Feds arrest Mohammed filmmaker on probation violation

posted at 7:12 pm on September 27, 2012 by Allahpundit

No word yet on what the violation was, but I assume it must be far more serious than using an alias or a computer. Given the insanity of the past two weeks, replete with the White House nudging Google to pull the video off of YouTube and the State Department running ads on Pakistani TV to apologize for a movie they had nothing to do with, I can’t quite believe the DOJ would risk the perception that they’re punishing this guy for a thoughtcrime unless something serious was involved. There has to be a real crime underlying this. Right?

The California man behind a crudely produced anti-Islamic video that has inflamed parts of the Middle East was arrested Thursday for violating terms of his probation, authorities said.

[The filmmaker] has been on probation for a 2010 federal check fraud conviction that brought a 21-month prison sentence. Under terms of his probation, he was not to use computers or the Internet for five years without approval from his probation officer…

A U.S. District Court hearing was scheduled for [him] on Thursday afternoon. It was closed to media and the public.

Meanwhile, new from Fox News:

Two weeks after the killing of a U.S. ambassador in Libya — an attack the Obama administration blamed in part on an online video mocking the prophet Muhammad — a majority of likely voters thinks the first thing a president should do in such situations is stand up for free speech, and not criticize how Americans exercise their First Amendment rights.

A Fox News poll released Thursday finds 61 percent of voters think the president of the United States should “stand up for freedom of speech, even if it’s offensive,” while 22 percent say the president should “condemn offensive speech if it might provoke Islamic violence.”

Those 22 percent know something important that the 61 percent don’t, namely, that the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. And if we occasionally have to haul a guy in on a probation violation to ensure that the future doesn’t belong to him, hey. Exit quotation from our new kinda sorta ally in Egypt: “Egypt respects freedom of expression … [but] not a freedom of expression that targets a specific religion or a specific culture.”

Update: In order to prove that it’s evenhanded about blasphemy, Egypt’s gone ahead and arrested a Muslim cleric for burning a copy of the Bible. Note to The One: If you want to show the Middle East that American free-speech principles are not, in fact, an anti-Muslim plot and apply even to people who insult the faith of most Americans, this is a fine opportunity. Speak up in this guy’s favor.

Update: According to TMZ, the guy’s probation report is sealed. Question for criminal defense attorneys: Is there any way to force it to be unsealed, or is that at the discretion of one or both of the parties? There’s a public interest at this point, I think, in knowing why they’re sending him back to prison. Did he commit a serious crime that we don’t know about, or are they using a technicality to punish him for blasphemy?


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The Temple still has to be rebuilt . . . on the site of the former (Solomon’s) Temple.

Guess what’s in the way . . . . . : )

listens2glenn on September 27, 2012 at 8:27 PM

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Something that I’d dynamite tomorrow if I were Israel.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 8:28 PM

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Yeah, I have a theory on that . . . . . we already know the militant Islamists use their Mosques for the storage of weapons and related ordinance.
So, what if one day there were an “accidental detonation” ?
It might actually be an accident, too . . . . . as opposed to the Mossad triggering it.

listens2glenn on September 27, 2012 at 8:36 PM

And what about the people who killed our ambassador? Oh, that’s right, they got apologies.

JellyToast on September 27, 2012 at 8:29 PM

They will get apologies, in the form of bullets directly inserted into their brains. Some of them might receive the fireworks variety. Obama’s done it before. If you doubt ask a lot of other dead terrorists.

lester on September 27, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Yeah, I have a theory on that . . . . . we already know the militant Islamists use their Mosques for the storage of weapons and related ordinance.
So, what if one day there were an “accidental detonation” ?
It might actually be an accident, too . . . . . as opposed to the Mossad triggering it.

listens2glenn on September 27, 2012 at 8:36 PM

There is nothing more I’d like to see than the dome of the rock’s destruction other possibly than the demolition of the minarets erected around St. Sophia in Constantinople.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Arrested for free speech and claiming it a violation of his probation. Can we start a defense fund for this gentleman because this is ridiculous. I don’t support this gentleman nor support his flick, but I do support his right to defame Islam, burn the flag , or even pose Christ in urine. It the idea of freedom of speech which most be defended not the act itself.

jjnco73 on September 27, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Do you really believe that you haven’t broken any laws this week?

sharrukin on September 27, 2012 at 8:36 PM

We’ve been down this road before.
I pay my dues.

