Breaking: Fox News confirms Obama admin designated Benghazi sacking a terror attack within first 24 hours

posted at 10:35 am on September 27, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Fox News follows up on Eli Lake’s excellent reporting on the intel after the assassination of Ambassador Chris Stevens, confirming from their own sources that the US knew within the first twenty-four hours that the sacking of the Benghazi consulate was no “spontaneous demonstration” that spun out of control.  In fact, they already suspected al-Qaeda of masterminding the planned terrorist attack on the compound days before even admitting that it had been a terror attack at all — and had designated the incident as terrorism in order to pursue one suspect:

U.S. intelligence officials knew within 24 hours of the assault on the U.S. Consulate in Libya that it was a terrorist attack and suspected Al Qaeda-tied elements were involved, sources told Fox News — though it took the administration a week to acknowledge it.

The account conflicts with claims on the Sunday after the attack by U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice that the administration believed the strike was a “spontaneous” event triggered by protests in Egypt over an anti-Islam film.

Two senior U.S. officials said the Obama administration internally labeled the attack terrorism from the first day in order to unlock and mobilize certain resources to respond, and that officials were looking for one specific suspect.

Four days later, the White House sent UN Ambassador Susan Rice to five different Sunday talk shows to claim that the sacking and assassination sprang from a “spontaneous” demonstration.  That no longer can be explained as initial confusion over conflicting reports; it is now clearly a lie told by the White House.  Jennifer Rubin pointed this out at the Washington Post even before the Fox report, and wondered where the national media that screeched at every claim by George W. Bush has suddenly become so comfortable with an administration that flat-out lies to them:

Eli Lake let loose a bombshell yesterday: “Within 24 hours of the 9-11 anniversary attack on the United States consulate in Benghazi, U.S. intelligence agencies had strong indications al Qaeda–affiliated operatives were behind the attack, and had even pinpointed the location of one of those attackers. Three separate U.S. intelligence officials who spoke to The Daily Beast said the early information was enough to show that the attack was planned and the work of al Qaeda affiliates operating in Eastern Libya.”

Obviously the report, if true, suggests that the White House lied to the American people by insisting for over a week that this was a spontaneous attack. It is one thing for the president to be so benighted as to think a video sets off multiple attacks on Sept. 11. It is quite another to send out his advisers, including his own spokesman, to mislead voters. …

And finally, now is the time when we see if reporters and pundits are more than shills for the president. The incompetency, and perhaps mendacity, of thee White House here is severe. The media’s glaring unwillingness to hold the president accountable for his actions can be at least partially remedied if they pursue the story vigorously. Even though Bush in good faith believed his intelligence community’s take on weapons of mass destruction, the left-leaning elites hollered, “Bush lied, people died!” But here we have dead Americans and an cover story in shreds. Why is there not, at a bare minimum, a call for answers? Isn’t this a top-of-the-fold issue? Well, my guess is that pundits and reporters alike in the mainstream media will do their best to soften and downplay the story.

I hope I’m wrong and that the media live up to their journalistic responsibilities, but I see little evidence that an epidemic of fairness is breaking out in the mainstream media. All the more reason, then, for lawmakers and Romney to push for answers. Certainly, we shouldn’t have a president in office who would lie to the American people about a critical national security issue for the sake of his own reelection, right?

Jennifer should start by asking her own colleagues at the Post.  Aside from Glenn Kessler, who began pointing out the politics involved in the cover story today, the newspaper hasn’t done much to challenge Rice’s account or the fallout from its collapse.

Update: Jim DeMint called for a complete investigation into the White House’s “misleading” statements even before Fox broke this news:

Officials claimed the attacks were “spontaneous” and a result of a
 protest that had “spun out of control.”  Ambassador Rice denied it was 
premeditated, stating that the protest was “hijacked by some
 individual clusters of extremists…and then it evolved from there.”

Then, finally, the National Counterterrosim Center Director Matthew 
Olsen stated in a Senate hearing the four Americans were killed “in
 the course of a terror attack” that may have connections to al Qaeda, but that we do not have specific intelligence of “significant advance
 planning”.

