Egyptian president: We’re not allies or enemies

posted at 10:01 am on September 25, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Barack Obama blew the Egypt question in an interview with Telemundo. Would Egyptian president Mohamed Morsi blow it with CBS News? Charlie Rose interviewed Morsi while the new head of state attended the UN General Assembly and asked him to clarify. Morsi, like Obama, seemed reluctant to claim the status of ally with the US (via National Journal):

When prompted, Morsi said “we are not enemies, of course … for sure, we are friends,” but he stopped short of calling Egypt and the U.S. allies.

“The U.S. president said otherwise,” he said, laughing, referencing an interview earlier this month in which President Obama said that Egypt was not “either an ally or an enemy.”

Morsi explained that defining their relationship is a nuanced issue, saying “This is dependent on the definition of ‘ally.’ The understanding of an ally as a part of a military alliance, this is not existing right now, but if you by ‘ally’ a partnership and special diplomatic relationship and cooperation, we are that ally.”

Ahem. The US has funded Egypt’s military for decades, spending an average of two billion dollars a year since 1979 in overall aid to Egypt to prop them up while they keep the peace with Israel.  The 2010 funding for direct military support came to $1.3 billion.  Egypt gets more aid from the US than any other nation except Israel, and most of it goes to their army.  Whether it’s called a “military alliance” on paper or not, that is exactly what it is — and exactly what we had before we pushed Morsi’s predecessor under the bus.

Once again, as NBC’s Richard Engel said at the time, the inability of either leader to acknowledge that alliance calls into question our policy of demanding Hosni Mubarak’s ouster and the quick elections that only benefited the Muslim Brotherhood.  This sounds like the definition of a huge foreign-policy loss.

Addendum: Looks like Morsi was available to meet with CBS.  Maybe if Barack Obama had taken some time to meet with him, this ambiguity could have been resolved, huh?


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Maybe if Barack Obama had taken some time to meet with him, this ambiguity could have been resolved, huh?

Morsi can meet with the empty chair because Obama has to go fill one and get his leg hump on at The View.

ted c on September 25, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Rand Paul is right.

MeatHeadinCA on September 25, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Egyptian president: We’re not allies or enemies

Splunge!

viking01 on September 25, 2012 at 10:06 AM

“we are not enemies, of course … for sure, we are friends,” but he stopped short of calling Egypt and the U.S. allies.

any reason why there is an Al Qaeda flag flying over the US embassy???? friend?

ted c on September 25, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Fine, no more aid money for you.

Watch Monkey Boy change his tune so fast he would a land speed record doing so.

Bishop on September 25, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Didn’t Obooba say the same thing about Egypt recently?

Egypt’s official status of the US to this day is non-Nato Major Ally.

Akzed on September 25, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Hey, Morsi, you’ve got some nice pyramids there in your country. Be a shame if something happened to ‘em.

Bitter Clinger on September 25, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Fine, no more aid money for you.

Bishop on September 25, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Aid money flow to Egypt is different from that to other Muzzie shitholes. It is due courtesy of Camp David accords, which was a sweetener for the shaft given to Israel by Jimmy “Dhimmi” Carter. Once the money stops coming the accords are null and void, which means an immediate Sinai Peninsula war, since I doubt Egyptians would willingly part with it.

Archivarix on September 25, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Andrea Mitchell is on TV right now telling us all what a nice Westernized guy that Morsi is and how all of this is one big misunderstanding.

Effing fools.

Punchenko on September 25, 2012 at 10:16 AM

If they are not allies then stop giving them money. close our embassy-bring them home

gerrym51 on September 25, 2012 at 10:17 AM

Carter lost Iran and got American diplomats held hostage.
Dear Liar lost Egypt (which Carter won!) and got an American diplomat killed.

Ah, for the Carter years.

rbj on September 25, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Morsi can meet with the empty chair because Obama has to go fill one and get his leg hump on at The View.
ted c on September 25, 2012 at 10:04 AM

“Eye candy.”

a capella on September 25, 2012 at 10:18 AM

When prompted, Morsi said “we are not enemies, of course … for sure, we are friends,” but he stopped short of calling Egypt and the U.S. allies.

Translation:
“…we need your money to help finance our goal of destroying the west and all those that don’t follow the Prophet Mohammad.”

….in which the muslim brotherhood have found a reliable ally in Obama.

Baxter Greene on September 25, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Frenemies dont cut it.

Philly on September 25, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Cut the purse strings to Egypt already.

