Video: Israeli delegation walks out of Ahmadinejad’s UN speech — but the U.S. doesn’t?

posted at 6:41 pm on September 24, 2012 by Allahpundit

Via Gateway Pundit and Breitbart.com. I haven’t seen any news stories yet that explicitly say that the U.S. delegation stayed put, but there are several on the wires mentioning Israel’s walkout with no other countries mentioned so it seems safe to assume. “Walkout theater” has always seemed pointless to me but both sides do it so it’s part of the diplomatic arsenal during “UN week” in September — which is what makes this interesting. Maybe it’s nothing, but note that Americans walked out on A-jad in both 2010 and 2011, back when the U.S and Israel were far more simpatico on Iranian nukes. Was sitting through Dinnerjacket’s latest deep thoughts about the scourge of Zionism and the unsolved mystery of the Holocaust a small signal to Iranian diplomats that we’re decoupled from Israel and therefore shouldn’t be held responsible if Netanyahu orders a raid on Iran tomorrow?

Before you say “maybe!”, two caveats. One: This isn’t the Ahmadinejad speech this week. He’s due to take his turn in the roll call of world leaders addressing the General Assembly on Wednesday. Today’s address was at a special meeting devoted to, uh … the rule of law. (He flashed the peace sign too, so in case you were worried about Iran’s intentions, rest easy.) If Obama wants to make a show of turning America’s back on Ahmadinejad, he still has an opportunity on Wednesday. Two: The White House did condemn the eliminationist chum that Ahmadinejad was tossing to Middle Eastern media before his speech. Quote:

“We don’t even count them as any part of any equation for Iran. During a historical phase, they (the Israelis) represent minimal disturbances that come into the picture and are then eliminated,” he added.

In 2005, Ahmadinejad called Israel a “tumor” and echoed the words of the former Iranian Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, by saying that Israel should be wiped off the map.

In Washington, White House spokesman Tommy Vietor reaffirmed the U.S. commitment to Israel’s security.

“President Ahmadinejad’s comments are characteristically disgusting, offensive and outrageous. They underscore again why America’s commitment to the security of Israel must be unshakeable, and why the world must hold Iran accountable for its utter failure to meet its obligations,” Vietor said.

Maybe they’ve decided to dispense with walkout theater from now on and metaphorically flip the bird to America’s enemies exclusively with angry statements afterward instead? If so, it’d be a shame to change our habits now: Wednesday will be A-jad’s last address to the GA as president of Iran, so we really should send him off properly. Almost makes me wistful to think that next year it’ll be some other fanatic holding court with the press in New York and laughing at the fatwa imposed on Salman Rushdie. Then again, on the plus side, we’ll have a fresh new take on what really happened on 9/11. Can’t wait.


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OT: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-obama-romney-staff-expense-20120924,0,2707799.story

Donald Draper on September 24, 2012 at 6:43 PM

Why they let this guy have the podium is beyond me.

gophergirl on September 24, 2012 at 6:46 PM

How can Jews support this Administration, it’s embarassing.

skanter on September 24, 2012 at 6:48 PM

I haven’t seen any news stories yet that explicitly say that the U.S. delegation stayed put…

Well in the video the US clearly stayed put.

sharrukin on September 24, 2012 at 6:48 PM

Maybe they just did him like Nancy did to 0bama and hit the “mute” button.

gregbert on September 24, 2012 at 6:50 PM

What next? Michelle on the cover of vogue in a hijab? We’re clulessly playing with fire and Israel is on its own.

ldbgcoleman on September 24, 2012 at 6:50 PM

Why do they let this f–ker in the country is beyond me, shoot his plane down, call it a “horrible” accident

gsherin on September 24, 2012 at 6:50 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5VZjT0JE70

OTTO on September 24, 2012 at 6:50 PM

Maybe, just maybe, the US delegation has been trained in the Obama jaw scratch for Wednesday. That would be far better than a walkout…

unclesmrgol on September 24, 2012 at 6:51 PM

Why would the muslim-in-chief walk out on the Jew haters?

SouthernGent on September 24, 2012 at 6:51 PM

Our delegation was caught passing out checks during the speech.

Oil Can on September 24, 2012 at 6:52 PM

Conventionally Canada does something other than walk out…it does not attend when Ahmadinejad appears. So, rather than theatre, they just refuse to dignify him by showing up.

