Obama: “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”

posted at 2:01 pm on September 25, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

President Obama addressed the General Assembly of the United Nations in New York on Tuesday morning, and while there were a few moments when he at least talked a good game on free speech, there were also moments that left much to be desired on that same front and on the real nature of the root causes of unrest in the Middle East.

Here are some key excerpts (you can read the full prepared remarks here):

But the attacks of the last two weeks are not simply an assault on America. They are also an assault on the very ideals upon which the United Nations was founded – the notion that people can resolve their differences peacefully; that diplomacy can take the place of war; and that in an interdependent world, all of us have a stake in working towards greater opportunity and security for our citizens.

If we are serious about upholding these ideals, it will not be enough to put more guards in front of an Embassy; or to put out statements of regret, and wait for the outrage to pass. If we are serious about those ideals, we must speak honestly about the deeper causes of this crisis. Because we face a choice between the forces that would drive us apart, and the hopes we hold in common.

Today, we must affirm that our future will be determined by people like Chris Stevens, and not by his killers. Today, we must declare that this violence and intolerance has no place among our United Nations.

So far, not bad. But then, for some reason, the president felt the need to bring in, criticize, and apologize for the YouTube video that we’re to believe was the catalyst that sparked these inexcusable recent events — even though, really, that video is not what any of this is or should be about at all, and I’m not really sure why it’s something the president feels the continual need to explain away.

That is what we saw play out the last two weeks, as a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world. I have made it clear that the United States government had nothing to do with this video, and I believe its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity. It is an insult not only to Muslims, but to America as well – for as the city outside these walls makes clear, we are a country that has welcomed people of every race and religion. We are home to Muslims who worship across our country. We not only respect the freedom of religion – we have laws that protect individuals from being harmed because of how they look or what they believe. We understand why people take offense to this video because millions of our citizens are among them.

I know there are some who ask why we don’t just ban such a video. The answer is enshrined in our laws: our Constitution protects the right to practice free speech. Here in the United States, countless publications provoke offense. Like me, the majority of Americans are Christian, and yet we do not ban blasphemy against our most sacred beliefs. Moreover, as President of our country, and Commander-in-Chief of our military, I accept that people are going to call me awful things every day, and I will always defend their right to do so. Americans have fought and died around the globe to protect the right of all people to express their views – even views that we disagree with.

Again, not a bad rundown of our free-speech values, but if we believe that all people have a right to express their views, even ones with which we disagree, why are we still talking about this dumb video? The video is not the point. The Obama administration has already had to revise their original version of the chaos in Libya and labeled it as the terrorism that it was, but President Obama conspicuously failed to mention terrorism in relation to Libya in his speech. Why do I feel like this was a speech designed to sound so-so on promoting our American values but simultaneously pander to the people who would criticize us for them? There was an opportunity for a real display of strength and courage here in the wake of all of this unacceptable violence, and the president declined to take it.

Here’s a reaction from former UN Ambassador John Bolton:

 


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Future should not belong to ClassicCon (but he/she should still be tolerated).

lester on September 25, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Ironically, the fact that you’re tolerated is the only reason you’re able to continue on this blog. If I were in charge, your sorry a@@ would’ve been banned eons ago.

NapaConservative on September 25, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Organizations are not citizens. And obviously we disagree on right to basic healthcare.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 3:25 PM

You have a right to the fruits of someone elses labor?

gwelf on September 25, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Organizations are not citizens. And obviously we disagree on right to basic healthcare.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 3:25 PM

So if I exercise my right of free association I am absolved of my rights as an individual and the group I associate with doesn’t have any rights to free speech or property?

gwelf on September 25, 2012 at 3:29 PM

We just needs us some more of that “Smart Diplomacy” from “The Smartest Man in the World”, who is too damned busy going on ‘The View’ rather than meet with mid-east leaders and establish one-on-one relationships.

GarandFan on September 25, 2012 at 3:29 PM

I think that these liberal trolls are becoming overly annoying… Some say but it is good to have a good debate… The issue is that we are not having a good debate… these fools are here to demoralize us, insult us, and defend a communist called Obama… I think the site would be much better without them…

mnjg on September 25, 2012 at 3:25 PM

I couldn’t agree with you more. They are inapable of understanding anything but State nurturing and authority. There is something wrong with them. You can’t educate them and you can’t emarrass them. To “debate” them is to justify their presence on HotAir. Theirs is to take over a thread, obfuscate its message and make the thread about themselves – directing all attention towards them.

Now, I AM demoralized – but not because of their presence here – but because of their very existence in our country.