O/T (Birds of a feather): “I’m not an ally. I just the same lying, self-serving pile of soot that I have always been”– BJ Clinton
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/09/bill-clinton-still-deeply-dishonest-after-all-these-years.php

onlineanalyst on September 25, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Well, gee. Glad Morsi straightened that out for us. I’m sure he also knows the definition of “is.”

PatriotGal2257 on September 25, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Well, considering that WE (the United States, minus enemy-obama and his cabal) are at WAR with the death-cult of islam, then, muslim-brotherhood-controlled (thanks to obama) Egypt must be viewed as an ENEMY.

Pork-Chop on September 25, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Morsi can meet with the empty chair because Obama has to go fill one and get his leg hump on at The View.

ted c on September 25, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Even if he were filling the chair beside Morsi, Obama just be eye-candy.

de rigueur on September 25, 2012 at 10:22 AM

…we love you!…we storm the walls of your embassy!
…we burn your flag!…it’s just political foreplay…for FORWARD!

KOOLAID2 on September 25, 2012 at 10:23 AM

If Egypt didn’t have the Suez this wouldn’t even be a question.

cajun carrot on September 25, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Friends with benefits or hoe and john?

meci on September 25, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Egyptian president: We’re not allies or enemies

Meh, he got it half right.

tommyboy on September 25, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Well I’m sure we’ll all be pals once we quit letting zionists run our government…wriiiight?

workingclass artist on September 25, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Anyone watching BO’s address to the UN? They introduced him as “His Excellency“, and he clearly loved it.

Cody1991 on September 25, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Cody1991 on September 25, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Can’t do it anymore. TV on Mute. Thought Romney was most excellent at the Global Initiative..

esr1951 on September 25, 2012 at 10:29 AM

Let limit all funding over there to Israel. Seems like the best solution to me.

Cindy Munford on September 25, 2012 at 10:29 AM

Anyone watching BO’s address to the UN? They introduced him as “His Excellency“, and he clearly loved it.

Cody1991 on September 25, 2012 at 10:27 AM

ayfkm?

workingclass artist on September 25, 2012 at 10:30 AM

I’m getting an uncomfortable Yasser Arafat vibe off of this guy’s photo.

Paul-Cincy on September 25, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Jihad Is Our Path, Death for the Sake of Allah Is Our Most Lofty Aspiration, the Shari’a Is Our Constitution.”- m. morsi on the campaign trail.

mittens on September 25, 2012 at 10:31 AM

George Washington was addressed as “excellency.”

Akzed on September 25, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Can’t do it anymore. TV on Mute. Thought Romney was most excellent at the Global Initiative..

esr1951 on September 25, 2012 at 10:29 AM

Yeah, I know. Just wanted to watch enough to see if he blamed the video. He did.

What a prat. Weak, weak, weak. He’s getting into his breatha brotha routine. Lecturing, hectoring….

Cody1991 on September 25, 2012 at 10:35 AM

Let limit all funding over there to Israel. Seems like the best solution to me.

Cindy Munford on September 25, 2012 at 10:29 AM

+1

Bitter Clinger on September 25, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Whether it’s called a “military alliance” on paper or not, that is exactly what it is — and exactly what we had before we pushed Morsi’s predecessor under the bus.

No.

Dante on September 25, 2012 at 10:38 AM

Let limit all funding over there to Israel. Seems like the best solution to me.

Cindy Munford on September 25, 2012 at 10:29 AM

You sure are generous with other people’s money. Odd for an alleged conservative to be in favor of wealth redistribution, seizing Americans’ property by coercion and force to be handed over to a foreign government.

Dante on September 25, 2012 at 10:39 AM

listening to Obama…..Oivey

…says it’s time to address the problems between East and West! (Is that why he won’t hold a single meeting with any leader while they are in NYC)

CoffeeLover on September 25, 2012 at 10:40 AM

More like frenemies.

Happy Nomad on September 25, 2012 at 10:40 AM

O/T (Birds of a feather): “I’m not an ally. I just the same lying, self-serving pile of soot that I have always been”– BJ Clinton
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/09/bill-clinton-still-deeply-dishonest-after-all-these-years.php

onlineanalyst on September 25, 2012 at 10:20 AM

This is what I remember whenever I’ve heard people talk up Hillary as a presidential candidate in the past. Why would anyone want either Clinton anywhere near the White House again? Neither can be trusted. We just got a tragic preview of what her conduct might be like if she were president.

PatriotGal2257 on September 25, 2012 at 10:40 AM

I don’t think he’s concerned whether or not we send money. Look for him to put the country on starvation rations like N Korea has done. A large part of the country is already dependent on the government for subsistence. Hunger is a big motivator to obeying the food giver.