Blaise on September 24, 2012 at 6:54 PM

Why would the muslim-in-chief walk out on the Jew haters?

SouthernGent on September 24, 2012 at 6:51 PM

Thread winner…

SWalker on September 24, 2012 at 6:54 PM

Maybe they didn’t walk out because they saw this ad and had a little “accident”

BOOM

gophergirl on September 24, 2012 at 6:55 PM

But Jews will still vote for Pres Shroom. Deserve what they get.

Dingbat63 on September 24, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Our delegation was caught passing out checks during the speech.

Oil Can on September 24, 2012 at 6:52 PM

You sure it was checks and not blow jobs?

SWalker on September 24, 2012 at 6:55 PM

OT: Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-obama-romney-staff-expense-20120924,0,2707799.story

Donald Draper on September 24, 2012 at 6:43 PM

Yeah, and it shows. Cutter? She’s probably free.

Would *you* pay anything more than minimum wage for Obama’s campaign staffers??

kim roy on September 24, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Maybe they’ve decided to dispense with walkout theater from now on

or
maybe Hussein agrees with A’Jad and the mullahs ?

burrata on September 24, 2012 at 6:56 PM

Is anyone here surprised?

Naturally Curly on September 24, 2012 at 6:57 PM

“(He flashed the peace sign too, so in case you were worried about Iran’s intentions, rest easy.) “

Huh? Holding up 2 fingers is NOT a *peace* sign.
It is a VICTORY sign.

\/ = V

Can anyone explain how you get a P from holding 2 fingers up?

HOW?????

It just doesn’t work as a Peace sign. Never did and never will.

Varchild on September 24, 2012 at 6:58 PM

O/T: I think Juan and Dr. K are going to come to blows before the election.

esr1951 on September 24, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Free speech is ok when muslims bash jews, even when they call for another holocaust. NOT when anybody criticises islam…ever. Then you need to apologize to the rageboys

clnurnberg on September 24, 2012 at 6:59 PM

Hi sharrukin, SW, et al. JPeterman around anywhere?

cynccook on September 24, 2012 at 7:00 PM

Dingbat63 on September 24, 2012 at 6:55 PM

That’s president CHOOM, unless he’s doing hallucinogens too, but, hey, nothing would shock me.

clnurnberg on September 24, 2012 at 7:00 PM

Leftists heart Islamists.

darwin on September 24, 2012 at 7:01 PM

Hi sharrukin, SW, et al. JPeterman around anywhere?

cynccook on September 24, 2012 at 7:00 PM

Haven’t seen him/her…

SWalker on September 24, 2012 at 7:03 PM

BOOM

gophergirl on September 24, 2012 at 6:55 PM

BOOM SHAKALAKA…!!!

Seven Percent Solution on September 24, 2012 at 7:03 PM

It just doesn’t work as a Peace sign. Never did and never will.

Varchild on September 24, 2012 at 6:58 PM

I agree, the peace sign is owned by Mercedes Benz
:D

burrata on September 24, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Haven’t seen him/her…

SWalker on September 24, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Thanks. How’re things out in the Wild, Wild West? :0

cynccook on September 24, 2012 at 7:04 PM

Not “The Speech”????? What is that suppose to mean?

The man and his government is the enemy of all things human, even Iran. There is nothing to gain from listening to his laundry lists.

Limerick on September 24, 2012 at 7:04 PM

Primitive rantings of a degenerate monkey. One who will have a nuclear weapon very very soon. Behold this ape, and romanticise about his finger hovering gently above that red shiny button.

AlexB on September 24, 2012 at 7:07 PM

Did they bow and apologize as they listened to Nut Job’s speech?

Philly on September 24, 2012 at 7:08 PM

More despicable behavior from our corrupt government. What the hell is wrong with the Jews in this country??? Why do they keep voting for the treasonous democrats??

Sasha List on September 24, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Its tiresome to see the U.S. pouring money into the U.N., to the tune of at least $7.3 Billion/year a couple of years ago… we haven’t got the figures from the last two years… so that assorted dictators, maniacs, and extortionists, can have a stage upon which to strut, defame and threaten those with whom they disagree… usually, US.