OhEssYouCowboys on September 25, 2012 at 3:30 PM

― Alexis de Tocqueville

OhEssYouCowboys on September 25, 2012 at 3:22 PM

“Alexis de Tocqueville occupied his mind, as all great thinkers are prone to do, with abstractions. In the concrete, only a minority of civilizations have ever been democratic; the average age of the great civilizations (most of them not democratic) has been greater than 200 years; and almost no civilization in the history of man, including the few democracies, has collapsed because it voted itself largess. As for the American Republic, it’s lost when the Americans let it go.

– Axe de Axefellow

Axe on September 25, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Sigh -

“incapable”

“embarrass”

OhEssYouCowboys on September 25, 2012 at 3:31 PM

It could be argued that in this setting he didn’t have the option not to address the video and it’s content – and he did a better job in this instance having that concern fall in line behind a defense of free speech. And he is delivering both those messages to the Arab world – this wasn’t one message for the West and one for the Middle East.

verbaluce on September 25, 2012 at 3:26 PM

I agree this is his best speech so far on the subject (though that’s an extremely low bar). I don’t think the west needs lecturing to on this issue. We aren’t the ones killing people and rioting.

gwelf on September 25, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Axe on September 25, 2012 at 3:31 PM


“We can state with conviction, therefore, that a man’s support for absolute government is in direct proportion to the contempt he feels for his country.”

― Alexis de Tocqueville

OhEssYouCowboys on September 25, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Here is the speech Hussein I should have given.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GCXHPKhRCVg

Annar on September 25, 2012 at 3:33 PM

It stops with medical care which has no relation to an actual disease. Contraception doesn’t cure pregnancy. It’s not a disease. If you wish to avoid it, pay for contraception or abortion yourself.

Rocks on September 25, 2012 at 3:22 PM

At one point, I was confused about this as well. There’s a lot more to it than birth control. A study with breakdown of why women use the pill”

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/Beyond-Birth-Control.pdf

For many women, It is absolutely a medical necessity.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Organizations are not citizens. And obviously we disagree on right to basic healthcare.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Madcon didn’t say healthcare, he said health insurance.

Here’s your sign. Idiot.

D-fusit on September 25, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Axe on September 25, 2012 at 3:31 PM

“What we will not let go, they cannot take from us.” Julius Caesar.

thatsafactjack on September 25, 2012 at 3:34 PM

“Tee hee…”

Akzed on September 25, 2012 at 3:35 PM

So that’s about 8% of the population maybe.

CorporatePiggy on September 25, 2012 at 2:30 PM

I hope we are enough.

garnkikaloid on September 25, 2012 at 3:35 PM

“What we will not let go, they cannot take from us.” Julius Caesar.

thatsafactjack on September 25, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Remember that, when your taxes go up, because the cattle have voted in a Statist who will take care of them, for as long as you keep paying for it.

Remember that, when your own government keeps telling you what you will do, what you will purchase, what you will pay and what you will obey.

OhEssYouCowboys on September 25, 2012 at 3:37 PM

For many women, It is absolutely a medical necessity.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 3:34 PM

This still doesn’t explain why your employer or anyone else is responsible from a legal/governmental perspective for paying for it. Why are you responsible for feeding, clothing, and housing yourself? Aren’t food and shelter more basic than health “insurance”?

gwelf on September 25, 2012 at 3:38 PM

I see that the Axelhive has put out the bat signal to do spin and cleanup duty after this one.
Better bring Dramamine boys.
Gonna be hard to get happy cleaning up this mess.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on September 25, 2012 at 3:38 PM

lester on September 25, 2012 at 3:25 PM

This folks, is called ‘hijacking the thread’ away from the issue at hand.

Namely, Obozo making a very interesting statement, especially if you consider the corollary to said statement… let’s see…

Statement: “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”

Corollary: “The future must belong to those who respect Islam.

Defend that, trolls.

CPT. Charles on September 25, 2012 at 3:38 PM

lester on September 25, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Which is why the federal government shouldn’t be involved in determining “free practice thereof.” When it comes to health insurance let each individual decide what is best them and buy it on an open market.

chemman on September 25, 2012 at 3:39 PM

Now, I AM demoralized – but not because of their presence here – but because of their very existence in our country.

OhEssYouCowboys on September 25, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Do not be demoralized… Our goal is to win this elections and show the parasites that we are still in control… VOTE…

mnjg on September 25, 2012 at 3:40 PM

OhEssYouCowboys on September 25, 2012 at 3:37 PM

When you’re more relaxed, and you’ve got some time, think about the quote, and what it really means.