OTTO on September 27, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Yeah, I have a theory on that . . . . . we already know the militant Islamists use their Mosques for the storage of weapons and related ordinance.
So, what if one day there were an “accidental detonation” ?
It might actually be an accident, too . . . . . as opposed to the Mossad triggering it.

listens2glenn on September 27, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Theoretically possible but not very likely. Muslims are evil and stupid in many ways, but they’re not complete idiots.

Anything powerful enough to reduce the temple to rubble likely wouldn’t be allowed simply on the risk of the Mossad rigging a remote detonator to it. And the imams probably know but won’t mention the likelihood of some dumbarse jihadi blowing the place up by accident.

MelonCollie on September 27, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Speakup on September 27, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Hidden away in Senate Bill [S 1813 ES] [otherwise known as Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century Act’] is a provision for the seizure of passports of any and all who are “delinquent” in their federal taxes.

This proposed law, which supposedly covers highways, highway safety and construction and the like, as well as provisions for national parks, and restrictions on personal cigarette machines, includes under Section 40304, subsection 4 language that any individual who owes more than $50,000 to the Internal Revenue Service may be subject to “action with respect to denial, revocation, or limitation of a passport”. Given how fast and loose the IRS has been over the years and there being no specific language about being indicted, tried and found guilty…might give us all pause. All the IRS need do is to allege that some person “owes” them.

The bill is in the House, having passed the Senate.

If you’ve the time, it is a real eye-opener to read 9warning, it is long0 just shows how legislation that can easily change the lives of US citizens is hidden away in bills that are disguised to represent other matters.

At least real despots and dictators announce their Nurembeg Laws loudly and proudly. This one, The One…not so much.

coldwarrior on September 27, 2012 at 8:40 PM

The day Roberts stabbed us in the back I said “we no longer have a Republic”.

This arrest of an American citizen for the “crime” of blaspheming a foreign prophet of a foreign religion responsible for the murder of thousands of Americans is proof that we no longer are a Republic.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Without giving personal details…

+.7.62

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 8:40 PM

As I’ve said before I’ve seen some of the worst of judicial discretion here in the “Commonwealth” and have no pity at this point for any law breakers.

OTTO on September 27, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Do you really believe that you haven’t broken any laws this week?

sharrukin on September 27, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Considering that there are literally thousands of new laws passed each year by all layers of governments (and virtually none ever repealed) nearly every single American is a felon if someone with an agenda and a prosecutorial office decided to make you one.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 8:42 PM

In the Ryan case, the Chicago Tribune and a Chicago TV station sued in Los Angeles (where the divorce proceedings took place) to unseal the records. In keeping with prior rulings nationwide, the court concluded that the public’s right of access outweighed whatever emotional distress the unsealing might cause. (Slate, June 23, 2004)

lester on September 27, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Sh1tcago Tribune
Sh1tcago TV station
Los Angeles court
My oh my , those are some real guardians of public interest.
BTW, why did Hussein seal his own records ? Don’t tell me it is because he doesn’t want to go through some kind of emotional distress !

burrata on September 27, 2012 at 8:44 PM

The day Roberts stabbed us in the back I said “we no longer have a Republic”.

This arrest of an American citizen for the “crime” of blaspheming a foreign prophet of a foreign religion responsible for the murder of thousands of Americans is proof that we no longer are a Republic.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 8:33 PM

No it’s just proof that you don’t know what you are talking about. The film make beat a suit today and won’t be charged with making a movie. He is charged with parole violations.

If you don’t like the fact that convicted criminals have reduced freedoms then say so but don’t so idiotic to think the guy is being charged with blasphemy.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:44 PM

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:44 PM

What are his violations?

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 8:47 PM

No it’s just proof that you don’t know what you are talking about. The film make beat a suit today and won’t be charged with making a movie. He is charged with parole violations.

If you don’t like the fact that convicted criminals have reduced freedoms then say so but don’t so idiotic to think the guy is being charged with blasphemy.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:44 PM

The Obama regime has constantly lied about this film and related incidents, so conspiracy is more plausible than not.

the_nile on September 27, 2012 at 8:47 PM

That was lightning fast justice.

Remind me, how long did it take DOJ to investigate the killing of our border agent?

Hurt a muslim’s feelings and Obama’s on it like flies on shlt. Kill a border agent, meh.

Please, please let us have an American president again.

fogw on September 27, 2012 at 8:47 PM

No it’s just proof that you don’t know what you are talking about. The film make beat a suit today and won’t be charged with making a movie. He is charged with parole violations.