Boot the U.N. off of American soil, and end all funding to that corrupt and worthless institution.

thatsafactjack on September 24, 2012 at 7:08 PM

anybody but obama. drive, drag , carry them to the polls. the sucka has to go.

renalin on September 24, 2012 at 7:09 PM

You know we do not let convicted felons from foreign countries enter the United States?

Yet we let this piece of crap terrorist into the country.

CorporatePiggy on September 24, 2012 at 7:10 PM

Its tiresome to see the U.S. pouring money into the U.N., to the tune of at least $7.3 Billion/year a couple of years ago… we haven’t got the figures from the last two years… so that assorted dictators, maniacs, and extortionists, can have a stage upon which to strut, defame and threaten those with whom they disagree… usually, US.
Boot the U.N. off of American soil, and end all funding to that corrupt and worthless institution.
thatsafactjack on September 24, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Second!

DiscePati on September 24, 2012 at 7:11 PM

Why would our delegation walk out on Dinnerjacket? They envy his dictatorship, after all. Plus, it was almost happy hour at the bar scene from Star Wars and they wanted one last shot at his whiskey.

TXUS on September 24, 2012 at 7:11 PM

We should never have walked in. And when the Pubs. had control of things, why the hell didn’t they kick the UN out of the USA? Pubs. are nothing more than dem. lite.

they lie on September 24, 2012 at 7:13 PM

I’m sorry- two words- stone age.

BettyRuth on September 24, 2012 at 7:13 PM

Perhaps Mr. Obama doesn’t think we’re showing enough weakness in the middle east.

MessesWithTexas on September 24, 2012 at 7:13 PM

You know we do not let convicted felons from foreign countries enter the United States?

Yet we let this piece of crap terrorist into the country.

CorporatePiggy on September 24, 2012 at 7:10 PM

We used to not let them into the White House too ,
yet we have
Barack Hussein Soerbarakh Sotero Barry Dunham Obama Odinga XI
in there now

burrata on September 24, 2012 at 7:14 PM

Peace sign? That’s probably “V” for Victory.

besser tot als rot on September 24, 2012 at 7:14 PM

O/T What’s with Shrillary speaking like we’re all mentally challenged?? Projection much?

Sasha List on September 24, 2012 at 7:14 PM

Israel walked out, just noise, right?

clnurnberg on September 24, 2012 at 7:15 PM

SWalker on September 24, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Thanks. How’re things out in the Wild, Wild West? :0

cynccook on September 24, 2012 at 7:04 PM

Nice and quiet… ;)

SWalker on September 24, 2012 at 7:16 PM

Of course not. The new America under Obama in anti-Colonialism. What were once our allies, are now our enemies. Our foes are our friends. It is all according to plan. Obama does not love the poor as much as he hates the rich. He is for redistribution of wealth and he is doing a fine job of it. Vote him in for another four years and lose your country.

Time to move to New Zealand.

the new aesthetic on September 24, 2012 at 7:17 PM

When I read about his ‘the peace sign’ my first thought was that it was probably meant the gesture of rudeness and defiance, the two fingered V, favored by the Brits…. after all… he gets everything else backwards.

thatsafactjack on September 24, 2012 at 7:17 PM

In a TXUS presidency, once Dinnerjacket and all the other despots safely arrived in their hotels the night before the big day, every single one would be photographed, with their hookers, then captured and transported, at our expense, to Club Gitmo for further questioning. And, yes, waterboarded … just for funzies.

TXUS on September 24, 2012 at 7:18 PM

For the first time ever, I am ashamed of our Diplomatic representatives.

Shameful.

portlandon on September 24, 2012 at 7:19 PM

burrata on September 24, 2012 at 7:14 PM

Good point…

And I bet the US delegation sat there under orders from Susan Rice too.

“Play nice with Brother Dinnerjacket, people – he is a personal friend of the DogEater and is going to solve the Jewish Problem once and for all”.