Meanwhile, I’m not your enemy.

thatsafactjack on September 25, 2012 at 3:40 PM

It could be argued that in this setting he didn’t have the option not to address the video and it’s content – and he did a better job in this instance having that concern fall in line behind a defense of free speech. And he is delivering both those messages to the Arab world – this wasn’t one message for the West and one for the Middle East.

verbaluce on September 25, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Unfortunately, the message will not sink in the Muslim world. They simply do not care how we view free speech. Not that they do not UNDERSTAND how we view free speech, but that they do not care how we view it. Huge difference.
Presently, the rumor of blasphamy laws via the UN supports their efforts to supercede our laws.

Jabberwock on September 25, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Well I know one thing:

The future does not belong to Marxist radicals!

redguy on September 25, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Guess whose team 0bama is playing for?
(Hint: it ain’t ours.)

Yephora on September 25, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Organizations are not citizens. And obviously we disagree on right to basic healthcare.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Funny how the rights you children believe exist are the same responsibilities that parents typically provided? You know as well as I do that you will then manufacture a right to basic internet, cell phone, weed, and iPads next.

And why just “basic” healthcare? Why are you such a heartless conservative that only the advantaged should get more than “basic” healthcare? I want my wife to get a free tit job you greedy douche!

ClassicCon on September 25, 2012 at 3:41 PM

For many women, It is absolutely a medical necessity.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 3:34 PM

How can it be a medical necessity if women existed without it until the mid sixties?

chemman on September 25, 2012 at 3:42 PM

It stops when it interferes with the rights of citizens. Health insurance is not a right. Get that through your head.

MadisonConservative on September 25, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Organizations are not citizens. And obviously we disagree on right to basic healthcare.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 3:25 PM
——-
Got in a car accident? Well DUH of COURSE you should be kept alive at all costs come on in to emerg!
Got diabetes? F you go figure out how to afford to pay for your own care
If only there was a way to get diabetes from a car accident.

Dave Rywall on September 25, 2012 at 3:42 PM

This folks, is called ‘hijacking the thread’ away from the issue at hand.

Namely, Obozo making a very interesting statement, especially if you consider the corollary to said statement… let’s see…

Statement: “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”

Corollary: “The future must belong to those who respect Islam.”

Defend that, trolls.

CPT. Charles on September 25, 2012 at 3:38 PM

That’s just about it. And, of course, this means the suppression of freedom of speech and freedom of religion.

America is headed towards darkness … towards tyranny.

And it’s because of the cattle who can’t see the freight train coming down the track – because they’ve had their tickets paid for by the State.

OhEssYouCowboys on September 25, 2012 at 3:42 PM

First gay Muslim president. PBUH.

Philly on September 25, 2012 at 3:42 PM

I agree this is his best speech so far on the subject (though that’s an extremely low bar). I don’t think the west needs lecturing to on this issue. We aren’t the ones killing people and rioting.

gwelf on September 25, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Well I think he’s ‘speaking to’ rather than ‘lecturing’.
Perhaps John Bolton can go over to Egypt and Libya and try the lecturing route – but his approach/philosophy never did anything but appease some isolationist xenophobes.

verbaluce on September 25, 2012 at 3:43 PM

For many women, It is absolutely a medical necessity. lester on September 25, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Then they should be glad that it is readily available and cheap in these parts.

In CA marijuana’s a “medical necessity.”

Akzed on September 25, 2012 at 3:44 PM

I’ve never believed the empty suit is a muslim but… either he’s to stupid to realize no one but a muslim would say this or he is one.

aniptofar on September 25, 2012 at 2:05 PM

The only other option TOTUS is a Muslim.

Dasher on September 25, 2012 at 3:44 PM

I hate Auto Refresh on Hot Air.

One more post eaten by it.

Steveangell on September 25, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Right, but that’s not the headline Erika chose now is it. He also says that Muslims need to show tolerance to Jews and Christians as well. I’m no fan of Obama, but to act like he’s somehow actively trying to push blasphemy law, as suggested by Erika, is silly and makes real criticism of Obama, such as he didn’t prepare the embassy and consulates for attacks, he doesn’t understand radical islam, etc, less potent. Could he have come out more forceful on free speech? Yes. Should he? Yes. But this, like nearly every headline she writes, is meant to spark outrageous outrage that we mock to Left for doing all the time.

cpaulus on September 25, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Google the headline sentence, including the quotes.

Then come back and tell us how many other sites have used EXACTLY the same sentence to begin their blog on the subject. There is a LOT of outrage regarding this sentence beyond anything Erika wrote.

Perhaps Obama should have said it this way: “Keep up this sh*t and we will reset your civilization to 1600 AD and reboot you.”

