pursuing the murderers of our diplomats?

Meanwhile, CNN walks around the remnants of our embassy and gets criticized by the administration for it. Where are our investigators? Held back by Mr. Obama as he plays a meandering political blame-game.

That Mr. Obama has pursued and attacked free-speech as a distraction for political failures should concern every single American. We may not like or agree with what our countrymen say, but we have always equally defended each-others right to say it. That is not only a unique part of the American culture, but it is a right enshrined in our constitution, for which many have fought and died.

Marcus Traianus on September 28, 2012 at 9:39 AM

Whether it be Holder or Obama or whoever –
the directive to law enforcement here should be to ignore this guy – 100%.
If he seeks protection, that’s another story.
But it is at this stage completely impossible to separate any attention he receives from federal (or even state or local) authorities from the video he made.
As alleged here – he being accused of violating one of the conditions of his probation, but barely. Based on some previous financial scam charges, he’s barred from using a computer – one assumes to prevent from doing THAT again. So this is purely a technical violation – one that would easily be dealt with sans arrest.
This could well be folks further down the food chain making the calls here – but again, the higher ups should have made it clear that the jackass was to be left alone.

verbaluce on September 28, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Do any of the “law and order” defenders of this arrest actually think he would have been arrested if he had not made a video the Obama administration decided to scapegoat?

My guess is they won’t allege he violated the Mickey Mouse “used computer or internet” conditions, but will allege he “misled” authorities.

And no bail? Had he slit an old lady’s throat for a nickel, you can bet he would have gotten bail.

Jingo95 on September 28, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Who didn’t see this coming? Obama took it upon himself to legislate, in changing Welfare-to-work rules, appropriate money and levy taxes, in the recently released IRS federal exchange rules, initiate and close Justice Department investigations based purely upon political judgments, in the Pigford settlements, the Frank Vandersloot and Adelson investigations as compared to the investigations of the New Black Panthers. He doesn’t give a hoot for the separation of powers or the Bill of Rights.

So thought crime prosecutions don’t amaze me. What does totally amaze me is that so many people I know and love have so easily adjusted to this new American form of government.

MTF on September 28, 2012 at 10:45 AM

So thought crime prosecutions don’t amaze me. What does totally amaze me is that so many people I know and love have so easily adjusted to this new American form of government.

MTF on September 28, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Ditto. It brings disappointment and even sadness. I thought they were better than that.

fadetogray on September 28, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Having some experience with both judges and probation officers, I can say that if you technically violate your agreement the PO can recommend the judge violate you or they can look the other way. The judge can violate you regardless, of course. I’ve seen some POs and judges who will violate you and you go straight to jail for the slightest technical violation. Let’s not act like the Left and call everything a conspiracy when there could be a simple explanation. Like they got info, through news reports, interviews, etc that the guy violated. Happens to normal people all the time, okay?

RW Wacko on September 28, 2012 at 11:00 AM

Let’s not act like the Left and call everything a conspiracy when there could be a simple explanation.

99 times out of 100, when I “jump to conclusions” about things like this (intentions of the Left), and then later on we get better info, I turn out to be correct (the “spontaneous riot” that turned out to be a planned raid in Benghazi is one grossly obvious recent example).

That makes me very, very different from the Left, where they keep jumping and jumping and jumping to conclusions, and they’re wrong 99 times out of 100.

It’s called having or not having good judgment. Intellectual integrity and learning from experience factor into that.

Also, we know that if we wait for better info, we’re likely to never get it, at least not before it doesn’t matter any more. Gee. I wonder why that is?? Don’t want to sound like a conspiracy nut, so let’s suspend our good judgment and pretend its just a mystery.

fadetogray on September 28, 2012 at 11:16 AM

I read recently that of the 45,000 federal laws on the books, we each break two a day. So if the feds pay attention to you for a couples days they’ll have reason to drag you in.

Muslim heads of state, Muslim rabble in the streets overseas, and now here.

