Obama’s green-jobs argument still bearing little-to-no resemblance to reality

posted at 4:01 pm on September 25, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

In an unaired bit of his recent 60 Minutes interview, President Obama continued to defend his at-this-point-entirely-indefensible policies aimed at forcibly remaking America’s economy into the green utopia of environmentalists’ most romantical visions.

Earth to President Obama: Those wind-energy jobs in Iowa you’re so dearly fond of touting, are imaginary. Yes, there certainly are people who currently hold employment in the wind-energy industry in this country, but the mere existence of jobs in no way means that these are productive, profitable jobs that contribute to private-sector economic growth. The jobs he’s referring to are, in fact, a drain on our economy: The federal government subsidizes the heck out of the wind industry, which means that all of these supposedly fabulous jobs come at the opportunity cost of all those dollars we’re pouring into the industry being spent productively elsewhere.

Notice how the wind industry is so wildly desperate to keep the wind production tax credit around? That would be because they know that their businesses cannot survive without it — a.k.a., wind energy is not capable of standing up to the test of free-market competition. A.k.a., imaginary. Imaginary jobs do not spur growth, and quixotically bankrupting ourselves with public “investments” in the quest to fulfill our own green prophecies is certainly not going to help us compete in the global economic arena.


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Alternate thread title: Obama continues to choose the blue pill

Eschelon on September 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Erika, I’m very sorry to have to tell you this, but you have disqualified yourself from working in the Obama regime. You understand economics too well. Plus, you’re probably not a tax cheat.

jwolf on September 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM

well, that goes with the rest of the liberal stance on any issue.

search4truth on September 25, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Anus apertures abound…

PatriotRider on September 25, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Do any of his policies resemble reality?

Waggoner on September 25, 2012 at 4:05 PM

The thing about imaginary jobs is that they are so plentiful. You can imagine as many as you want. They can be as high-paying as you want. And they can do as much to save the environment as you want.

Its Skittles and rainbows all the way down.

Lily on September 25, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Do any of his policies resemble reality?

Waggoner on September 25, 2012 at 4:05 PM

That would depend entirely on “HOW” you define reality.

SWalker on September 25, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Everytime I see another brilliant decision made by this worthless fool, I can’t believe he’s anywhere NEAR Romney in the polls. It has to be pure unadulterated hatred of Conservatives in general, because he’s certainly not offering anything valuable to any of his supporters. Even to those on the dole, because the gravy train is going to crash and burn with Captain Solar/Wind Energy behind the wheel.

BettyRuth on September 25, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Everytime I see another brilliant decision made by this worthless fool, I can’t believe he’s anywhere NEAR Romney in the polls. It has to be pure unadulterated hatred of Conservatives in general, because he’s certainly not offering anything valuable to any of his supporters. Even to those on the dole, because the gravy train is going to crash and burn with Captain Solar/Wind Energy behind the wheel.

BettyRuth on September 25, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Na, it isn’t hatred of Conservatives (at least not with the general public), it’s predicated on Fifth Column Treasonous Media propaganda.

SWalker on September 25, 2012 at 4:13 PM

BettyRuth on September 25, 2012 at 4:09 PM

it won’t be close…mum’s the word. The media wouldn’t be spinning so hard if they didn’t need to.

DanMan on September 25, 2012 at 4:13 PM

BettyRuth on September 25, 2012 at 4:09 PM

it won’t be close…mum’s the word. The media wouldn’t be spinning so hard if they didn’t need to.

DanMan on September 25, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Come Nov. 7th I predict that the Fifth Column Treasonous Media will be spinning so hard and fast that friction will cause them to burst into flames…

SWalker on September 25, 2012 at 4:15 PM

BettyRuth on September 25, 2012 at 4:09 PM

I hate to disappoint you but the gravy train is going to crash and burn regardless of who is behind the wheel. It is only a matter of how badly we crater.

chemman on September 25, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Everytime I see another brilliant decision made by this worthless fool, I can’t believe he’s anywhere NEAR Romney in the polls.

BettyRuth on September 25, 2012 at 4:09 PM

BettyRuth, Barfy is nowhere near Romney in the polls. The media is lying to us to prop Barfy up (shocker).

There’s a website that calculates where the real numbers are by subtracting the media bias. It’s worth a look so you can see where they realisticly stand.

DON’T BELIEVE THOSE FRIGGEN POLLS THE LSM TROT OUT!!!

NapaConservative on September 25, 2012 at 4:22 PM

I do believe that unicorns flatualate imaginary jobs. So it is only logical that Obama and his henchmen believe so heavily in imaginary jobs. It’s all a ruse to increase the number of unicorns in existence.

I’m so glad that this Administration doesn’t listen to all you Hot Gassians. They would then become too corrupted by reality and then where would all the unicorns be?

NOMOBO on September 25, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Do any of his policies resemble reality?

Waggoner on September 25, 2012 at 4:05 PM

…for JugEars…there’s a clarity… when you’re doing CHOOM all the time!

KOOLAID2 on September 25, 2012 at 4:28 PM

I can’t believe he’s anywhere NEAR Romney in the polls.

BettyRuth on September 25, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Betty, not to worry. I stand firm with my prediction that Romney will win in a landslie (54+%)….if it’s a fair election. The problem is that that is a big if.