As to the Pyramids, I doubt that he cares if they are destroyed or not. Someone else doing it would save them the time and money. I’m sure they’re already on a target list.

TugboatPhil on September 25, 2012 at 10:42 AM

George Washington was addressed as “excellency.”

Akzed on September 25, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Well I looked it up on the interwebs

According to Ms. Etiquette Emily Post…

The President

Letter Address

The President

The White House

Salutation

Dear Mr. / Madam President:

Spoken Greeting

First: Mr. / Madam President

Then: Sir / Ma’am

Formal Introduction

The President of the United States (of America- when abroad)

The President

President Last Name
Former President

Letter Address

The Honorable Full Name

Address

Salutation

Dear Mr. / Mrs. / Ms. Last Name:

Spoken Greeting

First: Mr. President

Then: Mr. / Mrs. / Ms. Last Name

Formal Introduction

The Honorable Full Name, the former President of the United States

Excellency is used for former Ambassadors

Foreign Ambassador

Letter Address

His / Her Excellency Full Name

The Ambassador of ________

The Embassy of ________

Address

Salutation

Excellency: or,

Dear Mr. / Madam Ambassador:

Spoken Greeting

Excellency

Mr. / Madam Ambassador

Formal Introduction

His / Her Excellency, the Honorable Full Name, Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary of _______

The Ambassador of _______

http://www.emilypost.com/forms-of-address/titles/777-official-forms-of-address

workingclass artist on September 25, 2012 at 10:42 AM

Friends with benefits or hoe and john?

meci on September 25, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Well, we are giving them money. You do the math.

AZfederalist on September 25, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Looks like Morsi was available to meet with CBS. Maybe if Barack Obama had taken some time to meet with him, this ambiguity could have been resolved, huh?

What’s interesting to me is that Barak Hussein Obama had a dozen meetings with other heads of state last year. This year, only the gals at The View got any face time. You would think that Obama would want to have these meetings to look Presidential. Instead it’s off to pander to the moochers in places like “Oiho.” I can’t recall a President who has so abandoned the duties of his job to campaign.

Happy Nomad on September 25, 2012 at 10:45 AM

So if Obama was pleased to be introduced as his excellency then he was pleased by being demoted & retired as a foreign ambassador to the assembly.

Sheeesh!

workingclass artist on September 25, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Punchenko on September 25, 2012 at 10:16 AM

yeah-he’s a nice westernized guy who believes that Jews were responsible for 9/11 and that the Shoah never happened. ///

annoyinglittletwerp on September 25, 2012 at 10:49 AM

workingclass artist on September 25, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Did a little checking. Evidently that’s the usual term for the UN, but I must say it was jarring to hear him addressed as his excellency. Gah!

Cody1991 on September 25, 2012 at 10:49 AM

I suggest a test.

By not putting the check in the mail for a month or two – then asking Morsi if he is a friend or an ally.

Once he doesn’t put HIS retirement fund check in the mail to Switzerland, he’ll start sweating a bit.’

We are such fools. Allowing these savages to manipulate us by mere words.

dockywocky on September 25, 2012 at 10:55 AM

I can’t recall a President who has so abandoned the duties of his job to campaign.

Happy Nomad on September 25, 2012 at 10:45 AM

The president only has two Constitutional duties in regards to foreign policy:

1 – commander in chief during war
2 – receive ambassadors

frankly, i couldn’t care less if a president doesn’t meet with heads of state in one week of the year.

Dante on September 25, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Maybe if Barack Obama had taken some time to meet with him, this ambiguity could have been resolved, huh?

Morsi can meet with the empty chair because Obama has to go fill one and get his leg hump on at The View.

ted c on September 25, 2012 at 10:04 AM

CNN says Bark looked foolish…

http://weaselzippers.us/2012/09/25/normally-pro-obama-cnn-he-looked-foolish-yesterday-going-on-the-view-wh

workingclass artist on September 25, 2012 at 11:00 AM

We really need to stop funding this gorilla. We’re basically paying them protection money so that they’ll play nice with Israel.

It’s pathetic and immoral. And probably has the full support of our deranged State Department.

CorporatePiggy on September 25, 2012 at 11:01 AM

workingclass artist on September 25, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Did a little checking. Evidently that’s the usual term for the UN, but I must say it was jarring to hear him addressed as his excellency. Gah!

Cody1991 on September 25, 2012 at 10:49 AM

ok

*shrug*

workingclass artist on September 25, 2012 at 11:01 AM

Andrea Mitchell is on TV right now telling us all what a nice Westernized guy that Morsi is and how all of this is one big misunderstanding.

Effing fools.