CorporatePiggy on September 24, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Its Yom Kippur on Wednesday and Terrorist responsible for Iranian US Embassy deaths will have a chance to speak in front of USA. Interesting…

riddick on September 24, 2012 at 7:21 PM

Well, Obama has his beliefs and actions and it is a perfectly definite set, there is no vagueness about it. He commands that the Jew and Christian bow to the Muslim at every turn they do him hurt or threaten him and his children with death. Word it as softly as you please, the spirit of Obama is the spirit of the evil shadowed specter of the Beast of Austria insidiously billowing in and building and building to ever more horrific heights. The moment there is a question about a boundary line or a building or some Muslim somewhere complaining about any matter, see Obama rise, and see him spit at the Jew and the Christian from the corner of his twisted mouth. The spirit of Obama being in its nature narcissistic and selfish — it is in the man’s line, it comes natural to him — he can fully live up to all of the teachings of Jeremiah Wright and even of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad; for the spirit of Judaism and of Christianity are entirely impossible to him.

VorDaj on September 24, 2012 at 7:22 PM

O/T What’s with Shrillary speaking like we’re all mentally challenged?? Projection much?

Sasha List on September 24, 2012 at 7:14 PM

I’ve been wondering the same=I think the screaming Hillary tape ( DONT LET THEM CALL YOU UNPATRIOTIC ..yada yada yada) was used against her in the past and she doesn’t want to give anyone red meat. Personally, the screaming Hillary was better than mentally challenged Hillary. Does she still plan to run again? no doubt

congma on September 24, 2012 at 7:22 PM

For the first time ever, I am ashamed of our Diplomatic representatives.

Shameful.

portlandon on September 24, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Oh, come on, now. Hillary you would be ashamed of? Same Hilary who was all in for Palestinians and so against Israel right before her move to NY and bid for Senate seat when she all of a sudden became friend of Israel? Or same Hillary whose most trusted assistant is a known Muslim Sisterhood member and attorney?

That Hillary? Why would you be ashamed of her…

riddick on September 24, 2012 at 7:24 PM

You know we do not let convicted felons from foreign countries enter the United States?

CorporatePiggy on September 24, 2012 at 7:10 PM

But if one of those convicted felons were to become a head of state? State dinner baby!

AZfederalist on September 24, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Why is the united states so committed to Israel?

Romney’s plan for Israel was to “keep kicking the can down the street” so it’s obvious neither party has a plan on how to handle them but why is it such a big deal I don’t really understand it. What makes them more important than the other hundreds of countries in the world?

Politricks on September 24, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Its Yom Kippur on Wednesday and Terrorist responsible for Iranian US Embassy deaths will have a chance to speak in front of USA. Interesting…

riddick on September 24, 2012 at 7:21 PM

And, don’t you know that’s why the U f**king N scheduled their entire agenda this week and that day in particular for his speech. There is no end to the anti-Semitism of this corrupt group, the UN that is, and it’s only worse than ever because they no Captain Bump in the Road is one of them.

TXUS on September 24, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Dingbat63 on September 24, 2012 at 6:55 PM

So how are we going to separate the good Jews from the bad Jews that vote for Obama?

DDay on September 24, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Haven’t seen him/her…

SWalker on September 24, 2012 at 7:03 PM

Peterman posted either Fri-Sat, for sure.

riddick on September 24, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Personally, the screaming Hillary was better than mentally challenged Hillary. Does she still plan to run again? no doubt

congma on September 24, 2012 at 7:22 PM

Actually, she sounds more like heavily medicated Hillary to me.

/No, I’m not being sarcastic. The monotone and slow speech pattern really do sound like someone heavily medicated.

AZfederalist on September 24, 2012 at 7:29 PM

When I read about his ‘the peace sign’ my first thought was that it was probably meant the gesture of rudeness and defiance, the two fingered V, favored by the Brits…. after all… he gets everything else backwards.

thatsafactjack on September 24, 2012 at 7:17 PM

Bare in mind that every region and culture have their own hand gestures, and they do not all have the same meaning.

Although “the finger” has been called “the universal sign of disrespect”,[2] it is not truly universal. For example, in Japanese Sign Language, when the palm is facing out, it is recognized as the letter Se. Many other gestures are used in addition to, or in lieu of, the finger in various parts of the world to express the same sentiment. In some parts of the world, “the finger” does not have any meaning at all.

In the UK and Ireland, the V sign (the middle and index finger, when given with back of the hand towards the recipient) serves a similar purpose.

Keep in mind that Iran has a history of training and arming the Irish Republican Army…

SWalker on September 24, 2012 at 7:29 PM

So how are we going to separate the good Jews from the bad Jews that vote for Obama?