If you don’t like the fact that convicted criminals have reduced freedoms then say so but don’t so idiotic to think the guy is being charged with blasphemy.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:44 PM

In the age of Mike Nifong and Angela Corey I don’t automatically assume anyone convicted is guilty without overwhelming publicly available evidence to weigh for myself.

If you believe that this guy was arrested for ANY REASON other than blaspheming islam, well, all I can say is I wish I could be that naive and believe it.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Considering that there are literally thousands of new laws passed each year by all layers of governments (and virtually none ever repealed) nearly every single American is a felon if someone with an agenda and a prosecutorial office decided to make you one.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 8:42 PM

That’s it exactly. When politics enters the judiciary it corrupts everything. The law can only function if the majority of people can expect a fair shake from it.

sharrukin on September 27, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Sh1tcago Tribune
Sh1tcago TV station
Los Angeles court
My oh my , those are some real guardians of public interest.
BTW, why did Hussein seal his own records ? Don’t tell me it is because he doesn’t want to go through some kind of emotional distress !

burrata on September 27, 2012 at 8:44 PM

And why is it not in the public interest to have such records UNSEALED when this man seeks 4 more years of rule over us?

If Obama wants to be a private citizen he shouldn’t seek public office.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Does everyone realize how “Soviet” it sounds, the lot of us trying to speculate as to exactly “why” someone got arrested?

By the way, for him to use the internet is not a violation of his probation, only doing so without authorization.

Bulletchaser on September 27, 2012 at 8:50 PM

So far, local media is reporting that the only probation violation is using the internet.

I’m guessing the report can be sealed but the violations have to be read in open court.

Captain Kirock on September 27, 2012 at 8:50 PM

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:44 PM

The FBI called him in for questioning, when his crimes were not Federal. then they let him go.

Now they’re hauling him back in?

Do you even know what you’re trying to defend here?

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 8:50 PM

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Nexus and timing are to be questioned.

The film (and the violation of parole) took place many many months ago.

Wasn’t until after the DoJ publicly identified Nakoula, following the Benghazi and Cairo episodes) that they moved to arrest him.

The video was made when?

Was he not in violation of his parole at that point, months and months ago?

And, how many thousands of capital or serious criminals out on probation violate their probation routinely and are not arrested?

Think NFL and NBA.

This is selective prosecution.

coldwarrior on September 27, 2012 at 8:51 PM

The Obama regime has constantly lied about this film and related incidents, so conspiracy is more plausible than not.

the_nile on September 27, 2012 at 8:47 PM

No, the maker of the movie has constantly lied about the movie. He misled the actors, the press, and probably the investors. He tried to pass it off as the work of Jews. He is a convicted con artist.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:51 PM

That’s it exactly. When politics enters the judiciary it corrupts everything. The law can only function if the majority of people can expect a fair shake from it.

sharrukin on September 27, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Which is impossible to have when it’s become accepted for people IN our legal system such as judges and prosecutors to look at a law and completely ignore it for their own political purposes.

Our entire legal system needs drastic reform, from the prosecutor all the way to SCOTUS.

Because judges and prosecutors are PRESUMED “honorable” there exists no method of self correction for this kind of corruption.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Do you even know what you’re trying to defend here?

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 8:50 PM

He gets his free phone , he’s pleased.

the_nile on September 27, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Kansas City Muslims Want Limits on Free Speech

Flora Duh on September 27, 2012 at 8:41 PM

I find that any response I want to make would probably get me banned.

Night Owl on September 27, 2012 at 8:53 PM

No, the maker of the movie has constantly lied about the movie. He misled the actors, the press, and probably the investors. He tried to pass it off as the work of Jews. He is a convicted con artist.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Is lying a crime?

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Is lying a crime?

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 8:53 PM

If it were we wouldn’t be able to build enough prisons to house all the liberals who would be convicted of it.

But we would solve our unemployment problem…

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Admit it: If Nakaoula had not been arrested, and it was not learned until later that he violated his probation and was allowed to remain free anyway, you guys would be all over Obama for not enforcing the law.

Drew Lowell on September 27, 2012 at 7:30 PM

Liar.