Punchenko on September 25, 2012 at 10:16 AM

Wasn’t Morsi the guy who said they wanted to make their capital Jerusalem? I don’t want to misunderstand, but wouldn’t there have to be NO ISRAEL for that to happen?

TarheelBen on September 25, 2012 at 11:02 AM

Hey, if you want to call me your girlfriend, go ahead, but leave the 100 bucks on the night stand when you leave…

right2bright on September 25, 2012 at 11:05 AM

“FOX News contributor KT McFarland told America’s Newsroom that by not meeting with foreign leaders at the United Nations this week Barack Obama has blocked Mitt Romney from meeting with the same leaders…”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09/kt-mcfarland-obama-blocked-mitt-romney-from-meeting-with-world-l

workingclass artist on September 25, 2012 at 11:07 AM

The president only has two Constitutional duties in regards to foreign policy:

1 – commander in chief during war
2 – receive ambassadors

frankly, i couldn’t care less if a president doesn’t meet with heads of state in one week of the year.

Dante on September 25, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Given the absolute failure of Obama’s foreign policy, you’d think he’d try to do some damage control. Unless you adopt a truly moronic position like Ron Paul’s idea we should be isolationists without contact or trade abroad, the President’s foreign policy duties are really larger than what is stipulated in the Constitution.

And BTW, the President is CINC over the military, not just in time of war. And what does that have to do with foreign policy?

Happy Nomad on September 25, 2012 at 11:08 AM

Given that Morsi went to USC we should strongly consider cutting all diplomatic ties with Egypt and putting the entire country on the no fly list.

CorporatePiggy on September 25, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Egyptian president: We’re not allies or enemies

This is true. What we are to him are “Dhimmis”.

A slave is neither an ally nor a enemy, and we in the West (who they consider to be Dhimmis), need to think about that every time we seek to appease their aggression against us.

Lawrence on September 25, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Obviously he’s a moderate jihadist. Just look at the length of his beard.

/bland face of evil

rayra on September 25, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Time to dust off the policy of containment, which worked so well with the Soviet Union:

-end all aid to muslem countries
-stop selling them food, medicine, weapons, or anything else
-end all immigration from them
-”Manhatten Project” to become energy independent

Let them wallow in the filth of their dark ages death cult, without us trying to save them from themselves.

Rebar on September 25, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Splunge!

viking01 on September 25, 2012 at 10:06 AM

It’s splunge for me too!

Ward Cleaver on September 25, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Is Morsi doing The View, too?

Ward Cleaver on September 25, 2012 at 12:32 PM

“FOX News contributor KT McFarland told America’s Newsroom that by not meeting with foreign leaders at the United Nations this week Barack Obama has blocked Mitt Romney from meeting with the same leaders…”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09/kt-mcfarland-obama-blocked-mitt-romney-from-meeting-with-world-l

workingclass artist on September 25, 2012 at 11:07 AM

Here’s a fix for your broken link:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09/kt-mcfarland-obama-blocked-mitt-romney-from-meeting-with-world-leaders-at-un-video/

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on September 25, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Muslim Brotherhood.

He is our enemy. All of his Muslim Brothers are our enemies.

They have said so, many times, directly or through their charter.

They are at war with us. Failing to recognize openly avowed enemies, we are not at war with them.

The consequences are sadly predictable, and are playing out before us every day as the clueless lead us into disaster.

novaculus on September 25, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Given the absolute failure of Obama’s foreign policy, you’d think he’d try to do some damage control. Unless you adopt a truly moronic position like Ron Paul’s idea we should be isolationists without contact or trade abroad, the President’s foreign policy duties are really larger than what is stipulated in the Constitution.

And BTW, the President is CINC over the military, not just in time of war. And what does that have to do with foreign policy?

Happy Nomad on September 25, 2012 at 11:08 AM

This isn’t Obama’s foreign policy; it’s America’s foreign policy of the past 100+ years. It is the foreign policy of progressives, which began with Teddy Roosevelt. Obama is merely continuing the same foreign policy as his predecessors.

Dante on September 25, 2012 at 12:51 PM

And BTW, the President is CINC over the military, not just in time of war. And what does that have to do with foreign policy?

Happy Nomad on September 25, 2012 at 11:08 AM

And by the way, the president is commander in chief ONLY in tie of war.

Are you seriously asking what that has to do with foreign policy? Seriously?

Dante on September 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM

“We tell you what to do” — Morsi

God damn Morsi and Obama.

Schadenfreude on September 25, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Well, does that mean that we don’t have to subsidize the Egyptian economy anymore?
Sure sounds like it to me.

Another Drew on September 25, 2012 at 4:48 PM