Again, this is a different narrative described by Libyan President
 Megariaf, who said the attack was carried out by foreign militants who
 had infiltrated Libya and had been planning these events for months.
 The contradictory and changing stories stemming from the same events 
are worrisome.

It’s far past time to get all the facts. We need a comprehensive
 detailed report rather than waiting for various officials to dribble
 them out one interview at a time.

Senator Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) and I have introduced legislation to require the Obama
 Administration to conduct an official investigation and issue a report
on the September 11-13, 2012 attacks on United States missions in
 Libya, Egypt, and Yemen within 30 days. It also requires the Secretary 
of State to submit recommended changes to security procedures.

It’s time to flush out the liars.  As Glenn Reynolds says — faster, please.


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The Washington Post is getting religion.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2012 at 1:27 PM

The narrative you’re buying/selling is all spin – driven by a (yet again) desperate attempt to vilify Obama’s foreign policy credentials. It’s not criticism or analysis. It’s just another political attack. This is just further residue from the deep conflict the right has suffered through following Bin Laden’s killing.

verbaluce on September 27, 2012 at 12:21 PM

What foreign policy credentials? Ordering drone strikes on terrorists and a Navy Seal team killing of Bin Laden is not foreign policy?

I deny that they lied.

verbaluce on September 27, 2012 at 12:58 PM

So you are a river in Egypt? The evidence of Administration lying is now overwhelming and incontrovertible.

Upstreamer on September 27, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Dante on September 27, 2012 at 1:26 PM

No, spineless. I mean what I say and I say what I mean. Jackwagon.

kingsjester on September 27, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Puncrtuation corrected:

What foreign policy credentials? Ordering drone strikes on terrorists and a Navy Seal team killing of Bin Laden is not foreign policy.

Upstreamer on September 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM

I deny that they lied.

verbaluce on September 27, 2012 at 12:58 PM

That reporter who talked to the Libyan president the other day seemed really surprised at his claims that it was a coordinated terrorist attack.

gwelf on September 27, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Netanyaho to speak at the UN, soon, in moments.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Of course the President knew this the next day! He is incahoots with all of them!! GET THIS LOSER OUT OF OUR WHITE HOUSE!!!

SoonerFn4Lfe on September 27, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Netanyaho to speak at the UN, soon, in moments.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2012 at 1:32 PM

.
Iranians to walk out in 3 … 2 … 1 …

listens2glenn on September 27, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Hope ‘n Change

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Iranians to walk out in 3 … 2 … 1 …

listens2glenn on September 27, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Dear God,

I don’t ask for much but could you pretty, pretty please strategically place someone to trip these @sshats on their way out?

Amen.

StompUDead on September 27, 2012 at 1:41 PM

None of the initial explanations offered by the White House and State Department since the assault on the Benghazi consulate has held up. First the Administration blamed protests provoked by an amateurish anti-Islam clip posted on YouTube. Cue Susan Rice, the U.N. Ambassador and leading candidate for Secretary of State in a second Obama term: “What happened initially was that it was a spontaneous reaction . . . as a consequence of the video, that people gathered outside the embassy and then it grew very violent.”

ted c on September 27, 2012 at 1:43 PM

No one is justifying or trying to justify the attack.

Dante on September 27, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Tell that to an Administration that blamed it on a video, a lie, by the way. Who threw a person under the bus and arranged a thug arrest on a parole violation.

Tell that to an Administration that bent over backwards to “understand” the motives of the “offended” who “allegedly” committed the attack.

Tell that to a President that STILL can’t call it such an attack, even though his administration is now calling it one.

And for bonus points, tell me the official action of the US in response to this. Any military response? A stopping of any funding to the country? An FBI investigation that actually hasn’t investigated the site? I’ll I’ve heard is a sternly worded lecture on how we “won’t accept this”, with no action to back it up.

All the talk and legalisms about what something is called, etc, etc, are bullshiat distractions from noticing that NO ACTION has been taken to address this beyond hollow words and outright lies.

Saltyron on September 27, 2012 at 1:44 PM

The puppet in chief

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2012 at 1:49 PM

You won’t be able to convince this sick sob.