DDay on September 24, 2012 at 7:26 PM

A man can be Jew or Christian, or he can be an Obama supporter, but he can’t legally be Jew or Christian, and be an Obama supporter … except in the usual way: one of the two with the mouth, the other with the heart.

VorDaj on September 24, 2012 at 7:29 PM

More despicable behavior from our corrupt government. What the hell is wrong with the Jews in this country??? Why do they keep voting for the treasonous democrats??

Sasha List on September 24, 2012 at 7:08 PM

As I’ve said before here, pre-WWII, the Jewish population was divided roughly into thirds: strongly assimilated, young populations in Western Europe and America who were largely communists and labor union supporters, a religious population in Eastern Europe, and Russian Jewry, where religion was under attack. The religious population was almost entirely decimated during the War.

Thus, Jews in this country are by-and-large descended from the young, idealistic communist and socialist teenagers of yesteryear who came to America to escape the conservatism of European Society. The Democratic Party has been their home for generations. Religious communities are generally, and predictably, Republican-leaning.

ChicagoJewishGuy on September 24, 2012 at 7:30 PM

So how are we going to separate the good Jews from the bad Jews that vote for Obama?

DDay on September 24, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Brooklyn Hassids and USSR Jewish refugees: GOP

Upper East and West Side (NY), Chicago, Florida, West Coast: Liberals

Problem with Florida is that a good number of NY Jews either have homes in FL or relatives living there, so they vote twice, once with NY address and then in FL.

riddick on September 24, 2012 at 7:30 PM

Also from the nutjob:

“Iran has been around for the last seven, 10 thousand years. They (the Israelis) have been occupying those territories for the last 60 to 70 years, with the support and force of the Westerners. They have no roots there in history,” he said, referring to the founding of the modern state of Israel in 1948.

So, if there’s no real history books available in Iran, does this mean there’s no history?

Rovin on September 24, 2012 at 7:31 PM

They weren’t born to walk on water
They weren’t born to sack and slaughter
But on their soul, they weren’t born
To stoop and knuckle under
They can again learn to steal some thunder
They can again learn to work some wonder
And when the gauntlet’s down,
It’s time to rise and climb the sky
And soon the moon will smoulder
And the winds will drive
Yes, Israel grows older but it’s soul remains alive
All those tremulous stars still glitter
They will survive
Let their hearts grow colder and as bitter as a falcon in the dive

There was a dream, a dying ember
There was a dream, they may not yet remember
But they will resurrect that dream
Though rivers stream and hills grow steeper
For in the Middle East where life gets cheaper
Oh, here in this Hell the blood runs deeper
And when the final duel is near
They will lift their spear and fly
Piercing into the sky and higher
And the strong will thrive
Yes, the weak will cower while the fittest will survive
If they wait for the darkest hour
Till they spring alive
Then with claws of molten fire, they will devour like a falcon in the dive!

PercyB on September 24, 2012 at 7:33 PM

So, if there’s no real history books available in Iran, does this mean there’s no history?

Rovin on September 24, 2012 at 7:31 PM

They obviously have no notion of Old Testament, either. Abraham lived in Ur, one of Sumer cities.

riddick on September 24, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Brooklyn Hassids and USSR Jewish refugees: GOP

Upper East and West Side (NY), Chicago, Florida, West Coast: Liberals

Problem with Florida is that a good number of NY Jews either have homes in FL or relatives living there, so they vote twice, once with NY address and then in FL.

riddick on September 24, 2012 at 7:30 PM

Waddabout me?!?

ChicagoJewishGuy on September 24, 2012 at 7:35 PM

riddick on September 24, 2012 at 7:30 PM

What about Texas and California?

VorDaj on September 24, 2012 at 7:29 PM

Jewish not Jew.

DDay on September 24, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Why is the united states so committed to Israel?

Politricks on September 24, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Because they are real allies.

Pakistani railway minister: I’ll pay $100,000 to anyone who kills the Mohammed filmmaker

sharrukin on September 24, 2012 at 7:35 PM

ChicagoJewishGuy on September 24, 2012 at 7:30 PM

Thanks for that clear and succinct explanation. That makes a lot of sense.