The leadership of the Islamic Society of Greater Kansas City have launched an online petition campaign for President Obama to back a bill to limit the free speech of American citizens they deem offensive.

It’s all a big coincidence.

Akzed on September 28, 2012 at 11:31 AM

So thought crime prosecutions don’t amaze me. What does totally amaze me is that so many people I know and love have so easily adjusted to this new American form of government.

MTF on September 28, 2012 at 10:45 AM

They are okay with it because a democratic president is doing it, and have you heard he’s black too? They are ethically flexible.

slickwillie2001 on September 28, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Allahpundit,

I can tell you that, as someone who has dealt with these people before, this is not likely some sort of top-down conspiracy. Instead, what likely happened here is that once national media attention picked up, either the probation officer himself, or his supervisor, or someone who knew him, called him up or emailed him and said something like “hey isn’t this your guy? according to these news stories, he’s in violation” and of course the probational officer is not going to turn a blind eye. There is no such thing as probation violations that the probation officers ignore. They see it as their job to arrest for any violation, and they do so routinely.

If the JUDGE wants to show mercy and, after evidence of violation, decides to re-impose the supervised release on the same conditions with a stern warning, or decides to change the conditions, or decides to put the guy in jail for X days or months and then let him back onto supervised release, that is all for the judge to decide.

Anyone who thinks our justice system operates on a higher level than anything else is kidding themselves. Some judges are very impressive professionals who dispassionately dispense justice according to the law without regard for bias, but most aren’t. If the judge doesn’t like a defendant for any reason, you can expect to get a worse result. So if you have a judge here who is following this news story and who thinks poorly of this guy on a personal level for making this movie, he will get a very bad result that is completely out of the norm for this kind of violation. The judge might even hold him responsible for the death of the ambassador, so you can imagine that if the judge thinks this is for “the greater good” the judge might throw this guy back in prison for the full original term, which is the most a judge can do.

If the judge simply follows what always happens in these situations, the consequences will be minimal. After all, the point of supervised release is to prevent recidivism. The fact that a guy used an alias to hide his identity FROM TERRORISTS is understandable. The fact that he might have used the internet to exercise free speech (I don’t know that he did, someone else could have uploaded the video to youtube) doesn’t have anything to do with his original crime. However it would still be considered an intentional violation of his conditions for release so it is not like it would get completely ignored.

Probation/suprvised release conditions on internet usage, outside of very limited exceptions where the crime involved heavy specific internet usage, such as hacking crimes, are absurd. The problem is that old judges do not understand how important the internet is to people’s daily lives. Judges would NEVER consider banning someone from phone usage under similar circumstances. For some warped reason, the internet is seen as an optional toy instead of a critical and fundamental medium of communication like a phone.

kaltes on September 28, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Does anyone seriously believe if this guy had made a video mocking Jesus, and that controversy about that video was what had brought him to the attention of the authorities, that he would be sitting behind bars right now?

If you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.

fadetogray on September 28, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Seems to me that just because he made the film, that is not proof he uploaded it to the web. He could have asked someone else to do it so as not to violate his probation conditions.

It doesn’t really matter as much as the fact that this was the excuse the government thugs are using to violate his free speech right. Take a close look at the face of the US police state.

woodNfish on September 28, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Seems to me that just because he made the film, that is not proof he uploaded it to the web. He could have asked someone else to do it so as not to violate his probation conditions.

woodNfish on September 28, 2012 at 12:33 PM

I was just thinking the same thing.

James on September 28, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Seems to me that just because he made the film, that is not proof he uploaded it to the web. He could have asked someone else to do it so as not to violate his probation conditions.

woodNfish on September 28, 2012 at 12:33 PM

I was just thinking the same thing.

James on September 28, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Of course. He has one or two partners in the making of the film, and it’s no stretch to suggest that one of them might be handling promotion of the film.

slickwillie2001 on September 28, 2012 at 1:23 PM

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