The ambassador “had it coming.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LKKiWUFBXx8

nor on September 27, 2012 at 1:51 PM

listens2glenn on September 27, 2012 at 1:38 PM

.
Dear God,

I don’t ask for much but could you pretty, pretty please strategically place someone to trip these @sshats on their way out?

Amen.

StompUDead on September 27, 2012 at 1:41 PM

.
: )

listens2glenn on September 27, 2012 at 2:03 PM

No one is justifying or trying to justify the attack.

Dante on September 27, 2012 at 12:13 PM

But

1. Cover up on lack of security

2. Denial of the fact that terrorism still flourishes, even if Osama is dead

3. Cover up on all matters Benghazi and Cairo, because it’s a terrible story, dereliction exposed for Obama, at a most inopportune time

America, wake up. Obama is selling the land out to the muzzies.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2012 at 2:05 PM

No, spineless. I mean what I say and I say what I mean. Jackwagon.

kingsjester on September 27, 2012 at 1:28 PM

Not when you are using the incorrect words, you aren’t.

Dante on September 27, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Not when you are using the incorrect words, you aren’t.

Dante on September 27, 2012 at 2:05 PM

You’re pathetic. You’re deperately trying to fend off an inferiority complex and a paranoid personality, which has caused you to become a modern-day isolationist, ala Father Coughlin. Your sole purpose for coming here is to disrupt threads, by any means necessary, in a vain attempt to prove to youself than you’re not just a tin foil hat wearing, raving lunatic, Paulnut. And, when no one buys your poor, deluded, anti-Semitic, anti-American, political b.s., you take it upon yourself to become “The Grammar Nazi”.

Go back on your meds, useless. You need them.

kingsjester on September 27, 2012 at 2:13 PM

If Hillary or her surrogate has lied under oath to a congressional committee we can get her on perjury charges, unless she’s already shredded the relevant docs and pleads ignorance. (Lying to the public is fine if you have a D after your name; the Propaganda Organs will provide cover, spin and distraction.)

We need more info on this “Rescue Mission” that was repelled, too. There be more lies, I reckon.

Memo to Mitt #81: Put the crosshairs on the target, squeeze the trigger and keep it depressed until the magazine is emptied. Then reload and reacquire. Repeat until done.

spiritof61 on September 27, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Implications, you mean. Not inferences.

Dante on September 27, 2012 at 1:26 PM

Either fits in the context of what he’s saying. All of which proves the point, as MadCon said, that you’re a coward because you cannot muster the onions to say what you really want to.

Must drive you crazy.

Terrorist attack!

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 1:00 PM

And we’ve gone full circle now to your proving my point again.

Dante on September 27, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Son, it was a terrorist attack. Cite your proof that it wasn’t or go back to your X-Box.

I could repeat that you really do go on proving our point, but I tire of this “I Know You Are But What Am I Theater.”

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 2:26 PM

kingsjester on September 27, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Well said, KJ.

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 2:27 PM

de Vattel, Law of Nations, Book IV:

§ 113. Immunity of the minister extends to his property.

The independency of a public minister is the true reason of his exemption from the jurisdiction of the country in which he resides. No legal process can be directly issued against him, because he is not subject to the authority of the prince or the magistrates. But it is asked whether that exemption of his person extends indiscriminately to all his property? In order to solve this question, we must consider by what circumstances property may be subjected to, and by what others it may be exempted from, the jurisdiction of a country. In general, whatever lies within the extent of a country, is subject to the authority and jurisdiction of the sovereign (Book I. § 205, and Book II. §§ 83, 84). If any dispute arises concerning effects or goods within or passing through the country, it is to be decided by the judge of the place. In virtue of this dependence, the mode of stoppage or seizure has been established in many countries, for the purpose of compelling a foreigner to repair to the spot where the seizure has been made, and there to answer questions that are to be put to him, though not directly relating to the effects seized. But a foreign minister, as we have already shown, is independent of the jurisdiction of the country; and his personal independence in civil cases would be of little avail, unless it extended to every thing which he finds necessary in order to enable him to live with dignity, and quietly to attend to the discharge of his functions. Besides, whatever he has brought with him, or purchased for his own use as minister, is so connected with his person as to partake of the same fate with it. Since the minister entered the territory on the footing of independence, he could not have it in contemplation to subject his retinue, his baggage, or his necessaries, to the jurisdiction of the country. Every thing, therefore, which directly belongs to his person in the character of a public minister, — every thing which is intended for his use, or which serves for his own maintenance and that of his household, — every thing of that kind, I say, partakes of the minister’s independency, and is absolutely exempt from all jurisdiction in the country. Those things, together with the person to whom they belong, are considered as being out of the country.