Yoop on September 25, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Meanwhile, I’m not your enemy.

thatsafactjack on September 25, 2012 at 3:40 PM

No, no no! I don’t think that at all. We’re just looking at things from different perspectives. I have no faith in the American voters – the same filth who lodged that malignancy in the Oval Office.

That wasn’t an attack on you – just an announcement of my despair.

OhEssYouCowboys on September 25, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Dave Rywall on September 25, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Which is why so many Canadians come to America to get health care on their own dime rather than die waiting for the healthcare they’ve already paid for in Canada?

gwelf on September 25, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Organizations are not citizens. And obviously we disagree on right to basic healthcare.
lester on September 25, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Nothing that requires the property or labor of another is a “right”.

tommyboy on September 25, 2012 at 3:47 PM

So if I exercise my right of free association I am absolved of my rights as an individual and the group I associate with doesn’t have any rights to free speech or property?

gwelf on September 25, 2012 at 3:29 PM

You still have your rights. This is the organization trying to take away something from you because of their religious views. If they align with yours then there’s no problem to begin with. If they don’t then they shouldn’t be able to jeopardize your well-being to practice those religious views. Whether it’s contraception and Christianity, psychology and Scientology, some non-Halal medicine and Islam.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Obama’s statement is essentially saying, “The future must not belong to practicing Christians”

tommyboy on September 25, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Mohammed was a slimy lying pederast who wasn’t fit to hold Moses’s left nutsack.

TexasJew on September 25, 2012 at 3:51 PM

There is not a dimes worth of difference between Obama and Romney

Neither deserve our vote.

Steveangell on September 25, 2012 at 3:51 PM

lester on September 25, 2012 at 3:48 PM

You have the right not to associate with that organization. If you believe they don’t have a right to practice their views in their organization why do you have a right to override their views in their organization?

Still waiting for your answer on how something can be a medical necessity when the same types of women existed for centuries without the pill?

chemman on September 25, 2012 at 3:52 PM

Got diabetes? F you go figure out how to afford to pay for your own care If only there was a way to get diabetes from a car accident. Dave Rywall on September 25, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Who’s not getting diabetes treated?

It’s easy, just get a GP doc to chop off your foot for $40k.

At least, that’s what Obooba thinks goes on. Such a medical genius, he oughta be running our entire healthcare system!

Akzed on September 25, 2012 at 3:52 PM

The future must not belong to reelecting this a$$wipe.

SmallGovtGuy on September 25, 2012 at 3:53 PM

You still have your rights. This is the organization trying to take away something from you because of their religious views. If they align with yours then there’s no problem to begin with. If they don’t then they shouldn’t be able to jeopardize your well-being to practice those religious views. Whether it’s contraception and Christianity, psychology and Scientology, some non-Halal medicine and Islam.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 3:48 PM

What is it exactly they are taking away from me? If I’m demanding they buy me some product it’s me who’s trying to take something away from them. I’ve never been forced to work for someone – I freely choose to work for my employer and they freely choose to pay me for my labor. They provide health insurance because they need to in order to stay competitive. They should be under no legal obligation to do so and they certainly shouldn’t be under any legal obligation for their offered benefits to meet some government standard.

You still haven’t answered my question – why isn’t my employer responsible for providing me with a house, clothing and food?

gwelf on September 25, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Organizations are not citizens.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 3:25 PM

An ironic statement, given that organization is the keystone of the collectivist state.

The Schaef on September 25, 2012 at 3:54 PM

This is the organization trying to take away something from you because of their religious views.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Exactly what is the organization taking away from somebody, which he or she already possesses?

The Schaef on September 25, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Obama gave a good speech this time around. He defended free speech and explained why it’s needed in any democracy. Mentioning terrorism would only give satisfaction to terrorists so why go there?
There is a LOT to criticize Obama for but not today…Why isn’t Hot Air focusing more on Mitt Romney inability to connect to the average American people? Everyone knows that Obama first term has mostly been a FAILURE (even his supporters) so piling on his mistakes will not change anything. Mitt Romney has to show America that he is a better alternative and so far FAILED to do so. Obama is who he is: an ineffective charmer that most Americans find cool to hang out with. Mitt Romney comes up as an out of touch unlikeable guy that people don’t want to see on TV…and that’s the REAL problem.

Mitt Romney has to close to deal and no amount of Obama bashing will do it for him. The first debate will be his last opportunity to do so (it will be the most watched and if he does not do anything to change his image, he is DONE)

jules on September 25, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Mohammed was a slimy lying pederast who wasn’t fit to hold Moses’s left nutsack.

TexasJew on September 25, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Muhammad is pure fiction.

He never ever existed.

He was invented by a Warlord to take control of the other four Warlords and consolidate power.