Bulletchaser on September 27, 2012 at 8:54 PM

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Punchenko on September 27, 2012 at 7:15

cableguy615 on September 27, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 8:40 PM

X54. R…

affenhauer on September 27, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Yeah, I have a theory on that . . . . . we already know the militant Islamists use their Mosques for the storage of weapons and related ordinance.
So, what if one day there were an “accidental detonation” ?
It might actually be an accident, too . . . . . as opposed to the Mossad triggering it.

listens2glenn on September 27, 2012 at 8:36 PM

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There is nothing more I’d like to see than the dome of the rock’s destruction other possibly than the demolition of the minarets erected around St. Sophia in Constantinople.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 8:39 PM
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Theoretically possible but not very likely. Muslims are evil and stupid in many ways, but they’re not complete idiots.

Anything powerful enough to reduce the temple to rubble likely wouldn’t be allowed simply on the risk of the Mossad rigging a remote detonator to it. And the imams probably know but won’t mention the likelihood of some dumbarse jihadi blowing the place up by accident.

MelonCollie on September 27, 2012 at 8:40 PM

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wildcat’, you’re obviously an Islamaphobe of the most extreme variety, and need therapy at one of our soon-to-be-built Reeducation Centers.
.
‘Collie, I believe they would use the Dome Of The Rock in an instant, if they thought it would aid them in carrying out the various “Kamikaze missions” they regularly attempt.

listens2glenn on September 27, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Actually, I assume the probation violation was precisely using an alias or the computer. The feds were looking for any conceivable pretext for arresting the guy.

J.E. Dyer on September 27, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Because judges and prosecutors are PRESUMED “honorable” there exists no method of self correction for this kind of corruption.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Fixed penalties.
End judicial discretion.
Not a fan of the plea bargain either.

OTTO on September 27, 2012 at 8:56 PM

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:44 PM

The FBI called him in for questioning, when his crimes were not Federal. then they let him go.

Now they’re hauling him back in?

Do you even know what you’re trying to defend here?

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 8:50 PM

He is not under any federal charges that I am aware of. Do you know the difference between states and the federal government?

It was the LA prosecutor who is charging the idiot for parole violations. He used aliases and computers in violation of his agreement with CA authorities so he is going back for more.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:57 PM

What is bank fraud anyway?

How come none of the people who lied about their ability to pay who got a sub prime loan have been convicted of bank fraud? How come none of the lenders who “wink wink, nudge nudge” ENCOURAGED lending money to people who couldn’t pay it back have been convicted of bank fraud?

Why does John Corzine walk free today?

Why does Bawney Fwank?

Answer: None of those people “blasphemed” the “prophet of islam”.
(although Bawney wouldn’t live long in Iran or any other islamic country…)

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 8:57 PM

No it’s just proof that you don’t know what you are talking about. The film make beat a suit today and won’t be charged with making a movie. He is charged with parole violations.

If you don’t like the fact that convicted criminals have reduced freedoms then say so but don’t so idiotic to think the guy is being charged with blasphemy.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:44 PM

You are entitled your opinion but you are wrong.

A U.S. District Court hearing was scheduled for [him] on Thursday afternoon. It was closed to media and the public.

O yes, Federal Court today is closed to the public which is the first time this has happened.

jjnco73 on September 27, 2012 at 8:58 PM

No, the maker of the movie has constantly lied about the movie. He misled the actors, the press, and probably the investors. He tried to pass it off as the work of Jews. He is a convicted con artist.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:51 PM

You just described Hussein Odinga Soerbarakh Dunham Barry Sotero Barack Baraka Obama !!

burrata on September 27, 2012 at 8:58 PM

I’m not big on the idea of ‘political prisoners’ like the liars Angela Davis and cop-killer Mumia.

But this time, under Obama, I think we truly have one.

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 8:58 PM

No, the maker of the movie has constantly lied about the movie. He misled the actors, the press, and probably the investors. He tried to pass it off as the work of Jews. He is a convicted con artist.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Is lying a crime?

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 8:53 PM

If you are convicted fraudster on parole you don’t have the rights the rest of us enjoy.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:59 PM

If he was on the left he would be speaking at the UN.

tomas on September 27, 2012 at 8:59 PM

[The filmmaker] has been on probation for a 2010 federal check fraud conviction that brought a 21-month prison sentence. Under terms of his probation, he was not to use computers or the Internet for five years without approval from his probation officer

I would think the purpose was to prevent this guy from engaging in any kind of MONETARY FRAUD.

Why do I think Eric Holder is going to end up with egg of his face?
And WHERE IS THE ACLU?