NOMOBO on September 25, 2012 at 4:30 PM

Hussein’s green jobs farce………..how many billion dollars can we spend creating a million dollars worth of energy.

antipc on September 25, 2012 at 4:31 PM

.how many billion dollars can we spend creating a million dollars worth of energy.

antipc on September 25, 2012 at 4:31 PM

I’ll let you know once we have created a million dollars worth of energy…

SWalker on September 25, 2012 at 4:35 PM

Newsflash:

Germany and China have drastically cut back on their subsidization of Wind and Solar energy, because their economies can no longer support the drain. We won’t be “ceding” anything to them by wisely recognizing the failure of those programs to enhance an anemic economy.

Freelancer on September 25, 2012 at 4:35 PM

Between his flapping lips, his jug ears and his gas bag pronouncements, Obama is a wind energy industry until himself.

natasha333 on September 25, 2012 at 4:36 PM

I dunno, I sorta like wind energy. I use it to evacuate the living room whenever I want to take control of the television set.

Limerick on September 25, 2012 at 4:39 PM

A huge number of wind energy projects are on hold until after the election. If Obama loses, the projects go away. That would not be the case if they could stand on their own merits.

LASue on September 25, 2012 at 4:41 PM

NONE of Obama’s arguments bear any semblance to reality.

Resist We Much on September 25, 2012 at 4:48 PM

I’m not going to cede those jobs to places like China and Germany who are making those investments.

And regretting them.

Socratease on September 25, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Scroooom that green bunker oil the Navy is using…put them back in sails.

Limerick on September 25, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Do any of his policies resemble reality?

Waggoner on September 25, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Only if you define “reality” as the opposite of what Obama promised.

Here’s an article showing how health insurance premiums have gone up, on average, more than $2,300 since 2009.

http://news.investors.com/092412-626848-health-premiums-up-3065-obama-vowed-2500-cut.aspx

In his 2008 debates with John McCain, Obama promised that American families would see a reduction in their health insurance premiums of about $2,500 by the end of his first term, if he were elected.

Well here we are at the end of Obama’s first term and not only have premiums not gone down by $2,500, they’ve gone up by more than $2,300 (more than they went up in the previous 4 years under Bush).

And of course, all health insurance industry analysts are warning that premiums will rise substantially higher in 2014, when Obamacare’s most costly provisions (e.g., guaranteed issue, no lifetime spending caps, etc.) go into effect.

AZCoyote on September 25, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Some people ask how much money goods or labor are worth. I like to ask how much goods or labor your money is worth. When you spend money on projects like wind power that produce less energy than if you had spent it on coal or natural gas, when you subsidize an electric car that gives you less miles per dollar than a cheaper gasoline one, you devalue your money. Everybody’s money. Including the money in the bank you’ve been saving all your life for retirement, or a vacation, or sending your kids to college, or to invest in a new business. When Obama devalues your money to buy votes for himself or to prop up his delusions of how the world should work, he’s stealing from all of us to do it.

Socratease on September 25, 2012 at 4:59 PM

fabulous jobs

The word you were trying to spell there was “fabulist”

CapnObvious on September 25, 2012 at 4:59 PM

Everytime I see another brilliant decision made by this worthless fool, I can’t believe he’s anywhere NEAR Romney in the polls. It has to be pure unadulterated hatred of Conservatives

Two or three generations of deliberate brainwashing by liberals in media and education, and conservatives stood by and let it happen.

Socratease on September 25, 2012 at 5:06 PM

A huge number of wind energy projects are on hold until after the election. If Obama loses, the projects go away. That would not be the case if they could stand on their own merits.

I have an idea instead of whizzing on each other over wind energy, green jobs etc. and listening to the sock puppet in the White House.

We ask a few questions. People need a stable unbroken source of electricity to run their businesses and their homes. Now the parameters are You must produce a steady, stable electrical environment on the grid at all times. First question Does or will wind power on its own produce a stable power supply? Yes or No ? If Yes How does it do that when the wind is so unpredictable? If No then what takes the winds place when the wind energy lags? If No then why put something into the equation that cannot provide steady. stable power?

I understand the desire for wind power, but desire is being trumped by technical reality at this time.

stormridercx4 on September 25, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Talk about completely clueless. Also, he appears exhausted, drawn and wooden. No energy.

dogsoldier on September 25, 2012 at 6:00 PM

I’ve got some wind for the idiot-in-chief.

ultracon on September 25, 2012 at 6:01 PM

Same BS, different year

Schadenfreude on September 25, 2012 at 6:02 PM

the only wind power that fool is harnessing is in the breezeway between his jug ears

burserker on September 25, 2012 at 6:10 PM

opportunity cost

Has a certain blogress been running a business, hmmmm?

I love it.

El Salsero on September 25, 2012 at 6:19 PM

Two or three generations of deliberate brainwashing by liberals in media and education, and conservatives stood by and let it happen

Socratease on September 25, 2012 at 5:06 PM

I’m sorry, but what exactly did you expect conservatives to do as the media, et al brainwashed the masses? We have the biggest voice we’ve ever had, NOW. Please, I’m serious- elaborate.

BettyRuth on September 25, 2012 at 6:35 PM

I dunno, I sorta like wind energy. I use it to evacuate the living room whenever I want to take control of the television set.

Limerick on September 25, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Are you my older brother??

Sasha List on September 25, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Tens of thousands of job created, and several of them in this country.

STL_Vet on September 25, 2012 at 7:03 PM