Mecca does not support olives which Muhammad supposedly grew there. There are no coins with his name on them until after this Warlord invented him 60 years after his supposed death. There are no historical accounts of him even though there are historical accounts of the towns he supposedly took over.

Islam is purely Satanic in nature. Allah is Satan.

Steveangell on September 25, 2012 at 3:56 PM

So you feel like a little sharia law do you?

Vote for this idiot and you just might get your wish…
Do you have any daughters? just wondering…

Have the wife do a little reading up on sharia law.. I’m sure she will set you straight..

Only a flaming FOOL would vote for Obama..

The guy is a “F”ing idiot.

RockyJ. on September 25, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Which is why so many Canadians come to America to get health care on their own dime rather than die waiting for the healthcare they’ve already paid for in Canada?

gwelf on September 25, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Typical Canadian delays: 6 months for a colonoscopy, 2 to 4 months for a diagnostic biopsy. People do get treated when the situation is immediately life threatening but the delay in diagnostic procedures leaves many to only get treatment when it’s too late. Obamacare will be far worse given that the bureaucrats will have 10 times as many sheeple to ‘serve.’ The real death panels are the waiting lists.

Annar on September 25, 2012 at 3:58 PM

lester and Rywall are now in the same league.

That’s for shame, Rywall. You’re supposed to be the thinker.

Schadenfreude on September 25, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Evidently, ol’ Dave’s run out of thoughts…and reverted to citing talking points memos.

Solaratov on September 25, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Steveangell on September 25, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Akzed on September 25, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Statement: “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”

Corollary: “The future must belong to those who respect Islam.”

CPT. Charles on September 25, 2012 at 3:38 PM

P = “The future must not belong to”
Q = “those who slander the prophet of Islam”

Obama claims P ==> Q

“The future must not belong to” ==> “those who slander the prophet of Islam”

Now consider the Contrapositive.

!Q ==> !P

!(“those who slander the prophet of Islam” ) ==> !(“The future must not belong to”)

In other words,

“Those who do not slander the prophet of Islam” ==> “The future must belong to”

Or, if “do not slander” is considered as “respect”, then

“Those who respect the prophet of Islam” ==> “The future must belong to”

It’s really not that much of a stretch to say that Obama endorses the Cordoba Initiative, which is really a pretense to re-establishing the Cordoba Caliphate.

And oh, by the way, Michelle Obama’s trip to Spain wasn’t “tone deaf”, it was pitch perfect … to the Cordoba Initiative.

ITguy on September 25, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Mitt Romney has to show America that he is a better alternative and so far FAILED to do so. Obama is who he is: an ineffective charmer that most Americans find cool to hang out with. Mitt Romney comes up as an out of touch unlikeable guy that people don’t want to see on TV…and that’s the REAL problem.

Mitt Romney has to close to deal and no amount of Obama bashing will do it for him. The first debate will be his last opportunity to do so (it will be the most watched and if he does not do anything to change his image, he is DONE)

jules on September 25, 2012 at 3:56 PM

You are 100% correct.

The problem Mitt has is he thinks Obama is doing a great job.

Romney is Obama Lite.

Steveangell on September 25, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Catholicism was around 600 years before the so-called and clearly evil muslim “prophet” mohammed and it will be around 6 million years after the last murdering mohammedian barbarian is dead.

mohammed was a murderer and a pedophile. If he even existed at all.

wildcat72 on September 25, 2012 at 4:00 PM

“What we will not let go, they cannot take from us.” Julius Caesar.

thatsafactjack on September 25, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Thanks Jackie. :) Carries more weight. Puh. For now.

Axe on September 25, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Dave Rywall on September 25, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Which is why so many Canadians come to America to get health care on their own dime rather than die waiting for the healthcare they’ve already paid for in Canada?

gwelf on September 25, 2012 at 3:47 PM
——-

System’s not perfect but it’s a bazillion times better than your sad joke of a system.

Up here, people’s lives aren’t financially destroyed when they get sick.

Dave Rywall on September 25, 2012 at 4:02 PM

ITguy on September 25, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Get all logical on us, why don’t you…?

Akzed on September 25, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Madison, duly noted about Harper. I don’t really have anything against Canadians, except for when they start trying to impose socialist views on America…like Obama does.

BruthaMan on September 25, 2012 at 2:56 PM

You think Obama is Canadian!?! Birther!!!

cptacek on September 25, 2012 at 4:03 PM

Up here, people’s lives aren’t financially destroyed when they get sick. Dave Rywall on September 25, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Yeah but their cancer spreads while awaiting a biopsy for months.

So… trade off.

Akzed on September 25, 2012 at 4:03 PM

Is he kissing up to the Muslims for a leadership position when Americans give him the boot in Nov?