GarandFan on September 27, 2012 at 9:00 PM

No, the maker of the movie has constantly lied about the movie. He misled the actors, the press, and probably the investors. He tried to pass it off as the work of Jews. He is a convicted con artist.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Well , when you put it that way , maybe Obama is hiring him?

the_nile on September 27, 2012 at 9:00 PM

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:57 PM

So what?

The difference between him being used as a political tool and you being one is that you are willing.

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 9:00 PM

He is not under any federal charges that I am aware of. Do you know the difference between states and the federal government?

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:57 PM

He is being held under federal jurisdiction, before the Federal District Court.

Were he a mere state felon…the feds would not be involved at this level.

coldwarrior on September 27, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Is lying a crime?

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 8:53 PM

No .
It is presidential now .

burrata on September 27, 2012 at 9:02 PM

If the parole violation were serious, I think that would have been made clear by the authorities. They may be closing the court hearing out of security concerns, but if the parole violation passed the smell test — was obviously something that matters, like continue financial fraud, as opposed to something that doesn’t — the feds would presumably have simply stated what it was.

J.E. Dyer on September 27, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Sh1tcago Tribune
Sh1tcago TV station
Los Angeles court
My oh my , those are some real guardians of public interest.
BTW, why did Hussein seal his own records ? Don’t tell me it is because he doesn’t want to go through some kind of emotional distress !

burrata on September 27, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Everybody’s in on it. Right…

lester on September 27, 2012 at 9:02 PM

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:57 PM

So what?

The difference between him being used as a political tool and you being one is that you are willing.

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 9:00 PM

You asked so I told you. Your personal attacks don’t alter the answer.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 9:03 PM

wildcat’, you’re obviously an Islamaphobe of the most extreme variety, and need therapy at one of our soon-to-be-built Reeducation Centers.

listens2glenn on September 27, 2012 at 8:56 PM

My very existence is “blaspheming” islam. I am rather proud of that.

Notice how I never capitalize islam, mohammed or muslim? Notice that I refuse to call the ancient capital of the Eastern Roman Empire that was founded by and named after the first Christian Emperor by any name but Constantinople?

I despise islam. I think due to it’s seditious and treasonous nature a FAR better case can be made of making it illegal and illegitimate with respect to the first amendment than blaspheming it can!

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Ok, here, muslims: I think your “prophet” was a cross dressing whore who had a habit of having relations with pigs. I think your NONEXISTANT “god” allah is a fraud and that dog excrement is more holy than whatever the hell it is you worship in mecca. And Islam is a cult of homo-sucking-monkeys, and if that isn’t true, my name is Barak Obama and may Allah strike me dead…

I added a little bit for you :)

rgranger on September 27, 2012 at 9:03 PM

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:57 PM

If the LA (local) prosecutor filed the violation, why did the Feds pick him up..?

affenhauer on September 27, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Why do I think Eric Holder is going to end up with egg of his face?
And WHERE IS THE ACLU?

GarandFan on September 27, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Defending the FEDERALLY funded “piss Christ” exhibit in NYC and suing cheerleaders to keep them from writing Christian messages on signs for football players to run through.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 9:04 PM

affenhauer on September 27, 2012 at 9:03 PM

The US Attorney in LA ordered the arrest, not the LA County prosecutor.

coldwarrior on September 27, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Ok, here, muslims: I think your “prophet” was a cross dressing whore who had a habit of having relations with pigs. I think your NONEXISTANT “god” allah is a fraud and that dog excrement is more holy than whatever the hell it is you worship in mecca. And Islam is a cult of homo-sucking-monkeys, and if that isn’t true, my name is Barak Obama and may Allah strike me dead…

I added a little bit for you :)

rgranger on September 27, 2012 at 9:03 PM

You did improve upon it definitely.

I consider that the Nicene Creed for those of us who refuse to submit to the ROP.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Everybody’s in on it. Right…

lester on September 27, 2012 at 9:02 PM

So why have the same Sh1tcago Tribune and
Sh1tcago TV station sued to unseal Hussein’s records ?

burrata on September 27, 2012 at 9:06 PM

J.E. Dyer on September 27, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Parole violations are set to be rigid and easy to administer. I know someone who was banned from using computers without permission. When his family were visiting someone used a computer at his place and eventually he had to go back to jail. The judge wasn’t interested who used the computer or why. This was also in CA.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 9:06 PM

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:57 PM

I don’t think you’re getting this at all.

But, when it comes to liberals, every Conservative here rejects anything you have to say.

The reason for that is because–only and because–of how liberals have presented themselves.