To have an Ambassador from another Nation requires that the individual not be under the control of the Nation in which the Embassy has been granted. To those ends the person of the Ambassador, their quarters and necessary workspace for the Embassy must not be under the jurisdiction of the Nation that is hosting them. Thus the Nation that accepts the Embassy also grants that the laws of that Nation are in force for the Ambassador and for the grounds necessary to work the offices of the sovereign so being represented.

That is the logic inherent in wanting to have an Embassy of a foreign power so that two Nations may communicate with each other.

Are there limits to this?

Yes and they pertain to civil cases and to such ministers as cause mischief in their Embassy.

Law of Nations goes through this in detail in preceding paragraphs in Book IV and also touches upon these things in Book II and with regards to warfare in Book III. It is not only the basis for Western understanding of Nations, but is universal to all Nations as they are rooted in Natural Law which is universal to all mankind. The same institutions show up amongst Meso-American Nations unconnected and unknown to the West, as well as deep into history which can be found in such things as the Hittite diplomatic archive. These functions, necessities and offices appear and re-appear whenever Nations appear and must order themselves within and amongst themselves.

ajacksonian on September 27, 2012 at 2:28 PM

kingsjester on September 27, 2012 at 2:13 PM

But your constant use of personal attacks, fallacious smears, and name calling isn’t disruptive? Your insistence on responding to me in threads with off-topic personal attacks isn’t disruptive?

Dante on September 27, 2012 at 2:30 PM

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Thanks, brother.

kingsjester on September 27, 2012 at 2:30 PM

Meghyn Kelly and Bret Bair slicing and dicing the Obama Admin., dot by dot.

Liars in front of your eyes, from Obama, to Hillary, to Rice, to all the trolls.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Dante on September 27, 2012 at 2:30 PM

There goes that whinging that Madison Conservative wrote about, earlier.

kingsjester on September 27, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Actually, whining.

kingsjester on September 27, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Jim DeMint called for a complete investigation into the White House’s “misleading” statements even before Fox broke this news:

I like DeMint but this is just talk. The big name R’s will forget about this in a week and whatever investigation is tasked will stall for months and peter out with an unreported whimper. Maybe with some some horse trading between Rs and Ds.

The media is deeper in the tank then ever before. The Rs are not up for up to the challenge that this committed left wing media poses. After 2012 someone with some charisma needs to organize a credible conservative 3rd party that is comfortable in the minority and comfortable calling out the media regardless of current public opinion. The Rs are weak and this is a very bad time for a weak opposition, especially one with a majority in the house. Sad and corrupt times.

BoxHead1 on September 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Actually, whining.

kingsjester on September 27, 2012 at 2:33 PM

And winging, the facts be damned.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM

There goes that whinging that Madison Conservative wrote about, earlier.

kingsjester on September 27, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Interesting. You constantly engage in personal attacks, name calling, and fallacious smears, and then when it’s matter-of-factly pointed out that you do these things, you call it whining.

Dante on September 27, 2012 at 2:43 PM

whinge /(h)winj/

Verb: Complain persistently and in a peevish or irritating way.

Noun: An act of complaining in such a way.

Synonyms: whine

Yep, Daintie, has got’em both covered.

M240H on September 27, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Well Duh…………………

@Reuters tweeted:
Reuters
U.S. Defense Secy says attack that killed U.S. ambassador to Libya was carried out by terrorist group

6 mins ago from twitter.com by editor

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/251390507568218113

canopfor on September 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Yup…………….