Sparky5253 on September 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Fact Obama’s preacher of twenty years got his divinity degree from an Islamic College. His Preacher was more Muslim than Christian. He was just wink wink Christian. He was just a way for people to be Muslim but claim to be Christian to further the Muslim cause more effectively.

Steveangell on September 25, 2012 at 2:59 PM

I did not know this. Is this true? Where did he get it from?

cptacek on September 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Obama hopes this will enrage some from our side to make stupid remarks, so he can play them over and over for the next 42 days.

Squirrel factory.

faraway on September 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM

This speech makes me sick. This president makes me sick. We are living in the gathering storm, condemned to repeat history. We all know how it will end — with death, destruction, and despair. This is a day to mourn. God help us.

Rational Thought on September 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Someone please tell me he’s not a Muslim again /

Conservative4ev on September 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Nothing that requires the property or labor of another is a “right”.

tommyboy on September 25, 2012 at 3:47 PM

That’s the problem with absolutes. I live on an island in the middle of the lake. You buy the lake from previous owner and declare that trespassers will be shot, no exception.

My right to life is now threatened by your right to your property. The former, in any civil society tramples the latter.

Not being able to shout fire in a crowded public place technically takes away my right but it’s accepted in our civil society.

If we start dealing in absolutes our entire civilization will fall apart.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Folks let us lobby for banning of “gumpyandpockey”, “Dave Rywall”, and “lester”… These three trolls bring nothing to the discussion… They are here to disrupt, demoralize, and defend communist Obama… How can we start this process of banning these fools…

mnjg on September 25, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Up here, people’s lives aren’t financially destroyed when they get sick.

Dave Rywall on September 25, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Better die waiting you say?

the_nile on September 25, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Is he kissing up to the Muslims for a leadership position when Americans give him the boot in Nov?

Sparky5253 on September 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM

President of UN ?

Jabberwock on September 25, 2012 at 4:06 PM

System’s not perfect but it’s a bazillion times better than your sad joke of a system.

Up here, people’s lives aren’t financially destroyed when they get sick.

Dave Rywall on September 25, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Yeah – it’s just your provincial finances that are destroyed.
It’s projected that by 2030 80% of some Candaian provincial budgets will be gobbled up by health care. Good luck with that.

gwelf on September 25, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Akzed on September 25, 2012 at 3:59 PM

There are also films on You Tube about this.

Other links to video on this.

Steveangell on September 25, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Fact Obama’s preacher of twenty years got his divinity degree from an Islamic College. His Preacher was more Muslim than Christian. He was just wink wink Christian. He was just a way for people to be Muslim but claim to be Christian to further the Muslim cause more effectively.

Steveangell on September 25, 2012 at 2:59 PM

I did not know this. Is this true? Where did he get it from?

cptacek on September 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Don’t ask questions. He said “Fact” already.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 4:07 PM

WWTRHS
What Would Teddy Roosevelt Have Said

“A mob of Muslim fanatics recently murdered an American ambassador and several others, and riotous protests continue outside many of our legations throughout the Middle East. Let me take this opportunity to state that I will not stand idly by while our citizens are attacked and butchered by violent scum. We live in a free country, where any religion may be practiced in security, and also where any religion may be criticized or even mocked. Those ignorant skunks who think that an insult offered by some private citizen constitutes justification for murder and mayhem will be dealt with without delay and without mercy, and their lands will be laid waste. To this end, I have ordered the U.S. Navy and Marines to occupy the Benghazi region and place it under martial law until restitution is obtained. As God Almighty is my witness, I shall not rest until every one of the savages responsible for this assassination is brought to justice and hanged on the spot of his filty deeds. Any further outrages will be met with an immediate and overwhelming wave of destruction which will continue until the perpetrators are eliminated or we exhaust our ammunition–whichever comes first.”

spiritof61 on September 25, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Axe on September 25, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Always there to lend a hand… or a quote…for you, Axefellow! :)

thatsafactjack on September 25, 2012 at 4:08 PM

System’s not perfect but it’s a bazillion times better than your sad joke of a system.

Up here, people’s lives aren’t financially destroyed when they get sick.

Dave Rywall on September 25, 2012 at 4:02 PM

You can comment like a citizen of a real country when you stop hiding behind the tax-payer funded military of another country.

Oh and my wife has worked in oncology at a “migrant-worker” clinic which have treated kids with cancer throughout their entire young lives. How is this possible in our evil corporate insurance system?

Certainly you are not manufacturing myths to support your own greed, like Obama did about his mother?

ClassicCon on September 25, 2012 at 4:09 PM

There is not a dimes worth of difference between Obama and Romney

Neither deserve our vote.
Steveangell on September 25, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Thank you for your contribution to the discussion.