While it might be true Conservatives are an impediment to liberals–as it should be–liberals are, realistically, their own destruction and failure to their own cause.

Stalin shot such people.

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Iowahawk: “The Rubicon disappears from the rear view mirror. “

dont taze me bro on September 27, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Parole violations are set to be rigid and easy to administer. I know someone who was banned from using computers without permission. When his family were visiting someone used a computer at his place and eventually he had to go back to jail. The judge wasn’t interested who used the computer or why. This was also in CA.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 9:06 PM

I have known judges who get annoyed when you confront them with facts and in many locales, jails are PROFIT CENTERS because they get money from the state or feds to house prisoners. Even local county jails.

Our justice system is far more disgusting than the process of sausage making. Mike Nifong and Angela Corey are far from uncommon…

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 9:08 PM

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:57 PM

If the LA (local) prosecutor filed the violation, why did the Feds pick him up..?

affenhauer on September 27, 2012 at 9:03 PM

You probably watched earlier footage of something else. The parole was a CA parole and the violation charge was filed in LA county by the local DA.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Everybody’s in on it. Right…

lester on September 27, 2012 at 9:02 PM

If by ‘in on it’ you mean they’re willing Obama suckups, then yes.

Who the hell needs a big tinfoil-hat conspiracy?

MelonCollie on September 27, 2012 at 9:10 PM

You asked so I told you. Your personal attacks don’t alter the answer.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 9:03 PM

And you are inadequate to defending your side of political discussion.

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Everybody’s in on it. Right…

lester on September 27, 2012 at 9:02 PM

So why have the same Sh1tcago Tribune and
Sh1tcago TV station NOT sued to unseal Hussein’s records ?

burrata on September 27, 2012 at 9:11 PM

The US Attorney in LA ordered the arrest, not the LA County prosecutor.
coldwarrior on September 27, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Just catching up here – sorry. I saw that lex had said the guy doesn’t have any fed violations, so the idea of the Feds nabbing him seemed a little…curious…

affenhauer on September 27, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Sh1tcago Tribune
Sh1tcago TV station
Los Angeles court
My oh my , those are some real guardians of public interest.
BTW, why did Hussein seal his own records ? Don’t tell me it is because he doesn’t want to go through some kind of emotional distress !

burrata on September 27, 2012 at 8:44 PM

And why is it not in the public interest to have such records UNSEALED when this man seeks 4 more years of rule over us?

If Obama wants to be a private citizen he shouldn’t seek public office.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 8:49 PM

So you can call those fake too as you do the birth certificate? There’s no satisfying the conspiracy theorists. It’s impossible by definition. He should just ignore the Taitz&Trump crowd.

lester on September 27, 2012 at 9:13 PM

You asked so I told you. Your personal attacks don’t alter the answer.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 9:03 PM

And you are inadequate to defending your side of political discussion.

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Lying is a crime under many statutes and under many conditions. That is not a political argument. It is a fact. I am not arguing that parole conditions are good or bad or that convicted felons should or should not loose their rights. That would be a political discussion.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Everybody’s in on it. Right…

lester on September 27, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Yes, it’s utterly impossible to think that two left-wing institutions in America’s most corrupt political city would do a favor for an up-and-coming machine politician. This is, like, an Umberto Eco-level conspiracy delusion. Wheels within wheels within pinwheels within even BIGGER wheels.

Good Solid B-Plus on September 27, 2012 at 9:13 PM

affenhauer on September 27, 2012 at 9:12 PM

it appears lex is still running with the “state violation” meme.

coldwarrior on September 27, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Everybody’s in on it. Right…

lester on September 27, 2012 at 9:02 PM

No , just jornolist.

the_nile on September 27, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Just catching up here – sorry. I saw that lex had said the guy doesn’t have any fed violations, so the idea of the Feds nabbing him seemed a little…curious…

affenhauer on September 27, 2012 at 9:12 PM

You are absolutely right and I am dead wrong on that. Thanks.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 9:14 PM

So you can call those fake too as you do the birth certificate? There’s no satisfying the conspiracy theorists. It’s impossible by definition. He should just ignore the Taitz&Trump crowd.

lester on September 27, 2012 at 9:13 PM

I think a man who seeks to be my ruler whom people say deserves to be so because of his “intelligence” should have to show me his grades. And he should have to show me how he got through some notoriously expensive schools. Did he seek the status as a foreign exchange student? And why did Obama’s own biography WHICH HE SUBMITTED to his own publisher claim he was from Kenya?