So those descended from the liberals are essentially historical ethnic Jews vs. practicing and are more beholden to the god of the state than the God of the Jews? It sounds very much like Algore in 2000 during the debates when rather than saying, “I believe …” or “My faith teaches …” used the words, “My faith tradition says …”

AZfederalist on September 24, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Would you expect Barry to disrespect his soul brother?

bayview on September 24, 2012 at 7:36 PM

So those descended from the liberals are essentially historical ethnic Jews vs. practicing and are more beholden to the god of the state than the God of the Jews?

AZfederalist on September 24, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Everybody needs a something to believe in. Some find faith in G-d, some in man. Simple as that.

ChicagoJewishGuy on September 24, 2012 at 7:37 PM

So, if there’s no real history books available in Iran, does this mean there’s no history?

Rovin on September 24, 2012 at 7:31 PM

To Islam, history is whatever is convenient to claim it was when they need to prove something. Adam was a Muslim, Abraham was a Muslim, Jesus was a Muslim, never mind the fact that Islam wasn’t invented until 640 AD or so.

SWalker on September 24, 2012 at 7:37 PM

Immadaboutjihad is just doing his warm-up act for the arrival of the 12th imam. “Ding, dong, dell; imam’s in the well.”

onlineanalyst on September 24, 2012 at 7:38 PM

Everybody needs a something to believe in. Some find faith in G-d, some in man. Simple as that.

ChicagoJewishGuy on September 24, 2012 at 7:37 PM

Well put.

AZfederalist on September 24, 2012 at 7:39 PM

So how are we going to separate the good Jews from the bad Jews that vote for Obama?

DDay on September 24, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Do you separathe the good Irish form the bad that way. or the good Italians from the bad. or the good Baptists from the bad? Or do you save this for jews?

And do jews deserve destruction because they vote for this nonsense? No more than blacks or hispanics do.

clnurnberg on September 24, 2012 at 7:40 PM

As I’ve said before here, pre-WWII, the Jewish population was divided roughly into thirds: strongly assimilated, young populations in Western Europe and America who were largely communists and labor union supporters, a religious population in Eastern Europe, and Russian Jewry, where religion was under attack. The religious population was almost entirely decimated during the War.

Thus, Jews in this country are by-and-large descended from the young, idealistic communist and socialist teenagers of yesteryear who came to America to escape the conservatism of European Society. The Democratic Party has been their home for generations. Religious communities are generally, and predictably, Republican-leaning.

ChicagoJewishGuy on September 24, 2012 at 7:30 PM

Never heard this before, but it does make sense. Plus, I guess, the Western Europe and American Jews didn’t need an Israel as did the religious Jews, hence, no emotional tie to it. Would I be reading that correctly?

TXUS on September 24, 2012 at 7:41 PM

DDay on September 24, 2012 at 7:26 PM

Do you separathe the good Irish form the bad that way. or the good Italians from the bad. or the good Baptists from the bad? Or do you save this for jews?

And do jews deserve destruction because they vote for this nonsense? No more than blacks or hispanics do.

clnurnberg on September 24, 2012 at 7:40 PM

Bravo, good point…

SWalker on September 24, 2012 at 7:41 PM

So how are we going to separate the good Jews from the bad Jews that vote for Obama? DDay on September 24, 2012 at 7:26 PM

First of all I did not state any separation idea. I simply lamented, ruefully, that Jews would continue to support Dims. My position is then, they reap what they sow.

Dingbat63 on September 24, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Enough said..Obie must go!!..:)

Dire Straits on September 24, 2012 at 7:42 PM

And BTW, the same for fishermen that are being driven out of business by Dim policies (yet they vote Dim); coal miners that are being driven out of business by Dim policies (yet they vote Dim) and so on.

Dingbat63 on September 24, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Waddabout me?!?

ChicagoJewishGuy on September 24, 2012 at 7:35 PM

Obviously there are exceptions. Very few, though, but enough to make up that ~20% number of us who vote against communists. And as loud voices on conservative side, I can list a good number of well known names.

In general, and as you explained above and I did in other threads on HA, it is the pre WWI/WWII era Jews that brought communism with them to USA upon implementing it in Russia in 1917 and embracing Marx and Engels as their idols. They started the ball rolling back in 1905 (first wave of Jews escaping Russian pogroms sanctioned by Tsar), the rest stayed and poured money and organization into 1917 (Lenin simply usurped all that and history was re-written, but ask any Russian and they still know and still hate us for it). Stalin “paid” them back in spades, all those who decided to stay and not leave right after (again, to USA). Hundreds of thousands were exterminated by “people’s courts justice” and hundreds of thousands more lost their lives in GULAG.