Martin Varley ‏@MVarley72

@Reuters Obama admin KNEW within 24 Hrs it was.OBAMA sent Amb Rice out 2 LIE in FIVE diff Sun shows.Would BUSH get away with that from MSM?

Xavier Ah ‏@SoyelNapo

@Reuters didn’t Al Qaeda claim responsibility?

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/251390507568218113

canopfor on September 27, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Interesting. You constantly engage in personal attacks, name calling, and fallacious smears, and then when it’s matter-of-factly pointed out that you do these things, you call it whining.

Dante on September 27, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Interesting. You constantly engage in hair-spitting debate over points that only God know why you pursue and when commenters ask you for pointed answers to determine what is in fact the focal point and purpose of your assertions, you start acting like a first year psychology student analyzing how people communicate.

Can you not put a comment up that ties your exchanges into some kind of point? It was a terrorist attack. What compels you to dismiss all the facts and claim it’s not.

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Meghyn Kelly and Bret Bair slicing and dicing the Obama Admin., dot by dot.

Liars in front of your eyes, from Obama, to Hillary, to Rice, to all the trolls.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2012 at 2:32 PM

You mean Ailes and Sammon.

verbaluce on September 27, 2012 at 2:54 PM

W

ell Duh…………………

@Reuters tweeted:
Reuters
U.S. Defense Secy says attack that killed U.S. ambassador to Libya was carried out by terrorist group

6 mins ago from twitter.com by editor

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/251390507568218113

canopfor on September 27, 2012 at 2:48 PM

But…but…wait! An attack carried out by terrorists would be a terrorist attack. Can that be?

Yoop on September 27, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2012 at 2:32 PM

You mean Ailes and Sammon.

verbaluce on September 27, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Just for the record, let me get this straight. You see nothing wrong with the way this administration handled the security of Ambassador Stevens and the other Embassy person in Benghazi? You see nothing wrong with their lack of response? And you see nothing wrong with either the lies or the incompetence of not being able for over a week now, to give the American People a clear answer as to what happened there?

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Too bad it’s not an election year…

Seven Percent Solution on September 27, 2012 at 3:07 PM

verbaluce on September 27, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Proving again that your brain is dead.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Obama: “What more do you want me to do about Benghazi? I already told the Muslim Brotherhood ‘I’m sorry’”.

MaiDee on September 27, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Meghyn Kelly and Bret Bair slicing and dicing the Obama Admin., dot by dot.

Liars in front of your eyes, from Obama, to Hillary, to Rice, to all the trolls.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Foxnews has turned into a one sided Romney campaign channel just like msnbc has been an Obama channel the last 4 years. For some reason, it’s hurting Fox rating more because some of their viewers expect them to not be like msnbc. Now, only conservatives are watching fox news nowadays so what Meghan and Bret are doing isn’t helping the Romney campaign at all.

The matter of fact is this: Mitt Romney has to come out as an ACCEPTABLE alternative to Barack Obama in order to win in November. He is trailing (definitely not winning) because the majority of voters aren’t comfortable with him. They don’t like him so he has to show them that he can turn the country around a way Obama cannot in the next 4 years. Just piling on Obama misgiving isn’t going to do it. Mitt Romney has to present his case WITH FATCS (not empty rhetoric). He has to be VERY SPECIFIC on what he will do CONVINCINGLY to be given a shot.
When voters don’t like you or biased against you, you have to win them over by showing superior competency. Paul Ryan has a plan but he is not in charge and Romney does not necessary agree with him. Mitt Romney is all over the place (especially on healthcare and Medicare) and voters just see him as a rich guy that will say ANYTHING to win…

As I keep saying, the debate will present him an opportunity to prove to the majority of voters that he can do better than Obama in the next 4 years…not by piling on Obama failures but showing his own SPECIFICS on how he will get it done.

The Benghazi debacle is white noise at best for the voters that will decide the election. Foxnews should start making Romney case point by point on what he will do as president. That’s what Americans want to hear.