Those are all legitimate points.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 9:15 PM

They will get apologies, in the form of bullets directly inserted into their brains. Some of them might receive the fireworks variety. Obama’s done it before. If you doubt ask a lot of other dead terrorists.

lester on September 27, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Funny, that used to be a war crime when Dubya did it. Now lefties are frothily cheering on the parade of death like it’s First Blood: Part 2.

Good Solid B-Plus on September 27, 2012 at 9:16 PM

The parole was a CA parole and the violation charge was filed in LA county by the local DA.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 9:08 PM

The US Attorney’s office in Los Angeles confirmed Nakoula had been taken into custody earlier on Thursday. Source

Flora Duh on September 27, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Flora Duh on September 27, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Yep and his original charges where federal as well as was his parole.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 9:18 PM

So why have the same Sh1tcago Tribune and
Sh1tcago TV station sued to unseal Hussein’s records ?

burrata on September 27, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Which records? School? You can’t sue for that. You do understand the difference between divorce records and education records, right? To seal divorce records you have to ask court and prove that it can cause a party harm if made public. You can’t sue a school to release sh1t.

lester on September 27, 2012 at 9:19 PM

They will get apologies, in the form of bullets directly inserted into their brains. Some of them might receive the fireworks variety. Obama’s done it before. If you doubt ask a lot of other dead terrorists.

lester on September 27, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Funny, that used to be a war crime when Dubya did it. Now lefties are frothily cheering on the parade of death like it’s First Blood: Part 2.

Good Solid B-Plus on September 27, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Because Obama is President those are “their” death squads now.

Just paraphrasing (then) liberal Ron Silver’s remark to Bill Clinton in 1993… “those are OUR jets now”.

Fortunately for Ron, he came to his senses before he died.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Kansas City Muslims Want Limits on Free Speech

Flora Duh on September 27, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Hey – you Kansas City Muslims – I’m all for limiting your free speech, so STFU.

Mmmkay?

Hill60 on September 27, 2012 at 9:19 PM

So you can call those fake too as you do the birth certificate? There’s no satisfying the conspiracy theorists. It’s impossible by definition. He should just ignore the Taitz&Trump crowd.

lester on September 27, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Aaaawwww… no one believes the pooo lil bammie :(
I wonder why ?
Anyhoo, are you telling me that Hussein sealed each and every document about him because if people saw those documents, they would call them fakes ?

burrata on September 27, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Which records? School? You can’t sue for that.

Might wish to revisit that one.

School records are not infallibly sacrosanct.

coldwarrior on September 27, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Lying is a crime under many statutes and under many conditions. That is not a political argument. It is a fact. I am not arguing that parole conditions are good or bad or that convicted felons should or should not loose their rights. That would be a political discussion.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 9:13 PM

But you are quite political in the end, aren’t you, lex? But only when it suits your own personal politics. You use unrelated matters to validate yourselves.

Do what you gotta do.

We, who in opposition to you, have our own plans.

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Anybody see this piece by Pat Caddell? I think he nails it about the press abdicating their role in a free society, especially in the last two weeks.

txmomof6 on September 27, 2012 at 9:24 PM

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:44 PM

.

Explain how the Feds would have even known about the parole violation absence the bru-ha-ha over the film.

chemman on September 27, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Kansas City Muslims Want Limits on Free Speech

Flora Duh on September 27, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Well, Kansas City Mohammedans…you can try Karachi or Kandahar. Neither are very big on unlimited free speech.

Have a nice trip.

coldwarrior on September 27, 2012 at 9:26 PM

lester on September 27, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Hypocrite. It wasn’t that long ago you were arguing that Romney needed to release his tax records and because he hadn’t he must be hiding something.

It appears your Jedi-master’s skin is too thin to release those records and take whatever heat that comes.

chemman on September 27, 2012 at 9:29 PM

To seal divorce records you have to ask court and prove that it can cause a party harm if made public.

In Ryan’s case, Ryan must have proved to the court that keeping the records sealed would protect his kids and the judge must have agreed.
So , WHAT exactly was Hussein’s interest in unsealing them ?

You can’t sue a school to release sh1t.

lester on September 27, 2012 at 9:19 PM

I agree, anything about Hussein is beyond the reach of our courts and law .

burrata on September 27, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Well, Kansas City Mohammedans…you can try Karachi or Kandahar. Neither are very big on unlimited free speech.