I was just thinking to myself “I wonder what Steve Angell thinks about Mitt Romney.”

Now if only floating rock could chime in as well – I’d love to hear his nuanced opinions on the matter.

RINO in Name Only on September 25, 2012 at 4:09 PM

If we start dealing in absolutes our entire civilization will fall apart.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Your stance – that as an employee you can make legal demands on your employer about what he has to give you is an extreme. You are taking away his/her rights as a condition of “free” association.

My stance – that you are legally responsible for providing for yourself is not extreme.

You still haven’t explained why my employer doesn’t have to provide me with a home and food.

gwelf on September 25, 2012 at 4:10 PM

That’s the problem with absolutes. I live on an island in the middle of the lake. You buy the lake from previous owner and declare that trespassers will be shot, no exception.

My right to life is now threatened by your right to your property. The former, in any civil society tramples the latter.

Not being able to shout fire in a crowded public place technically takes away my right but it’s accepted in our civil society.

If we start dealing in absolutes our entire civilization will fall apart.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 4:05 PM

A simple right of way. My family has one with the state we live in and it transfers with ownership. You had to of had one with previous owner.

Jabberwock on September 25, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Steveangell on September 25, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Grazie.

Akzed on September 25, 2012 at 4:10 PM

saying what he did is the same as saying “in the future we must have blashemy laws to protect the prophet of Islam”.
the only future I can think about right now is the future of the US without Obama in the presidency.

exceller on September 25, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Exactly what is the organization taking away from somebody, which he or she already possesses?

The Schaef on September 25, 2012 at 3:55 PM

He or she is working for them and part of the agreement was the organization pays for healthcare.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Sounds like something one of those crazy imams would say. It has that ring to it.

Buddahpundit on September 25, 2012 at 4:12 PM

The more that Howdy Doody Obama talks, the more he hurts this country. Any person who thinks this moron deserves another 4 years should be required to pee into a cup.

RZuendt on September 25, 2012 at 4:12 PM

That’s the problem with absolutes. I live on an island in the middle of the lake. You buy the lake from previous owner and declare that trespassers will be shot, no exception.

My right to life is now threatened by your right to your property. The former, in any civil society tramples the latter.

Not being able to shout fire in a crowded public place technically takes away my right but it’s accepted in our civil society.

If we start dealing in absolutes our entire civilization will fall apart.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Are you absolutely sure, or just relatively sure? One thing’s for sure, you know nothing about real estate law.

Here’s an alternate scenario: I buy the lake, then turn my dogs lose on the island.

Akzed on September 25, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Heh

Schadenfreude on September 25, 2012 at 4:12 PM

President of UN ?

Jabberwock on September 25, 2012 at 4:06 PM

This. No one talks about this. I don’t think the man’s finished.

Axe on September 25, 2012 at 4:13 PM

You still have your rights. This is the organization trying to take away something from you because of their religious views. If they align with yours then there’s no problem to begin with. If they don’t then they shouldn’t be able to jeopardize your well-being to practice those religious views. Whether it’s contraception and Christianity, psychology and Scientology, some non-Halal medicine and Islam.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 3:48 PM

Which is, of course, why you can choose to go work for someone else.

But what we have to remember is that lazy Obama parasite voters rarely have marketable or useful skills, so they literally can’t do anything else; instead, they have to sit there and force their employer to pay their leech bills.

Isn’t that true, lester? You need to force your employer to pay your abortion bills because you don’t have the skills or capability to go find another job, right?

And before you start spinning, remember, blaming the economy for your being unable to find a job is an admittance that your Barack Obama’s “stimulus” and other plans are an abject failure.

northdallasthirty on September 25, 2012 at 4:13 PM

That’s the problem with absolutes. I live on an island in the middle of the lake. You buy the lake from previous owner and declare that trespassers will be shot, no exception.

My right to life is now threatened by your right to your property. The former, in any civil society tramples the latter.

Not being able to shout fire in a crowded public place technically takes away my right but it’s accepted in our civil society.

If we start dealing in absolutes our entire civilization will fall apart.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Sorry, leech. You should have thought of that before you decided to live on an island with no access.

Only an imbecile would do such a thing. Why do imbeciles like you get to make the rules? You are so stupid that you bought a property without right of access. Why on earth does everyone else have to suffer so that imbeciles like you can survive?

northdallasthirty on September 25, 2012 at 4:15 PM

One last quote of de Tocqueville, before I sign off – it says it all – and it is a dead-on indictment of more than half of the voters – who will, once again, vote for a Communist malignancy.