Make a CLEAR and PRECISE case for Mitt Romney please

jules on September 27, 2012 at 4:16 PM

To add to my point: While we are wasting time in trying to start another watergate, the lme stream media keeps on making a case for Obama with stories like this:
New data shows Obama may be a job creator, after all

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/data-shows-obama-may-job-162700945.html

It’s time to get back to the Economy and for Romney to be more specifics and CONVINCING…..

jules on September 27, 2012 at 4:19 PM

Let’s see them pull this lying and misdirection in the face of a Congressional inquiry. Or try to hide behind claims of “an ongoing investigation” or “classified documents.”

It’s very foolish to think they can keep this covered up for very long. I can only presume they were just hoping to keep a lid on it up until the election.

tom on September 27, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Just for the record, let me get this straight. You see nothing wrong with the way this administration handled the security of Ambassador Stevens and the other Embassy person in Benghazi? You see nothing wrong with their lack of response? And you see nothing wrong with either the lies or the incompetence of not being able for over a week now, to give the American People a clear answer as to what happened there?

hawkdriver on September 27, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Why would verbulace care about any of those things? As long as his ideological position gets pushed forward, he could care less if we lived under a totalitarian dictator. See, for instance, the left’s new found hatred of the freedom of speech. Anything for the state!!

Why even try to have a rational, honest conversation with someone who is operating from that perspective. he will never be honest or rational in anything he says or argues. Such actions don’t push his agenda forward. Facts mean nothing to him. There is no objective truth, only what the state puts forth.

Monkeytoe on September 27, 2012 at 4:49 PM

Well I’d say the public has been conditioned pretty well. Now they are calling for actions to be labeled terrorist attacks. The State couldn’t be happier.

Dante on September 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM

Yes, you would say that. And without having the sense to be ashamed of it afterward.

Why would you not label a terrorist attack as a terrorist attack?

tom on September 27, 2012 at 4:51 PM

I have to say, while it’s nice to get confirmation that they knew they were lying when they lied, it really wasn’t even necessary. It was so obvious that the attack was not caused by that stupid video that it was not really possible to believe the White House was just honestly mistaken.

They were completely wasting their time with the flimsy excuse of a spontaneous attack because of a Youtube video.

tom on September 27, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Most transparent administration EVAH!!!

mel23059 on September 27, 2012 at 4:59 PM

I’ve wondered why Hillary Clinton was not the State Department official on the Sunday talk shows. Since the government knew within 24 hours that it was a terror attack, could it be that she refused to lie to the public perhaps because of her own presidential plans or perhaps because she refused to flat out lie to the American public. I would like to believe the latter, but the former seems more logical.

polarglen on September 27, 2012 at 5:07 PM

I’ve wondered why Hillary Clinton was not the State Department official on the Sunday talk shows. Since the government knew within 24 hours that it was a terror attack, could it be that she refused to lie to the public perhaps because of her own presidential plans or perhaps because she refused to flat out lie to the American public. I would like to believe the latter, but the former seems more logical.

polarglen on September 27, 2012 at 5:07 PM

Yep. Possible.

slickwillie2001 on September 27, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Dereliction of duty. Willing suspension of disbelief.

SparkPlug on September 27, 2012 at 5:40 PM

A caller on Kilmeade and Friends made reference to this story this morning. I wonder if new details are about to emerge.

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/09/12/libya-rescue-squad-ran-into-fierce-accurate-ambush/

Philly on September 27, 2012 at 5:42 PM

A caller on Kilmeade and Friends made reference to this story this morning. I wonder if new details are about to emerge.

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/09/12/libya-rescue-squad-ran-into-fierce-accurate-ambush/

Philly on September 27, 2012 at 5:42 PM

Don’t hold your breath.. The media is in full cover-up mode…

sandee on September 27, 2012 at 5:45 PM

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/data-shows-obama-may-job-162700945.html

It’s time to get back to the Economy and for Romney to be more specifics and CONVINCING…..

jules on September 27, 2012 at 4:19 PM

And idiots prove once more they can’t even understand the numbers. Not that its news by now.