Have a nice trip.

coldwarrior on September 27, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Barbarian muslims are barbarians who live in the dark ages wherever you find them, from caves in Tora Bora to a condo in New York City.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Funny, that used to be a war crime when Dubya did it. Now lefties are frothily cheering on the parade of death like it’s First Blood: Part 2.

Good Solid B-Plus on September 27, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Someone should do a trailer, “Blood oceans rising,Obama muslim slayer.”

the_nile on September 27, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Just heard he was sent to jail for his parole violations, despite his attorney saying he would be in danger there. Apparently the judge said he was a “danger to society.”

So is that now a crime?

Bail Denied

PattyJ on September 27, 2012 at 9:38 PM

If a shoddy 14 minute video was responsible for a murderous Mideast firestorm and sacked embassies, what can we expect from the $60 million Obama-assisted Sony production on the killing of bin laden? And who will be to blame? Do the Feds go to Kathryn Bigelow’s door to arrest her for 10-year-old parking violations? Does Obama order an arrest of himself? Or does art suddenly become irrelevant?

rrpjr on September 27, 2012 at 9:41 PM

the_nile on September 27, 2012 at 8:14 PM

ReWrite™ of the Day.

Steve Eggleston on September 27, 2012 at 9:48 PM

If a shoddy 14 minute video was responsible for a murderous Mideast firestorm and sacked embassies, what can we expect from the $60 million Obama-assisted Sony production on the killing of bin laden? And who will be to blame? Do the Feds go to Kathryn Bigelow’s door to arrest her for 10-year-old parking violations? Does Obama order an arrest of himself? Or does art suddenly become irrelevant?

rrpjr on September 27, 2012 at 9:41 PM

The Obama Killed Bin Laden movie MUST be banned if Obama is to be consistent.

Of course it won’t be.

Obama tried to get Google to take the mohammed movie off YouTube. He won’t try to get the movie glorifying himself banned of course.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Luckily the ACLU will be on the scene to defend his freedom of speech any second! Right guys? Right?

somnicide on September 27, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Luckily the ACLU will be on the scene to defend his freedom of speech any second! Right guys? Right?

somnicide on September 27, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Only if it’s federally funded blasphemy like “Piss Christ”.

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 9:51 PM

PattyJ on September 27, 2012 at 9:38 PM

“Danger to society”? Because he might make another crappy movie??
I think that whole thing tells us all we need to know. Well, Kameraden, it was a nice republic we had – forward to the next stage..?

affenhauer on September 27, 2012 at 9:53 PM

No, the maker of the movie has constantly lied about the movie. He misled the actors, the press, and probably the investors. He tried to pass it off as the work of Jews. He is a convicted con artist.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Is lying a crime?

Liam on September 27, 2012 at 8:53 PM

If you are convicted fraudster on parole you don’t have the rights the rest of us enjoy.

lexhamfox on September 27, 2012 at 8:59 PM

The guy can’t lie? Where is that written? So if he tells his date that he is “endowed” and it’s determined he isn’t he can be
arrested?

It’s okay. When The Free Speech Police and The Religion of Peace come for us, we will be sure to tell them you were on their side.

kim roy on September 27, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Danger to society”? Because he might make another crappy movie??
I think that whole thing tells us all we need to know. Well, Kameraden, it was a nice republic we had – forward to the next stage..?

affenhauer on September 27, 2012 at 9:53 PM

If only they’d arrest Michael Moore before he makes more crappy movies…

wildcat72 on September 27, 2012 at 9:53 PM

I guarntee this. The lefties and their boot licking media will say exactly this…..”He was arrested because of a parole violation, it had nothing to do with the movie he made”. Of course no one will point out that he had been brought in for “questioning” after the religion of the perpetually offended went nutso about a movie they’d neither seen nor heard of. So when your leftist coworker or realitive says it’s because of a parole violation. Ask why the feds had him in two weeks ago about his movie?

Minnfidel on September 27, 2012 at 9:57 PM

JellyToast on September 27, 2012 at 8:29 PM

They will get apologies, in the form of bullets directly inserted into their brains. Some of them might receive the fireworks variety. Obama’s done it before. If you doubt ask a lot of other dead terrorists.

lester on September 27, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Where the hell was this liberal resolve in the war on terror when President Bush was in charge and my unit was getting shot at and mortars dropped on?

Tell me why I shouldn’t hate liberals. You f@cking hypocrites.

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 9:59 PM

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