America is lost. Take it up with de Tocqueville [he called it]:

“Our contemporaries are constantly wracked by two warring passions: they feel the need to be led and the desire to remain free. Unable to destroy either of these contrary instincts, they seek to satisfy both at once. They imagine a single, omnipotent, tutelary power, but one that is elected by the citizens. They combine centralization with popular sovereignty. This gives them some respite. They console themselves for being treated as wards by imagining that they have chosen their own protectors. Each individual allows himself to be clapped in chains because that the other end of the chain is held not by a man or a class but by the people themselves.”

― Alexis de Tocqueville

OhEssYouCowboys on September 25, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Fact Obama’s preacher of twenty years got his divinity degree from an Islamic College. His Preacher was more Muslim than Christian. He was just wink wink Christian. He was just a way for people to be Muslim but claim to be Christian to further the Muslim cause more effectively.

Steveangell on September 25, 2012 at 2:59 PM

I did not know this. Is this true? Where did he get it from?

cptacek on September 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Probably here originally but link to article now broken.

But found another article that also refers to this fact. It also talks about his actual teachings then.

Steveangell on September 25, 2012 at 4:18 PM

The future belongs to a free-people who have enshrined their God-given, sacred right of free-speech in their Constitution.

It does not belong to those who would use faith or any other excuse to take away or diminish that right based on some whimsical reasoning.

Nor is that right the property, political strawman of any one person. That includes the President.

Reasonable men eventually prevail in any argument. To use human weakness as an excuse for diminishing individual rights is an act of pure tyranny.

Marcus Traianus on September 25, 2012 at 4:18 PM

System’s not perfect but it’s a bazillion times better than your sad joke of a system.

Up here, people’s lives aren’t financially destroyed when they get sick.

Dave Rywall on September 25, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Yup — mainly because they die before receiving treatment.

northdallasthirty on September 25, 2012 at 4:18 PM

The future belongs to the West…And we are equal opportunity insulters.

Mohammedians can bite me!

workingclass artist on September 25, 2012 at 4:20 PM

He or she is working for them and part of the agreement was the organization pays for healthcare.

lester on September 25, 2012 at 4:11 PM

It may be. Your employer compensates you for your labor. Part of that may be employer provided or subsidized health insurance or it might not. Even if your employer does provide health insurance they are free to change it. My current employer has changed the details of my health insurance several times. If I’m unhappy with it I go somewhere else. Or I supplement it with the wage they pay me. If they’ve entered into a contract with me then they need to meet their contractual obligations. You don’t have some default government enforced or protected right to demand that your employer give you something simply by virtue of you being alive. What if your employer self insures (as many small to middle sized organizations do) and they don’t want to pay for abortions. You don’t have the right make them violate their religious convictions to appease your wishes.

gwelf on September 25, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Better die waiting you say?

the_nile on September 25, 2012 at 4:05 PM
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Yeah but their cancer spreads while awaiting a biopsy for months.

So… trade off.

Akzed on September 25, 2012 at 4:03 PM
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Right.

March 22, 2012—A new analysis from the Canadian Institute for Health Information (CIHI) reveals that about 8 out of 10 Canadians receive priority-area procedures—including hip and knee replacements, cataract surgery, hip fracture repair and radiation therapy—within the medically recommended time frames.

Featuring provincial comparisons and trends in wait times, the analysis further reveals the following:

Almost all (97%) patients receive radiation therapy within the recommended time frame of four weeks;
Similar proportions of patients receive hip replacement (82%), hip fracture repair (79%) and cataract surgery (82%) within these procedures’ respective time frames; and
Knee replacements have the longest wait times, with 75% of patients receiving care within the benchmark time frame.

etc
etc
etc

Dave Rywall on September 25, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Just in case anyone forgets….
……….this is how Obama talks about Americans who disagree with him:

Obama: ‘If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun’

Obama’s turnout pitch to Latinos: Get out there and punish your “enemies”

Obama: ‘If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun’

We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us,’

“I won’t you to argue with them and get in their face”

…and this is how he talks to the muslim radicals that have killed thousands and thousands of Americans in the name of Allah:

‘THE FUTURE MUST NOT BELONG TO THOSE WHO SLANDER THE PROPHET OF ISLAM’…

…as usual…Obama saves his anger and resentment for his political opponents at home while displaying nothing but weakness and nativity to the enemies of freedom and a brutal people who want us dead….and are killing us by the thousands.

Baxter Greene on September 25, 2012 at 4:22 PM

The future must not belong to the headchoppers of Islam.

ajacksonian on September 25, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Funny, I don’t get the health care/slander the prophet connection.

scalleywag on September 25, 2012 at 4:23 PM

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