Moron, can you tell us how the GDP number has changed from 1.7% to 1.3%, this is a number that is what, 5-6 months old by now? And changed to the tune of roughly 25% less than originally reported? That’s a HUGE under-reporting and in any non-government company those “reporting” such discrepancies would have been fired long ago. Or charged by IRS for and fined/jailed.

Same with jobs numbers, everyone but the stupidest idiots out there did not expect fudged numbers so near the election date. And they WILL BE adjusted to higher numbers thereafter, just like they were re-adjusted to higher numbers at some later date for months on now. And if that doesn’t work the “workforce number” will be fudged down once more to re-adjust the unemployment number down. Only in a rabid liberal’s mind on some serious glue sniffing binge do the numbers look good.

riddick on September 27, 2012 at 6:03 PM

That’s true, Sandee. Now we have a Fox News alert that the Tripoli embassy is being evacuated. What the hell took Obama so long? I mean, just because the FBI agents they sent (har) to investigate can’t make it to Benghazi because it is too unsafe.

These incompetent White House liars have got to go.

Philly on September 27, 2012 at 6:04 PM

d1carter
ted c
others interested in the Reuters Benghazi evacuation report

The Reuters story, was filed Wednesday, September 12, from Benghazi (!!), Libya, by a Reuters Middle East stringer, Hadeel Al Shalchi (female, Canadian, based in Tripoli, Libya). Neither Reuters nor Shalchi have followed up on this story at all, that I can find. Shalchi, however, is a reasonably experienced journalist and her story follows the rules for an eye-witness account with secondary corroboration. Anyone’s guess whether the witnesses are reliable, but the account of the evacuation– the chaos, lack of preparedness, the improvisation, the desperation– certainly rings true.

From the first-hand account of the rescue– the details of the Marine’s death and another’s injury, the exact number of evacuees, the composition of the rescue team and evacuation convoy– the story pretty clearly is based on the eye-witness account of Captain Fathi al-Obeidi, who headed up a special operations unit known as the Libyan Shield Brigade, and who was ordered by Libyan authorities to meet up with the 8-man Marine squad at Benghazi airport, and take them to the back-up location to which 37 U.S./Libyan diplomatic personnel had fled after the consulate had come under attack. The rescue mission was a success, although a Marine was killed (the details of his death add an authentic note to the account), 2 other Marines and several diplomatic personnel were injured (and maybe 2 others killed) during the rescue:

Eventually dozens more vehicles were despatched from pro-government militia brigades and, with the sun rising, the convoy headed back to the airport where an aircraft flew a first group of U.S. personnel out to the Libyan capital.

Shalchi’s– or, say, Captain al-Obeidi’s– story is corroborated (n professional journalistic fashion) by a secondary source, Libyan Deputy Interior Minister Wanis al-Sharif:

Speaking of the rescue mission, he said: “A team of commandos arrived by air and went to a farm which we thought was a secret location. Once they got there, they came under heavy fire from heavy machineguns, rocket-propelled grenades and automatic rifles, which resulted in the death of two others.”

He estimated that a dozen or more Americans were hurt.

If, as Anderson Cooper has reported, the U.S. effectively is shut out of Benghazi and a high al-Qaeda official is living there (al-Qaeda now presumably running the show), that’s probably the last we’ll hear of Captain al-Obeidi unless he and the Libyan Shield Brigade high-tailed it out of Benghazi after seeing off the Americans at the airport. U.S. diplomatic personnel obviously have been sequestered by the State Department, and likely the Marines (f there were Marines) shunted off to some base and told to shut up. We will not the get the follow up to this story until after the election.

Might be worth a tweet to Ms. Shalchi, however, to see if she knows any more.

de rigueur on September 27, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Might be worth a tweet to Ms. Shalchi, however, to see if she knows any more.

de rigueur on September 27, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Interest in the Reuters article reporter, Hadeel Al Shalchi, certainly shot up after she filed that report.

de rigueur on September 27, 2012 at 6:51 PM

It seems to me that all the apparent confusion within the administration about this issue is easily explained: Valerie Jarrett has been on vacation and she hasn’t told anyone what to do.