For the most part, Hassids and post WWII Jews out of USSR, who more than any other Jewish groups had real contact with progressive liberalism and know every detail of it, vote GOP. We’ve seen what communist/progressive liberalism does to humans.

riddick on September 24, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Would I be reading that correctly?

TXUS on September 24, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Not really. Plenty of Hassids do not like Israel and openly speak out against it. Go figure, but I am sure you can google it. For the most part, they do support Israel, though, for different reasons.

Hassids in Israel are given welfare privileges and do not have to serve in the army. That is going to change judging by the latest developments.

riddick on September 24, 2012 at 7:48 PM

To Islam, history is whatever is convenient to claim it was when they need to prove something. Adam was a Muslim, Abraham was a Muslim, Jesus was a Muslim, never mind the fact that Islam wasn’t invented until 640 AD or so.

SWalker on September 24, 2012 at 7:37 PM

And Ishmael was so conveniently declared an Arab when Abraham and his wives were nothing but Jews.

riddick on September 24, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Never heard this before, but it does make sense. Plus, I guess, the Western Europe and American Jews didn’t need an Israel as did the religious Jews, hence, no emotional tie to it. Would I be reading that correctly?

TXUS on September 24, 2012 at 7:41 PM

On the contrary: early Zionism was strongly Socialist (“Mutualism” was Hertzel’s philosophy). However, once the Arabs resisted violently and a strong, pro-Jewish policy became necessary (Jabotinsky vs. Weizmann, for the historians amongst us) the Zionist lefties blew a fuse and became the insane, rabid, pro-Arab Israeli left we enjoy today, and many leftist American Jews became lukewarm in their support.

ChicagoJewishGuy on September 24, 2012 at 7:50 PM

First of all I did not state any separation idea. I simply lamented, ruefully, that Jews would continue to support Dims. My position is then, they reap what they sow.

Dingbat63 on September 24, 2012 at 7:42 PM

No offense taken. As a Jew myself I am even more appalled with how Jews support those who hate them so much (Dems). But then again, a good number of Hussein’s cabinet is Jewish, they are more than worthless to me.

riddick on September 24, 2012 at 7:52 PM

With all this talk of Iran (big fans of the Protocols, they are) and Israel, I can’t resist posting this.

ChicagoJewishGuy on September 24, 2012 at 7:56 PM

Israeli delegation walks out of Ahmadinejad’s UN speech — but the U.S. doesn’t?

…we’ve changed sides!

KOOLAID2 on September 24, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Israel, this is where you stand with Obama.

Schadenfreude on September 24, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Jews will vote for Obama, and the destruction of Israel.

Schadenfreude on September 24, 2012 at 8:09 PM

I think not walking out is the right call. Walking out means he’s gotten a reaction, which is exactly why he says the ridiculous things he spouts. When he sees delegates leave, he feels like it is a victory for him. Best is to just roll your eyes and treat him like that retarded second cousin that shows up for family reunions: act like he doesn’t exist.

AngusMc on September 24, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Dinnerjacket – AKA Street Thug – talking about ‘the rule of law’?

LMAOROTF!

GarandFan on September 24, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Well as a Jew myself, I do take offense to those who criticize other Jews simply based on their political leanings. Based on this rationale as expressed earlier, you must be a bad person, if you vote Democratic and not Republican. I personally am a very conservative Jew, but I also have family members that are not. And I do not think of them as bad people, only uninformed.

DDay on September 24, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Quite a few Jews were happy with and supported Hitler in the early 30s.

Jews will vote for Obama and when there are mushroom clouds over Israel ask “Does Obama know of this?”

jukin3 on September 24, 2012 at 8:15 PM

And I do not think of them as bad people, only uninformed.

DDay on September 24, 2012 at 8:13 PM

The end result is usually the same.

VorDaj on September 24, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Our ambassadors don’t walk out. They’re dragged out.

de rigueur on September 24, 2012 at 8:24 PM

riddick on September 24, 2012 at 7:52 PM

Thank you sir/madame. We’re on the same side.

Dingbat63 on September 24, 2012 at 8:28 PM

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