Special Forces Grunt on September 27, 2012 at 7:24 PM

de rigueur on September 27, 2012 at 6:51 PM

I tweeted her to see if she will respond…she is in Canada right now on time off…

d1carter on September 27, 2012 at 8:18 PM

The spin machine is hard at work..top story on Yahoo New now:

Asked about the evolving administration line, the anonymous source said that “confusion and misinformation always helps an operational response.”

um…right. It’s the Pee Wee Herman defense about blaming the video for a known terrorist attack: I meant to do that.

dont taze me bro on September 27, 2012 at 8:49 PM

I tweeted her to see if she will respond…she is in Canada right now on time off…

d1carter on September 27, 2012 at 8:18 PM

If the rumor/reports about the U.S. pulling out of Tripoli now are true, this would be a good time to get back to Ottawa. Hope you hear something from her. It occurs to me that, being a journalist, she’ll pretty guarded, but even more so in this case. An innocent query like “Do you know what happened to Captain al-Obeidi after the rescue” would be just the kind of thing al-Qaeda would ask.

de rigueur on September 27, 2012 at 8:56 PM

de rigueur on September 27, 2012 at 8:56 PM

BTW, she is a staff writer for Reuters obviously covering the middle east stationed at Tripoli.

d1carter on September 27, 2012 at 9:08 PM

d1carter on September 27, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Also, she’s big buds with the subway spray painter…

d1carter on September 27, 2012 at 9:31 PM

It’s very interesting to go back and look at the graphic in this old post:

The Welcome Doormat
posted at 1:35 pm on March 11, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

ITguy on September 27, 2012 at 10:21 PM

Here’s what I have learned after following this thing since it happened.
Stevens was in Benghazi possibly to retrieve weapons he had given or sold to the mb or freedom fighters when they were all after quackdaffi.
Fast forward past quackdaffis death and you have al queada/mb and other bad guys taking over the country.Stevens is possibly tasked to get back the weapons.He knows the ocuntry loves the people hes perfect for the job win or lose.This explains why he turns down additional security three days before the attack.
He knows where the weapons were buried and he’s on the way to get them back in to safe hands and away from terror types.The administrations arab spring has backfired worse than anyone ever dreamed and getting the weapons back absolves the US of any involvement.
Backfires. The weapons are used on Stevens and his three CIA guys with him.They all die.
IN the aftermath axelrod takes over since this is a political problem nothing else as far as the regime is concerned.They hate America lets face it.
Axel sends out zero and rice who is black if you didn’t notice to lie their asses off.Axel figures its a five day story, they are in and out in five days and can go back to the 47% story. The real story for them.
Story lasts longer. People are outraged. The deck of cards may be folding in on them.
They scramble. Say it was terrorist. Was pre=planned. Now lets stop talking about it and get back to 47%.
Does not work. They get caught lying. Pinocchio syndrome sets in. It gets worse.
Now the world wants to know what Stevens was doing there. They can’t answer. No good fables that seem to work.
Big question still remains unanswered who gave Stevens up? Was it terror types in Libya? Or was it the regime? Or perhaps CIA on behalf of the regime? This one will never be brought to light of day ever.

rodguy911 on September 27, 2012 at 10:27 PM

The CNN story that used Mr Steven’s journal said that he was concerned about security in Benghazi. Why would he go there on 9-11 ? Did someone order him to go there to meet with someone ? Who would be able to order a diplomat to go somewhere even if the security situation was considered troublesome? Would that be SoS Clinton? Did she get some juicy tidbit of information that she thought was so important that she sent Ambassador Stevens there?

Just a thought that has been nagging me since the CNN story about the journal and his worries about security.

journeyintothewhirlwind on September 27, 2012 at 11:08 PM

The other thought – how much freedom did Ambassador Stevens have to move around the country? Did he have to notify someone in the Libyan government of his movements?

That thought came to mind because of the difficulty we seem to be having getting an FBI team to the site. If part of the 15 day delay is due to needing permission to move about the country, then did this apply to the ambassador also?

journeyintothewhirlwind on September 27, 2012 at 11:23 PM

PEOPLE DIED, OBAMA LIED

Molonlabe2004 on September 28, 2012 at 11:12 AM

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